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cedarchopper
13th January 2011, 07:12 PM
http://dailybail.com/home/chinese-rating-agency-says-us-as-creditworthy-as-costco-pegs.html

The Chinese rating agency, which hit headlines earlier this year for its AA-view on the United States, is back, with another US downgrade.

From the 10-Page Downgrade Report

The serious defects in the United States economic development and management model will lead to the long-term recession of its national economy, fundamentally lowering the national solvency. The new round of quantitative easing monetary policy adopted by the Federal Reserve has brought about an obvious trend of depreciation of the U.S. dollar, and the continuation and deepening of credit crisis in the U.S.

Such a move entirely encroaches on the interests of the creditors, indicating the decline of the U.S. government’s intention of debt repayment. Analysis shows that the crisis confronting the U.S. cannot be ultimately resolved through currency depreciation. On the contrary, it is likely that an overall crisis might be triggered by the U.S. government’s policy to continuously depreciate the U.S. dollar against the will of creditors.

The total output value of the U.S. financial services industry is composed of two major parts: one is the transferred production value, most of which comes from value distribution of participating in international production. Another part is the inflated value originated from credit innovation, which belongs to bubble value.

In addition, due to the high economic financialization, more than half of the profits in the real economy come from the returns of financial activities. If we exclude the factor of virtual economy, the U.S. actual GDP is about 5 trillion U.S. dollars in 2009, per capita GDP about $ 15,000. Meanwhile, the total domestic consumption was 10.0 trillion U.S. dollars and government expenditure was 4.5 trillion U.S. dollars.

Dagong Global Credit Rating Company

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Reaction...

Chinese say U.S. as Creditworthy as Costco - WSJ

Taking Dagong’s downgrade at face value, Uncle Sam is now a credit on the level of Costco, based on the big box retailer’s Standard & Poor’s rating. The Treasury can take pride, however, in ranking a notch higher than “Government Sachs,” rated only A by S&P. Fortunately for U.S. taxpayers, who must foot the bill if the federal government’s borrowing costs go up, the market currently puts little credence in Dagong’s A+ U.S. ratings. According to Merrill Lynch, U.S. Treasury debt currently trades at a yield 66 basis points lower than the AAA corporate index.

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From earlier this summer...

Chinese rating agency strips Western nations of AAA status

China's leading credit rating agency has stripped America, Britain, Germany and France of their AAA ratings, accusing Anglo-Saxon competitors of ideological bias in favour of the West.

videos at link

chad
13th January 2011, 07:15 PM
pic 1: ah timmy, you make good point, full of shit, but good point...

pic 2: larry summers, you #1 dumbass!

osoab
13th January 2011, 07:17 PM
This comes on the heals of Gates getting snubbed/bitch slapped in China and on the "eve" on Hu Jintao visit to Chicago and to see Obummer.

How much of that GDP that is left is based on a "service" economy?

Ponce
13th January 2011, 07:23 PM
Body language tells me a lot about those two pictures, in the first one the guy is leaning forward in a begging position and in the second one the guy is really nervous.........compare those two to the president of China sitting back in a relaxed position with his arms fully extended.

mamboni
13th January 2011, 07:35 PM
pic 1: ah timmy, you make good point, full of shit, but good point...

pic 2: larry summers, you #1 dumbass!


Perfect, Chinese accent and all! ;D ;D ;D

"Stupid American pig-dog! You think you buy us off with your crappy paper. We invent even crappier paper centuries ago, rong before your country was nothing but a backwater corony shithole. We know only real money: gold and silver. Fort Knox empty you four frushing frim fram rittle man! You no pay us with real money then we gonna own you hairy ass, you hear me Timmy! Chop chop!! You tell you rittle friend, the Bernank, pay up with real money or else we break up his bond party chop chop!"

chad
13th January 2011, 07:37 PM
pic 1: ah timmy, you make good point, full of shit, but good point...

pic 2: larry summers, you #1 dumbass!


Perfect, Chinese accent and all! ;D ;D ;D

"Stupid American pig-dog! You think you buy us off with your crappy paper. We invent even crappier paper centuries ago, rong before your country was nothing but a backwater corony shithole. We know only real money: gold and silver. Fort Knox empty you four frushing frim fram rittle man! You no pay us with real money then we gonna own you hairy ass, you hear me Timmy! Chop chop!! You tell you rittle friend, the Bernank, pay up with real money or else we break up his bond party chop chop!"


;D

AWWWWWWWW.......Mitsubishi!

DMac
14th January 2011, 07:54 AM
If you remove the FED's "contributions" to the nation's GDP the number is probably a scant higher than $5 trillion. It certainly isn't $15 trillion.

Giving money to banks for free who then post returns of 4th q 47% growth (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/jp-morgan-profit-rises-by-47-2011-01-14?dist=beforebellJ.P. Morgan profit rises by 47%) does not count as a growing economy.

Spectrism
14th January 2011, 08:32 AM
This thread is funny. Somebody let the truth get out through the Chinese?

LOL... what a sense of humor fate has!


If I create (and I use that word loosely) another 10 million government do-nothing jobs, isn't that a wonderful increase to our GDP? When I print up $3trillion of FRNs, doen't that just add a whole bunch of value to the economy?