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18th January 2011, 05:46 PM
DNA tests reveal 'Hitler was descended from the Jews and Africans he hated'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1305414/Hitler-descended-Jews-Africans-DNA-tests-reveal.html
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Adolf Hitler is likely to have been descended from both Jews and Africans, according to DNA tests.
Samples taken from relatives of the Nazi leader show that he is biologically linked to the 'sub-human' races he sought to exterminate.
Journalist Jean-Paul Mulders and historian Marc Vermeeren used DNA to track down 39 of the Fuhrer's relatives earlier this year.
They included an Austrian farmer revealed only as a cousin called Norbert H.
A Belgian news magazine has reported that samples of saliva taken from these people strongly suggest Hitler had antecedents he certainly would not have cared for.
A chromosome called Haplopgroup E1b1b (Y-DNA) in their samples is rare in Germany and indeed Western Europe.
'It is most commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco, in Algeria, Libya and Tunisia as well as among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews,' Mr Vermeeren said.
'One can from this postulate that Hitler was related to people whom he despised,' adds Mr Mulders in the magazine, Knack.
Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of Ashkenazi and 8.6 per cent to 30 per cent of Sephardic Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population.
'This is a surprising result,' said Ronny Decorte, a genetic specialist who agreed that Hitler probably did have some roots in North Africa.
Roots: Hitler's DNA was found to contain Haplogroup E1b1b, commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco
Hitler's DNA was found to contain Haplogroup E1b1b
Roots: Hitler's DNA was found to contain Haplogroup E1b1b, commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco (left) - and also accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of the Y-chromosomes of Sephardic Jews (right) who hail from Morocco, Spain and Portugal)
'It is difficult to predict, what happens with this information, both to opponents and supporters of Hitler,' he added.
The magazine says the DNA was tested under stringent laboratory conditions to obtain the results.
It is not the first time that historians have suggested Hitler had Jewish ancestry.
His father, Alois, is thought to have been the illegitimate offspring of a maid called Maria Schickelgruber and a 19-year-old Jewish man called Frankenberger.
This would have made the man who inspired the Holocaust one-quarter Jewish.
Hidden secrets: The Waldviertel region where a Hitler's cousin, farmer Norbert H, was found
Hidden secrets: The Waldviertel region in Austria where Hitler's cousin, farmer Norbert H, was found
The Auschwitz-Birkenau camp where Hitler's Jewish extermination programme was carried out
The Auschwitz-Birkenau camp in Poland where Hitler's extermination programme of the Jews was carried out
The original DNA on the serviette in the US was from Alexander Stuart-Houston (now aged 61), a grand-nephew of Hitler
DNA on a serviette was taken from Alexander Stuart-Houston (now aged 61), a grand-nephew of Hitler
Reports have suggested that Hitler's nephew, Patrick, tried to blackmail his uncle over the issue of Alois Hitler's parentage. Hitler asked his lawyer, Hans Frank, to investigate the claims and he announced just before the outbreak of the Second World War that they were 'without any foundation'.
'Hitler would not have been pleased about this,' added Mr Decorte, of the Catholic University of Leuven.
'The affair is fascinating if one compares it with the conception of the world of the Nazis, in which race and blood was central.
'Hitler's concern over his descent was not unjustified. He was apparently not "pure" or "Ayran".'
DNA was also taken from American Alexander Stuart-Houston, 61, a grand-nephew of Hitler.
He was trailed for seven days before he dropped a used serviette which Mulders said led him to the cousin in Austria - and the link with Hitler's sworn enemies.
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I am for truth, I am not pro Hitler, what would be interesting is to see
how people handle this first post from me without the second one,
unfortunately I have seen people attack the core of European history
and society and very few respond, people would wonder why I posted
this, Hitler's DNA may be real as reported, but the article is pure propaganda,
people should recognize the methods, not say, " oh it is obvious it is propaganda "
and get upset at the media, it is actually easy to destroy their arguments but
that takes some time, some knowledge, a lot of it is new to me and I was
actually made more aware of these methods and counter arguments because of the
forums and 2 particular posters, I destroyed them, by myself, the majority was cordial
until the end where he basically called me and others " niggers " , after I destroyed aeondaze
the other one got more blatant and upset, aeondaze actually supported my
posts, too stupid to know it, aeondaze is not a member here as far as I know,
but his partner is, this thread is dedicated to Antonio who is already
starting down this path again, a rerun, attacking and insulting European leaders,
and Europeans. Doing the same kind of thing the paper here is doing to Hitler.
I am not pro Hitler but this account is dishonest blatant propaganda, and an
attack on all Europeans , there is a motive here, more than one, NWO propaganda.
Hitler may have had some relatives in past that were Jews but those Jews most likely have European genes. Not the other way around. What is a " jewish gene " anyways ? I don't think there is such a thing, one thing. Many old ME and Hebrews had European genes cause they were same stock as Europeans, Turko Mongol Khazars have strong European genes for most part, because many once were, not the other way around.
Just some points to consider.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1305414/Hitler-descended-Jews-Africans-DNA-tests-reveal.html
http://i55.tinypic.com/os4pd5.jpg
Adolf Hitler is likely to have been descended from both Jews and Africans, according to DNA tests.
Samples taken from relatives of the Nazi leader show that he is biologically linked to the 'sub-human' races he sought to exterminate.
Journalist Jean-Paul Mulders and historian Marc Vermeeren used DNA to track down 39 of the Fuhrer's relatives earlier this year.
They included an Austrian farmer revealed only as a cousin called Norbert H.
A Belgian news magazine has reported that samples of saliva taken from these people strongly suggest Hitler had antecedents he certainly would not have cared for.
A chromosome called Haplopgroup E1b1b (Y-DNA) in their samples is rare in Germany and indeed Western Europe.
'It is most commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco, in Algeria, Libya and Tunisia as well as among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews,' Mr Vermeeren said.
'One can from this postulate that Hitler was related to people whom he despised,' adds Mr Mulders in the magazine, Knack.
Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of Ashkenazi and 8.6 per cent to 30 per cent of Sephardic Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population.
'This is a surprising result,' said Ronny Decorte, a genetic specialist who agreed that Hitler probably did have some roots in North Africa.
Roots: Hitler's DNA was found to contain Haplogroup E1b1b, commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco
Hitler's DNA was found to contain Haplogroup E1b1b
Roots: Hitler's DNA was found to contain Haplogroup E1b1b, commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco (left) - and also accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of the Y-chromosomes of Sephardic Jews (right) who hail from Morocco, Spain and Portugal)
'It is difficult to predict, what happens with this information, both to opponents and supporters of Hitler,' he added.
The magazine says the DNA was tested under stringent laboratory conditions to obtain the results.
It is not the first time that historians have suggested Hitler had Jewish ancestry.
His father, Alois, is thought to have been the illegitimate offspring of a maid called Maria Schickelgruber and a 19-year-old Jewish man called Frankenberger.
This would have made the man who inspired the Holocaust one-quarter Jewish.
Hidden secrets: The Waldviertel region where a Hitler's cousin, farmer Norbert H, was found
Hidden secrets: The Waldviertel region in Austria where Hitler's cousin, farmer Norbert H, was found
The Auschwitz-Birkenau camp where Hitler's Jewish extermination programme was carried out
The Auschwitz-Birkenau camp in Poland where Hitler's extermination programme of the Jews was carried out
The original DNA on the serviette in the US was from Alexander Stuart-Houston (now aged 61), a grand-nephew of Hitler
DNA on a serviette was taken from Alexander Stuart-Houston (now aged 61), a grand-nephew of Hitler
Reports have suggested that Hitler's nephew, Patrick, tried to blackmail his uncle over the issue of Alois Hitler's parentage. Hitler asked his lawyer, Hans Frank, to investigate the claims and he announced just before the outbreak of the Second World War that they were 'without any foundation'.
'Hitler would not have been pleased about this,' added Mr Decorte, of the Catholic University of Leuven.
'The affair is fascinating if one compares it with the conception of the world of the Nazis, in which race and blood was central.
'Hitler's concern over his descent was not unjustified. He was apparently not "pure" or "Ayran".'
DNA was also taken from American Alexander Stuart-Houston, 61, a grand-nephew of Hitler.
He was trailed for seven days before he dropped a used serviette which Mulders said led him to the cousin in Austria - and the link with Hitler's sworn enemies.
------------------------------------------------------------
I am for truth, I am not pro Hitler, what would be interesting is to see
how people handle this first post from me without the second one,
unfortunately I have seen people attack the core of European history
and society and very few respond, people would wonder why I posted
this, Hitler's DNA may be real as reported, but the article is pure propaganda,
people should recognize the methods, not say, " oh it is obvious it is propaganda "
and get upset at the media, it is actually easy to destroy their arguments but
that takes some time, some knowledge, a lot of it is new to me and I was
actually made more aware of these methods and counter arguments because of the
forums and 2 particular posters, I destroyed them, by myself, the majority was cordial
until the end where he basically called me and others " niggers " , after I destroyed aeondaze
the other one got more blatant and upset, aeondaze actually supported my
posts, too stupid to know it, aeondaze is not a member here as far as I know,
but his partner is, this thread is dedicated to Antonio who is already
starting down this path again, a rerun, attacking and insulting European leaders,
and Europeans. Doing the same kind of thing the paper here is doing to Hitler.
I am not pro Hitler but this account is dishonest blatant propaganda, and an
attack on all Europeans , there is a motive here, more than one, NWO propaganda.
Hitler may have had some relatives in past that were Jews but those Jews most likely have European genes. Not the other way around. What is a " jewish gene " anyways ? I don't think there is such a thing, one thing. Many old ME and Hebrews had European genes cause they were same stock as Europeans, Turko Mongol Khazars have strong European genes for most part, because many once were, not the other way around.
Just some points to consider.