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PatColo
26th January 2011, 11:45 AM
SILVER'S New FAKE Counterpart, Molybdenum! (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/375/039/SILVERS_New_FAKE_Counterpart,_Molybdenum.html)

Monday, January 24, 2011 9:48

Remember when the Tungsten filled Gold bar Scam was Exposed? Well guess what?... there is another metal which matches Silver's Elemental Density almost as much as Tungsten matched Gold's, and that's... Molybdenum. It costs about $17/lb as opposed to Silver's $480/lb.

As Silver's price begins to rise, get ready for Molybdenum filled bars/coins, etc. It may already be taking place, so watch the video below and learn more about silver here: www.silverbarter.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNUOk9LcZcE&feature=player_embedded

JohnQPublic
26th January 2011, 07:01 PM
Moly and silver are direct counterparts in Mendeleev's preiodic table as are tungsten (Wolfram) and gold, so this makes sense.

Fabricated densified molybdenum is going for around $60/lb. (~$4.10/ozt.) these days (I recently got a quote- and not for making silver bars!). And that's for a few hundred pounds of large plates. Tungste is more than 2x the cost per lb (and denser to start with). To then fabricate bullion bars and plate them with silver will add some cost, but it may be economically feasible with silver at $30/ozt. It certainly does not have the profit driver that gold-tungsten has (at least not yet). I bought some moly for work 10 years ago and it was about $24/lb. then (extruded).

Fabricating moly is not easy. Usually it involves compressing and HIPping (like a hydroclave) moly oxide followed by hydrogen reduction to produce a porous billet of moly. The the billet is rolled or extruded to produce densified material. A more expensive option is to arc melt it. Tungsten follows similar routes, and has similar (slightly higher pricing). Neither moly nor tungsten are very ductile (tungsten is worse than moly).

Note: corrected cost. checked my notes.

hoarder
26th January 2011, 08:28 PM
Good video to read, turn the volume off.

ximmy
26th January 2011, 11:27 PM
Can hardly be any more fake than a paper note.

Several years ago a central America county when bankrupt. They reverted to U.S. dollars for their currency. The U.S. shipped down about $15 million sacagawea (gold-colored) dollars. The natives thought they were great. The face on the coin was identical to their features and they really thought the U.S. had come up with the coin to honor them.

They turned out to be so popular that Columbia started producing sacagawea's for export. Hard to believe a $1 coin has the margin to generate a profit but all it has to do is fool one person.


That's funny... :)

StreetsOfGold
9th March 2011, 05:48 PM
There is no evidence that this is indeed happening, however, I think (with everything going on) it is reasonable to conclude that it most likely is. If someone could secure such a bar, that would be the frosting on the cake.