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Ponce
19th January 2011, 10:06 AM
Before they enter my home they will have to carry me away..........dead.
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Feds come knocking for home inspections.

Some citizens outraged, calling probe 'illegal search and invasion' of proper.
Posted: January 16, 2011
6:06 pm Eastern


By Bob Unruh
© 2011 WorldNetDaily


A sanitation district in Pennsylvania has notified homeowners that its representatives will be making personal visits to every structure served by its network of drainpipes because that's what the federal Environmental Protection Agency is demanding.

The letter informs homeowners the inspections will probably take only about 15 minutes, but that all properties "will be considered a source of clear water discharges until an inspection can be conducted."

The effort, according to officials at the Coplay Whitehall Sewer Authority, is to prevent water from sources such as sump pumps or downspouts from being channeled into a water treatment process.

But homeowners are concerned about the mandatory government inspections of their properties.

"I do consider this the equivalent of illegal search and invasion of my home without just cause and [it] establishes a situation where I am guilty and must prove innocence," one homeowner, who asked that his identity be withheld, told WND.

What else is the government trying to find out? Details in "Spychips"

"This inspection is to determine if I am 'discharging' 'clean water' into the sewer system. At no point in the letter does it say exactly what will be looked at, (I guess leaky faucets will be a crime) what else may be being evaluated while my property is being inspected, what is on the 'check list' or report that is being done, and really exactly who is doing the inspection," he said.

Officials with the sanitation district confirmed that they dispatched the letter and said the inspections are being demanded by the EPA. However, officials at the regional EPA office and those at its Washington headquarters declined to respond to WND questions about the process or its goals



The letter to homeowners said the district was served "with a United States Environmental Protection Agency Administration Order which requires elimination of all Sanitary Sewer Overflows (SSOs) and the elimination of all clear water from entering each respective municipality's sanitary sewer system."

"The Administrative Order carries severe penalties and fines if compliance with the Order is not achieved," the letter said.

"In order to meet the requirements of the EPA Order, the CWSA finds it necessary to conduct door to door inspections of all properties connected to the CWSA system to ensure your property is not contributing clear water discharges to the sanitary sewer systems."

The letter warned that "failure by the CWSA to comply with the EPA order will result in fines and penalties levied against the CWSA which in turn will be passed on to CWSA customers through increased sanitary sewer rates."

The homeowner told WND, "I find myself becoming more and more angry as I process the ramifications of this whole issue. This may be just to look for 'clean water discharge' (what a joke – I wonder if they will look to see if I'm in the shower too long and not standing under the flow of water enough and I better not run the water for a glass of cold water), but this is, like the sexual assaults of the TSA, the beginning of accepting illegal and unwarranted searches.

"It is happening here, but from the letter I get the feeling that it is being done elsewhere with the goal of having the EPA visit every single home/apartment in America to collect who knows what information … and if this is for clean water, what will be next?" the homeowner said.

The sanitation district's own website confirms there apparently are other ways to obtain some information, since it describes how it "utilizes a 'state of the art' television inspection system, reviewing 30 miles of line/year to assure maintenance of an exemplary 'tight' system."

The district website confirms that there are 13,500 properties served by the "approximately 120 miles of line," meaning that the entire system could be reviewed once every four years with the separate system it uses.

It advises that "rainwater, downspouts, basement drains and sump pump discharges" should not be connected or piped into the sanitary district's drains.



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mamboni
19th January 2011, 10:19 AM
FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!!!!!

mick silver
19th January 2011, 10:21 AM
dam are we all kids . just one more way to see what you have in your house .. he got a food supply , oh he got a gun safe ... it look lke our homes and not are castles anymore . i dont need someone to hold my hand to walk down the street

SLV^GLD
19th January 2011, 10:37 AM
You pay property taxes so you can't really consider YOUR property.
Those taxes allegedly pay to treat your effluvium.
The same taxes allegedly protect waterways in the district.
If the publicly provided and subsidized water separation and treatment system malfunctions on that parcel of land you like to think of as property then the people your taxes pay for will come onto THEIR PUBLIC PROPERTY to make sure it's working right or to fine you more if it is not. Even if the above reasons are only a cover you are in an agreement with the public "servants" that allows them to behave this way and you to have practically zero recourse.

The people bitching and moaning are not actually crying about the rights they don't really have, they are crying because their cherished delusions are being shattered.

mamboni
19th January 2011, 10:52 AM
You pay property taxes so you can't really consider YOUR property.
Those taxes allegedly pay to treat your effluvium.
The same taxes allegedly protect waterways in the district.
If the publicly provided and subsidized water separation and treatment system malfunctions on that parcel of land you like to think of as property then the people your taxes pay for will come onto THEIR PUBLIC PROPERTY to make sure it's working right or to fine you more if it is not. Even if the above reasons are only a cover you are in an agreement with the public "servants" that allows them to behave this way and you to have practically zero recourse.

The people bitching and moaning are not actually crying about the rights they don't really have, they are crying because their cherished delusions are being shattered.



In the end, we are all morons (for allowing ourselves to be duped into participating in this Ponzi scheme).

G2Rad
19th January 2011, 11:11 AM
Because of man coming out of the Environment through random acts of evolution, the Environment's rights not to be polluted are higher than the illusion of man's rights.

Moreover what rights a talking piece of dirt may have, it will be dead in a moment anyway, so it does matter what it wants.

On what grounds a bag of molecules, self-organized by accident into a talking "something" can demand rights? What is the basis of such a demand?

The "rights" we enjoy here are a direct consequence of Christian faith of our predecessors, that Americans love to hate and rediqule.

ximmy
19th January 2011, 11:22 AM
The day is coming when I will sit under my own vine, eat fruit from my own tree, drink water from my own well... and discard in my own septic tank... ;)

mick silver
19th January 2011, 11:30 AM
ximmy i have done made that move ... i just hope you make it there

Cobalt
19th January 2011, 11:36 AM
They have been doing non invasive inspections here for a couple decades, the city sewer dept drives around and drops smoke bombs down a sewer manhole and then just look around and see who has smoke coming from their gutters.
It won't disclose who has a basement sump pump hooked to the sewer system because most of those systems have a P trap installed but it works for those that have illegally hooked up downspouts into the sewer system.

Twisted Titan
19th January 2011, 11:51 AM
I am still not understand what the problem is.

How can you "illegally" install a sump pump???

What is a down spout???

I am not in a flood prone area so I dont have a clue as to what the crime is.

T

SLV^GLD
19th January 2011, 11:54 AM
Why the hell would you put your storm outlets into the sewer?!?
I pay some flat stormwater tax but I pay a metered sewer fee. I would be kicking my own ass to pipe my stormwater to the sewer. It's worth noting (?) that my gutter downspouts tie into an underground clay pipe drainage system that carries to the nearest stormwater drain on the street.

Also, my basement sump just ejects into the yard (probably a bit counterproductive but WTH.

Cobalt
19th January 2011, 11:57 AM
I am still not understand what the problem is.

How can you "illegally" install a sump pump???

What is a down spout???

I am not in a flood prone area so I dont have a clue as to what the crime is.

T


A sump pump is used to pump water from the basement that seeps in, a down spout is where the water from roof gutters goes and neither of those are considered sewer water so you aren't supposed to drain those into the sewer system and overload the system with water that doesn't need treatment

SLV^GLD
19th January 2011, 11:58 AM
[i][b]I am still not understand what the problem is. I'm not sure either


How can you "illegally" install a sump pump???Apparently by routing it's output to the sewer instead of the storm drain. This DOES place undue strain on the water treatment facilities. Where I live every drop you send to the sewer is metered and billed so caveat emptor.


What is a down spout??? The vertical portion of your guttering that carries the water down to the ground or down underground to a drainage system.


I am not in a flood prone area so I dont have a clue as to what the crime is.There's a lot of ways to interpret that but I'll just say that if you lay your head down under a roof in a municipality you are guilty of many things and are most likely clueless to 80% of them.

Cobalt
19th January 2011, 12:03 PM
Why the hell would you put your storm outlets into the sewer?!?
I pay some flat stormwater tax but I pay a metered sewer fee. I would be kicking my own ass to pipe my stormwater to the sewer. It's worth noting (?) that my gutter downspouts tie into an underground clay pipe drainage system that carries to the nearest stormwater drain on the street.

Also, my basement sump just ejects into the yard (probably a bit counterproductive but WTH.



Around here we don't have metered sewers, we have meters on water so they charge a sewer assessment based on how much water you use.

The storm water is supposed to go into the storm system which doesn't require any treatment but people found it is easier to dump it into an existing house sewer pipe then to channel or pipe it too the storm drainage

ShortJohnSilver
19th January 2011, 12:35 PM
I am still not understand what the problem is.

How can you "illegally" install a sump pump???

What is a down spout???

I am not in a flood prone area so I dont have a clue as to what the crime is.

T


A sump pump is used to pump water from the basement that seeps in, a down spout is where the water from roof gutters goes and neither of those are considered sewer water so you aren't supposed to drain those into the sewer system and overload the system with water that doesn't need treatment


Course the first thing they do when the sewer water reaches the plant, is ... add more water to it. However the rain from gutters should go into the local area to build up the aquifer, which is probably the main reason they are complaining - far cheaper to let the ground clean the water and pump clean water out of the aquifer than have to treat more water with pumps etc.