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Twisted Titan
26th January 2011, 04:56 PM
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Credit cards may soon be as outdated as vinyl records. (Remember those?) And this is the year that the slow, steady march to oblivion begins.

You can already use your iPhone, Droid or BlackBerry to buy a hotdog at the ballgame, buy your Starbucks latté, or give a friend a few bucks by Bumping phones. But by the end of the year you may not even think twice about reaching for your phone to pay at the register instead of fumbling for your credit card.

"Your plastic card hasn't changed since the age of the vinyl records," said Michael Abbott, CEO of Isis, a new mobile payment network. "This is the chance to bring payments forward from the plastic age and the vinyl records age to the digital age."

While companies have been experimenting with contactless mobile payments for years, 2011 is expected to be the year the technology really takes off. That's because millions of phones capable of making contactless payments are expected to be shipped out in 2011.

As a result, this pay-by-phone market is forecast to make up $22 billion in transactions by 2015, up from "practically none" last year, according to research firm Aite Group.
0:00 /1:51Your phone is becoming your wallet

"Mobile payment is going to get really interesting and is going to see a lot of activity in 2011," said George Peabody, director of emerging technologies at Mercator Advisory Group. "We're going to start seeing more and more people leaving their homes without their wallets."

But that doesn't mean it's going to happen overnight, said Jane Cloninger, director at Edgar Dunn & Co., a consulting firm specializing in financial services and payments.

"I definitely believe that the mobile wallet will eventually replace the plastic card -- but it's going to take some time because consumer habits take a long time to change," she said. "But where before it's been a lot of discussion, we're at the point now where you're going to start seeing momentum toward it and going to see it move beyond the trials and into reality."

Companies including Visa, MasterCard, Google, Bank of America, Citi and U.S. Bank are all testing contactless mobile payments, and many expect to roll out mobile wallets this year.

"2011 is going to be a very exciting, very dynamic year when it comes to mobile payments because it's the Wild West again, with all these players positioning in various different ways to redefine the digital payments landscape," said Michael Upton, senior vice president of online and mobile banking at Bank of America, which expects to launch it own mobile wallet later this year.

Meanwhile, AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon joined forces with Discover and Barclays in November to form Isis and provide a rival to Visa and MasterCard.
9 ways your $$ is going sci-fi

"It's a glorious competitive battle amongst some of the largest entities in the country," said Peabody.

The Isis mobile wallet will let consumers store multiple cards, make payments with the wave of their phone, check balances, receive coupons and use rewards points at the point of sale. But it may stretch beyond just the money in your wallet. Abbott sees the potential to include your insurance cards, driver's licenses, and other information typically found in a wallet.

"[Payment] is where we're going to start, but where it goes is wide open to the innovation of other players who want to be involved," he said.

Beth Robertson, a payments analyst at Javelin Research and Strategy, said that could mean developing ways for consumers to make contactless ATM withdrawals by simply waving a phone in front of an ATM as you would at the point of sale.

But because of just how much your smartphone now holds, it's quickly becoming your most dangerous device.

"We're increasingly living our lives on our cell phones...The problem is that we're not yet used to thinking about our wallet in terms of our phone," said Ed Goodman of Identity Theft 911. "No matter how good security on any type of mobile banking or payments, there are going to be people who are able to find a way around it -- it's really all about making sure everyone ramps up their awareness."

http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/24/pf/e...ntent=My+Yahoo

iOWNme
26th January 2011, 05:02 PM
Saw a special on this years ago. It is on youtube, but i couldnt find it and forgot the name. (I might have it on my external HD) EVERYTHING you do will be through your phone.


TPTB knew from day 1 that no AMerican would accept their 'RFID' chip in a card to track them. Then while Americans argued over it, they quietly made sure you were addicted to the internet and socializing, so that you would willingly accept their death trap.

They just had to re-invent the same idea......

iOWNme
26th January 2011, 05:08 PM
Meanwhile, AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon joined forces with Discover and Barclays in November to form Isis and provide a rival to Visa and MasterCard.
9 ways your $$ is going sci-fi

"It's a glorious competitive battle amongst some of the largest entities in the country," said Peabody.

The Isis mobile wallet will let consumers store multiple cards, make payments with the wave of their phone, check balances, receive coupons and use rewards points at the point of sale. But it may stretch beyond just the money in your wallet. Abbott sees the potential to include your insurance cards, driver's licenses, and other information typically found in a wallet.

Beth Robertson, a payments analyst at Javelin Research and Strategy, said that could mean developing ways for consumers to make contactless ATM withdrawals by simply waving a phone in front of an ATM as you would at the point of sale.

But because of just how much your smartphone now holds, it's quickly becoming your most dangerous device.



Isis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis)

http://www.africawithin.com/kemit/isis1.jpg
http://wysinger.homestead.com/files/isis9.jpg

Cobalt
26th January 2011, 05:27 PM
My phone isn't capable of paying and if they think I am going to buy a new phone and pay for a data plan so I can use their service they are sadly mistaken.

Cash works just fine

Jazkal
26th January 2011, 06:13 PM
Cash works just fine

At least til they do away with the dollar and the replacement is 100% digital

ximmy
26th January 2011, 10:33 PM
My phone isn't capable of paying and if they think I am going to buy a new phone and pay for a data plan so I can use their service they are sadly mistaken.

Cash works just fine


You must conform... just like your old TV won't work anymore, neither will your plastic... and as an added benefit, your "betters" will be able to pinpoint your exact location, monitoring you at all times... ;D ;D ;D

midnight rambler
26th January 2011, 11:00 PM
it's quickly becoming your most dangerous device.

What's very interesting is when one is arrested around here they make damn sure your cell phone goes to jail with you and is not left in your car.

Serpo
26th January 2011, 11:50 PM
Does that mean we dont have to be chipped...... :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa :baa

Hillbilly
27th January 2011, 12:54 AM
Fucking A pretty soon half the population will not be able to take shit with out their cell phone. They'll need it to locate the toilet for them via GPS then give them step by step instructions on how to wipe.

This is bullshit the mark of the beat is around the corner and it's all going to be made possible by people's fucking addiction to cell phones!!!!

EE_
27th January 2011, 01:30 AM
I did some work at a college today and while driving through the campus I noticed this strange new affliction affecting most of our youth.
They appear to have some sort of neck disorder that causes their head to bend forward in a locked position while walking. They are not able to turn thier head to see traffic while crossing streets. This appears to be a danger to their health.
Here's a photo of an afflicted individual, many are more pronounced.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/06/10/nyregion/blackberry.480.jpg

Is it possible this is a developemental issue?

http://abrilliantblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/blackberry-baby.jpg

Awoke
27th January 2011, 05:11 AM
Meanwhile, AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon joined forces with Discover and Barclays in November to form Isis and provide a rival to Visa and MasterCard.
9 ways your $$ is going sci-fi


Isis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis)

http://www.africawithin.com/kemit/isis1.jpg


Like everything, hidden in plain sight.

Sirius Satellite radio logo, with a pentagram in the eye of the dog.

http://www.bmwcoop.com/wp-content/images/2008/12/sirius.jpg





The priests stated that Sirius had a companion star (SiriusB), which was invisible to the human eye; this star follows a 50-year elliptical orbit around Sirius. They further described SiriusB to be a small and incredibly heavy star that rotates on its axis. What is incredible about this legend is that it predates modern western astronomy knowledge by more than 4,000 years. Even if they had had access to current astronomy textbooks, they still could not have known about SiriusB. They also had a detailed knowledge of the rotations and orbits of the planets in our own solar system and of


According to the priests, they learned of the existence of SiriusB from unearthly sources. This source was called the “Nommos”. These were amphibian-looking beings that arrived in an, “Ark accompanied by thunder and fire”. The legend depicts the “Nommos” as partly fishlike in appearance and living mostly in the sea. These creatures bear a striking similarity to the creatures called Oannes by the Babylonians and the Sumerian creature called Enki. Even the Egyptian god Isis was depicted as what would be later termed a mermaid. In all cases, these “gods” were related to the worship of Sirius.

jimswift
27th January 2011, 08:55 AM
You could tell the smartphones were going to be the national ID cards a year or two ago when they started talking bout how all your medical info could be stored on one through an app.

Then last year i saw that there is an app where you can deposit a check in your account by just taking a picture of the front and the back of the check. Do you just destroy the check then?

The cell market will devolve down to 2 carriers if not one with only smartphones being available. Data plans are dropping in price and before long it will just be part of your phone bill.

It is a back door, nobody will notice move.

Did Verizon or AT&T give up their customers info to DHS?

Also, with a strictly digital money system, will usury still be necessary?

Cobalt
27th January 2011, 10:07 AM
I did some work at a college today and while driving through the campus I noticed this strange new affliction affecting most of our youth.
They appear to have some sort of neck disorder that causes their head to bend forward in a locked position while walking. They are not able to turn thier head to see traffic while crossing streets. This appears to be a danger to their health.
Here's a photo of an afflicted individual, many are more pronounced.




A senator just put forward a bill too make it illegal to cross the street while using an electronic devise

The bill has been passed on to the transportation committee. If passed, however, it would become illegal to walk across the street while using an electronic device. Anyone breaking the law would receive a summons to appear in court and also a $100 fine.


More here
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/150876/_senator_introduces_bill_to_stop_people.html

Jazkal
27th January 2011, 10:31 AM
A senator just put forward a bill too make it illegal to cross the street while using an electronic devise

Thankfully this is for NY only, ATM.

Awoke
27th January 2011, 10:41 AM
Also, with a strictly digital money system, will usury still be necessary?


Usury is not necessary now, nor was it when we had a gold standard.
Of course they will keep usury in play, even in a strictly digital monetary system, as it serves to enslave the goyim with debt and make them rich from non-existant currency.

Antonio
27th January 2011, 10:50 AM
I`ve had only a throwaway trackfone since last year, never had a cellphone before. I my cell only for emergency 1-2 minute calls.
When I talk secrets face to face with my phone in my pocket, I pull out the battery, that way the govt can`t use it to listen to your BS, they can still listen when a cell is off as long as the battery is still in.

woodman
27th January 2011, 04:16 PM
I`ve had only a throwaway trackfone since last year, never had a cellphone before. I my cell only for emergency 1-2 minute calls.
When I talk secrets face to face with my phone in my pocket, I pull out the battery, that way the govt can`t use it to listen to your BS, they can still listen when a cell is off as long as the battery is still in.


I used to use a pre-pay trackfone and found it was the cheapest way to have a cell phone if you only use it occasionally. You can get the minutes cheaper by buying large quantities and specials. If you use your phone alot it is very expensive and a plan phone is the only way. My lady fears we are all being monitored by our phones and computers too. Hell, I can't even cop a feel in the office with the computer on!