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gunDriller
2nd January 2011, 10:17 AM
I am thinking about buying one of these

http://www.electricitybook.com/solar-water-purification/oil-press.jpg

and then making a bigger version that is run by a diesel engine.


Do any G-S.us'ers have one of these already ? I think the oil press in the picture is made by the Dutch company Piteba.

I figure they have to be taken apart after use to clean them ... seems logical.

Otherwise they will begin to smell like my unwashed sneakers.

I would love to learn more about the lead screw ... or even get a picture of it. That's the part that the hand-crank is attached to, that presses the seeds and squishes out the oil and then squirts out the mash from another orifice.


Incidentally, this is a manual version of the big industrial agricultural presses they use to make bio-diesel like to run one of these on -

http://images.craigslist.org/3nf3m43p65T05W55X5acmd237e60bc6891b14.jpg

/\ Diesel Mercedes.

Although usually when people have the hand-crank press it is in the kitchen as a cooking accessory, to press one's own oil. Not so you can sit there and turn the crank for 20 hours to make 1 gallon of fuel for the biodiesel car.

Shami-Amourae
2nd January 2011, 10:37 AM
We did a thread on it already:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/preparedness/piteba-oil-extractor/

...Dunno if anyone has one of those though. Methinks others are curious at buying it too.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
2nd January 2011, 11:10 AM
Don't miss this post, coconut press:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/get-your-coconut-oil-here/msg130725/#msg130725

crazychicken
2nd January 2011, 12:46 PM
Looks like something everyone should have.

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Dogman
2nd January 2011, 01:13 PM
I am thinking about buying one of these

http://www.electricitybook.com/solar-water-purification/oil-press.jpg

and then making a bigger version that is run by a diesel engine.


Do any G-S.us'ers have one of these already ? I think the oil press in the picture is made by the Dutch company Piteba.

I figure they have to be taken apart after use to clean them ... seems logical.

Otherwise they will begin to smell like my unwashed sneakers.

I would love to learn more about the lead screw ... or even get a picture of it. That's the part that the hand-crank is attached to, that presses the seeds and squishes out the oil and then squirts out the mash from another orifice.


Incidentally, this is a manual version of the big industrial agricultural presses they use to make bio-diesel like to run one of these on -

http://images.craigslist.org/3nf3m43p65T05W55X5acmd237e60bc6891b14.jpg

/\ Diesel Mercedes.

Although usually when people have the hand-crank press it is in the kitchen as a cooking accessory, to press one's own oil. Not so you can sit there and turn the crank for 20 hours to make 1 gallon of fuel for the biodiesel car.


Looks good!

Except!

Need a link maybe I am missing something!

Look at the pict

Where does the solids go? out of that tiny hole shown?

Using a auger is good to grind but to compress? Edit : yes augers do and can compress but!

Also for the ones that know what is shown in the pic is common round, flat bar and
pipe, Must use a special screw!

This is almost too good to be true! And it maybe , all that is shown is plumbing fittings and flat and round bar.

Need more detail.
The waste of the solids will not pass out of that dam tiny hole shown!

A proper press is heavy plates or wheels, with zero clearance , so things olives
or nuts, grains or what ever , will be crushed so finely that all liquid =oil and water is expelled and has a way to be collected.

I call this one a scam, unless I can see more detail, what is given in the pic , no way in hell it can work!

StackerKen
2nd January 2011, 01:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6gUD-6ZvkE&feature=player_embedded#!

StackerKen
2nd January 2011, 01:26 PM
motorized ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJT-yAlggsI&NR=1

Dogman
2nd January 2011, 01:28 PM
I worked up and deleted many times , where do the solids go? unless you take it apart to remove them!

StackerKen
2nd January 2011, 01:34 PM
I worked up and deleted many times , where do the solids go? unless you take it apart to remove them!


Dogman; Did you watch the videos?

Isn't that the solids coming out?

gunDriller
2nd January 2011, 01:53 PM
A proper press is heavy plates or wheels, with zero clearance , so things olives or nuts, grains or what ever , will be crushed so finely that all liquid =oil and water is expelled and has a way to be collected.

I call this one a scam, unless I can see more detail, what is given in the pic , no way in hell it can work!


i had a similar reaction, i like the arbor-press type arrangement because i can see how it works.

http://journeytoforever.org/media/o/oilpress7.jpg

i call it arbor-press from a machine shop background. here they call it a hydraulic jack. and they're using it to extract oil from sunflower seeds.


the "feed-screw" or "worm-screw" is not new technology, it's over a century old.

it's not a "something for nothing" thing, it takes a lot of work to extract the oil.

i think it's a good process to become familiar with, as part of self-sufficiency.

in production, they use a diesel engine to power the press. about 1/3 of the oil pressed goes to power the diesel engine that presses the feedstock.


the stuff that comes out usually makes a good feedstock for farm animals -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SIliUVpfmE&feature=player_embedded#

that video is jatropha oil, which grows in tropical regions.


the pic below shows ground-up sunflower seeds. some people say you have to remove the shells. this is part of the video where they use the hand-crank oil-press and sunflower seeds with the shells. the mash that comes out the end is wierd looking.

http://oi54.tinypic.com/o710yq.jpg

TheNocturnalEgyptian
2nd January 2011, 02:10 PM
Purest oil would probably be sans shells, is like that for most things

Probably can do it with shells and just filter it later however

If you're considering WTSHTF, you want the most pure input so your machinery doesn't break down or need replacement parts.

I like oil, but I #&$*%&ing love apple cider...uses a different type of press, still hand crank

http://www.beechhillartisans.com/cider%20press%20Grand%20alone%20BHA3.JPG

Serpo
2nd January 2011, 08:06 PM
Users manual

for professional use



1. Prior to first use

· Clean inside of press cage and the expeller screw with hot water and detergent.

· Mount the expeller with lock bolts and butterfly nuts on a vertical timber or directly on a sturdy table. Extraction of some seeds requires much power meaning the use of a very sturdy table or vertical timber.

· Slip the biggest washer over the shaft of the expeller screw and grease this washer immediately with some edible oil. – Do not use any other oil! – This washer is exposed to very high pressure and should always be well greased.

· Insert expeller screw into the press cage.

· Turn the cap onto the press cage.

· Depending on the type of seed the adjustment bolt can be turned into the cap.

· Prepare a funnel by cutting a plastic soft drink bottle at 15 cm from the outlet. (The outside diameter of this outlet should be 28 mm).

· Slip crank over the expeller shaft and fixate the crank with the small bolt and nut.

· Fill the glass container with coloured lamp oil. Place the wick holder with the wick on top of the glass container. Place the glass container on the foot of the expeller under the chimney. Tighten the container with an elastic band over the 2 projections on the vertical. Always check the quality of the elastic band before use!

· Place a small container under the oil outlet or place a small funnel through the hole under the oil outlet and connect with a tube to a bucket. This means drilling a hole in the table to accommodate the funnel.

· The oil expeller is now ready for use.



2. Seed

· Seed should be well dried.

· Sift the seed through a fine sieve to remove sand and through a coarse sieve to remove particles bigger than the seed such as straw and stones.

· Store well dried seed in plastic bags or well closed drums to avoid moisture attraction. Damp seed can not be expelled.

· Coarse seeds have to be broken or ground. Do not prepare more seed than can be processed the same day to avoid decay due to attraction of moisture from the air.



3. Oil expelling

· Grease the washer at the end of the expeller shaft with edible oil. This is very important!.

· Verify the use of the adjustment bolt according to the recommendation for the seed type. If the use of the adjustment bolt is recommended: leave the 2 press cake outlets fully open. When the press cake appears, the adjustment bolt can be tightened gradually to obtain a good flow of the oil and increased pressure.

· Light the wick.

· Fill the funnel with seed.

· Wait 10 minutes to heat the press cage.

· Start turning the crank clockwise quietly.

· The press cake will appear through the 2 holes in the cap. In the beginning some seeds may appear. Lightly stop the seed from appearing by use of your fingers.

· The oil will appear through the oil slit in the press cage.

· Check regularly the flow of the seed through the funnel. Use a small wooden stick to break any bridge formation in the funnel. Coarse or broken or angular seeds may lead to bridge formation.

· Clean the oil slit regularly with a small knife to avoid blockage.

· Do not extinguish the flame when pressing is resumed within 5 – 10 minutes. The press cake will remain plastic. In case the interruption is longer remove the cap and clean out the press cake before the cap cools down.



4. The oil

· The warm oil runs during expelling from the press cage head to the oil outlet halfway the press cage.

· Collect the oil in a small cup or tin.

· Leave the oil at room temperature for a few hours so that solids will settle. Oil with a high melting point, such as oil from oil palm kernel or coconut, should be kept hot or filtered immediately after expelling.

· Decant the oil and keep it in a closed container in a dark and cool place until used or sold.

· Important: never expel edible oil after expelling inedible oil without cleaning the expeller very well.

· Indicate type and origin of the oil and date of expelling on the label of the container to keep track of oil stocks.



5. Press cake

· The press cake of most oil seeds is suitable as animal feed (protein concentrate). Your extension officer can inform you.

· Do not add any oil to the press cake. Only press cake with a low oil content is suitable as an animal feed.

· Store the press cake immediately in a plastic bag or tightly closed drum to avoid spoilage by attraction of moisture.



6. After expelling

· Extinguish the burner.

· Remove and clean the cap at the end of the press cage immediately after expelling.

If the cap is allowed to cool down the press cake becomes hard like stone and is difficult to clean out.

Expelling with the adjustment bolt: remove the adjustment bolt. Add some seed in the funnel. By turning the crank the press cake will be pushed out of the cap. Clean the thread inside the cap with a small knife without damaging the thread. When turning the adjustment bolt in a dirty thread of the cap you may crack the cast iron cap.

Expelling without adjustment bolt: remove the cap from the press cage and clean the cap with a small knife without damaging the thread. Clean the thread inside the cap with hot water.

Forgotten to clean to clean cap immediately after expelling: The press cake is hard like stone and cannot be removed easily. Soak the cap for a few hours in hot water. The press cake will soften and can be removed easily.

· Wipe the press cage and the expeller screw with a slightly oily cloth.

· Pour the oil of the day in a closed container and place the container in a warm place to allow any dirt to settle during 1 – 2 days. Oil with a high melting point, such as from oil palm kernel, babasu or coprah, should be kept quite warm to allow dirt to settle. Decant the oil in a clean vessel for storage.





7. Questions and answers

· The expeller screw makes a scraping noise and turns difficult. Iron filings may be visible at the shaft near the press cage.

Solution:

Stop turning the crank immediately. The washer at the end of the expeller shaft was not greased or is absent. Expeller use without greasing the washer leads to excessive wear. Remove the cap, remove the expeller screw from the press cage, remove any filings and grease the washer.

· The press cake is squeezed from the oil slit

Solution:

The press cake runs backwards, because the 2 exits for the press cake in the cap are too small. Release the adjustment bolt to allow a bigger opening for the press cake.

Seed may be too damp and the press cake may run backwards. Dry the seed well.

· Oil appears with the press cake

Solution:

Reduce the exit openings for the press cake.

The expeller may be overheated. Reduce the flame of the burner by reducing the wick protruding above the wick holder. In some cases no flame is needed with a high ambient temperature once expelling has started with a preheated press cage

· The expeller cage fills up with oil

Solution:

The oil slit is blocked. Clean the oil slit with a knife.

The seed has a high oil content or is very small. The oil has no time to run to the oil slit. Turn the crank at a lower speed of about 45 rpm or less.

· Turning of the crank goes suddenly very lightly

Solution:

There is bridge formation in the funnel.

This can be prevented by pushing in the

funnel with a small stick. Never put your finger or an iron rod into the funnel.

· The adjustment bolt does not fit into the cap

Solution:

The thread inside the cap has not been cleaned properly. Clean the thread inside the cap with hot water. Subsequently the adjustment cap can easily mounted inside the cap.

· The expeller is too hot

Solution:

The heater has not been extinguished after expelling and the expeller is overheated. Remove and clean the cap. Cool down the expeller somewhat and continue expelling.

· The expeller is too cold

Solution:

The wick is too short. Extinguish the heater and pull the wick out slightly and light the flame again. (Watch out: the wick holder is hot!)

The flame extinguished spontaneously. Fill the container with lamp oil again.

· Soot formation on the press cage

Solution:

The wick is too long. Extinguish the flame, remove the wick holder from the bottle and pull the wick slightly downwards. The flame will now be smaller and soot formation will stop.

http://www.piteba.com/eng/users%20manual.htm

dirk1609
23rd April 2011, 06:58 AM
I have been selling these on the internet for around 3 years. I started due to way to many mac nut trees on our property. I wanted to be able to make oil and we did. It has a learning curve but it works great.
Any questions about it let me know. They are available on Amazon and ebay.

crazychicken
24th April 2011, 12:32 PM
Certainly looks like something to consider!

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