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BillBoard
5th February 2011, 01:26 AM
Is Egypt a distraction from some other major world event that TPTB do not want people paying attention to?

Or is Egypt's turmoil really the pot boiling over and a harbinger of thing to come all over the world?

Any ideas of what's going on and can share those ideas with us?

snapon
5th February 2011, 03:23 AM
I think its part of a bigger plan.I think it started with something good in mind, but is now corrupted.

Silver Shield
5th February 2011, 04:52 AM
Egypt is part of a greater act by TPTB.

Every time the dollar loses support shit gets stirred up elsewhere in the world.

Bullion_Bob
5th February 2011, 05:06 AM
What's going on in Egypt is legitimate right now. You're looking at people waking up to 30 years of a realizing they have a US/Israel puppet in govt.

A lot of people in the ME are heavily scrutinizing their leaders, and finding out they are not who they say they are.

The only part that is becoming increasingly subjugated is the response to the protesters. The moles are working their way in to desperately keep control.

Realize PNAC is real, who the players are, their intentions, and you have you answer.

keehah
5th February 2011, 05:27 AM
Well the old Dictator was paid off by the US. The two alternatives are also UN corporate police state minions.
Nothing changes on the macro.

Question is, if the macro level can't toss cheap food at the problem in the next year or so, what happens with the awakened populace?

Do they work to take local power back themselves in some civil fashion?
Or does Egypt keep failing in accordance with the global process?

BillBoard
5th February 2011, 08:56 AM
Did anyone notice how the Egyptian government official keep talking about the damage to the economy?

All I hear when they talk about the economy is that they are worried about servicing the Banksters' debt demands.

I think the Egyptians have figured something out most of us have yet to figure out, mainly that the ultra-rich are just as vulnerable like the rest of us.

Can't wait to see if something like the turmoil in Egypt will happen in Latin America, I would hate to be a gringo in Colombia if that happens.

kregener
5th February 2011, 09:53 AM
Egypt is part of a greater act by TPTB.

Every time the dollar loses support shit gets stirred up elsewhere in the world.




This.

JDRock
5th February 2011, 10:11 AM
Is Egypt a distraction from some other major world event that TPTB do not want people paying attention to?

Or is Egypt's turmoil really the pot boiling over and a harbinger of thing to come all over the world?

Any ideas of what's going on and can share those ideas with us?


if israel is against it, it (imo) was genuine, if they back it either openly or covertly its staged. the words stability and sheenie ,arab OR israelli just doesnt mix.
either way tptb have planned for these unexpected events and have a plan b,c,d and so on.

Bullion_Bob
5th February 2011, 10:30 AM
Egypt is part of a greater act by TPTB.

Every time the dollar loses support shit gets stirred up elsewhere in the world.




What do you think it would look like when people wake up, and realize what's going on, and stop sitting down about it?

Planned distractions?

Ponce
5th February 2011, 10:58 AM
All that will rest on the shoulders of the US and we will pay for it........many enemies we will have and almost none will stand by our side......pay back will be a bich.

JJ.G0ldD0t
5th February 2011, 11:01 AM
Been talkin' w/ some buds over email about this ...

From our conversation:

Well guys, I have been watching this thing and reading a lot.>> Here are some things I think I see:>>
1. Riots are not for freedom or some lofty ideal, they are for food. > Prices/inflation have been running rampant there. the average > Egyptian spends 80% of income on food....wow.>
2. The us is almost entirely to blame for the commodity inflation... >
the money being printed had to land somewhere, it landed in commodities.>
3. Once everyone gets tired of our exported inflation, it will come > home to roost here, and in a BIG BIG way. Food first, or maybe oil....>
4. the period of deflation/stagflation that we had after the bust has > now run its course. What is happening in the ME will soon find its > way here.>
5. the fed has shown it will keep monetizing until the bernanke is > out of a job....>>>
I think it is time to start loading up the truck with silver and gold >
again....gold is attractive again since it looks like the 600 >
reporting issue is DOA, but silver is MUCH better priced...


another bud replies:


Pretty salient points. I think it's rather cute that the news sources around the globe paint this merely around regime change. Those folks are hungry, poor and pissed. What I want to know is how superfarmers like ADM and the like are going to keep being able to "Feed the world" as it were when things like commodity prices, especially oil skyrocket? One would think that the US does have a bit of the ace up it's sleeve in this regard, since shipping all those foodstuffs abroad becomes cost prohibitive people here will still have "somewhat" cheap grains/food as opposed to stuffing it on a ship, burning a few tons of oil then distributing it. When does the rest of the world stop buying food because they poo poo US debt instruments? Can they? Or do they start trading in oil/gold? And at that time, is it too late to even worry about commodity "prices" since the dollar is toast anyway? I wonder if through the maelstrom of upheaval, history will correctly point the finger at Bernanke, his predecessors and policies as being the match that lit the fuse. One can only hope.

Hatha Sunahara
5th February 2011, 01:47 PM
Mubarak is having his Caecescu moment. Unlike Caecescu, the army hasn't turned on him, but are waiting to see what he does. He's going to try to hang on by using dirty tricks. He's already paid some poor goons to beat up the crowd, and he's ordered the police to shut down while other goons stir up trouble in expectation that the crowd will come to him for protection. http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=19371 That hasn't worked. He's going to have to leave eventually when he runs out of tricks or when the Army turns on him. Israel will no doubt provide a few tricks for him, but none of it will work.

TPTB are changing dictators. The real question is whether the people will accept the new dictator TPTB gives them. The people have no real leaders because Mubarak has killed them all. But he hasn't managed to dumb people down to the extent TPTB have done in America. So, we will see a period of disorder for a while until the people get tired of it. The other dictators in the region are strengthening their security apparatuses and bracing for the storm when it comes. The Arab world, being Muslim are far more resistant to the NWO than western countries. We are likely to see revolutions in Syria, Yemen, maybe Jordan. The Arabs, living in the darkest conditions are likely to be the first to wake up and resist the NWO takeover. Just remember, not too long ago, Egyptian TV had a long series about The Protocols of Zion. They regard the NWO as an attempt by Israel to dominate them.


Hatha

Book
5th February 2011, 01:52 PM
The other dictators in the region are strengthening their security apparatuses and bracing for the storm when it comes.



http://homelandsecurity.ky.gov/NR/rdonlyres/B87502D7-6330-49EB-BF16-7F0733BB515E/0/HomelandSecurity.jpg

Excellent analysis. Homeland Security is just militarizing our domestic police state to beat back us peasants when they raise the price of food beyond our food stamp amount. They saw this coming ten years ago and have planned for it.

Trinity
5th February 2011, 03:40 PM
I say the protests are legit. Labor worldwide is tired of working on the cheap. I expect wages to start rising in all emerging countries and if not you can expect uprisings like this in other countries. Paper currencies have been diluted verses the basic resources of the world, commodities figured it out first and now people who do basic labor are figuring it out.

Bullion_Bob
5th February 2011, 07:31 PM
Egypt is Just the Beginning for Gold’s Next Move

http://www.24hgold.com/english/news-gold-silver-egypt-is-just-the-beginning-for-gold-s-next-move.aspx?article=3331737320G10020&redirect=false&contributor=James+West

"Watching CNN, its easy to be lulled into the sense that the cute little third world African country that is home to Cleopatra, mummies and pyramids is having a little revolution to get rid of a tired old tyrant. That the old goat is putting up such resistance to the national message is to be expected, and might be forgiven. Unleashing bands of paid thugs under the guise of ‘supporters’ reveals true brutality and illuminates the character of the man, Hosni Mubarak – a sociopath.

This phenomenon, originated in Tunisia, a nation of 10 million, and now raging in Egypt, of 85 million has spread to Yemen, population 25 million and Jordan, population 6 million is no mere regional political shift: this is the beginning of America’s loss of control over the region.

That the democratic process even got a foothold in the tribal and historically despotically governed middle east is due to a series of historical power plays, and not so much to a nascent and organic inclination towards the idea of democracy. When oil emerged to become the most strategic substance on earth after the second world war, the United States, armed with the economic windfall from the war machine, set about toppling governments and seeding insurrection through the offices of the C.I.A., bolstering governments that were ‘incentivized’ to protect U.S. interests, and destroying those that were not.

Back then, before the light-sped connected world, the C.I.A. could operate with impunity, given the backwards communications systems in those days, and the relative lack of education of their targets.

It is unlikely Mubarak would have lasted as long as he did without overt U.S. support, and tacit Israeli support. Egypt and Saudi Arabia have been the two moderating influences in the volatile regional mindset that inclines naturally towards the harsh brand of Islamic orthodoxy that characterizes the rest of the region. There is deep resentment against the U.S. hegemonic strategy that has determined the current Middle East order.

That resentment, now finding expression in a unified regional protest, is transforming itself into a force of self-determination, and the Muslim brotherhood and Al Qaeda are most likely to recognize and capitalize on that force.

The implications for the United States, Saudi Arabia and Israel are seismic. This brand of revolution, that starts peacefully and ends up violent, is the archetypal early stage of total regional reorganization. This could be the first stage of an elevated conflict that would see a war ignite between Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Islamic region, where the outcome would be a dramatic rise in Islamic fundamentalism, as the Saudis would be accurately portrayed as the puppet of the decadent and imperialistic West and Egypt would fall to the Muslim Brotherhood, already the largest political opposition group in Egypt.

Algeria, Syria, Morocco, and other North African countries will begin to feel incrementally emboldened, and in theory, it mightn’t be long before new strategic alliances with Russia and China tipped the balance of power towards and Islamist brand of socialism. China especially would welcome its chance to strengthen the financial dependency it already receives from the United States with a military dependency as well.

How many more active theatres of war can the U.S. afford to fight, considering its $14.3 trillion debt and feeble economy?

Obama has been upstaged by Egypt at exactly the moment when the plan was supposed to be to focus on the employment picture while shilling for the economic recovery. To find the dictatorship that has long been subsidized by successive White House administrations crumbling and sending oil and gold prices higher completely derails the script. Despite the White House and Hilary Clinton’s feckless distancing from their long time ally (urging a ‘peaceful transition to democracy’), the historic relationship and its bearing on the rise and staying power of the Mubarek regime will be amplified in the weeks to come. The outcome will be the widespread perception, both internationally and domestically, that the U.S. has been up to its old tricks and can’t be trusted.

Though the issues play as superficially unrelated in the cooperative press, they are not. It is domestic grievances that ignited North Africa, it is domestic grievances that dog the Obama administration and the U.S. Federal Reserve. While the crushing poverty that plagues Egypt is only marginally present in the United States, the widespread deterioration in the standard of living that has affected the majority of Americans since 2008 is a substantial ratio of the population.

Like the collapse of the U.S. dollar now underway, the collapse of American influence in the Middle East is underway, and both are slow, long-drawn processes slowed by intermittent attempts, in both cases, to deter the inevitable.

Right now, its an all out effort to portray the Egyptian revolution as an Egyptian problem contained within that countries borders, with only look-alike conflagrations surrounding it. Just as there is an all-out effort to downplay the profound implications of the U.S. out of control debt and once again prematurely achieved borrowing limit.

Gold is, as is its historical habit, starting to throw off the cumbersome shackles of futures market derived negative price influence, and reasserting its role as the only trustworthy barometer of both political stability and monetary integrity. Since both of those are now in advanced stages of disability, there is renewed impetus behind gold demand now that is probably stronger than at any point in its ten year bull market rise.

There are more U.S. dollars, less U.S. GDP, less security in the Middle East, less security in Iran, no security still in Afghanistan, diminishing security and stability in Pakistan.

Japanese debt has been downgraded, and U.S. debt is threatened. The jobs data and consumer spending data coming out of the United States are weak and insubstantial, and bank failures continue apace. GDP growth was negative in the U.K, there is 25% unemployment in Spain, and without China’s intervention, the debt auctions of both Portugal and Spain would have been utter failures.

Commodity prices are ratcheting upward, and the price of gasoline remains at all time highs.

If that isn’t gold price positive, I don’t know what is."

Ponce
5th February 2011, 08:25 PM
There is a difference between a civil war, a revolution and a regular war......I have seen and been at five revolutions, two civil wars and one war........here in the states there will be a civil war because to many think that they have the answer to our problems, those thinking that are the problem........another place where there should be a civil war is in Rhosesia.