Jackie was a Jewess and she fired the fatal shot that killed JFK.

[Bigjon]

This is the website that opened my eyes:
http://realityreviewed.com/JFK%20murder.htm


Well it seems that this topic is over the top for some people here.

Impossible say most, that Jackie fired the fatal shot, but rodin has proved that the bullet was fired in the moving car and demonstrates his analysis here
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1059567140&postcount=191

I’ll let rodin make the oh so appropriate comment here.


I think this posts encapsulates the proof and the quality of the opposition to it

http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=1004181&postcount=141


Some of you girls who post here show why the Jews have put women in charge of the USA, emotions do your thinking.

[Book]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/conspiracy-theories/jackie-shot-jfk/

DUPLICATE THREAD

;D

[Serpo]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/conspiracy-theories/jackie-shot-jfk/

DUPLICATE THREAD

;D

Name one thread on GD that isnt a conspiracy...... ::)

[Serpo]

Still a shooter also on the grassy knoll.......

[Neuro]

The logic is impeccable. The only other option is that JFK committed suicide...

[Bigjon]

Still a shooter also on the grassy knoll.......


Quite possible, but I think for backup and or distraction, a second story line if the lone nut Oswald story doesn't fly.

[Cebu_4_2]

The logic is impeccable. The only other option is that JFK committed suicide...


That's just stoopid thinking, it is obvious he had a heart attack. The thing that appeared from his head was the nurse jackys respirator mask blowing off in the wind as they were rushing to the hospital.

[Bullion_Bob]

I call massive bullshit on this.

You can clearly see her put her hand on his shoulder, and leave it there, and there is nothing in her hand. Unless he was hiding a gun in his lapel for her to use, this is quite simply ridiculous beyond belief.

This is as stupid as the people saying the driver shot him. There's a thread on GIM2 about it, and that guy is as lunatic as it gets, worse actually.

[Bigjon]

I call massive bullsh*t on this.

You can clearly see her put her hand on his shoulder, and leave it there, and there is nothing in her hand. Unless he was hiding a gun in his lapel for her to use, this is quite simply ridiculous beyond belief.

This is as stupid as the people saying the driver shot him. There's a thread on GIM2 about it, and that guy is as lunatic as it gets, worse actually.




I can't see that. I can't see her right hand at the time of the shot, his head is in the way.

But I can see the puff of gunsmoke on the left side of his head and watch it being carried away by the relative motion of the car.

[Bullion_Bob]

I call massive bullsh*t on this.

You can clearly see her put her hand on his shoulder, and leave it there, and there is nothing in her hand. Unless he was hiding a gun in his lapel for her to use, this is quite simply ridiculous beyond belief.

This is as stupid as the people saying the driver shot him. There's a thread on GIM2 about it, and that guy is as lunatic as it gets, worse actually.




I can't see that. I can't see her right hand at the time of the shot, his head is in the way.

But I can see the puff of gunsmoke on the left side of his head and watch it being carried away by the relative motion of the car.


That's the spray of blood. There is no smoke.

I think through the power of suggestion some people will believe he was shot from outer space.

what smoke?
http://realityreviewed.com/Headshot.gif

[Bigjon]

http://users.bergen.org/ricpan/jfk/photo313.jpg

The red stuff is blood and the grey stuff is smoke.

[Serpo]

Still a shooter also on the grassy knoll.......


Quite possible, but I think for backup and or distraction, a second story line if the lone nut Oswald story doesn't fly.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSQdnAcCbXI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-_06iHdM3A

[Bullion_Bob]

http://users.bergen.org/ricpan/jfk/photo313.jpg

The red stuff is blood and the grey stuff is smoke.


I see "smoke" all over the place in the grass as well. It's the picture. In order to get the angle of the shot to match up with the exit wound she would have to have her hand behind his shoulder.

His wife, the mother of his children, pulls out a gun in front of everyone right in the limo, and shoots him in the head at an impossible angle. It's as crazy as it sounds.

[Bigjon]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/fake-mist_o_GIFSoupcom.gif

[keehah]

What the hell is that green blob with yellow tipped tentacles between the two in front of the first family?
An alien shot JFK!?! ;D

(I've settled on the grassy knoll years back)

[Bigjon]

What the hell is that green blob with yellow tipped tentacles between the two in front of the first family?
An alien shot JFK!?! ;D


I think it's a bouquet of flowers or an alien from uranus.

[Neuro]

What the hell is that green blob with yellow tipped tentacles between the two in front of the first family?
An alien shot JFK!?! ;D

(I've settled on the grassy knoll years back)
Call me crazy, but I think it may be a bouquet of yellow tulips.

[Bullion_Bob]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/fake-mist_o_GIFSoupcom.gif



At what angle could she possibly be holding a gun in that position to get the front of his head to blow out.

None that allows the physics of bullet trajectories.

[Cebu_4_2]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/fake-mist_o_GIFSoupcom.gif



At what angle could she possibly be holding a gun in that position to get the front of his head to blow out.

None that allows the physics of bullet trajectories.


To the rear and below his left ear. You surprise me Bob... really had me fooled.

[Book]

His wife, the mother of his children, pulls out a gun in front of everyone right in the limo, and shoots him in the head at an impossible angle. It's as crazy as it sounds.



Yep. Wacky.

[Tumbleweed]

Bigjon in your post #13 the video show doesn't show what Jackie did with her hands leading up to the moment when JFK's head exploded. It's misleading.

Can someone here post the video Bigjon posted in the thread about JB Hunts confession? I don't know how to do it. It's in post #70 at this link.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/hunt's-deathbed-confession-reveals-jfk-killers/40/

It shows clearly what she was doing with her hands. Her right hand is on his left arm and her left hand is holding his forearm.

[mamboni]

Jackie didn't shoot JFK. It's a complelely absurd proposition. :oo-->

[Neuro]

Jackie didn't shoot JFK. It's a complelely absurd proposition. :oo-->
The tulips acted kind of cracy after the shot...

[Cebu_4_2]

Should be a poll on this one...

[Bigjon]

Should be a poll on this one...


Opinions are not evidence.

[Bigjon]

Bigjon in your post #13 the video show doesn't show what Jackie did with her hands leading up to the moment when JFK's head exploded. It's misleading.

Can someone here post the video Bigjon posted in the thread about JB Hunts confession? I don't know how to do it. It's in post #70 at this link.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/hunt's-deathbed-confession-reveals-jfk-killers/40/

It shows clearly what she was doing with her hands. Her right hand is on his left arm and her left hand is holding his forearm.




I think what Jackie was doing with her hands has been obscured by leaving out some frames and inserting obstructions of the film on either side of the "big event". The background scenes move in a jerky fashion at those points in the film.


http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/jk_o_GIFSoupcom.gif


It looks like she has something in her right hand and her left hand has nothing.

[Book]

http://www.911hardfacts.com/images/wtc-7.gif

OH...LOOKIE OVER THERE AT JACKIE KENNEDY!

http://www.digitalmedialawyerblog.com/605486_finger_pointing_left_with_clipping_path.jpg

[mamboni]

Bigjon in your post #13 the video show doesn't show what Jackie did with her hands leading up to the moment when JFK's head exploded. It's misleading.

Can someone here post the video Bigjon posted in the thread about JB Hunts confession? I don't know how to do it. It's in post #70 at this link.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/hunt's-deathbed-confession-reveals-jfk-killers/40/

It shows clearly what she was doing with her hands. Her right hand is on his left arm and her left hand is holding his forearm.






I think what Jackie was doing with her hands has been obscured by leaving out some frames and inserting obstructions of the film on either side of the "big event". The background scenes move in a jerky fashion at those points in the film.


http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/jk_o_GIFSoupcom.gif


It looks like she has something in her right hand and her left hand has nothing.


You know, it is awefully early in the day to be smoking angel-dust-laced marijuana. ;D

[mamboni]

Should be a poll on this one...


Opinions are not evidence.


You misunderstand. The poll is not about the Jackie-did-JFK theory, but whether the OP is yanking our collective chain.

[sirgonzo420]

Should be a poll on this one...


Opinions are not evidence.


You misunderstand. The poll is not about the Jackie-did-JFK theory, but whether the OP is yanking our collective chain.


I think the OP is serious.

[mamboni]

Should be a poll on this one...


Opinions are not evidence.


You misunderstand. The poll is not about the Jackie-did-JFK theory, but whether the OP is yanking our collective chain.


I think the OP is serious.


If he is then he needs a good psychiatrist or optometrist.

[Awoke]

I am with you BigJon, but I don't mean to say that I am 100% convinced. I have watched all these videos a million times, and her hands are extremely busy, before during and after teh shooting.

Her body language is not typical of a wife sitting beside a husband that gets shot in the head. Everyone else in the car flinch, cringe and duck in the moments of the shot, where she does none of those thing, and her hands look like she's doing a magic card trick as she begins to stand up to climb out onto the car boot.

I know that it is 100% possible that Jackie did it, but I'm only about 90% that it is likely that she did it.

[Awoke]

After watching this loop about bunch of times, I noticed something else.

After the shot, just as she is starting to climb up onto the back of the car, it the jewess brings her left and right hand together, as if to pass something into her right hand. Right after that, sweeps her right hand across the V-neck of her sweater, and it almost looks as if she is dropping something down her shirt before she makes the climb out onto the boot of the car.

Watch it again a bunch of times. Really focus on her hands. The are extremely busy in the seconds after his head explodes.

(See the loop here in this post by General of Darkness) (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/hunt's-deathbed-confession-reveals-jfk-killers/msg157350/#msg157350)
(This image was the problem for me, locking up my posts, so I could not re-post the GIF image)


Also, everyone in the car flinches like a Motherf*cker, except for her. I watched a few more repititions, looking at her shoulders for any sign of pistol recoil, but I can't really see any recoil-telling body language.
But the more I watch it, the less she appears as a "concerned wife", and the more she appears as a calm, cool, collected killer.

Her hands are busy, that's for sure.

Add to that, the swearing in picture of Lyndon Johnson, with that douchebag winking at him, and Jackie looking composed only on hour after her husband had his brains blown out literally right beside her....


http://www.realityreviewed.com/Wink.jpg

Again, that link I mentioned above is a great on, IMO.

[mamboni]

After watching this loop about bunch of times, I noticed something else.

After the shot, just as she is starting to climb up onto the back of the car, it the jewess brings her left and right hand together, as if to pass something into her right hand. Right after that, sweeps her right hand across the V-neck of her sweater, and it almost looks as if she is dropping something down her shirt before she makes the climb out onto the boot of the car.

Watch it again a bunch of times. Really focus on her hands. The are extremely busy in the seconds after his head explodes.

(See the loop here in this post by General of Darkness) (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/hunt's-deathbed-confession-reveals-jfk-killers/msg157350/#msg157350)
(This image was the problem for me, locking up my posts, so I could not re-post the GIF image)


Also, everyone in the car flinches like a Motherf*cker, except for her. I watched a few more repititions, looking at her shoulders for any sign of pistol recoil, but I can't really see any recoil-telling body language.
But the more I watch it, the less she appears as a "concerned wife", and the more she appears as a calm, cool, collected killer.

Her hands are busy, that's for sure.

Add to that, the swearing in picture of Lyndon Johnson, with that douchebag winking at him, and Jackie looking composed only on hour after her husband had his brains blown out literally right beside her....


http://www.realityreviewed.com/Wink.jpg

Again, that link I mentioned above is a great on, IMO.





It's a bit gauche to quote yourself on an internet forum. Also, I think you have been misnamed: you need to wake up. ;D ;D ;D :taunt: :comp

[Awoke]

Well I just didn't feel like re-typing that post again, hence the quote.

[mamboni]

I know that it is 100% possible that Jackie did it, but I'm only about 90% that it is likely that she did it.


This is a line out of that movie Naked Gun, right? You know, when Sargeant Dreben says: "He's got a 60% chance of living, though there's only a 40% chance of that." :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

[Awoke]

Also, I think you have been misnamed: you need to wake up. ;D ;D ;D :taunt: :comp


You know Mamboni, even though I know you're good natured, and I have always respected you, I am still having a hard time not feeling slighted with that comment.

You may disagree on possibility that the jewess shot her husband, but telling me that I have to wake up is a low blow, imo.

[Desolation LineTrimmer]

The real question is, what does Eustace Mullins think?

[mamboni]

Also, I think you have been misnamed: you need to wake up. ;D ;D ;D :taunt: :comp


You know Mamboni, even though I know you're good natured, and I have always respected you, I am still having a hard time not feeling slighted with that comment.

You may disagree on possibility that the jewess shot her husband, but telling me that I have to wake up is a low blow, imo.


Sorry, no malicious intent. I just think is Jackie-did-JFK theory is so beyond the pale that I'm surprised that you are giving it any creedence. I too pride myself on keeping an open mind and listening to all alternative points of view. But at the end of the day, you have to make basic descrimination between proposals that have some merit or plausibility and others that are on the face of it utter rubbish. In fact, the OP's theory provides for absolutely no motive whatsoever - she lost everything and gained nothing.

[DMac]

Also, I think you have been misnamed: you need to wake up. ;D ;D ;D :taunt: :comp


You know Mamboni, even though I know you're good natured, and I have always respected you, I am still having a hard time not feeling slighted with that comment.

You may disagree on possibility that the jewess shot her husband, but telling me that I have to wake up is a low blow, imo.


Sorry, no malicious intent. I just think is Jackie-did-JFK theory is so beyond the pale that I'm surprised that you are giving it any creedence. I too pride myself on keeping an open mind and listening to all alternative points of view. But at the end of the day, you have to make basic descrimination between proposals that have some merit or plausibility and others that are on the face of it utter rubbish. In fact, the OP's theory provides for absolutely no motive whatsoever - she lost everything and gained nothing.


You raise a good point Mamboni, one that is the reason I am not able to buy into the "Jackie did it" hypothesis.

Where is the motive?

[RJB]

Nevermind that the evidence is sketchy. For me I find it hard to believe that a woman with no combat training or experience (Did she even know how to handle a gun?) would attempt something like this in a moving car and infront of spectators and cameras. There would have been better, more private ways for her to carry it out. I would like to see some evidence connecting her to some hardcore secretive groups. I couldn't see a fictional character like James Bond pulling this off let alone a real woman...

To me crawling onto the trunk of the car afterward the shooting is so irrational, that it appears the sort of thing a woman in such a total state of shock would do, not a coldblooded assassin. Seriously, what your accusing here of doing is almost superhuman in coldbloodedness.

[Awoke]

Well Mamboni, just because you don't believe the possibility bears no credence does not necessarily make it so.

Yesterday while playing Xbox, I had a guy telling me that 911 was not an inside job, and that the LRP is real. I told him that there is a global conspiracy, and he basically told me that theory is "beyond the pale".

Whatever. I look at her body language, the unspoken communication between her and the passenger in the front seat, the slight of hand tactics, etc, and I see a possibility.
Add to that, she's a jew, and nothing is beyond their immorality.

Therefore I believe is it possible, and likely, but I am not convinced that I "have the final answer" to this truth at this point.

[midnight rambler]

This notion is a well orchestrated disinfo campaign intended to distract attention away from the perps who are still doing the very same shiit they were doing then, only they've refined their techniques and tactics - like finding willfully ignorant rubes on the interwebs who will eagerly and enthusiastically propagate complete nonsense for them, motivated by their blind hatred.

Same as it ever was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-io-kZKl_BI

[Desolation LineTrimmer]

The Jackie Killed JFK is not even a disinformation campaign. It is just low level crankism. It is worse even than referencing Eustace Mullins as a reliable source, a guy who didn't bother to source his own wild claims, but at least Mullins was kind of smart. This Jackie killed JFK stuff is ludicrous. Sure, the PTB, that is the Rothschilds, hired Jackie Bouvier to blow off her husband's head in front of millions of people. And then none but a few "truthers" happen to notice.

[Bigjon]

Bigjon in your post #13 the video show doesn't show what Jackie did with her hands leading up to the moment when JFK's head exploded. It's misleading.

Can someone here post the video Bigjon posted in the thread about JB Hunts confession? I don't know how to do it. It's in post #70 at this link.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/hunt's-deathbed-confession-reveals-jfk-killers/40/

It shows clearly what she was doing with her hands. Her right hand is on his left arm and her left hand is holding his forearm.






I think what Jackie was doing with her hands has been obscured by leaving out some frames and inserting obstructions of the film on either side of the "big event". The background scenes move in a jerky fashion at those points in the film.


http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/jk_o_GIFSoupcom.gif


It looks like she has something in her right hand and her left hand has nothing.


You know, it is awefully early in the day to be smoking angel-dust-laced marijuana. ;D


Boy I have really hit a nerve here, even the Marrano trolls are coming out.

[Desolation LineTrimmer]

Boy I have really hit a nerve here, even the Marrano trolls are coming out.


Yeah, the Spanish Jews are poking out of their hidey holes to protect the Rothschild conspiracy that killed JFK. The Marranoes are so concerned with secrecy they hired Jackie O to shoot JFK in broad daylight. If any person here works for the SPLC as disinformation hack guess who that person is?

[Bigjon]

The Jackie Killed JFK is not even a disinformation campaign. It is just low level crankism. It is worse even than referencing Eustace Mullins as a reliable source, a guy who didn't bother to source his own wild claims, but at least Mullins was kind of smart. This Jackie killed JFK stuff is ludicrous. Sure, the PTB, that is the Rothschilds, hired Jackie Bouvier to blow off her husband's head in front of millions of people. And then none but a few "truthers" happen to notice.



You are not very accurate in your assessments are you?

First the route of the motorcade was changed at the last moment, so there were very few people, not millions of people in Dealy Plaza, But the Jew Abraham Zapruder knew where to be.

The Zapruder film didn't surface until 12 years after the "big event".

Jackie was on vacation with her sister Lee on Onassis boat for 3 months just before the "big event". Maybe she recieved some training in assassination technique, I don't know, but she sure looks strange the way she behaves. She should be diving for the floor and taking her husband with her. She shows no concern about her husband and holds him up in an exposed manner all the while looking at Connally.

[Bigjon]

http://www.911hardfacts.com/images/wtc-7.gif

OH...LOOKIE OVER THERE AT JACKIE KENNEDY!

http://www.digitalmedialawyerblog.com/605486_finger_pointing_left_with_clipping_path.jpg


I was in the front of the crowd on WT7 and most of you guys were hooting away about that too.

[mamboni]

Boy I have really hit a nerve here, even the Marrano trolls are coming out.


Yeah, the Spanish Jews are poking out of their hidey holes to protect the Rothschild conspiracy that killed JFK. The Marranoes are so concerned with secrecy they hired Jackie O to shoot JFK in broad daylight. If any person here works for the SPLC as disinformation hack guess who that person is?


Yep. The OP is beating a horse that is not only dead, but decomposing. This whole thread is just theatre of the absurd, complete with whacky theories ex vacuo, hallucinatory observations and blatant Jew baiting. Credibility of the OP has plummeted to subteranean levels not seen since Percival claimed to have only benevolent intentions towards GSUS.

[sirgonzo420]

I've heard the shooter was Lucien Sarti.


We'll probably never know for sure.


But Jackie?

Really?

[Desolation LineTrimmer]

[quote=Desolation LineTrimmer ]

Jackie was on vacation with her sister Lee on Onassis boat for 3 months just before the "big event". Maybe she recieved some training in assassination technique, I don't know, but she sure looks strange the way she behaves. She should be diving for the floor and taking her husband with her. She shows no concern about her husband and holds him up in an exposed manner all the while looking at Connally.


I can the see the video as well as you can. She is not shooting him. LOL. And who the hell knows how she is suppose to act in such a situation? LOL. Is there a standard reaction for how wives are meant to react when their husband's heads are getting blown off while attending a government motorcade? LOL!

[Bigjon]

Boy I have really hit a nerve here, even the Marrano trolls are coming out.


Yeah, the Spanish Jews are poking out of their hidey holes to protect the Rothschild conspiracy that killed JFK. The Marranoes are so concerned with secrecy they hired Jackie O to shoot JFK in broad daylight. If any person here works for the SPLC as disinformation hack guess who that person is?


Yep. The OP is beating a horse that is not only dead, but decomposing. This whole thread is just theatre of the absurd, complete with whacky theories ex vacuo, hallucinatory observations and blatant Jew baiting. Credibility of the OP has plummeted to subteranean levels not seen since Percival claimed to have only benevolent intentions towards GSUS.



Keep it up doc, you just prove my point that instead of addressing the evidence you attack the messenger with ridicule... the standard Jewish tactic.

[midnight rambler]

mamboni uses "the standard Jewish tactic". The absurdity continues unabated. What a hoot.

There's a whole lot of crazy ass speculation going on here with ZERO evidence to back up any of these far-out claims.

[Desolation LineTrimmer]

Boy I have really hit a nerve here, even the Marrano trolls are coming out.


Yeah, the Spanish Jews are poking out of their hidey holes to protect the Rothschild conspiracy that killed JFK. The Marranoes are so concerned with secrecy they hired Jackie O to shoot JFK in broad daylight. If any person here works for the SPLC as disinformation hack guess who that person is?


Yep. The OP is beating a horse that is not only dead, but decomposing. This whole thread is just theatre of the absurd, complete with whacky theories ex vacuo, hallucinatory observations and blatant Jew baiting. Credibility of the OP has plummeted to subteranean levels not seen since Percival claimed to have only benevolent intentions towards GSUS.


quoted for truth.

[Bigjon]

[quote=Desolation LineTrimmer ]

Jackie was on vacation with her sister Lee on Onassis boat for 3 months just before the "big event". Maybe she recieved some training in assassination technique, I don't know, but she sure looks strange the way she behaves. She should be diving for the floor and taking her husband with her. She shows no concern about her husband and holds him up in an exposed manner all the while looking at Connally.


I can the see the video as well as you can. She is not shooting him. LOL. And who the hell knows how she is suppose to act in such a situation? LOL. Is there a standard reaction for how wives are meant to react when their husband's heads are getting blown off while attending a government motorcade? LOL!


I see the gunsmoke and the bullet exiting through the roof of JFK's head.

The blood stained shirt tells the tale, shot behind the left ear.

http://www.realityreviewed.com/Photo_naraevid_CE394-3.jpg


Front of shirt

http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/Photos_-_NARA_Evidence_-_JFK_Clothes


Upward and forward bullet trajectory.

http://realityreviewed.com/z313%20bullet.png http://realityreviewed.com/z314%20bullet.png

[midnight rambler]

The Zapruder film VERY CLEARLY indicates that Kennedy was hit with a high energy, high velocity round. What we see is PRECISELY what one would expect to see with a high powered rifle bullet coming from the grassy knoll. There's absolutely no way in hell that a low velocity pistol round would result in what we see in the Zapruder film. Anyone who asserts otherwise hasn't a clue about pistol ballistics vs. high power rifle ballistics and is talking out their butt.

[Book]

Her body language is not typical of a wife sitting beside a husband that gets shot in the head.



This is quote-worthy.

:ROFL:

[Bigjon]

The Zapruder film VERY CLEARLY indicates that Kennedy was hit with a high energy, high velocity round. What we see is PRECISELY what one would expect to see with a high powered rifle bullet coming from the grassy knoll. There's absolutely no way in hell that a low velocity pistol round would result in what we see in the Zapruder film. Anyone who asserts otherwise hasn't a clue about pistol ballistics vs. high power rifle ballistics and is talking out their butt.


The problem is that the bullet is going up and forward, not the other way.

Entrance wounds are small and exit wounds are large.

[midnight rambler]

The Zapruder film VERY CLEARLY indicates that Kennedy was hit with a high energy, high velocity round. What we see is PRECISELY what one would expect to see with a high powered rifle bullet coming from the grassy knoll. There's absolutely no way in hell that a low velocity pistol round would result in what we see in the Zapruder film. Anyone who asserts otherwise hasn't a clue about pistol ballistics vs. high power rifle ballistics and is talking out their butt.


The problem is that the bullet is going up and forward, not the other way.


Besides fuzzy stills from 8mm movie frames, does your source also read tea leaves and chicken entrails?

[midnight rambler]

My source asserts there are for real aliens in this photo. You see them don't you?

http://www.orbit.zkm.de/files/orbit/Ufo-Cult_RaelBrigitte03.jpg

[Bigjon]

Also, I think you have been misnamed: you need to wake up. ;D ;D ;D :taunt: :comp


You know Mamboni, even though I know you're good natured, and I have always respected you, I am still having a hard time not feeling slighted with that comment.

You may disagree on possibility that the jewess shot her husband, but telling me that I have to wake up is a low blow, imo.


Sorry, no malicious intent. I just think is Jackie-did-JFK theory is so beyond the pale that I'm surprised that you are giving it any creedence. I too pride myself on keeping an open mind and listening to all alternative points of view. But at the end of the day, you have to make basic descrimination between proposals that have some merit or plausibility and others that are on the face of it utter rubbish. In fact, the OP's theory provides for absolutely no motive whatsoever - she lost everything and gained nothing.


Another Jew loser tall tale... Gosh it must have been real tough living with the richest man in the world Ari O.

[Book]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8TQUjUTsi30/SvROV0nAHiI/AAAAAAAAGj8/_Rvum9NZ9Ag/s400/hillaryalien.jpg

Bigjon should be getting paid for this thread. There is money to be made next to the checkout counter.

:)

[JDRock]

His wife, the mother of his children, pulls out a gun in front of everyone right in the limo, and shoots him in the head at an impossible angle. It's as crazy as it sounds.



Yep. Wacky.

thank you...no more replies needed.

[Santa]

How many here have super secret homeland security clearance? ???

[Bigjon]

I would guess these guys

http://www.realityreviewed.com/Frame%20342%20CIA.png

[learn2swim]

This is the classic "turd in the punch bowl" thread.

[ximmy]

Her body language is not typical of a wife sitting beside a husband that gets shot in the head.



This is quote-worthy.

:ROFL:


The moment she turns around to grab his brain off the back of the car, hoping to preserve it, proves to me she is guilty... ::)

[Bigjon]

The role of Jackie in the story of JFK's assassination is that of Esther.



A quote from rodin


Reasons for killing Kennedy in such a high profile manner

---his 'crimes' against the Jewish Mafia had to be slapped down in full global view of international Freemasonry and other crime syndicates to show who was boss

These crimes included

---resistance to Israeli military dominance (getting nukes is cited - I am still not sure nukes are what they say they are)

....The big one - public money not Jewish fiat would denude the 'terrible power of our purse'

----and now I learn
Quote:President John F Kennedy and Attorney General Robert Kennedy attempted to have the American Zionist Council, (the parent organization of AIPAC), registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act

http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=585




The story of Esther is celebrated by Jews during Purim

Two versions - Wikipedia and Eustace Mullins/Old Testament


Quote:Jewish exiles from the Kingdom of Judah who had been living in the Babylonian captivity (6th Century BCE) found themselves under Persian rule after Babylonia was in turn conquered by Cyrus the Great, King of the Persians and Medians and founder of the Persian Empire who according to the Biblical Book of Ezra released them from captivity and allowed those that wished to return to Jerusalem, giving them back the money which Nebuchadnezzar II had carried away from Jerusalem[2]. According to the Book of Esther, Haman, royal vizier to King Ahasuerus planned to kill the Jews, but his plans were foiled by Esther, his queen. Mordecai, a palace official, cousin and foster parent of Esther, subsequently replaced Haman. The Jews were delivered from being the victims of an evil decree against them and were instead allowed by the King to destroy their enemies, and the day after the battle was designated as a day of feasting and rejoicing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purim

Eustace Mullins writes


Quote:The Book of Esther records one of many such massacres of their victims by the Jews. ESTHER VIII:11: “Wherein the King granted the Jews which were in every city to gather themselves together, and to stand for their life, to destroy, to slay, and to cause to perish, all the power of the people and province that would assault them, both little ones and women, and to take the spoil of them for their prey.”

Thus a Jewish prostitute employed her power over the King to demand that he allow the Jews to massacre “both little ones and children”, not merely in one town, but throughout the Kingdom, because “the Jews which were in every city”, just as they are today. This Biblical story records the first instance of total war, in which women and children were to be slain, as opposed to the traditional military combat, in which professional soldiers, trained for this role, met on the battlefield to vie against each other, and to win or lose honorably in the field.

http://whitewraithe.wordpress.com/the-secret-holocaust/

[Desolation LineTrimmer]

A quote from rodin


Reasons for killing Kennedy in such a high profile manner

---his 'crimes' against the Jewish Mafia had to be slapped down in full global view of international Freemasonry and other crime syndicates to show who was boss

These crimes included

---resistance to Israeli military dominance (getting nukes is cited - I am still not sure nukes are what they say they are)

....The big one - public money not Jewish fiat would denude the 'terrible power of our purse'

----and now I learn
Quote:President John F Kennedy and Attorney General Robert Kennedy attempted to have the American Zionist Council, (the parent organization of AIPAC), registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act

http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=585


Everyone knows there is an embarrassment of riches when it comes to motives for JFK's assassination, but what has this to do with Jackie O's motivation? Nothing. Give it up dude. ::)

[Bigjon]

A quote from rodin


Reasons for killing Kennedy in such a high profile manner

---his 'crimes' against the Jewish Mafia had to be slapped down in full global view of international Freemasonry and other crime syndicates to show who was boss

These crimes included

---resistance to Israeli military dominance (getting nukes is cited - I am still not sure nukes are what they say they are)

....The big one - public money not Jewish fiat would denude the 'terrible power of our purse'

----and now I learn
Quote:President John F Kennedy and Attorney General Robert Kennedy attempted to have the American Zionist Council, (the parent organization of AIPAC), registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act

http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=585


Everyone knows there is an embarrassment of riches when it comes to motives for JFK's assassination, but what has this to do with Jackie O's motivation? Nothing. Give it up dude. ::)


Present some evidence that show the story to be false... I am all ears.

[midnight rambler]

You still haven't answered my question whether or not your source reads tea leaves and chicken entrails as well as stills from fuzzy 8mm film frames.

[Bullion_Bob]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/fake-mist_o_GIFSoupcom.gif



At what angle could she possibly be holding a gun in that position to get the front of his head to blow out.

None that allows the physics of bullet trajectories.


To the rear and below his left ear. You surprise me Bob... really had me fooled.


With the wrist of her left arm bent how exactly? This is folly...

[Brent]

Reasons for killing Kennedy in such a high profile manner

---his 'crimes' against the Jewish Mafia had to be slapped down in full global view of international Freemasonry and other crime syndicates to show who was boss

These crimes included

---resistance to Israeli military dominance (getting nukes is cited - I am still not sure nukes are what they say they are)

....The big one - public money not Jewish fiat would denude the 'terrible power of our purse'

----and now I learn
Quote:President John F Kennedy and Attorney General Robert Kennedy attempted to have the American Zionist Council, (the parent organization of AIPAC), registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act

http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=585

The above is all that is important. I could care less about who fired the shot.

[midnight rambler]

Bigjon: "Who are you gonna believe?? Me or your lyin' eyes??"

[Bullion_Bob]

One part I like about this joke of a "phd" is he claims the blood on his shirt is on the left side so he had to be shot from that side, not realizing JFK leaned over to the left after he was shot.

Then he goes on to say how suspicious the "zapruder" film is, but then holds the film up like as infallible evidence to prove his "theory".

Quite the "Phd" I must say.

[midnight rambler]

One part I like about this joke of a "phd" is he claims the blood on his shirt is on the left side so he had to be shot from that side, not realizing JFK leaned over to the left after he was shot.

Then he goes on to say how suspicious the "zapruder" film is, but then holds the film up like as infallible evidence to prove his "theory".

Quite the "Phd" I must say.



In this case it definitely means "piled higher and deeper".

[Bigjon]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/fake-mist_o_GIFSoupcom.gif



At what angle could she possibly be holding a gun in that position to get the front of his head to blow out.

None that allows the physics of bullet trajectories.


To the rear and below his left ear. You surprise me Bob... really had me fooled.


With the wrist of her left arm bent how exactly? This is folly...


Well nobody here knows what shape the instrument of destruction was, it might not have been a pistol. Why would you state it had anything to do with her left arm?

[midnight rambler]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/fake-mist_o_GIFSoupcom.gif



At what angle could she possibly be holding a gun in that position to get the front of his head to blow out.

None that allows the physics of bullet trajectories.


To the rear and below his left ear. You surprise me Bob... really had me fooled.


With the wrist of her left arm bent how exactly? This is folly...


Well nobody here knows what shape the instrument of destruction was, it might not have been a pistol. Why would you state it had anything to do with her left arm?


I'm thinking it was some sort of ultra compact alien technology which packs far more punch than any handgun we're aware of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTqxFIpc1j4

[mamboni]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/fake-mist_o_GIFSoupcom.gif



At what angle could she possibly be holding a gun in that position to get the front of his head to blow out.

None that allows the physics of bullet trajectories.


To the rear and below his left ear. You surprise me Bob... really had me fooled.


With the wrist of her left arm bent how exactly? This is folly...


Well nobody here knows what shape the instrument of destruction was, it might not have been a pistol. Why would you state it had anything to do with her left arm?


I'm thinking it was some sort of ultra compact alien technology which packs far more punch than any handgun we're aware of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTqxFIpc1j4


No doubt she used a phasor. Then Kirk quickly had Scotty beam it up before it could be detected by the Secret Service. Zapruder was actually Mr. Sulu in 20th century disguise, sent to 'document the event.' Jackie O was actually a Klingon female living as a cleverly disguised human female on earth. It is obvious from her saddle nose and wide-eyes that she was an alien. Kirk (Shatner) and Spock (Nimoy) were both Jews too! You see you see!! The Jews did kill JFK. And I'll bet you've never witnessed a Klingon eating pork. There you go!

Prove this wrong - I dare you.

[Bigjon]

Yes the evidence he presents and the evidence rodin presents is pretty hard to debunk, except for the standard bunkum you guy put out.

But you guys are doing a good job of shitting all over this thread.

bullsh it, and more bullsh it is all you have and your poor hurt feelings, your little darling Jackie accused of the crime.

[mamboni]

Yes the evidence he presents and the evidence rodin presents is pretty hard to debunk, except for the standard bunkum you guy put out.

But you guys are doing a good job of sh*tting all over this thread.

bullsh it, and more bullsh it is all you have and your poor hurt feelings, your little darling Jackie accused of the crime.


Our turds are but tiny specks of dreck compared to the big load of feces that you dropped on GSUS when you penned this scatological wonder of a thread.

[midnight rambler]

Indeed, there is definitely an art to pulling shiit out of your ass...er, I mean reading things that no one else sees in fuzzy stills of 8mm film frames, much like reading tea leaves or chicken entrails.

[midnight rambler]

What I find hilarious is that this entire theory is premised on a couple of fuzzy stills from a questionable 8mm film (filmed by a Jew! and held for years in secret while it could have easily been tampered with at the leisure of those 'in the loop').

Anyone who finds this load of hmmm...horse hockey palatable feel free to contact me about some smoking deals on waterfront recreational land in south Louisiana.

[Bullion_Bob]

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/fake-mist_o_GIFSoupcom.gif



At what angle could she possibly be holding a gun in that position to get the front of his head to blow out.

None that allows the physics of bullet trajectories.


To the rear and below his left ear. You surprise me Bob... really had me fooled.


With the wrist of her left arm bent how exactly? This is folly...


Well nobody here knows what shape the instrument of destruction was, it might not have been a pistol. Why would you state it had anything to do with her left arm?


Looking at the wound she was holding a shotgun apparently, but I when I zoom in I think I see her stuff a collapsible bazooka in her purse after she touches up her lipstick. Man this chick is slick! David Copperfield has nothing on her.

[learn2swim]

Yes the evidence he presents and the evidence rodin presents is pretty hard to debunk, except for the standard bunkum you guy put out.

But you guys are doing a good job of sh*tting all over this thread.

bullsh it, and more bullsh it is all you have and your poor hurt feelings, your little darling Jackie accused of the crime.


Our turds are but tiny specks of dreck compared to the big load of feces that you dropped on GSUS when you penned this scatological wonder of a thread.




This thread is the shit! :D

[Tumbleweed]

I've taken some head shots at deer with a 30-06 and if you hit a portion of their skull it will blow a chunk off similar to what happed to JFK.

James Files describes a head shot that I believe would have blown a chunk off the side of JFK's head like what is seen in the video.

At one minute into the video after Jim Garrison speaks he describes a shot that would have done in my opinion what is seen on the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTVH--eqWg4&feature=player_embedded

[Bigjon]

Like I said you guys prove you are the little old ladies club when it comes to proof. The only thing you are proving is how stupid you all are.

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/fake-mist_o_GIFSoupcom.gif

That gray cloud on the left side of JFK's head is gunsmoke.

[Bullion_Bob]

Like I said you guys prove you are the little old ladies club when it comes to proof. The only thing you are proving is how stupid you all are.

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/fake-mist_o_GIFSoupcom.gif

That gray cloud on the left side of JFK's head is gunsmoke.


I think the onus is on you to show what kind of hand held weapon can blow out the entire side of someone's head at point blank range but leave no entrance wound.

btw, the smoke is blood spray on a grainy washed out film. Try reading some eye witness testimony on what people saw that were close to it. They saw no smoke (nobody), but everyone saw lots of blood spray.

If you want a reasonable discussion get some basic level background facts first.

[Bigjon]

I've taken some head shots at deer with a 30-06 and if you hit a portion of their skull it will blow a chunk off similar to what happed to JFK.

James Files describes a head shot that I believe would have blown a chunk off the side of JFK's head like what is seen in the video.

At one minute into the video after Jim Garrison speaks he describes a shot that would have done in my opinion what is seen on the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTVH--eqWg4&feature=player_embedded


This might be all true, but the main problem is how does the gunsmoke appear right at the left side of JFK's head?

[RJB]

I think the onus is on you to show what kind of hand held weapon can blow out the entire side of someone's head at point blank range but leave no entrance wound.
She also handled the kick-back of the weapon pretty well. To make that kind of hole, you'd need a pretty heavy caliber bullet and Jackie doesn't look strong enonough to conceal the kick.

[Santa]

Looking at the wound she was holding a shotgun apparently, but I when I zoom in I think I see her stuff a collapsible bazooka in her purse after she touches up her lipstick. Man this chick is slick! David Copperfield has nothing on her.



She also handled the kick-back of the weapon pretty well. To make that kind of hole, you'd need a pretty heavy caliber bullet and Jackie doesn't look strong enonough to conceal the kick.

The obvious answer here is that Jewish women are very very clever. They never let anyone know what's in their clutch purse. :D

[midnight rambler]

but the main problem is how does the gunsmoke appear right at the left side of JFK's head?

What facts do you have to support this? (reading tea leaves, reading chicken entrails, interpreting fuzzy images from a questionable 8mm film or the like does not constitute factual evidence)

[Tumbleweed]

That little puff of "smoke" might be steam. Have you ever grabbed a cartridge case thats just been fired and ejected? they are hotter than hell and so are the bullets.

I had to put down a young doe about three weeks ago that had been hit by a car and her back was broken. I used a .380 kel-tek at close range and a head shot. It made a hole and did the job but no chunk blown off.

I also had to put a cow down a few days ago. Used a .380 ruger lcp same thing made a hole and did the job but no chunk blown off. If I'd have been using a high powed rifle there would have been and I know that from experiance.





I've taken some head shots at deer with a 30-06 and if you hit a portion of their skull it will blow a chunk off similar to what happed to JFK.

James Files describes a head shot that I believe would have blown a chunk off the side of JFK's head like what is seen in the video.

At one minute into the video after Jim Garrison speaks he describes a shot that would have done in my opinion what is seen on the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTVH--eqWg4&feature=player_embedded


This might be all true, but the main problem is how does the gunsmoke appear right at the left side of JFK's head?

[gunDriller]

to me this is a troll subject - "Jackie was a Jewess and she fired the fatal shot that killed JFK."

why not put ads on threads like this ? at least then the thread would serve a purpose, it would raise revenue for the forum.

why not, "John was picking his nose as they were going around the curve and the driver hit the brakes and John's finger went into his brain, killing him instantly". we could call it the "Pick, No Flick" theory of the JFK assassination.

[Bigjon]

That little puff of "smoke" might be steam. Have you ever grabbed a cartridge case thats just been fired and ejected? they are hotter than hell and so are the bullets.

I had to put down a young doe about three weeks ago that had been hit by a car and her back was broken. I used a .380 kel-tek at close range and a head shot. It made a hole and did the job but no chunk blown off.

I also had to put a cow down a few days ago. Used a .380 ruger lcp same thing made a hole and did the job but no chunk blown off. If I'd have been using a high powed rifle there would have been and I know that from experiance.





I've taken some head shots at deer with a 30-06 and if you hit a portion of their skull it will blow a chunk off similar to what happed to JFK.

James Files describes a head shot that I believe would have blown a chunk off the side of JFK's head like what is seen in the video.

At one minute into the video after Jim Garrison speaks he describes a shot that would have done in my opinion what is seen on the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTVH--eqWg4&feature=player_embedded


This might be all true, but the main problem is how does the gunsmoke appear right at the left side of JFK's head?




I think it has a grey color like smoke, but even if it were steam how/what caused it?

The spent bullet trail is made up of spent bullet and probably the casing behind it followed by a vapor trail.

[JDRock]

john.....john...i generally love your threads/posts, but really....KNOW your enemy! the jew is first and foremost a child of subtlety....rothschild doesnt grab headlines... :oo-->...he like his father the devil
lives by the rule of being sneaky....jackie had 1,000 ways to have him offed....a parade?? really??
the bastards had him PUBLICLY executed as you said earlier to send the message that you stated in the beginning......to this i agree, but it was done by a sniper, a jackal.....a PROFFESSIONAL......not a disgruntled wife.

[ximmy]

Like I said you guys prove you are the little old ladies club when it comes to proof. The only thing you are proving is how stupid you all are.
That gray cloud on the left side of JFK's head is gunsmoke.


http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/fake-mist_o_GIFSoupcom.gif

It's obvious she is activating the small explosive device previously planted in his brain... Good catch Bigjon... three thumbs up to you...
ximy

[Tumbleweed]

The casing stayed with the gun. Bullets get hot when they are fired. I've never seen a bullet in flight but I have seen bone and brains fly.





That little puff of "smoke" might be steam. Have you ever grabbed a cartridge case thats just been fired and ejected? they are hotter than hell and so are the bullets.

I had to put down a young doe about three weeks ago that had been hit by a car and her back was broken. I used a .380 kel-tek at close range and a head shot. It made a hole and did the job but no chunk blown off.

I also had to put a cow down a few days ago. Used a .380 ruger lcp same thing made a hole and did the job but no chunk blown off. If I'd have been using a high powed rifle there would have been and I know that from experiance.





I've taken some head shots at deer with a 30-06 and if you hit a portion of their skull it will blow a chunk off similar to what happed to JFK.

James Files describes a head shot that I believe would have blown a chunk off the side of JFK's head like what is seen in the video.

At one minute into the video after Jim Garrison speaks he describes a shot that would have done in my opinion what is seen on the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTVH--eqWg4&feature=player_embedded


This might be all true, but the main problem is how does the gunsmoke appear right at the left side of JFK's head?




I think it has a grey color like smoke, but even if it were steam how/what caused it?

The spent bullet trail is made up of spent bullet and probably the casing behind it followed by a vapor trail.

[Book]

http://dailydivadish.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/jackie-kennedy-headshot.jpg

[Bigjon]

john.....john...i generally love your threads/posts, but really....KNOW your enemy! the jew is first and foremost a child of subtlety....rothschild doesnt grab headlines... :oo-->...he like his father the devil
lives by the rule of being sneaky....jackie had 1,000 ways to have him offed....a parade?? really??
the bastards had him PUBLICLY executed as you said earlier to send the message that you stated in the beginning......to this i agree, but it was done by a sniper, a jackal.....a PROFFESSIONAL......not a disgruntled wife.



But, but, JD, They didn't do this in front of the public, they changed the route at the last moment and there were just a few stragglers and all the rest were company men. The stragglers they took care of, read the lists of all the people who died prematurely who were potential witnesses. The guy in Serpo's video knew he didn't want to stick around and headed for Alaska (I believe).

Then there is the smoke and the trajectory which puts the shot coming from within the car and rodin did vector analysis on it and proves that the bullet has a vector component that matches the speed of the car. If the shot came from outside of the car it wouldn't track with the car.

And that is evidence not bullsh it.

[Bigjon]

http://0.tqn.com/d/dc/1/0/U/T/JackieKennedy.JPG

[MNeagle]

Me thinks it's time this thread is moved to the Conspiracy section!

[Bullion_Bob]

"I know how we're going to assassinate the president"

"really? how?"

"We're going to mk47 ultra the wife, and have her do it in front of everyone in a parade, but no one will notice until decades later until the film is old, washed out, and grainy"

"Holy bagels...nice...what about the cover up?"

"We're going to plastic surgery over the entrance wound with some unknown technology so as to be absolutely perfect and 100% undetectable to autopsy, and develop a one handed miniature high powered rifle with no recoil"

"What about the trigger command"

"The driver will shout "purple unicorns" three times, and honk the horn"

"It's perfect Eli, Mazel Tov!"

[Bigjon]

"I know how we're going to assassinate the president"

"really? how?"

"We're going to mk47 ultra the wife, and have her do it in front of everyone in a parade, but no one will notice until decades later until the film is old, washed out, and grainy"

"Holy bagels...nice...what about the cover up?"

"We're going to plastic surgery over the entrance wound with some unknown technology so as to be absolutely perfect and 100% undetectable to autopsy, and develop a one handed miniature high powered rifle with no recoil"

"What about the trigger command"

"The driver will shout "purple unicorns" three times, and honk the horn"

"It's perfect Eli, Mazel Tov!"


The film didn't make it to the public until 12 years later in 1975.

I've never seen a picture of the left side of JFK's head, have you?

[Book]

http://www.beauty-and-the-bath.com/image-files/bouffant-hairstyle-jackie-kennedy.jpg

The image shown in this leaflet depict wax figures created and owned by Madame Tussauds bouffant hairstyle jackie kennedy

:oo-->

Nice try Bigjon.

[Book]

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/space-conspiracy-theory-4.jpg

[Bullion_Bob]

"I know how we're going to assassinate the president"

"really? how?"

"We're going to mk47 ultra the wife, and have her do it in front of everyone in a parade, but no one will notice until decades later until the film is old, washed out, and grainy"

"Holy bagels...nice...what about the cover up?"

"We're going to plastic surgery over the entrance wound with some unknown technology so as to be absolutely perfect and 100% undetectable to autopsy, and develop a one handed miniature high powered rifle with no recoil"

"What about the trigger command"

"The driver will shout "purple unicorns" three times, and honk the horn"

"It's perfect Eli, Mazel Tov!"


The film didn't make it to the public until 12 years later in 1975.

I've never seen a picture of the left side of JFK's head, have you?


No, no such photo exists.

http://www.manuscriptservice.com/AutopsyRoom/figure-1.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/David_Von_Pein/MISCELLANEOUS%20JFK-RELATED%20PHOTOS/JFK_Autopsy_Photo_2.jpg

Edit: When do you suppose the film was converted to digital format from the original so as to avoid degradation? Longer than 12 years for sure. Decades later.

[Book]

I think the OP is serious.



http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2609/4128883672_b32e42d007.jpg

They are everywhere.

:D

[Bullion_Bob]

In all seriousness though John Lennon shot Elvis, and...get this.... he used a peanut butter sandwich shaped like a hound dog to disguise the gun.

Deny it and you're only kidding yourself.

[Desolation LineTrimmer]

My faith in this website has been redeemed.

[Bigjon]

I think the entrance wound must be behind JFK's ear.

[Bullion_Bob]

Nopes...impossible. Her left hand is on his shoulder, that's the white you see. The other hand has no angle.

This one is thoroughly busted.

http://i55.tinypic.com/fwnhhi.gif

[Cebu_4_2]

Nopes...impossible. Her left hand is on his shoulder, that's the white you see. The other hand has no angle.

This one is thoroughly busted.

http://i55.tinypic.com/fwnhhi.gif


Insanity, you take 3 frames and determine the whole idea is a fraud... If you watch any videos that are not all jacked up by the jews and "in living color" it is obvious. As for the disclaimers of the video facts we now know who to watch for.

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.

The Jew title brought them out in droves on this one... LMAO

Forgot to add you sound like the jew show mythbusters.

[mamboni]

.............................. :oo--> :oo--> :oo-->

[Book]

you take 3 frames and determine the whole idea is a fraud...



Mamboni just posted the missing 4th FRAME only released by WikiLeaks this afternoon!

It all becomes clear now. Bigjon was right!

:o

[Bullion_Bob]

Nopes...impossible. Her left hand is on his shoulder, that's the white you see. The other hand has no angle.

This one is thoroughly busted.

http://i55.tinypic.com/fwnhhi.gif


Insanity, you take 3 frames and determine the whole idea is a fraud... If you watch any videos that are not all jacked up by the jews and "in living color" it is obvious. As for the disclaimers of the video facts we now know who to watch for.

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.

The Jew title brought them out in droves on this one... LMAO

Forgot to add you sound like the jew show mythbusters.


It's the same film, I just cut out the frames that were not necessary to prove beyond a doubt there was no gun behind his ear.

Show how it's possible to have a gun behind his left ear.

...and yes busted beyond belief, and years a go at that. There a reason she was exonerated as a suspect years ago. If you look at all the pictures and evidence collected you can clearly see her hands, and what they were doing. That's the ironic part.

Today you get some younger generations thinking they have it figured out when it was already addressed and dismissed decades ago.

The part I extracted only proves it.

This conspiracy angle is so weak it's embarrassing to be discussing it for everyone involved.

It ranks right up there with the 9/11 no planers September clues kookery.

Edit: Those are sequential frames from the zapruder film btw...no gaps. Taken from the link in the OP as well. ::)

[Desolation LineTrimmer]

This conspiracy angle is so weak it's embarrassing to be discussing it for everyone involved.




Yes, it is. Other than the fact it is now hall of fame material ;D. For a while when the thread was first launched it looked as if no one was willing to call bullshit on it. :oo-->

[Bullion_Bob]

.............................. :oo--> :oo--> :oo-->


Bang up photochop job. The gun work is tits.

[Book]

http://www.scuffletown.org/wp-content/image/%5Bani%5D%20Chuck%20Norris.gif

Chuck has no alibi that day.

:o

[vacuum]

First off, I think everyone should cool off. No need to get nasty over something that no one can definitively prove. I always try to accept all theories, simultaneously, then develop parallel possible theories. Each self-consistent theory only has a probability of being correct, even if sometimes that probability is very high.

As a younger person who hasn't specifically researched this topic and doesn't have many preconceived ideas on it, I find the evidence in this thread pretty convincing.

Essentially, I see all physical evidence pointing towards her doing it, and all motivations being against her doing it. The only potential weakness in physical evidence is the point brought up about the size of the weapon and the recoil.

Here are some points that I've noted:

Someone sniping him while he's moving in a a car, in the process of leaning his head over, seems like the opposite of a fool-proof plan. Perhaps the mafia would attempt something that far fetched because thats as close as they could get, or a lone gunman. But if we're accusing tptb, I really can't see them sniping him like that. Way too risky. They may be powerful, but they aren't fortune tellers and wouldn't gamble on such a large event. If it was the mafia or a lone gunman, then one has to ask, how did they know his change in motorcade plans?
On the other hand, a close-in, behind the ear shot, carefully choreographed and nearly fool-proof, is something I'd expect from tptb. In fact I'd go so far as to say that if he was sniped while moving, the probability tptb did it are reduced significantly.
The mist of blood creates an arrow pointing up and forward. It is very easy to see and is what I would expect from an exit wound originating from behind his ear. On the other hand, how, under any circumstances, does blood mist out like that in any direction other than the bullets original direction? I'm imagining taking a gun and shooting a water balloon. Sure, water would go in all directions, but the high velocity mist would come out the back only.
The argument for the physical impossibility here is that the weapon would recoil too much for her. I agree, this is a good argument against this theory. However, if we consider that this theory is true, then it must be obvious that the execution of it was planned for months. Just like stage magicians can do seemingly impossible things, with proper planning I believe these "slight of hand" actions can be explained. It certainly wouldn't have been a standard pistol, if what we're proposing is true. It would have been a custom-made weapon designed for this one single shot. It would have had to be guaranteed to work, and logically they wouldn't use a .22 for such a guaranteed kill. I'm not saying this is absolutely the truth, I'm simply saying it can't be ruled out.
In my mind, the only thing remaining is motive. Without knowing how the whole thing played out in the aftermath, ie, her psychological state, I'd like to say there are two possibilities. One, she was somehow placed in some type of trance or mind control technique such that she would execute the plan, then later not remember what happened and build an artificial memory of the event based off of what people told her happened. Second, and I believe this to be much more likely, based of of material I've seen posted, multiple personality disorder is possibly the norm of the controllers of this world. They are traumatized and live double lives, are internally disconnected. Their children have the same experience...this is the standard way they live. This would both explain the motive and the ability to execute it.
Finally, if it wasn't mafia or a lone gunman, and it was tptb, why would they set it up to be a sniped shot on a moving car? They could easily have set up a sniped shot from behind a podium playing golf, anything. On the other hand, if they had an inside asset and wanted to make look like he was sniped, what better place is there than a moving car that's been diverted? Is there any other possible way that a point-blank shot could be hidden in any other way? I'd like to hear some ideas, because my position is that sniping is not a sure enough thing for tptb to risk their future on.

[Bullion_Bob]

The funny thing is that TPTB drums up ridiculous nonsense theories like this example (there's another one floating around that the driver did it too), and the 9/11 pod people, and the 9/11 no planers, and the UFO'ers to de-legitimize conspiracy theories in general.

The sad part is it took me less than 2 mins of 101 level video editing to show how it is absolutely impossible for her to have been holding a gun to his head, and have shot him using the original evidence presented. Prove it to yourself. Download gif animator pro, grab the first 10 frames from the original post, save it as a gif, or just click through the first 10 frames.

She would need to have a hand attached at the end of her right elbow at some bizarre inhuman angle. Seeing as she has normal arms, and not magical rubber ones, it's safe to say there is no way for her to have physically placed a gun anywhere behind his head, or near his left ear. Her white gloved left hand is clearly visible on his left should and stays there palm down until after the bullet impact.

Personally I think it's unfortunate when you need to physically guide people's eyes for them, and explain it to them along the way instead of just saying "seeing is believing" look for yourself.

[vacuum]

The funny thing is that TPTB drums up ridiculous nonsense theories like this example (there's another one floating around that the driver did it too), and the 9/11 pod people, and the 9/11 no planers, and the UFO'ers to de-legitimize conspiracy theories in general.

The sad part is it took me less than 2 mins of 101 level video editing to show how it is absolutely impossible for her to have been holding a gun to his head, and have shot him using the original evidence presented. Prove it to yourself. Download gif animator pro, grab the first 10 frames from the original post, save it as a gif, or just click through the first 10 frames.

She would need to have a hand attached at the end of her right elbow at some bizarre inhuman angle. Seeing as she has normal arms, and not magical rubber ones, it's safe to say there is no way for her to have physically placed a gun anywhere behind his head, or near his left ear. Her white gloved left hand is clearly visible on his left should and stays there palm down until after the bullet impact.

Personally I think it's unfortunate when you need to physically guide people's eyes for them, and explain it to them along the way instead of just saying "seeing is believing" look for yourself.


One thing is for sure....IF what is being proposed is true, a standard pistol wouldn't be used. Standard pistols are designed to shoot forward, this gun is designed to shoot at a 90 or 45 deg angle. Standard pistols have to be accurate at 5 feet, and have a long enough barrel for that. This one has to be accurate for only 5 inches, and could have a barrel just slightly longer than the round itself.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_S4vBC-4dYZs/SbP-Ii8_sRI/AAAAAAAAB9w/KiqtNtYjh08/s1600/KnuckledusterZipGun-01.jpg

http://www.instructables.com/files/deriv/FD0/19R9/F82EZI1L/FD019R9F82EZI1L.MEDIUM.jpg

[mamboni]

JFK was assassinated by a group of conspirators that included members of the highest levels of government. The Warren Commission was a whitewash coverup and a national disgrace: the pristine bullet proves it beyond any doubt. Many others were involved:

1. The motorcade route was chosen at the last minute and in a perfect location for a sniper's bullet: few trees, many unoccupied tall buidings with windows flanking the route, few spectators.

2. The President's Secret Service detail was pulled away from the president's car at the start of the procession - why?

3. The President's car maintained a slow and constant speed until just before the fatal head shot, when the car came to a virtual rolling stop - incredible.

4. JFK's autopsy was a total botch job, performed by a non-pathologsit non-forensic medical doctor. This fact alone is astounding. The post-mortem of a hobo off the street would get more consideration that an assassinated US president. Trajectories of bullet tracks in the body weren't even measured, incredibly. These would have pinpointed the likely locatiosn of the shooters. The incompetent physician dissector actually incised the bullet wound in JFK's neck and thus carelessly destroyed important evidence.


JFK was killed by several professional snipers, likely working for the mob. The Secret Service or select members of had to be involved in the planning and execution. The Warren Commission was installed to cleanse and control the entire investigation which was a complete sham.


This 'Jackie O as Assassin' theory is total poppycock nonesence and only distracts us from finding the true killers of JFK.

[Libertarian_Guard]

JFK was assassinated by a group of conspirators that included members of the highest levels of government. The Warren Commission was a whitewash coverup and a national disgrace: the pristine bullet proves it beyond any doubt. Many others were involved:

1. The motorcade route was chosen at the last minute and in a perfect location for a sniper's bullet: few trees, many unoccupied tall buidings with windows flanking the route, few spectators.

2. The President's Secret Service detail was pulled away from the president's car at the start of the procession - why?

3. The President's car maintained a slow and constant speed until just before the fatal head shot, when the car came to a virtual rolling stop - incredible.

4. JFK's autopsy was a total botch job, performed by a non-pathologsit non-forensic medical doctor. This fact alone is astounding. The post-mortem of a hobo off the street would get more consideration that an assassinated US president. Trajectories of bullet tracks in the body weren't even measured, incredibly. These would have pinpointed the likely locatiosn of the shooters. The incompetent physician dissector actually incised the bullet wound in JFK's neck and thus carelessly destroyed important evidence.


JFK was killed by several professional snipers, likely working for the mob. The Secret Service or select members of had to be involved in the planning and execution. The Warren Commission was installed to cleanse and control the entire investigation which was a complete sham.


This 'Jackie O as Assassin' theory is total poppycock nonesence and only distracts us from finding the true killers of JFK.





Let’s not forget about JFK’s brain which was removed during the autopsy. It was not buried with the corpse, and it may have provided evidence of the bullets path.

Poof, no more evidence, the brain quickly disappeared (or went unaccounted for) in a military hospital.

[sirgonzo420]

JFK was assassinated by a group of conspirators that included members of the highest levels of government. The Warren Commission was a whitewash coverup and a national disgrace: the pristine bullet proves it beyond any doubt. Many others were involved:

1. The motorcade route was chosen at the last minute and in a perfect location for a sniper's bullet: few trees, many unoccupied tall buidings with windows flanking the route, few spectators.

2. The President's Secret Service detail was pulled away from the president's car at the start of the procession - why?

3. The President's car maintained a slow and constant speed until just before the fatal head shot, when the car came to a virtual rolling stop - incredible.

4. JFK's autopsy was a total botch job, performed by a non-pathologsit non-forensic medical doctor. This fact alone is astounding. The post-mortem of a hobo off the street would get more consideration that an assassinated US president. Trajectories of bullet tracks in the body weren't even measured, incredibly. These would have pinpointed the likely locatiosn of the shooters. The incompetent physician dissector actually incised the bullet wound in JFK's neck and thus carelessly destroyed important evidence.


JFK was killed by several professional snipers, likely working for the mob. The Secret Service or select members of had to be involved in the planning and execution. The Warren Commission was installed to cleanse and control the entire investigation which was a complete sham.


This 'Jackie O as Assassin' theory is total poppycock nonesence and only distracts us from finding the true killers of JFK.





Let’s not forget about JFK’s brain which was removed during the autopsy. It was not buried with the corpse, and it may have provided evidence of the bullets path.

Poof, no more evidence, the brain quickly disappeared (or went unaccounted for) in a military hospital.




They lost his mind!

[Desolation LineTrimmer]

I always try to accept all theories, simultaneously, then develop parallel possible theories. Each self-consistent theory only has a probability of being correct, even if sometimes that probability is very high.



Good lord, man. ::) ;D It is like you lack critical functions. Be sure not to ever go on a jury.

[vacuum]

I always try to accept all theories, simultaneously, then develop parallel possible theories. Each self-consistent theory only has a probability of being correct, even if sometimes that probability is very high.



Good lord, man. ::) ;D It is like you lack critical functions. Be sure not to ever go on a jury.


No...my critical thinking skills are fine. This methodology is very deliberate as well, and it has taken much thought to arrive here. The deduction and induction that people typically use in their "critical thinking" is fundamentally flawed because, first, we can't know the first principle (look at a religious forum sometime), and second, because our small binary brains are easily tricked.

Abductive reasoning, while not perfect and absolute, at least has a chance of giving you some type of direction in a hazy world where nothing is known for sure. Thats why I use it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abduction_%28logic%29

Look at some of its applications:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abduction_%28logic%29#Applications

[Book]

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First off, I think everyone should cool off. No need to get nasty over something that no one can definitively prove. I always try to accept all theories, simultaneously, then develop parallel possible theories. Each self-consistent theory only has a probability of being correct, even if sometimes that probability is very high.

TRANSLATION: I'm rational and whoever disagrees with me is emotional, close-minded, nasty and illogical.

As a younger person who hasn't specifically researched this topic and doesn't have many preconceived ideas on it, I find the evidence in this thread pretty convincing.

TRANSLATION: I'm a kid, don't know the facts, but am "convinced" by this so-called "evidence".

Essentially, I see all physical evidence pointing towards her doing it, and all motivations being against her doing it. The only potential weakness in physical evidence is the point brought up about the size of the weapon and the recoil.

TRANSLATION: I watched a short edited video in this thread and hereby declare it "all physical evidence".

Here are some points that I've noted:

TRANSLATION: Here is me talking out of my ass using fancy "Abductive Reasoning" I found on the WikiPedia webpage:

blah...blah...blah...Jackie Kennedy shot JFK...blah...blah...blah



:)

[Bigjon]

I always try to accept all theories, simultaneously, then develop parallel possible theories. Each self-consistent theory only has a probability of being correct, even if sometimes that probability is very high.



Good lord, man. ::) ;D It is like you lack critical functions. Be sure not to ever go on a jury.






It is called having an open mind and not some preconceived notion of how the world works and always obeys your prejudice.

[Bigjon]

http://www.mikesquarter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/laptop-kid.png



First off, I think everyone should cool off. No need to get nasty over something that no one can definitively prove. I always try to accept all theories, simultaneously, then develop parallel possible theories. Each self-consistent theory only has a probability of being correct, even if sometimes that probability is very high.

TRANSLATION: I'm rational and whoever disagrees with me is emotional, close-minded, nasty and illogical.

As a younger person who hasn't specifically researched this topic and doesn't have many preconceived ideas on it, I find the evidence in this thread pretty convincing.

TRANSLATION: I'm a kid, don't know the facts, but am "convinced" by this so-called "evidence".

Essentially, I see all physical evidence pointing towards her doing it, and all motivations being against her doing it. The only potential weakness in physical evidence is the point brought up about the size of the weapon and the recoil.

TRANSLATION: I watched a short edited video in this thread and hereby declare it "all physical evidence".

Here are some points that I've noted:

TRANSLATION: Here is me talking out of my ass using fancy "Abductive Reasoning" I found on the WikiPedia webpage:

blah...blah...blah...Jackie Kennedy shot JFK...blah...blah...blah



:)


Well anyone who cares to go through all the crap that you, bb, dlt, mam, etc wrote one would certainly come away with a perception that it is you guys who lack objectivity and react in an emotional and exceedingly nasty manner. Facts are not considered by you. Kill the messenger is your only message.

I remain unconvinced about Jackie O who left her husband for 3 months to train for the big event and then married the worlds richest man Ari Onassis.

[gunDriller]

during my time with the CIA, whenever i planned a presidential assassination, i always directed my crew to recruit the president's wife to shoot the president in front of the entire world ... especially when i was planning to blame it on a failed Marine sharp-shooter holed up in the nearby Texas schoolbook depository.

of course, i was 6 at the time of the JFK assasination, so i have a perfect alibi ... i was in a classroom in Connecticut saying the Pledge of Allegiance. that's why the CIA recruited me with mind-altering lollypops at the dentist's office when i was 4 - they wanted the team leader to have plausible denial.

as far as Oswald and Officer Tippett - sorry, they had to go. they knew Jackie used to baby-sit me. that's when i recruited her.


on a more serious note -

http://www.amazon.com/Final-Judgment-Missing-Assassination-Conspiracy/dp/0974548405

/\ Piper's book that factually illustrates Israel's ties to the assassination team - along with their motivation.


http://www.amazon.com/Trail-Assassins-Jim-Garrison/dp/0446362778

/\ Garrison's book, written from the perspective of New Orleans District Attorney. he doesn't get far into investigating Clay Shaw's links to Israel via Permindex (Shaw's company), but Garrison did a very good job of getting to know the locals that were involved (Oswald, Ferrie, Shaw).


http://www.amazon.com/Plausible-Denial-Was-Involved-Assassination/dp/1560250488

/\ Mark Lane's book on the attempted defamation lawsuit filed by Hunt. Hunt filed a lawsuit against the Liberty Lobby, who published an article alleging that Hunt was involved in the assassination. Hunt's claim to be with his family on Nov. 22, 1963, driving around Wash. DC looking for Chinese food ... fell apart when he also testified that his family was angry at him because they didn't know where he was on Nov. 22, 1963.

[Bigjon]

Link (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Israeli-Rabbis-Allow-Spies-To-Have-Sex-With-Enemy-Agents-During-Anti-Terror-Missions/Article/201010115753311?lpos=World_News_Third_Home_Page_Ar ticle_Teaser_Region__7)

'Sleeping With Enemy Is Kosher' For Spies


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2:56pm UK, Wednesday October 06, 2010

Dominic Waghorn, Middle East correspondent
Rabbis in Israel say it is kosher for female spies to have sex with enemy agents in missions against terrorism.



Reports say 'honey trap' agents were involved in a Hamas commander's assassination


In a rabbinical study entitled 'Forbidden Sex for the Sake of National Security', the practice of sleeping with the enemy is given approval.

The study by the Tzomet Institute, a respected institution dedicated to interpreting and decreeing Jewish law in modern life, describes seduction as "an efficient weapon".

It draws on scriptural evidence that the technique can be used in rare circumstances.

It lists previous Jewish seductresses, such as Yael the wife of Hever, who the Bible says lured Sisra, the enemy chief of staff, into her tent.

There she lulled him to sleep before driving a tent peg through his temples.

The study suggests in some circumstances it is even a mitzvah, or good deed, to have sex with a gentile.

More recently, Mossad agent 'Cindy' was dispatched to Britain to seduce the Israeli nuclear whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu.

Cindy, later named as Cheryl Bentov, masqueraded as a tourist and persuaded Mr Vanunu to fly to Rome for a holiday.

There he was drugged, abducted by Mossad agents and smuggled to Israel.

The use of 'honey-trap' Mata Hari agents by western intelligence agencies is well documented.

According to some unconfirmed reports, it was used during the assassination of Hamas commander Mahmoud al Mabhouh in Dubai this year.

The study says priority should be given to choosing an unmarried agent for such a mission.

Should it be necessary to dispatch a married agent on such a mission, it recommends her husband divorcing her first on the understanding he would be entitled to remarry her afterwards.

[mrnhtbr2232]

For Christ's sake the guy's dead already. It doesn't matter if he was nuked by the CIA, the mob, his old lady, or anyone else. The realignment of power that resulted from his assassination has since morphed well beyond its original field of view. Kennedy's world is now part of a larger tapestry - it happened, it was tragic, I liked the guy, but he's dead. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass how he got there any more. Pick your furniture carefully - the attic is filling up.

[Bigjon]

For Christ's sake the guy's dead already. It doesn't matter if he was nuked by the CIA, the mob, his old lady, or anyone else. The realignment of power that resulted from his assassination has since morphed well beyond its original field of view. Kennedy's world is now part of a larger tapestry - it happened, it was tragic, I liked the guy, but he's dead. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass how he got there any more. Pick your furniture carefully - the attic is filling up.


Well I would agree with you if everyone knew who is/was responsible for the deed and understood their motives and procedures.

The fact is that very few understand the role of world wide Jewry in modern politics and secret societies.

[midnight rambler]

For Christ's sake the guy's dead already. It doesn't matter if he was nuked by the CIA, the mob, his old lady, or anyone else. The realignment of power that resulted from his assassination has since morphed well beyond its original field of view. Kennedy's world is now part of a larger tapestry - it happened, it was tragic, I liked the guy, but he's dead. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass how he got there any more. Pick your furniture carefully - the attic is filling up.


Well I would agree with you if everyone knew who is/was responsible for the deed and understood their motives and procedures.

The fact is that very few understand the role of world wide Jewry in modern politics and secret societies.


The entire theme of this thread of yours is fukking rounding up fleas and letting the elephants get out of the pen. And there isn't even ONE single piece of evidence which backs up this wacky theory of yours, it is ALL pure speculation.

[Bullion_Bob]

http://www.mikesquarter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/laptop-kid.png



First off, I think everyone should cool off. No need to get nasty over something that no one can definitively prove. I always try to accept all theories, simultaneously, then develop parallel possible theories. Each self-consistent theory only has a probability of being correct, even if sometimes that probability is very high.

TRANSLATION: I'm rational and whoever disagrees with me is emotional, close-minded, nasty and illogical.

As a younger person who hasn't specifically researched this topic and doesn't have many preconceived ideas on it, I find the evidence in this thread pretty convincing.

TRANSLATION: I'm a kid, don't know the facts, but am "convinced" by this so-called "evidence".

Essentially, I see all physical evidence pointing towards her doing it, and all motivations being against her doing it. The only potential weakness in physical evidence is the point brought up about the size of the weapon and the recoil.

TRANSLATION: I watched a short edited video in this thread and hereby declare it "all physical evidence".

Here are some points that I've noted:

TRANSLATION: Here is me talking out of my ass using fancy "Abductive Reasoning" I found on the WikiPedia webpage:

blah...blah...blah...Jackie Kennedy shot JFK...blah...blah...blah



:)


Well anyone who cares to go through all the crap that you, bb, dlt, mam, etc wrote one would certainly come away with a perception that it is you guys who lack objectivity and react in an emotional and exceedingly nasty manner. Facts are not considered by you. Kill the messenger is your only message.

I remain unconvinced about Jackie O who left her husband for 3 months to train for the big event and then married the worlds richest man Ari Onassis.


You got conned by some cockamamie phd hack on the internet trying to spread disinformation, and you're still afflicted by it. This whole utterly ridiculous story belongs on the onion.

[Book]

The fact is that very few understand the role of world wide Jewry in modern politics and secret societies.



http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19382.0;attach=554 1;image

They are too busy being distracted by wacky threads like this.

:oo-->

[Bigjon]

The fact is that very few understand the role of world wide Jewry in modern politics and secret societies.



http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19382.0;attach=554 1;image

They are too busy being distracted by wacky threads like this.

:oo-->


You guys crack me up, appeals to emotion is your realm of expertise, lots of bs and no substance.

[Bigjon]

For Christ's sake the guy's dead already. It doesn't matter if he was nuked by the CIA, the mob, his old lady, or anyone else. The realignment of power that resulted from his assassination has since morphed well beyond its original field of view. Kennedy's world is now part of a larger tapestry - it happened, it was tragic, I liked the guy, but he's dead. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass how he got there any more. Pick your furniture carefully - the attic is filling up.


Well I would agree with you if everyone knew who is/was responsible for the deed and understood their motives and procedures.

The fact is that very few understand the role of world wide Jewry in modern politics and secret societies.


The entire theme of this thread of yours is fukking rounding up fleas and letting the elephants get out of the pen. And there isn't even ONE single piece of evidence which backs up this wacky theory of yours, it is ALL pure speculation.


Smoking guns are so inconvenient, bullets caught on film are oh so inconvenient... the only one engaging in pure speculation here is you.

[Book]

...lots of bs and no substance.



http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19388.0;attach=556 3;image

I can't wait for Mamboni's image to appear on the cover of your club magazine.

:D

[Book]

...the only one engaging in pure speculation here is you.



:oo-->

[Bullion_Bob]

lots of bs and no substance.



Agreed. Looking at the evidence presented, this is the primary theme of this thread.

Jackie O the rubber armed mkultra demon joo fem bot.

The moon hoax has more credibility.

[midnight rambler]

For Christ's sake the guy's dead already. It doesn't matter if he was nuked by the CIA, the mob, his old lady, or anyone else. The realignment of power that resulted from his assassination has since morphed well beyond its original field of view. Kennedy's world is now part of a larger tapestry - it happened, it was tragic, I liked the guy, but he's dead. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass how he got there any more. Pick your furniture carefully - the attic is filling up.


Well I would agree with you if everyone knew who is/was responsible for the deed and understood their motives and procedures.

The fact is that very few understand the role of world wide Jewry in modern politics and secret societies.


The entire theme of this thread of yours is fukking rounding up fleas and letting the elephants get out of the pen. And there isn't even ONE single piece of evidence which backs up this wacky theory of yours, it is ALL pure speculation.


Smoking guns are so inconvenient, bullets caught on film are oh so inconvenient... the only one engaging in pure speculation here is you.


Someone would have to be a hardcore crackhead to accept either conclusion based upon a complete lack of ANY evidence to support such speculation.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQntPmAs_yBjP8maMaqsDeeKXGyb6wY2 aJNwt4PUqkje2QH_SBT

[Book]

:oo-->

[midnight rambler]

What I'd like to see is someone scientifically prove that an 8mm camera filming at 18.3 frames/second can capture images of bullets in flight. lol That would be so fascinating!

Oh! And I would even accept the use of a strobe in doing so! lol

[RJB]

Well one good thing has happened on this thread. Midnight Rambler and Book have set aside past differences and come together on a common belief. Isn't life grand?

[midnight rambler]

Should be a poll on this one...


Opinions are not evidence.


QFT

WTH don't you get it?? :conf:

[Desolation LineTrimmer]

Vacuum: I always try to accept all theories, simultaneously, ..

This is signature worthy. Would those of us with a some age under our belts be acting right toward our younger brothers if statements like the above were not laughed at a bit? No one knows you here, but when you go out in the real world and make such statements, well ... :)

It is the same thing generally with the subject of the thread. Hopefully you guys aren't running around your communities claiming Jackie Shot JFK, and then calling people who laugh at you "bigots". ;D. Real world reputation is important.

[vacuum]

http://www.mikesquarter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/laptop-kid.png



First off, I think everyone should cool off. No need to get nasty over something that no one can definitively prove. I always try to accept all theories, simultaneously, then develop parallel possible theories. Each self-consistent theory only has a probability of being correct, even if sometimes that probability is very high.

TRANSLATION: I'm rational and whoever disagrees with me is emotional, close-minded, nasty and illogical.

As a younger person who hasn't specifically researched this topic and doesn't have many preconceived ideas on it, I find the evidence in this thread pretty convincing.

TRANSLATION: I'm a kid, don't know the facts, but am "convinced" by this so-called "evidence".

Essentially, I see all physical evidence pointing towards her doing it, and all motivations being against her doing it. The only potential weakness in physical evidence is the point brought up about the size of the weapon and the recoil.

TRANSLATION: I watched a short edited video in this thread and hereby declare it "all physical evidence".

Here are some points that I've noted:

TRANSLATION: Here is me talking out of my ass using fancy "Abductive Reasoning" I found on the WikiPedia webpage:

blah...blah...blah...Jackie Kennedy shot JFK...blah...blah...blah



:)

Everyone of my three posts in this thread so far has been relevant to the discussion. I'll keep reading this thread to see if anyone else makes any interesting points, but I've said all I wanted to say :) I'll also keep building out different possibilities as new information becomes available :) I even count your posts as well book in my evaluations :) Accepting all theories means also accepting all criticisms and assigning percentages to them being true.

[Neuro]

What is a bit disappointing in this thread is that people I thought were open minded, don't seem to even want to entertain the idea that Jackie O could have shot the president...

[Serpo]

Correct and it seems to be a passionate subject and lets face it Jackie was a part of a lot of peoples lives at one time.
Very difficult to get the wife in on LBJ plan one would think.
FBI,CIA the all killed him,using a triangle of shooters.Some may of been decoys to the real thing.
Oswald....there is a photo of the guy in the background on the ground floor watching the parade......gotta feel for that guy....

[Bullion_Bob]

What is a bit disappointing in this thread is that people I thought were open minded, don't seem to even want to entertain the idea that Jackie O could have shot the president...


I entertained the possibility up until I decided to look at the evidence frame by frame, and soon realized, given the human anatomy, and bullet trajectories, it is impossible. One hand is palm down on the shoulder, and the other is down by his elbow nowhere near his head at the time his head explodes. This is what I thought I originally saw until I proved it to myself.

There's really not much to consider after this realization.

[Cebu_4_2]

What is a bit disappointing in this thread is that people I thought were open minded, don't seem to even want to entertain the idea that Jackie O could have shot the president...


I entertained the possibility up until I decided to look at the evidence frame by frame, and soon realized, given the human anatomy, and bullet trajectories, it is impossible. One hand is palm down on the shoulder, and the other is down by his elbow nowhere near his head at the time his head explodes. This is what I thought I originally saw until I proved it to myself.

There's really not much to consider after this realization.


Still don't see that, might be mattering on what video you watch. It is hard to believe Jackie did it but all in all even slowing the limo down for the shot it was in motion. Even a sharpshooter would have challenges not to hit Jackie. There were 2 extra shots, one to Kennedy and one to ummm the dude in front of him prior to the money shot.

Having a video on a street that the limo wasn't supposed to turn down is kinda funky, and the money shot basically being behind a sign makes things more interesting I think. Why were there grassy knoll shooters placed on the wrong route for the parade?

Stinks of elitest propaganda to the fullest. YES I still think Jackie did the money shot. You can see her dumping something between the seat in the rear, those Lincolns had a panel that you could stash shit in back there.

[Neuro]

What is a bit disappointing in this thread is that people I thought were open minded, don't seem to even want to entertain the idea that Jackie O could have shot the president...


I entertained the possibility up until I decided to look at the evidence frame by frame, and soon realized, given the human anatomy, and bullet trajectories, it is impossible. One hand is palm down on the shoulder, and the other is down by his elbow nowhere near his head at the time his head explodes. This is what I thought I originally saw until I proved it to myself.

There's really not much to consider after this realization.
I disagree with the 'impossible' elbow angle, seat yourself like John F and Jackie, like they do when the head explodes, take a gun in your right hand and put it under 'John F's' ear pointing it upwards through the right frontal bone of the skull, and you will get pretty close to the angle on the film, certainly it would be easier to start with Jackie's elbow down, but it is not impossible to do it with the elbow up.

Another objection was that it is impossible to see bullet traces on 8 mm film... Any sources for that? Would be strange though if the two 'artifact' bullet traces, both point back to JFK's head, no? If it is not a bullet trace, the most likely reason for this would be if the trace is painted on the frames...

[Bullion_Bob]

What is a bit disappointing in this thread is that people I thought were open minded, don't seem to even want to entertain the idea that Jackie O could have shot the president...


I entertained the possibility up until I decided to look at the evidence frame by frame, and soon realized, given the human anatomy, and bullet trajectories, it is impossible. One hand is palm down on the shoulder, and the other is down by his elbow nowhere near his head at the time his head explodes. This is what I thought I originally saw until I proved it to myself.

There's really not much to consider after this realization.


Still don't see that, might be mattering on what video you watch. It is hard to believe Jackie did it but all in all even slowing the limo down for the shot it was in motion. Even a sharpshooter would have challenges not to hit Jackie. There were 2 extra shots, one to Kennedy and one to ummm the dude in front of him prior to the money shot.

Having a video on a street that the limo wasn't supposed to turn down is kinda funky, and the money shot basically being behind a sign makes things more interesting I think. Why were there grassy knoll shooters placed on the wrong route for the parade?

Stinks of elitest propaganda to the fullest. YES I still think Jackie did the money shot. You can see her dumping something between the seat in the rear, those Lincolns had a panel that you could stash sh*t in back there.




It's pretty obvious. Her right arm is completely ruled out altogether no matter which video.

Her left hand is on his shoulder. Imagine someone is sitting beside you, try mimicking her arm torso wrist positions to make a head shot behind the ear. It's not possible.

Don't let the video do the thinking for you.

edit: here it is again at reduced speed

http://i55.tinypic.com/fwnhhi.gif

and the other video at reduced speed:

http://i55.tinypic.com/n5h2ex.gif

Notice her hand positions. How is there a gun behind his ear pointing from the back of his head towards the front?

[vacuum]

Ok, I have a few more interesting observations:


The camera man is positioned such that he is facing the road at a 90 degree angle when it happens. He is in the perfect location.
The people in the car duck immediately after it happens. If the gunman was far away, the gunshot would also be far away. They would only hear a sound equivalent to probably snapping a bone. However if the gunshot goes off 2 feet behind them, they reach much more.
Her right hand seems to be pushing down on his shoulder, while her left hand makes the shot. Obviously, she couldn't use one hand because he could lean away when he felt the metal against his skin. If her right hand was pushing his shoulder down and therefore his body towards her, he would be much more stable.
It is very interesting that right as the shot happens, the camera does not show her left arm very well. However, you can clearly see her left arm recoil when she makes the shot. It jerks downwards.
It almost looks like she discards of the weapon in his jacket.

Bye the way, the supposed bullet caught on camera was only going 100 fps as mentioned in the article. Its not like a full speed bullet was caught on camera, just a bullet thats been slowed down as mentioned in the article.
http://realityreviewed.com/Headshot.gif

[vacuum]

Her left hand recoiling:

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/fake-mist_o_GIFSoupcom.gif

Human reaction time is only 100 ms, then you have to add the reaction time for moving an entire arm. I'd like to see how fast that white glove on his shoulder reacts after the shot. At 16 fps each frame is 60 ms.

Also note that in the gif in my previous post, her hand moves from his shouldn't to his elbow before anyone else reacts reacts. Its very fast.

[Bullion_Bob]

It doesn't get more obvious than this...

http://i51.tinypic.com/k2gw2o.jpg

[Bullion_Bob]

Her left hand recoiling:

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/fake-mist_o_GIFSoupcom.gif

Human reaction time is only 100 ms, then you have to add the reaction time for moving an entire arm. I'd like to see how fast that white glove on his shoulder reacts after the shot. At 16 fps each frame is 60 ms.

Also note that in the gif in my previous post, her hand moves from his shouldn't to his elbow before anyone else reacts reacts. Its very fast.


You're getting way too far ahead of yourself. There is no angle for the shot in the first place.

[Bigjon]

It doesn't get more obvious than this...

http://i51.tinypic.com/k2gw2o.jpg


I believe the hand that you see is JFK's.

[Neuro]

It doesn't get more obvious than this...

http://i51.tinypic.com/k2gw2o.jpg
Get her right hand up about 15 degrees, and the bullet trajectory 45 degrees, fully flexed elbow because she sits very close, and she can put the gun under his left ear...

[Bullion_Bob]

It doesn't get more obvious than this...

http://i51.tinypic.com/k2gw2o.jpg
Get her right hand up about 15 degrees, and the bullet trajectory 45 degrees, fully flexed elbow because she sits very close, and she can put the gun under his left ear...


Up 15 degrees when?!? This is frame 312.

[gunDriller]

For Christ's sake the guy's dead already. It doesn't matter if he was nuked by the CIA, the mob, his old lady, or anyone else.


it matters a lot, if the people that killed him are still in power - which they are. they're just a lot older and have a new crew of even less principled underlings working for them.

[RJB]

I still don't buy it. Jackie doesn't seem to be affected by any recoil from such a weapon, but I will concede that Jackie and John are making enough of a commotion to get the driver to look behind at them just prior to the the president's head exploding. I would like to know what exactly they were doing just before the shot.

[Neuro]

It doesn't get more obvious than this...

http://i51.tinypic.com/k2gw2o.jpg
Get her right hand up about 15 degrees, and the bullet trajectory 45 degrees, fully flexed elbow because she sits very close, and she can put the gun under his left ear...


Up 15 degrees when?!? This is frame 312.
I am just pointing out that her arm should be 15 degrees higher than you draw it...

[7th trump]

I still don't buy it. Jackie doesn't seem to be affected by any recoil from such a weapon, but I will concede that Jackie and John are making enough of a commotion to get the driver to look behind at them just prior to the the president's head exploding. I would like to know what exactly they were doing just before the shot.

What you are seeing Jackie do is coming to the aid of John who's already been shot in the upper chest that Jackie has no idea hes been shot.
John is reacting to the surprise bullet wound. Most likely starting to caugh up blood or having a hard time suddenly to breath and pain setting in!
This is much like when Reagan was shot. Reagan didnt know he was shot until he felt the warm blood drip down his chest in the limo 3 or so seconds after being shot.
At first its uncomfortable and you dont know whats going on except the body knows and alerts you that something is wrong. This is what you are seeing John do. Hes leaning forward knowing somethiong is wrong and Jackie notices and comes to his aid. And wham!........another bullet takes out part of his brain moments later. This startles Jackie, as it should anyboody, who naturally reacts by trying to jump out of the limo to safety.

None of you guys have been around livestock being slaughtered have you?
Everything reacts the same way.......we are all biological.

This thread is ridicules from seeing some of the comments and conspiracy mumbo jumbo................

[7th trump]

It doesn't get more obvious than this...

http://i51.tinypic.com/k2gw2o.jpg
Get her right hand up about 15 degrees, and the bullet trajectory 45 degrees, fully flexed elbow because she sits very close, and she can put the gun under his left ear...


Up 15 degrees when?!? This is frame 312.
I am just pointing out that her arm should be 15 degrees higher than you draw it...

Honestly it looks like Jackie is trying to find out what is causing John to lean forward in distress.
Looks as though she is genuinely concerned for her husband.

Yeah sure she gonna pull out a gun and fire a shot in public with camera's rolling and flashing from all angels, in an open limo for all to see while going to a signing of a very important banking document that would change money policy here in America.
Dude stop smoking what ever it is you are smoking...................or atleast stop and think on your own without drinking someone elses the kool-ade.

if you are gonna smoke atleast smoke some "common sens"e every know and then.

[Bullion_Bob]

It doesn't get more obvious than this...

http://i51.tinypic.com/k2gw2o.jpg
Get her right hand up about 15 degrees, and the bullet trajectory 45 degrees, fully flexed elbow because she sits very close, and she can put the gun under his left ear...


Up 15 degrees when?!? This is frame 312.
I am just pointing out that her arm should be 15 degrees higher than you draw it...


How??? Follow the line from the bottom of her her elbow.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2qtxyf8.jpg

What you're saying is that her arm is going right through his shoulder at 15 degrees higher.

Her arm can only go above or below his shoulder.

This is why I'm saying she does not have rubber arms. Her hand is down by his rib cage, going underneath his shoulder.

It's an impossible shot.

I'm amazed you still can't see it. It's as plain as day.

You guys must be having serious issues figuring out scale as well.

[Bigjon]

That is JFK's hand in the pic, not Jackies, you can see his coat sleeve just before the hand.

And you have drawn in the worst case of where her right arm would be, it should be 15 degrees higher.

And you are doing a good job of ignoring the gunsmoke and bullet trajectory which are the real damning parts as far as who the shooter is.

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/fake-mist_o_GIFSoupcom.gif

[Bullion_Bob]

That is JFK's hand in the pic, not Jackies, you can see his coat sleeve just before the hand.

And you have drawn in the worst case of where her right arm would be, it should be 15 degrees higher.

And you are doing a good job of ignoring the gunsmoke and bullet trajectory which are the real damning parts as far as who the shooter is.




Her left hand cannot be behind his ear. Left hand ruled out. Her right arm cannot go through his shoulder at 15 degrees higher. Right hand ruled out.

What you think is smoke on a decades old grainy film, and what you think the bullet trajectory should be are pointless when the shooter cannot be physically placing a gun behind his left ear.

[Bigjon]

http://www.makeagif.com/media/1-04-2011/CzmZc8.gif

[Bullion_Bob]

Ok. So her hands aren't in the position to have even made the shot, but you think you see something that possibly looks like smoke on some grainy dated film, so she shot him. Not to mention there is a smoky grey haze happening all over the green grass area above.

Pretty exceptional logic.

[Bigjon]

Ok. So her hands aren't in the position to have even made the shot, but you think you see something that possibly looks like smoke on some grainy dated film, so she shot him. Not to mention there is a smoky grey haze happening all over the green grass area above.

Pretty exceptional logic.


I'm surprised you aren't claiming that you can't identify JFK or Jackie...

[Bullion_Bob]

Ok. So her hands aren't in the position to have even made the shot, but you think you see something that possibly looks like smoke on some grainy dated film, so she shot him. Not to mention there is a smoky grey haze happening all over the green grass area above.

Pretty exceptional logic.


I'm surprised you aren't claiming that you can't identify JFK or Jackie...


And your "evidence" claims get more ridiculous and far fetched as time goes on.

[Neuro]

It doesn't get more obvious than this...

http://i51.tinypic.com/k2gw2o.jpg
Get her right hand up about 15 degrees, and the bullet trajectory 45 degrees, fully flexed elbow because she sits very close, and she can put the gun under his left ear...

Up 15 degrees when?!? This is frame 312.

I am just pointing out that her arm should be 15 degrees higher than you draw it...


How??? Follow the line from the bottom of her her elbow.
http://i54.tinypic.com/2qtxyf8.jpg

What you're saying is that her arm is going right through his shoulder at 15 degrees higher.

Her arm can only go above or below his shoulder.

This is why I'm saying she does not have rubber arms. Her hand is down by his rib cage, going underneath his shoulder.

It's an impossible shot.

I'm amazed you still can't see it. It's as plain as day.

You guys must be having serious issues figuring out scale as well.

It can go above his shoulder if John is leaning
towards Jackie. Further she could have made the shot with her forearm next to his shoulder. Apart from his left shoulder being down from leaning towards Jackie, his Torso could also have been rotated towards her and his arm and shoulder wouldn't be in the way.

[Neuro]

Looking at the picture, you can see his back which is an indication that his torso is rotated towards Jackie, could very well be that she pulled him towards her also thus his left shoulder would be lower...

[madfranks]

Wow, we're not even 10 days into 2011 and we already have the thread of the year!!!

[Bullion_Bob]

It can go above his shoulder if John is leaning
towards Jackie. Further she could have made the shot with her forearm next to his shoulder. Apart from his left shoulder being down from leaning towards Jackie, his Torso could also have been rotated towards her and his arm and shoulder wouldn't be in the way.


I think you're grabbing for straws at this point to save face.

It you follow the scale and realize the length of her forearm you can see where her hand would be. Not in the right place to be near his head, and on a downward angle.

In order to have her forearm raise up so that her hand could be in a position to be near his ear, her elbow would have to drop. It does't drop. Try this yourself.

Mimic her body positions, and see if it makes sense first hand by trying it yourself. If you want to really prove it to yourself get someone to sit beside you and see once and for all if it's possible. It isn't

[Bullion_Bob]

Looking at the picture, you can see his back which is an indication that his torso is rotated towards Jackie, could very well be that she pulled him towards her also thus his left shoulder would be lower...


Keep in mind that is the shoulder pad of his suit which raises off the shoulder when you raise your elbow. His right shoulder is actually a few inches lower indicating the angle of lean towards her is very small.

His shoulders are essentially horizontal.

[Neuro]

It can go above his shoulder if John is leaning
towards Jackie. Further she could have made the shot with her forearm next to his shoulder. Apart from his left shoulder being down from leaning towards Jackie, his Torso could also have been rotated towards her and his arm and shoulder wouldn't be in the way.


I think you're grabbing for straws at this point to save face.

It you follow the scale and realize the length of her forearm you c
an see where her hand would be. Not in the right place to be near his head, and on a downward angle.

In order to have her forearm raise up so that her hand could be in a position to be near his ear, her elbow would
have to drop. It does't drop. Try this yourself.

Mimic her body positions, and see if it makes sense first hand by trying it yourself. If you want to really prove it to yourself get someone to sit beside you and see once and for all if it's possible. It isn't
It certainly isn't impossible, besides the gun could be a few inches away from Johns head. I have already stated that it would be easier to do the shot with the elbow down. Besides you did correct the angle of her forearm by about the half of the suggested 15 degrees from the original drawing you made, correct it the rest and it was possible to make the shot.

[Bullion_Bob]

It can go above his shoulder if John is leaning
towards Jackie. Further she could have made the shot with her forearm next to his shoulder. Apart from his left shoulder being down from leaning towards Jackie, his Torso could also have been rotated towards her and his arm and shoulder wouldn't be in the way.


I think you're grabbing for straws at this point to save face.

It you follow the scale and realize the length of her forearm you c
an see where her hand would be. Not in the right place to be near his head, and on a downward angle.

In order to have her forearm raise up so that her hand could be in a position to be near his ear, her elbow would
have to drop. It does't drop. Try this yourself.

Mimic her body positions, and see if it makes sense first hand by trying it yourself. If you want to really prove it to yourself get someone to sit beside you and see once and for all if it's possible. It isn't
It certainly isn't impossible, besides the gun could be a few inches away from Johns head. I have already stated that it would be easier to do the shot with the elbow down. Besides you did correct the angle of her forearm by about the half of the suggested 15 degrees from the original drawing you made, correct it the rest and it was possible to make the shot.


It's very simple to prove this entire thing to yourself.

Raise your right arm out to the side, and angle your forearm down at a 45 degree angle to match her's. Now raise your forearm up to be anywhere close to where his head would be.

Notice what happens to the tip of your elbow? It drops down. It's impossible to raise your forearm up without the tip of your elbow dropping.

The tip of your elbow will always designate like a vector where your hand, and forearm can possibly be.

[Neuro]

Put your elbow at a support (like the back support of a cars couch) and do the same thing... ;)

[mamboni]

Wow, we're not even 10 days into 2011 and we already have the thread of the year!!!


Perhaps, but it doesn't speak well for this forum, as this thread is a long tortured debate over one of the most preposterous and baseless theories ever proposed - on it's face ludicrous. Silly waste of bandwidth IMHO.

[Bullion_Bob]

Put your elbow at a support (like the back support of a cars couch) and do the same thing... ;)


Now you're saying her elbow is resting on the back seat?

Now I've really heard it all.

I'll take that as your resignation from common sense, and the ability of your eyes to process information.

[madfranks]

Wow, we're not even 10 days into 2011 and we already have the thread of the year!!!


Perhaps, but it doesn't speak well for this forum, as this thread is a long tortured debate over one of the most preposterous and baseless theories ever proposed - on it's face ludicrous. Silly waste of bandwidth IMHO.


I think I agree with you, but I'm not going to delete the thread because of that. I will however move this thread to it's proper place, the conspiracies sub-forum.

[Bullion_Bob]

This is where it belongs (edit: conspiracy). There are IQ levels going on in this thread so low that I simply cannot fathom.

IQ levels that only trolling could offer a reasonable explanation for.

[Neuro]

Put your elbow at a support (like the back support of a cars couch) and do the same thing... ;)


Now you're saying her elbow is resting on the back seat?

Now I've really heard it all.

I'll take that as your resignation from common sense, and the ability of your eyes to process information.
You do seem to be a bit prone to hysteria to people who disagree with you. It does get a tad tiresome to discuss with you.

Anyway here is another one. Notice that the line you drew depicting where Jackie's right forearm should be. Isn't too many degrees off the angle of JFK's shoulders, which you say is pretty much horizontally level, why couldn't Jackie's forearm be too? She is in extreme torsal rotation herself, with her left shoulder closer to the camera than the right, thus her elbow would be pretty far from JFK, and she would have plenty of distance for her forearm and gun to put it below his left ear...;)

[Bullion_Bob]

Put your elbow at a support (like the back support of a cars couch) and do the same thing... ;)


Now you're saying her elbow is resting on the back seat?

Now I've really heard it all.

I'll take that as your resignation from common sense, and the ability of your eyes to process information.
You do seem to be a bit prone to hysteria to people who disagree with you. It does get a tad tiresome to discuss with you.

Anyway here is another one. Notice that the line you drew depicting where Jackie's right forearm should be. Isn't too many degrees off the angle of JFK's shoulders, which you say is pretty much horizontally level, why couldn't Jackie's forearm be too? She is in extreme torsal rotation herself, with her left shoulder closer to the camera than the right, thus her elbow would be pretty far from JFK, and she would have plenty of distance for her forearm and gun to put it below his left ear...;)


I think you're on bad medication, and or trolling.

In the post earlier you suggested her elbow was leaning on the seat, yet you can clearly see the shadow of her elbow on the seat, and it's obviously not touching anything, and it's the frame right before before bullet impact i.e. the shot has already been fired.

You simply don't have the comprehension skills to compute what your eyes are telling you, and continue to make up increasingly weak and contrived excuses.

You've lost all credibility of intelligently discussing anything in my eyes.

[Neuro]

Well bullion bob. I think you are incapable of holding this discussion without throwing personal insults around you, I understand that you are psychologically incapable of entertaining the idea that Jackie may have killed JFK. Personally I am not certain that she did, but I am not going to discuss it with you, since you are not capable of keeping the discussion outside of personal insults. Bye bye!

[Book]

I think I agree with you, but I'm not going to delete the thread because of that. I will however move this thread to it's proper place, the conspiracies sub-forum.



:D

[Bullion_Bob]

Well bullion bob. I think you are incapable of holding this discussion without throwing personal insults around you, I understand that you are psychologically incapable of entertaining the idea that Jackie may have killed JFK. Personally I am not certain that she did, but I am not going to discuss it with you, since you are not capable of keeping the discussion outside of personal insults. Bye bye!



At some point the bullsh*t has to be called bullsh*t. All you do is keep making up ridiculous excuses, not addressing the facts of the matter, and of what is being presented. You just keep making up nonsense continually trying to slip out of reality.

So I called it. Enough was enough. Smarten up.

[big country]

So I wanted to stay out of this discussion, but I read a couple pages (I'm admitting not all of it) so I don't know if this was brought up before, but why would there be that much gun smoke from SMOKELESS powder?

I know smokeless powder isn't 100% smoke free, but that is quite the puff of supposed smoke to be from a smokeless powder handgun. I've never had a handgun that I've shot have that much of a smoke cloud. I'm sure she didn't use a blackpowder flintlock. SO if that is smoke, got an explanation for it?


Again, sorry if this was addressed in the later pages I skipped.

[Neuro]

The thing is that we are staring at a 2-dimensional image, and we are trying to determine the angle of her elbow, but the problem is that to do that you need to determine what distance her left elbow was from JFK. I have been trying to do it, through deduction. As I have mentioned I think her elbow may have been quite far away from JFK, in the depth dimension of the camera position, and if that is true, her forearm would actually be practically horizontal, just follow an imaginative line between JFK's horizontal shoulders, and you will see that it is so. What would be really useful to get the exact position of Jackie in relation to John at the time of the shot, would be to have a photo from a different angel... Does anyone know if one exists?

[Glass]

Sewer Shot in JFK Assassination


Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 00:55:11 -0400
From John Judge
To: treefrog

Ed,

I missed the earlier part of this exchange but have always believed the fatal shot came from the storm sewer on Elm Street to the right front of the motorcade. This was not from speculation or photo angling. The letter from Ed T, whoever that is, hits the nail on the head. I used to crawl down in the sewer with Penn Jones in 60s and it is quite different today. For one thing, the bottom has been filled in (note the flattening of the pipe opening at the bottom) and the opening that used to come up to my armpits now only reaches my waist. Oliver Stone repaved the street for his film and considerably reduced the size of the opening onto the street. It was more than ample and wide for the head shot. And Penn Jones, Jim Garrison and other critics placed the shot there from reports by witnesses and the physical evidence. It was Mark Lane in the late 60's who tried to move everyone up to the Grassy Knoll.

1. Earwitnesses heard a completely different sound from the last shot fired, one saying it echoed as if in a sewer.

2. Connally and others in the motorcade smelled gunpowder during the events. Smoke rose upwards from the fence area atop the Grassy Knoll, and would not have reached them. However, the passing of the first car in the motorcade would suck air and smoke out of the sewer hole and along the route of the motorcade.

3. A shot from the Grassy Knoll would have reached JFK's head at a downward angle, exiting from the base of his skull, and driving him down into the seat as it sent him backwards. A close examination of his reaction in both Zapruder and Nix films shows that he rises up from the seat as he is thrown back at over 100 mph. The fatal shot blew out the upper right portion of his skull. Both are consistent with a shot from below.

4. Brain matter and skull fragments explode upwards and travel back and to the left with great velocity at the moment of impact. Jackie later revealed that she picked up a portion of skull on the left rear of the car behind her seat, before being pushed back in by Clint Hill. A portion of skull was found near the curb on the south side of Elm, nearly 30 feet behind the position of the car at the point of the fatal shot and across the street.

5. Officer Billy Hargis was riding his motorcycle to the left rear of JFK's limousine and witnessed the head shot. He was quoted in the Warren Commission testimony saying that he was hit so hard with a skull fragment through his leather jacket that he thought he had been hit by a bullet. He looked down to see he was covered with blood, stopped and got off his motorcycle, and said "Am I hit?" He later parked the motorcycle over the opening of the sewer and ran up the Grassy Knoll with other witnesses. Quoted in the Dallas Morning News on the 30th anniversary of the assassination, Hargis recalled the event and said the brain and blood matter arced up and came down on him. Again, all this is more consistent with a shot from below and to the front.

6. The storm sewer is a good hidden location, one that a military sniper would choose. Penn Jones crawled through the pipes and discovered that going west along Elm leads to the vertical pipe that opens behind the Grassy Knoll fence near the overpass, and going across Elm and to the east leads to a grate in the basement of the Dallas jail. He yelled out when he got there, but no one responded.

7. The sewer shot was rarely mentioned by researchers or the public after Lane focused on the Grassy Knoll, but a few of us kept seeking the evidence. Subsequent "tell all" books by alleged participants usually repeat the standard locations, the TSBD window or the Grassy Knoll, for verisimilitude. A book published in the 1990's, long after it would have been fashionable to lie about the sewer location, titled Treason is My Daily Bread, by Mikhail Ledbedev, reveals his role in a plot involving Nazi intelligent agent Reinhard Gehlen to kill Kennedy in Dallas, and mentions that he was sent to shoot from the storm sewer. He may be covering for the real assassin in this, but by picking the sewer location he adds credibility to his account in my view. There are many other indications that Gehlen and his cold war spy network that formed our CIA were part of the JFK assassination conspiracy.

In the end though, it does not matter exactly where the shots came from or who fired them, even. None of that leads us back to the plotters, but the patsy Oswald does. Focusing endlessly on Dealey Plaza will never solve the crime. The bullets came from the Pentagon, no matter what direction they took.

John Judge




Link..... (http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/sewerShot.html)

[mamboni]

Sewer Shot in JFK Assassination


Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 00:55:11 -0400
From John Judge
To: treefrog

Ed,

I missed the earlier part of this exchange but have always believed the fatal shot came from the storm sewer on Elm Street to the right front of the motorcade. This was not from speculation or photo angling. The letter from Ed T, whoever that is, hits the nail on the head. I used to crawl down in the sewer with Penn Jones in 60s and it is quite different today. For one thing, the bottom has been filled in (note the flattening of the pipe opening at the bottom) and the opening that used to come up to my armpits now only reaches my waist. Oliver Stone repaved the street for his film and considerably reduced the size of the opening onto the street. It was more than ample and wide for the head shot. And Penn Jones, Jim Garrison and other critics placed the shot there from reports by witnesses and the physical evidence. It was Mark Lane in the late 60's who tried to move everyone up to the Grassy Knoll.

1. Earwitnesses heard a completely different sound from the last shot fired, one saying it echoed as if in a sewer.

2. Connally and others in the motorcade smelled gunpowder during the events. Smoke rose upwards from the fence area atop the Grassy Knoll, and would not have reached them. However, the passing of the first car in the motorcade would suck air and smoke out of the sewer hole and along the route of the motorcade.

3. A shot from the Grassy Knoll would have reached JFK's head at a downward angle, exiting from the base of his skull, and driving him down into the seat as it sent him backwards. A close examination of his reaction in both Zapruder and Nix films shows that he rises up from the seat as he is thrown back at over 100 mph. The fatal shot blew out the upper right portion of his skull. Both are consistent with a shot from below.

4. Brain matter and skull fragments explode upwards and travel back and to the left with great velocity at the moment of impact. Jackie later revealed that she picked up a portion of skull on the left rear of the car behind her seat, before being pushed back in by Clint Hill. A portion of skull was found near the curb on the south side of Elm, nearly 30 feet behind the position of the car at the point of the fatal shot and across the street.

5. Officer Billy Hargis was riding his motorcycle to the left rear of JFK's limousine and witnessed the head shot. He was quoted in the Warren Commission testimony saying that he was hit so hard with a skull fragment through his leather jacket that he thought he had been hit by a bullet. He looked down to see he was covered with blood, stopped and got off his motorcycle, and said "Am I hit?" He later parked the motorcycle over the opening of the sewer and ran up the Grassy Knoll with other witnesses. Quoted in the Dallas Morning News on the 30th anniversary of the assassination, Hargis recalled the event and said the brain and blood matter arced up and came down on him. Again, all this is more consistent with a shot from below and to the front.

6. The storm sewer is a good hidden location, one that a military sniper would choose. Penn Jones crawled through the pipes and discovered that going west along Elm leads to the vertical pipe that opens behind the Grassy Knoll fence near the overpass, and going across Elm and to the east leads to a grate in the basement of the Dallas jail. He yelled out when he got there, but no one responded.

7. The sewer shot was rarely mentioned by researchers or the public after Lane focused on the Grassy Knoll, but a few of us kept seeking the evidence. Subsequent "tell all" books by alleged participants usually repeat the standard locations, the TSBD window or the Grassy Knoll, for verisimilitude. A book published in the 1990's, long after it would have been fashionable to lie about the sewer location, titled Treason is My Daily Bread, by Mikhail Ledbedev, reveals his role in a plot involving Nazi intelligent agent Reinhard Gehlen to kill Kennedy in Dallas, and mentions that he was sent to shoot from the storm sewer. He may be covering for the real assassin in this, but by picking the sewer location he adds credibility to his account in my view. There are many other indications that Gehlen and his cold war spy network that formed our CIA were part of the JFK assassination conspiracy.

In the end though, it does not matter exactly where the shots came from or who fired them, even. None of that leads us back to the plotters, but the patsy Oswald does. Focusing endlessly on Dealey Plaza will never solve the crime. The bullets came from the Pentagon, no matter what direction they took.

John Judge




Link..... (http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/sewerShot.html)


And here is an image showing where JFKs car was at the time of the headshot, as viewed from inside the Elm Street storm drain:



Looks like an excellent sniper nest.

[Bigjon]

Sewer Shot in JFK Assassination


Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 00:55:11 -0400
From John Judge
To: treefrog

Ed,

I missed the earlier part of this exchange but have always believed the fatal shot came from the storm sewer on Elm Street to the right front of the motorcade. This was not from speculation or photo angling. The letter from Ed T, whoever that is, hits the nail on the head. I used to crawl down in the sewer with Penn Jones in 60s and it is quite different today. For one thing, the bottom has been filled in (note the flattening of the pipe opening at the bottom) and the opening that used to come up to my armpits now only reaches my waist. Oliver Stone repaved the street for his film and considerably reduced the size of the opening onto the street. It was more than ample and wide for the head shot. And Penn Jones, Jim Garrison and other critics placed the shot there from reports by witnesses and the physical evidence. It was Mark Lane in the late 60's who tried to move everyone up to the Grassy Knoll.

1. Earwitnesses heard a completely different sound from the last shot fired, one saying it echoed as if in a sewer.

2. Connally and others in the motorcade smelled gunpowder during the events. Smoke rose upwards from the fence area atop the Grassy Knoll, and would not have reached them. However, the passing of the first car in the motorcade would suck air and smoke out of the sewer hole and along the route of the motorcade.

3. A shot from the Grassy Knoll would have reached JFK's head at a downward angle, exiting from the base of his skull, and driving him down into the seat as it sent him backwards. A close examination of his reaction in both Zapruder and Nix films shows that he rises up from the seat as he is thrown back at over 100 mph. The fatal shot blew out the upper right portion of his skull. Both are consistent with a shot from below.

4. Brain matter and skull fragments explode upwards and travel back and to the left with great velocity at the moment of impact. Jackie later revealed that she picked up a portion of skull on the left rear of the car behind her seat, before being pushed back in by Clint Hill. A portion of skull was found near the curb on the south side of Elm, nearly 30 feet behind the position of the car at the point of the fatal shot and across the street.

5. Officer Billy Hargis was riding his motorcycle to the left rear of JFK's limousine and witnessed the head shot. He was quoted in the Warren Commission testimony saying that he was hit so hard with a skull fragment through his leather jacket that he thought he had been hit by a bullet. He looked down to see he was covered with blood, stopped and got off his motorcycle, and said "Am I hit?" He later parked the motorcycle over the opening of the sewer and ran up the Grassy Knoll with other witnesses. Quoted in the Dallas Morning News on the 30th anniversary of the assassination, Hargis recalled the event and said the brain and blood matter arced up and came down on him. Again, all this is more consistent with a shot from below and to the front.

6. The storm sewer is a good hidden location, one that a military sniper would choose. Penn Jones crawled through the pipes and discovered that going west along Elm leads to the vertical pipe that opens behind the Grassy Knoll fence near the overpass, and going across Elm and to the east leads to a grate in the basement of the Dallas jail. He yelled out when he got there, but no one responded.

7. The sewer shot was rarely mentioned by researchers or the public after Lane focused on the Grassy Knoll, but a few of us kept seeking the evidence. Subsequent "tell all" books by alleged participants usually repeat the standard locations, the TSBD window or the Grassy Knoll, for verisimilitude. A book published in the 1990's, long after it would have been fashionable to lie about the sewer location, titled Treason is My Daily Bread, by Mikhail Ledbedev, reveals his role in a plot involving Nazi intelligent agent Reinhard Gehlen to kill Kennedy in Dallas, and mentions that he was sent to shoot from the storm sewer. He may be covering for the real assassin in this, but by picking the sewer location he adds credibility to his account in my view. There are many other indications that Gehlen and his cold war spy network that formed our CIA were part of the JFK assassination conspiracy.

In the end though, it does not matter exactly where the shots came from or who fired them, even. None of that leads us back to the plotters, but the patsy Oswald does. Focusing endlessly on Dealey Plaza will never solve the crime. The bullets came from the Pentagon, no matter what direction they took.

John Judge




Link..... (http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/sewerShot.html)


Well the conclusion says it all for me "Leads back to the pentagon". Make Americans distrust their government, instead of the Jews.

[Bigjon]

Actually the people who oppose the idea that Jackie fired the fatal shot have shown themselves to be gate keepers. Lines like how dare you think that that are their stock in trade. Only a moron could think that, another Book classic. Is being a gatekeeper a fulltime job booky? Grasping at straws and obfuscating the real evidence is their stock in trade.

But the evidence remains, a slow moving spent bullet caught on two frames of film, a shirt with the predominant bloodstains on the back left side (consistent with an entrance wound behind the left ear), gunsmoke on the left side of his head at the moment of the shot. The trajectory puts the shot inside the car,because it has the motion of the car as one of its components. The fact that JFK’s brain went missing is also evidence that it contained damning evidence that couldn’t be exposed.

The Jews have a long tradition of using their women as honey-pots to trap the unwary gentile and John Kennedy fit the profile. Handsome Senator JFK young and single wants to run for president and someone puts a very beautiful crypto-Jew in his path. They also have a long tradition of using women as female assassins as in the story of Esther. The Jews main objective is to control and eventually kill or enslave all the gentiles, without being exposed as the man behind the curtain.

[Libertarian_Guard]

Actually the people who oppose the idea that Jackie fired the fatal shot have shown themselves to be gate keepers. Lines like how dare you think that that are their stock in trade. Only a moron could think that, another Book classic. Is being a gatekeeper a fulltime job booky? Grasping at straws and obfuscating the real evidence is their stock in trade.

But the evidence remains, a slow moving spent bullet caught on two frames of film, a shirt with the predominant bloodstains on the back left side (consistent with an entrance wound behind the left ear), gunsmoke on the left side of his head at the moment of the shot. The trajectory puts the shot inside the car,because it has the motion of the car as one of its components. The fact that JFK’s brain went missing is also evidence that it contained damning evidence that couldn’t be exposed.

The Jews have a long tradition of using their women as honey-pots to trap the unwary gentile and John Kennedy fit the profile. Handsome Senator JFK young and single wants to run for president and someone puts a very beautiful crypto-Jew in his path. They also have a long tradition of using women as female assassins as in the story of Esther. The Jews main objective is to control and eventually kill or enslave all the gentiles, without being exposed as the man behind the curtain.



Bigjon

You would do yourself a favor by removing your ego and reexamining most of what you’ve had to say in this thread. Consider that you don’t have a monopoly on truth and understanding. You are entitled to your opinion, as are others. And really, that is all you’ve put forth here, is your opinion.

I can’t read this entire thread. But I have one question, in your opinion was Jackie in one the plan, or did she act as a manchurian candidate?

[Bigjon]

Actually the people who oppose the idea that Jackie fired the fatal shot have shown themselves to be gate keepers. Lines like how dare you think that that are their stock in trade. Only a moron could think that, another Book classic. Is being a gatekeeper a fulltime job booky? Grasping at straws and obfuscating the real evidence is their stock in trade.

But the evidence remains, a slow moving spent bullet caught on two frames of film, a shirt with the predominant bloodstains on the back left side (consistent with an entrance wound behind the left ear), gunsmoke on the left side of his head at the moment of the shot. The trajectory puts the shot inside the car,because it has the motion of the car as one of its components. The fact that JFK’s brain went missing is also evidence that it contained damning evidence that couldn’t be exposed.

The Jews have a long tradition of using their women as honey-pots to trap the unwary gentile and John Kennedy fit the profile. Handsome Senator JFK young and single wants to run for president and someone puts a very beautiful crypto-Jew in his path. They also have a long tradition of using women as female assassins as in the story of Esther. The Jews main objective is to control and eventually kill or enslave all the gentiles, without being exposed as the man behind the curtain.



Bigjon

You would do yourself a favor by removing your ego and reexamining most of what you’ve had to say in this thread. Consider that you don’t have a monopoly on truth and understanding. You are entitled to your opinion, as are others. And really, that is all you’ve put forth here, is your opinion.

I can’t read this entire thread. But I have one question, in your opinion was Jackie in one the plan, or did she act as a manchurian candidate?





Well to me she looked like a zombie as she carried out the act of killing JFK, so I would guess she spent the 3 months prior in heavy training for the big event. From all these orchestrated school shootings I think mind control is a very real thing.

[Book]

Is being a gatekeeper a fulltime job booky?

...The fact that JFK’s brain went missing is also evidence that it contained damning evidence that couldn’t be exposed.



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JACKIE SHOOTS JFK THEN STEALS HIS BRAIN

[Libertarian_Guard]

Actually the people who oppose the idea that Jackie fired the fatal shot have shown themselves to be gate keepers. Lines like how dare you think that that are their stock in trade. Only a moron could think that, another Book classic. Is being a gatekeeper a fulltime job booky? Grasping at straws and obfuscating the real evidence is their stock in trade.

But the evidence remains, a slow moving spent bullet caught on two frames of film, a shirt with the predominant bloodstains on the back left side (consistent with an entrance wound behind the left ear), gunsmoke on the left side of his head at the moment of the shot. The trajectory puts the shot inside the car,because it has the motion of the car as one of its components. The fact that JFK’s brain went missing is also evidence that it contained damning evidence that couldn’t be exposed.

The Jews have a long tradition of using their women as honey-pots to trap the unwary gentile and John Kennedy fit the profile. Handsome Senator JFK young and single wants to run for president and someone puts a very beautiful crypto-Jew in his path. They also have a long tradition of using women as female assassins as in the story of Esther. The Jews main objective is to control and eventually kill or enslave all the gentiles, without being exposed as the man behind the curtain.



Bigjon

You would do yourself a favor by removing your ego and reexamining most of what you’ve had to say in this thread. Consider that you don’t have a monopoly on truth and understanding. You are entitled to your opinion, as are others. And really, that is all you’ve put forth here, is your opinion.

I can’t read this entire thread. But I have one question, in your opinion was Jackie in one the plan, or did she act as a manchurian candidate?





Well to me she looked like a zombie as she carried out the act of killing JFK, so I would guess she spent the 3 months prior in heavy training for the big event. From all these orchestrated school shootings I think mind control is a very real thing.


Such elaborate planning and overlapping execution, with way too many involved? But why was it all necessary if Jackie could have ‘accidentally’ dropped an electric appliance into JFK’s bath water when they were off in a hotel?

I’ve never killed anyone, but if I ever need to, I’ll do it alone, or if absolutely necessary, with as few accomplices as possible. People talk!

[Bigjon]

Actually the people who oppose the idea that Jackie fired the fatal shot have shown themselves to be gate keepers. Lines like how dare you think that that are their stock in trade. Only a moron could think that, another Book classic. Is being a gatekeeper a fulltime job booky? Grasping at straws and obfuscating the real evidence is their stock in trade.

But the evidence remains, a slow moving spent bullet caught on two frames of film, a shirt with the predominant bloodstains on the back left side (consistent with an entrance wound behind the left ear), gunsmoke on the left side of his head at the moment of the shot. The trajectory puts the shot inside the car,because it has the motion of the car as one of its components. The fact that JFK’s brain went missing is also evidence that it contained damning evidence that couldn’t be exposed.

The Jews have a long tradition of using their women as honey-pots to trap the unwary gentile and John Kennedy fit the profile. Handsome Senator JFK young and single wants to run for president and someone puts a very beautiful crypto-Jew in his path. They also have a long tradition of using women as female assassins as in the story of Esther. The Jews main objective is to control and eventually kill or enslave all the gentiles, without being exposed as the man behind the curtain.



Bigjon

You would do yourself a favor by removing your ego and reexamining most of what you’ve had to say in this thread. Consider that you don’t have a monopoly on truth and understanding. You are entitled to your opinion, as are others. And really, that is all you’ve put forth here, is your opinion.

I can’t read this entire thread. But I have one question, in your opinion was Jackie in one the plan, or did she act as a manchurian candidate?





Well to me she looked like a zombie as she carried out the act of killing JFK, so I would guess she spent the 3 months prior in heavy training for the big event. From all these orchestrated school shootings I think mind control is a very real thing.


Such elaborate planning and overlapping execution, with way too many involved? But why was it all necessary if Jackie could have ‘accidentally’ dropped an electric appliance into JFK’s bath water when they were off in a hotel?

I’ve never killed anyone, but if I ever need to, I’ll do it alone, or if absolutely necessary, with as few accomplices as possible. People talk!




Yes people talk just as we are talking, but we don't get any news coverage. What the media prints as "news" is what is important, haven't you learned that yet?

Yes there were lots of people involved and this sort of thing has been going on for years, but years of watching Perry Mason has lead them to believe all the guilty are always caught.

This was much more than a simple husband/wife murder plot as virtually all of the Jews main scams were being threatened by the Kennedy brothers. The Federal Reserve money scam, Organized crime, hell all of TPTB wanted him dead.


Reasons for killing Kennedy in such a high profile manner

---his 'crimes' against the Jewish Mafia had to be slapped down in full global view of international Freemasonry and other crime syndicates to show who was boss

These crimes included

---resistance to Israeli military dominance (getting nukes is cited - I am still not sure nukes are what they say they are)

....The big one - public money not Jewish fiat would denude the 'terrible power of our purse'

----and now I learn
Quote:President John F Kennedy and Attorney General Robert Kennedy attempted to have the American Zionist Council, (the parent organization of AIPAC), registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act

http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=585


Jackie's 3 month vacation
http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/socialdiary/2004/09_07_04/socialdiary09_07_04.php


Connecting the dots: when Jackie Kennedy took that first trip on the Christina after the death of her child, although the White House presented the voyage with a “positive spin,” they did not want her to go. They being her husband, the President, and his brother Bobby. They couldn’t stop her, however, and one reason, according to Peter Evans’ book, was because she was in a fury over her husband’s constant dalliances including while she was in labor with the ill-fated child. The trip on the Christina, changed everything: Jackie, in effect, stole Onassis away from her sister, beginning a relationship (sometimes an affair), that culminated in a marriage announcement only weeks after the assassination of Robert Kennedy in Los Angeles in June 1968.

[Libertarian_Guard]

Now I am wondering if Perry Mason was either a Jew or a Mason or both.

[Awoke]

Regardless of how self proclaimed "seemingly more intelligent" crowd here (who seems to think it's OK to belittle anyone who harbours the possibility of jackie being the shooter) can deem the Jackie theory a total impossibility, I still find her "sleight of hand" movements very curious before climbing out onto the car boot.

But it doesn't matter to you guys, because based on the bullshit closed-minded attitudes I've seen demonstrated in this thread, there is absolutely, positively and unquestionably no chance that it is possible that Jackie was the shooter, because you have said so.


Glad you all can clear things up so succinctly. Please help me brush aside all other possibilities in regards to FEMA camps, mass burial coffin stores, Thermosil in vaccines, Fluoride in water, et al, to spare me the time of theorizing on possibilities and wasting my time going "down the garden path" so to speak.

Your dogma is so comforting.

[Neuro]

Yes, exactly the same tactics were used by the shills on GIM, when the official version of 911 was questioned!

[Book]

Regardless of how self proclaimed "seemingly more intelligent" crowd here (who seems to think it's OK to belittle anyone who harbours the possibility of jackie being the shooter) can deem the Jackie theory a total impossibility, I still find her "sleight of hand" movements very curious before climbing out onto the car boot.



http://thunewatch.squarespace.com/resource/JFK.jpg?fileId=2176534

I plead guilty to mocking anyone who:

a) Claims Jackie shot her husband in an open convertible while America stared from the nearby sidewalk and on national television.

b) Claims Jackie acted "unusual" while being splattered with her dying husband's brain and blood.

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[Neuro]

Not many on the sidewalk were he was shot, but Zapruder was there to document the event, and it only took a measly 12 years before the film was released. You haven't done anything but appealing to emotion in this thread Book.

[Awoke]

Regardless of how self proclaimed "seemingly more intelligent" crowd here (who seems to think it's OK to belittle anyone who harbours the possibility of jackie being the shooter) can deem the Jackie theory a total impossibility, I still find her "sleight of hand" movements very curious before climbing out onto the car boot.



http://thunewatch.squarespace.com/resource/JFK.jpg?fileId=2176534

I plead guilty to mocking anyone who:

a) Claims Jackie shot her husband in an open convertible while America stared from the nearby sidewalk and on national television.

b) Claims Jackie acted "unusual" while being splattered with her dying husband's brain and blood.

|--0--|




A) I never claimed she did it. I said it's a possibilty, and her body language offers much speculation.

B) She also had herself pulled together quite nicely 1 hour later for the swearing in of the Vice. I suppose that's "usual" behaviour too?

[Book]

I never claimed she did it. I said it's a possibility...



http://dancingwithfools.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/tabloid.jpg

What isn't a possibility? Maybe JFK shot himself to frame Jackie. Prove he didn't using that same video.

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[Book]

The fact that JFK’s brain went missing is also evidence that it contained damning evidence that couldn’t be exposed.



Send Mamboni one American Gold Eagle and you can ask JFK three questions yourself. Anybody who doubts Mamboni talks to JFK's living brain is a "GSUS Gatekeeper" and crypto jew agent trying to destroy the Truth Movement.

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[Bigjon]

The fact that JFK’s brain went missing is also evidence that it contained damning evidence that couldn’t be exposed.



Send Mamboni one American Gold Eagle and you can ask JFK three questions yourself. Anybody who doubts Mamboni talks to JFK's living brain is a "GSUS Gatekeeper" and crypto jew agent trying to destroy the Truth Movement.

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How many sock puppets do you have bookie?

[Buddha]

PM me mamboni as I have one troy oz au that I would like to send to you if you would be so kind as to ask JKF these three questions.

1.) How was Jakie in the sack? A woman that can handle recoil like that must have been able to give a mean buff job.

2.) Was Raymond Burr a crypto lucie masonic jew? Hence Perry MASON

3.) If a building it built, then why is it still called a building?

Thank you in advance! This will certainly clear up some of the tough questions of the day for me. As well as allow me to sleep a little better at night.

[Neuro]

PM me mamboni as I have one troy oz au that I would like to send to you if you would be so kind as to ask JKF these three questions.

1.) How was Jakie in the sack? A woman that can handle recoil like that must have been able to give a mean buff job.

2.) Was Raymond Burr a crypto lucie masonic jew? Hence Perry MASON

3.) If a building it built, then why is it still called a building?

Thank you in advance! This will certainly clear up some of the tough questions of the day for me. As well as allow me to sleep a little better at night.

Hahahahahaha! You fool!!!!! Everyone knows that JFK can't answer question 2 and 3, those are for Nixon! As for how Jackie was in the sack, it is common knowledge that she layed absolutely still covered with a sheet with a hole in it, as is the tradition of her people...

A fool and his money will soon be parted! Haha!

[Bigjon]

http://www.beauty-and-the-bath.com/image-files/bouffant-hairstyle-jackie-kennedy.jpg

The image shown in this leaflet depict wax figures created and owned by Madame Tussauds bouffant hairstyle jackie kennedy

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Nice try Bigjon.





Link please?

[Book]

http://0.tqn.com/d/dc/1/0/U/T/JackieKennedy.JPG
Bigjon's "photo" of Jackie as posted.

The images shown in this leaflet depict wax figures created and owned by Madame Tussauds (http://www.beauty-and-the-bath.com/The-1960-Bouffant-Hairstyle.html)

Here you go buddy!

:)