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7th trump
6th January 2011, 04:06 PM
I went to pay my union dues and across the road is a coin shop, so after ten years of never going into it I decided to see what was inside and what kind of coins they had. I was mainly looking for some junk silver. Anyway I end up buying 10 90% silver dimes (1950's). Total cost was 63.00 and some change.
I get home and look at them for what I paid for them (I bit high myself). They are real nice looking coins by the way. Anyway I didnt notice that one coin was priced at 15.00 until right at check out time which I said what the hell and purchased it anyway. They were all suppose to be 2.00 each which all but 4 were. Two were at 4.00 and to my surprise I have a 42.50 dime (1950 S CH BU) in there that he charge only 2.50 for. The 4 and the $ were so close together that he over looked it.
Hohoho............Merry Christmas to me!
Also, one of the 2.00 dimes is a 1960 proof...............is 2.00 correct or is that also a mistake?

I'm probably going to return the 42.50 dime to make it right. I think he overlooked it when we were talking about some junk silver he had in the vault while writing up the receipt.

mick silver
6th January 2011, 04:10 PM
i am sure he would do the same when it time for you to sell

TheNocturnalEgyptian
6th January 2011, 04:22 PM
Actually for anyone who is Coptic, tonight is Christmas Eve and tomorrow is Christmas ; )

ximmy
6th January 2011, 04:27 PM
I don't think you owe him anything... he has the responsibility to his business to carefully search his products (you are not working for him)... you do the same thing for yourself... and scored... it goes back and forth.

congrats on the find!!!

JDRock
6th January 2011, 04:29 PM
id keep mum about it and head back there andsee what other bargains are afoot.....

TheNocturnalEgyptian
6th January 2011, 09:50 PM
7th Trump...if you bought a bag of junk silver, the same thing might happen if the owner was not diligent enough to sort before he sells it. The fact that some of his mercs were 2.00 and some were 15.00 means he is grading them actively, so I have no idea why he did not properly grade the one you have in your posession.. If you purchased a dime from him which happens to have a valuable mint mark, as long as you paid what he asked for it, I do not see this as dishonest in the least - I see it the same as you buying a bag of junk silver and getting a valuable mint mark among the common ones.

A deal is a deal, but you can walk right back in there and make a new deal with him if you want. The deal can be that you return the coin, and either he'll tell you that he meant to sell it to you as such, or he'll ask to buy it back, probably make it worth your while, and you may gain a friend in the process.

Really I don't see any paths that are dishonest. You're set either way, whichever you do.

Brent
7th January 2011, 03:06 PM
Better do the "right" thing, you wouldn't want to go to hell now would you? ::)

Remember, dog sees all!

midnight rambler
7th January 2011, 03:09 PM
Better do the "right" thing, you wouldn't want to go to hell now would you? ::)

Remember, dog sees all!


God will not be mocked. Don't be tempting The Stark Fist of Removal.

Libertytree
7th January 2011, 04:11 PM
Simple, roll the $42 dime into FRNs and go back and do some more business with him, win/win.

MNeagle
7th January 2011, 06:24 PM
What did you decide 7th?

7th trump
8th January 2011, 07:42 AM
What did you decide 7th?

Did the right thing and took it back.
I know its against what most here think and beleive, but now I have a pretty good relationship with the owner as trust worthy.

I based my decision on
1. Being honest and making it right-
2. That one dime will not fetch $42.50 when the shtf?
Therefore honesty and trust worthiness again out weighs greed.

It wont be anymore valueable than the 90% silver content than a junk dime will be worth in a shtf scenario.

freespirit
8th January 2011, 07:49 AM
good for you, 7th trump!

that was definitley the right thing to do. Good karma, guaranteed!
;D

how many of us would have done the same? not too many, i'm guessing. not even sure if i would have, but well done! lead by example!!

midnight rambler
8th January 2011, 07:56 AM
A couple of years ago I offered a 32' ladder for sale on CL for $200. A fellow contacted me and said he wanted it. We made an appointment for him to come over and inspect it. Upon inspecting it he counted out and handed me $300 in FRNs (his counter-offer). I accepted his counter-offer.

7th trump
8th January 2011, 09:24 AM
A couple of years ago I offered a 32' ladder for sale on CL for $200. A fellow contacted me and said he wanted it. We made an appointment for him to come over and inspect it. Upon inspecting it he counted out and handed me $300 in FRNs (his counter-offer). I accepted his counter-offer.

To each his own.

midnight rambler
8th January 2011, 10:05 AM
A couple of years ago I offered a 32' ladder for sale on CL for $200. A fellow contacted me and said he wanted it. We made an appointment for him to come over and inspect it. Upon inspecting it he counted out and handed me $300 in FRNs (his counter-offer). I accepted his counter-offer.

To each his own.



he counted out and handed me $300

He physically counted out three individual $100 bills, "One, two, three" and handed them to me. It wasn't like there were three fresh FRNs which were clinging to each other and difficult to separate thereby causing a counting error - had that been the case I would have handed one back to him. I even stood there momentarily with the three distinct FRNs in my hand in front of him waiting for him to say something like "Oh, OOPS!". It was not at all like I did not provide him the opportunity to correct himself, I merely remained silent (thinking to myself, "Well...alrighty then"). The ladder was like new and the replacement cost was nearly $400. He was happy and completely satisfied with the deal. He thanked me and shook my hand just before he drove off with his like new ladder. What more could one ask for? :conf:

ETA: As I recall it now, I was originally listing the ladder on CL for $295, however 2-3 weeks had passed and I needed to move it so I eventually lowered the price from $295 to $275, then to $250, then to $225, then to $195. The current and only CL ad at the time was for $195. Perhaps he was just a very generous fellow, who am I to judge? We were both satisfied with the deal.

7th trump
8th January 2011, 12:09 PM
A couple of years ago I offered a 32' ladder for sale on CL for $200. A fellow contacted me and said he wanted it. We made an appointment for him to come over and inspect it. Upon inspecting it he counted out and handed me $300 in FRNs (his counter-offer). I accepted his counter-offer.

To each his own.



he counted out and handed me $300

He physically counted out three individual $100 bills, "One, two, three" and handed them to me. It wasn't like there were three fresh FRNs which were clinging to each other and difficult to separate thereby causing a counting error - had that been the case I would have handed one back to him. I even stood there momentarily with the three distinct FRNs in my hand in front of him waiting for him to say something like "Oh, OOPS!". It was not at all like I did not provide him the opportunity to correct himself, I merely remained silent (thinking to myself, "Well...alrighty then"). The ladder was like new and the replacement cost was nearly $400. He was happy and completely satisfied with the deal. He thanked me and shook my hand just before he drove off with his like new ladder. What more could one ask for? :conf:

ETA: As I recall it now, I was originally listing the ladder on CL for $295, however 2-3 weeks had passed and I needed to move it so I eventually lowered the price from $295 to $275, then to $250, then to $225, then to $195. The current and only CL ad at the time was for $195. Perhaps he was just a very generous fellow, who am I to judge? We were both satisfied with the deal.

I'm not saying anything against you.
Just, to each his own!
The guy was generous to you........good for you.
But in my instance its wasnt like that. We were in a conversation about his way of selling bags of junk silver when he rang up my total. Obviously he overlooked the 40.00.
I returned it as I'm not an opportunitst in that way.
I play the game that all parties know the score before a deal goes down.
Heck, I tell the person what the item is worth just so they know they can sell at a higher price. I may not buy it at that price, but the person atleast knows whats going on.
Its not like going to a garage sale and watching an antique dealer rip off a person by argueing a lower price for something thats already a monster of a deal.
Theives in my book when the person is desperately in need of cash.

Theres a Bible passages that goes alone the line that God asks:
Would you not sell everything you had to purchase land knowing theres gold you can dig up?"
Of course this passage is about giving up the material world for salvation where you get everything anyway.

big country
8th January 2011, 05:38 PM
A couple of years ago I offered a 32' ladder for sale on CL for $200. A fellow contacted me and said he wanted it. We made an appointment for him to come over and inspect it. Upon inspecting it he counted out and handed me $300 in FRNs (his counter-offer). I accepted his counter-offer.

To each his own.



he counted out and handed me $300

He physically counted out three individual $100 bills, "One, two, three" and handed them to me. It wasn't like there were three fresh FRNs which were clinging to each other and difficult to separate thereby causing a counting error - had that been the case I would have handed one back to him. I even stood there momentarily with the three distinct FRNs in my hand in front of him waiting for him to say something like "Oh, OOPS!". It was not at all like I did not provide him the opportunity to correct himself, I merely remained silent (thinking to myself, "Well...alrighty then"). The ladder was like new and the replacement cost was nearly $400. He was happy and completely satisfied with the deal. He thanked me and shook my hand just before he drove off with his like new ladder. What more could one ask for? :conf:

ETA: As I recall it now, I was originally listing the ladder on CL for $295, however 2-3 weeks had passed and I needed to move it so I eventually lowered the price from $295 to $275, then to $250, then to $225, then to $195. The current and only CL ad at the time was for $195. Perhaps he was just a very generous fellow, who am I to judge? We were both satisfied with the deal.

I'm not saying anything against you.
Just, to each his own!
The guy was generous to you........good for you.
But in my instance its wasnt like that. We were in a conversation about his way of selling bags of junk silver when he rang up my total. Obviously he overlooked the 40.00.
I returned it as I'm not an opportunitst in that way.
I play the game that all parties know the score before a deal goes down.
Heck, I tell the person what the item is worth just so they know they can sell at a higher price. I may not buy it at that price, but the person atleast knows whats going on.
Its not like going to a garage sale and watching an antique dealer rip off a person by argueing a lower price for something thats already a monster of a deal.
Theives in my book when the person is desperately in need of cash.

Theres a Bible passages that goes alone the line that God asks:
Would you not sell everything you had to purchase land knowing theres gold you can dig up?"
Of course this passage is about giving up the material world for salvation where you get everything anyway.



What was your dealers reaction if you don't mind me asking? Just curious what he did on his end? was he grateful, shocked, etc?

7th trump
8th January 2011, 06:20 PM
A couple of years ago I offered a 32' ladder for sale on CL for $200. A fellow contacted me and said he wanted it. We made an appointment for him to come over and inspect it. Upon inspecting it he counted out and handed me $300 in FRNs (his counter-offer). I accepted his counter-offer.

To each his own.



he counted out and handed me $300

He physically counted out three individual $100 bills, "One, two, three" and handed them to me. It wasn't like there were three fresh FRNs which were clinging to each other and difficult to separate thereby causing a counting error - had that been the case I would have handed one back to him. I even stood there momentarily with the three distinct FRNs in my hand in front of him waiting for him to say something like "Oh, OOPS!". It was not at all like I did not provide him the opportunity to correct himself, I merely remained silent (thinking to myself, "Well...alrighty then"). The ladder was like new and the replacement cost was nearly $400. He was happy and completely satisfied with the deal. He thanked me and shook my hand just before he drove off with his like new ladder. What more could one ask for? :conf:

ETA: As I recall it now, I was originally listing the ladder on CL for $295, however 2-3 weeks had passed and I needed to move it so I eventually lowered the price from $295 to $275, then to $250, then to $225, then to $195. The current and only CL ad at the time was for $195. Perhaps he was just a very generous fellow, who am I to judge? We were both satisfied with the deal.

I'm not saying anything against you.
Just, to each his own!
The guy was generous to you........good for you.
But in my instance its wasnt like that. We were in a conversation about his way of selling bags of junk silver when he rang up my total. Obviously he overlooked the 40.00.
I returned it as I'm not an opportunitst in that way.
I play the game that all parties know the score before a deal goes down.
Heck, I tell the person what the item is worth just so they know they can sell at a higher price. I may not buy it at that price, but the person atleast knows whats going on.
Its not like going to a garage sale and watching an antique dealer rip off a person by argueing a lower price for something thats already a monster of a deal.
Theives in my book when the person is desperately in need of cash.

Theres a Bible passages that goes alone the line that God asks:
Would you not sell everything you had to purchase land knowing theres gold you can dig up?"
Of course this passage is about giving up the material world for salvation where you get everything anyway.



What was your dealers reaction if you don't mind me asking? Just curious what he did on his end? was he grateful, shocked, etc?

Embarrassed, but I assured him that it really was an honest mistake giving the circumstances of our discussion during check out.
I mean I was drilling the guy about why he only sells bags of junk at a minimum of 125.00.
I didnt think it was right and he might rethink about selling to individual repeat customers. He said it was because people (nonrepeat) pick through so much its not worth dickering on an individual basis over junk.

7th trump
8th January 2011, 06:25 PM
I went to pay my union dues and across the road is a coin shop, so after ten years of never going into it I decided to see what was inside and what kind of coins they had. I was mainly looking for some junk silver. Anyway I end up buying 10 90% silver dimes (1950's). Total cost was 63.00 and some change.
I get home and look at them for what I paid for them (I bit high myself). They are real nice looking coins by the way. Anyway I didnt notice that one coin was priced at 15.00 until right at check out time which I said what the hell and purchased it anyway. They were all suppose to be 2.00 each which all but 4 were. Two were at 4.00 and to my surprise I have a 42.50 dime (1950 S CH BU) in there that he charge only 2.50 for. The 4 and the $ were so close together that he over looked it.
Hohoho............Merry Christmas to me!
Also, one of the 2.00 dimes is a 1960 proof...............is 2.00 correct or is that also a mistake?

I'm probably going to return the 42.50 dime to make it right. I think he overlooked it when we were talking about some junk silver he had in the vault while writing up the receipt.


if you are just making this story up

I would be devastated

who to believe these days?

Well update its real.
And why would it be devastating?

Santa
8th January 2011, 06:49 PM
Good for you, 7th...

Once I bought a roll of BU Peace Dollars off ebay. I received them and was satisfied, but the next week I received another. Admittedly I waited a while to see if he might catch his error. He didn't.

I had to think about it pretty hard, but after a couple weeks I sent the roll back to him. He never even responded with a thanks... nothing.

Now I think maybe he'd gone ill or died or something.

Anyway, I'm glad i sent it back.

Your act helps the world, It adds to it. It doesn't subtract from it.

big country
8th January 2011, 07:40 PM
Embarrassed, but I assured him that it really was an honest mistake giving the circumstances of our discussion during check out.
I mean I was drilling the guy about why he only sells bags of junk at a minimum of 125.00.
I didnt think it was right and he might rethink about selling to individual repeat customers. He said it was because people (nonrepeat) pick through so much its not worth dickering on an individual basis over junk.


I had a similar experience at a dealer. I asked to see his junk tray of dimes. I started picking out the mercury dimes and he said "I hope you aren't looking for any particular date" and I said nope, just want all the mercury dimes you have. He responded well you have to buy atleast $10 face of junk if you want all the mercury dimes. I said, "dude, you don't even have $10 face in here if I talk ALL the dimes you have in this container." He responded, "hmph, ok fine do whatever the F**k you want." I bought the mercury dimes, and I've never been back. What an asshole.

Libertytree
8th January 2011, 08:33 PM
Good for you, 7th...

Once I bought a roll of BU Peace Dollars off ebay. I received them and was satisfied, but the next week I received another. Admittedly I waited a while to see if he might catch his error. He didn't.

I had to think about it pretty hard, but after a couple weeks I sent the roll back to him. He never even responded with a thanks... nothing.

Now I think maybe he'd gone ill or died or something.

Anyway, I'm glad i sent it back.

Your act helps the world, It adds to it. It doesn't subtract from it.


That is similar to what has happened to me a couple of times or more via ebay a few years back

I didn't return but I gave the seller a heads up


You gave him a heads up? You mean you rubbed his nose in his own mistake, lol. That's cold dude.

k-os
8th January 2011, 08:45 PM
What did you decide 7th?

Did the right thing and took it back.
I know its against what most here think and beleive, but now I have a pretty good relationship with the owner as trust worthy.

I based my decision on
1. Being honest and making it right-
2. That one dime will not fetch $42.50 when the shtf?
Therefore honesty and trust worthiness again out weighs greed.

It wont be anymore valueable than the 90% silver content than a junk dime will be worth in a shtf scenario.


I didn't want to give my "you should" advice here, but I am really glad that you did the right thing. I expected nothing less from you, based on your posts. ;)

Integrity is worth more than FRNs.

7th trump
8th January 2011, 08:58 PM
What did you decide 7th?

Did the right thing and took it back.
I know its against what most here think and beleive, but now I have a pretty good relationship with the owner as trust worthy.

I based my decision on
1. Being honest and making it right-
2. That one dime will not fetch $42.50 when the shtf?
Therefore honesty and trust worthiness again out weighs greed.

It wont be anymore valueable than the 90% silver content than a junk dime will be worth in a shtf scenario.


I didn't want to give my "you should" advice here, but I am really glad that you did the right thing. I expected nothing less from you, based on your posts. ;)

Integrity is worth more than FRNs.

Why thank you so much K-os

k-os
8th January 2011, 09:04 PM
I didn't want to give my "you should" advice here, but I am really glad that you did the right thing. I expected nothing less from you, based on your posts. ;)

Integrity is worth more than FRNs.

Why thank you so much K-os


Oh no. Thank you. I agree with what Santa said:


Your act helps the world, It adds to it. It doesn't subtract from it.

StackerKen
8th January 2011, 09:34 PM
I agree with the others 7th. You did the right thing IMO

7th trump
9th January 2011, 07:12 AM
I agree with the others 7th. You did the right thing IMO

Thanks Ken!

A good reputation goes farther than any physical wealth imo, atleast in my part of the midwest anyway.
Its just the way I was brought up.
I admit my faults as I'm not perfect, but I try to be.

7th trump
10th January 2011, 01:40 PM
Update.
Went back after work today to get some more dimes and the owner, for being honest about the 42.50 dime, gave me a 1950 dime.

Goes to show honesty is the best policy.

freespirit
10th January 2011, 02:07 PM
proof that you definitely did the right thing. it may have been a small thing, but he will remember you and your honesty, and i bet he's shared the story with others too...you are inspiring those you haven't even met! lol

good job, man!