Inside North Korea

[Serpo]

The autor is Artemii Lebedev, one of the leading web-designers in Russia. He recently went on a trip to DPRK

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8Dcxa3JBWAMJ:www.mrlevek.com/northkorea.htm+%3Ca%20href=

[Cobalt]

That was excellent, can't say I have ever viewed pictures of NK and I found it quite interesting
Thanks

[bellevuebully]

Looks as fun as a barrel full of monkies.




:sarc:

[Low_five]

Interesting pictures of best Korea. Thats probably how the whole world would look if there was no petroleum or credit.

[kregener]

Virtually ALL the buildings were sagging and looked about to implode.

[Serpo]

How about the giant blocks on the road sides ,in the ready to stop invading tanks......always pays to be prepared I guess....... :o

[Spectrism]

That place looks like it is run by a paranoid nutcase.

[Antonio]

That place looks like it is run by a paranoid nutcase.


Infinitely prefer paranoid nutcases to degenerates.

http://www.playboy.com/

Can`t be bought in NK.

[Antonio]

The autor is Artemii Lebedev, one of the leading web-designers in Russia. He recently went on a trip to DPRK

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8Dcxa3JBWAMJ:www.mrlevek.com/northkorea.htm+%3Ca%20href=


I used to hang out with Artemii Lebedev`s brother, it`s truly a small world. We didn`t agree about anything politically.

[Book]

Virtually ALL the buildings were sagging and looked about to implode.



Detroit?

[willie pete]

some of the scenes remind me of Orwell's 1984 .....a black and white landscape, dreary and depressing, truly a land of zombies :D ....hey, guess you could say the same thing about detroit.... :D :D

[Antonio]

some of the scenes remind me of Orwell's 1984 .....a black and white landscape, dreary and depressing, truly a land of zombies :D ....

I thought for a sec that you were talking about NYC.

[mamboni]

The people are treated like kept children, symbolized by the infantile little bears statuaries. Everything is unkempt because no one owns anything and no one has an incentive to maintain anything. Things gets fixed only when they break down and the army is then ordered to fix it. Of course, the army no doubt has a very long "to do" list and has no incentive to hurry it up. In a socialist dictatorship, the worker will say "they pretend to pay us; we pretend to work." In the end, nothing gets done, there is no progress, and the human spirit slowly withers.

It's very sad to see innocent millions in bondage like this.

[Antonio]

The people are treated like kept children, symbolized by the infantile little bears statuaries. Everything is unkempt because no one owns anything and no one has an incentive to maintain anything. Things gets fixed only when they break down and the army is then ordered to fix it. Of course, the army no doubt has a very long "to do" list and has no incentive to hurry it up. In a socialist dictatorship, the worker will say "they pretend to pay us; we pretend to work." In the end, nothing gets done, there is no progress, and the human spirit slowly withers.

It's very sad to see innocent millions in bondage like this.


NK is a perversion of Stalinism. I could write a long article about this but I won`t. I`ll just say this:
Churchill said about Stalin:" Stalin took Russia with a plough and left her with an atom bomb. Well, the history does not forget such men".

When Stalin died, he left 700 rubles, a soldiers uniform, a pair of boots that he personally mended being a shoemaker`s son, a pistol and a piano.
He ate from the Kremlin soldiers` kitchen, his kids lived in communal appartments and went to WW2 on the 1st day as front line soldiers.

The NK top gook drinks the most expensive liquors and wines, him and his offspring live in obscene luxury.
fuck them but you gotta admit you cain`t buy no porn nor dope in NK.

[FunnyMoney]

What, no pictures of the torture chambers? No drive by to the slave labor camps? I guess we can only imagine.

At least here in America we got a picture of Abu Ghraib ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse

[optionT]

This is a pretty good mini-documentary......


The Vice Guide to North Korea - Part 01


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6ixGYzbLz0

[Serpo]

The people are treated like kept children, symbolized by the infantile little bears statuaries. Everything is unkempt because no one owns anything and no one has an incentive to maintain anything. Things gets fixed only when they break down and the army is then ordered to fix it. Of course, the army no doubt has a very long "to do" list and has no incentive to hurry it up. In a socialist dictatorship, the worker will say "they pretend to pay us; we pretend to work." In the end, nothing gets done, there is no progress, and the human spirit slowly withers.

It's very sad to see innocent millions in bondage like this.


NK is a perversion of Stalinism. I could write a long article about this but I won`t. I`ll just say this:
Churchill said about Stalin:" Stalin took Russia with a plough and left her with an atom bomb. Well, the history does not forget such men".

When Stalin died, he left 700 rubles, a soldiers uniform, a pair of boots that he personally mended being a shoemaker`s son, a pistol and a piano.
He ate from the Kremlin soldiers` kitchen, his kids lived in communal appartments and went to WW2 on the 1st day as front line soldiers.

The NK top gook drinks the most expensive liquors and wines, him and his offspring live in obscene luxury.
fuck them but you gotta admit you cain`t buy no porn nor dope in NK.


Looks like Stalin was old school............ :oo-->

[FunnyMoney]

So some think Stalin wasn't so bad, what's a few million deaths and some unknown number of tortures anyway?



I read the article and saw the pics, and videos, I don't call that telling it like it is.
At GSUS, at least when I'm around, nobody gets a free ride.

So then, "Inside North Korea", really now? ...


As a firsthand witness to the horrors of the political prison camps in North Korea, I want to disclose to the world the unbelievable human rights abuse going on in these camps.

The human rights of women are weighed as less than nothing in these establishments. In Camp No. 14, there is an executive suite for visiting department heads or cadres at a similar level. When these high level officials come to the camp, attractive female prisoners between the ages of 21 to 25 are picked out to serve them as sex slaves. To conceal such practices, documents are forged convicting the ravished women of escape attempts, who are clandestinely murdered afterwards. This practice is repeated whenever a cadre comes visiting from Pyongyang. I am sure you find this hard to even imagine.

You will be even more surprised to hear that the prisoners in Camp No. 14 are used as guinea pigs for developing chemical warfare technology. It is no exaggeration when I say that death lurks in every corner of the camp establishment at every moment. http://www.chosunjournal.com/yongkimtestimony.html


...more...

http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/testimony.cfm?id=292&wit_id=665

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/19/1026898919587.html

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-philadelphia/inside-a-north-korean-prison-camp

[Antonio]

So some think Stalin wasn't so bad, what's a few million deaths and some unknown number of tortures anyway?


Since NK is a Stalinist state and I`m somewhat of an authority on all Stalin-related matters ( my gigantic library of Russian political books is within my reach), what method did Stalin choose for disposing of the bodies of those millions that he "killed"?

[vacuum]

So some think Stalin wasn't so bad, what's a few million deaths and some unknown number of tortures anyway?


Since NK is a Stalinist state and I`m somewhat of an authority on all Stalin-related matters ( my gigantic library of Russian political books is within my reach), what method did Stalin choose for disposing of the bodies of those millions that he "killed"?

Since it was primarily wide-spread starvation, they were probably buried by their relatives in small graves all across the country.

[Spectrism]

So some think Stalin wasn't so bad, what's a few million deaths and some unknown number of tortures anyway?


Since NK is a Stalinist state and I`m somewhat of an authority on all Stalin-related matters ( my gigantic library of Russian political books is within my reach), what method did Stalin choose for disposing of the bodies of those millions that he "killed"?


LOL... Stalin was a good man... yeah sure. When you asked this question, I was willing to consider the possibility that I have been fed lies most of my life about Stalin, Hitler,.... everything. But I recall there being a brutal empire that imprisoned eastern europe and sent perhaps hundreds of thousands to gulags. Your rhetorical question about how bodies were disposed of is one that puts the burden of proof impossibly on those who were not there. Since we cannot point to mass graves or bone remnants, it must never have happened- is how your reasoning would go. I can tell you that many millions can easily be put into shallow graves and never seen again.

Your quaint picture of the heirlooms of Stalin being like the common worker totally neglects the political legacy he left. Were the people of Russia left with better liberty and God-given rights after Stalin's work? Hmmmm.... didn't Stalin disavow any God?

[RJB]

Thanks for the pics. I really enjoyed them. I lived in S Korea for 2 years. I love the people and the culture and the food... I even ferment kimchi. I would have like to have seen a few more pictures of Panmunjon from the North Korean side since I could only see it from the south. It's sad how TPTB divided that nation.

[Book]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2009/07/kimjongil_01.jpg <---looky at him while the FED robs us blind :oo-->

[Antonio]

Ok, USSR had 180 mil population in 1941, it translates into about 90 mil males, half of whom were of the reproductive age. During WW2 USSR lost 27 mil, about 10 mil of those were soldiers, 17 mil dead were civilians,kids,women and old folk.

So, out of 45 mil of males of the reproductive age, USSR lost 10 mil. That left USSR with 35 mil males of the reproductive age in 1945.

About the camps. Women,old men and kids are useless in Siberian mines so if you put anyone in there, you gotta put males of the reproductive age.


In 1989 USSR had 280 mil population.


The question is: did Stalin and future Soviet leaders practice cloning? There was a huge shortage of males after the war.
There were numerous cases where WOMEN gang-raped a poor Russkie dude in order to conceive.

Who made all those Soviet babies after the war if Hitler and Stalin killed all Soviet reproductive males?

[Spectrism]

Ok, USSR had 180 mil population in 1941, it translates into about 90 mil males, half of whom were of the reproductive age. During WW2 USSR lost 27 mil, about 10 mil of those were soldiers, 17 mil dead were civilians,kids,women and old folk.

So, out of 45 mil of males of the reproductive age, USSR lost 10 mil. That left USSR with 35 mil males of the reproductive age in 1945.

About the camps. Women,old men and kids are useless in Siberian mines so if you put anyone in there, you gotta put males of the reproductive age.


In 1989 USSR had 280 mil population.


The question is: did Stalin and future Soviet leaders practice cloning? There was a huge shortage of males after the war.
There were numerous cases where WOMEN gang-raped a poor Russkie dude in order to conceive.

Who made all those Soviet babies after the war if Hitler and Stalin killed all Soviet reproductive males?


Where did you get your numbers? From the ministry of truth?

[vacuum]

Again, starvation primarily kills everyone except reproductive males.

[Antonio]

Ok, USSR had 180 mil population in 1941, it translates into about 90 mil males, half of whom were of the reproductive age. During WW2 USSR lost 27 mil, about 10 mil of those were soldiers, 17 mil dead were civilians,kids,women and old folk.

So, out of 45 mil of males of the reproductive age, USSR lost 10 mil. That left USSR with 35 mil males of the reproductive age in 1945.

About the camps. Women,old men and kids are useless in Siberian mines so if you put anyone in there, you gotta put males of the reproductive age.


In 1989 USSR had 280 mil population.


The question is: did Stalin and future Soviet leaders practice cloning? There was a huge shortage of males after the war.
There were numerous cases where WOMEN gang-raped a poor Russkie dude in order to conceive.

Who made all those Soviet babies after the war if Hitler and Stalin killed all Soviet reproductive males?


Where did you get your numbers? From the ministry of truth?

These are the official numbers not disputed by anyone but Russian schizo anti-stalinists still scream about 40 mil that he killed.
I learned about these ## in my early-30s, before that I was just like any of you, thought Stalin was the biggest monster of all.
Americans are not to blame for not knowing about all this, plenty Russians themselves are zombified.

[Book]

Again, starvation primarily kills everyone except reproductive males.



http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Y8RHY590L.jpg

...and really hot childless women. They eat real good.

:D

[RJB]

These are the official numbers not disputed by anyone but Russian schizo anti-stalinists still scream about 40 mil that he killed.
I learned about these ## in my early-30s, before that I was just like any of you, thought Stalin was the biggest monster of all.
Americans are not to blame for not knowing about all this, plenty Russians themselves are zombified.
I may be wrong (it's been a while and I'm just starting take a good look at Russian history) but I thought most of the mass execution/murder were committed by Lenin. I mostly associate Stalin with the internal purges of those around him in the communist party and the mass starvation of the holodomor.

[Antonio]

These are the official numbers not disputed by anyone but Russian schizo anti-stalinists still scream about 40 mil that he killed.
I learned about these ## in my early-30s, before that I was just like any of you, thought Stalin was the biggest monster of all.
Americans are not to blame for not knowing about all this, plenty Russians themselves are zombified.
I may be wrong (it's been a while and I'm just starting take a good look at Russian history) but I thought most of the mass execution/murder were committed by Lenin. I mostly associate Stalin with the internal purges of those around him in the communist party and the mass starvation of the holodomor.


You are very close to the truth. Lenin/Trotsky&Co killed at least 5-6 mil of the best Russian folk, the aristocracy. Stalin purged all the fucking Trotskyist scum and shot 600000 during his entire 30 yr reign, this includes the common criminals. He also put 1.6 mil in camps for lesser political and regular crimes.
Most of them survived the camps and came back home.

Holodomor is a total lie, much more so that the Holycost.

All you need to know is here:
http://www.stalinsociety.org.uk/presentations.html

these people are shit-poor/not NWO sponsored and this is the only English language source of Stalin truth except Antonio who uses the Occam`s razor on daily basis.

[Serpo]

So some think Stalin wasn't so bad, what's a few million deaths and some unknown number of tortures anyway?



I read the article and saw the pics, and videos, I don't call that telling it like it is.
At GSUS, at least when I'm around, nobody gets a free ride.

So then, "Inside North Korea", really now? ...


As a firsthand witness to the horrors of the political prison camps in North Korea, I want to disclose to the world the unbelievable human rights abuse going on in these camps.

The human rights of women are weighed as less than nothing in these establishments. In Camp No. 14, there is an executive suite for visiting department heads or cadres at a similar level. When these high level officials come to the camp, attractive female prisoners between the ages of 21 to 25 are picked out to serve them as sex slaves. To conceal such practices, documents are forged convicting the ravished women of escape attempts, who are clandestinely murdered afterwards. This practice is repeated whenever a cadre comes visiting from Pyongyang. I am sure you find this hard to even imagine.

You will be even more surprised to hear that the prisoners in Camp No. 14 are used as guinea pigs for developing chemical warfare technology. It is no exaggeration when I say that death lurks in every corner of the camp establishment at every moment. http://www.chosunjournal.com/yongkimtestimony.html


...more...

http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/testimony.cfm?id=292&wit_id=665

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/19/1026898919587.html

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-philadelphia/inside-a-north-korean-prison-camp




What they do to people in those camps is totally inhumane .


also .....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFvO2BKhWqg&NR=1&feature=fvwp

[bellevuebully]

That place looks like it is run by a paranoid nutcase.


No.....just a rittr ronery.