i'm starting to become afraid of people, i think

[chad]

the last few days have been troubling for me. i've always operated under the assumption that there's a certain crazy town segment of the population, but for the most part, people are normal. i'm starting to doubt that.

since this shooting of the congresswoman, i'm becoming disturbed. i see pages of comments (on facebook) from people i've known for years venting primal hate. i don't like glen beck, limbaugh, etc. either, but i don't want them killed over this.

i see the videos of the females on here in the gas station fight, people acting like animals.

i'm reading huffingtonpost and seeing pages of editorials + comments advocating violence, nasty hate filled messages, and it is starting to scare me.

i'm listening to local talk radio this morning, and people are calling in left and right and are PISSED OFF to the point of screaming at the host. all this over people they haven't even met.

what is really bothering me is that i can see these people snapping and turning in to "lord humungus" at some point. i am seeing how genocide maybe gets started.

i know we all talk about sheeple, etc. but i am seeing the reality of a dark place coming.

it's making me want to just stay on my acreage an interact with as few people as possible. that's not healthy either.

i don't know, long rant, things are just getting weird.

[sirgonzo420]

HAARP fuckin' with peoples' brainwaves....

:o

[chad]

somebody on facebook that i've known since i was 7 deleted me because i refused to agree that "rush limbaugh deserves a bullet."

i know it's chinzy facebook, but you're going to cut off contact with somebody you've known for 32 years because they don't agree that some guy on the radio you've never met deserves to be killed?

i have a whole group of friends in iowa that i seriously think would sign up to send people to work camps if ordered to do so.

al of these people were normal as little as 2 or 3 years ago. it's like somebody flipped a switch and they al went crazy.

i sit here in the woods and don't relate to any of it.

[RJB]

what is really bothering me is that i can see these people snapping and turning in to "lord humungus" at some point. i am seeing how genocide maybe gets started.They already have. If you remove his mask:

http://www.kzmu.org/photos/shows/large/humungus2.jpg


You get this underneath:

http://fromthelandofoz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/031obama-light-side.jpg

[osoab]

HAARP f*ckin' with peoples' brainwaves....

:o


Silent Sound Spectrum

[mrnhtbr2232]

The 24/7 news cycle is working; nothing to worry about here that we haven't seen before. This is what happens to people when they have been conditioned to fear their own shadows. Sadly, it portrays just how far gone society is when it cannot be rational about irrational situations. Once again these people are so wound up they fail to recognize their anger is artificially created by their input systems.

[chad]

The 24/7 news cycle is working; nothing to worry about here that we haven't seen before. This is what happens to people when they have been conditioned to fear their own shadows. Sadly, it portrays just how far gone society is when it cannot be rational about irrational situations. Once again these people are so wound up they fail to recognize their anger is artificially created by their input systems.


i think they are afraid of their own shadows.

i'm amazed also at how they all think some politician, some law, some police group, something! is suddenly going to come and cure everything. they are getting angrier and angrier that that 'thing' hasn't shown up yet.

[Spectrism]

Chad. you are right about the animals. People are nasty beasts- all of us. We can watch the chimp-out videos and the savagery of all races to some degree. The core of mankind is corrupted and this is clearly reflected in governments and businesses.

I have found only one way to make sense of this. After studying all sorts of scientific, philosophical and religious concepts, there is only one that covers all the bases. People are NOT evolving to a higher form. Valuable genetic information is being LOST, not better new information magically appearing. Science clearly points to life degrading but people don't want to accept that.

The message of the bible is that man was created good in a good world. CHOOSING to go against the creator brought consequences to man and the world which lead to death. What I fear is that mankind is getting the object of our choice. Each of us is sovereign in that we can choose our paths. But we are limited within time and space with our creator reserving His supreme sovereignty to mess with our bad choices as He chooses.

The violent tendencies that you see rising have been explained in the bible. We must not be surprised as they get worse. We are in the end days. We can know what is coming to a fairly certain picture. A true prepper will plan beyond this life too.

[undgrd]

I think you nailed it Chad. Rather than look to each other for solutions to problems, they're looking for the people "in charge". Not looking forward to what happens when they (American public) realizes the people "in charge" are absentee landlords.

[StreetsOfGold]

2Peter 2:10 ¶ But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
2Peter 2:11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.
2Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

[chad]

i'm not normally one for religion on here, but i can see this whole "masses following the anti christ thing."

[General of Darkness]

The 24/7 news cycle is working; nothing to worry about here that we haven't seen before. This is what happens to people when they have been conditioned to fear their own shadows. Sadly, it portrays just how far gone society is when it cannot be rational about irrational situations. Once again these people are so wound up they fail to recognize their anger is artificially created by their input systems.


i think they are afraid of their own shadows.

i'm amazed also at how they all think some politician, some law, some police group, something! is suddenly going to come and cure everything. they are getting angrier and angrier that that 'thing' hasn't shown up yet.


I'm not religious, but I get the feeling they will welcome the anti-christ with open arms.

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk54/cyrach/antichrist.jpg

[chad]

it's been an eye opening experience getting rid of my television almost a year ago.

my in laws are RAVING about tea partiers because of something chris matthews said. seriously? you're going to have a heart attack, get in fights with people, alienate your family (my wife) because of what chris matthews said?

[DMac]

Welcome to the club, Chad. I bugged out a little bit over the summer when I came to a similar revelation. I posted a thread at around 3am, half cocked, realizing that "The masses are going to be slaughtered and I need to come to terms with that" (http://gold-silver.us/forum/the-lounge/the-masses-are-going-to-be-slaughtered-and-i-need-to-come-to-terms-with-that/).

It's a tough pill to swallow.

[Spectrism]

I recall in high school german class how the Austrian teacher marvelled that the germanic people were suckered by Hitler. Amerika is far worse than the german people of the 1930s.

When people get crushed and hungry, they will cheer for the enslaver who brings them a piece of bread.

[osoab]

it's been an eye opening experience getting rid of my television almost a year ago.

my in laws are RAVING about tea partiers because of something chris matthews said. seriously? you're going to have a heart attack, get in fights with people, alienate your family (my wife) because of what chris matthews said?


"He's on TeeVee, He has to be right!"

[chad]

Welcome to the club, Chad. I bugged out a little bit over the summer when I came to a similar revelation. I posted a thread at around 3am, half cocked, realizing that "The masses are going to be slaughtered and I need to come to terms with that" (http://gold-silver.us/forum/the-lounge/the-masses-are-going-to-be-slaughtered-and-i-need-to-come-to-terms-with-that/).

It's a tough pill to swallow.


just read your thread. that's exactly what has happened to me over the last 4 days. to a T.

[Celtic Rogue]

the last few days have been troubling for me. i've always operated under the assumption that there's a certain crazy town segment of the population, but for the most part, people are normal. i'm starting to doubt that.

since this shooting of the congresswoman, i'm becoming disturbed. i see pages of comments (on facebook) from people i've known for years venting primal hate. i don't like glen beck, limbaugh, etc. either, but i don't want them killed over this.

i see the videos of the females on here in the gas station fight, people acting like animals.

i'm reading huffingtonpost and seeing pages of editorials + comments advocating violence, nasty hate filled messages, and it is starting to scare me.

i'm listening to local talk radio this morning, and people are calling in left and right and are PISSED OFF to the point of screaming at the host. all this over people they haven't even met.

what is really bothering me is that i can see these people snapping and turning in to "lord humungus" at some point. i am seeing how genocide maybe gets started.

i know we all talk about sheeple, etc. but i am seeing the reality of a dark place coming.

it's making me want to just stay on my acreage an interact with as few people as possible. that's not healthy either.

i don't know, long rant, things are just getting weird.


Yes you are not alone my friend!!!

[Awoke]

If you think it's bad now, Chad, just wait till their currency won't buy them food anymore....

It pays to be prepped.

[mamboni]

the last few days have been troubling for me. i've always operated under the assumption that there's a certain crazy town segment of the population, but for the most part, people are normal. i'm starting to doubt that.

since this shooting of the congresswoman, i'm becoming disturbed. i see pages of comments (on facebook) from people i've known for years venting primal hate. i don't like glen beck, limbaugh, etc. either, but i don't want them killed over this.

i see the videos of the females on here in the gas station fight, people acting like animals.

i'm reading huffingtonpost and seeing pages of editorials + comments advocating violence, nasty hate filled messages, and it is starting to scare me.

i'm listening to local talk radio this morning, and people are calling in left and right and are PISSED OFF to the point of screaming at the host. all this over people they haven't even met.

what is really bothering me is that i can see these people snapping and turning in to "lord humungus" at some point. i am seeing how genocide maybe gets started.

i know we all talk about sheeple, etc. but i am seeing the reality of a dark place coming.

it's making me want to just stay on my acreage an interact with as few people as possible. that's not healthy either.

i don't know, long rant, things are just getting weird.


I'm with you brother and I share your feelings and concerns, exactly. My studies of history, discussions with authority figures and collective personal experiences in NYC have taught me that most people are prone to savagry and primitive violence. When groups of people form, the likelihood of irresponsible behavior escalating to depraved indifference to life, limb and property increases exponentially. We individually are animals that have had civilized restraints and sensibilities instilled in us. Some have been bred in a more refined manner than others. Some have never had exposure to civilized and decent behaviour. Some individuals are intrinsically more prone to aggression than others. Most people maintain an external appearance of normalcy that is deceptive. Internally, they are prone to rage, violence and self-serving intellectual dishonesty. Few men will honor the truth and what is just and fair when their personal well-being or safety are at stake. For most, it is the law of the jungle and survival of the fittest: "If I can get away with it, it is OK."

I too have left the urban and suburban setting for a rural existence. The difference in one's neighbors' viewpoint on life, family and interpersonal relationships here in 'the woods' is refreshing: reverence for life, be it human or non-human; courteousness; desire to be helpful; pride in self-sufficiency and personal resourcefulness; slow to anger and hesitant to prejudge; earnest and sincere in all dealings. Not all my neighbors are paragons of virtue. But, the low population density and rustic wooded environment nurtures individualism and makes mob formation inconvenient. Consequently, I have greatly limited my interpersonal relations to immediate family and a few carefully chosen neighbors. I look at all others with suspicion and keep interaction to a minimum. This has provided for a harmonius and stress-free home environment. Besides, dogs are much better companions than people!

[chad]

i need to get a dog. or dogs. :-\

i know what you are saying about big cities. my wife is from NYC. grew up there, the whole 9 yards. she is terrified of it now, won't go back, ever.

[mamboni]

i need to get a dog. or dogs. :-\

i know what you are saying about big cities. my wife is from NYC. grew up there, the whole 9 yards. she is terrified of it now, won't go back, ever.


Consider the schnauzer: it too, though an animal, has been cultivated into a refined and sensitive creature that is both ferocious and cute.

[joe_momma]

Chad, take a moment - there is a lot of beauty in the world also - the drawback is that, as JRR Tolkien noted (paraphrasing) "... the peaceful time resting up in Rivendell just doesn't make for an interesting story."

newspapers sell news that sells - i.e., Distaster and Doom (with a portion of Gloom) - I think sometimes the board (by its nature) focuses on the bad - there is still lots of good (and good people) out there -

Go to a public park and watch kids play, or puppies frolic in the snow (assuming there is some where you are).

Be prudent, be prepared, but know that life on the balance is pretty good!

[vacuum]

Sociology

As I mentioned before, the idea of the inner circle contradicts all recognised sociological theories concerning the structure of human society, but this idea brings us to other theories which are forgotten now and which did not receive due attention in their time.

Thus from time to time there arose in sociology the question as to whether humanity could be regarded as an organism and human communities as smaller organisms; that is, is a biological view of social phenomena possible? Contemporary sociological thought adopts a negative attitude in relation to this idea, and it has long been considered unscientific to regard a community as an organism. The mistake, however, lies in the way the problem is formulated. The concept "organism" is taken in too narrow a sense and only in one preconceived idea. If a human community, nation, people, race is taken as an organism, it is taken as an organism either analogous to the human organism or higher than the human organism. Actually, however, this idea can be correct only in relation to the whole of mankind. Separate human groups, no matter how large they may be, can never be analogous to man, and still less can they ever be superior to him. Biology knows of, and has established, the existence of entirely different orders of organisms. If in examining the phenomena of social life we bear in mind the difference between organisms on different rungs of the biological ladder, the biological view of social phenomena becomes much more possible — but only on condition that we realise that every human community, such as a race, a people, a tribe, is a lower organism as compared to an individual man.

A race or a nation regarded as an organism has nothing in common with the highly developed and complex organism of individual man, which for every function has a special organ, very great capacity for adaptation, possesses free movement, etc. In comparison with an individual man, a race or nation as an organism stands on a very low level — that of "animal plants". These organisms are amorphous, for the most part immobile, masses, beings which have no special organs for any of their functions and do not possess the capacity for free movement, but are fixed at a definite place. They put out something like feelers ["focus groups"? — Ed.] in different directions, and by means of these they seize other beings like themselves and eat them. The whole life of these organisms consists in their eating one another.

There are some organisms which possess the capacity for absorbing a quantity of smaller organisms and so temporarily become very large and strong. Then two of these large organisms meet one another, and a struggle begins between them in which either one or both are destroyed or weakened. The whole external history of humanity, the history of the struggles between peoples and races, consists of nothing but the process which has just been described: of "animal plants" eating one another.

But in the midst of all this, underneath it all, as it were, proceed the life and activity of the individual man, that is, of the individual cells which form these organisms. The activity of these individual men produces what we call culture or civilisation. The activity of the masses is always hostile to this culture, it always destroys it. Peoples create nothing. They only destroy. It is individual men who create. All inventions, discoveries, improvements, all technical progress, the progress of science, art, architecture, engineering, philosophical systems, religious teachings — all these are results of the activity of individual men. The destruction of the results of this activity, their distortion, annihilation, obliteration from the face of the earth — this is the activity of the human masses.

This does not mean that individual men do not serve destruction. On the contrary, the initiative of destruction on a large scale always belongs to individual men, and the masses are merely the executive agency. But masses can never create anything, although they can destroy on their own account.

If we understand that the masses of humanity, that is, peoples and races, are lower beings as compared with individual man, we shall understand that peoples and races cannot evolve in the same measure as individual man.

We have even no idea of the evolution possible to a people or to a race, though we often speak of such an evolution. As a matter of fact, all peoples and nations within the limits of our historical observation follow one and the same course. They grow, develop, reach a certain degree of size and power, and then begin to be divided up, decline, and fall. Finally they disappear entirely and become component parts of some other being like themselves. Races and nations die in the same way as individual man. But individuals have certain other possibilities besides death, which the great organisms of the human masses have not, for their souls are as amorphous as their bodies.

The tragedy of individual man lies in the fact that he lives, as it were, within the dense mass of such a lower being, and all his activity is in the service of the purely vegetable functions of this blind jelly-like organism. At the same time the conscious individual activity of man, his efforts in the domain of thought and creative work, run contrary to these big organisms, in spite of them, and in defiance of them. But of course it would not be true to say that all the individual activity of man consists in a conscious struggle against these big organisms. Man is conquered and made a slave. And it often happens that man thinks he is serving and must serve these big beings by his individual activity. But the higher manifestations of the human spirit, the higher activities of man, are entirely unnecessary to the big organisation; in most cases, indeed, they are unpleasant, hostile, and even dangerous to them, since they divert to individual work the forces which might otherwise have been absorbed into the vortex of the life of the big organism. In an unconscious, merely physiological, way, the big organism endeavours to appropriate all the powers of the individual cells which are its components, using them in its own interests — that is to say, mainly for fighting other similar organisms.

When we remember that the individual cells, that is, men, are far more highly organised beings than big organisms, and that the activities of the former go far beyond the activities possible to the latter, we shall understand that what is called progress or evolution is that which is left over of individual activities after all the struggle between the amorphous masses and this individual activity has taken place. The blind organisms of the masses struggle with the manifestation of the evolutionary spirit, annihilate and stifle it, and destroy what has been created by it. But even so they cannot entirely annihilate it. Something remains, and this is what we call progress or civilisation.

[7th trump]

I recall in high school german class how the Austrian teacher marvelled that the germanic people were suckered by Hitler. Amerika is far worse than the german people of the 1930s.

When people get crushed and hungry, they will cheer for the enslaver who brings them a piece of bread.

I've been preaching that the beast that gets the mortal blow is a political beast, not the physical entity "satan" beast.
This political beast gets a death blow because the PTB cannot have it both ways.
The PTB would very much like to see everyone a slave to them and as we all know they dumb down the people to achieve this goal. But where they run into a problem is if you dumb down the people the people will react the way they are programmed. Society fails because of political agenda.
You cannot have a perfect utopia world of entitlement slavery with no violence when the slaves only know what they are know. The PTB with their nwo are attempting to force two like polls to attract each other. Positive and negative attracts each other, not two positives or two negatives, but thats the way of the NWO. Everything seems backwards and not natural because its not natural.
This is the death blow to this political beast (society or world order).
The only way that the beast is brought back to life is when satan himself comes to this earth play acting as Christ.
Only then will you see the world except with crap with open arms.

[Ponce]

What can I say, remember what I wrote about five years ago in GIM?........." The situation will get worse not because of what is happening but rather because the people themselves will make it worse"...........it was when I realise this that I moved the hell out of CA and into the woods of Oregon ten years ago..........and even here I no longer feel safe.

First post of the day.............good morning to one and all.

[Dogman]

i need to get a dog. or dogs. :-\

i know what you are saying about big cities. my wife is from NYC. grew up there, the whole 9 yards. she is terrified of it now, won't go back, ever.


Consider the schnauzer: it too, though an animal, has been cultivated into a refined and sensitive creature that is both ferocious and cute.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19610.0;attach=563 4;image

I apologize to the group , for being way off topic here!

Mamboni I am sure you have seen and heard that married people tend to look alike.

Seeing your avatar and that picture of your dog , brought that thought to mind!

Strong resemblance there! :o

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[mamboni]

i need to get a dog. or dogs. :-\

i know what you are saying about big cities. my wife is from NYC. grew up there, the whole 9 yards. she is terrified of it now, won't go back, ever.


Consider the schnauzer: it too, though an animal, has been cultivated into a refined and sensitive creature that is both ferocious and cute.


I apologize to the group , for being way off topic here!

Mamboni I am sure you have seen and heard that married people tend to look alike.

Seeing your avatar and that picture of your dog , brought that thought to mind!

Strong resemblance there! :o

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Actually, my dog says that I look like her! ;)

[keehah]

I had the same reaction last night reading the hundreds of comments after a globe and mail article about the left right division from the shooting. Although I have stopped looking to these sitse for news (they are mainly the propaganda wing of corporate government interests), more looking for what they are spinning and what the comments tend to, I was thinking I may actually want to 'stay in denial' about how hateful the MSM's sheep are right now. To stay in the non corporate new world where people are tempered to see, discuss and agree or disagree without acting like deranged monkeys.


Not looking forward to what happens when they (American public) realizes the people "in charge" are absentee landlords.
I think much of the anger (when not created by a manipulated corporate media of disempowerment) comes from their increasingly desperate desire to delay this awareness.

When our government has been corrupted by larger forces, and it starts to become obvious to most it no longer acts in the interests of the people and is actively working to enslave them, and is on a crash course, who will fight hardest to stay in denial? Those who have tended to want less government or those who have tended to want more government?

And I'm not going to argue its better or worse, but perhaps when many on 'the right' became disilusioned with government, a little earlier in the Bush 'Republican' years of open NWO takeover action, their denial was more focused on hate of 'others' such as foreigners, rather than fellow citizens just like them in most ways.

[Book]

i know we all talk about sheeple, etc. but i am seeing the reality of a dark place coming.

it's making me want to just stay on my acreage and interact with as few people as possible. that's not healthy either.



Yeah it is.

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[k-os]

People seem to be angrier, and to have a shorter fuse. This is caused by . . . life. Everything - debt, politicians lies, unemployment, traffic, etc., but mostly everything is covered in the umbrella of fear.

Also, people tend to take their anger to the extreme (as with Limbaugh and the bullet). Assassination of a talk show host because of an opinion? Really? Does anyone stop to think how absurd that is?

It may have to do with steady desensitization thanks to the media and "entertainment".

[nunaem]

I feel ya.

http://mises.org/books/herd.pdf

[SilverMagnet]

Welcome to planet fucking earth dude.

[Book]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2361/2076450897_be1b8ace7c.jpg

Wise bird.

[mamboni]

People seem to be angrier, and to have a shorter fuse. This is caused by . . . life. Everything - debt, politicians lies, unemployment, traffic, etc., but mostly everything is covered in the umbrella of fear.

Also, people tend to take their anger to the extreme (as with Limbaugh and the bullet). Assassination of a talk show host because of an opinion? Really? Does anyone stop to think how absurd that is?

It may have to do with steady desensitization thanks to the media and "entertainment".


From A Man for All Seasons, by Robert Bolt
Setting - Sir Thomas More has declined to employ Richard Rich, who has just left the room.

Speaker Dialog

Wife: Arrest him!
More: For what?
Wife: He's dangerous!
Roper: For all we know he's a spy!
Daughter: Father, that man's bad!
More: There's no law against that!
Roper: There is, God's law!
More: Then let God arrest him!
Wife: While you talk he's gone!
More: And go he should, if he were the Devil himself, until he broke the law!
Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!
More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!
More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat?
This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down (and you're just the man to do it!), do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then?

Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!

[Ponce]

Book?...........not a very wise bird........he will receive what drops from above :oo-->

[Libertytree]

Having worked with the public for the past 25 years or so I have concluded that your concerns are valid. From the pure ignorance, apathy to the group think narrated by the media, to the inability for critical thinking they are a scary lot. These things combined with any level of disruption and their reactions will manifest exponentially. Even the regular folks that have no desire or predeliction for extreme acts will act and react in ways that they even thought impossible. So yeah, getting the hell outta their way is smart and prudent me thinks.

[Son-of-Liberty]

I am feeling a greater urgency to get out of the city myself people here in the city are just too self centered and cannot be trusted. Was out in the country all summer but moved back in to stay with my girl friend for the winter. Love can make you do crazy things.

We had a big snow storm last weekend and I spent a good deal of time shoveling out our two parking stalls in front of our apartment so we wouldn't get stuck in the snow trying to park. There is no strict enforcement of the stalls but I know they are ours because the plug ins in front of the stalls are labeled for our apartment and are charged to our power meter. Anyway my girl friend gets home before me the other day and someone is parked in my stall. This car was stuck in the parking lot that morning and abandoned when I had left for work. Being the best GF ever she shoveled me another stall before I got home. Later that evening we went to the gym. When we got back someone was in her stall. So I ended up shoveling out a fourth stall but it wasn't close enough for her to plug in for the night in -20C weather.

Anyway I ended up leaving notes on the two cars windshields and they haven't done it again but I couldn't help thinking that if these two people felt like it was OK to take our stalls that I had spent considerable time shoveling in extremely cold weather that they would also be the type to feel entitled to our food or other supplies if there was a food shortage or something like that.

It also wasn't like I hadn't done the neighborly thing already. I had helped 4 cars get unstuck over the weekend but there is only so much that one person should have to do. If either one of these people had asked for help to shovel their spot out I probably would have helped.

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

You think it's bad now, wait till they take the fluoride out of the water supply.

[cedarchopper]

People like to get caught up in the frenzy of the moment, it makes them feel engaged. This moment of national hysteria will pass and people will get back to their regular worrying about employment, housing, money, pensions, relationships, police, war etc., with all its paralyzing entanglements.

I see little potential for people rising up. I see much more potential for them to be repressed and contained by fear...all those surveillance cameras, swat teams, and prisons complexes do wonders on people's psyches.

[Twisted Titan]

The 24/7 news cycle is working; nothing to worry about here that we haven't seen before. This is what happens to people when they have been conditioned to fear their own shadows. Sadly, it portrays just how far gone society is when it cannot be rational about irrational situations. Once again these people are so wound up they fail to recognize their anger is artificially created by their input systems.

[Nordmann]

I recall in high school german class how the Austrian teacher marvelled that the germanic people were suckered by Hitler. Amerika is far worse than the german people of the 1930s.

When people get crushed and hungry, they will cheer for the enslaver who brings them a piece of bread.


This would only be a valid comparison if Hitler didn't actually liberate the German Reich and later on western Europa, which he in reality did by crushing the communist war machine at Stalingrad. I managed to press the "thank you" button on your post because i am high.

[General of Darkness]

I apologize to the group , for being way off topic here!

Mamboni I am sure you have seen and heard that married people tend to look alike.

Seeing your avatar and that picture of your dog , brought that thought to mind!

Strong resemblance there! :o

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I wonder why? :dunno

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/3504/countryschnauzer.jpg

[Ponce]

She must be a Cuban-German dog smoking that Cohiba.....

[Book]

I see little potential for people rising up. I see much more potential for them to be repressed and contained by fear...all those surveillance cameras, swat teams, and prisons complexes do wonders on people's psyches.



That's for the scary mooslim terrorists...not us.

:)

[LuckyStrike]

I recall in high school german class how the Austrian teacher marvelled that the germanic people were suckered by Hitler. Amerika is far worse than the german people of the 1930s.

When people get crushed and hungry, they will cheer for the enslaver who brings them a piece of bread.


This would only be a valid comparison if Hitler didn't actually liberate the German Reich and later on western Europa, which he in reality did by crushing the communist war machine at Stalingrad. I managed to press the "thank you" button on your post because i am high.


LOL I wondered, I was like nordmann actually thanked that post? The world IS falling apart. ;D

[LuckyStrike]

These verses came to mind when you said you don't want to be a hermit.

Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.


The people have been deceived by the anti christ. When you whittle away all the fluff, it is a spiritual battle, good vs evil. There are huge multitude of pastors who lead people down the road to destruction, they worship the anti christ, they repeat the same handful of watered down miss interpreted verses every week and this is enough for churchianity. Never will these heretics speak out against the beast or his system that has literally made slaves of the world. They are comfy in their 501c3 churches why would they rock the boat?

But I am telling you that you better get right with the Creator, because at the end of the day nothing else matters.

[Spectrism]

I recall in high school german class how the Austrian teacher marvelled that the germanic people were suckered by Hitler. Amerika is far worse than the german people of the 1930s.

When people get crushed and hungry, they will cheer for the enslaver who brings them a piece of bread.


This would only be a valid comparison if Hitler didn't actually liberate the German Reich and later on western Europa, which he in reality did by crushing the communist war machine at Stalingrad. I managed to press the "thank you" button on your post because i am high.


It was not meant as a comparison any more than riding horseback would compare to riding a jet airlplane. The people of Germany (and most places) of the 1930s were morally greater than those of Amerika of today. The next "savior" could be the spawn of Idi Amin, Charles Manson & Vlad the Impaler. The word "liberate" has different meanings now.

[LuckyStrike]

I recall in high school german class how the Austrian teacher marvelled that the germanic people were suckered by Hitler. Amerika is far worse than the german people of the 1930s.

When people get crushed and hungry, they will cheer for the enslaver who brings them a piece of bread.


This would only be a valid comparison if Hitler didn't actually liberate the German Reich and later on western Europa, which he in reality did by crushing the communist war machine at Stalingrad. I managed to press the "thank you" button on your post because i am high.


It was not meant as a comparison any more than riding horseback would compare to riding a jet airlplane. The people of Germany (and most places) of the 1930s were morally greater than those of Amerika of today. The next "savior" could be the spawn of Idi Amin, Charles Manson & Vlad the Impaler. The word "liberate" has different meanings now.


The problem I had with your statement is that it (possibly inadvertently) confirms jewish myths mainly that crap was bad after WWI in Germany so as we all know when things go bad people blame jews for no reason, and thus gave rise to Hitler who was the most evil person to ever live.

When in reality Hitler was by any measure the greatest leader Germany has ever had we would be lucky to have someone half as great. I know some here have issue with him the (AshkeNAZI crowd) but those issues aside, he did turn Germanys economy around in a decade, eradicated the cancer that is jewish marxism, and created unprecedented advances in technology. All are things we desperately need in this country.

So while the jewish controlled MSM laments the fact that bad economic times mean people wise up to who pulls the strings, this is not a bad thing.

[nunaem]

I recall in high school german class how the Austrian teacher marvelled that the germanic people were suckered by Hitler. Amerika is far worse than the german people of the 1930s.

When people get crushed and hungry, they will cheer for the enslaver who brings them a piece of bread.


This would only be a valid comparison if Hitler didn't actually liberate the German Reich and later on western Europa, which he in reality did by crushing the communist war machine at Stalingrad. I managed to press the "thank you" button on your post because i am high.


It was not meant as a comparison any more than riding horseback would compare to riding a jet airlplane. The people of Germany (and most places) of the 1930s were morally greater than those of Amerika of today. The next "savior" could be the spawn of Idi Amin, Charles Manson & Vlad the Impaler. The word "liberate" has different meanings now.


On the whole they certainly were superior. But Germany had lots of degenerates in the 1920's (http://www.amazon.com/Voluptuous-Panic-Erotic-Weimar-Expanded/dp/0922915962) as the US did. The Nazi uprising was partly a response to the degeneracy by Germany's 'moral majority'.
Unfortunately we only have a moral minority today, and most of them have been cowed into 'tolerance'.

[Spectrism]

I recall in high school german class how the Austrian teacher marvelled that the germanic people were suckered by Hitler. Amerika is far worse than the german people of the 1930s.

When people get crushed and hungry, they will cheer for the enslaver who brings them a piece of bread.


This would only be a valid comparison if Hitler didn't actually liberate the German Reich and later on western Europa, which he in reality did by crushing the communist war machine at Stalingrad. I managed to press the "thank you" button on your post because i am high.


It was not meant as a comparison any more than riding horseback would compare to riding a jet airlplane. The people of Germany (and most places) of the 1930s were morally greater than those of Amerika of today. The next "savior" could be the spawn of Idi Amin, Charles Manson & Vlad the Impaler. The word "liberate" has different meanings now.


The problem I had with your statement is that it (possibly inadvertently) confirms jewish myths mainly that crap was bad after WWI in Germany so as we all know when things go bad people blame jews for no reason, and thus gave rise to Hitler who was the most evil person to ever live.

When in reality Hitler was by any measure the greatest leader Germany has ever had we would be lucky to have someone half as great. I know some here have issue with him the (AshkeNAZI crowd) but those issues aside, he did turn Germanys economy around in a decade, eradicated the cancer that is jewish marxism, and created unprecedented advances in technology. All are things we desperately need in this country.

So while the jewish controlled MSM laments the fact that bad economic times mean people wise up to who pulls the strings, this is not a bad thing.


You see... this is where I think your hate for the Ashkenazi blinds you into seeing Hitler as a great leader. He was not. He destroyed the country and got millions killed. He allowed evil to flourish and cannot be guiltless. No, I don't see hitler as a good man. He was a very sick and evil man.

[nunaem]

Hitler and the National Socialists were neither angels nor demons.

[Ponce]

Spect?.........herr Hitler saved the Germans from becoming the Palestinians of Europe..........the Zionist already controlled just about everything like they have done here in the US.........if anything Herr Hitler saved his nation, even if he lost the war.

[Spectrism]

Spect?.........herr Hitler saved the Germans from becoming the Palestinians of Europe..........the Zionist already controlled just about everything like they have done here in the US.........if anything Herr Hitler saved his nation, even if he lost the war.


Oh that's Bolshevik. Hitler dealt with the money Joos and kept them safe. If his goal was to free the German people, he did not need to invade Europe.

[nunaem]

Spect?.........herr Hitler saved the Germans from becoming the Palestinians of Europe..........the Zionist already controlled just about everything like they have done here in the US.........if anything Herr Hitler saved his nation, even if he lost the war.


Oh that's Bolshevik. Hitler dealt with the money Joos and kept them safe. If his goal was to free the German people, he did not need to invade Europe.


I wouldn't call liberating the Germans of Danzig and then Britain and France declaring war on Hitler 'invading Europe'.

[Spectrism]

Spect?.........herr Hitler saved the Germans from becoming the Palestinians of Europe..........the Zionist already controlled just about everything like they have done here in the US.........if anything Herr Hitler saved his nation, even if he lost the war.


Oh that's Bolshevik. Hitler dealt with the money Joos and kept them safe. If his goal was to free the German people, he did not need to invade Europe.


I wouldn't call liberating the Germans of Danzig and then Britain and France declaring war on Hitler 'invading Europe'.


Have I been teleported to an alternate universe? My reasonometer is dead and my whackometer is going off the scale.

[Tumbleweed]

i need to get a dog. or dogs. :-\

i know what you are saying about big cities. my wife is from NYC. grew up there, the whole 9 yards. she is terrified of it now, won't go back, ever.


Consider the schnauzer: it too, though an animal, has been cultivated into a refined and sensitive creature that is both ferocious and cute.


Seeing that Schnauzer made me think of a story and I can't help myself I have to post it ;D


The lady goes to the drugstore and gets some Nair. At the register, the druggist tells her "If you're going to use this under your arms, don't use deodorant for a few days." The lady responds: "I'm not using it under my arms."
The druggist says: "If you're using it on your legs, don't shave for a couple of days." The lady answers: "I'm not using it on my legs either, and if you must know, I'm using it on my schnauzer."
The druggist says: "In that case, stay off your bicycle for a week."

source: http://www.jokebuddha.com/joke/Nair_usage#ixzz1As1kOGwk

[Libertytree]

The engineer must have fvcked up somewhere along the line because this thread has obviously been derailed. :-\

[nunaem]

Spect?.........herr Hitler saved the Germans from becoming the Palestinians of Europe..........the Zionist already controlled just about everything like they have done here in the US.........if anything Herr Hitler saved his nation, even if he lost the war.


Oh that's Bolshevik. Hitler dealt with the money Joos and kept them safe. If his goal was to free the German people, he did not need to invade Europe.


I wouldn't call liberating the Germans of Danzig and then Britain and France declaring war on Hitler 'invading Europe'.


Have I been teleported to an alternate universe? My reasonometer is dead and my whackometer is going off the scale.


Did Poland not stand in the way of the self-determination of German Danzig? Did France not declare war on Germany?

[Spectrism]

Spect?.........herr Hitler saved the Germans from becoming the Palestinians of Europe..........the Zionist already controlled just about everything like they have done here in the US.........if anything Herr Hitler saved his nation, even if he lost the war.


Oh that's Bolshevik. Hitler dealt with the money Joos and kept them safe. If his goal was to free the German people, he did not need to invade Europe.


I wouldn't call liberating the Germans of Danzig and then Britain and France declaring war on Hitler 'invading Europe'.


Have I been teleported to an alternate universe? My reasonometer is dead and my whackometer is going off the scale.


Did Poland not stand in the way of the self-determination of German Danzig? Did France not declare war on Germany?


Huh???? Maybe it was Algeria that stopped Germany from being Germany.... or Iraq. I have no idea what you are smoking. Somebody wake up that engineer and have him call the track repair crew.

[nunaem]

Spect?.........herr Hitler saved the Germans from becoming the Palestinians of Europe..........the Zionist already controlled just about everything like they have done here in the US.........if anything Herr Hitler saved his nation, even if he lost the war.


Oh that's Bolshevik. Hitler dealt with the money Joos and kept them safe. If his goal was to free the German people, he did not need to invade Europe.


I wouldn't call liberating the Germans of Danzig and then Britain and France declaring war on Hitler 'invading Europe'.


Have I been teleported to an alternate universe? My reasonometer is dead and my whackometer is going off the scale.


Did Poland not stand in the way of the self-determination of German Danzig? Did France not declare war on Germany?


Huh???? Maybe it was Algeria that stopped Germany from being Germany.... or Iraq. I have no idea what you are smoking. Somebody wake up that engineer and have him call the track repair crew.


Your confusion is contagious. I have no clue what you are talking about either. ??? I guess we'll leave it at that.

[gunDriller]

the last few days have been troubling for me. i've always operated under the assumption that there's a certain crazy town segment of the population, but for the most part, people are normal. i'm starting to doubt that.

people still need fellowship & respect honesty.

meanwhile, more & more people realize that they are in a fight for survival - and that the people at the top are playing as if there are no rules.

so yeah. got to keep one's guard up.

that's why i like great white sharks and other natural animal predators. at least they're honest.

[vacuum]

These verses came to mind when you said you don't want to be a hermit.

Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

So, according to the part you bolded, people should leave the US?

[sirgonzo420]

These verses came to mind when you said you don't want to be a hermit.

Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

So, according to the part you bolded, people should leave the US?



"Spiritually", I'd say yes.

I don't believe Rev 18:4 is talking about physical relocation.

[nunaem]

Yeah, I'd say it means metaphysical or mental departure.

Emigration wasn't as easy in those days as today.

This universalism is what caused many of the problems in the West, however. A people needs an in-group/out-group dichotomy to survive.

When Christians became literate in the 19th century and began actually reading and taking that retarded book seriously everything started going downhill. Fast. Before mass literacy the literati were smart enough to keep the dangerous universalist doctrines out of the minds of Christians.

[Ponce]

Let me put it this way........I the Arabs were to declared war on the Zionist nation of Israel and the wanabejews knew that they were loosing the war then they would send out a few nukes that would kill about 20 millions Arabs and ten million Cristians...........but............at the rate that the Zionist are going pretty soon there will be ONE BILLION people dead whithout the Zionist loosing one single IDF soldier because the US and other countries would be fighting THEIR wars........as we are now doing.

WAKE THE HELL UP.

First post of the day...............good morning to one and all.

[Book]

the last few days have been troubling for me. i've always operated under the assumption that there's a certain crazy town segment of the population, but for the most part, people are normal. i'm starting to doubt that.



We will know for sure if somebody posts a "Jackie Shot JFK" thread here at GSUS.

;)

[Awoke]

the last few days have been troubling for me. i've always operated under the assumption that there's a certain crazy town segment of the population, but for the most part, people are normal. i'm starting to doubt that.



We will know for sure if somebody posts a "Jackie Shot JFK" thread here at GSUS.

;)


http://blogs.soccernet.com/manchesterunited/middle-finger.jpg

[Horn]

the last few days have been troubling for me. i've always operated under the assumption that there's a certain crazy town segment of the population, but for the most part, people are normal. i'm starting to doubt that.

I noticed that too, this apparent psychotic & non-political event seems have isolated the current political camps into a psychotic frenzy.

Even my sister (who is/was completely non-political) seems to have had her head zapped by the HAARP gun lately.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

I wasn't going to say anything, but everybody I know is tired and "out of it" this last week.

[LuckyStrike]

These verses came to mind when you said you don't want to be a hermit.

Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

So, according to the part you bolded, people should leave the US?



"Spiritually", I'd say yes.

I don't believe Rev 18:4 is talking about physical relocation.


Absolutely.

To me it means come out of the world. Do not partake in the things of this world, in the debt system, in the shallow "culture". While I totally agree this is speaking of spiritually leaving the world I don't think it means that you shouldn't physically leave the world either (like the amish). I think some people can leave the world without physically relocating, but I think it's easier if you do.

In my opinion man was never meant to live like rats in a maze. We have cities and states so densely populated it's sickening. Only when you go somewhere rural and don't see many people do you realize how confined your cell is.

[Libertytree]

"Only when you go somewhere rural and don't see many people do you realize how confined your cell is."

Nordic, observation 1000% spot on!

[po boy]

chad quit being afraid stand tall speak your mind you know what is around the corner prep as you can and only expend energy on those who are worth it.