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uncletonoose
9th February 2011, 01:30 PM
Here's another thing we can hoard like TP if it doesn't get repealed.


A limited-government group says it's ratcheting up its grass-roots efforts this week to repeal the phaseout of incandescent light bulbs slated to begin next year.

Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, and 20 other GOP House members, including Texan Ron Paul, have already proposed a bill to repeal the phaseout. Other proposals are expected this month by Sen. Mike Enzi, R-Wyo., and Rep. Michael Burgess, R-Texas, according to Freedom Acton, a Web-based group founded in 2009 by political activists at the Center for Competitive Enterprise.

"The light bulb ban is an outrageous government limitation on consumer choice and intrusion into the home of every American," Myron Ebell, the group's director said in a statement. "There is overwhelming public support that spans the political spectrum for repealing the ban on incandescent light bulbs."

Slightly more Americans, 32%, say they approve of the phaseout than those, 29%, who disapprove of it, according to a phone survey of 309 U.S. adults taken in December by KRC Research for Osram Sylvania, a lighting company. Most, 60%, say they plan to switch to more efficient lighting, but 13% say they plan to stockpile 100-watt incandescents so they can keep using them.

A USA TODAY story this week reports that some consumers are starting to hoard incandescents because they're dissatisfied with the light quality of more efficient compact fluorescent lamps or CFLs. Manufacturers will no longer be able to make the 100-watt Thomas Edison bulb after Jan. 1, 2012, followed by the 75-watt version in Jan. 2013 and the the 60- and 40-watt bulbs in Jan. 2014.

Congress mandated the phaseout in a 2007 bill signed into law by President George W. Bush. Chief sponsors were Reps. Jane Harman, D-Calif., and Fred Upton, R-Mich., who now chairs the House Energy and Commerce Committee. Upton has said his panel will hold a hearing on the phaseout.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/greenhouse/post/2011/02/repeal-ban-incandescent-light-bulbs/1

Serpo
9th February 2011, 02:05 PM
But isnt the mercury good for us in these new bulbs....

Panoptimist
9th February 2011, 02:06 PM
There's no stopping the oncoming storm.

po14015
9th February 2011, 02:32 PM
Just one mercury bulb breaks in your house, and your house is a hazardous waste site.

No one should ever buy them.

Libertytree
9th February 2011, 02:41 PM
Just one mercury bulb breaks in your house, and your house is a hazardous waste site.

No one should ever buy them.


Ain't it kinda odd that those bulbs have been around forever and surely millions of them have broken but you've never heard about all those mass deaths? Gimme a break! This is all BS that helps out the Corp American regime.

uncletonoose
9th February 2011, 02:43 PM
Once the law goes into effect, and everyone has them, just watch for the price to go sky high.

Serpo
9th February 2011, 04:17 PM
Just one mercury bulb breaks in your house, and your house is a hazardous waste site.

No one should ever buy them.


Ain't it kinda odd that those bulbs have been around forever and surely millions of them have broken but you've never heard about all those mass deaths? Gimme a break! This is all BS that helps out the Corp American regime.


Talking about the new fluro ones and not the incandescents........

Serpo
9th February 2011, 04:18 PM
Once the law goes into effect, and everyone has them, just watch for the price to go sky high.


Swatted that bug Uncle but he is a tough little critter.......

Cobalt
9th February 2011, 05:16 PM
One thing I hate about the CFL's is they don't even come close to lasting the hours claimed in the box and that isn't even considering the greatly reduced light they produce after several months.

Put a new CFL next to one that has been used several months and the older one is about 40% as bright, never had that problem with the old incandescent style

madfranks
9th February 2011, 05:17 PM
Just one mercury bulb breaks in your house, and your house is a hazardous waste site.

No one should ever buy them.


Exactly. Everyone I talk to about mercury-fluorescent bulbs doesn't even know they're toxic if they break. When broken, most people just pick them up and throw them in the trash, even though the EPA has published guidelines (http://www.epa.gov/cfl/cflcleanup-detailed.html) on what to do if you break one, including evacuating the home, throwing away any clothing or shoes that have touched the broken bulb, and sealing the debris in a glass jar until you can get it to a safe disposal center.

EDIT: They used to tell you to throw away your clothing and shoes if touched to the debris, but apparently they don't advise that anymore per the linked guidelines...

Libertytree
9th February 2011, 08:43 PM
Is this kinda like needing to wear a helmet to ride a bicycle?

We are talking about the same type of light bulbs..right? I'm talking about the regular screw in type of bulbs. Are yaw'll talking about the long tubular ones?

skid
9th February 2011, 08:48 PM
I've already got a good stock of them put away, but will buy enough to last far into the future. I use the compact flourescents too, but each have their advantages.

Serpo
9th February 2011, 08:52 PM
Have over half my house running on LED lights and will try and complete the job someday....

madfranks
10th February 2011, 07:35 AM
Is this kinda like needing to wear a helmet to ride a bicycle?

We are talking about the same type of light bulbs..right? I'm talking about the regular screw in type of bulbs. Are yaw'll talking about the long tubular ones?


http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQa7t7vffpBNcxW55GF9T7LlpvJe24Z4-MQ_bs4PwmtUP49ZFbQYA

The one on the left is made of glass and metal filament; if it breaks you have broken glass on the floor. The one on the right has mercury in the form of vapors and powder lining the inside of the glass, and when it breaks the mercury can easily be inhaled. That's why the EPA says if you break one you need to evacuate the house, open all the windows and wait several hours before you come back.

goldleaf
10th February 2011, 08:00 AM
We've been stocking up on incandescent bulbs too. The curly que ones take half a day to brighten up
outside when its cold out. If you use dimmers instead of regular switches there is less startup shock to an
incandescent and will extend the life of the bulb.