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Bullion_Bob
15th January 2011, 01:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqVE9qfg7yI

solid
15th January 2011, 02:10 PM
Neat video! That was one Wile E Coyote. ;D

Beautiful animal actually, very agile and quick. I wonder if he was more playing than trying to attack however.

Dogman
15th January 2011, 02:12 PM
Neat video! That was one Wile E Coyote. ;D

Beautiful animal actually, very agile and quick. I wonder if he was more playing than trying to attack however.


Compared to dogs , that looked more like play/jacking with them!

7th trump
15th January 2011, 02:34 PM
Thats a small young inexperienced pup.
If it were an adult he wouldnt be playing with it........more like running for the nearest tree to climb up.
They run in packs like wolves and he would be in serious trouble.

midnight rambler
15th January 2011, 02:40 PM
Don't kid yourselves, that coyote will make a meal out of that guy the first chance he gets. It's a wild animal and he views that man as just another animal out in the woods. Get a grip.

Remember how cute Bambi is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNGGbozilko

bellevuebully
15th January 2011, 03:07 PM
Nice vid.

Looked like Alberta foothills or North eastern slope in BC rockies......probably an oil/gas patch worker.

Thanks for posting.

hoarder
15th January 2011, 03:41 PM
That yote will be a big problem for someone soon.

Cobalt
15th January 2011, 03:56 PM
It was just playing, never once did I see the hackles stand up in an aggressive manner, the guy is lucky he didn't get nipped when extending his hand out though

hoarder
15th January 2011, 04:07 PM
Hostility and agression are two different things. When canines get real hungry, they get real intense and real agressive. Next time it could be a woman or child, and if that person showed the slightest fear it could be tragic.
He should have dispatched the yote.

vacuum
15th January 2011, 04:15 PM
What the coyote was doing looked playful but imagine if there were 5 of them doing the same thing. One behind you takes a nip then when you turn another one does the same thing, then you're on the ground being torn apart.

MAGNES
15th January 2011, 04:15 PM
WOW ! That is crazy, I have never seen anything like that, ever,
I have never even heard of a story like this, and I have seen
and heard a lot about coyotes, they have devastated the wildlife
around here, no more small game hunting. That footage is serious,
that dog needs to be put down immediately. It looks like a pup still.

Coyotes hide and are very shy, peoples pets go missing and tracks
are the only evidence , many times in packs, for a dog like that with
no fear going after a person ? I live in suburbia on edge of wilderness,
they are coming down to city, only last couple of years, never seen
that before, odd time you may see back end running away in distance
on forest walking trails around here, even that is unusual, only tracks
and poop give them away.

As a pack your dog stands no chance and a small kid, that pup you saw
will take it, a pack may be only 2 or 3, they are very smart hunters
working together.

SLV^GLD
15th January 2011, 04:25 PM
...only tracks and poop give them away.That's what she said... err... nevermind.

StackerKen
15th January 2011, 04:26 PM
That is the best looking coyote I have ever seen.

Coyotes are Not that brave...I think that may have been someone's pet.

Normally a coyote would never attack something larger than it's self

I think Most coyotes are loaners...They don't usually hunt in packs


I Googled it, and this is what I found, from the GA WIldlife site.


By nature, coyotes are timid and shy animals that tend to steer clear of any potential danger and thus pose little threat to humans. Contrary to popular belief, these animals do not hunt in packs but rather are primarily solitary hunters. Despite these characteristics, problems sometimes do occur as these predators become increasingly tolerant of human interactions.
:dunno

Rebel Yarr
15th January 2011, 04:47 PM
yes, that thing has been fed by humans - very pretty pretty and well fed sucker - could have a bit of wolf in it actually.

BabushkaLady
15th January 2011, 04:50 PM
That was a very young coyote! I recently had a similar experience out in the yard . . . the big black lab was crazy barking. He doesn't usually bark at the deer, so I looked out to see a good sized coyote digging in the snow under an apple tree. I went back in to get my camera which always sits near the back door. My husky couldn't stand it any longer---out she went--pushing the outer door to get out. No sense calling her back--she's very territorial. They both followed the coyote up the hill and to the edge of the orchard. The coyote would run, then stop and look back. Finally my dogs figured they did their jobs and came back to the house. I put them inside and sat on the metal trash cans waiting to see what the coyote was going to do. He back tracked and came back into the yard. He kept is distance on the far side of the orchard (about 30 yards) and we just stared at each other. He sat there as long as I did! When I finally got up, he turned around and headed up the hill away from the house. He seemed curious and not at all afraid.

I was going to shoot off a gun just to get him to go on--but he never seemed intent on staying anyway. Mostly I was surprised to see him alone. I sometimes hear a pack around at night. I usually only see a few tracks out in the hills, not big group.

On another topic; I found my first antler shed of the season yesterday in the snow! It is from a very small buck that frequents the orchard. I was just laughing about his "one" antler missing the other day. Nice of him to leave it on my trail!

7th trump
15th January 2011, 04:57 PM
Coyotes are not in the dog family. Dogs are related to the wolf, not coyote.

Around here in eastern Iowa we are getting more and more Cougar and big cat sighting. Last year going up north past Dubuque I saw probably a 50lb cougar the size of a Sheperd which was what it was at first glance. But the distinct rounded ass end typical of feline caused me to take a second look and sure enough...................cougar!
They are migrating down from the black hill of the Dakota's to eastern Iowa along the Mississippi River which prime hunting ground with the steep slopes and cliffs.
There was a man hunt for a big cat that attached a child playing in his yard in upper eastern Iowa last year. Didnt kill the boy but chewed him up abit. They eventually tracked the cat and put it down.
Theres also a story local to Davenport that a deer hunter in a stand dropped a cat that was pirched up a few feet away from where he was just watching the hunter in the dark. The hunter didnt know the cat (big cat) was there until day break where he called in to see if it was legal to kill it. DNR freind said to kill it. Turned out to be a 50-60lb male cougar.
Makes you just want to carry a side arm in the midwest just to go berry picking.

midnight rambler
15th January 2011, 05:06 PM
It was just playing,


You don't understand WILDlife.

As was mentioned, 2 or 3 of those acting in the same manner would have him on the ground in a matter of minutes.

I was working at someone's house a few months ago and three ankle-biting Bichon Frise dogs did the surround and attack number on me - I was getting concerned I was going to have to hurt one or more of them. They didn't do this just once, those three did it several times. And those are very small domestic dogs. Dogs in packs are very, very dangerous and not something to overlook.

I'm with hoarder, he should have dispatched it before it causes some real harm.

Tumbleweed
15th January 2011, 05:54 PM
That coyote wasn't playing. He should have been shot as others here have said.

MAGNES
15th January 2011, 05:59 PM
I got lots of coyote stories, we hunt, also my dog came from a farmer
that has huge coyote problems, coyotes do hunt in packs, I live in a
major city suburb on edge, you can go just a bit north of my house and there
is 3 coyotes always there, I have an English Fox hound that has flushed
them out while hunting, 3 at a time in fields, this is unusual, my dog has killed
a coyote, he was also bitten once. They will kill your dog too as a pack, they herd
and ambush animals as a pack, we have seen this,
my dog wears a bell when we go out, without the bell he would be dead
with 3 coyotes on him. The coyotes usually get flushed out and chased
away temporarily, we go for jack rabbits, but they have been
totally devastated as a population, coyotes pack hunt them, we can
even see their tactics in the snow.

hoarder
15th January 2011, 06:08 PM
The coyote would run, then stop and look back.

Your Black Lab male?
Often, a pack of yotes will lure dogs away from homes by sending in a bitch in heat. The pet dog will follow and get intercepted by the pack. No dog has a chance against a pack of yotes, they'll go through a dog like a buzzsaw.

willie pete
15th January 2011, 06:20 PM
Coyotes are not in the dog family. Dogs are related to the wolf, not coyote.

Around here in eastern Iowa we are getting more and more Cougar and big cat sighting. Last year going up north past Dubuque I saw probably a 50lb cougar the size of a Sheperd which was what it was at first glance. But the distinct rounded ass end typical of feline caused me to take a second look and sure enough...................cougar!
They are migrating down from the black hill of the Dakota's to eastern Iowa along the Mississippi River which prime hunting ground with the steep slopes and cliffs.
There was a man hunt for a big cat that attached a child playing in his yard in upper eastern Iowa last year. Didnt kill the boy but chewed him up abit. They eventually tracked the cat and put it down.
Theres also a story local to Davenport that a deer hunter in a stand dropped a cat that was pirched up a few feet away from where he was just watching the hunter in the dark. The hunter didnt know the cat (big cat) was there until day break where he called in to see if it was legal to kill it. DNR freind said to kill it. Turned out to be a 50-60lb male cougar.
Makes you just want to carry a side arm in the midwest just to go berry picking.



But IF I had too.....I'd rather take my chances with a coyote or even a wolf versus a cougar or other large cat

I don't think coyotes even get that big, wolves are bigger and heavier, but still, I don't think they get as big as say a full grown cougar.....

I just checked..according to wiki, a full grown cougar can weigh twice as much as a full grown wolf could weigh :o ...I'm thinking your odds would be better with the wolf :D

gunDriller
15th January 2011, 06:26 PM
if you have an animal 50 to 100 pounds and the right thing to do is to kill it - how much meat would you get out of the coyote do you think ?

hoarder
15th January 2011, 06:29 PM
I don't think coyotes even get that big, wolves are bigger and heavier, but still, I don't think they get as big as say a full grown cougar.....

I just checked..according to wiki, a full grown cougar can weigh twice as much as a full grown wolf could weigh :o ...I'm thinking your odds would be better with the wolf :D
Around here the wolves can get up to 120 pounds.

A good wolf site for your perusal:
http://saveelk.com/

7th trump
15th January 2011, 06:41 PM
Coyotes are not in the dog family. Dogs are related to the wolf, not coyote.

Around here in eastern Iowa we are getting more and more Cougar and big cat sighting. Last year going up north past Dubuque I saw probably a 50lb cougar the size of a Sheperd which was what it was at first glance. But the distinct rounded ass end typical of feline caused me to take a second look and sure enough...................cougar!
They are migrating down from the black hill of the Dakota's to eastern Iowa along the Mississippi River which prime hunting ground with the steep slopes and cliffs.
There was a man hunt for a big cat that attached a child playing in his yard in upper eastern Iowa last year. Didnt kill the boy but chewed him up abit. They eventually tracked the cat and put it down.
Theres also a story local to Davenport that a deer hunter in a stand dropped a cat that was pirched up a few feet away from where he was just watching the hunter in the dark. The hunter didnt know the cat (big cat) was there until day break where he called in to see if it was legal to kill it. DNR freind said to kill it. Turned out to be a 50-60lb male cougar.
Makes you just want to carry a side arm in the midwest just to go berry picking.



But IF I had too.....I'd rather take my chances with a coyote or even a wolf versus a cougar or other large cat

I don't think coyotes even get that big, wolves are bigger and heavier, but still, I don't think they get as big as say a full grown cougar.....

I just checked..according to wiki, a full grown cougar can weigh twice as much as a full grown wolf could weigh :o ...I'm thinking your odds would be better with the wolf :D

You are damn skippy your odds are better!

Santa
15th January 2011, 07:14 PM
Coyotes are not in the dog family. Dogs are related to the wolf, not coyote.

For the sake of accuracy,... dogs, coyotes and wolves are all members of the same canine genus.
Coyotes can and do interbreed with both dogs and wolves from which as many as 19 known subspecies
exist in the Americas.
For instance, the Gray Wolf (Canis Lupus), the Coyote (Canis Latrans) and the Domestic Dog (Canis Lupus familiaris)... The name Canis means "dog" in Latin. The word canine comes from the adjective form, caninus ("of the dog"), from which the term canine tooth is also derived.[3] The canine family has prominent canine teeth, used for killing their prey.

Thus, Coyotes are "dogs" who are capable of both mating with a Black Lab or preying on one. :D

StackerKen
16th January 2011, 07:21 PM
I just got this today in an email from my sister.
I think I have seen it before and im sure some of you have too.
But I thought I would post it here anyway :)





New York

The Governor Elect of New York is jogging with his dog along a nature trail. A coyote jumps out, bites the Governor, and attacks his dog.

1. The Governor starts to intervene, but reflects upon the movie "Bambi", then realizes he should stop, the coyote is only doing what's natural.

2. He calls Animal Control. Animal Control captures the coyote and bills the state $200 for testing it for diseases and $500 for relocating it.

3. He calls a veterinarian. The vet collects the dead dog and bills the state $200 for testing it for disease.

4. The Governor goes to a hospital and spends $3,500 getting checked for disease from the coyote and for getting his bite wound bandaged.

5. The running trail is shut down for 6 months, while Fish & Game conducts their $100,000 survey to make sure the area is free of dangerous animals.

6. The Governor next spends $150,000 in state funds, implementing a "Coyote Awareness" program for residents of the area.

7. The State Legislature spends $2 million to study how to better treat rabies and how to permanently eradicate the disease, throughout the world.

8. The Governor's security agent is fired for not somehow stopping the attack and for letting the Governor attempt to intervene.

9. Additional cost to State of New York : $175,000 to hire and train a new security agent with additional special training re: The Nature of Coyotes.

10. PETA protests the coyote's relocation and files suit against the state.

Governor Brewer Of Arizona is jogging, with her dog, along a nature trail.
A coyote jumps out and attacks her dog.

1. The Governor shoots the coyote with her state-issued pistol and keeps jogging.

The Governor has spent $0.50 on a .45 ACP hollow-point cartridge.

2. Arizona buzzards eat the dead coyote.

And that, my friends, is why New York is broke

the biss
16th January 2011, 07:35 PM
First thing that popped into my wind was, "That animal is rabid."

General of Darkness
16th January 2011, 08:34 PM
Ohhh look how cute. Fuck that. Shoot it dead. Coyotes will kill children and are basically jewish dogs. They'll try and gain your trust and then destroy everything without any consequences.

StackerKen
16th January 2011, 08:40 PM
Ohhh look how cute. fuck that. Shoot it dead.


Had to laugh...

I love critters of all kinds...But Rattlesnakes and Coyotes get shot if I see them on my land.

zap
16th January 2011, 09:28 PM
I'll never forget the first time I heard the yelping or calling our dogs out, most sicking sound I have ever heard, kinda like a person screaming and babies screaming/crying. The yelping one click on it.

http://library.thinkquest.org/05aug/00260/facts/call.html

Ash_Williams
17th January 2011, 06:18 AM
People have probably been feeding it and then trying to touch it.

SLV^GLD
17th January 2011, 07:54 AM
The Governor has spent $0.50 on a .45 ACP hollow-point cartridge.
That's seems strange considering the gun used in the coyote confrontation was a Ruger LCP chambered in .380. ;)

gunDriller
17th January 2011, 08:00 AM
i like dogs, but ... free fur, free meat ... except for the time to butcher them ... if it comes to that.

what does coyote taste like, BESIDES CHICKEN ?

Awoke
17th January 2011, 08:10 AM
I have a friend that talked to a vet, and the vet confirmed that he could use the coyote meat to dry out and prepare as kibble for his dog, and it would not hurt his dog.

Zap, hunting in Ontario, you hear packs of coyotes yelping like that all the time. Where my brother hunts is coyote-ridden, and when he walks out of the bush, he is easily withing 60ft of packs that have anywhere between 6 to 20 dogs. They don;t yelp like that when they are actively hunting, it's a social thing as far as I understand it.

Either way, I never go in the bush without a 9 inch bowie knife at the ready. (I usually bow hunt, so I don't have firearms with me)

I also know I guy I work with who had a small calf corpse which was still-born. He put it out in the center of the edge of a field, and killed over 90 coyotes that tried to feast over the summer. Where we live, coyotes and wolves are open season, no limit, with a small-game licence. I personally haven't shot any yet, but I would love to, because they are decimating our deer population and patterns.

solid
17th January 2011, 08:38 AM
I also know I guy I work with who had a small calf corpse which was still-born. He put it out in the center of the edge of a field, and killed over 90 coyotes that tried to feast over the summer. Where we live, coyotes and wolves are open season, no limit, with a small-game licence. I personally haven't shot any yet, but I would love to, because they are decimating our deer population and patterns.


That's real interesting, Awoke. I've seen some ranchers in remote areas hang dead coyotes on fence posts, I presume, to warn other coyotes to stay away. I've often wondered if that was effective.

Awoke
17th January 2011, 08:53 AM
I also know I guy I work with who had a small calf corpse which was still-born. He put it out in the center of the edge of a field, and killed over 90 coyotes that tried to feast over the summer. Where we live, coyotes and wolves are open season, no limit, with a small-game licence. I personally haven't shot any yet, but I would love to, because they are decimating our deer population and patterns.


That's real interesting, Awoke. I've seen some ranchers in remote areas hang dead coyotes on fence posts, I presume, to warn other coyotes to stay away. I've often wondered if that was effective.


I'm not sure if that would keep them away, or draw them in. They will eat their own, so it's hard to guess whether they figure that the hung coyote carcass was a warning or a free dinner.

zap
17th January 2011, 09:46 AM
It is always very quite here you don't hear anything, other then the crickets or frogs sometimes, I only heard the yelping once and it echoed through the canyons.

Spectrism
17th January 2011, 09:53 AM
The guy was armed with a camera and appeared to have no gloves. Hmmm.

I saw a hungry animal looking for a quick blood meal. Don't offer your hand to a hungry animal.

If it was me, I would have grabbed that sucker and strangled it. Then I would have a beautiful coyote fur.

Many ways to dispatch them. He was unarmed. He could also grab a tail or leg and whack it onto the road. A sharp kick to the ribs would probably have been the safest way.

Others are right- and this guy knew too- that the animal will have less fear with the next human encounter. Let it grow 20 pounds and an inexperienced person will have a bad day with that little fella.

mick silver
17th January 2011, 09:55 AM
i see coyotes all the time . i have never heard of them hurting anyone . but i guess if there hungry anything gos then

DMac
17th January 2011, 10:00 AM
I have zero tolerance with wild animals. I probably would have kicked it in the face if it got that close to me.

Outside of the home we are no longer the top of the food chain. Wild animals need to be reminded not to mess around with people.

solid
17th January 2011, 11:11 AM
I'm not sure if that would keep them away, or draw them in. They will eat their own, so it's hard to guess whether they figure that the hung coyote carcass was a warning or a free dinner.


I found this article with a search. It looks like hanging coyotes is an old way of warning other ranchers there's predators in the area. Interesting, never would have guessed that!

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/hillcountry/entries/2009/01/06/dead_coyotes_along_fence_an_ol.html

Tumbleweed
17th January 2011, 01:40 PM
The coyotes I've seen hanging on a fence post were there just to piss off the people who don't want them shot. If it's winter and the pelts are prime they are sold to fur buyers.