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Serpo
8th January 2011, 11:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJAiutL8JyU&feature=player_embedded#!

TheNocturnalEgyptian
8th January 2011, 12:16 PM
Is this the apricot kernal thing?

Been a proclaimed cancer cure since the 1950's. Anyone who pushes it is demonized. For a while a doctor was in the US curing cancer with it, FDA claimed it was dangerous, so he moved to australia and started injecting 50x the "lethal" dose daily. That was in 1954 - he's still alive, and he still does a daily injection of 50x the "lethal" dose.


Google Keywords: "Apricot Kernal Cures Cancer"

" Vitamin B17 "

f*cking facists don't know how to run a double-blind study correctly.

Horn
8th January 2011, 12:24 PM
So B-17 is the "cure"?

Twisted Titan
8th January 2011, 12:37 PM
The Crime was that Jason was selling the seeds

The Crime was he wanst giving "Big Daddy" his cut of the loot.

T

TheNocturnalEgyptian
8th January 2011, 12:40 PM
So B-17 is the "cure"?


The way I understand it, yeah.

I've only read about this one,

but still, there are lots of reports from people that had cancer and were fed up with the medical industry, and actually got results from this product

Btw Apricot seeds are illegal to consume at the federal level...for your protection.

slvrbugjim
8th January 2011, 12:44 PM
So B-17 is the "cure"?


It depends, used with other treatments it can help, his tumor never completely was gone.

I like the Budwig/ Select protocol as it uses mostly a change in lifestyle with the protocol.

The Select product has actually changed my life.

Shami-Amourae
8th January 2011, 12:51 PM
So B-17 is the "cure"?


It's one of them. My friend had throat cancer and chewed apple seeds, which cured it. Her doctor had to literally whisper it into her ear, and tell her not to tell anyone who she got it from.


Please watch this to find out more:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4312930190281243507

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4312930190281243507
Note: This documentary was made by G. Edward Griffin, yeah, the guy who wrote The Creature from Jekyll Island!





I eat apricot kernels daily. Taste great, just like almonds, but a little bitter. My real life collection:

gunDriller
8th January 2011, 12:53 PM
So B-17 is the "cure"?


It's one of them. My friend had throat cancer and chewed apple seeds, which cured it. I eat apricot kernels daily. Taste great, just like almonds, but a little bitter.

how do you get to the kernel - do you use a nut-cracker or something, or just chew the seed with your teeth ?

Shami-Amourae
8th January 2011, 12:57 PM
how do you get to the kernel - do you use a nut-cracker or something, or just chew the seed with your teeth ?


I buy them here (http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWF062/ItemDetail). There's plenty of other places to buy them, but avoid the ones from the United States since they may be pasteurized, even if it says "raw" on it. They MUST be raw, or the BENEFICIAL cyanide gets cooked off.

You can always do it from organic apple too, but I just like popping a few apricot kernels in my mouth as a snack everyday since I love the taste.

midnight rambler
8th January 2011, 01:00 PM
So B-17 is the "cure"?


G. Edward Griffin thinks so.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51AXZHKD5WL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg

Horn
8th January 2011, 02:26 PM
I mentioned this to my sister (a doctor) and she said there was no evidence.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
8th January 2011, 02:35 PM
That's because conducting a study on this is a federal crime :-\

slvrbugjim
8th January 2011, 02:40 PM
I mentioned this to my sister (a doctor) and she said there was no evidence.


Wow, what a surprise that an allopathic AMA Doctor would reject anything other than poisoning, cutting or burning for treatment.

Cebu_4_2
8th January 2011, 04:09 PM
This place says 'not sun dried' Just ordered up a few pounds to send out.

http://www.ordershere.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=seed

Serpo
8th January 2011, 04:26 PM
http://www.b17.com.au/default.asp

Shami-Amourae
9th January 2011, 01:27 AM
I mentioned this to my sister (a doctor) and she said there was no evidence.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCMzjJjuxQI
Don't take this the wrong way, but western doctors are prostitutes, whether they know it or not.



I can go through all the times it was proved to work in the US and people suddenly died, or careers were destroyed. Keep note this is only one of the treatments of cancer. The Gerson Therapy is probably even more effective, and there's others I've heard of, but don't care enough to look into since The Gerson Therapy and Amygdalin are probably the best. If you want some quick studies that show it's effectiveness look here:

http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bpb/29/8/1597/_pdf
http://www.wjgnet.com/1007-9327/11/5156.pdf

Notice, they are both from Asia.




http://www.whale.to/cancer/sug.jpg
Kanematsu Sugiura

The interesting one would have to do with Kanematsu Sugiura who was a senior scientist at the Rockefeller owned Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center. He basically was near the end of his career and was chosen to look into it. Since Kanematsu was at the end of his career, he decided he had nothing to lose when he said that it worked. Read this:


Source (http://www.getipm.com/personal/cancer-racket.htm)
So that is it then, right? It does not get more adamant than that, we can close the book on Laetrile. Unfortunately for the officials at Sloan-Kettering there was an unforeseen problem. When a journalist asked Dr. Kanematsu Sugiura; "Do you stick by your belief that Laetrile stops the spread of cancer"? He replied, "I stick." Those two words were a major embarrassment to the accumulated demigods on the dais. The reason being is that Dr. Kanematsu Sugiura was the preeminent cancer researcher in America, probably the world, at this time. Nobody had ever questioned Sugiura's data in over sixty years of cancer research before. Sugiura was asked why Sloan-Kettering was against Laetrile.

"Why are they so much against it"? Sugiura answered "I don't know. Maybe the medical profession doesn't like it because they are making too much money." Sugiura had to be proven wrong. But other researchers had obtained essentially the same positive results. Dr. Lloyd Schloen a biochemist at Sloan-Kettering had included proteolytic enzymes to his injections and reported 100% cure rate among his albino mice. This data had to be buried. They then changed the protocols of the tests and amounts of Laetrile to make certain that they failed. Not surprisingly, they failed, and that is what they reported. Sloan-Kettering's motives were clearly revealed in the minutes of a meeting that top officials held on July 2, 1974. The discussions were private and candid. The fact that numerous Sloan-Kettering officials were convinced of the effectiveness of amygdalin is obvious, they just were not sure as to the degree of its effectiveness. But they were not interested in further testing of this natural product. The minutes read; "...Sloan-Kettering is not enthusiastic about studying amygdalin [Laetrile] but would like to study CN (cyanide)-releasing drugs."


That last line that basically ADMIT it works, but they won't use it since they can't profit off it! People need to understand what a total scam most Western Medicine is. This just shows that if they can't make a buck off it, it's a conspiracy theory, or pseudoscience.


Sloan-Kettering wanted a man-made patentable chemical to mimic the qualities found in amygdalin, because that is where the money is. If a very effective cancer treatment or cure was found in the lowly apricot seed, it would spell economic disaster for the cancer industry.

Serpo
9th January 2011, 02:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEGKT6UqzFs
This sounds interesting....

Possible cancer cure found in blushwood shrub

CANCER patients are offering themselves as human guinea pigs as researchers investigate a possible cure for cancer that was found in north Queensland rainforests.

Scientists have identified a compound in the fruit of the native blushwood shrub that appears to "liquefy and destroy cancer with no side-effects", according to latest research.

Found deep in the remnants of a 130 million-year-old rainforest, the fruit extract may yet hold the secret antidote to Australia's No.1 killer disease.

Victoria Gordon, of EcoBiotics, an Atherton Tableland-based company, said they hoped to go to human clinical trials later this year.

Dr Gordon said a single dose injection of the extract, known as EBC-46, had been effective in 50 critically ill dogs and about a dozen cats and horses.

"This is proving to be something exceptional," she said.


"The tumour literally liquefies.

"There is a rapid knock-down of the tumour, it disintegrates within 24 hours and we have a rapid healing response.

"The biggest tumour we treated was the size of a Coke can in a dog, and that animal is fully healed and healthy."

Dr Gordon said it had worked on skin cancers, such as carcinomas and melanomas, and bone cancer, and was a possible treatment for breast, colon and prostate cancer.

But she warned wannabe human guinea pigs against seeking under-the-table treatment.

She said it was "immoral, illegal, and unscientific" to seek to be administered the drug before approval, likely to take up to seven years, by the Therapeutic Goods Administration.

"We have been inundated with calls – it shows there is such a need for a breakthrough in anti-cancer treatment," she said. "Most people understand when we explain the situation."

Former breast cancer sufferer Mena Crew, 65, said many dying of cancer would "do anything for a miracle cure".

"We would all like a magic cure, that would be wonderful, and I hope in my lifetime we find it," the breast cancer support volunteer said.

She has worked with more than 200 sufferers and some victims in her role with the Cancer Council Queensland.

"I don't want to kill the enthusiasm of all the wonderful research, but until it is proven it will do the job, we recommend they go with proven and conventional treatments," she said.

"It is good, however, to think the secret antidote may be growing in the jungle above Cairns."

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/possible-cancer-cure-found-in-blushwood-shrub/story-e6freoof-1225826874057

jetgraphics
9th January 2011, 02:43 AM
This is but another reason why decriminalization of the trade in health care must precede any action in support of "Universal Health Care".
As long as the government can take away your right to buy and sell, give and receive treatment, your right to life is at risk.

Serpo
9th January 2011, 03:06 AM
I mentioned this to my sister (a doctor) and she said there was no evidence.


Wow, what a surprise that an allopathic AMA Doctor would reject anything other than poisoning, cutting or burning for treatment.


Yes they have been programmed and seem to live by it but then from the beginning the wrong people can be picked to be doctors as a lot of it is based on intellectual abilities and not healing abilities.What I mean by that as some people have healing abilities and these people are suppressed thru the system.

Listen to no one but yourself, as the truth in health matters certainly isnt obvious, but what is obvious is that the health system is being used for profit and thus population control. This has to add up to the greatest EVIL ever placed on human beings by other human beings.
The blame is squarely on drug companies who reap in obscene profits and they have made Doctors wholly dependant on them ,full stop.

All doctors must understand this ,,,,but it pays well........in the end it is the system that everything runs by that is the patient as it is very very sick indeed......

All breakthroughs are ignored and its the time to get angry about it.

Neuro
9th January 2011, 05:43 AM
She said it was "immoral, illegal, and unscientific" to seek to be administered the drug before approval, likely to take up to seven years, by the Therapeutic Goods Administration.That ridiculous sentence sums it up. It is immoral to want to live if it hasn't been approved by government.

BarneyFag
9th January 2011, 12:47 PM
It's true nothing can be cured naturally, the FDA told me so.

There are many way's to cure cancer naturally, but a miracle seed will only go so far, if one doesn't change his lifestyle. I read this on flaxseed oil. http://www.beckwithfamily.com/Flax1.html. The guy finally did die, some 14 years after being dianosed. I'm doing about 2 tablespoons a day with cottage cheese, when I stop taking it for as few days, the symptoms come back.

Antonio
9th January 2011, 12:55 PM
So B-17 is the "cure"?


It's one of them. My friend had throat cancer and chewed apple seeds, which cured it. Her doctor had to literally whisper it into her ear, and tell her not to tell anyone who she got it from.


Please watch this to find out more:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4312930190281243507

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4312930190281243507
Note: This documentary was made by G. Edward Griffin, yeah, the guy who wrote The Creature from Jekyll Island!





I eat apricot kernels daily. Taste great, just like almonds, but a little bitter. My real life collection:


I`ve eaten every apple seed from every apple i`ve ever eaten in my life instinctively.

StreetsOfGold
9th January 2011, 01:59 PM
This is one of the reasons they locked up Kent Hovind, In his Part 2 Creation seminar series The Garden of Eden he talks about Apricot Kernal seeds and their ability to cure cancer.

True story:

I went to me local Health food store (about 6 years ago) and asked for Apricot Kernal seeds, they were NOT out on the shelves but BEHIND THE COUNTER. I asked why that was and they told me it WAS THE LAW to NOT keep them out where PEOPLE CAN SEE THEM. Upon purchase they were REQUIRED BY LAW to WARN ME OF THEIR DANGERS. No kidding. So, no wonder they don't sell them anymore, except by REQUEST and then they have to special order them.

Shami-Amourae
9th January 2011, 02:26 PM
There are many way's to cure cancer naturally, but a miracle seed will only go so far, if one doesn't change his lifestyle.


That's why I also mentioned the Gerson Therapy (http://gold-silver.us/forum/health-and-fitness/possible-treatments-for-cancer/msg40299/#msg40299), which deals with the underlining diet issue. Almost all health issues are related to deficiency and/or toxicity to different degrees. Fix the diet, you fix the deficiency, and detox naturally. The body will finally have a chance to heal itself naturally.

Kali
9th January 2011, 09:12 PM
how do you get to the kernel - do you use a nut-cracker or something, or just chew the seed with your teeth ?


I buy them here (http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWF062/ItemDetail).


How many do you eat a day? The site you linked to says "It is recommended that daily consumption of apricot kernels not exceed 8 per day."

Recommended by who?

And why only 8? Slow cyanide poisoning?

I believe its a fact they contain cyanide so there must be a # that becomes toxic.

Kali
9th January 2011, 09:19 PM
This is what a company selling apricot kernels on Amazon says:


Safety Information
Pay attention to your body's signals. Three of the signs of toxicity from too many kernels are dizziness, blurred vision, and nausea. If any of these occur, then remember how many kernels you ate at one time and simply make sure you don't repeat that experience.

Directions
Take no more kernels than half the number you likely would eat if you also were consuming the entire fruit.

Sound pretty dangerous.

http://www.iamunscared.com/protein-wars-and-why-selling-out-is-so-easy/

AndreaGail
9th January 2011, 10:23 PM
i've had an apple a day for as long as i can remember and eaten seeds and all the last few years after seeing the videos

maybe there is more to 'an apple a day keeps the doctor away' and johnny appleseed

Shami-Amourae
10th January 2011, 01:33 AM
How many do you eat a day? The site you linked to says "It is recommended that daily consumption of apricot kernels not exceed 8 per day."


Watch the video I posted above and it explains it. I eat about 7 apricot kernels a day. The rule of thumb is not to eat more seeds than you would eat fruit in a day. So would you ever eat 40 apples in a day? No. So you shouldn't eat 40 apples worth of apple seeds a day.

The thing is this is SAFE cyanide, meaning, it's not released unless it comes in contact with a cancer cell. The cancer cells have a unique enzyme that your normal cells don't have that releases the cyanide, thus killing the cancer cells like a smart bomb. You can get toxicity with it nevertheless like any other vitamin (notably Vitamin A,) if you take too much.

Remember, Vitamin B-17 is in many of the foods you are already familiar with, and even consume. If you're so afraid of Vitamin B-17, check out where else you're not getting enough:

__________________________________________________ __________________________




Foods Containing Vitamin B-17 (Nitrilosides)
Source (http://www.vitaminb17.org/foods.htm)
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Vitamin B17 appears in abundance in untamed nature. Because B17 is bitter to the taste, in man's attempt to improve tastes and flavors for his own pleasure, he has eliminated bitter substances like B17 by selection and cross-breeding. It can be stated as a general rule that many of the foods that have been domesticated still contain the vitamin B17 in that part not eaten by modem man, such as the seeds in apricots. Listed below is an evaluation of some of the more common foods. Keep in mind that these are averages only and that specimens vary widely depending on variety, locale, soil, and climate.


KEY
Red = above 500 mgs. nitriloside per 100 grams food (High Levels)
Green = above 100 mgs. per 100 grams food (Medium Levels)
Blue = below 100 mgs. per 100 grams food (Low Levels)
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Fruits
blackberry, domestic
blackberry, wild
boysenberry
choke cherry
wild crabapple
market cranberry
Swedish (lignon) cranberry
currant
elderberry
gooseberry
huckleberry
loganberry
mulberry
quince
raspberry


Seeds
apple seeds
apricot seed
buckwheat
cherry seed
flax
millet
nectarine seed
peach seed
pear seeds
plum seed
prune seed
squash seeds


Beans
black
black-eyed peas
fava
garbanzo
green pea
kidney
lentils
lima, U.S.
lima, Burma
mung



Nuts (all raw)
bitter almond (They banned the whole f*cking tree!)
cashew
macadamia


Sprouts
alfalfa
bamboo
fava
garbanzo
mung


Leaves
alfalfa
beet tops
eucalyptus
spinach
water cress


Tubers
cassava
sweet potato
yams




If you want to find out more, you can read the PDF version of World Without Cancer (http://www.amazon.com/World-Without-Cancer-Story-Vitamin/dp/0912986190/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294648075&sr=1-1) here (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/world_withoutcancer.pdf). Or get the books World Without Cancer (http://www.amazon.com/World-Without-Cancer-Story-Vitamin/dp/0912986190/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294648075&sr=1-1) and Alive and Well (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0912986174/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1GA0PXCTY4AQETMW99BH&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846). Read the comments on both of these books if you still aren't convinced.

Shami-Amourae
10th January 2011, 04:49 AM
By the way, the story of Jason Vale is nothing when you see the story of Greg Canton. He was forced to flee to Ecuador to tell people the truth about cancer, and sell some of the remedies, but the FDA literally kidnapped him and sent him on an American Airlines jet sent to Miami. Trust me on this, when the Police State uses THIS much force on herbs and remedies, I do you need anymore evidence they work?! Of course! This reveals their scam!

http://www.naturalnews.com/027750_Greg_Caton_FDA.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcwTP-JEVHs

Kali
10th January 2011, 12:31 PM
Jason Vale is a scam artist.

He says big pharma doesn't want us to have the cure for cancer because they wont make any money but yet he's willing to sell us injectable Laetrile and laetrile pills....even though it was eating apricot seeds that supposedly cured him.

While I agree with his statement about big pharma, hes simply using this as a way to profit.

"It's bad if they profit, but not if I do".

LMAO

If I ate apricot seeds and cured my cancer I would tell the world for free otherwise you become "just like them".

It's "eating the seeds" that supposedly cures the cancer. Making the injectables and pills is "for profit".

Serpo
10th January 2011, 01:57 PM
Jason Vale is a scam artist.

He says big pharma doesn't want us to have the cure for cancer because they wont make any money but yet he's willing to sell us injectable Laetrile and laetrile pills....even though it was eating apricot seeds that supposedly cured him.

While I agree with his statement about big pharma, hes simply using this as a way to profit.

"It's bad if they profit, but not if I do".

LMAO

If I ate apricot seeds and cured my cancer I would tell the world for free otherwise you become "just like them".

It's "eating the seeds" that supposedly cures the cancer. Making the injectables and pills is "for profit".


Difference between something that works and something that dosnt ...

Cebu_4_2
10th January 2011, 04:07 PM
Difference between something that works and something that dosnt ...


Please expand Serpo

Serpo
10th January 2011, 04:23 PM
I mean getting paid for something effective that destroys cancer is a lot different to being paid for something that is basically useless (normal cancer treatment)

Kali
11th January 2011, 04:09 PM
Apricot seeds are not "the cure" for cancer.

To say such a thing is moronic.

There are many different types of cancers and many different causes and many different stages.

If apricot seeds were curing cancers even a fraction of the time then word of mouth would spread this cure and the FDA can't control that.

Hardly anyone has heard of this "cure" because it didn't work for most that have tried it.

Online research will show this is the case.

The ones that it did work for are the ones selling the books and Laetrile.

Serpo
11th January 2011, 04:23 PM
Apricot seeds are not "the cure" for cancer.

To say such a thing is moronic.

There are many different types of cancers and many different causes and many different stages.

If apricot seeds were curing cancers even a fraction of the time then word of mouth would spread this cure and the FDA can't control that.

Hardly anyone has heard of this "cure" because it didn't work for most that have tried it.

Online research will show this is the case.

The ones that it did work for are the ones selling the books and Laetrile.






Not sure anyone said it was a The curebut it certainly is a cure as some people can testify.




So how does B17 kill cancer?...... Here we go....

Firstly we need to understand that our bodies use several enzymes to perform many tasks. Our body has one particular enzyme called Rhodanese which is found in large quantities throughout the body but is not present where ever there are cancer cells. Yet, where ever you find cancer in the body, you find another enzyme called Beta-Glucosidase. So, we have the enzyme Rhodanese found everywhere in the body except at the cancer cells, and we have the enzyme Beta-Glucosidase found in very large quantities only at the cancer cell but not found anywhere else in the body. If there is no cancer in the body there is no enzyme Beta-Glucosidase.

Now the following is what scares most people. You see, Vitamin B17 is made up of 2 parts glucose, 1 part Hydrogen Cyanide and 1 part Benzaldehyde(analgesic/painkiller). So its very important you understand the following:

When B17 is introduced to the body, it is broken down by the enzyme Rhodanese. The Rhodanese breaks the Hydrogen Cyanide and Benzaldehyde down into 2 by-products, Thiocyanate and Benzoic acid which are beneficial in nourishing healthy cells and forms the metabolic pool production for vitamin B12. Any excess of these by-products is expelled in normal fashion from the body via urine. Vitamin B17 passes through your body and does not last longer than 80 minutes inside your body as a result of the Rhodanese breaking it down. (Hydrogen Cyanide has been proven to be chemically inert and non toxic when taken as food or refined pharmaceutical such as laetrile. Sugar has be shown to be 20 times more toxic than B17 - see good & bad cyanide).

HERE IS THE GOOD PART - When the B17 comes into contact with cancer cells, there is no Rhodanese to break it down and neutrelise it but instead, only the enzyme Beta-Gucosidase is present in very large quantities. When B17 and Beta-Glucosidase come into contact with each other, a chemical reaction occurs and the Hydrogen Cyanide and Benzaldehyde combine synergistically to produce a poison which destroys and kills the cancer cells.

This whole process is known as selective toxicity. Only the cancer cells are specifically targeted and destroyed. See the diagram below.

That is how Vitamin B17 Kills Cancer. It has been proven and illustrated to work by the some of the top specialists in the world. Thats why the Contreras hospital in Mexico have been able over the LAST 30 YEARS to successfully treat over 100,000 cancer patients!!!


http://www.b17.com.au/copy.asp?sect=q1&page=howdoes




Just like Scurvy, Berri-Berri and Pelagra, cancer is a nutritional defiency disease. Stop consuming foods with vitamin C and you will develop scurvy. Stop consuming food with vitamin B and you will develop Pellagra. Stop consuming food with nitrilosides (vitamin B17) and you will develop cancer. And this is exactly what has happened in our modern life.

http://www.b17.com.au/copy.asp?sect=legals&page=disclaimer


Cyanide targets cancer
BBC
By BBC News Online's Jonathan Amos

Scientists are using cyanide to attack tumours.

They have tested a two-stage drug that harnesses the power of the dangerous chemical to kill bowel cancer cells in the lab.

The researchers, at Imperial College, London, now hope to refine the technology and test it on patients.

The technique takes a lead from some plants that release cyanide to protect themselves from insect attack.

Tumour specific

The cassava plant, almond tree and hydrangea, all have an enzyme that will produce cyanide when it comes into contact with a particular sugar molecule.

The enzyme and the sugar are normally kept apart and are only brought together when a pest bites into the plant tissue.

The Imperial College scientists have engineered the enzyme and attached it to an antibody that will target specific tumours, when injected into the body.

A second drug, containing the sugar, would then be introduced which would react with the enzyme to release cyanide and kill the cancer cells.

No resistance

Dr Mahendra Deonarain said the system would be so specific that only the target tumour would be exposed to the cyanide.

"The enzyme will circulate around the body and accumulate in the tumour only, and then it will clear from everywhere else. Then the second step is to inject the sugar drug and that itself will circulate around the body but only where the tumour is, where the enzyme is, will you get the cyanide.

"It will be enough to kill the cancer cells and you will be able to repeat it over and over again until the tumour has gone."

Dr Deonarain said the cancer cells would not be able to develop resistance to the cyanide in the way they can with some of current cancer therapies.

http://www.b17.com.au/otherpages/cyanidecassava.htm

Serpo
11th January 2011, 04:29 PM
I am not overly pro on B17 more than other cancer cures(health forum)http://gold-silver.us/forum/health-and-fitness/possible-treatments-for-cancer/ but the facts are out there....

Has B17 been tested by Modern Medicine?
"Everyone should know that most cancer research is largely a fraud…"
- Linus Pauling PhD (1901-1994) Two times Nobel Prize winner.

The answer simply is YES. It only stands for logic and reason that the FDA and other cancer organizations at least attempt to investigate the claims that laetrile makes. There have been many tests over the last 30 years conducted on laetrile. This section will concentrate on a major 5 year study which was undertaken by America's number one Cancer Research department called Sloan Memmorial Ketering Cancer Reasearch (SMKR) Center in New York.

In 1972 the SMKR commissioned their top senior cancer researcher to conduct tests over a 5 year period between 1972 and 1977and finally put an end to this laetrile quakery. They asked Dr Kanematsu Sugiura, their most senior researcher with over 60 years experience in cancer research and who had been under their employment since 1917 and totally dedicated to cancer research.

Dr Kanematsu Sugiura's work was trusted and his honesty and integrity was admired and unquestioned by all. Hundreds of Segiura's research papers were published. Dr Chester Stock, the Head of Sloan Kettering's laboratory-testing division even wrote:

"Few if any names in cancer research are as widely known as Kanematsu Segiura's....Possibly the highest regard in which his work is held is best characterised by a comment made to me by a visiting investigator in cancer research from Russia. He said "when Segiura publishes, we know we do not have to repeat the study, for we would obtain the same results he has reported"'.

At the conclusion of the trials, on June 15, 1977 the SMKCR released a press statement. Over 100 reporters and half a dozen film crews from the leading television stations had been assembled to hear the long awaited official verdict on laetrile from the worlds most prestigious cancer research centre. On the Dais were physicians with impeccable credentials. Dr Robert Good began to speak. After general remarks condemning laetrile and its use, he passed the microphone to Dr Stock. The same Doctor Chester Stock who had praised Segiura's work took the microphone and began describing the finer details of the testing. As his voice droned on... it was evident all eyes were on Dr Sugiura but he was not given the opportunity to speak.

The press release said,

"...laetrile was found to possess neither preventative, nor tumor-regressent, nor anti-metastatic, nor curative anticancer activity."

So that is it then, right? It does not get more adamant than that, we can close the book on Laetrile. Unfortunately for the boss' at Sloan Kettering there was a large fly in the ointment. When suddenly a journalist shouted

"Dr. Kenamatsu Sugiura" ;

"Do you stick by your belief that laetrile stops the spread of cancer?
He replied; "I stick."

Those two words must have been like knives to the accumulated demi-gods on the dais. The reason being is that Dr. Kanematsu Sugiura was the pre-eminent cancer researcher in America, probably the world, at this time. Dr. Sugiura had been researching cancer since 1911. It looked as if this quiet, highly respected researcher would slip quietly into anonymity. About ten years later, in the fall of 1972 he was asked by Sloan-Kettering to test Laetrile. Dr. Sugiura agreed. As Ralph Moss says in "The Cancer Industry";

"Because he had merely done what he was told and recorded what he saw, he lived to see old friends desert and berate him, a close relative fail to support him, and former colleagues derisively question his sanity and competence."

When asked "Why are they so much against it"? Dr Suigara answered "I don't know. Maybe the medical profession doesn't like it because they are making too much money."

Dr. Sugiura said, "The most interesting part is metastases. Secondary cancer growth to another location. When this mammary tumor grows to about two centimetres in diameter or more, about 80% develop lung metastases. But with treatment with laetrile/amygdalin, it's cut down to about 20%."

They didn't like it. Sugiura had to be proven wrong. But other researchers had obtained essentially the same positive results. Dr. Lloyd Schloen a biochemist at Sloan-Kettering had included proteolytic enzymes to his injections and reported 100% cure rate among his albino mice. This data had to be buried. They then then changed the protocols of the tests and amounts of Laetrile to make certain that they failed. Guess what, they failed, and that is what they reported.

The Conclusions of Sugiura's work were these:

1. Laetrile inhibited the growth of tumors
2. It stopped the spreading (metastasising) of cancer in mice
3. It relieved pain
4. It acted as a cancer preventative
5. It improved general health

Dr. Sugiura, with great courage, refused to accept this distortion of his factual record "I write what I see!" he declared. "Laetrile is a good palliative drug." He was hounded for doing so, a story Dr Ralph Moss tells in his book, The Cancer Industry. Dr Ralph Moss head of public relations at SMKR protested against this cover-up in numerous ways and he was fired in November, 1977 for "failing to carry out my most basic job responsibility, which means to lie when your boss tells you to".

Sloan-Ketterings motives were clearly revealed in the minutes of a meeting that top officials held on July 2, 1974. The discussions were private and candid. The only reason we know about them is that Representative John Kelsey, of the Michigan House of Representatives, obtained the minutes via a freedom of information act request some years later. The fact that numerous Sloan-Kettering officials were convinced of the effectiveness of amygdalin is obvious, they just weren't sure as to the extent of it's use. But they were not interested in further testing of this natural product. From "World Without Cancer"; The minutes read, quote,

"...Sloan-Kettering is not enthusiastic about studying amygdalin but would like to study CN (cyanide) releasing drugs."

Sloan-Kettering wanted a man-made patentable chemical to mimic the qualities found in amygdalin. That is where the money is. If a very effective cancer treatment or cure was found in the lowly apricot seed, it would spell economic disaster for the cancer industry.

Author Dr Ralph Moss worked at Sloan-Kettering during the amygdalin trials and went public on November 18, 1977, exposing the lies told by Sloan-Kettering about the laetrile/amygdalin trials. He was fired the next day.

http://www.b17.com.au/copy.asp?sect=q1&page=tested

Serpo
11th January 2011, 04:37 PM
Coconut sap vinegar has many healing properties that are not widely know and I met a healer in Asia who used this in his treatment in curing a lady of advanced cancer.


http://www.mixph.com/2010/08/processing-coconut-sap-into-sap-drink-syrup-vinegar.html

Kali
11th January 2011, 05:24 PM
Has B17 been tested by Modern Medicine?



It doesn't need to be.

If it worked people would be sharing the info. In this case, most who do are selling something.

The info out there by real people is very limited. Why? Because most who have tried it had no results. Nothing to talk about.

Heck, most stuff I read says B17 doesn't exist. It is a made up name.




"Everyone should know that most cancer research is largely a fraud…"



I agree.

Serpo
11th January 2011, 06:22 PM
Has B17 been tested by Modern Medicine?



It doesn't need to be.

If it worked people would be sharing the info. In this case, most who do are selling something.

The info out there by real people is very limited. Why? Because most who have tried it had no results. Nothing to talk about.

Heck, most stuff I read says B17 doesn't exist. It is a made up name.




"Everyone should know that most cancer research is largely a fraud…"



I agree.




Clamping down on B17 normally does the trick.......no info about it ....then they have done their job....

Vitamin B17 and Laetrile
by Joe Vialls


During 1950 after many years of research, a dedicated biochemist by the name of Dr. Ernst T. Krebs, Jr., isolated a new vitamin that he numbered B17 and called 'Laetrile'.

As the years rolled by, thousands became convinced that Krebs had finally found the complete control (not cure) for all cancers, a conviction that even more people share today.

Back in 1950 Ernst Krebs could have had little idea of the hornet's nest he was about to stir up. The pharmaceutical multinationals, unable to patent or claim exclusive rights to the vitamin, launched a propaganda attack of unprecedented viciousness against B17, despite the fact that hard proof of its efficiency in controlling all forms of cancer surrounds us in overwhelming abundance.

In his brilliantly researched 1974 book "World Without Cancer", researcher and author G. Edward Griffin explains the trophoblastic theory of cancer proposed by Professor John Beard of Edinburgh University, which states that certain pre-embryonic cells in pregnancy differ in no discernible way from highly-malignant cancer cells.

Edward Griffin continues:

"The trophoblast in pregnancy indeed does exhibit all the classical characteristics of cancer. It spreads and multiplies rapidly as it eats its way into the uterus wall preparing a place where the embryo can attach itself for maternal protection and nourishment."

The trophoblast is formed in a chain reaction by another cell that Griffin simplifies down to the 'total life' cell, which has the total capacity to evolve into any organ or tissue, or a complete embryo. When the total life cell is triggered into producing trophoblast by contact with the hormone estrogen, present in both males and females, one of two different things happens.

In the case of pregnancy the result is conventional development of a placenta and umbilical cord. If the trophoblast is triggered as part of a healing process however, the result is cancer.

As Edward Griffin cautions:

"To be more accurate, we should say it is cancer if the healing process is not terminated upon completion of its task."

Stunning proof of this claim is readily available. All trophoblast cells produce a unique hormone called the chorionic gonadotrophic (CGH) which is easily detected in urine. Thus if a person is either pregnant or has cancer, a simple CGH pregnancy test should confirm either or both.

It does, with an accuracy of better than 92% in all cases. If the urine sample shows positive it means either normal pregnancy or abnormal malignant cancer.

Griffin notes:

"If the patient is a woman, she is either pregnant or has cancer. If he is a man, cancer can be the only cause."

So why all of the expensive, dangerous biopsies carried to 'detect' cancerous growths? One can only assume that Medicare pays doctors a larger fee for biopsies than pregnancy tests.

So how is it that any of us gets cancer in the first place. Is it exposure to cigarette smoking, intense sunlight or perhaps the effect of toxic food additives? Dr. Krebs thinks not. All of the hard iochemical evidence points to the fact that cancer is a simple deficiency disease of vitamin B17, long ago removed from our highly refined, western diets. Krebs postulates that the so-called 'carcinogens' are merely stress triggers that finally expose the B17 deficiency with devastating effect

The proof Krebs has presented over the years to support his claim is impressive. Centuries ago we used to eat millet bread, rich in B17, but now we chew our way through wheat which has none at all. For generations our grandmothers used to carefully crush the seeds of plums, green grapes, cherries, apples, apricots and other members of the botanical family Rosaceae, and diligently mix them with their home made jams and preserves.

Grandma probably didn't know why she was doing it, but the seeds of all these fruits are the most potent source of B17 in the world. In the tropics, large quantities of B17 are found in cassava, also known as tapioca. When did you last eat some?

Independent research has also proved that a Himalayan tribe known as the 'Hunza' never contract cancer of any kind so long as they stick to their native diet which is exceptionally high in both apricots and millet. However, once exposed to western diets they become as vulnerable as the rest of us.

The implications of these findings are staggering of course. If we managed to control Scurvy (vitamin C deficiency) centuries ago, how is it we cannot do the same for cancer today? The fact of the matter is that we could if our respective governments would allow it.

Unfortunately most governments have buckled under the pressure exerted by the pharmaceutical multinationals, the American Food & Drug Administration, and the American Medical Association. All three have mounted highly successful 'scare' campaigns based on the fact that vitamin B17 contains quantities of 'deadly' cyanide; conveniently forgetting that vitamin B12 also contains significant quantities of cyanide, and has long been available in health food shops worldwide.

Dr. Kreb's B17 Laetrile was derived from apricot seeds and then synthesized into crystalline form using his own unique process. Suddenly, the American FDA bombarded the media with a story about an unfortunate couple who had poisoned themselves by eating raw apricot seeds in San Francisco. The story made headline news across the U.S.A. although several suspicious journalists never managed to establish the identity of the unfortunate couple, despite many determined attempts.

But the multinational pharmaceutical/FDA boot had been put in with a vengeance. From that point onwards eating apricot seeds or B17 Laetrile became synonymous with committing suicide.

Back in the fifties, Dr. Ernst Krebs proved beyond doubt that B17 was completely harmless to humans in the most convincing way possible. After testing the vitamin on animals, he filled a large hypodermic with a mega-dose which he then injected into his own arm! Drastic perhaps, but the adventurous Dr. Krebs is still alive and well today.

The vitamin B 17 is harmless to healthy tissue for a very simple reason:

Each molecule of B17 contains one unit of cyanide, one unit of benzaldehyde and two of glucose (sugar) tightly locked together.

In order for the cyanide to become dangerous it is first necessary to 'unlock' the molecule to release it, a trick that can only be performed by an enzyme called beta-glucosidase. This enzyme is present all over the body in minute quantities, but in huge quantities (up to 100 times as high) at cancerous tumor sites.

Thus the cyanide is released only at the cancer site with drastic results, which become utterly devastating to the cancer cells because the benzaldehyde unit also unlocks at the same time. Benzaldehyde is a deadly poison in its own right, which then acts synergistically with the cyanide to produce a poison 100 times more deadly than either in isolation. The combined effect on the cancer cells is best left to the imagination.

But what about danger to the rest of the body's cells?

Another enzyme, rhodanese, always present in larger quantities than the unlocking enzyme beta-glucosidase in healthy tissues has the easy ability to completely break down both cyanide and benzaldehyde into beneficial body products. Predictably perhaps, malignant cancer cells contain no rhodanese at all, leaving them completely at the mercy of the cyanide and benzaldehyde.

Any physician reading this article will probably be shaking with self-righteous indignation at this stage, muttering to himself:

"Yes, but where is the PROOF?"
Right here!

Most people have heard of 'spontaneous remission', where the cancer simply goes away, hopefully never to reappear. Spontaneous remissions are exceedingly rare and vary from one form of cancer to another.

One virulent variety known as testicular chorionepithelioma has never been known to produce a single spontaneous remission. Perhaps for that precise reason, Dr. Krebs singled it out for special attention when proving the effectiveness of B17 Laetrile in providing total control for cancers.

As Edward Griffin recounts:

"In a banquet speech in San Francisco on November 19, 1967, Dr. Ernst T. Krebs, Jr., briefly reviewed six such cases. Then he added: Now there is an advantage in not having had prior radiation, because if you have not received prior radiation that has failed, then you cannot enjoy the imagined benefits of the delayed effects of prior radiation. So this boy falls into the category of the "spontaneous regression... "

And when we look at this scientifically, we know that spontaneous regression occurs in fewer than one in 150,000 cases of cancer. The statistical possibility of spontaneous regression accounting for the complete resolution of successive cases of testicular chorionepithelioma is far greater than the statistical improbability of the sun not rising tomorrow morning.

Wisely perhaps, Griffin notes that because of the adverse publicity against B17 Laetrile, and because of the difficulties in obtaining the 'banned' substance, most cancer sufferers turn to the vitamin as a last resort, long after they have been burned by radiation therapy, and/or poisoned by chemotherapy. He points out that once the body organs have been savagely damaged in this way, there is little if any chance of B17 Laetrile being able to effect a cure. The body is simply too far gone.

B17 in Australia

When "World Without Cancer" was written back in 1974, B17 Laetrile was freely available in Australia. It is not now. A recent check with the Australian Cancer Foundation and health authorities revealed that nowadays Canberra considers each individual case on its merits, then decides whether the patient should be allowed to import sufficient of the material for his or her own personal use.

If he or she manages to jump that hurdle, it is then his or her own responsibility to find a doctor prepared to inject it. Seemingly the multinational pharmaceutical lobbyists managed to get to our politicians before Dr. Krebs could get to the Australian public. Radiation and chemotherapy are highly profitable, and oncologists have to make a decent living...

Only a few months ago Australian nationwide television carried the delightful information that two out of every three Australians can expect to suffer skin cancer at least once during their lifetimes. On the massive evidence provided by Dr. Ernst Krebs, Jr. and G. Edward Griffin, that figure could be crushed to a tiny percentage of the anticipated numbers if Australians were allowed freedom of choice where B17 Laetrile is concerned. It is time for Australians to take a stand on this lethal issue.

SOURCE

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Health_Concerns/Vitamin%20B17/vitamin_b17_and_laetrile.htm

Serpo
11th January 2011, 06:25 PM
Amygdalin
(Vitamin B-17)
Dr. Manuel D. Navarro M.D.
NUTRITIONAL ONCOLOGIST
http://www.b17superstore.com/

(This article was written by Dr. Navarro several years before he passed away in 1994.)


"The American FDA claims that Vitamin B17 is poisonous in its propaganda – this herbal medicine obtained from over 1,200 species of plants distributed all over the world."

"The FDA lied in its propaganda poster wherein it stated that B17 contains cyanide whish is half true. What it contains is the cyanide radical (CN) which needs to have an H ion before it becomes poisonous. The molecule of Vitamin B17 is in itself not poisonous until it is hydrolyzed or split by an enzyme called Beta glucosidase or glucuronidase (B.G). when B17 is injected into a cancerous patient, the B.G. around the cancer cells splits the B17 and the HCN produced diffuses into the cancer cells poisoning them, while the normal cells nearby are not poisoned due to the presence of an enzyme, rhodanese, - not found in the cancer cells. The rhodanese adds an Atom of Sulfur to the CN to form SCN, a very mild hypotensive."

"It was brought out in the American Court trying a doctor who used B17 for his cancerous patient that the FDA has a large list of accepted drugs produced in the United States that are generally regarded as safe (GRAS list). This Gras list contains Amygladin and Amygladin is synonymous with Laetrile, the trade name of Vitamin B17.

Since then the FDA in its shame has stopped using this ploy to downgrade the use of Vitamin B17 that is highly competitive with the various drug products of the drug cartels approved by the FDA although they are more toxic than SCN produced from B17. The reactions of the FDA approved drugs are vomiting, loss of appetite, lowering of blood count suppression of the bone marrow where the immune body defenses are formed with the red and white cells and platelets to the detriment of the patients. The approved drugs poison the cancer cells as well as the normal cells!"

"Orally, Vitamin B17 in the correct dosage of 2-4 grams a day for adult, in divided doses is very well tolerated. The intravenous administration of higher dosages does not produce any reaction. A baby girl of 4 months suffering from cancer of the adrenal that has spread to the liver, bones, etc, received Vitamin B17 per rectum and she got well her ailment. She celebrated her third birthday recently."
"The Mayo Clinic in the issue of the American Journal of the America Medical Association of February 13, 1981 declared Vitamin B17 is safe, orally or parentally in the correct dosages. In the 36 years of using it we have not met yet with any toxic reaction."

How does B17 kill cancer?
If you believe in God the logic of how B17 kills cancer will be easy to accept and understand when you realize that God has given our bodies a natural defense against cancer which is determined by the food or junk we eat in our diet. It is a perfect natural balance that God has designed and planned for us in the way we live. When we alter that natural life balance according to the way we choose to live, rather than the way He teaches us to live, it is then that disease becomes an issue in our lives.

If you don't believe in God the logic and science of how B17 kills cancer will be easy to accept, because all the enzymes' and scientific chemistry that occurs in the body are undisputed and are real. Any biochemist or toxicologist will confirm them. The FDA even commissioned a team of the worlds top cancer specialists and bio-chemists to conduct tests to see if Laetrile could kill cancer cells. The team found it did kill cancer!. The team were all sacked and the findings with-held and covered up.

So how does B17 kill cancer?...... Here we go....

Firstly we need to understand that our bodies use several enzymes to perform many tasks. Our body has one particular enzyme called Rhodanese which is found in large quantities throughout the body but is not present where ever there are cancer cells. Yet, where ever you find cancer in the body, you find another enzyme called Beta-Glycosidase. So, we have the enzyme Rhodanese found everywhere in the body except at the cancer cells, and we have the enzyme Beta-Glycosidase found in very large quantities only at the cancer cell but not found anywhere else in the body. If there is no cancer in the body there is no enzyme Beta-Glycosidase.

Now the following is what scares most people. You see, Vitamin B17 is made up of 2 parts glucose, 1 part Hydrogen Cyanide and 1 part Benzaldehyde(analgesic/painkiller). So its very important you understand the following:

When B17 is introduced to the body, it is broken down by the enzyme Rhodanese. The Rhodanese breaks the Hydrogen Cyanide and Benzaldehyde down into 2 by-products, Thiocyanate and Benzoic acid which are beneficial in nourishing healthy cells and forms the metabolic pool production for vitamin B12. Any excess of these by-products is expelled in normal fashion from the body via urine. Vitamin B17 passes through your body and does not last longer than 80 minutes inside your body as a result of the Rhodanese breaking it down. (Hydrogen Cyanide has been proven to be chemically inert and non toxic when taken as food or refined pharmaceutical such as laetrile. Sugar has be shown to be 20 times more toxic than B17 - see good & bad cyanide).

HERE IS THE GOOD PART - When the B17 comes into contact with cancer cells, there is no Rhodanese to break it down and neutrelise it but instead, only the enzyme Beta-Gucosidase is present in very large quantities. When B17 and Beta-Glucosidase come into contact with each other, a chemical reaction occurs and the Hydrogen Cyanide and Benzaldehyde combine synergistically to produce a poison which destroys and kills the cancer cells.

This whole process is known as selective toxicity. Only the cancer cells are specifically targeted and destroyed. See the diagram below.

That is how Vitamin B17 Kills Cancer. It has been proven and illustrated to work by the some of the top specialists in the world. Thats why the Contreras hospital in Mexico have been able over the LAST 30 YEARS to successfully treat over 100,000 cancer patients!!!



Treating The Cause Not the Symptom
Source: Alive and Well, Dr Philip E Binzel p133-139

The problem with many (not all) Doctors and Oncologists in todays society is that they have been trained to be "tumor orientated". They are lump and bump doctors with no training or understanding of how nutrition relates to disease. For example, when a patient is found to have tumor, all that is discussed seems to be what is going to be done about reducing the tumor. The emphasis is always on; how is the tumor doing? Rather than; "how is the patient doing?" When they administer chemo and radio therapy to the body aimed at reducing the tumor, it has been seen that as the tumor gets smaller and smaller the patient gets sicker and sicker. At an autopsy you would hear "Isn't it marvelous we have killed the tumor" - yes, but you also killed the patient in the process of killing the tumor. When will modern medicine accept that they are treating the wrong thing?

In primary cancer, with only a few exceptions the tumor is neither health endangering nor life threatening. What is health endangering and life threatening is THE SPREAD of cancer through the rest of the body. There is nothing in surgery today that will prevent the spread of cancer. There is nothing in chemotherapy or radiation that will prevent the spread of cancer. How do we know? Just look at the statistics.The survival time of a cancer patient today is no different to what it was 50 years ago. The only advancement in the last 50 years has been the improvement on ways to kill tumors via chemo and radio therapy.

The only thing known to mankind today that will prevent the spread of cancer within the body, is for that body's own defense mechanism to once again function normally. Thats what Nutritional Therapy does. It treats the defense mechanism, not the tumor. The tumor is simply a symptom not a cause. You need to treat the cause. If you take care of the body the body will take care of the tumor and the cancer.

The ultimate question then is, "Does nutritional therapy work?" The answer to this depends on how you define "work". If you are tumor orientated like most oncologists and doctors and are looking for something to make the tumor disappear, then No nutritional therapy does not work. If you are looking for something that will prevent the cancer from spreading and/or saving the life of a patient, then Yes, it does. A tumor is normally made up 10% cancer cells and the other 90% made from body tissue, so its common for the body not to attack it which is why you can rid yourself of cancer and stop its spread but still have a tumor for many years. Dr Binzel suggests if the tumor is easily accessible its normally ok to have it removed, but if its remote and not causing the patient any problem then he prefers to leave it alone.

The medical profession needs to realise they have been treating the wrong thing. They have been treating the symptom rather than the cause. They need to realise that as long as they continue to treat just the tumor alone they are going to get the same poor results they always have. We are just scratching the surface of our understanding of nutritional therapy, and over the last 30 years we have been able to see that nutritional therapy works in its treatment of cancer.

A word from Philip Binzel............

.....After all is said and done, the true measurement of a good physician is not necessarily how much he knows. It is instead, how willing he is to search for, find and use whatever forms of treatment, which in his opinion, will give his patients the very best chance to remain ALIVE AND WELL.


More about cancer click here!
Then WHY is B17 illegal?
The Answer: money

Because the pharmaceutical multinationals are unable to patent or claim exclusive rights to the vitamin B17, as it is derived from a natural source (The Prunus Amygdalis Rosacea family), the multinational pharmaceuticals launched and have continued to launch attacks of unprecedented vicious propaganda against B17 despite the hard proof of its effectiveness in controlling all forms of cancer which is available in overwhelming abundance

The cancer industry is a $200 Billion a year industry. That's right not $200 million but $200 BILLION !!!

Now if you had a large interest in such a huge market wouldn't you try to protect your industry and market share? Of course you would. And that's exactly what has happened and is happening today. Unfortunately we find ourselves living in a time where lies and deceit have been and are being used by government national bodies and foundations which were designed to research cures and treatments for cancer, not to focus on protecting their significant financial interest.

Did you know the wealthiest non profit institution on this planet is the American Cancer Society ?

Did you know the worlds largest private cancer center Sloan-Kettering Memorial Hospital (SKMH) was established by Wall Streets top Banks and Corporations including a large interest from the Rockefellers. In today's society do the major corporations and banks place people before profit? Of course not!! Every day our newspapers in Australia tell us a story where our Banks and major corporations are putting profit before people.

Did you know that the major generous donators and financial contributors to the Sloan-Kettering Memorial Hospital include all the major chemical companies that actually supply the chemotherapy and drugs used to treat patients at the hospital !

Companies such as Bristol Myers spend over $1 billion dollars annually on cancer research to improve or introduce new chemo drugs. Bristol Myers supplies over half the worlds chemotherapy drugs. So they have a significant interest in the cancer industry. So significant is their interest that the board members that chair the largest cancer drug and chemical companies also chair or are board members of all the major cancer institutes. Funny that, one would think there is a conflict of interest here. They get around this simply by either not taking a salary or making it a voluntary position with the cancer centres. After all, the chemical companies pay them more than enough for being board members of the chemical companies themselves. For example Paul A Marks who is president and CEO of the Sloan-Kettering Memorial Hospital and is also Director of Pfizer which manufactures chemotherapy and cancer related drugs.

Also James Robinson is a board member of the Sloan-Kettering Memorial Hospital and also a Director of Bristol Myers one of the largest suppliers of cancer chemotherapy and other cancer drugs. You will find most of the executives that chair or are board members of all the top cancer organizations also chair or are affiliated with one or more of the major cancer drug multinationals. As mentioned, they get around this conflict of interest most of the time by not taking a salary from either the research center or the drug company. Either way its a huge conflict of interest in my view.

This is why the Sloan-Kettering Memorial Hospital(SKMH), National Cancer Institute(NCI), American Cancer Society(ACS), Food and Drug Administration(FDA) & the AMA are involved together to ensure they persecute and squeeze out any threats to their market. Even if it costs millions of lives and even if the therapy works, if its a threat they will stamp it out..

It is scary to know that the very government regulatory agencies themselves, such as the US Food & Drug Administration and Britain's Medicines Control Agency, which are supposed to protect the public from potentially dangerous products coming onto the market are horribly compromised because of ties with the chemical/drug industries that make cancer drugs. A USA TODAY analysis of financial conflicts at 159 FDA advisory committee meetings from 1st January - 30th June 2000 found that at 55% of their meetings, more than half of the FDA advisors had conflicts of interest!!! Click here for full story

These cancer organizations are run by business leaders, bankers and board members of the cancer drug companies that supply chemotherapy drugs to the market. Because many of today's known carcinogens are by-products of profitable industries of which these same board members have financial interests in, their aim is to prevent cancer preventions and prevent any natural or non chemical therapy from entering the market. Its a perfect Cartel between these giants of big business. John Reed a director of SKMH is also a director of tobacco giant Philip Morris.

For example... The way the current system is setup thanks to the FDA and AMA, did you know it now costs over $100 million to develop a new drug in America. They have literally setup a monopoly situation. Its a poker game and the ante is $100 million if you want to play.

In 1982 Dr Richard Crout of the FDA made his agency's position very clear:

"I never have and never will approve a new drug to an individual, but only to a large pharmaceutical firm with unlimited finances".

The problem here is the processing of Laetrile cannot be patented. Its a natural product. you can't make millions or huge profits like cancer drugs generate. As Edward G Griffin puts it "So no substance from nature will ever be legally available for cancer unless its source can be monopolized. No matter how safe and effective it may be, and no matter how many people may have benefited, it will forever be regulated to the category of unproven therapies making them illegal to prescribe, to promote and to use".

Laetrile and all other natural products used in treating cancer are a threat to their profits.

This is why laetrile is Illegal.

Don't believe it? Research it for yourself!

milehi
11th January 2011, 06:31 PM
I picked these up today and will start a daily maintenance dose tomorrow.

http://www.seacoast.com/supplement/rainbow-acres-raw-apricot-kernels-1052

Serpo
11th January 2011, 06:35 PM
Web site to cure zone where people talk about it...

http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&client=pub-0846790371736460&cof=FORID:1%3BGL:1%3BLBGC:336699%3BLC:%230000ff%3B VLC:%23663399%3BGFNT:%230000ff%3BGIMP:%230000ff%3B DIV:%23336699%3B&domains=curezone.com&sitesearch=curezone.com&oe=ISO-8859-1&&sa=X&ei=lgQtTcnsNc_CcZmcia4I&ved=0CAQQBSgA&q=laetrile&spell=1

Serpo
11th January 2011, 06:39 PM
I picked these up today and will start a daily maintenance dose tomorrow.

http://www.seacoast.com/supplement/rainbow-acres-raw-apricot-kernels-1052


They mention 5 a day as a maintenance dose, healthy snack also...

view by Raymond
I have had the pleasure years ago to have a very conversation with Dr. Krebs who discovered B17. He explained to me as well as my Father in Law a Orthopedic Surgeon that there was 3 diferent ways to \"treat Cancer\" , none of them a sure thing and that in his opinion more arm came from those tretments and that we should eat 5 Apricot kernels a day for Cancer prevention and if Cancer was present 10 kernels a day and NO MEAT of any kind. A book discussing this subject has been discontinued............it was called \"Life without cancer\", explaining the research made in the Far east and with American Indian food habits .......the conclusion was that cancer was a \"nutitional imbalance \", that the Apricot kernels contained Cianide that would \"eat the cancer cells\". This was the beggining of using \"laetril\" and the end of it ..........no money in a product that can prevent a deadly desease that is now treated at huge cost and not so good results. But the research was stopped and the rest is History. As for myself and my family we have ben using * Kernels a day with breakfast for the last 25 years . Raymond Bouchayer

Kali
11th January 2011, 10:01 PM
I've seen all the info you posted before Serpo. Same old info by a couple of sources. Its all basically copy and pasted. Mainly from Griffin and his book.

Got any sources/proof of cancer being cured besides apricot kernel resellers?

Yeah, I hear some say "I been eating them for years and never had any problems".

Well, I drank hard liquor for 20 years straight and I feel healthy as can be too.

Kali
11th January 2011, 10:06 PM
But the research was stopped and the rest is History.


If it worked you wouldn't need research. All you need is the internet.

If it worked it would spread like wildfire across the web.

Heck, an old white guy beating down a drunk black man on a bus made it around the world in a matter of 1 day.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
12th January 2011, 01:09 AM
The first 10 hits on google, scroogle, and ixquick are 10/10 positive for this cure working.

http://health.centreforce.com/health/krebs.html

http://www.cancervictors.net/resources/news.asp?filteryear=2008&filtermonth=11 <---- Third article down, Nov 15 2008
Taking apricot seeds works to prevent 'bad' cells in your body from forming, thus strengthening your immune system. Apricot seeds have the toxin cyanide as part of their structure; this cyanide, though, is only released when the amygdalin of the apricot seeds comes into contact with a 'bad' cell in your body. At that point, the cyanide works to destroy the bad cell.

If you take apricot seeds on a regular basis, your body will remain detoxified and free of the 'bad' cells that commonly cause the more serious types of illnesses, including cancer.

http://www.whale.to/cancer/krebs_h.html


"After presenting a rather effective lecture on cancer…the windshield was shot out of my car on the road back to San Francisco. The next night the glass window in the tail gate was shot out (300 miles removed from the first shooting). The police said, 'maybe someone is trying to tell you something'. The late Arthur Harris, M.D. was threatened by two men with assassination if he continued to use laetrile. Since that time we have de-centralised the work so that, if any two of us are shot out of the saddle, it will have only a slight negative effect on the program."---Dr. Krebs


How many cancer cured people do I need to find for you to believe me. 200 ? I am sure I can find that across the net, and I am sure of this because the chatter is there. I searched, and people ARE saying it works. You tell me why this cure scares the crap out of medical-industrial complex. You tell me why they will not allow a double-blind study.

When a study is blocked by law, you aren't going to tell me about what it is or isn't.

Kali
12th January 2011, 01:43 AM
The first 10 hits on google, scroogle, and ixquick are 10/10 positive for this cure working.

http://health.centreforce.com/health/krebs.html

http://www.cancervictors.net/resources/news.asp?filteryear=2008&filtermonth=11 <---- Third article down, Nov 15 2008
Taking apricot seeds works to prevent 'bad' cells in your body from forming, thus strengthening your immune system. Apricot seeds have the toxin cyanide as part of their structure; this cyanide, though, is only released when the amygdalin of the apricot seeds comes into contact with a 'bad' cell in your body. At that point, the cyanide works to destroy the bad cell.

If you take apricot seeds on a regular basis, your body will remain detoxified and free of the 'bad' cells that commonly cause the more serious types of illnesses, including cancer.

http://www.whale.to/cancer/krebs_h.html


"After presenting a rather effective lecture on cancer…the windshield was shot out of my car on the road back to San Francisco. The next night the glass window in the tail gate was shot out (300 miles removed from the first shooting). The police said, 'maybe someone is trying to tell you something'. The late Arthur Harris, M.D. was threatened by two men with assassination if he continued to use laetrile. Since that time we have de-centralised the work so that, if any two of us are shot out of the saddle, it will have only a slight negative effect on the program."---Dr. Krebs


How many cancer cured people do I need to find for you to believe me. 200 ? I am sure I can find that across the net, and I am sure of this because the chatter is there. I searched, and people ARE saying it works. You tell me why this cure scares the crap out of medical-industrial complex. You tell me why they will not allow a double-blind study.

When a study is blocked by law, you aren't going to tell me about what it is or isn't.




Krebs and Griffin and the main guys making any big claims about the science behind this. Most everything else is copied from them.

Example:

The first link you posted:

http://health.centreforce.com/health/krebs.html

It's text is copied from countless other websites (or they copied from them).

Taking one line from their site brings up well over 100 other websites in Google.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1280&bih=555&q=%22The+fact+that+cancer+is+a+metabolic+disease%2 C+what+role+does+pollution+have+in+that+process%3F %22&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=f&oq=&gs_rfai=

So you can say, there are 140 websites all "backing up this cure".

Now on to your 2nd link:

"http://www.cancervictors.net/resources/news.asp?filteryear=2008&filtermonth=11 <---- Third article down"

Google shows 188 results for copied text on that article.

I can go on and on. Same old info being copied to other websites for content purposes mainly.

You say "The first 10 hits on google, scroogle, and ixquick are 10/10 positive for this cure working."

Thats due to something called "SEO".

The folks who make these websites know how to get them ranked higher.

I just searched for apricot seeds cure cancer and I get a bunch of sites that add this content for SEO purposes to drive traffic to their sites for advertising revenue. Some are pretty slick about it too as thats part of the SEO game.




How many cancer cured people do I need to find for you to believe me. 200 ?



You haven't found me any yet. Start with one.



I am sure I can find that across the net, and I am sure of this because the chatter is there. I searched, and people ARE saying it works.


What people are saying this works? People on forums and blogs? Most blog posts are spam, again, for SEO purposes. It's called building backlinks. Did you know that a good chunk of blog posts are "paid posts" meaning someone is paying them to make blog posts all over the net. Many of these are outsourced too.

Forums? By who? Resellers making it sound good as they know people will find these postings in Google so they can later rank high for "apricot seeds" and sell product?

I know of numerous website owners that pay people to have fake forum identities to later work in their product details and links.

But even if that isn't the case, so what...there are boatloads of liars online. Plus we do not know their facts. Were they also trying anything else? Etc.

Got any real cases by proven real people, doctors, scientists, that aren't in the same hand trying to sell you something?

Heck, I'll tell you that this is the cure if you buy some seeds through my Amazon affiliate link.

Again, I believe in natural medicine and know that the FDA is crooked but from what I've seen with this apricot cancer cure so far is quackery.

Serpo
12th January 2011, 01:48 AM
I've seen all the info you posted before Serpo. Same old info by a couple of sources. Its all basically copy and pasted. Mainly from Griffin and his book.

Got any sources/proof of cancer being cured besides apricot kernel resellers?

Yeah, I hear some say "I been eating them for years and never had any problems".

Well, I drank hard liquor for 20 years straight and I feel healthy as can be too.



Im not sure what book you are talking about but you maybe right.

Look you are right, these kernels are not the answer but may help as a preventative measure and also a person can take them if they have cancer.
But the real way this was treated was by a doctor in USA who treated people with B17 but it wasnt given until weeks after he started treatment on them by building up their nutrition that he would give them laetrile.
His success rate was some staggering high % when compared with the normal chemo and radiation.Why wasnt this picked up and used ,instead they attacked this guy in court but his success rate was a real improvement.
This sort of thing makes me mad.There are many other cancer cures out there and this is just one area B17 and cancer is the most famous.

If you wish to see what some other people think go to above web site connection,have just added that it goes to cure zone and different people have their experiences listed there.I have no idea what they say.The kernels by them selves cannot be the sole hope of fixing cancer.




THERE really is a lot more to curing cancer then just taking apricot kernals and hope they work.

Im glad you are still healthy, its just something that not every one has as of course you know.

Serpo
12th January 2011, 02:00 AM
What about this treatment....ever think it will make it.....highly doubtful.
Posted earlier in thread....

Medicine is controlled ,why do you think we just have chemo and radiation treatment.Its been around for years, its a joke ,except the joke is on us.
No improvements in treatment from mainstream medicine on this forever,this is all they have and it dosnt work very well.


CANCER patients are offering themselves as human guinea pigs as researchers investigate a possible cure for cancer that was found in north Queensland rainforests.

Scientists have identified a compound in the fruit of the native blushwood shrub that appears to "liquefy and destroy cancer with no side-effects", according to latest research.

Found deep in the remnants of a 130 million-year-old rainforest, the fruit extract may yet hold the secret antidote to Australia's No.1 killer disease.

Victoria Gordon, of EcoBiotics, an Atherton Tableland-based company, said they hoped to go to human clinical trials later this year.

Dr Gordon said a single dose injection of the extract, known as EBC-46, had been effective in 50 critically ill dogs and about a dozen cats and horses.

"This is proving to be something exceptional," she said.

"The tumour literally liquefies.

"There is a rapid knock-down of the tumour, it disintegrates within 24 hours and we have a rapid healing response.

"The biggest tumour we treated was the size of a Coke can in a dog, and that animal is fully healed and healthy."

Dr Gordon said it had worked on skin cancers, such as carcinomas and melanomas, and bone cancer, and was a possible treatment for breast, colon and prostate cancer.

But she warned wannabe human guinea pigs against seeking under-the-table treatment.

She said it was "immoral, illegal, and unscientific" to seek to be administered the drug before approval, likely to take up to seven years, by the Therapeutic Goods Administration.

"We have been inundated with calls – it shows there is such a need for a breakthrough in anti-cancer treatment," she said. "Most people understand when we explain the situation."

Former breast cancer sufferer Mena Crew, 65, said many dying of cancer would "do anything for a miracle cure".

"We would all like a magic cure, that would be wonderful, and I hope in my lifetime we find it," the breast cancer support volunteer said.

She has worked with more than 200 sufferers and some victims in her role with the Cancer Council Queensland.

"I don't want to kill the enthusiasm of all the wonderful research, but until it is proven it will do the job, we recommend they go with proven and conventional treatments," she said.

"It is good, however, to think the secret antidote may be growing in the jungle above Cairns."

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/possible-cancer-cure-found-in-blushwood-shrub/story-e6freoof-1225826874057

oldmansmith
12th January 2011, 06:39 AM
Thanks Serpo, this tells all:

"She said it was "immoral, illegal, and unscientific" to seek to be administered the drug before approval, likely to take up to seven years, by the Therapeutic Goods Administration."


Much better to get irradiated, have your hair fall out, vomit and then die rather than try something before it has been "approved."

Kali
12th January 2011, 10:28 AM
I know if I had cancer chemo would be the last thing I tried. I would have to be on my death bed with no other options.

I would probably try some kind of long term fast first.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
12th January 2011, 12:45 PM
Well your points are certainly fair about SEO pushing results to the front.

However I am more likely to believe a medical-industry conspiracy to keep people sick and in pain,

before I am about to believe a griffith conspiracy to get rich

selling raw apricots seeds

for $8.95/pound.

Cobalt
12th January 2011, 01:06 PM
My brother in law was diagnosed with prostate cancer, his primary care doctor set him up with a bunch of meetings with specialists in the field.

The surgery boys say surgery is the only ticket

The radiation boys say the specific treatment they offer is the only ticket be it radioactive capsule insertion or pinpoint zapping depending on what they sell.

None of them talk much about the cons to their treatment but are quick to point out the cons of the others form of treatment and none of them have suggested perhaps the others treatment may be a better option.

It's like going to a Toyota dealer and only hearing how superior Toyota is over all makes, you will only get a one sided story.

Kali
12th January 2011, 04:01 PM
Well your points are certainly fair about SEO pushing results to the front.

However I am more likely to believe a medical-industry conspiracy to keep people sick and in pain,

before I am about to believe a griffith conspiracy to get rich


Medical-industry conspiracy is certain but in the case of you finding the top 10 results in those search engines positive for apricot seeds has nothing to do with conspiracy. Not one bit. It's 100% about SEO and website owners making a buck.

Serpo
12th January 2011, 04:10 PM
Thanks Serpo, this tells all:

"She said it was "immoral, illegal, and unscientific" to seek to be administered the drug before approval, likely to take up to seven years, by the Therapeutic Goods Administration."


Much better to get irradiated, have your hair fall out, vomit and then die rather than try something before it has been "approved."



Dont think they have much choice ,the PTB have 7 years to throw this on the scrap heap.So called testing takes 7 years.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
12th January 2011, 10:33 PM
In this case of impasse, I move that we plan several double-blind studies to shed some light on this subject. Given the fairly simple nature of the starting ingredients, local colleges should easily be able to handle the task at a very lost cost.


The FDA will bring guns against you if you do this.... ^^^^

Kali
19th January 2011, 01:13 PM
I have 2 friends with cancer now taking apricot seeds. One with breast cancer, one with liver cancer.

Just ordered some from Swanson Products.

I'll see how it works in real life.

Awoke
19th January 2011, 01:38 PM
I mentioned this to my sister (a doctor) and she said there was no evidence.




Doctors are inculcated in institutions that are operated by TPTB.
She probably doesn't know that Fasting can cure any disease either.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
19th January 2011, 05:00 PM
I have 2 friends with cancer now taking apricot seeds. One with breast cancer, one with liver cancer.

Just ordered some from Swanson Products.

I'll see how it works in real life.


That's how I roll, too. Live testing.

Cebu_4_2
19th January 2011, 05:49 PM
I remember reading that the sun dried ones get the good stuff baked off!

I posted earlier a place that claims to be non sun dried. The nuts are not quite as bitter as the ones I got a while ago. With the packages at also says not to freeze them but refrigerate.

Serpo
19th January 2011, 07:24 PM
Drs Research with B17
In 1962, Dr. John Morrone reported his results from using Laetrile with 10 patients suffering from "inoperable cancer." The treatments ranged from 4 to 43 weeks in length, and a range of 9 to 133 gms Laetrile was given through intravenous injections. Morrone concluded his report: "The use of Laetrile... in 10 cases of inoperable cancer, all with metastases, provided dramatic relief of pain, discontinuance of narcotics, control of fetor [stench from a tumor], improved appetite, and reduction of adenopathy [swollen lymph nodes]. The results suggest regression of the malignant lesion.... No other side effects [other than transient episodes of low blood pressure] were noted except slight itching and a sensation of heat in the affected areas, which was transitory in all cases."

In 1994, P.E. Binzel published his results from treating cancer patients with Laetrile between 1974 and 1991. He used a combination of intravenous and oral Laetrile. Intravenous doses started with 3 gms and worked up to 9 gms. After a period of months, oral Laetrile, 1 gm at bedtime, was begun in place of the injections. Binzel also used various nutrient supplements and pancreatic enzymes, as well as a low animal-protein, no junk-food diet as part of his regimen. Out of a series of 180 patients with primary cancer (non-metastasized, confined to a single organ or tissue), 138 were still alive in 1991 when he compiled his treatment results. At that time, 58 of the patients had been followed for 2 to 4 years, while 80 had a medical follow-up from 5 to 18 years. Of the 42 patients who had died by 1991, 23 died from their cancers, 12 from unrelated causes, and 7 died of "cause unknown".

Among his metastatic cancer patients, 32 of 108 died from their disease, while 6 died of unrelated causes, and 9 died of "cause unknown". Of his 61 patients still alive in 1991, 30 had a follow-up between 2 and 4 years, while 31 had been followed for 5 to 18 years.

Binzel's results are impressive. Some of the individual patients discussed in his book were still alive (and well!) 15-18 years after their initial Laetrile treatment. Binzel also notes that none of the cancer diagnoses were made by him (a small town, "family doctor") - all patients had diagnoses from other physicians. Many had already suffered the ravages of standard "cut-bum-and poison" (surgery/X-ray/chemotherapy) medicine before being given up as hopeless cases by orthodox doctors.

Other physicians who have worked with Laetrile have also reported favorable results using it.

Manuel Navarro, M.D., former professor of medicine and surgery at the Univ. of Santo Tomas in Manilla wrote in 1971:

" I... have specialized in oncology [the study of tumors] for the past eighteen years. For the same number of years I have been using Laetrile-amygdalin in the treatment of my cancer patients. During this eighteen year period I have treated a total of over five hundred patients with Laetrile-amygdalin by various routes of administration, including the oral and the I.V. The majority of my patients receiving Laetrile-amygdalin have been in a terminal state when treatment with this material commenced. It is my carefully considered clinical judgment, as a practicing oncologist and researcher in this field, that I have obtained most significant and encouraging results with the use of Laetrile-amygdalin in the treatment of terminal cancer patients, and that these results are comparable or superior to the results I have obtained with the use of the more toxic standard cytotoxic agents."

Burton Goldberg Many of the physicians whose anti-cancer programs are detailed in Burton Goldberg's 1116 page Alternative Medicine Definitive Guide to Cancer also report positive Laetrile results as part of their cancer treatment programs.

Robert Atkins, M.D., notes that "Amygdalin appears to neutralize the oxidative cancer-promoting compounds such as free radicals.... It's just one more key component for keeping cancer from growing or spreading. Contrary to what people have said about Laetrile... it should be considered an effective, entirely ' safe treatment for all types of cancer."

Dr. Emesto Contreras has used Laetrile as a cornerstone of his cancer practice since 1963. He remarks that "For the prevention of cancer and the maintenance of remission, there is nothing as effective as Laetrile.... Its nontoxicity permits its use indefinitely while surgery, radiation and chemotherapy can only be administered for a limited time.... the majority of cancers that occur more frequently, such as cancers of the lung, breast, colon, ovaries, stomach, esophagus, prostate, and the lymphomas, are much helped by Laetrile."

Dr. Michael Schachter, who has used Laetrile for 20 years with cancer patients, remarks that "As part of a comprehensive health-enhancing program, amygdalin is a useful natural; substance for fighting cancer." Dr. Schachter recommends using cysteine (N-acetyl cysteine is a better-absorbed form of cysteine) along with amygdalin, to maximize the body's ability to detoxify any cyanide released from the Laetrile.

Dr. Douglas Brodie also uses Laetrile to treat his cancer patients. "After years of observing patients using amygdalin, we can say with complete assurance that it is neither toxic nor worthless.... Nor do we find it to be a cure or panacea for cancer. The experience of our clinic... is that amygdalin has the ability to improve the patient's sense of well-being, relieve the pain of cancer, and reduce the requirement for pain medicine."

Dr. Hans Nieper is a world famous oncologist and the developer of the standard anti-cancer cytotoxic drug cyclophosphamide. In 1970 he co-authored a brief paper on Laetrile with Dean Burk, in which they stated that "...in the treatment of cancer, the active principle of nitrilosides is to be used mainly in prophylaxis [prevention] and early protective therapy.... On the other hand, the complete atoxicity [lack of toxicity] of this method of treatment, which is maybe nothing else but a rediscovered natural principle, permits the unlimited use of this substance". (18) In 1972 Nieper told reporters while in the U.S.: "After more than 20 years of such specialized work, I have found the non-toxic Nitrilosides - that is, Laetrile - far superior to any other known cancer treatment or preventive. In my opinion it is the only existing possibility for the ultimate control of cancer". (11)

It should thus be clear that among doctors who have worked with Laetrile, its anti-cancer effect is highly regarded. The combination of epidemiological evidence, animal studies and informed clinical opinion supports the belief that Laetrile has significant anti-cancer effect. This is perhaps why the anti-laetrile medical establishment has focused on scaring people away from Laetrile use through the "great cyanide scare."

"You wouldn’t believe how many FDA officials or relatives or acquaintances of FDA officials come to see me as patients in Hanover. You wouldn’t believe this, or directors of the AMA, or ACA, or the presidents of orthodox cancer institutes. That’ s the fact."
Hans Nieper M.D.
(1928-1998)


Southern Research Institute (Birmingham Alabama), for the NCI, in a majority of 280 BDF1 mice bearing Lewis lung cancers, treated with up to 400 mg Laetrile (Amygdalin MF) per kg body weight, with respect to increased median life span (Dec 3, 1973).

Sloan Kettering (New York) with CD8 F1 mice bearing spontaneous mammary carcinomas, inhibition of formation of lung metastases, inhibition of growth of primary tumours, and greater health and appearance of animal hosts, upon treatment with 1-2 gm Laetrile/per kg body weight/day. (June 13, 1973)

Scind Laboratories, University of San Francisco, 400 rats bearing Walker 256 carcinoma (200 treated with Amygdalin, 200 controls), with 80% increase in life span at optimum dosage. "The data provided by the McNaughton Foundation certainly indicates some activity in animal tumour systems" (emphasis added). [This is a typical medical understatement]

Pasteur Institute (Paris), with human cancer strain maintained in mice, treated at optimal dosage of 500 mg Amygdalin Marsan/kg body weight/day, increased life span and delayed tumour growth up to 100% (Dec 6, 1971).

Institute von ardenne (Dresden, Germnay), H strain mice bearing Ehrlich ascites carcinoma treated with bitter almond amygdalin ad libitum in addition to regular chow diet, yielded increased life span and decreased rate of cancer growth, treatment beginning 15 days before cancer inoculation (arch. Geschwulstorsch. 42, 135-7 (1973).

ANIMAL LAETRILE TESTS

There have been various animal studies that suggest an anti-cancer effect from Laetrile. The SCIND Laboratories in California conducted several experiments [with Laetrile]. In their second study on carcinoma of rats (Walker 256), with amygdalin in doses of 500 milligrams per kilogram injected intraperitoneally on days one, three and six after [transplanted] tumor take, the following results were found:

DAYS SURVIVAL TIME (number of days)
Controls: 19,19,19,19,20,20,22,22,22,22,24,24,24,25,25,26,26 , 26,26
Treated: 27,28,28,28,29,29,29,30,30,30,30,30.31,32,32,32,60 , 60,60,60

The mean survival time of the control rats was thus 23 days. With the amygdalin-treated rats, mean survival time was 38 days, i.e. a 70% increase over the controls. The survival time of every Laetrile-treated animal was greater than that of every control animal.

" ...in a test by Dr. Paul Reitnauer, chief biochemist of the Manfred von Ardenne Institute, Dresden (East Germany), 20 of 40 H-strain mice were given bitter almonds in addition to their standard diet. Bitter almonds contain relatively high levels of Laetrile. Fifteen days after initiation of this regimen, all 40 mice were inoculated with 1 million Ehriich ascites [cancer] cells. The 20 control mice lived an average of 21.9 days following this injection. The 20 mice receiving the bitter almond supplement lived an average of 25.8 days, which was statistically significant...."

" In 1977, Dr. Vern L. van Breeman of Salisbury State College, Maryland, reported that the addition of apricot kernels [rich in Laetrile] to standard food in pilot experiments with special strains of mice bred to develop breast cancer and leukemia showed impressive differences both in terns of developing the disease and increased survival times between the animals that [ate] the kernels and those that did not. When he reported his early findings... seven of the animals in the leukemia control group and five in the breast cancer [control] group had died, while none of the mice on the kernels had. Ultimately only one of the mammary cancer mice developed a slow-growing tumor, and, while the leukemia results were less impressive in terms of total symptoms, leukemia-prone mice that ate apricot kernels enjoyed life extensions up to 50% over what would normally be expected."

Veteran cancer researcher Kanematsu Sugiura (who had a 4-volume set of his collected scientific papers published in 1965) performed three sets of experiments between September 1972 and June 1973 "to determine the effects of amygdalin...upon mice with spontaneous mammary tumors." In an internal report to his colleagues at Sloan-Kettering Institute, he said that "The results clearly show that amygdalin significantly inhibits the appearance of lung metastases in mice bearing spontaneous mammary tumors and increases significantly the inhibition of the growth of the primary tumor over the appearance of inhibition in the untreated animals."

These are just some of the Laetrile animal studies yielding positive results, while they hardly prove Laetrile to be a "cure" for cancer (which scientific Laetrile proponents have never claimed it to be), they clearly evidence some anti-cancer effect.
http://www.b17.com.au/copy.asp?sect=q2&page=drs&total=8449&scaleBanner=[type+Function]&resizeListener=[object+Object]&bgColour=2517167&initImg=[type+Function]&initBG=[type+Function]

Shami-Amourae
19th January 2011, 07:37 PM
I have 2 friends with cancer now taking apricot seeds. One with breast cancer, one with liver cancer.

Just ordered some from Swanson Products.

I'll see how it works in real life.


Please let us know, I'd like to know if it works or not too. It worked for a former employee of mine, but I don't know if it was just a coincidence or what. More successful cases means it more than likely works.

Kali
2nd February 2011, 03:31 AM
I have 2 friends with cancer now taking apricot seeds. One with breast cancer, one with liver cancer.

Just ordered some from Swanson Products.

I'll see how it works in real life.


Just as an update...the one with breast cancer doesn't want to try this and the other I have not been able to get the seeds to yet. Maybe in a week or two...hope Im not too late but just busy and January blew by so fast I almost can't remember it.

Hes taking some chemo pills and not sure he'll stop taking them. He also has Hep B so that might get him too.

Will see how this goes.

wrs
2nd February 2011, 07:00 AM
While I was doing chemo and radiation to shrink my tumor, I also ate three apples a day cores and all as well as half a cup of raspberries. The raspberry seeds have ellagic acid in them which is a cancer fighter and the apple seeds have the nitrilosides which metabolize to cyanide in the presence of beta glucosidase which is found in cancer cells.

One of the reasons my cancer surgery was successful is because the tumor shrank a significant amount. Now the chemo and radiation are supposed to do that but I apparently got more than expected. I almost didn't have the surgery because of it but the doctor told me that I would have scarring which could lead to blockage if the tumor wasn't removed.

Anyway, my experience isn't conclusive but I think the seeds helped.

Awoke
2nd February 2011, 11:22 AM
Apricot seeds are not "the cure" for cancer.

To say such a thing is moronic.

There are many different types of cancers and many different causes and many different stages.

If apricot seeds were curing cancers even a fraction of the time then word of mouth would spread this cure and the FDA can't control that.

Hardly anyone has heard of this "cure" because it didn't work for most that have tried it.

Online research will show this is the case.

The ones that it did work for are the ones selling the books and Laetrile.






That is not entirely true.
There are hundreds of documented cases where a strict water fast has revered and cures all sorts and forms of cancer, and evne with me telling everyone I know, the word is not getting around like wildfire.

Kali
2nd February 2011, 01:05 PM
Apricot seeds are not "the cure" for cancer.

To say such a thing is moronic.

There are many different types of cancers and many different causes and many different stages.

If apricot seeds were curing cancers even a fraction of the time then word of mouth would spread this cure and the FDA can't control that.

Hardly anyone has heard of this "cure" because it didn't work for most that have tried it.

Online research will show this is the case.

The ones that it did work for are the ones selling the books and Laetrile.






That is not entirely true.
There are hundreds of documented cases where a strict water fast has revered and cures all sorts and forms of cancer, and evne with me telling everyone I know, the word is not getting around like wildfire.


I'm a believer of water fasting for all kinds of things but that option is one that is more extreme and much more difficult than eating a few seeds a day. Even it worked, how many can accomplish such a task? I struggle doing it for 2 days.

But I hear ya though...

Awoke
3rd February 2011, 09:57 AM
I'm a believer of water fasting for all kinds of things but that option is one that is more extreme and much more difficult than eating a few seeds a day. Even it worked, how many can accomplish such a task? I struggle doing it for 2 days.

But I hear ya though...






I hear you too man. It's a major mental committment, but once you commit, it's smooth sailing.
The hardest part is the first 48 hours, and the detoxification that happens around the 48 hour mark.

After that, no issues. I have fasted for up to 20 days before. The only thing I noticed is I have to dress warmer because my body doesn't genereate heat as much, so Ifind I get cold easy.

Low Pan
3rd March 2011, 01:39 PM
posting for a tag, looked around awhile for this thread ;D

mick silver
3rd March 2011, 04:24 PM
bring it back up