Capitalists and communists are the same

[Nordmann]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stO2hZ1XhYY

[palani]

capitalism
1854, "condition of having capital;" from capital + -ism. Meaning "political/economic system which encourages capitalists" is recorded by 1877.

Communism and capitalism were co-created within a few years of each other. Can we say hegelian dialect? A controversy must be created in order to achieve the most profit for bankers.

[Shami-Amourae]

Notice he says the problem isn't Capitalism, but a SPECIFIC type of Capitalism, also know as Crony Casino Gulag Capitalism, or for short, Fascism. Pure Capitalism is very good for people, but so much wealth is created for everyone that it doesn't last long since someone or some group will decide they want to shut down others prosperity, and keep it only to themselves. The most prosperous nations eventually turn into the biggest tyrannies, considering all that money goes to a festering and ever growing government, that eventually will choke off the life of its host...

[Awoke]

capitalism
1854, "condition of having capital;" from capital + -ism. Meaning "political/economic system which encourages capitalists" is recorded by 1877.

Communism and capitalism were co-created within a few years of each other. Can we say hegelian dialect? A controversy must be created in order to achieve the most profit for bankers.


Yes, both created by the jew. Two experiments run on opposing sides of the planet, to determine which style of government suits their usurious purposes better.

[Hatha Sunahara]

Slavery by any other name is still slavery. Capitalism and Communism are euphemisms for two different flavors of slavery.

Hatha

[Apparition]

Huh? Private ownership & distribution and fully public ownership & distribution are synonymous?

So many statists always seem to conflate capitalism with anything to justify bashing it.

[Awoke]

Huh? Private ownership & distribution and fully public ownership & distribution are synonymous?

So many statists always seem to conflate capitalism with anything to justify bashing it.


Do you hold the deed to your house? Your land? Your vehicle? I mean the actual deed, not a photocopy or reciept.

I know in Canada, the (jew) Queen holds all those deeds. Technically, she owns it all. Capitalism is merely a disguise for tyranny. Same goes for "democracy".

[keehah]

'Call it what you want, as long as it does not affect our power over the masses.' -the Oligarchy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy

The oligarchy is a form of power structure in which power effectively rests with a small number of people. These people could be distinguished by royalty, wealth, family ties, corporate, or military control. The word oligarchy is from the Greek words "ὀλίγος" (olígos), "a few" and the verb "ἄρχω" (archo), "to rule, to govern, to command". Such states are often controlled by a few prominent families who pass their influence from one generation to the next.

Throughout history, some oligarchies have been tyrannical, relying on public servitude to exist, although others have been relatively benign.

Perhaps things would be clearer if we understood our 'choices' as benign Oligarchy or tyrannical Oligarchy.

[Bigjon]

Huh? Private ownership & distribution and fully public ownership & distribution are synonymous?

So many statists always seem to conflate capitalism with anything to justify bashing it.


Do you hold the deed to your house? Your land? Your vehicle? I mean the actual deed, not a photocopy or reciept.

I know in Canada, the (jew) Queen holds all those deeds. Technically, she owns it all. Capitalism is merely a disguise for tyranny. Same goes for "democracy".


What you say is very true and it illustrates that we have Jewish capitalism straight from the Talmud, with the Jews running the whole show, from day one.

That doesn't mean capitalism is bad, it only means we need to try the real thing.

[midnight rambler]

Pure Capitalism is very good for people

I'm thinking you've confused capitalism with free enterprise.

[Horn]

That doesn't mean capitalism is bad, it only means we need to try the real thing.


The big fish will always "team up" to squeeze the little ones.

Unless some laws could be written against "teaming up", but then that would be portrayed the same as tyranny.

[iOWNme]

Huh? Private ownership & distribution and fully public ownership & distribution are synonymous?

So many statists always seem to conflate capitalism with anything to justify bashing it.


Do you hold the deed to your house? Your land? Your vehicle? I mean the actual deed, not a photocopy or reciept.




You right, none of us hold those.......WHICH IS PROOF WE ARE NOT LIVING IN COMPETITIVE CAPITALISM.

A Competitive Capitalistic Republic is the only form of Government in the history of man that PROTECTS PRIVATE PROPERTY. What we have is a Monopolistic Capitalistic Oligarchy.

Competitive Capitalism can only survive in a nation where a Constitutional Republic is the form of Government. If you want to get rid of Competitive Capitalism YOU MUST FIRST KILL THE REPUBLIC.

ALL LAW is the protection of Private Property. Everything else is the 'Color of Law'.

We have not had 'Competitive Capitalism' since 1861. FACT.

Communism is Government Monopoly. Can anyone here name me just one industry or one facet of your own private life that the Government does not regulate, or has no authority to enter the field?

Thats what i thought.

COMMUNISM, Not capitalism, is the problem. Always has been.

If you dont like Competitive Capitalism, then chances are you are a non-producing leech on society. Anyone who produces goods or services will want to keep 100% of what they have produced using their labor (Private Property) and their energy and time = Prosperity.

[midnight rambler]

capitalism
1854, "condition of having capital;" from capital + -ism. Meaning "political/economic system which encourages capitalists" is recorded by 1877.

I submit that calling free enterprise 'competitive capitalism' is a perverted view of the matter.

[madfranks]

Pure Capitalism is very good for people

I'm thinking you've confused capitalism with free enterprise.


Like Apparition, when I hear the term "capitalism" I think of free enterprise. It's a semantics game. One person defines capitalism as a jewish created "Monopolistic Capitalistic Oligarchy" (thanks Sui Juris) and the other defines capitalism as free enterprise. The former derides the United States as a corrupt capitalistic society, and the latter insists that we have had no real capitalism in America for over 100 years. It all depends on what definition you use.

[Awoke]

Don't get tied up in the sematics between terminology.

The truth is, we are only a few steps away from out and out communism, continent-wide.

[midnight rambler]

Don't get tied up in the sematics between terminology.

The truth is, we are only a few steps away from out and out communism, continent-wide.


I thought you were awake.

Full bore Marxist communism has been thriving is the US for decades. I suggest you review the Ten Planks of the Communist Manifest* and reflect upon that in light of so called reality.

*What I find most fascinating is the inclusion of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto on Yale Law School's Avalon Project website as 'law' listed right alongside actual laws and treaties.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/19th.asp

The ultimate goal has always been the meshing of the two 'different' systems, so therefore to prevent getting sucked in one must be diligent about making the distinction(s).

[Apparition]

COMMUNISM, Not capitalism, is the problem. Always has been.

If you dont like Competitive Capitalism, then chances are you are a non-producing leech on society. Anyone who produces goods or services will want to keep 100% of what they have produced using their labor (Private Property) and their energy and time = Prosperity.

Amen!

Thank you. :)

[palani]

The truth is, we are only a few steps away from out and out communism, continent-wide.

You will find the wealthiest people on the planet advising others to share the shortage by practicing (communism/socialism/10 planks) while they themselves reap the bounty by practicing (private property/10 commandments).

[horseshoe3]

Huh? Private ownership & distribution and fully public ownership & distribution are synonymous?

So many statists always seem to conflate capitalism with anything to justify bashing it.


Do you hold the deed to your house? Your land? Your vehicle? I mean the actual deed, not a photocopy or reciept.




You right, none of us hold those.......WHICH IS PROOF WE ARE NOT LIVING IN COMPETITIVE CAPITALISM.

A Competitive Capitalistic Republic is the only form of Government in the history of man that PROTECTS PRIVATE PROPERTY. What we have is a Monopolistic Capitalistic Oligarchy.

Competitive Capitalism can only survive in a nation where a Constitutional Republic is the form of Government. If you want to get rid of Competitive Capitalism YOU MUST FIRST KILL THE REPUBLIC.

ALL LAW is the protection of Private Property. Everything else is the 'Color of Law'.

We have not had 'Competitive Capitalism' since 1861. FACT.

Communism is Government Monopoly. Can anyone here name me just one industry or one facet of your own private life that the Government does not regulate, or has no authority to enter the field?

Thats what i thought.

COMMUNISM, Not capitalism, is the problem. Always has been.

If you dont like Competitive Capitalism, then chances are you are a non-producing leech on society. Anyone who produces goods or services will want to keep 100% of what they have produced using their labor (Private Property) and their energy and time = Prosperity.


I like the jist of this post, but it seems to have an internal inconsistency.

If all law is the protection of private property, then that law must be enforced, and at a cost. Since the enforcer of the law is not creating wealth, must not his wages be drawn from those to do produce wealth in the form of taxes? Therefore, no productive person could ever keep 100% of his product. Could you elaborate on how these two terms of your argument might fit together in a just society?

PS, please don't say private courts. That's just another term for protection racket and will eventually devolve into the law of the jungle.

[iOWNme]

Huh? Private ownership & distribution and fully public ownership & distribution are synonymous?

So many statists always seem to conflate capitalism with anything to justify bashing it.


Do you hold the deed to your house? Your land? Your vehicle? I mean the actual deed, not a photocopy or reciept.




You right, none of us hold those.......WHICH IS PROOF WE ARE NOT LIVING IN COMPETITIVE CAPITALISM.

A Competitive Capitalistic Republic is the only form of Government in the history of man that PROTECTS PRIVATE PROPERTY. What we have is a Monopolistic Capitalistic Oligarchy.

Competitive Capitalism can only survive in a nation where a Constitutional Republic is the form of Government. If you want to get rid of Competitive Capitalism YOU MUST FIRST KILL THE REPUBLIC.

ALL LAW is the protection of Private Property. Everything else is the 'Color of Law'.

We have not had 'Competitive Capitalism' since 1861. FACT.

Communism is Government Monopoly. Can anyone here name me just one industry or one facet of your own private life that the Government does not regulate, or has no authority to enter the field?

Thats what i thought.

COMMUNISM, Not capitalism, is the problem. Always has been.

If you dont like Competitive Capitalism, then chances are you are a non-producing leech on society. Anyone who produces goods or services will want to keep 100% of what they have produced using their labor (Private Property) and their energy and time = Prosperity.


I like the jist of this post, but it seems to have an internal inconsistency.

If all law is the protection of private property, then that law must be enforced, and at a cost. Since the enforcer of the law is not creating wealth, must not his wages be drawn from those to do produce wealth in the form of taxes? Therefore, no productive person could ever keep 100% of his product. Could you elaborate on how these two terms of your argument might fit together in a just society?

PS, please don't say private courts. That's just another term for protection racket and will eventually devolve into the law of the jungle.



First of all, ALL SOCIETIES are Capitalistic. The only difference is: WHO OWNS/CONTROLS THE CAPITAL?

I couldnt watch the video when i first posted, and even Perkins agreed (1:04) that this is a specific kind of Capitalism. Just as i said. Because it does have Capitalistic parts, but so do all the other forms of Government. Its just not in their names. Its not called 'Communistic Capitalism' or 'Socialistic Capitalism'. But i can assure you, they all love Capital.

As if the Communist/Socialist/Fascist/Zionist are trying to get rid of capital. Nope. They are trying to get more of it.


Good questions.

Public Servants HAVE NO BUSINESS creating wealth with their service to the public. But Im sure we can agree that the days of a man getting out of bed to help another man out of the goodness of his heart, voluntarily, are over. Being a 'boy in blue' used to mean making PEANUTS to do the right thing. Imagine a man helping another, and not wanting something in return.....

Keeping 100% of what you earn is defined as not laboring for the collective.

There are Lawful taxes, laid out in the US CONStitution. ALL OF THESE TAXES REQUIRED CONSENT. These SMALL amount of taxes ensure the Government may only grow to a very small size. That being said, when Government is only doing its job (Protecting Private Property), it requires MUCH LESS of the manpower and money than what we see today. If the Government ONLY protected the Life, Liberty and Property of each and every person, they would literally be 90% smaller. I say 90% of statutes, codes, policies and ordinances are created for GENERATING REVENUE for the Socialist STATE.

[hoarder]

If you dont like Competitive Capitalism, then chances are you are a non-producing leech on society. We were not talking about Competitive Capitalism, we were talking about Capitalism......BIG DIFFERENCE!

[po boy]

The truth is, we are only a few steps away from out and out communism, continent-wide.

You will find the wealthiest people on the planet advising others to share the shortage by practicing (communism/socialism/10 planks) while they themselves reap the bounty by practicing (private property/10 commandments).


So how does one quit practicing the 10 planks.

I believe the jist is no ssn, ex-pat, no voting, no licenses no employment or income and I'm sure I'm missing more although it seems only a few have the answers that have worked.

The only one I have heard that I find believable was George Gordon but for a broke ass such as myself the tuition is unobtainable.

I pine for a life outside of commerce but being the dumbass I am I can't seem to find it on my own.

How does one get rid of a birth certificate or drivers license ect....

Have you been able to remove yourself from Babylon?

[Book]

Huh? Private ownership & distribution and fully public ownership & distribution are synonymous?

So many statists always seem to conflate capitalism with anything to justify bashing it.



Both use the same government goons to maintain it.

:D

[Horn]

Have you been able to remove yourself from Babylon?


There are different methods, most of them end up in you getting fingerprinted.

In the larger scale, each man made empire has been a shorter life span than the previous.

[Awoke]

Don't get tied up in the sematics between terminology.

The truth is, we are only a few steps away from out and out communism, continent-wide.


I thought you were awake.

Full bore Marxist communism has been thriving is the US for decades. I suggest you review the Ten Planks of the Communist Manifest* and reflect upon that in light of so called reality.

*What I find most fascinating is the inclusion of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto on Yale Law School's Avalon Project website as 'law' listed right alongside actual laws and treaties.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/19th.asp

The ultimate goal has always been the meshing of the two 'different' systems, so therefore to prevent getting sucked in one must be diligent about making the distinction(s).


I am familiar with the jew Marx and his 10 planks of communism.
We are not out-and-out communist, no matter how jaded you might be.

[palani]

So how does one quit practicing the 10 planks.
Short answer? Reasoning.


I believe the jist is no ssn, ex-pat, no voting, no licenses no employment or income and I'm sure I'm missing more although it seems only a few have the answers that have worked.
No SSN means no accepting benefits from a foreign potentate. Ex-pat is virtual. At any given time I might proclaim myself in a federal zone (this state), one of the several States, any of three territories or the Louisiana Purchase. All without moving an inch. As to licenses, if you are willing to agree to all terms and actually qualify (most don't without lying about the condition of their birth), then why not? No employment? Employ yourself. No income? I doubt if you could find anyone to pay you in lawful money anyway so what are you losing?


The only one I have heard that I find believable was George Gordon but for a broke ass such as myself the tuition is unobtainable. A lot of his material is free in audio downloads. I don't know that his answers are the only remedies available.


I pine for a life outside of commerce but being the dumbass I am I can't seem to find it on my own. Commerce is over-rated if you find that you are the commodity being traded.


How does one get rid of a birth certificate or drivers license ect.... Documents are lost all the time although if this is what you want why not return them to their owner? Curiously enough this act makes the one who receives the documents the trust fiduciary instead of you filling this office by possession.


Have you been able to remove yourself from Babylon?
Me? I was never involved in commerce. You might be mistaking me for a state created fiduciary.