View Full Version : Not much more to say but.....wow!
bellevuebully
10th January 2011, 08:06 AM
I didn't post this in Religion because I think all here would agree that this is something all should see, regardless of spiritual belief. Hope everyone is ok with that. Mods....move to religion if you deem necessary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_3BEwpv0dM
James 1:27
27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
Antonio
10th January 2011, 08:56 AM
Beautiful and deeply touching but completely inappropriate for this forum. 99.999% of the members here prefer barter.
JJ.G0ldD0t
10th January 2011, 09:41 AM
Beautiful and deeply touching but completely inappropriate for this forum. 99.999% of the members here prefer barter.
i hit the wrong thank u button....
sirgonzo420
10th January 2011, 09:44 AM
Hey JJ!
Don't be such a stranger!
Antonio
10th January 2011, 09:47 AM
Beautiful and deeply touching but completely inappropriate for this forum. 99.999% of the members here prefer barter.
i hit the wrong thank u button....
This is the final straw, you killed me ,bro.
nunaem
10th January 2011, 10:34 AM
I like to feed the rabbits around here too. It feels good to see them multiply and then starve to death when I am unable to possibly feed them all. :oo-->
Seriously though, what is going to happen to third world countries when you feel-gooder christians can't afford to support them? The only sensible way to provide this type of charity is with a string attached to sterilization.
solid
10th January 2011, 11:06 AM
That man is a hero. Heartwarming story, thanks for sharing it! :)
EE_
10th January 2011, 11:22 AM
Too bad the "have it all's" aren't like him. I think they are busy at the moment.
Deepening crisis traps America's have-nots
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/8249181/Deepening-crisis-traps-Americas-have-nots.html
The US is drifting from a financial crisis to a deeper and more insidious social crisis. Self-congratulation by the US authorities that they have this time avoided a repeat of the 1930s is premature.
A tale of two shoppers - Louis Vuitton has helped boost the luxury goods stock index by almost 50pc since October, yet Walmart has languished.
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard 7:39PM GMT 09 Jan 2011 449 Comments
There is a telling detail in the US retail chain store data for December. Stephen Lewis from Monument Securities points out that luxury outlets saw an 8.1pc rise from a year ago, but discount stores catering to America’s poorer half rose just 1.2pc.
Tiffany’s, Nordstrom, and Saks Fifth Avenue are booming. Sales of Cadillac cars have jumped 35pc, while Porsche’s US sales are up 29pc.
Cartier and Louis Vuitton have helped boost the luxury goods stock index by almost 50pc since October. Yet Best Buy, Target, and Walmart have languished.
Such is the blighted fruit of Federal Reserve policy. The Fed no longer even denies that the purpose of its latest blast of bond purchases, or QE2, is to drive up Wall Street, perhaps because it has so signally failed to achieve its other purpose of driving down borrowing costs.
Yet surely Ben Bernanke’s `trickle down’ strategy risks corroding America’s ethic of solidarity long before it does much to help America’s poor.
The retail data can be quirky but it fits in with everything else we know. The numbers of people on food stamps have reached 43.2m, an all time-high of 14pc of the population. Recipients receive debit cards – not stamps -- currently worth about $140 a month under President Obama’s stimulus package.
The US Conference of Mayors said visits to soup kitchens are up 24pc this year. There are 643,000 people needing shelter each night.
Jobs data released on Friday was again shocking. The only the reason that headline unemployment fell to 9.4pc was that so many people dropped out of the system altogether.
The actual number of jobs contracted by 260,000 to 153,690,000. The “labour participation rate” for working-age men over 20 dropped to 73.6pc, the lowest the since the data series began in 1948. My guess is that this figure exceeds the average for the Great Depression (minus the cruellest year of 1932).
“Corporate America is in a V-shaped recovery,” said Robert Reich, a former labour secretary. “That’s great news for investors whose savings are mainly in stocks and bonds, and for executives and Wall Street traders. But most American workers are trapped in an L-shaped recovery.”
It is no surprise that America’s armed dissident movement has resurfaced. For a glimpse into this sub-culture, read Time Magazine’s “Locked and Loaded: The Secret World of Extreme Militias”.
Time’s reporters went underground with the 300-strong `Ohio Defence Force’, an eclectic posse of citizens who spend weekends with M16 assault rifles and an M60 machine gun training to defend their constitutional rights by guerrilla warfare.
As it happens, I spent some time with militia groups across the US at the tail end of the recession in the early 1990s. While the rallying cry then was gun control and encroachments on freedom, the movement was at root a primordial scream by blue-collar Americans left behind in the new global dispensation. That grievance is surely worse today.
The long-term unemployed (more than six months) have reached 42pc of the total, twice the peak of the early 1990s. Nothing like this has been seen since the World War Two.
The Gini Coefficient used to measure income inequality has risen from the mid-30s to 46.8 over the last quarter century, touching the same extremes reached in the Roaring Twenties just before the Slump. It has also been ratcheting up in Britain and Europe.
Raghuram Rajan, the IMF’s former chief economist, argues that the subprime debt build-up was an attempt – “whether carefully planned or the path of least resistance” – to disguise stagnating incomes and to buy off the poor.
“The inevitable bill could be postponed into the future. Cynical as it might seem, easy credit has been used throughout history as a palliative by governments that are unable to address the deeper anxieties of the middle class directly,” he said.
Bank failures in the Depression were in part caused by expansion of credit to struggling farmers in response to the US Populist movement.
Extreme inequalities are toxic for societies, but there is also a body of scholarship suggesting that they cause depressions as well by upsetting the economic balance. They create a bias towards asset bubbles and overinvestment, while holding down consumption, until the system becomes top-heavy and tips over, as happened in the 1930s.
The switch from brawn to brain in the internet age has obviously pushed up the Gini count, but so has globalization. Multinationals are exploiting “labour arbitrage” by moving plant to low-wage countries, playing off workers in China and the West against each other. The profit share of corporations is at record highs across in America and Europe.
More subtly, Asia’s mercantilist powers have flooded the world with excess capacity, holding down their currencies to lock in trade surpluses. The effect is to create a black hole in the global system.
Yes, we can still hope that this is a passing phase until rising wages in Asia restore balance to East and West, but what it if it proves to be permanent, a structural incompatibility of the Confucian model with our own Ricardian trade doctrine?
There is no easy solution to creeping depression in America and swathes of the Old World. A Keynesian `New Deal’ of borrowing on the bond markets to build roads, bridges, solar farms, or nuclear power stations to soak up the army of unemployed is not a credible option in our new age of sovereign debt jitters. The fiscal card is played out.
So we limp on, with very large numbers of people in the West trapped on the wrong side of globalization, and nobody doing much about it. Would Franklin Roosevelt have tolerated such a lamentable state of affairs, or would he have ripped up and reshaped the global system until it answered the needs of his citizens?
bellevuebully
10th January 2011, 12:07 PM
I like to feed the rabbits around here too. It feels good to see them multiply and then starve to death when I am unable to possibly feed them all. :oo-->
Seriously though, what is going to happen to third world countries when you feel-gooder christians can't afford to support them? The only sensible way to provide this type of charity is with a string attached to sterilization.
Kissinger? Rothschild? Where have I heard that before?
Btw, who says charity has to be in third world countries? Plenty of need in first world countries. But I guess that flies over the head of elitist thinking. Too bad for you.
madfranks
10th January 2011, 12:17 PM
I like to feed the rabbits around here too. It feels good to see them multiply and then starve to death when I am unable to possibly feed them all. :oo-->
Seriously though, what is going to happen to third world countries when you feel-gooder christians can't afford to support them? The only sensible way to provide this type of charity is with a string attached to sterilization.
Kissinger? Rothschild? Where have I heard that before?
Btw, who says charity has to be in third world countries? Plenty of need in first world countries. But I guess that flies over the head of elitist thinking. Too bad for you.
There is plenty of need, but the difference is when you're in India (or wherever that video was shot), when you see a hobo on the side of the road, you can be 99% certain there is genuine need there. Here in the cities of America, when you see the homeless camping on the streets, in my experiences trying to be charitable, the majority of them choose that life and will try to scam you for food/money/supplies.
solid
10th January 2011, 12:28 PM
There is plenty of need, but the difference is when you're in India (or wherever that video was shot), when you see a hobo on the side of the road, you can be 99% certain there is genuine need there. Here in the cities of America, when you see the homeless camping on the streets, in my experiences trying to be charitable, the majority of them choose that life and will try to scam you for food/money/supplies.
That's a really good point, madfranks. Fortunately, free food is available here for the homeless. In America, to be charitable is more giving time than food or money. Such as soup kitchens, etc. Calling around and asking "need any help?". Nope, call the next one. St. Paul, etc. Lot's of cities have "rebuilding" projects, where folks from all backgrounds get together and rebuild an old orphanage, or shelter for battered women, etc. These are just a couple of things I've done, and found it rewarding. I think time donated is more valuable here.
nunaem
10th January 2011, 12:32 PM
I like to feed the rabbits around here too. It feels good to see them multiply and then starve to death when I am unable to possibly feed them all. :oo-->
Seriously though, what is going to happen to third world countries when you feel-gooder christians can't afford to support them? The only sensible way to provide this type of charity is with a string attached to sterilization.
Kissinger? Rothschild? Where have I heard that before?
Btw, who says charity has to be in third world countries? Plenty of need in first world countries. But I guess that flies over the head of elitist thinking. Too bad for you.
I'm not saying it has to be, but that just happens to be where it is. It's not all christian's fault either, but they play a big role along with governments.
Tell me this is sustainable:
http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/society/grainchart.gif
The rising tide of color!
The darker portion of that graph is going drop dramatically in the future. A titanic die-off. All because of charity from the first world.
EDIT: Oh, and the Catholic Church's opposition to birth control in the third world doesn't help either.
vacuum
10th January 2011, 01:30 PM
I like to feed the rabbits around here too. It feels good to see them multiply and then starve to death when I am unable to possibly feed them all. :oo-->
Seriously though, what is going to happen to third world countries when you feel-gooder christians can't afford to support them? The only sensible way to provide this type of charity is with a string attached to sterilization.
Kissinger? Rothschild? Where have I heard that before?
Btw, who says charity has to be in third world countries? Plenty of need in first world countries. But I guess that flies over the head of elitist thinking. Too bad for you.
I'm not saying it has to be, but that just happens to be where it is. It's not all christian's fault either, but they play a big role along with governments.
Tell me this is sustainable:
http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/society/grainchart.gif
The rising tide of color!
The darker portion of that graph is going drop dramatically in the future. A titanic die-off. All because of charity from the first world.
EDIT: Oh, and the Catholic Church's opposition to birth control in the third world doesn't help either.
By then we'll all be dead from global warming so it won't matter.
EE_
10th January 2011, 01:44 PM
I totally agree, what goes up must come down...and it won't be gradual!
Bullion_Bob
10th January 2011, 03:17 PM
$10 says the guy in the video is on the US terror alert watch list.
I've never met an Indian person I did not like or get along with, thus far. Worked with many.
bellevuebully
10th January 2011, 06:07 PM
$10 says the guy in the video is on the US terror alert watch list.
I've never met an Indian person I did not like or get along with, thus far. Worked with many.
I work in a hugely diversified workplace and have had similar experiences, not just with Indian, but pretty much most 'Canadian-immigrated'. Rarely do you encounter a grumpy, self-centered or self-pitying attitude. I see that mostly with Canadian-born workers...ie) "I hate this friggn place" Might have something to do with having it too good for too long......I think there's often a lack of appreciation for how good we really have it. I suppose when you come from a place where tin shanties and eating from garbage dumps is common, you kind of appreciate just having a job and a warm place to eat and sleep.
Personally, I can say that in the last few years, I have come to be much more appreciative of the life that we have the privelege of living here in North America. I've done my share of complaining in the past. Hopefully, I've outgrown that selfish, shallow-minded view.
bellevuebully
10th January 2011, 06:10 PM
Tell me this is sustainable:
http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/society/grainchart.gif
The rising tide of color!
The darker portion of that graph is going drop dramatically in the future. A titanic die-off. All because of charity from the first world.
You didn't need to clarify anything about your post for me nunaem....I've read enough books and witnessed enough in this world to know how elitists think and act.
Book
10th January 2011, 06:12 PM
Personally, I can say that in the last few years, I have come to be much more appreciative of the life that we have the privelege of living here in North America. I've done my share of complaining in the past. Hopefully, I've outgrown that selfish, shallow-minded view.
Me too. Nothing like standing next to some HAPPY GRATEFUL immigrant who works twice as hard for half the pay to cause us to reevaluate our perspective.
:D
nunaem
10th January 2011, 06:13 PM
One of my math teachers in college was Indian. The sweetest old man I've ever met. Unfortunately the bastard students took advantage of his kindness. Those scumbags.
Tell me this is sustainable:
http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/society/grainchart.gif
The rising tide of color!
The darker portion of that graph is going drop dramatically in the future. A titanic die-off. All because of charity from the first world.
You didn't need to clarify anything about your post for me nunaem....I've read enough books and witnessed enough in this world to know how elitists think and act.
Congratulations on your psychic abilities.
bellevuebully
10th January 2011, 06:19 PM
There is plenty of need, but the difference is when you're in India (or wherever that video was shot), when you see a hobo on the side of the road, you can be 99% certain there is genuine need there. Here in the cities of America, when you see the homeless camping on the streets, in my experiences trying to be charitable, the majority of them choose that life and will try to scam you for food/money/supplies.
Can't argue with that mf.
What you said about the situation here is true as well. Had to go downtown a couple of days in a row for some matters and both days there is a guy on the same corner, shows up at 8 just like a job, begging for change. He had better clothes on than I did.....sippn on a x/l coffee and holding out a brand new hat. Not saying everyone is in the same boat, but there sure is number of them that fit that profile. :-\
Book
10th January 2011, 06:22 PM
http://www.rothcpa.com/archives/misc/Child%20Labor.jpg
We need to return to the good old days to stay competitive or our Masters will make their billions elsewhere.
:oo-->
bellevuebully
10th January 2011, 06:29 PM
Book, aside from the pics, tell me what you thought of the video. Seriously, I'm interested in what you think about it. I don't really care if it's diametrically opposite to what I think, I just want to know what you think about what that guy is doing.
solid
10th January 2011, 06:36 PM
Book, aside from the pics, tell me what you thought of the video. Seriously, I'm interested in what you think about it. I don't really care if it's diametrically opposite to what I think, I just want to know what you think about what that guy is doing.
I'd like to know too, bellevuebully.
Personally, I think if there was more guys like that guy...and less greedy power-hungry bastards trying to control us, the world would be a better place.
That guy brings joy and light, every smile he brings out of the folks he helps makes the world better.
bellevuebully
10th January 2011, 06:40 PM
Book, aside from the pics, tell me what you thought of the video. Seriously, I'm interested in what you think about it. I don't really care if it's diametrically opposite to what I think, I just want to know what you think about what that guy is doing.
I'd like to know too, bellevuebully.
Personally, I think if there was more guys like that guy...and less greedy power-hungry bastards trying to control us, the world would be a better place.
That guy brings joy and light, every smile he brings out of the folks he helps makes the world better.
I'll bet he's happier than 99% the people in first world countries. It really illustrates where real value lies, doesn't it? Thanks for your comments.
And btw, I'm genuinly interested in Book's viewpoint on this. I hope it didn't come off as sarcastic or belittling, that is not where I am coming from. Not saying you are either, but I just wanted to clarify that.
Book
10th January 2011, 06:45 PM
Book, aside from the pics, tell me what you thought of the video. Seriously, I'm interested in what you think about it. I don't really care if it's diametrically opposite to what I think, I just want to know what you think about what that guy is doing.
I thought I was watching Jesus reincarnated as some guy in India. He is living the very meaning of the New Testament.
:)
nunaem
10th January 2011, 06:53 PM
I'd like to know: when, not if, the famine comes that wipes out 80+% of India's population, the population that is hardly sustainable in good times, who will be to blame?
I may be an elitist, but elitism never wipes out billions of people. Communistic egalitarianism does.
My rabbit analogy, as callous as it is, still stands.
bellevuebully
10th January 2011, 06:54 PM
http://www.rothcpa.com/archives/misc/Child%20Labor.jpg
We need to return to the good old days to stay competitive or our Masters will make their billions elsewhere.
:oo-->
It's funny Book. That pic in ways reminds me of my old man.
He was the son of a first gen immigrant. (I always tease him when I see him wear something WAYYYYY beyond it's lifespan.....I say, 'how's it goin' you ol' son-of-an-immigrant!') That usually gets a good laugh out of him.
Anyway, when he was young, his dad was a miner and during the summer, he, his brother and his mother, made more money during the summer months that his dad did in the gold mines. They started in the spring time, a few weeks before school got out (they got out early). First go was planting onions, and raddish for the commercial growers. Then it was picking and bunching. Then blueberries, and then blueberry sorting and sales. For the most part, it was 10-12 hours a day, 7 days a week, all summer. The wagon would pick up everyone in the 'hood that was working at the farm and come home at the end of the day.
He started that routine at about 8 years old. He never received a toy for Christmas, never had a bike that was his. What he got, was what he needed....a shirt, a jacket or a pair of boots. I've never heard him complain about any of his childhood. To this day he is a very content individual. I'm not making a martyr or a saint out of him, but I sure do look up to many of his qualities.
Horn
10th January 2011, 06:57 PM
There isn't any exercise that is healthier than what he is doing.
bellevuebully
10th January 2011, 06:58 PM
Book, aside from the pics, tell me what you thought of the video. Seriously, I'm interested in what you think about it. I don't really care if it's diametrically opposite to what I think, I just want to know what you think about what that guy is doing.
I thought I was watching Jesus reincarnated as some guy in India. He is living the very meaning of the New Testament.
:)
Dude....I couldn't believe it when I was watching it. I was thinking the same thing. Not often you come across that kind of selflessness in this world.
Thanks for the response. ;)
hoarder
10th January 2011, 06:58 PM
You didn't need to clarify anything about your post for me nunaem....I've read enough books and witnessed enough in this world to know how elitists think and act.
I'll tell you how the elite thinks. Whites are ranked as the highest threat to their supremacy and they undermine our second place position on the food chain by promoting dysgenic ideas and policies. In the process of doing so they make themselves appear as good samaritans.
When I was born, European descendants were one third of the world's population, now we're in the single digits. This mass genocide is a result of the actions of the elite tribe.
But as a distraction to their mass genocide they serve up distractions in the form of the plight of pitiful third worders who have more kids than they can support.
ximmy
10th January 2011, 07:03 PM
I watched the vid and read the comments and would like to comment too...
So he is like a male version of mother theresa... bless his soul...
Right, feed the 5 stray cats and you will have thousands of strays...
Bible quotes:
"You will always have the poor with you"
"that if any would not work, neither should he eat."
"an idle soul shall suffer hunger"
General quote: "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
The real problems: non-productivity in the land, religious taboos (eat the cow), bad local governments.
bellevuebully
10th January 2011, 07:04 PM
I'd like to know: when, not if, the famine comes that wipes out 80+% of India's population, the population that is hardly sustainable in good times, who will be to blame?
I may be an elitist, but elitism never wipes out billions of people. Communistic egalitarianism does.
My rabbit analogy, as callous as it is, still stands.
Rant somewhere else. You didn't notice I ignored your last post while responding to several others? For an elitist, you are not very observant.
This thread is about charity, not your rabbit [sic] analogy of global population growth.
nunaem
10th January 2011, 07:08 PM
I'd like to know: when, not if, the famine comes that wipes out 80+% of India's population, the population that is hardly sustainable in good times, who will be to blame?
I may be an elitist, but elitism never wipes out billions of people. Communistic egalitarianism does.
My rabbit analogy, as callous as it is, still stands.
Rant somewhere else. You didn't notice I ignored your last post while responding to several others? For an elitist, you are not very observant.
This thread is about charity, not your rabbit [sic] analogy of global population growth.
For someone who throws around the elitist label you sure are self-centered. What makes you think my question was directed at you alone?
And please enlighten me, what is the correct way to spell rabbit? :oo-->
Horn
10th January 2011, 07:12 PM
I'd like to know: when, not if, the famine comes that wipes out 80+% of India's population, the population that is hardly sustainable in good times, who will be to blame?
I may be an elitist, but elitism never wipes out billions of people. Communistic egalitarianism does.
My rabbit analogy, as callous as it is, still stands.
Rant somewhere else. You didn't notice I ignored your last post while responding to several others? For an elitist, you are not very observant.
This thread is about charity, not your rabbit [sic] analogy of global population growth.
For someone who throws around the elitist label you sure are self-centered. What makes you think my question was directed at you alone?
And please enlighten me, what is the correct way to spell rabbit? :oo-->
Am I missing something?
bellevuebully
10th January 2011, 07:14 PM
I watched the vid and read the comments and would like to comment too...
So he is like a male version of mother theresa... bless his soul...
Right, feed the 5 stray cats and you will have thousands of strays...
Bible quotes:
"You will always have the poor with you"
"that if any would not work, neither should he eat."
"an idle soul shall suffer hunger"
General quote: "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
The real problems: non-productivity in the land, religious taboos (eat the cow), bad local governments.
No question about that, but I don't think that those suffering should be ignored because of those conditions. Most of those people are probably elderly, disabled, or orphaned....speculation on my part, but let's face it, India doesn't exactly have the same safety nets as North America.
But hey, if you think it's cool to ignore them, that's up to you. I'm not trying to change who you are, or what you think.
Btw, why do you keep quoting scripture to make your point and then crap all over scripture as nonsense? It seems a little incongruent in logic.
ximmy
10th January 2011, 07:18 PM
I watched the vid and read the comments and would like to comment too...
So he is like a male version of mother theresa... bless his soul...
Right, feed the 5 stray cats and you will have thousands of strays...
Bible quotes:
"You will always have the poor with you"
"that if any would not work, neither should he eat."
"an idle soul shall suffer hunger"
General quote: "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
The real problems: non-productivity in the land, religious taboos (eat the cow), bad local governments.
No question about that, but I don't think that those suffering should be ignored because of those conditions. Most of those people are probably elderly, disabled, or orphaned....speculation on my part, but let's face it, India doesn't exactly have the same safety nets as North America.
But hey, if you think it's cool to ignore them, that's up to you. I'm not trying to change who you are, or what you think.
Btw, why do you keep quoting scripture to make your point and then crap all over scripture as nonsense? It seems a little incongruent in logic.
Show me one place where I crap on scripture... The "religioso" religious persons, I gladly crap on... ximy
Book
10th January 2011, 07:35 PM
http://www.susps.org/images/worldpopgr.gif
We all wisely demand a drastic reduction of the worldwide useless-eater human population..............as long as our own families are spared.
:D
Horn
10th January 2011, 07:37 PM
In my eye the truly successful are those individuals who have learned the lesson of help.
The most successful are those who can both give & receive it without any strings of expectation attached whatsoever.
Only a single connecting string called respect.
I see it everyday, in every way.
Dogman
10th January 2011, 07:38 PM
http://www.susps.org/images/worldpopgr.gif
We all wisely demand a drastic reduction of the worldwide useless-eater human population..............as long as our own families are spared.
:D
Human history will repeat, there will be a few major wars to thin
the world population out. That can be taken to the bank!
hoarder
10th January 2011, 07:44 PM
Human history will repeat, there will be a few major wars to thin
the world population out. That can be taken to the bank!
‘We shall drive the Christians into war by exploiting their national vanity and stupidity. They will then massacre each other, thus giving room for our own people.’ Rabbi Reichorn in Le Contemporain, July 1, 1880
ximmy
10th January 2011, 07:45 PM
We all wisely demand a drastic reduction of the worldwide useless-eater human population..............as long as our own families are spared.
:D
http://www.susps.org/images/worldpopgr.gif
I have a different dream, where those who are exceptionally capable utilize the worlds population to work, self-sustain and have profit for themselves, and to cultivate science & technology to the point where perhaps someday we inhabit other planets with the earthlings...
Instead we have ideas of population control from a few greedy "betters" hoarding the wealth.
pretty silly huh?
nunaem
10th January 2011, 07:49 PM
http://www.susps.org/images/worldpopgr.gif
We all wisely demand a drastic reduction of the worldwide useless-eater human population..............as long as our own families are spared.
:D
We all wisely put off having children because it's too expensive. But sponsoring a child in Ethiopia only costs $0.15 a day!
Horn
10th January 2011, 08:02 PM
In my eye the truly successful are those individuals who have learned the lesson of help.
The most successful are those who can both give & receive it without any strings of expectation attached whatsoever.
Only a single connecting string called respect.
I see it everyday, in every way.
Horn, may I please add to that, I love that BTW.
I also feel that the truly successful people are those that have learned to help,
but then forget about it. Because there are some that remember it a little too much & think they're oh so great afterwards.
I can't stand them kind of people . Sort of like what you're saying about no strings attached except mutual respect.
Sure, Emphasis on the receive end of help too...
I know many a business person either stuck to repeat the same cycle over & over, or fall flat on their face due to their misunderstanding of this.
Especially when their "help" is translated into the physical form, money.
Many of them get caught up there, and fall far.
Some start to feel a extreme sense of personal ownership, I guess?
Which of course thru history (long & short) has been shown to fail miserably.
Horn
10th January 2011, 08:04 PM
That chart just got introduced to high speed travel.
nunaem
10th January 2011, 08:11 PM
That chart just got introduced to high speed travel.
Soon it will be introduced to time travel. To 1900 numbers.
FunnyMoney
10th January 2011, 09:48 PM
There are plenty of solutions to solve today's problems coming from poverty, hunger, and large populated nations. There's more solutions than you can shake a stick at. The video shows that beyond solutions, there's people willing to grasp the solutions and run with them all the way to the goal.
Over-population is not a problem, poverty is. When people move out of poverty, populations stabalize almost instantly. If it wasn't for all the wealth stolen and wasted due to the counter-productive and corrupt systems imposed upon the world by central govts and the powers directing them, the vast variety of solutions would be implemented almost instantly. That's how strong the power of giving is.
Unfortunately, TPTB and the elite see themselves as a class above and everybody else as a commodity to be used and abused. Pakistan and India have large and powerful military might. TPTB have no intention of allowing India to see anywhere near the same level of prosperity as China. India has an extremely corrupt govt from the top all the way to the bottom. TPTB have seen to it that each society around the world has its own unique good traits countered with corrupt and criminal aspects. The USA has the 2nd amendment, so the goal is a police state, first by way of a war economy. Most people think the world is full of problems and that it's societies own fault for not having enough good people (like the one shown in the video). But the truth is that there's plenty of good people, but the significant solutions are taken away from them by those at the top.
Just like HT used to say, the bottom still feeds the top and the top is already one huge amazing parasite. Until that ends, no amount of good people like the one shown in this video will be enough.
Libertytree
10th January 2011, 09:57 PM
There are plenty of solutions to solve today's problems coming from poverty, hunger, and large populated nations. There's more solutions than you can shake a stick at. The video shows that beyond solutions, there's people willing to grasp the solutions and run with them all the way to the goal.
Over-population is not a problem, poverty is. When people move out of poverty, populations stabalize almost instantly. If it wasn't for all the wealth stolen and wasted due to the counter-productive and corrupt systems imposed upon the world by central govts and the powers directing them, the vast variety of solutions would be implemented almost instantly. That's how strong the power of giving is.
Unfortunately, TPTB and the elite see themselves as a class above and everybody else as a commodity to be used and abused. Pakistan and India have large and powerful military might. TPTB have no intention of allowing India to see anywhere near the same level of prosperity as China. India has an extremely corrupt govt from the top all the way to the bottom. TPTB have seen to it that each society around the world has its own unique good traits countered with corrupt and criminal aspects. The USA has the 2nd amendment, so the goal is a police state, first by way of a war economy. Most people think the world is full of problems and that it's societies own fault for not having enough good people (like the one shown in the video). But the truth is that there's plenty of good people, but the significant solutions are taken away from them by those at the top.
Just like HT used to say, the bottom still feeds the top and the top is already one huge amazing parasite. Until that ends, no amount of good people like the one shown in this video will be enough.
Wow FM, very nicely worded and succinct, my hat is off to ya once again.
StackerKen
10th January 2011, 10:24 PM
I like what the Guy in the OP video is doing
And I don't want my reply to be the reason this thread gets sent to the Religion sub forum..
If it is, maybe Just my post can be sent there?
What Herblady said got me thinking of these verses
Matthew 6
Giving to the Needy
1 “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.
2 “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
Jesus also said this in Matthew 5
14 “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
Is this a Contradiction? Not At All
I think The key is to let your Good deeds glorify your Father in heaven. And Not take credit for them yourself in front of men
Helping others is a Good feeling...and helping others is Great...If is is done for the correct reasons and with the right motives
and what FM just said made me think of what Jesus said here.
For you always have the poor with you, and whenever you want, you can do good for them.
So I guess we will never eliminate poverty...Maybe they are here for a reason?
Maybe its a test for us more fortunate ones?
Libertytree
10th January 2011, 10:59 PM
Sometimes a hello, a smile or a little bit of conversation is worth more than a thousand dollars, it's about having your heart in the right place. Obviously, if you're grandstanding your good deeds you have some soul searchin' to do. If ya don't do it from a pure heart it's tainted and worth nothing.
bellevuebully
11th January 2011, 03:58 AM
There are plenty of solutions to solve today's problems coming from poverty, hunger, and large populated nations. There's more solutions than you can shake a stick at. The video shows that beyond solutions, there's people willing to grasp the solutions and run with them all the way to the goal.
Over-population is not a problem, poverty is. When people move out of poverty, populations stabalize almost instantly. If it wasn't for all the wealth stolen and wasted due to the counter-productive and corrupt systems imposed upon the world by central govts and the powers directing them, the vast variety of solutions would be implemented almost instantly. That's how strong the power of giving is.
Unfortunately, TPTB and the elite see themselves as a class above and everybody else as a commodity to be used and abused. Pakistan and India have large and powerful military might. TPTB have no intention of allowing India to see anywhere near the same level of prosperity as China. India has an extremely corrupt govt from the top all the way to the bottom. TPTB have seen to it that each society around the world has its own unique good traits countered with corrupt and criminal aspects. The USA has the 2nd amendment, so the goal is a police state, first by way of a war economy. Most people think the world is full of problems and that it's societies own fault for not having enough good people (like the one shown in the video). But the truth is that there's plenty of good people, but the significant solutions are taken away from them by those at the top.
Just like HT used to say, the bottom still feeds the top and the top is already one huge amazing parasite. Until that ends, no amount of good people like the one shown in this video will be enough.
As Libertytree responded......very well said FM. Thanks for the thoughtful response.
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