Lara Logan, CBS Reporter, Raped Repeatedly Amid Egypt Celebration

[PatColo]

Lara Logan, CBS Reporter and Warzone 'It Girl,' Raped Repeatedly Amid Egypt Celebration (http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2011/02/lara_logan_raped_egypt_reporte.php)

I'd hit it. But not like that.

[Serpo]

Heard that ,****** rioters celebrating , and with a white girl.....my god.....how did this happen.....any way they either report the news or in this case ...make the news....how insane are these reporters



I might have to alter my sig.........er na forget it

[Bullion_Bob]

If I were her looking as nice as she does with that full blonde head of hair, I would have at least worn a head scarf.

These were people rioting against western political meddling. Very bad timing to be a hot "western looking" blonde girl out in the middle of a chaotic riot going against any/all western intervention.

Under normal circumstances, no problem. In the middle of an enraged mob being attacked & provoked?

Yikes.

[Serpo]

If I were her looking as nice as she does with that full blonde head of hair, I would have at least worn a head scarf.

These were people rioting against western political meddling. Very bad timing to be a hot "western looking" blonde girl out in the middle of a chaotic riot going against any/all western intervention.

Under normal circumstances, no problem. In the middle of an enraged mob being attacked & provoked?

Yikes.


Good point how brainless are these people

[Bullion_Bob]

If I were her looking as nice as she does with that full blonde head of hair, I would have at least worn a head scarf.

These were people rioting against western political meddling. Very bad timing to be a hot "western looking" blonde girl out in the middle of a chaotic riot going against any/all western intervention.

Under normal circumstances, no problem. In the middle of an enraged mob being attacked & provoked?

Yikes.


Good point how brainless are these people


Interesting part is the media will try to pin it on Egypt/Radical ME, but it could happen anywhere in the world under those circumstances.

An entire country on fire with rage looking for an outlet...strange shit happens when you're the odd one in the crowd, and part of the perceived "problem" so to speak.

She's lucky she wasn't killed.

[PatColo]

An entire country on fire with rage looking for an outlet...strange shit happens when you're the odd one in the crowd, and part of the perceived "problem" so to speak.



Anderson Cooper's prolly screeching, "but I was punched! I was punched in the FACE!!" :-\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBNXYu1xOqk&feature=player_embedded

[ximmy]

A person takes a risk when they decide to place themself in a potentially dangerous situation... If necessary, then precautions should be considered... dress, demeanor, associations, etc.

I wonder if she has used her good looks to win favorable positions in her trade... If so, was she in that mindset and forgot basic precautions... I wonder...

[Mouse]

I am guessing she wasn't carrying that day. It's a terrible crime (if true), but it does give us some instruction on how to look and behave in mobs. I for one, will not be the hot blonde rich looking chick. Dress (down) for success. I will be the poorly dressed haggard middle-aged poor looking dude.

[k-os]

If I were her looking as nice as she does with that full blonde head of hair, I would have at least worn a head scarf.

These were people rioting against western political meddling. Very bad timing to be a hot "western looking" blonde girl out in the middle of a chaotic riot going against any/all western intervention.

Under normal circumstances, no problem. In the middle of an enraged mob being attacked & provoked?

Yikes.


That poor woman. I can't imagine life after an experience like that. Trying not to be too dramatic, but this is the truth - I would just want to end it all.

I would like to think I would not have put myself into that type of danger, but according to friends and acquaintances of mine, I should not travel the way I do (and have in the past) because of similar fears. Should I fear all men everywhere? If so, what does that say about YOU?

Where is the line drawn? Is it certain countries we are not supposed to visit? Are only "ugly" women allowed to be in a group of men? Who decides who is ugly enough to be in the company of men? Is it her blonde hair? Should we all dye our hair darker? How long should our skirts be before we are not blamed for being raped? Are we allowed to show our ankles? Seriously, wtf?

Sorry, but you touched a nerve.

[Libertytree]

Bottom line is that she fucked up and she knows it, and paid dearly for it, but no one held a gun to her head and forced her into it. Now, instead of reporting the story she is a part of the story, epic journalism fail. I hate to hear about that happening to anyone but stupidity just plain got the best of her dumbass.

[Mouse]

K-os brings up some very good points. I don't usually worry too much about opportunistic crime, and I have a lot of guns. I don't carry all the time like I should, but there is usually one somewhere close by. The bottom line is that if you want to be safe you shouldn't trust anyone or any situation, especially if you are an attractive woman.

So, that aside, please feel free to fly about the country!

Your number is on a card somewhere. You can't let fear rule your life but situational awareness and avoiding obvious mob scenes goes a long way towards self-preservation. For everything else there is CCW.

edited to add: her security detail should be fired immediately, if they even had one.

[Silver Shield]

When the dollar collapses you will see much more crime of all sorts. As people's worlds are destroyed and social contracts are destroyed and people learn the true meaning of counter party risk society will degenerate.

Kos you should not fear in a functioning society.

I admire your fire and willingness to live life but when things turn either whip out the burqua, dress Walmart zombie, or pack heat.

I remember you had a man that did not like guns, did you find one with guns?

[Silver Shield]

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/files/2011/02/0626logan.jpg
Honestly WTF is a girl like this doing in a Muslim riot supposedly against the west?!

[Silver Shield]

Christana Amanpour is safe...
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VCkg6Ea1Kko/TKnrOdtWDxI/AAAAAAAAKtQ/u5FUeTpeT9w/s1600/amanpour.jpg

[Serpo]

Christana Amanpour is safe...
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VCkg6Ea1Kko/TKnrOdtWDxI/AAAAAAAAKtQ/u5FUeTpeT9w/s1600/amanpour.jpg


Well hahaha

[BillBoard]

I think she may have taken for granted the great risk and danger her job entails.

I really have no idea how a woman may recover from an attack like that. It also shows how vulnerable women are in such chaos when surrounded by men whom are devoid of dignity.

And you want to know something very tragic?

As attractive as she may be, after such attack, no man would want her for a wife.

[undgrd]

Unless I was carrying, I would NOT go into a place like that even if there wasn't a revolution going on.

[Large Sarge]

I am not saying things like this do not happen, but do we have any actual proof?

and of course I feel horrible for her if it did happen.....

but all I see is hearsay evidence

and of course this benefits the govt as it paints the "anti-govt folks" as rapists and thugs

just food for thought

[woodman]

I think she may have taken for granted the great risk and danger her job entails.

I really have no idea how a woman may recover from an attack like that. It also shows how vulnerable women are in such chaos when surrounded by men whom are devoid of dignity.

And you want to know something very tragic?

As attractive as she may be, after such attack, no man would want her for a wife.


In the same post you make both an excellent observation and a poorly thought out statement.

"men who are devoid of dignity." This expresses very well the mental state of these animals. Dignity would not allow a man to treat another person in such a way.

"after such an attack, no man would want her for a wife." This is ridiculous. Aside from the possibility of stds, she is still attractive and depending on who she is inside, she may make a fine companion. If she has the proper mindset, she will eventually learn to live with a shattering experience.

[Book]

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[Horn]

She was surrounded and suffered a brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating before being saved by a group of women and an estimated 20 Egyptian soldiers.

At least a small platoon was available to break things up...

[Book]

"men who are devoid of dignity." This expresses very well the mental state of these animals.



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[Book]

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[mightymanx]

I have mixed feelings on the subject. What happened to her is horrible and probably one of the worst crimes that can happen to someone where they live after the event, which is a torture in and upon it's self.

The second thing American people have extreme complacency and arrogance when going to other countries the US law does not protect you abroad and flaunting your western style and mannerisms most often creates resentment toward the "Ugly American" combined this to the invincibility syndrome that the camera causes, and put it into a situation where people have nothing to lose and their society has very little respect for women in the first place. You get what happened Operational security is paramount that is not the same as living in fear.

For example when I drive my racecar I wear a helmet fire suit and have a roll cage am I afraid I am going to crash? No but these are the reasonable precautions for the activity I am doing. If I am in a war zone I wear battle rattle (body armor survival kit) If I am in the desert I take extra water.

If I was a female reporter in a country that is currently with out rule of law and has little respect for females on a the best of days. I would beef up my security and dress and act conservatively while keeping my head on a swivel.
This is not to be confused with she deserved it. I think that though that one of the root causes was american complacency when traveling abroad. I think it was Max Kaiser sait when people have nothing to lose they lose it. that has been true we in the States generaly don't have to worry about that Yet.

[Large Sarge]

I have always heard rape referred to as a crime of violence (physical assault), not a crime of passion/sex

200 guys around, being gang raped, etc

and she walks away from it.

does this story add up?

Can someone show me some more evidence that it happened?

When I was younger I got jumped/attacked by a gang, perhaps 20-25 guys, I had plenty of "evidence" of the attack.

I want some more evidence

I know a crowd will act in a weird violent way, but really, how does this lady survive, she probably weighs 120 lbs soaking wet, and rape is a form of violence, 200 guys around, being gang raped, etc all it takes is one bad blow to the head and you are dead...

I need some more proof,

this could be another false flag to court public opinion

"the poor white girl was gang raped by the darkies over there"

[mrnhtbr2232]

Seriously, I would have thought growing up in South Africa would have given this woman a keen sense of situational awareness.

[Cebu_4_2]

I have always heard rape referred to as a crime of violence (physical assault), not a crime of passion/sex

200 guys around, being gang raped, etc

and she walks away from it.

does this story add up?

Can someone show me some more evidence that it happened?

When I was younger I got jumped/attacked by a gang, perhaps 20-25 guys, I had plenty of "evidence" of the attack.

I want some more evidence

I know a crowd will act in a weird violent way, but really, how does this lady survive, she probably weighs 120 lbs soaking wet, and rape is a form of violence, 200 guys around, being gang raped, etc all it takes is one bad blow to the head and you are dead...

I need some more proof,

this could be another false flag to court public opinion

"the poor white girl was gang raped by the darkies over there"




Agreed, not a single picture showing any physical attack.

[sirgonzo420]

Oh come on guys; women never lie about being raped!





(either way, whether she was raped or not it's horrible - either because she was in a country where she didn't belong and was raped for it, or because she's a liar)

[BrewTech]

I'm not buying it at this point. Israel has a massive PR campaign to win, and this is likely the opening act. Getting Americans to hate the brown people again ASAP is key.

[Libertytree]

It's not just that she is a woman but that she's an American, an American in a riot zone that is directing 30 years of anger at anything and everything that is perceived to be in connection with the tyrannical regime responsible. Any westerner, male or female, was taking a HUGE risk putting themselves in that situation.

Taking a different tact on this......Let's not forget that some pretty drastic and evil things can be done to men as well and let's say that it was an American male who was abducted and assaulted, sexually or otherwise. How differently would this matter be viewed and discussed? Violence is violence no matter the gender. Would the man even divulge the fact that he had been sodomized repeatedly? Would it even be reported on by the media?

[onceseen]

Bottom line is that she fucked up and she knows it, and paid dearly for it, but no one held a gun to her head and forced her into it. Now, instead of reporting the story she is a part of the story, epic journalism fail. I hate to hear about that happening to anyone but stupidity just plain got the best of her dumbass.


Bullshit. She did absolutely NOTHING wrong, the people in the wrong were those sick subhumans that raped her. I'm so tired of people blaming victims for getting victimized. I'm going to propose a radical philosophy: people in this world are 100% responsible for what they actually do (not what they might do, keep that in mind), and 0% responsible for what others do. The rapists did it, they and they alone own it, not this poor woman.
Sorry to be so harsh, Lib, but with all due respect, it was called for in this case.

dys

[Libertytree]

Bottom line is that she fucked up and she knows it, and paid dearly for it, but no one held a gun to her head and forced her into it. Now, instead of reporting the story she is a part of the story, epic journalism fail. I hate to hear about that happening to anyone but stupidity just plain got the best of her dumbass.


Bullshit. She did absolutely NOTHING wrong, the people in the wrong were those sick subhumans that raped her. I'm so tired of people blaming victims for getting victimized. I'm going to propose a radical philosophy: people in this world are 100% responsible for what they actually do (not what they might do, keep that in mind), and 0% responsible for what others do. The rapists did it, they and they alone own it, not this poor woman.
Sorry to be so harsh, Lib, but with all due respect, it was called for in this case.

dys


I respect that POV dys, I don't believe in blaming the victim either and I agree she did nothing wrong. At the same though it was piss poor decision making that put her in that position.

[k-os]

Taking a different tact on this......Let's not forget that some pretty drastic and evil things can be done to men as well and let's say that it was an American male who was abducted and assaulted, sexually or otherwise. How differently would this matter be viewed and discussed? Violence is violence no matter the gender. Would the man even divulge the fact that he had been sodomized repeatedly? Would it even be reported on by the media?


It has happened - to Anderson Cooper if I remember correctly. I don't remember anyone bringing up his good looks as a reason for why he was beaten.





I want so bad to use the eye roll here, but it would be like using someone elses signature.

[SilverTop]

Not defending her actions or the actions with this post. But from google news they posted the following link. Note nowhere does it say that she was raped in the CBS news released. Here is the content of the link that google linked to.

Lara Logan expected to leave hospital today
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/entertainment/post/2011/02/lara-logan-expected-to-leave-hospital-today--/1

08:45 AM

By Ann Oldenburg, USA TODAY

The Daily Beast's Howard Kurtz reports that CBS correspondent Lara Logan, who is recovering from being sexually assaulted in Egypt last week, will be released from a New York hospital today.

According to a Wall Street Journal source, Logan, 39, who is mother to two young children, was not raped.

The correspondent's separation from her TV crew and assault lasted between 20 and 30 minutes, reports the Journal, citing a person familiar with the matter. The source added that it was "not a rape."

At least 140 reporters since January 30 have been injured or killed while covering the Egypt protests, the New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists said, reports AFP. Anderson Cooper, Katie Couric and Christiane Amanpour have spoken of being surrounded and, in Cooper's case, "punched" by protesters.

The night before she was attacked, Logan spoke to The Politics blog of Esquire magazine. She was with her producer and her husband Joseph Burkett, and recounted her earlier trip that resulted in her team being taken by soldiers and marched at gunpoint to their hotel. "We were accused of being more than journalists," Logan reported. "Very frightening suggestions were being made, suggestions that could be very dangerous for us."

The following day soldiers detained her and the crew in Cairo and interrogated them overnight, then told them to leave Egypt. "We were detained by the Egyptian army," Logan told The Politics blog.

"Arrested, detained, and interrogated. Blindfolded, handcuffed, taken at gunpoint, our driver beaten. It's the regime that arrested us." She added, "They kept us in stress positions -- they wouldn't let me put my head down. It was all through the night. We were pretty exhausted."

She added, "We were accused of being Israeli spies. We were accused of being agents. We were accused of everything," she told Esquire, as she was boarding a plane to return to Egypt. But she was determined to return. A cozy desk job just isn't "in my lane," she said.

But this line sticks out big time, "We were accused of being Israeli spies". MSM, people, you never can tell just who's side anyone is on.

[k-os]

I admire your fire and willingness to live life but when things turn either whip out the burqua, dress Walmart zombie, or pack heat.

I will go Walmart zombie. I should probably buy some zombie makeup - and I am not kidding. Would you want to rape a woman that had sores all over her face/body?



I remember you had a man that did not like guns, did you find one with guns?

Having no man at all is better than having a man that hates guns. ;D I am happily single.

[k-os]

As attractive as she may be, after such attack, no man would want her for a wife.


After such an attack, she might never want a man again.

[onceseen]

Bottom line is that she fucked up and she knows it, and paid dearly for it, but no one held a gun to her head and forced her into it. Now, instead of reporting the story she is a part of the story, epic journalism fail. I hate to hear about that happening to anyone but stupidity just plain got the best of her dumbass.


Bullshit. She did absolutely NOTHING wrong, the people in the wrong were those sick subhumans that raped her. I'm so tired of people blaming victims for getting victimized. I'm going to propose a radical philosophy: people in this world are 100% responsible for what they actually do (not what they might do, keep that in mind), and 0% responsible for what others do. The rapists did it, they and they alone own it, not this poor woman.
Sorry to be so harsh, Lib, but with all due respect, it was called for in this case.

dys


I respect that POV dys, I don't believe in blaming the victim either and I agree she did nothing wrong. At the same though it was piss poor decision making that put her in that position.





I don't see it that way, amigo. I think it takes courage to put yourself into a situation like that.

dys

ps- If someone lied about being raped, whoever it was, that person is a seriously mentally deranged individual.

[Twisted Titan]

She Rolled the dice one time too many and The Piper finally showed up demanding to be paid.

Situational awarness is key

[onceseen]

As attractive as she may be, after such attack, no man would want her for a wife.

Sheer, utter, total nonsense. Half the guys on this forum would jump at the chance the chance to marry a beautiful and successful woman like her.

dys

[SilverTop]

As attractive as she may be, after such attack, no man would want her for a wife.

Sheer, utter, total nonsense. Half the guys on this forum would jump at the chance the chance to marry a beautiful and successful woman like her.

dys




Ahhhhhhh I think I have to agree with you dys.

http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/lifeline-live/2011/02/16/larax-inset-community.jpg

[po boy]

Taking a different tact on this......Let's not forget that some pretty drastic and evil things can be done to men as well and let's say that it was an American male who was abducted and assaulted, sexually or otherwise. How differently would this matter be viewed and discussed? Violence is violence no matter the gender. Would the man even divulge the fact that he had been sodomized repeatedly? Would it even be reported on by the media?


It has happened - to Anderson Cooper if I remember correctly. I don't remember anyone bringing up his good looks as a reason for why he was beaten.

What do these situations have in common both put themselves in a bad position willingly.

It doesn't excuse the violence but it show common sense isn't so common anymore.



I want so bad to use the eye roll here, but it would be like using someone elses signature.

[Libertytree]

She Rolled the dice one time too many and The Piper finally showed up demanding to be paid.

Situational awarness is key


When I was young I made a very bad decision once by not being aware of the situation I had placed myself in and it damn near cost me my life. I was very lucky though and got away with just getting the serious ass beating of a lifetime, that lesson has since served me very well.

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

What a terrible thing to happen.

It was ridiculous of the producers to send her in the middle of the Egyptian chaos.

[willie pete]

Certainly terrible but I have to wonder IF ever these female reporters ever consider something like this can happen? ...and I agree Christine Amanpour is safe :D ...good thing they didn't pull a train on Andy cooper...there again, he might've hung around after it was over and smoked a cigarette with the mob... :D :D :D

I remember the same sort of things happening in the Peace Corps Too (http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/women-raped-peace-corps-12621212)

[General of Darkness]

Muds will be muds, and they tend to rape pretty non-muslim women.

[chad]

remember this one?

http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/04/23/we-are-not-your-weapons-we-are-women/

activist lady goes to haiti, gets raped by a black guy, blames white culture and feels thankful for the experience to "waking her up" of the white man's oppression of blacks.

[Sparky]

If I were her looking as nice as she does with that full blonde head of hair, I would have at least worn a head scarf.
...


How do you know she wasn't?

[Awoke]

And you want to know something very tragic?

As attractive as she may be, after such attack, no man would want her for a wife.


That is totally untrue.

[k-os]

And you want to know something very tragic?

As attractive as she may be, after such attack, no man would want her for a wife.


That is totally untrue.


Well, at least now we know why so many women don't report rapes.

[BillBoard]

And you want to know something very tragic?

As attractive as she may be, after such attack, no man would want her for a wife.


That is totally untrue.


Well, at least now we know why so many women don't report rapes.



KOS, rape is akin to murder in my view. And may be much more than that for the victim, since the victim must continue to carry on with the stigma.

There was an interview I heard about the Kosovo rape victims that stated that the rape was horrible enough, but the whispers and stigma of the rape made life a true hell.

[Libertytree]

And you want to know something very tragic?

As attractive as she may be, after such attack, no man would want her for a wife.


That is totally untrue.


I'm calling BS on this one too. I knew my 1st wife had been brutally raped and I was proud to have her as my wife. To this day I think she had more grit than most men I know.

[Sparky]

...
As attractive as she may be, after such attack, no man would want her for a wife.


Add me to the group who think this statement is way off base.

There seems to be a lot of judgment in this thread, compared to the facts. It's not clear if she was raped, what she was wearing, how she was acting, or whether she really exercised any bad judgment.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned here: Why did this story take 5 days to break?

[Awoke]

So this went from her being gang raped and assaulted, to her being "sexually assaulted", which could consist of a guy grabbing her by the tit, or even just saying "nice ass".
We'll see how it plays out. The compassionate heart in me hopes that she wasn;t truely assaulted at all. No-one deserves that, no matter what position or situation they put themselves in.








And you want to know something very tragic?

As attractive as she may be, after such attack, no man would want her for a wife.


That is totally untrue.


Well, at least now we know why so many women don't report rapes.


No K-os, I said that it was UNtrue. I know guys that would chop off their left nut to have a girlfriend as pretty as her, never mind a wife.

When you fall in love with someone, their past doesn't matter. Just the present.

(Unless of course you fall in love with a female serial killer who has a pattern of killing her husbands, etc)




But this line sticks out big time, "We were accused of being Israeli spies". MSM, people, you never can tell just who's side anyone is on.


It is obvious that the jews believe they have been successfull with their campaign of philo-semitism, to the point where they are tossing that out there for the purpose of making the westerners pity the "poor jews" again, and support israel.

It is obvious to me who's side MSN is on.

[Hermie]

http://tundratruth.blogspot.com/2011/02/cbs-news-reporter-sexually-assaulted-by.html

From Alaska Intel Report by Grizzly Adams

"I've got an 8 pound Bass hanging on the wall that, if he could talk, would tell you what happens when you swallow anything that is presented without checking it out really well first, and this story smells like he would after about three days in the sun !"

I was talking to a friend of mine as I scanned the international news websites starting with Matt Drudge, when the headline blared out the news . As soon as I saw it, I immediately said, I bet it's Lara Logan !.. No I didn't have special powers, or inside info, but I do have a good memory.

I remembered the 'scuttlebutt' during the Iraq war and Afghanistan recounting her interesting habit of attempting to break the monotony over there by 'boinking' several soldiers and other contract employees sometimes in the back of pickup trucks and hummers. This practice was widely known by those who could get her anything she was in need of. (transportation to the front, permission to travel to certain destinations, information she could use, etc.) That's why I said I bet its Lara Logan. It just didn't smell right. (No pun intended) but back to the story.

So let's start out with the term most journalist and editors use until the facts are proven. The Term is 'allegedly' .
Were there any witnesses to this alleged 'sexual' assualt ? (as opposed to a crowd of people hollering at her, or smacking or pushing her around and in the process touching her in her 'no no places' as we tell our kids) You know witnesses are people willing to come forward and say 'Yep, I saw it, that's what happened all right'

The second red flag was the use of terms like 'she was surrounded by dangerous elements' and 'It was a crowd of 200 whipped up into a frenzy !' nothing suspicious here right ??!!

'She was rescued by a group of women and about 20 soldiers' .. so I assume one of them (at least) must have seen this alleged 'sexual' assault right? Did they attempt to take her to any hospital or anywhere else for medical treatment ? Did the soldiers attempt to round up those responsible ? Did in fact, anybody see this alleged sexual assault which presumably took place in a crowd of thousands of witnesses ? C'mon folks .. anybody ?

Another red flag (for me) was .. 'she was covering the 'jubilation in the square' and I thought to myself, is this what people in Egypt do when they are celebrating their new found freedom? Is this what I would do if I were an Egyptian and I had just heard that this tough fought battle against Mubarak was won ? At a time when I'd be standing there with my heart bursting with pride and my mouth filled with joyous chants, do I say .. 'Hey I'm so proud to re-write Egyptian history after years of oppression, let's go grab that american reporter and beat her up and have our way with her guys. I mean who will see it, who will notice? ... I think not.

Look folks we'd already seen Anderson Cooper being chased all over Cairo, and 'roughed up' (he must have come from a different neighborhood then were I grew up !) and sweet little Katie Couric run screaming to the airport after being 'crowded' so reporters being chased and screamed at, at this point, was getting to be a normal bill of fare on the TV news. Typical page 6 stuff.

Then along comes Lara, a little bigger, a little different, a little better story Lara. A reporter with a reputation for doing whatever it takes to get 'face time' on TV Lara.
I suspect that she knew that getting roughed up would have hardly elicited a yawn at that point, so she decided to 'pump it up' or 'sex it up' as the Brits would say, just a little. Let's make it more interesting. We'll add a little sex to the story (You know how those Americans love that stuff !)

Did they throw her down on the ground and gang rape her, or did some Egyptian in his excitement plant a wet one on her face without asking her permission first ? (the nerve !) I mean we know 'Those Mooslims' are known for sexually assaulting women in crowded squares in front of thousands of witnesses right ? Please !!

I've got an 8 pound Bass hanging on the wall that, if he could talk, would tell you what happens when you swallow anything that is presented without checking it out really well first, and this story smells like he would after about three days in the sun !

So, if "There will be 'no further comment from CBS News' and correspondent 'Logan and her family respectfully request privacy at this time" ... I guess we'll just have to take her word for it right ? (Not !!)
Sorry Lara, if its all true, you have my sympathies, but until I hear it from witnesses all I can say is ..
Lara your reputation precedes you !

But true or false .. Let's examine how this story will play .. What's the subliminal message here ?.. What will the drones walk away with after reading it .. 'Those Egyptians have brought shame down on themselves and Egypt !' .. 'How brave our journalists are for facing these beatings and assaults in an effort to defend the 4th Estate !' ... Now who would want to put that kind of a message out ! Surely not the big MSM's like Fox, CNN, ABC, or CBS !

Now I'm aware that some REAL journalists were arrested and beaten etc, but as far as I can keep count, most of the 'talking heads' from the MSM that were there trying to use the occasion as a backdrop for there stories, ended up suffering mostly from shoulder sprains as a result of excessive 'patting themselves on the back' for being sooo brave !

Honestly, I'm beginning to think that CBS has come to stand for 'Complete Bull Shi # ..'
Yahoo's Story here ... Scroll down to the comments section at the bottom of the page .. Interestingly it says "There are no comments yet" and underneath that ..
"Comments have been closed for this article" well, I guess that's one way of stifling the input ! I wonder why?
Posted by GrizzlyAdams at 10:48 PM
http://tundratruth.blogspot.com/2011/02/cbs-news-reporter-sexually-assaulted-by.html

[k-os]

So this went from her being gang raped and assaulted, to her being "sexually assaulted", which could consist of a guy grabbing her by the tit, or even just saying "nice ass".
We'll see how it plays out. The compassionate heart in me hopes that she wasn;t truely assaulted at all. No-one deserves that, no matter what position or situation they put themselves in.


You are absolutely right. We will have to see what happened.



No K-os, I said that it was UNtrue. I know guys that would chop off their left nut to have a girlfriend as pretty as her, never mind a wife.


I was responding to you about BillBoard's comment, and to those that agree with him.

[Sparky]

...
Should I fear all men everywhere? If so, what does that say about YOU?

Where is the line drawn? Is it certain countries we are not supposed to visit? Are only "ugly" women allowed to be in a group of men? Who decides who is ugly enough to be in the company of men? Is it her blonde hair? Should we all dye our hair darker? How long should our skirts be before we are not blamed for being raped? Are we allowed to show our ankles? Seriously, wtf?

Sorry, but you touched a nerve.


As you probably already know deep down, it's a small minority of men that need to be feared, but not knowing which ones requires caution with all of them, which impacts the rest of us.

The mysterious and frustrating thing is that lots of the "bad" men seem to do very well with women. Seriously, wtf?

[onceseen]

Obviously I wasn't there and I can't say to a certainty that I know what happened, but I don't buy it that making fake accusations is a boon to her career. This post is a good example of why the opposite is probably true. However, if it turns out she is she made fake accusations, I'll be the first one to jump all over her. I think she should be given the benefit of the doubt though, simply because the majority of women would not want everyone to know that they were gang raped.

dys




http://tundratruth.blogspot.com/2011/02/cbs-news-reporter-sexually-assaulted-by.html

From Alaska Intel Report by Grizzly Adams

"I've got an 8 pound Bass hanging on the wall that, if he could talk, would tell you what happens when you swallow anything that is presented without checking it out really well first, and this story smells like he would after about three days in the sun !"

I was talking to a friend of mine as I scanned the international news websites starting with Matt Drudge, when the headline blared out the news . As soon as I saw it, I immediately said, I bet it's Lara Logan !.. No I didn't have special powers, or inside info, but I do have a good memory.

I remembered the 'scuttlebutt' during the Iraq war and Afghanistan recounting her interesting habit of attempting to break the monotony over there by 'boinking' several soldiers and other contract employees sometimes in the back of pickup trucks and hummers. This practice was widely known by those who could get her anything she was in need of. (transportation to the front, permission to travel to certain destinations, information she could use, etc.) That's why I said I bet its Lara Logan. It just didn't smell right. (No pun intended) but back to the story.

So let's start out with the term most journalist and editors use until the facts are proven. The Term is 'allegedly' .
Were there any witnesses to this alleged 'sexual' assualt ? (as opposed to a crowd of people hollering at her, or smacking or pushing her around and in the process touching her in her 'no no places' as we tell our kids) You know witnesses are people willing to come forward and say 'Yep, I saw it, that's what happened all right'

The second red flag was the use of terms like 'she was surrounded by dangerous elements' and 'It was a crowd of 200 whipped up into a frenzy !' nothing suspicious here right ??!!

'She was rescued by a group of women and about 20 soldiers' .. so I assume one of them (at least) must have seen this alleged 'sexual' assault right? Did they attempt to take her to any hospital or anywhere else for medical treatment ? Did the soldiers attempt to round up those responsible ? Did in fact, anybody see this alleged sexual assault which presumably took place in a crowd of thousands of witnesses ? C'mon folks .. anybody ?

Another red flag (for me) was .. 'she was covering the 'jubilation in the square' and I thought to myself, is this what people in Egypt do when they are celebrating their new found freedom? Is this what I would do if I were an Egyptian and I had just heard that this tough fought battle against Mubarak was won ? At a time when I'd be standing there with my heart bursting with pride and my mouth filled with joyous chants, do I say .. 'Hey I'm so proud to re-write Egyptian history after years of oppression, let's go grab that american reporter and beat her up and have our way with her guys. I mean who will see it, who will notice? ... I think not.

Look folks we'd already seen Anderson Cooper being chased all over Cairo, and 'roughed up' (he must have come from a different neighborhood then were I grew up !) and sweet little Katie Couric run screaming to the airport after being 'crowded' so reporters being chased and screamed at, at this point, was getting to be a normal bill of fare on the TV news. Typical page 6 stuff.

Then along comes Lara, a little bigger, a little different, a little better story Lara. A reporter with a reputation for doing whatever it takes to get 'face time' on TV Lara.
I suspect that she knew that getting roughed up would have hardly elicited a yawn at that point, so she decided to 'pump it up' or 'sex it up' as the Brits would say, just a little. Let's make it more interesting. We'll add a little sex to the story (You know how those Americans love that stuff !)

Did they throw her down on the ground and gang rape her, or did some Egyptian in his excitement plant a wet one on her face without asking her permission first ? (the nerve !) I mean we know 'Those Mooslims' are known for sexually assaulting women in crowded squares in front of thousands of witnesses right ? Please !!

I've got an 8 pound Bass hanging on the wall that, if he could talk, would tell you what happens when you swallow anything that is presented without checking it out really well first, and this story smells like he would after about three days in the sun !

So, if "There will be 'no further comment from CBS News' and correspondent 'Logan and her family respectfully request privacy at this time" ... I guess we'll just have to take her word for it right ? (Not !!)
Sorry Lara, if its all true, you have my sympathies, but until I hear it from witnesses all I can say is ..
Lara your reputation precedes you !

But true or false .. Let's examine how this story will play .. What's the subliminal message here ?.. What will the drones walk away with after reading it .. 'Those Egyptians have brought shame down on themselves and Egypt !' .. 'How brave our journalists are for facing these beatings and assaults in an effort to defend the 4th Estate !' ... Now who would want to put that kind of a message out ! Surely not the big MSM's like Fox, CNN, ABC, or CBS !

Now I'm aware that some REAL journalists were arrested and beaten etc, but as far as I can keep count, most of the 'talking heads' from the MSM that were there trying to use the occasion as a backdrop for there stories, ended up suffering mostly from shoulder sprains as a result of excessive 'patting themselves on the back' for being sooo brave !

Honestly, I'm beginning to think that CBS has come to stand for 'Complete Bull Shi # ..'
Yahoo's Story here ... Scroll down to the comments section at the bottom of the page .. Interestingly it says "There are no comments yet" and underneath that ..
"Comments have been closed for this article" well, I guess that's one way of stifling the input ! I wonder why?
Posted by GrizzlyAdams at 10:48 PM
http://tundratruth.blogspot.com/2011/02/cbs-news-reporter-sexually-assaulted-by.html

[Awoke]

I am personally in neither camp. I don't believe or disbelieve it.
I hope it didn't happen.

On a side note: WOW! She is a knock out! Totally gorgeous!

[BillBoard]

And you want to know something very tragic?

As attractive as she may be, after such attack, no man would want her for a wife.


That is totally untrue.


I'm calling BS on this one too. I knew my 1st wife had been brutally raped and I was proud to have her as my wife. To this day I think she had more grit than most men I know.


So why is she now your ex-wife?

And how was living with her after that ordeal, did you help her cope?

How about social events, did your acquaintances made it for you guys to feel at easy by how they treated the subject?

Hmm, no matter how you paint it, choosing a victim of rape as a mate is a very difficult decision to make.

[Awoke]

Only if you're shallow.

[Uncle Salty]

As attractive as she may be, after such attack, no man would want her for a wife.


Wrong. Incorrect. Fail.

[Libertytree]

And you want to know something very tragic?

As attractive as she may be, after such attack, no man would want her for a wife.


That is totally untrue.


I'm calling BS on this one too. I knew my 1st wife had been brutally raped and I was proud to have her as my wife. To this day I think she had more grit than most men I know.


So why is she now your ex-wife?

And how was living with her after that ordeal, did you help her cope?

How about social events, did your acquaintances made it for you guys to feel at easy by how they treated the subject?

Hmm, no matter how you paint it, choosing a victim of rape as a mate is a very difficult decision to make.


She died in my arms from an asthma attack some years later.

It was difficult at first for sure, at the time we were both just thanking God that we were still alive. This happened at the same time I referenced earlier about not being aware of the situation. I was brutally beaten within an inch of my life with the intent to kill me and she was raped. We actually helped each other cope.

The whole story was never shared except for a couple very close friends.

It wasn't a difficult decision at all, like I said, she was the most exceptional woman I've ever known with more moxy and grit than 90% of the men I know.

[Awoke]

Prayers sent, Liberty Tree.

:'(

[Sparky]

...
Should I fear all men everywhere? If so, what does that say about YOU?

Where is the line drawn? Is it certain countries we are not supposed to visit? Are only "ugly" women allowed to be in a group of men? Who decides who is ugly enough to be in the company of men? Is it her blonde hair? Should we all dye our hair darker? How long should our skirts be before we are not blamed for being raped? Are we allowed to show our ankles? Seriously, wtf?

Sorry, but you touched a nerve.


As you probably already know deep down, it's a small minority of men that need to be feared, but not knowing which ones requires caution with all of them, which impacts the rest of us.

The mysterious and frustrating thing is that lots of the "bad" men seem to do very well with women. Seriously, wtf?


Though maybe my comments should be restricted to American men...

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/02/16/rogers.egypt.sexual.harrassment/index.html?hpt=T2

[BillBoard]

And you want to know something very tragic?

As attractive as she may be, after such attack, no man would want her for a wife.


That is totally untrue.


I'm calling BS on this one too. I knew my 1st wife had been brutally raped and I was proud to have her as my wife. To this day I think she had more grit than most men I know.


So why is she now your ex-wife?

And how was living with her after that ordeal, did you help her cope?

How about social events, did your acquaintances made it for you guys to feel at easy by how they treated the subject?

Hmm, no matter how you paint it, choosing a victim of rape as a mate is a very difficult decision to make.


She died in my arms from an asthma attack some years later.

It was difficult at first for sure, at the time we were both just thanking God that we were still alive. This happened at the same time I referenced earlier about not being aware of the situation. I was brutally beaten within an inch of my life with the intent to kill me and she was raped. We actually helped each other cope.

The whole story was never shared except for a couple very close friends.

It wasn't a difficult decision at all, like I said, she was the most exceptional woman I've ever known with more moxy and grit than 90% of the men I know.




Liberty Tree, my condolences.

[Neuro]

Libertytree, I am sorry for your loss!

[MNeagle]

Sorry, LT, but I'm speechless.

I knew you went through something tough with her, but had no idea of the story. Prayers & hugs your way. I know you've offered many others on this board your strength through their trials.

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[Horn]

Seems like its working pretty well.

[Libertytree]

I appreciate your thoughts very much, thank you. :) She woulda fit right in here that's for sure.

I didn't intend to derail the thread though, just offering up my personal POV.

[Twisted Titan]

Your POV is greatly appreciated and respected to the utmost degree.

T

[chad]

And you want to know something very tragic?

As attractive as she may be, after such attack, no man would want her for a wife.


That is totally untrue.


I'm calling BS on this one too. I knew my 1st wife had been brutally raped and I was proud to have her as my wife. To this day I think she had more grit than most men I know.


So why is she now your ex-wife?

And how was living with her after that ordeal, did you help her cope?

How about social events, did your acquaintances made it for you guys to feel at easy by how they treated the subject?

Hmm, no matter how you paint it, choosing a victim of rape as a mate is a very difficult decision to make.


She died in my arms from an asthma attack some years later.

It was difficult at first for sure, at the time we were both just thanking God that we were still alive. This happened at the same time I referenced earlier about not being aware of the situation. I was brutally beaten within an inch of my life with the intent to kill me and she was raped. We actually helped each other cope.

The whole story was never shared except for a couple very close friends.

It wasn't a difficult decision at all, like I said, she was the most exceptional woman I've ever known with more moxy and grit than 90% of the men I know.




holy shit, you have balls for posting that on here. :-[

[zap]

LT,

Thanks for sharing the whole story with us, She must have been a one hell of a lady !



Thankyou, for being there for me, when I lost mine. ;)


Hugs to you my friend.

[Libertytree]

And you want to know something very tragic?

As attractive as she may be, after such attack, no man would want her for a wife.


That is totally untrue.


I'm calling BS on this one too. I knew my 1st wife had been brutally raped and I was proud to have her as my wife. To this day I think she had more grit than most men I know.


So why is she now your ex-wife?

And how was living with her after that ordeal, did you help her cope?

How about social events, did your acquaintances made it for you guys to feel at easy by how they treated the subject?

Hmm, no matter how you paint it, choosing a victim of rape as a mate is a very difficult decision to make.


She died in my arms from an asthma attack some years later.

It was difficult at first for sure, at the time we were both just thanking God that we were still alive. This happened at the same time I referenced earlier about not being aware of the situation. I was brutally beaten within an inch of my life with the intent to kill me and she was raped. We actually helped each other cope.

The whole story was never shared except for a couple very close friends.

It wasn't a difficult decision at all, like I said, she was the most exceptional woman I've ever known with more moxy and grit than 90% of the men I know.




holy shit, you have balls for posting that on here. :-[


Not balls, just the plain ol' truth. The truth of the matter is....yaw'll know more about me than 99.9% of anyone I've ever known IRL. In a lot of ways yaw'll are a lot more like family than family.

[JDRock]

..so a media trollop, who whores herself out for a living ,lying to america ....gets a taste of arab society...
whats news here???

[Bullion_Bob]

If I were her looking as nice as she does with that full blonde head of hair, I would have at least worn a head scarf.

These were people rioting against western political meddling. Very bad timing to be a hot "western looking" blonde girl out in the middle of a chaotic riot going against any/all western intervention.

Under normal circumstances, no problem. In the middle of an enraged mob being attacked & provoked?

Yikes.


That poor woman. I can't imagine life after an experience like that. Trying not to be too dramatic, but this is the truth - I would just want to end it all.

I would like to think I would not have put myself into that type of danger, but according to friends and acquaintances of mine, I should not travel the way I do (and have in the past) because of similar fears. Should I fear all men everywhere? If so, what does that say about YOU?

Where is the line drawn? Is it certain countries we are not supposed to visit? Are only "ugly" women allowed to be in a group of men? Who decides who is ugly enough to be in the company of men? Is it her blonde hair? Should we all dye our hair darker? How long should our skirts be before we are not blamed for being raped? Are we allowed to show our ankles? Seriously, wtf?

Sorry, but you touched a nerve.


You wouldn't run in to a burning building thinking you're not going to possibly get injured would you?

How about participating in a gang fight not expecting to see confrontation or harm?

This was an environment where a large group people were fighting, and dying. This was well known in advance.

Same as most people would not walk into gang territory wearing the wrong colors at night to see what happens.

When people voluntarily put themselves in known harms way, one has to question their sanity.

What you're describing is a very different scenario than what was going on in Egypt at the time.

[Bullion_Bob]

If I were her looking as nice as she does with that full blonde head of hair, I would have at least worn a head scarf.
...


How do you know she wasn't?


There are pictures and video footage of her in the crowd.

[Spectrism]

I am in the camp that says it is SHAMEFUL to send a woman into a muslim-dominated country to report on volatile stories. Likewise, it is SHAMEFUL to have female secretary of state or ambassador to muslim nations. But this is all silliness in a country owned by global elite who make a mockery of liberty and lead the head sheople around with rings through their noses. Any amerikan in the middle east uprisings will NOT be welcomed. How stupid can you be to poke your zionist journalistic nose into an incited beehive of disenfranchised rioters?

[Buddha]

Pretty dumb decision for her to go there, it's even dumber for some group or person to send her there. Even dumber is her "guard detail" if she had one they were worthless, if she didn't it's dumb. The suspected rapists were even dumber if this actually happened. It's just dumb all around.

[lapis]

Then there's this story about her:

"Lara Logan Was Right to Put Her Career Before Her Kids" (http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/116386/lara_logan_was_right_to)

"In a world where moms are told more times than not that we ought to stay in the kitchen, stick close to home, and keep ourselves safe, Amanpour and Logan are doing the opposite. They are purposely going into harm's way to serve a greater good and they are paying dearly."

Oh please, :oo--> the only ones who are paying dearly are her children.

What b.s.! There is so much pressure on women to work outside the home, and it's not for some greater good, or an exciting career, but to pay the bills. Most of the moms I know who work outside the home full-time hate it.

But I have a few single women friends with exciting careers, and I respect that they know themselves enough to realize there's not enough room for that type of career AND kids.

I just cannot imagine leaving young kids at home for ANY reason. They NEED you desperately up until about seven or so years old. Anyone saying anything different is LYING.

[Twisted Titan]

There is so much pressure on women to work outside the home, and it's not for some greater good, or an exciting career, but to pay the bills.

And what do you think is going to be taught to the wee ones?

[BillBoard]

Then there's this story about her:

"Lara Logan Was Right to Put Her Career Before Her Kids" (http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/116386/lara_logan_was_right_to)

"In a world where moms are told more times than not that we ought to stay in the kitchen, stick close to home, and keep ourselves safe, Amanpour and Logan are doing the opposite. They are purposely going into harm's way to serve a greater good and they are paying dearly."

Oh please, :oo--> the only ones who are paying dearly are her children.

What b.s.! There is so much pressure on women to work outside the home, and it's not for some greater good, or an exciting career, but to pay the bills. Most of the moms I know who work outside the home full-time hate it.

But I have a few single women friends with exciting careers, and I respect that they know themselves enough to realize there's not enough room for that type of career AND kids.

I just cannot imagine leaving young kids at home for ANY reason. They NEED you desperately up until about seven or so years old. Anyone saying anything different is LYING.



Stay at home moms don't add to the GDP, and the Govt. can't collect taxes on them. The Govt. rather have the moms work outside the home were they can monetize their labor.

[Book]

Maybe they will replace her with this journalist (http://donkeypuncher.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/melissa-theuriau1.jpg)

:dunno

[Buddha]

Maybe they will replace her with this journalist (http://donkeypuncher.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/melissa-theuriau1.jpg)

:dunno


Talk about a hot one :boom I need to get back into shunning material things.... Though I also do preach joyful participation in the worlds sorrows if it can't be helped. Can I help it??? Decisions, decisions.

[Awoke]

What b.s.! There is so much pressure on women to work outside the home, and it's not for some greater good, or an exciting career, but to pay the bills. Most of the moms I know who work outside the home full-time hate it.


It also serves the purpose of destroying the family unit. Neither parent is home to dedicate their focus on the moral instruction and guidance of their children. They rely on babysitters or daycare, who are doing that work for money, and while both parents work their days away, they get increasingly further in debt. At least, that is what I see going on.

[sirgonzo420]

Maybe they will replace her with this journalist (http://donkeypuncher.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/melissa-theuriau1.jpg)

:dunno


gee way to make us all sin even more

;)

[Tumbleweed]

I've dated several women who have been beaten and raped. They didn't have physical scars, theirs were on the inside and were emotional. Because of their scars they had problems with trusting and memorys that haunted them. It's kind of like a horse who someone has been beaten on the head. They may forget the person or reason they were beaten but they become headshy of everyone and that never completely goes away no matter how long you may work to get them to trust you.

I've read that Mohamed said it was ok for his soldiers to rape women that were taken captive in war. Their are some quotes from the Koran I think we all should read just like we need to read the Talmud to understand the Jews.

The Quran in Sura 4:24 says:

And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands (as prisoners of war) . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 319). (See also Suras 4:3 and 33:50)

Thus, women captives are sometimes forced to marry their Muslim masters, regardless of the marital status of the women. That is, the masters are allowed to have sex with the enslaved human property.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/women_slaves.htm

[sirgonzo420]

I've dated several women who have been beaten and raped. They didn't have physical scars, theirs were on the inside and were emotional. Because of their scars they had problems with trusting and memorys that haunted them. It's kind of like a horse who someone has been beaten on the head. They may forget the person or reason they were beaten but they become headshy of everyone and that never completely goes away no matter how long you may work to get them to trust you.

I've read that Mohamed said it was ok for his soldiers to rape women that were taken captive in war. Their are some quotes from the Koran I think we all should read just like we need to read the Talmud to understand the Jews.

The Quran in Sura 4:24 says:

And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands (as prisoners of war) . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 319). (See also Suras 4:3 and 33:50)

Thus, women captives are sometimes forced to marry their Muslim masters, regardless of the marital status of the women. That is, the masters are allowed to have sex with the enslaved human property.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/women_slaves.htm




The bible says some pretty twisted shit about raping women too.

Like Deuteronomy 22:28-29


28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;

29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

along with more than a few others...

[Twisted Titan]

What b.s.! There is so much pressure on women to work outside the home, and it's not for some greater good, or an exciting career, but to pay the bills. Most of the moms I know who work outside the home full-time hate it.





It also serves the purpose of destroying the family unit. Neither parent is home to dedicate their focus on the moral instruction and guidance of their children.



Que up to minute 9:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA

[BillBoard]

I heard an interview about a rapist, whom I think was from Missouri, that while at trial and in defense claimed to be innocent and not guilty because the women he had raped were "really wet" from their vagina when he raped them. Even though the women had never met them.

In once case, he performed oral sex on the woman first and told her she wouldn't be hurt if sex relaxed, the he claimed that she didn't struggle therefore it wasn't rape.

One of the women at trial while being cross examined by the defense lawyer admitted her vagina did lubricate, and was frustrated at how her body reacted while she struggle to defend herself from the attack, testifying that her body had betrayed her by making it easier for the rapist to penetrate her.

I remember my wife commenting how terrified she felt listening to the interview and imagining her body reacting the same way.

Rape is a very grave crime, only a man that has been raped could imagine how horrible it must be for a woman to go through that I think.

[Awoke]

What b.s.! There is so much pressure on women to work outside the home, and it's not for some greater good, or an exciting career, but to pay the bills. Most of the moms I know who work outside the home full-time hate it.





It also serves the purpose of destroying the family unit. Neither parent is home to dedicate their focus on the moral instruction and guidance of their children.



Que up to minute 9:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA


Sorry TA, I can't see Youtube.

[k-os]

What b.s.! There is so much pressure on women to work outside the home, and it's not for some greater good, or an exciting career, but to pay the bills. Most of the moms I know who work outside the home full-time hate it.





It also serves the purpose of destroying the family unit. Neither parent is home to dedicate their focus on the moral instruction and guidance of their children.



Que up to minute 9:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA


Sorry TA, I can't see Youtube.



He said "women's liberation" was funded by the Rockefellers to be able to tax the other 50% of people (women), and to get children into the indoctrination camps (school) earlier.

[onceseen]

I have always questioned the genuineness of journalist that put themselves in danger or harms way to get a great story. How many do so for the greater good of man, or to chase the elusive Pulitzer Prize and the fame and fortune that come with it.
The ultra-narcissist Herdildo Rivera comes to mind as someone seeking self gratification and personal enrichment.
I wonder how this discussion would have turned out if Lara had been killed by the mob instead of allegedly "reported by the media", being raped?
There is no justifying rape in any circumstance and I know most women regard this crime as the worst atrocity that can happen to them. The pain and fear victims must face after such an incident is unimaginable to me.
At what point must a person assume responsibility for their own actions or the danger they place themselves in?
I equate what Lara did, as to climbing into a den of pit vipers to get a close up interview.



If there is no justification for rape, why are you trying to justify it? Rapists are not victims of power hungry journalists trying to make a name for themselves. Her motives are not a factor in determing culpability for this crime. Let's say that she dressed like a whore, or even literally was a whore/prostitute. Doesn't matter. No justfication for rape means no no justification for rape.
As to the situation she put herself in, irrelevant as well. The bad guys love the 'guilty by association' play, which is just a convoluted method of perverting obligation and responsibility. Again, we are 100% responsible for what we do in this world and 0% responsible for what others do.

dys

[mick silver]

i still dont know why they let her go out ... they knew this would happen . anyone with a half a brain knew this was going to happen theys people are pissed an plus she not a bad looker

[BillBoard]

i still dont know why they let her go out ... they knew this would happen . anyone with a half a brain knew this was going to happen theys people are pissed an plus she not a bad looker


If she was ugly looking, would that make the rape any less of an act of violence?

Does anyone here think that she was more prone to be raped because she is easy on the eyes?

[sirgonzo420]

i still dont know why they let her go out ... they knew this would happen . anyone with a half a brain knew this was going to happen theys people are pissed an plus she not a bad looker


If she was ugly looking, would that make the rape any less of an act of violence?

Does anyone here think that she was more prone to be raped because she is easy on the eyes?


She would have been less likely to be raped if she looked like this:

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/2006/09/real-ugly-face.jpg

FACT.


Sorry, but it's true. The more attractive a woman is, the more likely she is to be raped.

Another contributing factor to rape is LOCATION.

[onceseen]

I have always questioned the genuineness of journalist that put themselves in danger or harms way to get a great story. How many do so for the greater good of man, or to chase the elusive Pulitzer Prize and the fame and fortune that come with it.
The ultra-narcissist Herdildo Rivera comes to mind as someone seeking self gratification and personal enrichment.
I wonder how this discussion would have turned out if Lara had been killed by the mob instead of allegedly "reported by the media", being raped?
There is no justifying rape in any circumstance and I know most women regard this crime as the worst atrocity that can happen to them. The pain and fear victims must face after such an incident is unimaginable to me.
At what point must a person assume responsibility for their own actions or the danger they place themselves in?
I equate what Lara did, as to climbing into a den of pit vipers to get a close up interview.



If there is no justification for rape, why are you trying to justify it? Rapists are not victims of power hungry journalists trying to make a name for themselves. Her motives are not a factor in determing culpability for this crime. Let's say that she dressed like a whore, or even literally was a whore/prostitute. Doesn't matter. No justfication for rape means no no justification for rape.
As to the situation she put herself in, irrelevant as well. The bad guys love the 'guilty by association' play, which is just a convoluted method of perverting obligation and responsibility. Again, we are 100% responsible for what we do in this world and 0% responsible for what others do.

dys

Don't try to make it sound like I'm justifying anything!
I speak about anyone putting themselves in harms way, be it robbery, attacks or murder.
Does putting yourself in the middle of a fire-fight in a war to get a story and a paycheck sound like a safe rational thing to do? How about extreme sports that cause people to risk or lose their life?
Self preservation is an option ya know.



At what point must a person assume responsibility for their own actions or the danger they place themselves in?

This is what you said. Looks like a justification to me, or at least a subtle attempt to blame the victim. The answer to your question is that there is no point that a person becomes responsible for what someone else (or multiple people) does.

dys

[Antonio]

Rapists regardless of circumstances need to be dissolved alive in acid no stronger than 10k, preferably even weaker so add water.

[Book]

It has already been reported that Lara Logan WAS NOT RAPED.

http://waltmorgan.com/img/frankjude.jpg

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/replicate/EXID54956/images/Rodney_King.jpg

http://www.history.com/minisites/blackhistory/timeline/assets/images/large/1992_rodney_king.jpg

I imagine Rodney King wished that the cops had only grabbed his butt and boobs.

:oo-->

[BillBoard]

She wasn't raped?

Ah, that's cool then, Viva Egypt's non raping revolutionaries! ::)

[Hatha Sunahara]

Rape is about power, not necessarily sex. We have abundant rapes on video at Youtube. Just do a search on Police brutality. You can watch both men and women getting raped (violated in the extreme) by cops all day if you wish. And it's all legal. Maybe not lawful or moral, but our justice system gives them that right.

I'm pretty sure Egypt has trained agent provocateurs to threaten foreign journalists--or sent them to the US to be trained by the FBI. Lara Logan may have run into this bunch in the crowd, because there were a lot of them there.


Hatha

[ximmy]

It appears she was not raped... pro-zionist media is pissed...

UPDATE: CBS Senior Reporter Lara Logan Was Not Raped, Resting At Home
CBS Senior Reporter Lara LoganLara Logan: This is the latest news update that CBS Senior Reporter Lara Logan is now resting at her Washington, D.C. According to the People magazine report "Logan is now resting at her Washington, D.C.

"The US network said earlier, a senior CBS correspondent is recovering in hospital in the US after she was beaten and sexually assaulted by a mob while covering the Egyptian protests.

According to a Wall Street Journal source, Logan, 39, who is mother to two young children, was not raped.

According to different media sources, CBS Senior Reporter Lara Logan will be released from a hospital today. UPDATE: CBS Senior Reporter Lara Logan Is OK And Taking Rest At Home In Washington & She Was Not Raped

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/8208799-update-cbs-senior-reporter-lara-logan-is-ok-and-taking-rest-at-home-in-washington-she-was-not-raped

[Horn]

It appears she was not raped... pro-zionist media is pissed...


Breaking News:

Anderson Cooper was just assaulted in much the same way, and he's equated it as traveling to heaven & meeting 72 virgins.

[Awoke]

I figured someone was elated, and just smacked her on the ass or grabbed her boob or something.

[dys]

I don't know who it was that floated the rape story, but whoever it was deserves the utmost contempt. Pretty sickening to make something like up.

dys

[Spectrism]

We are not hearing the truth. Why was she in a hospital for 5 days?

[skid]

While this does not have much bearing on this particular incident, the world is changing back to where it was. Not too far in the past woman would not travel without having a man to protect her. There are a lot of unsavory opportunistic people in the world and a women can be be raped or robbed much easier than a man. In the devolution of our society I can see things going this way again, especially if TSHTF. A lot of the man haters will get a rude awakening.

[Book]

We are not hearing the truth. Why was she in a hospital for 5 days?



http://weddingcometrue.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/male-manicure.jpg

http://blog.spafinder.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/massage.jpg

[Twisted Titan]

Who will be the first to apoligize to Eygpts revolutionaries???

Anyone??

Anyone??

Buheler???

[k-os]

At first some people did not believe it happened because MSM said it happened.

Now, those same people believe it didn't happen because MSM said it didn't happen.

If I was raped, I wouldn't want to broadcast that information to the world. I have no idea if she was raped or not, but there appears to be motive for lying either way.

[Book]

If I was raped, I wouldn't want to broadcast that information to the world.



http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/7/2010/08/340x_assange340_01.jpg

Gee...seems to be no problem publicly identifying the alleged rapist while keeping the accuser's identity always sealed by court order. The media NEVER identifies the accuser. Why is that?

:conf:

[Horn]

I haven't heard much about it after the initial story, wonder if there ever was one?


CBS has released more details about Lara Logan’s assault in Egypt on February 11.

New reports state that that a 200 member mob surrounded Lara Logan’s team and proceeded to beat her and her colleagues with fists and flag poles. They tore off Logan’s clothing and attacked her for 30 minutes. When they stopped, Logan was left with red welts covering her entire body and what looked like bite marks – although sources say that these were caused by “aggressive pinching.”

http://www.twirlit.com/2011/02/22/lara-logan-2011-details-emerge-what-happened-in-egypt-that-night/

[k-os]

If I was raped, I wouldn't want to broadcast that information to the world.



http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/7/2010/08/340x_assange340_01.jpg

Gee...seems to be no problem publicly identifying the alleged rapist while keeping the accuser's identity always sealed by court order. The media NEVER identifies the accuser. Why is that?

:conf:


I don't know, but perhaps the answer to that question is found within this thread.

[osoab]

If I was raped, I wouldn't want to broadcast that information to the world.



http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/7/2010/08/340x_assange340_01.jpg

Gee...seems to be no problem publicly identifying the alleged rapist while keeping the accuser's identity always sealed by court order. The media NEVER identifies the accuser. Why is that?

:conf:




One of the accusers has been named, Anna Ardin.

The Assange case isn't the correct case to correlate to. From what I understand, he is accused of not covering up for the deed. This is classified as rape in Sweden. The corroboration between the two victims sheds some grey area of the discussion.

[SilverTop]

There are no valid reports that she was raped from the beginning, just sexually assaulted.

I also saw the report that horn posted above.

Believe what you want, but until the rape is verified I will believe the report that horn posted and not spread unverifiable rumors.

[Book]

There are no valid reports that she was raped from the beginning, just sexually assaulted.



http://media.nowpublic.net/images//57/f/57f493e5eab352ddfd976fcb7923e673.jpg

This guy must be thankful nobody (god forbid) grabbed his butt or boobs.

What exactly is a "sexual assault" injury without rape?

Is a "sexual assault" injury without rape supposed to be worse than being beaten bloody?

:conf:

[mick silver]

dam book that guy mess up pretty bad ... it look like some hit him with a ball bat

[osoab]

There are no valid reports that she was raped from the beginning, just sexually assaulted.



http://media.nowpublic.net/images//57/f/57f493e5eab352ddfd976fcb7923e673.jpg

This guy must be thankful nobody (god forbid) grabbed his butt or boobs.

What exactly is a "sexual assault" injury without rape?

Is a "sexual assault" injury without rape supposed to be worse than being beaten bloody?

:conf:


Well, the one guy is wearing a mask. Damn perverts.

Probably stealing his wallet. :D

[Book]

dam book that guy mess up pretty bad ... it look like some hit him with a ball bat



Thank God nobody grabbed his butt or boobs...

:)

[ximmy]

dam book that guy mess up pretty bad ... it look like some hit him with a ball bat



Thank God nobody grabbed his butt or boobs...

:)


Perhaps an awfully fat woman sat on him... could that be construed as sexual assault???

[osoab]

dam book that guy mess up pretty bad ... it look like some hit him with a ball bat



Thank God nobody grabbed his butt or boobs...

:)


Perhaps an awfully fat woman sat on him... could that be construed as sexual assault???


Some might consider that torture. We are talking about Egypt.

Then others might consider it ...... ;D

[Book]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_E8MAURXGyJ4/TCvanzIsO0I/AAAAAAAABtU/VwHU-3WnUxU/s1600/Kicked-in-the-Nads.jpg

Seriously. Why isn't this ever considered "sexual assault"?

Know any guy who was charged with "sexual assault" for a kick to the gonads?

But oooooooh nooooooo...grabbing Lara Logan's butt or boobs is a non-rape SEXUAL ASSAULT !!! headline worldwide.

:dunno

[sunshine05]

Does anyone else find it odd that she was kicked out of Egypt days before this alleged attack occurred? Removed by the Egyptian military....and then what? She just decided she would head back there?

Lara Logan released from Egyptian Military Custody
By Chris Ariens on February 4, 2011 9:16 AM

Lara Logan and her crew have been released from custody one day after being detained by the Egyptian military. Logan was questioned and then detained while outside Israel’s embassy in Cairo. CBS was not commenting yesterday, but in an internal email obtained by TVNewser this morning, CBS News D.C. bureau chief Chris Isham writes:

Lara, Don and Max were released from Egyptian military custody early this morning and are now enroute back to Washington via London. They are scheduled to arrive at Dulles this evening.

New York Times’ Brian Stelter reports Brian Williams and Katie Couric are also returning to the U.S. amid heightened concerns for the safety of all journalists. Couric was in her New York studio last night for “Evening News.” Williams returns today.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/lara-logan-released-from-egyptian-military-custoday_b51633

[willie pete]

There are no valid reports that she was raped from the beginning, just sexually assaulted.



http://media.nowpublic.net/images//57/f/57f493e5eab352ddfd976fcb7923e673.jpg

This guy must be thankful nobody (god forbid) grabbed his butt or boobs.

What exactly is a "sexual assault" injury without rape?

Is a "sexual assault" injury without rape supposed to be worse than being beaten bloody?

:conf:



is that a bullet hole above his left eye brow?

[Book]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/04/28/article-1174249-04AFF1CF000005DC-711_468x286.jpg

BREAKING: Lara Logan Sexual Assault Injury Photo

:o

[sirgonzo420]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/04/28/article-1174249-04AFF1CF000005DC-711_468x286.jpg

BREAKING: Lara Logan Sexual Assault Injury Photo

:o






ROFL

[Book]

ROFL



:)

[sirgonzo420]

ROFL



:)


lololololol!

[Libertytree]

LMAO! Not only for the pic and context but that's the 1st Ben-Wa Balls tatt I've ever seen. Me thinks a jury might acquit ;)

[Book]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AyEtRvet__4/TRl9ZVS5roI/AAAAAAAAAnc/x-4iw6uvaoY/s1600/9_funny_high_5.jpg

Meanwhile, back on the "sexual assault" topic...

:o

[Antonio]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/04/28/article-1174249-04AFF1CF000005DC-711_468x286.jpg

BREAKING: Lara Logan Sexual Assault Injury Photo

:o






You never seize to amaze me,Book! Bravo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2m8Pgo_440

even sexier Lara Logan here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TULYBRHBAs&feature=related

[Book]

Probably the first infidel he ever got close to...

:o

[osoab]

Eyewitness: The Shocking Truth About What Happened To Lara Logan (http://femalefaust.blogspot.com/2011/02/eyewitness-shocking-truth-about-what.html)

Self claimed eye-witness of "non-accounts". :D

From what these guys are saying, there were no women involved in her "rescue". A group of men formed a chain(not that kind) around her and led her to the military at the Egyptian museum.

Good read.

[Antonio]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_2M3LrfFAw

[crazychicken]

Great video!

Thanks

CC




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_2M3LrfFAw

[lapis]

Eyewitness: The Shocking Truth About What Happened To Lara Logan (http://femalefaust.blogspot.com/2011/02/eyewitness-shocking-truth-about-what.html)

Self claimed eye-witness of "non-accounts". :D

From what these guys are saying, there were no women involved in her "rescue". A group of men formed a chain(not that kind) around her and led her to the military at the Egyptian museum.

Good read.


Thanks for the link. I read Témoris' blog post about what he witnessed. I scanned through the comments, and I agree with those who suspect that pro-Mubarak police/security force in plainclothes were probably responsible for whatever Lara did go through.

When rape is Your Tax Dollars at Work (http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2011/02/when-rape-is-your-tax-dollars-at-work.html)

One point I have not seen discussed is that rape is one of the things the United States paid the Mubarak regime for. Sexualized violence, rape, and even gang rape are not just signs of bestiality, barbarism, or boys inevitably being boys: they can be military and police tactics, and they are part of the toolbox of U.S. as well as Egyptian military/intelligence forces.

Inmy previous post about the Egyptian revolution (http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2011/02/the-revolution-was-indeed-televised.html), I quotedhttp://www.jadaliyya.com/pages/index/516/why-mubarak-is-out]Paul (http://http:[url) Amar[/url]:

the Interior Ministry and the Central Security Services started outsourcing coercion to these baltagiya, paying them well and training them to use sexualized brutality(from groping to rape) in order to punish and deter female protesters and male detainees, alike.

Emphasis is my own, to stress that rape is not actually something most men will do "naturally" or "instinctively": it is something that has to be taught or "modeled", especially if you're using it to make a directed political point or military tactic.

In Chapter 6 ofThe Dark Side (http://www.powells.com/biblio/7-9780307456298-1), "Outsourcing Torture", Jane Mayer outlines how Mubarak's Intelligence Services (Mukhabarat) was the CIA's trusted ally when the U.S. wanted to torture someone without getting blood directly on American hands. This torture would include whatever might break a person, including -- maybe even especially including -- rape. The willingness of Egyptian Intelligence to use sexualized violence -- their tactical experience with rape -- was one of their skills, one of the things the U.S. bought with our military and foreign aid to Egypt (about $2B/year (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/29/us-egypt-usa-aid-idUSTRE70S0IN20110129), almost all of it for military or "security" purposes).

[Awoke]

That's a long read to just convey the message that essentially nothing happened worth noting.
But thanks for posting it.