TWO bull sharks swimming down the main street of a flooded Queensland town

[Serpo]

TWO bull sharks have reportedly been spotted swimming down the main street of a flooded Queensland town, 30km inland.

Butcher Steven Bateman spotted two bull sharks swimming near his Goodna shop yesterday - one of several reports of a sharks in Goodna's main street.

Ipswich local councillor Paul Tully confirmed it was a bizarre but true story out of Queensland's flood disaster.

"It would have swum several kilometres in from the river, across Evan Marginson Park and the motorway,'' Cr Tully told The Queensland Times.

"It's definitely a first for Goodna, to have a shark in the main street.

"I know Steve (Bateman) and he wouldn't say he saw a shark unless he really saw one."

The local MP Jo-Ann Miller also said she believed Mr Bateman’s sighting was genuine.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/special-reports/bull-sharks-have-been-spotted-swimming-down-the-main-street-in-goodna-30km-from-the-coast/story-fn7kabp3-1225987897834

“Steve wouldn’t lie about something like that. He’s very well known in the community," she told The Queensland Times.

Bull sharks are the third most likely shark to attack a human being. They are noted for their aggressive behaviour and often swim in shallow waters along coasts and rivers.

They can tolerate fresh water and have been known travel long distances along rivers

[Glass]

I'm struck by how close to the wire people live. A lot of the stories I have read tell of people who have maybe a week of food available. Of course there is no power so people often have a lot of food but it is ruined because of the lack of power. Then there is water, medical care and so on. It's pretty desparate times for people in these places. I wouldn't want to be there. There are lessons to be learned for everyone who has the foresight to prep for times like these.

[kregener]

A flood would fuck up your preps in a big way. No matter how much food and water you had on hand.

[Dogman]

I'm struck by how close to the wire people live. A lot of the stories I have read tell of people who have maybe a week of food available. Of course there is no power so people often have a lot of food but it is ruined because of the lack of power. Then there is water, medical care and so on. It's pretty desparate times for people in these places. I wouldn't want to be there. There are lessons to be learned for everyone who has the foresight to prep for times like these.


Some lessons that come to mind, do not build or live in a flood plane ,period!
Store all dry good preps in water tight, proof containers, and try to process
all perishable food preps , into a form that stores well with out power! Such
as drying and canning.
I would imagine that most people living in those areas , may not have had a clue
they were living in a potential flood plane, tho the developers that built in those
areas did, In the us there are a lot of low laying areas across the country that are
built up and developed that never should have been, someday the people living
in those areas WILL pay the price of living where they live.

IMO

[Spectrism]

I'm struck by how close to the wire people live. A lot of the stories I have read tell of people who have maybe a week of food available. Of course there is no power so people often have a lot of food but it is ruined because of the lack of power. Then there is water, medical care and so on. It's pretty desparate times for people in these places. I wouldn't want to be there. There are lessons to be learned for everyone who has the foresight to prep for times like these.


Some lessons that come to mind, do not build or live in a flood plane ,period!
Store all dry good preps in water tight, proof containers, and try to process
all perishable food preps , into a form that stores well with out power! Such
as drying and canning.
I would imagine that most people living in those areas , may not have had a clue
they were living in a potential flood plane, tho the developers that built in those
areas did, In the us there are a lot of low laying areas across the country that are
built up and developed that never should have been, someday the people living
in those areas WILL pay the price of living where they live.

IMO




Agreed.

If you are not sure whether you are in a flood plain, it is real simple. Are you within a 30 foot drop of flat running water? (Flat running water meaning it is not just a mountain stream but a significant settled flow.) Are you within 12 miles of the coast and at an elevation of less than 100 feet?

Growing up I watched homes along rivers wash away and saw how "100 year" floods covered towns. It makes no sense to park in an area that can flood next week.

I look at this the same way as a volcano. Don't live on the side of a volcano or within 30 miles of one.

[Awoke]

A flood would fuck up your preps in a big way. No matter how much food and water you had on hand.


I have two words in asnwer to that: CANNED. GOODS.

I would lose my rice and pasta stores, but I have a lot of canned vegetables, potatoes, meats, fruits, etc. Water won't damage it. However it would be prudent to buy some large liquid-tight pails with lids to store my spoilable stores...

[gunDriller]

Bull sharks are the third most likely shark to attack a human being. They are noted for their aggressive behaviour and often swim in shallow waters along coasts and rivers.

They can tolerate fresh water and have been known travel long distances along rivers


bull sharks are heavy duty.

they attack differently than great whites. usually when a great white attacks, it takes one bite, which is part test bite, to see what it's eating, and part incapacitation bite. if it decides it likes what it just bit, it waits a few minutes then comes back for lunch. usually, with humans, the shark doesn't come back, because we don't feel like a seal.

but with a bull shark ... they just start biting. and eating. your human flesh. not good. hard to tell what's worse, the shark attack itself or the shylocks in the hospital who charge $50K to treat a SIMPLE bite.

[hoarder]

Back in the eighties when I worked offshore in the Gulf of Mexico, we used to catch Bull Sharks. We would put a bait fish about 2 feet long on a large hook with a stainless cable leader and set it in the water with the crane. The wave action would set the hook. Then we could lift him out of the water with the crane.
A Bull Shark will have the largest jaws of any shark for it's size. An eleven foot shark had jaws big enough for someone to easily crawl through.

[gunDriller]

Back in the eighties when I worked offshore in the Gulf of Mexico, we used to catch Bull Sharks. We would put a bait fish about 2 feet long on a large hook with a stainless cable leader and set it in the water with the crane. The wave action would set the hook. Then we could lift him out of the water with the crane.
A Bull Shark will have the largest jaws of any shark for it's size. An eleven foot shark had jaws big enough for someone to easily crawl through.


are the Bull Sharks good eating ?

because of concerns about mercury, which tends to accumulate in apex predators like great whites, i wonder if bottom-feeder sharks would have less mercury.

[hoarder]

I don't know about the mercury. Most sharks are edible. In general, shark meat isn't that good. If you catch a shark, skin it immediately. They urinate through their skin. Then cube it and soak the cubes in buckets with about a pound of salt. The salt will make an oily scum float to the surface which you skim off.
If you go to Long John Silvers or some of the other chain fried fish (species undisclosed) places, it's often shark meat, or at least was a decade ago. If battered and fried it's OK.

[DMac]

Mako steaks are delicious.

That's some bad news for the Auzzies about 2 bull sharks. Those things are angry little devils.

[gunDriller]

this sounds like the beginning of a joke.

"TWO bull sharks swimming down the main street of a flooded Queensland town".

one shark says to the other -- ?

[jetgraphics]

Some lessons that come to mind, do not build or live in a flood plane ,period!

That's unrealistic, and counter productive.
Some of the best agricultural land is found in flood plains.
However, one can engineer solutions to minimize damage caused by floods.

Current engineering suggests building levees to contain rivers, or upstream dams.

There's another possibility:
http://www.ozmirage.org/anic/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=6

If the dual ring village had its exterior wall built as strong as a levee, each village would be a refuge during a flood.

The aftermath of Katrina might not have been as dire if the area had been built as self-contained walled villages.

The idea of a flood proof island is not new. If you check out the many "Indian mounds", they all are located in flood plains. I suspect that they were more useful as 'high ground' during a flood than as a religious structure.

[Serpo]

this sounds like the beginning of a joke.

"TWO bull sharks swimming down the main street of a flooded Queensland town".

one shark says to the other -- ?


f#%kin pubs shut.....

[Serpo]

Solar panel shock warning issued
ABC January 15, 2011, 1:28 am
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/australian-news/8653939/solar-panel-shock-warning-issued/


People with solar panels whose houses are flooded are being warned the panels will still be producing electricity and could cause a deadly electric shock.

The New South Wales Department of Fair Trade says solar panels will continue to generate electricity even if the home is disconnected from the state grid.

Michael Cooper from Fair Trade says the panels produce more than enough electricity to electrocute a person.

"These panels will generate electricity during daylight hours," he said.

"This will occur even [though] the electricity from the state grid may have been disconnected from the home and we're not sure that consumers are aware that there's a potential hazard in their home from these panels."

Mr Cooper says the solar panels can produce a shock of up to 240 volts - more than enough to kill someone - and flood victims with solar panels need to contact their electrician or solar technician before returning to their home.

"If they've had panels installed they should ring the installer who is more than qualified to recommission their solar system to ensure that the appropriate safety measures are in place," he said.
"If they cannot get onto their original installer then they should contact a qualified electrician who has experience in DC electrical generation."

[Ponce]

Ponce <----------adding a life vest and shark repellent to his supply ;D...................not really, I am 1,620 obove sea level..............but just in case I am now building "Ponce's Ark" hahahahahaahahha........I can only hope that it will be the size that I need for all my tp.

[Dogman]

Ponce <----------adding a life vest and shark repellent to his supply ;D...................not really, I am 1,620 obove sea level..............but just in case I am now building "Ponce's Ark" hahahahahaahahha........I can only hope that it will be the size that I need for all my tp.


:ROFL:

http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://images.quickblogcast.com/6/9/2/4/4/253735-244296/BathtubBoat.JPG%3Fa%3D67&sa=X&ei=m5swTYfkE8Kblge107itCg&ved=0CAQQ8wc4FA&usg=AFQjCNGZt89ly_wcdySma0tuCn152ktPIA

[Ponce]

LOLLLLLLLLLLL puppy, good one........and specially when, about 15 years ago, a couple of Cuban did try to come to the US that way from Cuba.......the US Coast Guard found them before arriving to US shores.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

For sharks, you need a bang stick.

http://www.beco-products.com/images/product/MVC-230X.JPG

http://www.municion.org/curiosidades/Bangstick04G.jpg

It loads only one round at a time, but it works underwater. You fire it by pressing the muzzle INTO the shark. When the muzzle compresses, it fires. And they have some that look like beach canes : )

[Ponce]

I like more the one that I came up with.....at one end a heavy needle and at the other end a small bottle of pressurize air (good for 20 shots), you hit the shark with the heavy needle and by itself the gun will shoot X ammount pound of air into the shark....it explodes in the inside.......no need to reload for 20 shots.

Another one of "on the shelf" ideas from about 25 years ago.

For this one I experimented with a hell of a big chunk of meat that cost me $150.00.

[horseshoe3]

That's unrealistic, and counter productive.
Some of the best agricultural land is found in flood plains.


Just because you farm on a flood plane doesn't mean you have to live on it. I live in KS, which is supposedly pretty flat. Even here, if you get back 1/4 mile from the creek, you are absolutely safe in most places. Farm right up to the banks of the creek, but build your house back a few hundred yards and you'll never have any problems.

[Awoke]

Man punches shark to save pet Dog (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/man-punches-shark-to-save-pet-dog-13988971.html)

Surfer punches Shark, surfs to safety (http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hxJ9_yXsp4zv3gYqleIvedVBx6bg)


Haha, these guys are funny in the video...

Surf Photographer punches shark as it bears down on him, but first snaps photo (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/10/earlyshow/living/petplanet/main6853015.shtml)

[Ponce]

Ponce <---------nothing more to do with water, won't even drink it, or take a bath ::)

[keehah]

It works!

http://thailandaviation.blogspot.com/2010/08/thai-rain-making-comes-to-queensland.html

AAP

A rain-making method developed by Thai king Bhumipol Adulyadej is set to aid Queensland in battles with drought after an agreement between the state government and the Thai royal household.

The Queensland government's access to the rain-making technology, developed by King Bhumipol over the past 30 years, came a year after the state approached the royal household last year.

As a result, Queensland is set to be the first major region outside Thailand where the rain-making technology will be put into full effect.

[gunDriller]

Man punches shark to save pet Dog (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/man-punches-shark-to-save-pet-dog-13988971.html)

i think i could probably write a book about shark stories.

one of my favorites is that of John Forse, who also started the Nelscott Reef Surfing Contest. he is definitely one of the most fearless and near-insane surfers out there.

he was attacked by a great white at his home-break. i saw operating room pics. his body was compressed by the shark's mouth ... the net result of that action was that a 3" long tooth was buried 6 to 9 inches deep in his thigh.

and since the shark has more than one tooth ... his butt and thigh looked like someone had gone to work with a large & razor sharp butcher knife.

and the dude was insane enough to insist that photos be taken and that the surgeons videotape him. he's literally laying on the gurney dying from blood loss, demanding to have the whole thing videotaped.

then he decides to re-enact the shark attack incident. with his dog as the victim. the dog survived, but it sure put the dog at risk. yes he took his own pooch into the cold Oregon ocean and made it swim around so he could re-enact the shark attack.

Forse then started the Nelscott Reef surf contest.

this thread needs pics -

http://surferspath.mpora.com/wp-content/uploads/old_images/uploads/news/nelscott-big.jpg

the man's a serious adrenaline junkie, with a side order of exhibitionist.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Ponce <---------nothing more to do with water, won't even drink it, or take a bath ::)


The moment we step in the ocean, instantly we are the bottom of the food chain