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Serpo
31st January 2011, 03:59 PM
Well known in NZ but not anywhere else.....

Most people grew up being taught that the mighty race of dinosaurs went extinct about 65 million years ago. But it's not true; dinosaurs still walk the Earth.

No, it isn't a T-Rex or a living relative of the Loch Ness Monster...but it is one of the oldest living creatures on Earth.



A dinosaur that didn't go extinct 60 million years ago may be news to some people, including many Western paleontologists that have created a cottage industry debunking living dinosaur stories. Well here's one they can't debunk because even New Zealand scientists agree that this dinosaur specimen is the real deal!

For only the second time in more than two centuries a genuine baby dinosaur has been seen on the mainland of New Zealand and the news has scientists bubbling over with undisguised joy.

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/385/375/Live_baby_dinosaur_discovered_in_New_Zealand.html

“This is a significant and exciting discovery!” exclaimed Nancy McIntosh-Ward the Zealandia Chief Executive. Zealandia is a non-profit animal and bird sancaury in Wellington, New Zealand.



Meet the tuataras

Often called living fossils by those who know they really do exist, the tuataras sure might look like a lizard, but they're not. The tuatara is really a living dinosaur that belongs to the order Rhynchocephalia. That order of dinosaur became extinct about 60 million years in the past. All went extinct...except the tuataras.

This particular dinosaur specimen is about three months old. The discovery has many top scientists thinking that more baby tuataras exist.

McIntosh-Ward noted, “We were overjoyed to find our first baby tuatara in March last year, now the discovery of a second youngster confirms that tuatara are successfully breeding in Zealandia-–the only place on the mainland where tuatara live freely."

Conservation ecologist Susan Keall of Victoria University declared the news of the baby tuatara exciting. “Baby tuataras are very small and very cryptic in their behavior. It strongly suggests there are others.”

No known natural predators

One of the most un-evolved animals found anywhere on Earth, the tuatara are a dinosaur species that's remained unchanged since it first appeared 200 million years ago. Fossil and DNA analysis allows its lineage to be traced back to the Late Triassic during the Mesozoic Era.

Scientists believe the animals managed to survive in New Zealand because it has no natural predators.

"With a population of 200 tuatara we can assume there are many more youngsters but with them being so small in such a large area it is hard for us to monitor their breeding," McIntosh-Ward added.

For fascinating tuataras facts click here.

Bullion_Bob
31st January 2011, 04:09 PM
That pic above is apparently "Henry" who just became a father at 111 years old.

Holy sh*t!

http://www.ok4me2.net/2009/01/26/reptile-becomes-a-father-at-111/

StreetsOfGold
31st January 2011, 04:43 PM
Dinosaurs (word did not exist brefore 1848..ish) were called dragons ie. (terrible lizard) and they LIVED WITH MEN and not millions of years ago. sheesh the brainwashing going on is incredible.

They lived pre-FLOOD not pre-historic. There is NO SUCH THING as pre-historic. The global flood drowned them out and changed the weather conditions so that these lizards (people too) cannot live long enough to get to the size (lizards grow all their life) they WERE ... pre-flood (approx 4500 years ago) NOT millions.

Ponce
31st January 2011, 04:51 PM
The "Inca Stones" shows engravings of men and dino not that long ago.

Bullion_Bob
31st January 2011, 04:58 PM
Dinosaurs (word did not exist brefore 1848..ish) were called dragons ie. (terrible lizard) and they LIVED WITH MEN and not millions of years ago. sheesh the brainwashing going on is incredible.

They lived pre-FLOOD not pre-historic. There is NO SUCH THING as pre-historic. The global flood drowned them out and changed the weather conditions so that these lizards (people too) cannot live long enough to get to the size (lizards grow all their life) they WERE ... pre-flood (approx 4500 years ago) NOT millions.


Going on the speed light travels, and how far away things are in the universe, there certainly is many, many millions of years to be accounted for.

Maybe God created the universe, then he went to sleep for a dozen+ billion years before he decided to shake and bake planet earth?

willie pete
31st January 2011, 05:10 PM
some of the comments under the article debunk the dinosaur hypothesis

Bullion_Bob
31st January 2011, 06:05 PM
It's a subjective term. Look at any shark, deep sea fish, bird, or crocodile for that matter and you're looking at dinosaurs only more refined. A larger fin here or there, slightly bigger or smaller, it's the same blood lines, and genetic repetition all the way up the ladder from fungus to man, and everything in between.

To deny there is life elsewhere in the universe would be ridiculous. The bible didn't quite get it right, as it tossed Galileo in jail for a couple decades for simply pointing out the world was not the center of the universe.

kregener
31st January 2011, 06:13 PM
Look! A lizard!

Bullion_Bob
31st January 2011, 06:22 PM
Look! A lizard!


Dinosaurs were all giant lizards, or more precisely, lizards are much smaller dinosaurs. What we have living now are genetic echoes with much less body armor. The one depicted has much stronger ancestral characteristics enough to be categorized along side with it's now fossilized remnants.

Silvestor
1st February 2011, 12:37 AM
Dinosaurs (word did not exist brefore 1848..ish) were called dragons ie. (terrible lizard) and they LIVED WITH MEN and not millions of years ago. sheesh the brainwashing going on is incredible.

They lived pre-FLOOD not pre-historic. There is NO SUCH THING as pre-historic. The global flood drowned them out and changed the weather conditions so that these lizards (people too) cannot live long enough to get to the size (lizards grow all their life) they WERE ... pre-flood (approx 4500 years ago) NOT millions.


You are saying that the dinosaurs drowned in the biblical flood because they were too big to fit in Noah's ark.

http://i56.tinypic.com/fkyvk6.jpg

nunaem
1st February 2011, 05:52 AM
Maybe God created the universe, then he went to sleep for a dozen+ billion years before he decided to shake and bake planet earth?


Apparently he half-baked some of his creatures though.

gunDriller
1st February 2011, 06:13 AM
when i was younger i wanted a Tuatara for a pet.

but i have to say Ken's bearded dragons look pretty cool.

horseshoe3
1st February 2011, 06:18 AM
The bible didn't quite get it right, as it tossed Galileo in jail for a couple decades for simply pointing out the world was not the center of the universe.


The bible didn't toss Galileo in jail. The pope did. There's a big difference.

"The Christian religion, when divested of the rags in which they [the clergy] have enveloped it, and brought to the original purity and simplicity of it's benevolent institutor, is a religion of all others most friendly to liberty, science, and the freest expansion of the human mind."
– Thomas Jefferson to Moses Robinson, 1801.

Santa
1st February 2011, 06:38 AM
In Mexico they'd eat its tail. :o

StreetsOfGold
1st February 2011, 07:19 AM
Dinosaurs (word did not exist brefore 1848..ish) were called dragons ie. (terrible lizard) and they LIVED WITH MEN and not millions of years ago. sheesh the brainwashing going on is incredible.

They lived pre-FLOOD not pre-historic. There is NO SUCH THING as pre-historic. The global flood drowned them out and changed the weather conditions so that these lizards (people too) cannot live long enough to get to the size (lizards grow all their life) they WERE ... pre-flood (approx 4500 years ago) NOT millions.


You are saying that the dinosaurs drowned in the biblical flood because they were too big to fit in Noah's ark.

http://i56.tinypic.com/fkyvk6.jpg




half correct, they drowned in the flood BUT were brought aboard the ark (babies, duh) they just do not live as long and under the increase oxygen conditions that existed before. There are tons of stories about dragons all the way up to the 3rd and 4th century. The Chinese calender even has a dragon because ALL of their years are based from REAL creatures not 11 real ones and 1 imaginary as you might have been led to believe.