Former FBI Chief Ted Gunderson Says Chemtrail Death Dumps Must Be Stopped

[Serpo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR6KVYJ73AU&feature=player_embedded#!

[bellevuebully]

What is this.....a joke?

Ted Gunderson, former fbi chief has to resort to youtube and the internet to expose chemtrail theory?????? What is wrong with this picture? Not saying c/t aren't real.....but this presentation makes no sense whatsoever.

[PatColo]

Thanks Serpo. I thought TG was also a 911 Truther but couldn't find evidence of it. I'm sure he is, as he's an OKC Truther (http://911blogger.com/taxonomy/term/10175).

His ziopedia entry is fairly sparse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Gunderson), but he seems bonafide.

[General of Darkness]

Bump, this is good stuff.

[Tumbleweed]

I think Ted is one of the good guys. This is one of his interviews.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4217457994226676654#

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Former Chief of the FBI says chemtrails are real...


It's all starting to come down.

[JDRock]

What is this.....a joke?

Ted Gunderson, former fbi chief has to resort to youtube and the internet to expose chemtrail theory?????? What is wrong with this picture? Not saying c/t aren't real.....but this presentation makes no sense whatsoever.


the sheenies spraying us also own the media outlets....this presentation makes perfect sense.

[woodman]

I think Ted is one of the good guys. This is one of his interviews.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4217457994226676654#


I heard Chip Tatum, here interviewed by Gunderson, was tortured and murdered shortly after this.

[bellevuebully]

the sheenies spraying us also own the media outlets....this presentation makes perfect sense.


No offense JD, but that thinking is a little shallow. Imo, this kind of stuff is slight-of-hand. Ted Gunderson knows countless people in as many facets of government, media, society, international business secret societies and high level international intelligence. Don't you think he may have access to other sources and alternatives for getting the word out besides the internet....maybe like public manifesto's, public rallies/demonstrations, privately funded information campaigns, covert information leaks? But no...he opts for Youtube?

So...... the guy is an ex high level gov employee.....now he is Mr. Trustworthy? So now everyone here accepts the propaganda "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help."???


I think even here, people are getting duped big time and frankly it surprises me. It strikes me when something like this comes out and everyone falls all over themselves like the 'truth' is getting out......I mean, look at the source.....how long did the guy work in covert op's deep within the admin? Now he has a change of heart and decides after 40 years of towing the line witnessing corruption, murder and treason that all of this is just 'wrong' so he boots up a youtube vid to which every conspiracy afficiando in the world has access and says 'we gotta stop these things'?

I'm not claiming to know a lot about Gunderson, but like the old saying goes....you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

I think swallowing this hook, line and sinker just goes to show how much power tptb wield at directing public opinion.

Like I said, I am no expert on Gunderson, but don't ever forget when you see stuff come out from these guys that they also have a pretty dark past. And don't ever forget the long-exercised pattern of a stealth take over of society. This screams 1 or 2.

1 demoralize
2 destablize
3 incite insurgency
4 stick it to em.

I don't buy it for a second. Not the chemtrail issue, just the rhetoric coming from an ex man-in-black. Slight of hand, knowhatm'sayn? JMO


Maybe in 10 years Obama can come out and tell us how it's a conspiracythat all the modified food is really a mass genocide agenda and we can all fall down over him too. If we still have the internet.

Gotta go.....someone's breakin' down my door. 8)

[hoarder]

Ted Gunderson knows countless people in as many facets of government, media, society, international business secret societies and high level international intelligence. Don't you think he may have access to other sources and alternatives for getting the word out besides the internet....maybe like public manifesto's, public rallies/demonstrations, privately funded information campaigns, covert information leaks?
Government is top-down in design. Agencies don't interact that much, and when they do it's purely procedural. Besides, heads of agencies get replaced often for the purpose of making the left right paradigm look real. By calling any people within government that he knew, Gunderson would accomplish little because government employees are only going to do what they think their supervisors will reward them for, not the opposite. Do you think goobermint employees are rewarded for exposing goobermint corruption??

It makes much more sense to me to go on youtube and reach thousands instead of calling a handful of goobermint employees and expecting something to become of it.

[bellevuebully]

Ted Gunderson knows countless people in as many facets of government, media, society, international business secret societies and high level international intelligence. Don't you think he may have access to other sources and alternatives for getting the word out besides the internet....maybe like public manifesto's, public rallies/demonstrations, privately funded information campaigns, covert information leaks?
Government is top-down in design. Agencies don't interact that much, and when they do it's purely procedural. Besides, heads of agencies get replaced often for the purpose of making the left right paradigm look real. By calling any people within government that he knew, Gunderson would accomplish little because government employees are only going to do what they think their supervisors will reward them for, not the opposite. Do you think goobermint employees are rewarded for exposing goobermint corruption??

It makes much more sense to me to go on youtube and reach thousands instead of calling a handful of goobermint employees and expecting something to become of it.


I can appreciate your pov but you are still putting his reach in a mighty small box, imo. Out of curiousity, what makes you trust an ex high level gov agent.......optimism? This guy wasn't your community hardware store owner. He has resources, and more importantly....something your response obviously did not take into account.....he knows how to use them, and to use them very effectively.

[hoarder]

Out of curiousity, what makes you trust an ex high level gov agent.......optimism? I tend not to trust anyone, however I do rank trustworthiness in a logical manner.

Which of the following people are most trustworthy?

1) A government employee.
2) An ex government employee.

#1 has the most to lose by telling the truth and the most motive to be in denial.
I would rank #2 higher than #1.

[Serpo]

[quote=bellevuebully ]
Out of curiousity, what makes you trust an ex high level gov agent.......optimism? [/

Which of the following people are most trustworthy?

1) A government employee.
2) An ex government employee.

#1 has the most to lose by telling the truth and the most motive to be in denial.
I would rank #2 higher than #1.


Not unless #2 became #1 because he was still being paid.....

[bellevuebully]

Not unless #2 became #1 because he was still being paid.....



No doubt.

I wonder if Bill Clinton in a real good guy now. Maybe I'll do a youtube search. :oo-->
































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[hoarder]

Not unless #2 became #1 because he was still being paid..... True, but so far I see no motive for the the goobermint to put out this youtube.
































































































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[bellevuebully]

Not unless #2 became #1 because he was still being paid..... True, but so far I see no motive for the the goobermint to put out this youtube.

[/quote]

Same reason they use every other disinfo agent. Stir dissent. Monitor reaction. Make lists. Go figure.

Did you see Gunderson offering any solutions? No. All he does is foments fear, hysteria and resentment. Do you really think Gunderson is that daft that he would present a problem of this scope but not a solution? He's not a shoeshine boy....this is the former chief of the fbi.

Seriously, think about it. I think your head is deep in the sand on this one.

The scariest thing about this video is the reaction I have seen here. Sorry to say, but it's true. Read between the lines.

I'd like to hear some thoughts from others who responded on this thread thinking this was a earthshattering revelation......crickets so far. :-\

[hoarder]

Same reason they use every other disinfo agent. Stir dissent. Monitor reaction. Make lists.


1) Our rulers have no motive to educate their subjects that the government is corrupt. They want us to revere government.
2) Exposing corruption is not automatically followed by solutions.
3) People who offer "solutions" are the category of people we most need to suspect as being agent provocateurs.

In reality, no solution will work until such time as enough people are disgusted with government corruption that government fears them. Government does not want to increase that number.

[Antonio]

Not unless #2 became #1 because he was still being paid..... True, but so far I see no motive for the the goobermint to put out this youtube.



Same reason they use every other disinfo agent. Stir dissent. Monitor reaction. Make lists. Go figure.

Did you see Gunderson offering any solutions? No. All he does is foments fear, hysteria and resentment. Do you really think Gunderson is that daft that he would present a problem of this scope but not a solution? He's not a shoeshine boy....this is the former chief of the fbi.

Seriously, think about it. I think your head is deep in the sand on this one.

The scariest thing about this video is the reaction I have seen here. Sorry to say, but it's true. Read between the lines.

I'd like to hear some thoughts from others who responded on this thread thinking this was a earthshattering revelation......crickets so far. :-\



[/quote]

Who da fuk knows,maybe good ole Ted is posting here as Book. Stir dissent. Monitor reaction. Make lists. Go figure.

[bellevuebully]

Who da fuk knows,maybe good ole Ted is posting here as Book. Stir dissent. Monitor reaction. Make lists. Go figure.




Zero value. Thanks for the input.................that was sarcasm. ;)

[Book]

Did you see Gunderson offering any solutions? No. All he does is foments fear, hysteria and resentment.



I agree with BB. Another example is this joke (http://www.trutv.com/video/conspiracy-theory/pentagon-conspiracy.html).

:)

[bellevuebully]

Did you see Gunderson offering any solutions? No. All he does is foments fear, hysteria and resentment.



I agree with BB. Another example is this joke (http://www.trutv.com/video/conspiracy-theory/pentagon-conspiracy.html).

:)



Are you saying Jesse's not.......on our side? :'(

It really goes to show the level of discernment in North American culture today.

[Book]

Did you see Gunderson offering any solutions? No. All he does is foments fear, hysteria and resentment.



I agree with BB. Another example is this joke (http://www.trutv.com/video/conspiracy-theory/pentagon-conspiracy.html).

:)


Are you saying Jesse's not.......on our side? :'(



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhLhK0HeU6Q

A 44-Minute Joke on cable teevee that contains maybe 4 minutes of actual info.

:D