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chad
6th February 2011, 05:34 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/02/06/nasa-releases-degree-view-entire-sun/

hmm. seems odd. you'd think that would be much more doable.

sirgonzo420
6th February 2011, 05:53 PM
yeah, but then everybody would know about the secret nazi base on the dark side of the moon

chad
6th February 2011, 05:55 PM
yep.

madfranks
6th February 2011, 06:26 PM
Yeah I've always believed that there are things on the far side of the moon we're not supposed to see...

Heimdhal
6th February 2011, 06:38 PM
Well, we rotate 360 degrees around the sun every year.


The moon rotates around us....... and at about 1/30th the speed so we never see its other side.

chad
7th February 2011, 05:29 AM
Well, we rotate 360 degrees around the sun every year.


The moon rotates around us....... and at about 1/30th the speed so we never see its other side.


i would think before they tried to the sun they could do the moon for us. odd that we never really see the full view of the other side. only bits of photos here and there, never the whole thing.

Awoke
7th February 2011, 05:54 AM
WOW! It looks like a big ball of fire, no matter which angle you look at it from!

;)

SLV^GLD
7th February 2011, 06:30 AM
You guys have not been paying attention. China launched a probe to map the moon in 2006. Seems it was complete in 2010 and a new probe was being sent to get even more detail. China intends to land on the moon and the mapping was a first step in that mission.

http://www.physorg.com/news173421923.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39438559/ns/technology_and_science-space/

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441775/pg1

http://paviavio.wordpress.com/2010/10/08/china-will-make-full-moon-image-maps-available-in-print-only/

The US did much the same earlier with LRO (less detail):
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/index.html

sirgonzo420
7th February 2011, 06:34 AM
You guys have not been paying attention. China launched a probe to map the moon in 2006. Seems it was complete in 2010 and a new probe was being sent to get even more detail. China intends to land on the moon and the mapping was a first step in that mission.

http://www.physorg.com/news173421923.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39438559/ns/technology_and_science-space/

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441775/pg1

http://paviavio.wordpress.com/2010/10/08/china-will-make-full-moon-image-maps-available-in-print-only/


If their "moon mission" is anything like their "air force training", they'll probably just use old hollywood footage of space movies.

;D

chad
7th February 2011, 06:35 AM
pics or it didn't happen. ;D

Silver Rocket Bitches!
7th February 2011, 06:46 AM
I remember this pic from a few years back.

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap981008.html

Not that NASA has the utmost credibility.. :D

sirgonzo420
7th February 2011, 06:54 AM
I remember this pic from a few years back.

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap981008.html

Not that NASA has the utmost credibility.. :D


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Heimdhal
7th February 2011, 07:19 AM
Well, we rotate 360 degrees around the sun every year.


The moon rotates around us....... and at about 1/30th the speed so we never see its other side.


i would think before they tried to the sun they could do the moon for us. odd that we never really see the full view of the other side. only bits of photos here and there, never the whole thing.


Thats what Im saying though. We can see 360 degrees of the sun from earth, or even from a satalite in geo-sync orbit over it. To see 360 degrees of the moon, we'd have to send a probe/satalite out to the moon, then all the way around it a couple times, which as others are saying the chinese have apparently done.



What is the MOST surprising is that we still know more about our moon and sun than we do the deepest parts of our own terrestrial oceans. Must be Nazi bases as the bottom of the Marianas Trench.

Santa
7th February 2011, 07:38 AM
I remember this pic from a few years back.

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap981008.html

Not that NASA has the utmost credibility.. :D


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Or maybe... :o

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midnight rambler
7th February 2011, 07:49 AM
I remember this pic from a few years back.

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap981008.html

Not that NASA has the utmost credibility.. :D


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Awoke
8th February 2011, 07:51 AM
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Marv
8th February 2011, 08:47 AM
I think what the article linked in the OP fails to explain, or at least explain well, is that it's a 360 degree view AT THE SAME TIME.

Yes, we've presumably been able to view the Sun all the way around over the course of each year since the beginning of time. But, the Sun, being a ball of plasma, is in constant flux.

The whole thing about viewing it all at once is of little consequence to most of us, myself included, but I'd imagine astronomers and climate change loonies are pretty excited. Oh look, it's hot on the other side too! Must be our fault.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
8th February 2011, 10:47 AM
This thread may interest you:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/lunar-orbiter-four-and-the-far-side-of-the-moon/


Lunar Orbiter Four has seen the back of the moon.

Serpo
8th February 2011, 12:17 PM
Pretty obvious when they take pictures all over the sun and not the moon that something fishy is going on with the moon.

Marv
8th February 2011, 01:16 PM
Pretty obvious when they take pictures all over the sun and not the moon that something fishy is going on with the moon.


The only thing that's obvious to me is that the dark side of the moon is just that, dark. Kinda' hard to get a giant flash cube into space. Seriously, though, it would be nearly impossible to photograph the moon from two different sides simultaneously like this article talks about with the Sun.

That, and it really has no particular bearing on the earth beyond known gravitational effects of the moon in general, other than plain ol' curiosity. The Sun's activity is another story, and something that I'd imagine is not yet fully understood.

We've studied the moon. Orbited it. Landed on it. There's certainly more to be learned there, but it is not as compelling as having an active Yellow Dwarf in our backyard.

Marv
8th February 2011, 03:03 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_side_of_the_Moon

On October 7, 1959 the Soviet probe, Luna 3, took the first photographs of the lunar far side, eighteen of them being resolvable ones covering one-third of the surface invisible from the Earth...

On July 20, 1965 another Soviet probe Zond 3 transmitted 25 pictures of very good quality of the lunar far side, with much better resolution than those from Luna 3...

It has been seen by all crew members of the Apollo 8 and Apollo 10 through Apollo 17 missions since that time, and photographed by multiple lunar probes...

mick silver
8th February 2011, 04:30 PM
they just dont want us to see all the moon people who live there

TheNocturnalEgyptian
8th February 2011, 05:11 PM
There, that's what the far side of the moon looks like.

I am not even joking.

http://images.astronet.ru/pubd/2002/11/25/0001181034/mareOrientale_lunarOrbiter4_full.jpg


Mare Orientale Lunar Oribter 4

Awoke
9th February 2011, 03:50 AM
Pretty obvious when they take pictures all over the sun and not the moon that something fishy is going on with the moon.


The only thing that's obvious to me is that the dark side of the moon is just that, dark. Kinda' hard to get a giant flash cube into space. Seriously, though, it would be nearly impossible to photograph the moon from two different sides simultaneously like this article talks about with the Sun.


The Moon orbits the earth roughly every 27 days, so the dark side of the moon faces the sun directly quite frequently.
If they have satelittes orbiting the moon, there is no reason they can't get detailed photos of the "dark side" of the moon, is there?

chad
9th February 2011, 04:32 AM
Pretty obvious when they take pictures all over the sun and not the moon that something fishy is going on with the moon.


The only thing that's obvious to me is that the dark side of the moon is just that, dark. Kinda' hard to get a giant flash cube into space. Seriously, though, it would be nearly impossible to photograph the moon from two different sides simultaneously like this article talks about with the Sun.


The Moon orbits the earth roughly every 27 days, so the dark side of the moon faces the sun directly quite frequently.
If they have satelittes orbiting the moon, there is no reason they can't get detailed photos of the "dark side" of the moon, is there?


exactly. they show a photo here and there, but nothing in real time, which should be obviously easy for them. "so and so in 1982 took a picture here it is" strikes me as a s cop out. if they've really been up there that many times, have that great of technology, etc. you should be able to que up the moon channel if you want to.

Marv
9th February 2011, 11:06 AM
If they have satelittes orbiting the moon, there is no reason they can't get detailed photos of the "dark side" of the moon, is there?


No reason whatsoever. They can and have.

Awoke
9th February 2011, 11:17 AM
If they have satelittes orbiting the moon, there is no reason they can't get detailed photos of the "dark side" of the moon, is there?


No reason whatsoever. They can and have.



Is that where you got your avatar?

;D

Marv
9th February 2011, 01:21 PM
Is that where you got your avatar?

;D


LOL.... Yep... High-Tech, ain't it?

mightymanx
9th February 2011, 01:30 PM
All these pictures and not a one showing the left behind lunar buggy or LEM carcases. We can read a licence plate from orbit but we can't find "our" landing site.

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