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nunaem
17th January 2011, 01:29 AM
This isn't to stir up a sex war. The basic truth of this is hard to deny.



The Garbage Generation
Chapter I
The Pathology of the Female-headed Family



"Women," wrote Ramsey Clark in 1970, in his celebrated book Crime in America, "are not a threat to the public." But he also wrote, in discussing the male juvenile criminals who are a threat to the public, that "three-fourths came from broken homes." That means mostly female-headed homes. That means that while the single mothers of these criminals do not themselves commit crimes and go to prison, the socialization they give their children has an extraordinarily high correlation with the male crime of the next generation. This socialization, in fact, is the "root cause of crime" which Clark wrote his book to explore. He had found the explanation he sought and he didn't know it. It was concealed by the generation-long time-lag between cause and effect and by the sex-switch between generations: like hemophilia, crime is manifested in males but carried and transmitted by females--or rather by single females. Instead of seeing the true connection, Clark gave his readers this:

"If we are to deal meaningfully with crime, what must be seen is the dehumanizing effect on the individual of slums, racism, ignorance and violence, of corruption and impotence to fulfill rights, of poverty and unemployment and idleness, of generations of malnutrition, of congenital brain damage and prenatal neglect, of sickness and disease, of pollution, of decrepit, dirty, ugly, unsafe, overcrowded housing, of alcoholism and narcotics addiction, of avarice, anxiety, fear, hatred, hopelessness and injustice. These are the fountainheads of crime."

Not so. If we are to deal meaningfully with crime, what must be seen is its relationship with the female-headed family. Most criminals come from female-headed families. Most gang members come from female-headed families. Most addicts come from female-headed families. Most rapists come from female-headed families. Most educational failures come from female-headed families. Every presidential assassin before Hinckley came from a female-headed family or one in which he had an impossibly bad relationship with his father. Most illegitimate births occur to females who themselves grew up in female-headed families.

If we are to deal meaningfully with crime, what we must do is reduce the number of female-headed families; what we must do is prevent the divorce courts from expelling half of society's fathers from their homes; what we must do is terminate a welfare system which displaces millions of men from the principal male role, that of family-provider. What we must do is make the father the head of the family.

The female role, says Margaret Mead, is a biological fact; the male role is a social creation. This is the primary reality concerning human society. Motherhood has been the dominant feature of mammalian life since its beginning some two hundred million years ago, most conspicuously since the great reptiles became extinct and the Age of Mammals began sixty-five million years ago. Fatherhood in the sense of major male participation in reproduction is only a few million years old. Fatherhood in the sense of male headship of families is only a few thousand years old.

What is happening to our society is that it is discarding patriarchal sexual regulation and reverting to the primeval mammalian pattern of a reproductive unit consisting of the mother and her offspring, the male putting in an appearance to perform his minuscule sexual function and then disappearing or being hauled away to the sausage factory or being reduced to the role of stud who can be discarded when his female tires of him. "Men and women," rejoices feminist-anthropologist Helen Fisher, "are moving toward the kind of roles they had on the grasslands of Africa millions of years ago....Human society is now discovering its ancient roots....The recent trend toward divorce and remarriage is another example of a throwback to earlier times....[T]he so-called new extended family [read: broken family] may actually have evolved millennia ago....At long last, society is moving in a direction that should be highly compatible with our ancient human spirit....The 'traditional' role of women is a recent invention."

Biologically speaking, it is indeed a recent invention, scarcely older than the civilization which it made possible and which emerged coevally with it and created the wealth which reconciled women to accepting it. But women's new economic independence is leading them to yearn for a return to the prehistoric mammalian arrangement. "[W]herever women are economically powerful," says Fisher, "divorce rates are high. You see it in the Kung and you see it in the United States." Let's say, wherever women are economically powerful and there are no social guarantees to ensure male headship of families, divorce rates are high--such being the case among the Kung and the Americans. The Kung have no social guarantees to ensure male headship of families because the Kung never emerged from the Stone Age. The Americans have no social guarantees to ensure male headship of families because there exists an elementary confusion in the heads of policy makers, lawmakers and judges, who imagine that the obvious strength of the biological tie between the mother and the infant (the "biological fact" Margaret Mead refers to) means that it requires their assistance. A biological fact does not require the services of the legal system. What does require these services is the weakest biological link in the family, the role of the father. It was the creation of this role--only a few thousand years ago--which made patriarchal civilization possible. Prior to that, mankind had to muddle through the million years of the Stone Age with the female-headed reproductive arrangements of the ghetto, the barnyard and the rain forest.

The rest of the book can be found here:
http://www.fisheaters.com/garbagegeneration.html

beefsteak
17th January 2011, 02:57 AM
Hate to say this, but that is misogynist garbage.

nunaem
17th January 2011, 03:23 AM
Just focus on the last 3 paragraphs. The role of the father in the family unit is a social construct, not a natural one like the mother. But our legal system only serves to reinforce the already strengthened role of the mother at the expense of the already tenuous role of the father.

Agrippa
17th January 2011, 05:10 AM
Marriage is largely a social construct. Once this is in place, "Fatherhood" in the sense used in the OP becomes possible: as fathers now know who their children are. This makes male investment in the support of their children possible; which is to say that it makes male investment in children a winning evolutionary strategy rather than a losing one.

With a male now having a secured mate that he needs to support, a lot of his energy that used to be spent competing with other males for access to females can now be expended instead building capital to help secure his posterity.

Our entire civilization is built, ultimately, upon the cornerstone of marriage. Undermining that institution will eventually result in the loss of everything we hold dear. We will indeed return to life like it was on the grasslands of Africa: brutish, ugly and short....

Ash_Williams
17th January 2011, 09:26 AM
This is just using correlation as causation: "Single moms have kids that are more likely to be criminals, therefore single moms are the cause."

Of course, look at the type of couples that most frequently end up divorced with young children. Sometimes it's just the result of them marrying when they were too young to know themselves, but usually it's because at least one of the two has some serious issues. In my opinion the kids are screwed up for the same reason the marriage was a failure: because at least one of the parents was screwed up. In fact, both parents have proven themselves to have crappy decision-making skills.

He points out that most gang members, addicts, rapist, etc. come from female-headed families. That's a no brainer. Guess why the family is female-headed? Probably because the father is in jail or dead or kept away by a restraining order because he was a child abuser or wife-beater. The odds are really not in favor of the kid turning out good whether his family is female-headed or not.

This would be like if we threw fat men in jail for being overweight, then someone reached the conclusion that because so many fat kids had single moms, single moms were making them fat.

horseshoe3
17th January 2011, 09:34 AM
A woman can raise a boy, but it takes a man to raise a man.

RJB
17th January 2011, 09:35 AM
In the old days women were enslaved, abused by their husbands.

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201010/r657430_4677132.jpg

Now, thank God, women have earned great respect and are equal sexually and physically and liberated to be single mothers.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XHO8Wi6R6aI/SZnxRRea3dI/AAAAAAAAAQc/Az2Qun3IGFs/s400/image615940x.jpg

solid
17th January 2011, 09:59 AM
He points out that most gang members, addicts, rapist, etc. come from female-headed families. That's a no brainer. Guess why the family is female-headed? Probably because the father is in jail or dead or kept away by a restraining order because he was a child abuser or wife-beater. The odds are really not in favor of the kid turning out good whether his family is female-headed or not.


True, however it's important to point out that it's was these women's choices to procreate with those guys. So, if a woman sleeps with a thug and gets pregnant, it's both their faults. The guy for being a turd, and the woman for making the poor choice.

The bottom line however, is that in our system women don't have to be accountable for that poor decision.

Making babies without the father is actually a career for some, each baby brings in money, either by making a man an indentured servant, or through assistance through the state..via, all of us, taxpayers.

You don't have to even be the biological father, to get stuck paying child support. The system just sees men as a wallet, we are not individuals. We don't matter, discard us or make us pay.

I'm waiting for there to be a database of single guys. Oh, solid is single and free...there's a woman in Ohio that needs child support, just put solid's name on the birth certificate, done deal, everything's fine now. :oo-->

Low_five
17th January 2011, 10:53 AM
The only thing females should be allowed to head up is head up to the kitchen to make me a sandwhich.

Ash_Williams
17th January 2011, 11:14 AM
True, however it's important to point out that it's was these women's choices to procreate with those guys. So, if a woman sleeps with a thug and gets pregnant, it's both their faults. The guy for being a turd, and the woman for making the poor choice.


I wasn't blaming the guys really, just saying that the father is a basketcase it means the odds of the kid being a basketcase go way up. As you point out the mom isn't exactly the brightest either since she let him knock her up. So the kid has two screwups for parents, and the author is wondering why the kid is a screwup himself. Then he blames the female-headed household, as if the kid would have turned out great if raised by both his drug-addicted father and moron mother instead of just the moron mother.


Making babies without the father is actually a career for some, each baby brings in money, either by making a man an indentured servant, or through assistance through the state..via, all of us, taxpayers.

Right. The kid is born effed regardless of if his parents get a divorce or not. The unfortunate part is the taxpayers ensure that a lot more of these kids can get born than would otherwise be possible.

Twisted Titan
17th January 2011, 01:28 PM
Making babies without the father is actually a career for some, each baby brings in money, either by making a man an indentured servant, or through assistance through the state..via, all of us, taxpayers.


There it is right there

Take away the financial reward and the bunny hopping drops off a cliff.

But whatever Gubbermint wants it will subsidize and whatever it dislikes it will penalize.

So who is really to blame for what ales us as a socitey???

nunaem
17th January 2011, 01:58 PM
Marriage is largely a social construct. Once this is in place, "Fatherhood" in the sense used in the OP becomes possible: as fathers now know who their children are. This makes male investment in the support of their children possible; which is to say that it makes male investment in children a winning evolutionary strategy rather than a losing one.

With a male now having a secured mate that he needs to support, a lot of his energy that used to be spent competing with other males for access to females can now be expended instead building capital to help secure his posterity.

Our entire civilization is built, ultimately, upon the cornerstone of marriage. Undermining that institution will eventually result in the loss of everything we hold dear. We will indeed return to life like it was on the grasslands of Africa: brutish, ugly and short....


Great post, Agrippa. Are you the same Agrippa from the skadi forum?

solid
17th January 2011, 03:25 PM
With a male now having a secured mate that he needs to support, a lot of his energy that used to be spent competing with other males for access to females can now be expended instead building capital to help secure his posterity.

Our entire civilization is built, ultimately, upon the cornerstone of marriage. Undermining that institution will eventually result in the loss of everything we hold dear. We will indeed return to life like it was on the grasslands of Africa: brutish, ugly and short....


I think that's the path we are on, and it is indeed disturbing.

Take a certain example I've posted before, a neighbor, a gal, who's recent ex-boyfriend has threatened her life. This guy has been married 5 times, has 8 kids, and no job. Take this guy, yes he's a turd, but all he focuses on is women. He'll probably have 20 kids by the time he dies. Not only is his genes being passed on, but we are paying for it..all the hardworking folks.

Why should he even get a job at this point? Anything he makes will go to child support, so he gets to keep going..increasing the population, at our expense. The system, creates guys like that. The system rewards them, and encourages their behavior.

If this trend continues, eventually you'll have 1% of the men procreating with 99% of the women, and the genes of prison thugs get passed on. Yet, if you are a single hardworking guy, you get overlooked until a woman eventually wakes up...and at that point, she's got 4 kids from the thug guys and just needs some provider to pay the bill.

The bad guy's genes live on, the decent guys dies when he does.

It's bleak, and a rough world we are heading towards. It's discouraging as well. I really sometimes think it's a cross God asks us to carry sometimes, just having this knowledge. How life really works.

Twisted Titan
17th January 2011, 03:43 PM
With a male now having a secured mate that he needs to support, a lot of his energy that used to be spent competing with other males for access to females can now be expended instead building capital to help secure his posterity.

Our entire civilization is built, ultimately, upon the cornerstone of marriage. Undermining that institution will eventually result in the loss of everything we hold dear. We will indeed return to life like it was on the grasslands of Africa: brutish, ugly and short....


I think that's the path we are on, and it is indeed disturbing.

Take a certain example I've posted before, a neighbor, a gal, who's recent ex-boyfriend has threatened her life. This guy has been married 5 times, has 8 kids, and no job. Take this guy, yes he's a turd, but all he focuses on is women. He'll probably have 20 kids by the time he dies. Not only is his genes being passed on, but we are paying for it..all the hardworking folks.

Why should he even get a job at this point? Anything he makes will go to child support, so he gets to keep going..increasing the population, at our expense. The system, creates guys like that. The system rewards them, and encourages their behavior.

If this trend continues, eventually you'll have 1% of the men procreating with 99% of the women, and the genes of prison thugs get passed on. Yet, if you are a single hardworking guy, you get overlooked until a woman eventually wakes up...and at that point, she's got 4 kids from the thug guys and just needs some provider to pay the bill.

The bad guy's genes live on, the decent guys dies when he does.

It's bleak, and a rough world we are heading towards. It's discouraging as well. I really sometimes think it's a cross God asks us to carry sometimes, just having this knowledge. How life really works.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSROlfR7WTo

solid
17th January 2011, 03:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSROlfR7WTo


:ROFL: I shouldn't be laughing...but this is so true, however that video is one great laugh, for sure. Thanks TT!!!

ShortJohnSilver
17th January 2011, 04:02 PM
If this trend continues, eventually you'll have 1% of the men procreating with 99% of the women, and the genes of prison thugs get passed on. Yet, if you are a single hardworking guy, you get overlooked until a woman eventually wakes up...and at that point, she's got 4 kids from the thug guys and just needs some provider to pay the bill.

The bad guy's genes live on, the decent guys dies when he does.

It's bleak, and a rough world we are heading towards. It's discouraging as well. I really sometimes think it's a cross God asks us to carry sometimes, just having this knowledge. How life really works.


What will happen is that if things progress, the thug who is not around to protect his kids because he is a drifter/lone wolf, will have his genes forcibly removed as the price for the woman to have shelter and protection from the nice guy.

The nice guy will kill off the thug's kids and have kids with the woman that he knows are his.

nunaem
17th January 2011, 04:16 PM
That doesn't sound very 'nice'. ;D

solid
17th January 2011, 04:29 PM
That doesn't sound very 'nice'. ;D


Not nice at all. ;D Pretty savage, but does happen in nature however. Bears do this, come mating season a mother bear often has to fight off a male to protect her cubs. The male bear wants mate, and to kill another male bear's offspring.

It will be the thugs trying to kill kids to take ownership of the women. Then, guys like us will have to go around and take care of the thug problem. That's a single guy's job, if shtf gets that bad however. I sure hope it doesn't.

Gloomy topic to discuss, for sure.

ShortJohnSilver
17th January 2011, 06:40 PM
^ solid did a better job than me of explaining what might happen.

Agrippa
17th January 2011, 07:14 PM
What will happen is that if things progress, the thug who is not around to protect his kids because he is a drifter/lone wolf, will have his genes forcibly removed as the price for the woman to have shelter and protection from the nice guy.

The nice guy will kill off the thug's kids and have kids with the woman that he knows are his.


I'm not sure such a person would qualify as a "nice guy" in my book.

The age-old female strategy for dealing with this possibility was for the woman to sneak around behind the alpha-males back and mate with any up-and-coming male who looked like he might be a challenger. That way when the alpha-male was deposed the new alpha wouldn't know for sure that the woman's children weren't also his. With modern genetic testing this strategy might no longer be viable....

Ultimately a lot of those quaint customs of yesteryear, such as spitting on bastards and letting them starve in the gutter, had a point: they kept the delicate balance tipped in favor of marriage and male investment. Now that these safeguards have been abandoned the balance has swung back towards its ancient resting place: where nice guys finish last, and get booted out of the gene pool as a result.

"Pretty women are walking with gorillas down my street..."

nunaem
17th January 2011, 07:17 PM
The only thing females should be allowed to head up is head up to the kitchen to make me a sandwhich.


Oooooooh, and I'd be more than happy to whip you up a real tasty sammich just for you . MMMmmm hmmmmm yummyyyy.


Don't eat it, Low_Five!

Book
17th January 2011, 07:34 PM
Take a certain example I've posted before, a neighbor, a gal, who's recent ex-boyfriend has threatened her life. This guy has been married 5 times, has 8 kids, and no job. Take this guy, yes he's a turd, but all he focuses on is women. He'll probably have 20 kids by the time he dies. Not only is his genes being passed on, but we are paying for it..all the hardworking folks.

Why should he even get a job at this point? Anything he makes will go to child support, so he gets to keep going..increasing the population, at our expense. The system, creates guys like that. The system rewards them, and encourages their behavior.

If this trend continues, eventually you'll have 1% of the men procreating with 99% of the women, and the genes of prison thugs get passed on. Yet, if you are a single hardworking guy, you get overlooked until a woman eventually wakes up...and at that point, she's got 4 kids from the thug guys and just needs some provider to pay the bill.

The bad guy's genes live on, the decent guys dies when he does.

It's bleak, and a rough world we are heading towards. It's discouraging as well. I really sometimes think it's a cross God asks us to carry sometimes, just having this knowledge. How life really works.


Nah...don't blame this on God. Your post is otherwise perfect except for the summary ending.

It is Talmudist jew lawyers from the ACLU who have intentionally destroyed our America from within. Intentionally.

solid
17th January 2011, 08:03 PM
It is Talmudist jew lawyers from the ACLU who have intentionally destroyed our America from within. Intentionally.


I think a lot of it is more at an animalistic nature, though. The system just supports it, and feeds it. I also think men's ego comes into play as well. That's where I think having faith in God, is paramount.

Years ago, a gal dumped me for a guy who raped her and gave her an STD. Another gal, chose a guy who knocked her up and left, over me. It's hard not to see that from an evolutionary standpoint, how 'those' guys were somehow better, than me. A guy who rapes women, from a genetic standpoint...was a better man than I was.

That's where the frustration comes in. By no means do I feel like I need to pass on my genes to make meaning of life, however, it's hard to ignore those facts. That's what I meant about carrying a "cross"...the choice to be a civil person, with morales, and integrity...or cross the line and just be an animal and breed like crazy.

Every man, has urges, it's controlling them that make us men. Yet, getting breeded out of existance is damn scary thought.

Low_five
17th January 2011, 08:49 PM
Ill take a fried egg sandwich please.

solid
17th January 2011, 08:56 PM
Ill take a fried egg sandwich please.


You know, I'll take one too. That sounds great.

If it all goes to hell, at least we can enjoy a damn good sandwich.

zap
17th January 2011, 09:13 PM
Ill take a fried egg sandwich please.


You know, I'll take one too. That sounds great.

If it all goes to hell, at least we can enjoy a damn good sandwich.


Hell if I had had one as easy to please..... as make me a freakin sammich that would have been a lot less stressful in the kitchen, no gourmet cooking here. ;)

Book
17th January 2011, 09:33 PM
Yet, getting bred out of existence is damn scary thought.



http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3117/2682953583_57ba284eb7.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/insidemovies.moviefone.com/media/2010/05/motherandchild-1273175828.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6c/SaveTheLastDance.jpg

http://newsblaze.com/pix/2009/0318/pix/Spinning-Into-Butter-Movie-.jpg



Agreed but this is not in any way instinctive behavior by women. It is intentional jew-Hollywood programming. Jew-media brainwashing.

nunaem
17th January 2011, 10:03 PM
Negroes can have that horse-faced Jew.

ShortJohnSilver
17th January 2011, 11:05 PM
Yet, getting bred out of existence is damn scary thought.



http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3117/2682953583_57ba284eb7.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/insidemovies.moviefone.com/media/2010/05/motherandchild-1273175828.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6c/SaveTheLastDance.jpg

http://newsblaze.com/pix/2009/0318/pix/Spinning-Into-Butter-Movie-.jpg



Agreed but this is not in any way instinctive behavior by women. It is intentional jew-Hollywood programming. Jew-media brainwashing.


Guess Who's ... director Stanley Kramer, writer William Rose, not much biographical info, but Rose is a traditionally Jewish surname...

Mother And Child - written by Rodrigo Garcia, son of Gabriel Garcia Marquez - you can decide what you want about him

Save the Last Dance - written by Duane Adler, produced in association with MTV's film division, head of MTV is Jewish...

Playwright for "Spinning Into Butter" (it started as a play) - Rebecca Gilman, daughter of Jewish father and Southern Baptist mother...

Hmmm, not sure I understand what you are talking about Book! ;D

Hillbilly
17th January 2011, 11:15 PM
Women do not know how to raise Men. There may be a few single mothers that raise boys that don't grow up to be fags or serial killers but most end up less than they could have been, had they had a Father in their life. When I say father I don't mean some bull dyke either.

Book
18th January 2011, 05:27 AM
Years ago, a gal dumped me for a guy who raped her and gave her an STD. Another gal, chose a guy who knocked her up and left, over me. It's hard not to see that from an evolutionary standpoint, how 'those' guys were somehow better, than me. A guy who rapes women, from a genetic standpoint...was a better man than I was.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5WUUZbT2Sk

Women despise weak naive men. They destroy them to keep the gene pool strong.

:)

Awoke
18th January 2011, 06:26 AM
Book, you are 100% correct regarding the role of the conspiratorial jew on this topic.
This has been craftily engineered.


http://comps.fotosearch.com/comp/BDX/BDX375/interracial-couple-holding_~bxp68039.jpg

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/239977/239977,1239407285,1/stock-photo-interracial-couple-holding-hands-28291729.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yY4BXlYMYeA/TAf3LGRKG4I/AAAAAAAACrs/7HL3z8tDyrs/s1600/interracial_hands.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/136232148_6eb024d33b.jpg

http://elitistmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/interracial.jpg

http://www.drfphoto.com/image/full/790.jpg

http://www.corbisimages.com/images/67/AB989A9A-8BDC-4190-9834-A2B203CE4CD8/42-17570136.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RoVKle4RyYs/S4qYMbnzhUI/AAAAAAAAAx8/oOck6YVoC94/s400/interracial_couple.jpg

Ash_Williams
18th January 2011, 07:57 AM
Ultimately a lot of those quaint customs of yesteryear, such as spitting on bastards and letting them starve in the gutter, had a point: they kept the delicate balance tipped in favor of marriage and male investment. Now that these safeguards have been abandoned the balance has swung back towards its ancient resting place: where nice guys finish last, and get booted out of the gene pool as a result.

It depends which circles you run in.
This is why I see a divergence of the species in the future.
Some people really care what kind of chance they are giving their offspring and they won't compromise.
I don't care if some or even most women prefer a moronic thug, because I have no desire to mate with those women anyway. Some of us will pick out partners carefully and the rest can continue to breed their idiot race however they wish.
They can get as stupid and weak as they want to, it will just mean a greater advantage for my kids.

Solid you shouldn't be bothered by dumb women since you wouldn't want to raise their half-moron kids anyway. Move onto a different circle. Pick a woman like you pick a car - ie don't buy a piece of trash just because it's cheap and flashy.