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cpy911
15th February 2011, 09:44 AM
All,
I would appreciate your wisdom and advise. I am signing up my son (6) for T-ball in a town private league. They have the standard application and also want a copy of the child's birth certificate. Is this a reasonable request? I have a call in to them now and waiting for a response on WHY? Is this a wise thing to give out? Any security issues here?
Thanks,
cpy911

chad
15th February 2011, 09:49 AM
they want to make sure that you're not putting a 12 year old in playing with 9 year olds. i guess you have to weigh how important letting your son play sports is.

midnight rambler
15th February 2011, 09:51 AM
All,
I would appreciate your wisdom and advise. I am signing up my son (6) for T-ball in a town private league. They have the standard application and also want a copy of the child's birth certificate. Is this a reasonable request? I have a call in to them now and waiting for a response on WHY? Is this a wise thing to give out? Any security issues here?
Thanks,
cpy911


Yeah, I'd be wanting to know why.

I would submit an affidavit providing any info they seek, nothing trumps an affidavit except perhaps another affidavit. Unfortunately any private organization can make up whatever silly ass rules they want and then say, "well, that's our policy."

General of Darkness
15th February 2011, 09:51 AM
I don't think it's a conspiracy, the reason they're asking for the birth certificate is because they have to validate your sons' age. You have NO idea how people will cheat at anything, i.e. shove a 8 year into t-ball to win games.

cthulu
15th February 2011, 09:58 AM
Do not do it! They implementing the 14 amendment which makes us all default slaves of the state. Don't you know a bc surrenders all rights you have of your child and gives them to he state? Next hint you know CPs will take your kid away from you!

cpy911
15th February 2011, 09:58 AM
Ahh, I see loud and clear about the validation of age...that makes perfect sense. Might be OK. It does not have SS# on it.

I thought it was to keep illegals out of the league????

Cobalt
15th February 2011, 10:18 AM
Ahh, I see loud and clear about the validation of age...that makes perfect sense. Might be OK. It does not have SS# on it.

I thought it was to keep illegals out of the league????



A birth certificate doesn't prove citizenship, it just shows when and where you were born.

k-os
15th February 2011, 10:32 AM
I think I would bring the birth certificate, and show it to them, but not let them have it.

undgrd
15th February 2011, 10:34 AM
Ahh, I see loud and clear about the validation of age...that makes perfect sense. Might be OK. It does not have SS# on it.

I thought it was to keep illegals out of the league????



A birth certificate doesn't prove citizenship, it just shows when and where you were born.


If it shows where and when you where born, that could establish citizenship.

General of Darkness
15th February 2011, 10:36 AM
Ahh, I see loud and clear about the validation of age...that makes perfect sense. Might be OK. It does not have SS# on it.

I thought it was to keep illegals out of the league????



A birth certificate doesn't prove citizenship, it just shows when and where you were born.


Well in Amerikwa, any worthless parasite can poop out a baby, and if it's on Amerikwan soil, it's a kwan. So when and where in the kwa means your Amerikwan.

onceseen
15th February 2011, 11:19 AM
One of the saddest recent development in America is the youth sports movement. At some point the bad guys decided that kids shouldn't be allowed to play together on their own, because anytime that kids get away from adult regimented tight supervision it violates their sacrosanct control meme. You never see kids playing outside anymore without adult supervision. Sad.
Sorry, a little OT.

dys

General of Darkness
15th February 2011, 03:10 PM
One of the saddest recent development in America is the youth sports movement. At some point the bad guys decided that kids shouldn't be allowed to play together on their own, because anytime that kids get away from adult regimented tight supervision it violates their sacrosanct control meme. You never see kids playing outside anymore without adult supervision. Sad.
Sorry, a little OT.

dys


I remember my time growing up as a kid in communist Yugoslavia and Pasadena, CA. Man this brings back memories.

Somethings that happened in both places

1 - If I ever opened my mouth against an adult, I got smacked
2 - I never was allowed to associate with gypsies, here in the U.S. we'll call them blacks
3 - When I talked about capitalism at 13 in Yugoslavia, the cops showed up the next day

I DO NOT HAVE KIDS, but if I did. I would hope to GOD that where I lived folks would help me raise them. Or I'd say, watch them. Kid gets out of line, SMACK.

chad
15th February 2011, 03:19 PM
One of the saddest recent development in America is the youth sports movement. At some point the bad guys decided that kids shouldn't be allowed to play together on their own, because anytime that kids get away from adult regimented tight supervision it violates their sacrosanct control meme. You never see kids playing outside anymore without adult supervision. Sad.
Sorry, a little OT.

dys


I remember my time growing up as a kid in communist Yugoslavia and Pasadena, CA. Man this brings back memories.

Somethings that happened in both places

1 - If I ever opened my mouth against an adult, I got smacked
2 - I never was allowed to associate with gypsies, here in the U.S. we'll call them blacks
3 - When I talked about capitalism at 13 in Yugoslavia, the cops showed up the next day

I DO NOT HAVE KIDS, but if I did. I would hope to GOD that where I lived folks would help me raise them. Or I'd say, watch them. Kid gets out of line, SMACK.



i live on a 10 acre farm. the people on the 10 acres next door have 2 kids, the people on the 10 acre section next to to them have 2 kids well. i also have 2 kids. we all treat the pack as one unit as they are roaming around the 30 acres. everyone's parent is your parent. works out really well, especially with the people next door who are HARD ASSES.

Cebu_4_2
15th February 2011, 03:52 PM
Bring a copy for them to validate from, but if they want to keep it tell them that is all you have right now so they do not have possession of your sons personal documents.

mightymanx
15th February 2011, 03:53 PM
I think I would bring the birth certificate, and show it to them, but not let them have it.


^^^^^^^^^^^^What she said.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

JohnQPublic
15th February 2011, 04:04 PM
All,
I would appreciate your wisdom and advise. I am signing up my son (6) for T-ball in a town private league. They have the standard application and also want a copy of the child's birth certificate. Is this a reasonable request? I have a call in to them now and waiting for a response on WHY? Is this a wise thing to give out? Any security issues here?
Thanks,
cpy911


Don't try passing off a certification of live birth on them. They won't take it for something as important as T-ball. It's got to be a long form birth certificate. :D

BabushkaLady
15th February 2011, 04:06 PM
As others have mentioned; Show it but do Not submit a copy. They can view it, verify and sign off on the fact that they saw it.

Your son might want to run for President someday. No sense in leaving copies around!

JDRock
15th February 2011, 04:16 PM
maybe/hopefully theyre trying to keep the illegals from joining....were sick of our 15 year olds competing against their 20 year olds "' essokay, heez fefteeen" :oo-->

freespirit
15th February 2011, 06:13 PM
most likely it's to satisfy some insurance companies red tape requirements.

ximmy
15th February 2011, 06:17 PM
I think you should let your son enjoy his childhood...

kregener
15th February 2011, 06:20 PM
Skip T-ball. It is "touchy-feely" shit were everybody wins and gets a trophy.

Wait until he is old enough to play BASEBALL.

Low_five
15th February 2011, 07:02 PM
Whoever holds the birth certificate owns the child. this is a scam to try to gain custody of the child. What happens is, you transfer the child to the Nigerian scammer, under the promise that he will credit your account with 15 kids, and you may see the kids in your bank account, but there will be a chargeback issued and the kids will be taken from your account and the Nigerian will dissapear with your original kid.

uncletonoose
15th February 2011, 07:05 PM
Whoever holds the birth certificate owns the child. this is a scam to try to gain custody of the child. What happens is, you transfer the child to the Nigerian scammer, under the promise that he will credit your account with 15 kids, and you may see the kids in your bank account, but there will be a chargeback issued and the kids will be taken from your account and the Nigerian will dissapear with your original kid.


:dunno :whistle

SilverTop
15th February 2011, 08:27 PM
He can be president without one but can't play T-ball? :conf:

What a country!

Serpo
15th February 2011, 11:54 PM
Yes Obama had this same problem :ROFL:

Serpo
15th February 2011, 11:55 PM
He can be president without one but can't play T-ball? :conf:

What a country!


You dont know how funny that is.......hahaha

lapis
16th February 2011, 12:00 AM
This is what I just LOVE about GSUS posts. Pretty much any thread can turn into a hilarious laugh-fest. Or I'm just easily amused? *chuckling away* ;D

po boy
16th February 2011, 01:05 PM
Ever wonder why we need birth certificate or why Obama doesn't have one?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=47jqtTMkZWc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47jqtTMkZWc)

Spectrism
16th February 2011, 01:59 PM
Tell them that the state of Hawaii won't let you have his birth certificate because it is sealed or something. If they say that your son cannot play without it, tell them that the BC is not evidence and not required by precedent of the POTUS. A signed affidavit should suffice.

Ash_Williams
16th February 2011, 02:36 PM
Register a domain name and post a copy of it online.

Buddha
16th February 2011, 04:14 PM
Get your kid some boxing lessons instead.

beefsteak
17th February 2011, 02:40 AM
Solve the problem by playing ball with your son yourself. Include a couple of his friends / neighbors if they are available.

No trophies, no rules, no umpires, just family playing together.

He should be climbing SHORT trees at that age and taking things apart, or building birdhouses with grandparents, and stuffing frogs and string and interesting bugs into his pockets.

old fuddy duddy beefsteak