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Hillbilly
25th January 2011, 02:11 PM
Everyone is so worried about China but they are nothing to worry about. Unlike us they have to spend their own hard earned money to build their military. We just print more FRN's and what do they do? They buy are worthless debt. They also have a massive overpopulation of unskilled people. Now that we are not buying as much of their worthless crap what are those people going to do? The Chinese government is more afraid of their own people than anything else. They also have a growing Muslim Population just to keep things interesting!

There are entire cities in China that no one is living in. Their real estate bubble is about to pop and it is going to make our look like a little Blip compared to theirs. China has no great military weapons designers all they have they stole from us. There is no way they could have stolen all our best stuff so they are going to come up way short in a fight. They literally are bringing a knife to a gun fight. We spent the soviet union into oblivion and we will do the same to the Chinese and if that does not work out like we planned. We will back and supply Japan so they can go Hate-fuck Nanking a couple more times. No one hates the "Sick man of Asia" more than the Japs.

These are just few reasons why China is just all hot air.

ShortJohnSilver
25th January 2011, 02:23 PM
Whistling past the graveyard are ya? Sure the Chinese have a lot of issues, but then again, they also have a lot of factories.

Book
25th January 2011, 02:24 PM
China has a worse problem (http://www.chabadchina.org/) than you mentioned.

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Bullion_Bob
25th January 2011, 03:26 PM
I was reading yesterday that they just surpassed the US, and Germany in economic productivity (I believe). GM in China just broke an all time 102 year record of car sales...all to the Chinese.

They are not interested in buying debt, and continually leveraging out at every available opportunity.

Money will be spent keeping China down. They are a threat economically, and eventually will be militarily if their buttons are pressed.

That said, they will probably want to be left alone, but will be poked, and prodded ongoing until they become agitated into conflict but it will be played out as their fault.

MAGNES
25th January 2011, 03:58 PM
China is a great threat to The West because the Clinton Jews made sure
China had advanced rocket and nuclear technology, Israel made sure of
that too, and they want to reward Pollard for mission accomplished by
releasing him, after all , greater traitors running US companies are free.

MAGNES
25th January 2011, 04:06 PM
Loral was one of the key companies here. That scandal.

Clinton Defends China Satellite Waiver
White House delivers papers to Congress in support of the deal

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/05/22/china.money/

WASHINGTON (May 22) -- President Bill Clinton on Friday defended a controversial satellite deal with China, even as White House officials delivered documents to the House International Relations Committee about the arrangement.

Loral's chairman Bernard Schwartz denies Loral did anything illegal.

Who is building China up and why ? This info is being washed from the web too.

I remember Loral and CEO, but there are others, of course it was legal, it was " US " policy.

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/05/src/29schwartz.gif

CEO MATERIAL . :ROFL:

http://www.charlierose.com/images_toplevel/people/6/695/guest_6953_340x340.jpg

http://www.house.gov/coxreport/body/schwar.jpg

osoab
25th January 2011, 04:11 PM
China is not buying our debt currently. That would be the UK that is soaking up the bonds when it comes to nations buying our debt.

Since I have yet to find anything to refute it, China telling us that they are increasing prices 30% (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/china-devalues-us-buying-power-by-30-protects-us-treasury-holdings-read-more/msg171449/#msg171449) by the summer is a strategic move to cripple the remaining middle class. Basically telling us that the dollar is definitely not worth what it is printed on.

I believe it is shortsighted to think China is not a threat. You need to think in decades, not in years or months.

I was listening to RBN earlier and Stadtmiller was going off about the free trade corridor in Texas and Chinese nationals moving in. I will look for some more verification of this. If anyone has the RBN archive membership, it was early in tonight's show with Bob Chapman.

MAGNES
25th January 2011, 04:14 PM
http://www.house.gov/coxreport/chapfs/ch1.html


CHAPTER SUMMARY
THE STRUCTURE OF THE PRC GOVERNMENT

COSTIND: The CCP's Use of Corporations for Military Aims

CCP Supremacy Over the State, the PLA, and the Economy

DEVELOPMENT OF THE CCP'S TECHNOLOGY POLICIES

The 863 and Super-863 Programs:
Importing Technologies for Military Use

Biological Warfare

Space Technology

Military Information Technology

Laser Weapons

Automation Technology

Nuclear Weapons

Exotic Materials

The 16-Character Policy: 'Give Priority to Military Products'

The PRC's Use of Intelligence Services to Acquire U.S. Military Technology

METHODS USED BY THE PRC TO ACQUIRE ADVANCED
U.S. MILITARY TECHNOLOGY

The 'Princelings'

Acquisition of Military Technology from Other Governments

Russia

Israel

The United States

Joint Ventures with U.S. Companies

Acquisition and Exploitation of Dual-Use Technologies

Front Companies

Direct Collection of Technology by
Non-Intelligence Agencies and Individuals

Illegal Export of Military Technology
Purchased in the United States

PRC Purchase of Interests in U.S. Companies

Methods Used by the PRC to Export
Military Technology from the United States

PRC Incentives for U.S. Companies to
Advocate Relaxation of Export Controls

THE PRC'S EFFORTS TO ASSIMILATE
ADVANCED U.S. MILITARY TECHNOLOGY
U.S. GOVERNMENT MONITORING OF PRC TECHNOLOGY
ACQUISITION EFFORTS IN THE UNITED STATES
CHAPTER 1 NOTES

http://i53.tinypic.com/21bqfl5.jpg

China is a part of the plans to destroy the West,
same plans, different players, building them up is
part of it. Denver Masonic Airport images are part
of this too, again this is their history.



We spent the soviet union into oblivion and we will do the same to the Chinese and if that does not work out like we planned.


The US , did not spend the USSR into oblivion, the USSR was their
creation and propped up right to the end. Then whatever was left
the Jews pillaged, the Oligarchs. With the help of Jews like Orszag and
Summers.

osoab
25th January 2011, 04:48 PM
For what it is worth ... received by email a couple days ago .... not verified so consider it gossip



http://ia.ita.doc.gov/ftzpage/letters/ftzlist-map.html


I looked at the ones for Illinois, all of them are set up @ Corporate Head Quarters of companies.

I found a few dead links while perusing the site. http://ia.ita.doc.gov/ftzpage/asf/ftz26.html
All of the stuff on the top left are dead.

ShortJohnSilver
25th January 2011, 05:29 PM
http://www.elpasotexas.gov/ftz/benefits_of_ftz.asp



The FTZ program helps American and foreign companies improve their competitive position in the global market economy. The FTZ program allows U.S.-based companies to defer, reduce or even eliminate Customs duties on products admitted to the zone.

Deferral of Duties: Customs duties are paid only when and if merchandise is transferred into U.S. Customs and Border Protection territory. This benefit equates to a cash flow savings that allows companies to keep critical funds accessible for their operating needs while the merchandise remains in the zone. There is no time limit on the length of time that merchandise can remain in a zone.

Reduction of Duties: In a FTZ, with the permission of the Foreign-Trade Zones Board, users are allowed to elect a zone status on merchandise admitted to the zone. This zone status determines the duty rate that will be applied to foreign merchandise if it is eventually entered into U.S. commerce from the FTZ. This process allows users to elect the lower duty rate of that applicable to either the foreign inputs or the finished product manufactured in the zone. If the rate on the foreign inputs admitted to the zone is higher that the rate applied to the finished product, the FTZ user may choose the finished product rate, thereby reducing the amount of duty owed.

Elimination of Duties: No duties are paid on merchandise exported from a FTZ. Therefore, duty is eliminated on foreign merchandise admitted to the zone but eventually exported from the FTZ. Generally, duties are also eliminated for merchandise that is scrapped, wasted, destroyed or consumed in a zone.

Avoid Customs Fines and Seizures: Merchandise can be admitted into an FTZ without markings, visa or quota documentation, while bringing their products or documentation into compliance with customs regulations.

No Duty on Waste: Merchandise that arrives damaged or is subject to defect, obsolescence, waste, or scrap, can be returned, stored in the FTZ, or destroyed without having to pay duty or taxes.

Elimination of Drawback: In some instances, duties previously paid on exported merchandise may be refunded through a process called drawback. The drawback law has become increasingly complex and expensive to administer. Through the use of a FTZ, the need for drawback may be eliminated allowing these funds to remain in the operating capital of the company.

Labor, Overhead, and Profit: In calculating the dutiable value on foreign merchandise removed from a zone, zone users are authorized to exclude zone costs of processing or fabrication, general expenses and profit. Therefore, duties are not owed on labor, overhead and profit attributed to production in a FTZ.
Taxes: By federal statute, tangible personal property imported from outside the U.S. and held in a zone, as well as that produced in the U.S. and held in a zone for exportation, are not subject to State and local ad valorem taxes.

Quotas: U.S. quota restrictions do not apply to merchandise admitted to zones, although quotas will apply if and when the merchandise is subsequently entered into U.S. commerce. Merchandise subject to quota, with the permission of the Foreign-Trade Zones Board, may be substantially transformed in a FTZ to a non-quota article that may then be entered into U.S. Customs and Border Protection territory, free of quota restrictions. Quota merchandise may be stored in a FTZ so that when the quota opens, the merchandise may be immediately shipped into U.S. Customs and Border Protection territory.

Zone-to-Zone Transfer: An increasing number of firms are making use of the ability to transfer merchandise from one zone to another. Because the merchandise is transported in-bond, duty may be deferred until the product is removed from the final zone for entry into the U.S. Customs and Border Protection territory.

Improve Cash Flow and Profitability: Through special Customs procedures such as Weekly Entry and Weekly Exports, companies can save on Customs transaction fees and expedite shipments out of an FTZ, thus improving their competitiveness.

Reduced Bond & Brokerage Costs: In an FTZ the cost of buying an entry bond is eliminated, and brokerage fees are reduced because there is no post entry work.

Some local advantages in Foreign-Trade Zone No. 68

One-stop shop, U.S. Customs Inspectors located onsite at FTZ administrative offices
Strategically located on the U.S.- Mexico border
Advanced telecommunications systems for clearing merchandise in and out of the zone
Located on a major interstate highway system with international trucking facilities
Access to rail facilities serving every major North American market
Abundant air cargo handlers and facilities at a modern international airport
Streamlined FTZ procedures for prompt distribution of merchandise
Tax exemption of inventory held in active zone

Small Manufacturing Business Accelerator (SMBA) Project
The SMBA is a project that helps small manufacturing companies expand their markets or compete on a global basis through the use of El Paso’s Foreign-Trade Zone. The objective of this project is to act as a catalyst for development of business by reducing the start up cost and accelerating the approval process for a small manufacturing business to set up in FTZ No. 68.

Start-up Incentives:

A business selected for this project would be permitted to activate a FTZ facility for a period of one year without any Grantee/Operator transaction fees being charged to the business.
Receive start up support from FTZ No. 68 Grantee/Operator, and
FTZ Operations Training fees waived for up to four (4) key employees during initial year.

General of Darkness
25th January 2011, 06:07 PM
The Chinese are just slant eyed jews. This is what I say. ;D

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z201/mneberha/dragon3.png

skid
25th January 2011, 06:53 PM
I wouldn't under-estimate China...

For thousands of years they were the worlds greatest economy and manufacturing center (and probably the greatest military power). When the european nations first sailed to China for trade they had no finished goods the Chinese didn't have already or wanted so they traded silver for Chinese finished products. Then, for a brief period first Britain (industrial revolution) and then America took over as the largest manufacturers and economies.

If the world clicked along as per normal, eventually their economy/manufacturing/military would become the most powerful as well. However, with peak everything they may not get their chance.

Hillbilly
25th January 2011, 11:51 PM
China is all hot air. We need need a bogeyman right now and they are it. Sure they have lots of people...most of them un-educated. Lots of factories....yes but not used to building things to our high standards. They will crumple under their own weight. They dare not awake the Sleeping Giant that is America. No country in the world dares do that. They all talk a good game but when it comes right down to rolling up their sleeves and getting into the ring with the USA, they all have 'shit in their necks'

Buddha
26th January 2011, 01:55 AM
The Chinese are just slant eyed jews. This is what I say. ;D

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z201/mneberha/dragon3.png


And your a stupid goy. What of it?

sirgonzo420
26th January 2011, 06:31 AM
The Chinese are just slant eyed jews. This is what I say. ;D

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z201/mneberha/dragon3.png


And you're a stupid goy. What of it?



Fixed it for you.


;)