Need Help - Anyone live in or around Salt Lake City?

[General of Darkness]

To make a long story short. Enzo's brothers have basically been dog napped by a former friend of the dog breeder I got my dog from. This POS paid $375 for three dogs with the premise that he was going to feed and train all three dogs and then give the breeder two of the dogs back. This is all documented btw. He's not returning calls or emails and we feel the worse for the dogs.

Just so people UNDERSTAND, I fully expect Enzo to be a champion schutzhund dog within the next 2 - 3 years. Enzo's trainer and people that have seen Enzo know that there's something VERY special about this dog, his BLOOD LINE, and the other puppies. The breeder hit the nail on the head with these dogs, and anyone that's worked with working dogs knows what that means.

Here's the issue, we need to get these dogs into the hands of people that will make them the best possible dogs they can be, because they're coming up to a year old at the end of January and we don't want to wait before they're completely ruined.

I have addresses, names etc, but we need someone on the ground to help with this recovery. Yes, we're talking to attorneys etc, but that takes money and information.

So PM me if you can help.

FYI - The breeder, and good friend, is Sukhoi Fan (gim1) and Midnight Rambler here

[Mouse]

Maybe Vick can help you out with the perps on this. Seems to me that you get involved in a lot of shady situations and then have to crap a loaf to get things right. Perhaps you are running with some of the wrong dogs?

I could be wrong, either way, I hope you get your dogs back. Don't go to jail over sports collectibles. Maybe you should just get a small bug out property somewhere and contemplate, well, bugging the hell out.

Peace

[Light]

Is that some kind of poodle?

[midnight rambler]

Is that some kind of poodle?


While you think you're being cute, the fact is that standard poodles can be pretty fierce protection dogs. I wouldn't tangle with one.

Another fact: you're a dumb ass for posting such nonsense.

[Light]

Hey, I'm just trying to learn.

[gunDriller]

Is that some kind of poodle?


While you think you're being cute, the fact is that standard poodles can be pretty fierce protection dogs. I wouldn't tangle with one.

the only time i've ever been bit by a dog where it drew blood ... it was a poodle.

[Book]

Is that some kind of poodle?



While you think you're being cute, the fact is that standard poodles can be pretty fierce protection dogs. I wouldn't tangle with one.

Another fact: you're a dumb ass for posting such nonsense.



http://images.ocregister.com/newsimages/show/2005/03/24poodles.jpg

Can't imagine why poodle men get such disrespect...

:dunno

[General of Darkness]

Maybe Vick can help you out with the perps on this. Seems to me that you get involved in a lot of shady situations and then have to crap a loaf to get things right. Perhaps you are running with some of the wrong dogs?

I could be wrong, either way, I hope you get your dogs back. Don't go to jail over sports collectibles. Maybe you should just get a small bug out property somewhere and contemplate, well, bugging the hell out.

Peace


Mouse I'm trying to help a friend out you idiot. I "assumed" that since there's a lot of decent people on here that someone might be able to help, not get a bunch of bullshit from the fuck heads on here. I can understand Light being a prick since his a limp wristed little bitch, but you on the other hand are just being a cunt. Well as the saying goes, when You Assume, You Make An “Ass” out of “U” and “Me”. I think it's time from me to depart this place.

[Libertytree]

Maybe Vick can help you out with the perps on this. Seems to me that you get involved in a lot of shady situations and then have to crap a loaf to get things right. Perhaps you are running with some of the wrong dogs?

I could be wrong, either way, I hope you get your dogs back. Don't go to jail over sports collectibles. Maybe you should just get a small bug out property somewhere and contemplate, well, bugging the hell out.

Peace


Mouse I'm trying to help a friend out you idiot. I "assumed" that since there's a lot of decent people on here that someone might be able to help, not get a bunch of bullsh*t from the f*ck heads on here. I can understand Light being a prick since his a limp wristed little bitch, but you on the other hand are just being a cunt. Well as the saying goes, when You Assume, You Make An “Ass” out of “U” and “Me”. I think it's time from me to depart this place.


Easy GoD, you're right, there is a lot of good folks here just none in the position to help ya. Hell, I'd repo the dogs for ya myself if I were in SLC! But to dismiss the entire board for for a couple of comments ain't right either.

[Awoke]

I think it's time from me to depart this place.


Easy, brother. No need to depart.

What I am curious about is, if Midnight Rambler and Sukhoi Fan are teh breeders, why didn't they post this thread?
I mean, you're on the west coast, right? Are they on the west coast too, or in Salt Lake City?

I'm just not sure I understand the situation described in the OP.

[General of Darkness]

I think it's time from me to depart this place.


Easy, brother. No need to depart.

What I am curious about is, if Midnight Rambler and Sukhoi Fan are teh breeders, why didn't they post this thread?
I mean, you're on the west coast, right? Are they on the west coast too, or in Salt Lake City?

I'm just not sure I understand the situation described in the OP.



I'm CA, Rambler is in Texas. The schutzhund club I train with are in Bakersfield and it's the largest doberman club in the U.S. and I know we can get the dogs placed with good people that will actually work the dogs. All I'm tryin to do is help.

[Light]

Maybe Vick can help you out with the perps on this. Seems to me that you get involved in a lot of shady situations and then have to crap a loaf to get things right. Perhaps you are running with some of the wrong dogs?

I could be wrong, either way, I hope you get your dogs back. Don't go to jail over sports collectibles. Maybe you should just get a small bug out property somewhere and contemplate, well, bugging the hell out.

Peace


Mouse I'm trying to help a friend out you idiot. I "assumed" that since there's a lot of decent people on here that someone might be able to help, not get a bunch of bullsh*t from the f*ck heads on here. I can understand Light being a prick since his a limp wristed little bitch, but you on the other hand are just being a cunt. Well as the saying goes, when You Assume, You Make An “Ass” out of “U” and “Me”. I think it's time from me to depart this place.


If you had any gonads you'd drive up to Salt Lake and get Sukhoi's sh*tzus back for him. You could express their anal glands on the way home.

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[midnight rambler]

Queer minds think queer thoughts. -Dr. Rosenbloom

[Awoke]

I think it's time from me to depart this place.


Easy, brother. No need to depart.

What I am curious about is, if Midnight Rambler and Sukhoi Fan are teh breeders, why didn't they post this thread?
I mean, you're on the west coast, right? Are they on the west coast too, or in Salt Lake City?

I'm just not sure I understand the situation described in the OP.



I'm CA, Rambler is in Texas. The schutzhund club I train with are in Bakersfield and it's the largest doberman club in the U.S. and I know we can get the dogs placed with good people that will actually work the dogs. All I'm tryin to do is help.


Yeah, but didn't you say that you don't know where the dogs are now?
Or is it a case where you guys actually know where the guy lives, but you just live too far away?

I wish I could help, but I'm not anywhere near there.

[midnight rambler]

Yeah, but didn't you say that you don't know where the dogs are now?
Or is it a case where you guys actually know where the guy lives, but you just live too far away?

I wish I could help, but I'm not anywhere near there.



We have the location where one or two of the puppies were a couple of months ago. One is likely still there. Status of the other two is currently unknown.

This video was taken of them in early October. By the posturing one can see that they are going to be fighting each other soon after this video was shot as they mature, if they are kept together - which is probably why the third one is not there with those two. The party who took this video was all set to recover these two but he got cold feet after talking to a shyster he knows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpqF21J2iAU

[MNeagle]

Can't you just call the Humane Society or something?

Traveling cross-country/a few states over seems a bit of a reach to me imo.

[midnight rambler]

Can't you just call the Humane Society or something?

Traveling cross-country/a few states over seems a bit of a reach to me imo.


Their condition at the time of the video was just good enough to pass an animal control inspection, although they were filthy and their fur stunk (of fecal matter).

[MNeagle]

Then time for a new call perhaps.

[ShortJohnSilver]

To make a long story short. Enzo's brothers have basically been dog napped by a former friend of the dog breeder I got my dog from. This POS paid $375 for three dogs with the premise that he was going to feed and train all three dogs and then give the breeder two of the dogs back. This is all documented btw. He's not returning calls or emails and we feel the worse for the dogs.



Get in your **** car, drive out to SLC with the wronged party, take along a baseball bat, the brightest tac flashlight you got, a Leatherman and a 6-pack of duct tape.

I know you can solve the problem.

Most sheeple wouldn't know the difference between a schutzhound and a dachshund ... YOU have the ability to spot them, track them down, figure out how this moron who took them thinks.

DO IT.

[midnight rambler]

To make a long story short. Enzo's brothers have basically been dog napped by a former friend of the dog breeder I got my dog from. This POS paid $375 for three dogs with the premise that he was going to feed and train all three dogs and then give the breeder two of the dogs back. This is all documented btw. He's not returning calls or emails and we feel the worse for the dogs.



Get in your **** car, drive out to SLC with the wronged party, take along a baseball bat, the brightest tac flashlight you got, a Leatherman and a 6-pack of duct tape.

I know you can solve the problem.

Most sheeple wouldn't know the difference between a schutzhound and a dachshund ... YOU have the ability to spot them, track them down, figure out how this moron who took them thinks.

DO IT.


Thanks for the thought, and while that sounds very enticing, not a single element of it is practical.

[k-os]

General of Darkness, are you asking for something like a dog bounty hunter? (Unintentional, but in tact pun, and I expect no pardon.)

I mean, do you want someone to physically remove the dog from the possession of someone else?

Because if it's southern Utah, I could do a simple transport since I am mobile, always up for a mission, and a serious dog lover. Or do you need some muscle involved here?

Regardless, I wish the dogs, you and midnight rambler the best possible outcome.

[Gaillo]

If you had any gonads you'd drive up to Salt Lake and get Sukhoi's sh*tzus back for him. You could express their anal glands on the way home.


If YOU had any gonads, you'd tell the general that to his face... his name and address are widely known - unlike "big man" internet cowards and trolls like yourself. You come in his thread, crap all over it with the poodles comment, then post THAT insulting crap? I've watched you from day one, Light, and you contribute next to nothing to this forum - in fact I'd go so far as saying you go out of your way to tear it down and cause as much division as you can.

30 days... which is far less than you deserve IMNSHO. If you decide to come back, please check the shiity attitude at the door.
-Gaillo