the brown dwarf .....

[Steal]

anyone else look up at the stars , with magnification?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9H4OuhuuWE

[old steel]

Looks like someone did their homework to me.

[Ares]

Interesting

[sirgonzo420]

I thought this was gonna be a thread about Gary Coleman.

???

[Neuro]

If this is a brown dwarf, I wonder if it may have a planet circling around it? If the planet is close enough to it, it may get energy enough to sustain life... Has he calculated how many years this brown dwarf takes to circle the sun?

[Horn]

Comet Elenin Could Hit Earth!


Comet Elenin was just discovered this past Dec. 2010 by a Russian Astronomer Leonid Elenin. The question is why media hasn’t said anything about it? They have always made a big fuzz in the past about found comets. Is it because it is going to be coming a little too close for comfort and they don’t want people freaking out? Comet Elenin Could Hit Earth. This is a possibility because of the very unstable predictions of the Comet. Preliminary predictions have Comet Elenin coming within 42 million miles of the Earth with a very favorable comet sun angle for observers in the northern hemisphere. This is likely to change somewhat as additional data will tweak the orbit, but as it stands now we will see a spectacular comet in late October or early November 2011. When Comet Elenin first was discovered in December last 2010 it was calculated to pass 8.8 Au (8.8 times the distance of the Sun form us) away. But now these calculations has once changed again. Today the orbital calculation is down to 0.24 Au with a minimum as low as 0.15. But these data is being recalculated all the time and it could get even closer but that depends what it encounters in the Oort belt. Just so you know the Moon is 0.00256 away from us to give you a comparison. We must be aware the this comet could bring enormous amount of debris with it and Earth will pass through the debris trail. This will probably take place around the 6th November 2011 or later. Could this new long period comet be the original story of Nibiru?

http://reinep.wordpress.com/2011/01/18/comet-elenin-could-hit-earth/



The guys interpreting the Mayan calender forgot to add the year between 0 & 1 A.D. therefore 2012 has become 2011.

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

If this thing shows up in the sky with wings this fall, I'm jumping on the Zecharia Sitchin bandwagon..

[Celtic Rogue]

Brown Dwarf? Whats you talkin bout Willis?

http://www.mtv.com/news/photos/c/coleman_gary/coleman_052710/coleman_86219167.jpg

[General of Darkness]

Well that's some scary crap. So is it time for panic sex yet?

[Steal]

I found this a curious article due to the sentence about midway down that I have put in bold type.

Space.com space.com – Fri Feb 18, 5:30 pm ET
A prolific sky-mapping telescope that has spent more than a year scanning the heavens for asteroids, comets and other cosmic objects received its last command today (Feb. 17).

NASA shut down its WISE spacecraft – short for Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer – at 3:00 p.m. EST (2000 UTC) today. The mission's principal investigator, Ned Wright of the University of California in Los Angeles, sent the final command to the now-hibernating spacecraft, according to an update from the WISE mission's official Twitter account.

"The WISE spacecraft will remain in hibernation without ground contacts awaiting possible future use," NASA officials said via Twitter.

WISE launched on Dec. 14, 2009 to begin a 10-month mission to collect data to be stitched together into a composite map of the entire sky. The spacecraft surveyed the cosmos in infrared light, which allowed it to peer through dense layers of dust to capture stunning space photos of previously unseen objects in unprecedented detail.

In addition to spotting asteroids and comets, the $320 million space telescope is designed to detect the faint glow of distant objects, such as strangely cool brown dwarf stars.
Over the course of its mission, WISE scanned the sky 1 1/2 times, taking about 1.8 million images of asteroids, stars and galaxies. The spacecraft also spotted 19 previously unseen comets and more than 33,500 asteroids, including 120 near-Earth objects, which are objects with orbits that pass relatively close to Earth's own orbit around the sun.

In late September 2010, WISE ran out of the coolant needed to chill its infrared detectors.

The observatory then began an extended mission, dubbed the NEOWISE Post-Cryogenic Mission. Without coolant to prevent its instruments from warming up, WISE operated on two of its four detectors, training its eyes on objects within our solar system.

Since the spacecraft and telescope were in good condition prior to mission's end, Wright proposed a three-month extension in order to complete the second half of the observatory's second sky survey. In May 2010, a NASA panel advised against the extension, however, which would have added $6.5 million to the program's price tag.

After WISE's coolant ran out, mission scientists came up with an alternative plan – the NEOWISE mission – to seek out near-Earth asteroids. That mission extension cost substantially less, about $400,000, NASA officials have said

somthin Brown dis way commith (http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20110218/sc_space/nasashutsdownprolificskymappingspacetelescope)

[platinumdude]

It didn't really run out of coolant. They just want to keep the information that they are really looking for on the low low.

[Neuro]

It didn't really run out of coolant. They just want to keep the information that they are really looking for on the low low.
That is what I am reading too. The satellite has enough coolant to do another 3 mths, but they choose not to, not publically anyway...

[undgrd]

How does an object in the dead cold of space possible run out of coolant? It's literally surrounded by coolant.

[keehah]

It still gets hot in the sun.

And how would one transfer heat to space in near vacuum? Infra-red radiation. Yet all the equipment around the detector and lens need to be cooled so that they do not emit this radiation. It is the same frequency the detector is measuring.

Don't expect one can get a big section of the craft as cold as needed with a solid state heat exchanger. Imagine running a compressed gas plant in the vacuum of space. I can see why they just brought a bottle of coolant.

And yes this is also what the top liars would do if they found something most interesting.

Assuming comet, according to this Sott chart its angle will bring more junk to our ring that most others.

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/221672
http://www.sott.net/image/image/s2/53919/large/Elenin_compa.jpg

[Steal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYG5wBxagbk

[Steal]

Interactive site to see 'Elenins' flight path.

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=elenin;orb=1;cov=1;log=0;cad=1#cad

[Steal]

On this scenario slide, I think we are anywhere from 1 to 4, being that or if it IS a brown dwarf with 4 moons, mini constellation .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf3jPtaq9Q4

[Horn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJN7kQmkxmk

[kregener]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yCtH2xUBXg

[Neuro]

Now, as I understand it some claim that this is a brown dwarf star, on it's way to circle the sun, coming as close to earth as 0.23 AU, meaning it will at it's closest be 1/4 of the distance to the sun from earth aprox., the day for this is in the middle of October... As I read up on it it has a speed of about 21 km/s. Which means at the most it is about 350 million kilometers away, this is much closer to earth than Jupiter. As I understand it these brown dwarf stars are at least as big as Jupiter, thus we should be able to see it with our own eyes, without a telescope, probably brighter than Venus. So where is it?

It is impossible that a brown dwarf star will pass earth in the middle of October!

[Ares]

Now, as I understand it some claim that this is a brown dwarf star, on it's way to circle the sun, coming as close to earth as 0.23 AU, meaning it will at it's closest be 1/4 of the distance to the sun from earth aprox., the day for this is in the middle of October... As I read up on it it has a speed of about 21 km/s. Which means at the most it is about 350 million kilometers away, this is much closer to earth than Jupiter. As I understand it these brown dwarf stars are at least as big as Jupiter, thus we should be able to see it with our own eyes, without a telescope, probably brighter than Venus. So where is it?

It is impossible that a brown dwarf star will pass earth in the middle of October!


From what I've read they don't emit any visible light, just infrared.

[big country]

Now, as I understand it some claim that this is a brown dwarf star, on it's way to circle the sun, coming as close to earth as 0.23 AU, meaning it will at it's closest be 1/4 of the distance to the sun from earth aprox., the day for this is in the middle of October... As I read up on it it has a speed of about 21 km/s. Which means at the most it is about 350 million kilometers away, this is much closer to earth than Jupiter. As I understand it these brown dwarf stars are at least as big as Jupiter, thus we should be able to see it with our own eyes, without a telescope, probably brighter than Venus. So where is it?

It is impossible that a brown dwarf star will pass earth in the middle of October!


From what I've read they don't emit any visible light, just infrared.


It would still be reflecting light though right?
Similar to the way our moon doesn't "emit" light yet we can still see it? We can also see venus/mars without telescopes due to the light they reflect. None of those emit any light that I'm aware of?

[Ares]

It would still be reflecting light though right?
Similar to the way our moon doesn't "emit" light yet we can still see it? We can also see venus/mars without telescopes due to the light they reflect. None of those emit any light that I'm aware of?

You are correct, if this "brown dwarf" exist and is at the location some estimate then yeah it should be reflecting light.

[Spectrism]

Debris field.


The stuff that is coming will be used to fulfill this prophecy:

Rev 6:12 And I saw when He opened the sixth seal. And behold, a great earthquake occurred. And the sun became black as sackcloth made of hair; and the moon became as blood;
Rev 6:13 and the stars of the heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree being shaken by a great wind casts its unripe figs.
Rev 6:14 And the heaven departed like a scroll being rolled up. And every mountain and island were moved out of their places.


Rev 8:6 And the seven angels having the seven trumpets prepared themselves, that they might trumpet.
Rev 8:7 And the first angel trumpeted. And hail and fire mixed with blood occurred. And it was cast onto the earth; and the third part of the trees was burned down; and all green grass was burned down.
Rev 8:8 And the second angel trumpeted. And as a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea. And the third part of the sea became blood;
Rev 8:9 and the third part of the creatures having souls died in the sea; and the third part of the ships was destroyed.
Rev 8:10 And the third angel trumpeted. And a great burning star, like a lamp, fell out of the heaven. And it fell onto the third part of the rivers, and onto the springs of waters.
Rev 8:11 And the name of the star is said to be Wormwood. And the third part of the waters became changed into wormwood. And many men died from the waters, because they were bitter.
Rev 8:12 And the fourth angel trumpeted. And the third part of the sun, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars, was struck, that the third part of them might be darkened, and the third part of the day might not appear; and in the same way the night.
Rev 8:13 And I saw, and I heard one angel flying in mid-heaven, saying with a great voice, Woe! Woe! Woe to those dwelling on the earth, from the rest of the voices of the trumpet of the three angels being about to trumpet!

[Horn]

It would still be reflecting light though right?
Similar to the way our moon doesn't "emit" light yet we can still see it? We can also see venus/mars without telescopes due to the light they reflect. None of those emit any light that I'm aware of?

You are correct, if this "brown dwarf" exist and is at the location some estimate then yeah it should be reflecting light.


Unless its position is now on the darkside of the Sun.

And don't even try to explain that away, either.

http://i65.servimg.com/u/f65/15/05/06/01/nibiru10.jpg

[Ares]

It would still be reflecting light though right?
Similar to the way our moon doesn't "emit" light yet we can still see it? We can also see venus/mars without telescopes due to the light they reflect. None of those emit any light that I'm aware of?

You are correct, if this "brown dwarf" exist and is at the location some estimate then yeah it should be reflecting light.


Unless its position is now on the darkside of the Sun.

And don't even try to explain that away, either.

http://i65.servimg.com/u/f65/15/05/06/01/nibiru10.jpg



That's not the current planetary alignment ;D

http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Solar/action?sys=-Sf

[Horn]

That's not the current planetary alignment ;D

http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Solar/action?sys=-Sf


Hey, that's my link!!!

Way I figure it is that the "brown dwarf" is currently conjunct towards Uranus. :o

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Uranus_symbol.svg/120px-Uranus_symbol.svg.png

[Spectrism]

That's not the current planetary alignment ;D

http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Solar/action?sys=-Sf


Hey, that's my link!!!

Way I figure it is that the "brown dwarf" is currently conjunct towards Uranus. :o

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Uranus_symbol.svg/120px-Uranus_symbol.svg.png


So, are we safe if the brown dwarf is driven into Uranus? Won't you be surprised if the brown dwarf is actually coming out of Uranus.

[Neuro]

That's not the current planetary alignment ;D

http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Solar/action?sys=-Sf


Hey, that's my link!!!

Way I figure it is that the "brown dwarf" is currently conjunct towards Uranus. :o

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Uranus_symbol.svg/120px
-Uranus_symbol.svg.png


So, are we safe if the brown dwarf is driven into Uranus? Won't you be surprised if the brown dwarf is actually coming out of Uranus.
Hilarious! ;D

Not even Horn can say anything about that!

[cthulu]

Thankfully we have gold and silver and some food which will save us.

[big country]

Thankfully we have gold and silver and some food which will save us.


If I'm going to die (ok, WHEN I die), having a brown dwarf slam into the planet seems to be a pretty instant painless way to go. I'd rather go that way then to die of starvation.

[mick silver]

back up

[Horn]

Are Governments Suppressing the 23-July-08 Planet X / Nibiru Crop Circle in Avebury?


NOTE: This image was restored by CCC on August 5, 2008 without any explanation for this disappearance. It was re-posted with additional images and a rather elaborate interpretation.

http://yowusa.com/et/2008/et-2008-07a/et-2008-07a.jpg


The Crop Circle Connector web site has long been a leading UK crop circle resource, but a recent, mysterious retraction of what could be a groundbreaking formation depicting the orbit of Planet X / Nibiru now begs the question: Is this the result of government suppression? Are we being prevented from learning about the Planet X / Nibiru Crop Circle that appeared in two parts in Avebury Manor, near Avebury, Wiltshire, UK on 15-July-2008 and 23-July-2008?

Therefore, before leaping to conclusions, let's first examine the parties involved and the chronology of event. Then, we shall present our initial findings on part 1 of this 2-part formation, which indicate a date stamp for the Winter Solstice of 2012 with a planetary alignment that clearly demonstrates that we are in the process of losing the Planet Pluto.

http://yowusa.com/et/2008/et-2008-07a/1.shtml

[Serpo]

NASA denies the discovery of a ninth planet in the Solar System

Two scientists, John Matese and Daniel Whitmire of the University of Louisiana-Lafayette, a decade ago suggested the possibility that a giant planet, four times the size of Earth, which they christened as Tyche, may be hidden in the confines of our Solar System.


According to investigators, the presence of this planet would explain the unusual orbit of some comets that originate in the Oort cloud. However, no one has come up with this mysterious world and when the misunderstandings on the issue, NASA has been forced to deny that one of his ships may have found recently. After Pluto was demoted a few years ago, the planets orbiting the Sun are still eight.

The old story is back to present by such misunderstandings and rumors that spread like wildfire over the Internet. The Independent newspaper said this week that Tyche may have been found by the WISE mission of the U.S. space agency.

Whitmire and Matese, who have always defended the possibility of the existence of Tyche, showed his joy at the discovery possible. Scientists believe it is possible that the infrared telescope has collected data of Tyche, but “if there could be discovered in the next two years.”

The spacecraft responsible for the WISE (Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer) recently announced the discovery of twenty new comets, asteroids over 33,000 unknown outcrop belt between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter, which is more disturbing , 134 new NEOs (near-Earth objects), but nothing of a new planet in the Solar System.

Given the persistent rumors, the story has been repeated in different media, the leaders of WISE have been left with no choice but to post to your Facebook page a disclaimer, which ensures that the discovery of signs of the existence of Tyche simply false. Tyche remains a mystery. If any, would be even larger than Jupiter and its orbit would be 15,000 times farther from the Sun than the Earth.

http://www.liveworldjournal.com/science/nasa-denies-the-discovery-of-a-ninth-planet-in-the-solar-system.html

[Steal]

Sorry have been out of pocket so much latley. With another family member, we have been looking at property in the country, starting about 4 months back. Originally we were just looking at raw land , isolated, heavely wooded , within an 2 hr drive or days walk, if need be and in the 100-130 acre range. Not in a huge rush and wanting to get the biggest bang for the buck. Now we changed it to include being 2,000'+ above sea level ( really narrows a search down ) We are giving in till Mid May to make a decesion. This will increase our drive time to 3 1/2 hours though. Reason for the minor change in plan (original plan being in event of break down of society, need to be isolated and able to farm, etc.) is I have been digging into this climate change that may happen late fall and looking at what has been going on over the past year. If it is indeed going to get real bad, signs should show March/April and will hard to be ignored , to those whom look. Intersting link below. I used a 600' adjusted sea level , due to my current location at 43' above sea level and close to east coast, time to move maybe. Anyone else been taking any of this as a real event potential?

http://maps.google.com/maps/mapplets?moduleurl=http://www.heywhatsthat.com/mapplets/sealevel.xml

[Neuro]

Steal what type of climate change do you expect and why. And what signs would you expect in March/April?

[Steal]

Hard to say. We were planning on this to begin with, so just a minor change going to higher elevation. I think, if what they say is true, we should see , starting in March massive earthquakes and volcanoes coming live. This has already been happening, so I think we may need to look at the level intensity. I have seen sooo much on this but most seems to just be conjecture (sp?) I still find it odd, that out of thousands of amateur astronomers across the globe, no one can find this brown dwarf. I don't know how I missed the Jesse Ventura series on this a year ago. Not that there is any real fact in it, but I have never been fond of coincidences. I really would like to know how much of our taxes has been spent on preparing for the elite in case of an event.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h3dx9baiwE

[Steal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJN7kQmkxmk


What this guy kind of makes sense, with all those programs using the same basic 'space scan' taken many decades ago. Still is curious that out of all the places for this to happen, its the one where earths impending doom is coming from. Or is this actually where a mac daddy of a hoax got a pair of legs from to begin with?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmsYHZzyjcM

[Spectrism]

If the power elite really believed this, that would explain their expedient means for pushing the con game to its extreme. It would all fit if they were not expecting much of the system to survive another 2 years anyway. Why fight to save the dollar or pretend to service long term debt with same value dollars when all of this will soon be destroyed anyway?

This makes PMs less valuable and basic essentials more important.

Having a homestead on a piece of land that has high ground and the ability to build under a significant amount of ground shield will be prized by those in power. The ability to protect a herd of food-producing animals will be priceless.

Rev 6:12 And I saw when He opened the sixth seal. And behold, a great earthquake occurred. And the sun became black as sackcloth made of hair; and the moon became as blood;
Rev 6:13 and the stars of the heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree being shaken by a great wind casts its unripe figs.
Rev 6:14 And the heaven departed like a scroll being rolled up. And every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great ones, and the rich ones, and the commanders, and the powerful ones, and every slave, and every freeman hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains.
Rev 6:16 And "they said to the mountains" and to the rocks, "Fall on us," and hide us from the face of the One sitting on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, Hos. 10:8
Rev 6:17 because the great day of His wrath has come; and who is able to stand?

Those who need to fear the wrath of God will be hiding in caves. Those who are invited to the wedding feast will be taken up.


Rev 8:1 And when He opened the seventh seal, a silence occurred in Heaven, about a half hour.
Rev 8:2 And I saw the seven angels who stood before God, and seven trumpets were given to them.
Rev 8:3 And another angel came and stood on the altar, having a golden censer. And many incenses were given to him, that he should give them with the prayers of all the saints on the golden altar before the throne.
Rev 8:4 And the smoke of the incenses went up with the prayers of the saints out of the hand of the angel before God.
Rev 8:5 And the angel has taken the censer, and has filled it from the fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth; and sounds and thunders and lightnings and earthquakes occurred.
Rev 8:6 And the seven angels having the seven trumpets prepared themselves, that they might trumpet.
Rev 8:7 And the first angel trumpeted. And hail and fire mixed with blood occurred. And it was cast onto the earth; and the third part of the trees was burned down; and all green grass was burned down.
Rev 8:8 And the second angel trumpeted. And as a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea. And the third part of the sea became blood;
Rev 8:9 and the third part of the creatures having souls died in the sea; and the third part of the ships was destroyed.
Rev 8:10 And the third angel trumpeted. And a great burning star, like a lamp, fell out of the heaven. And it fell onto the third part of the rivers, and onto the springs of waters.
Rev 8:11 And the name of the star is said to be Wormwood. And the third part of the waters became changed into wormwood. And many men died from the waters, because they were bitter.
Rev 8:12 And the fourth angel trumpeted. And the third part of the sun, and the third part of the darmoon, and the third part of the stars, was struck, that the third part of them might be darkened, and the third part of the day might not appear; and in the same way the night.


They are trying to make this out to be a scientific thing that was given to the Mayans by ETs thousands of years ago. They will seek to deny and ridicule the One who told us the future from the beginning so that they can keep people from learning the Truth. Let's be careful about the noises that they will use to herd the animals.

[mick silver]

what part of the sky should people be looking into so they could look for this

[mick silver]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSmHWyWx-r4&feature=related

[mick silver]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESt9YkaFe2w&feature=related

[Horn]

What this guy kind of makes sense, with all those programs using the same basic 'space scan' taken many decades ago. Still is curious that out of all the places for this to happen, its the one where earths impending doom is coming from. Or is this actually where a mac daddy of a hoax got a pair of legs from to begin with?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmsYHZzyjcM


Just thought I'd add that,,,, that was a pretty shotty job of debunking...

[Steal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBGfdQk_6cE

[Steal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo1rcKKZ2xI&feature=feedu

[Neuro]

So he says it is either a very small comet, or a cold binary star? ???

Even if it is 3 times the distance of Saturn, a binary star that doesn't emit any visible light by itself, should at least reflect enough light to be among the brightest objects on our night sky, especially since he claims it is not on the opposite side of the sun now...

[mick silver]

what part of the night sky would this be in ?

[mick silver]

would you be able to see a brown dwart with this t scope ..... http://www.meade.com/product_pages/lxd75/lxd75sn_10/lxd75sn_10.php

[Neuro]

what part of the night sky would this be in ?
According to the video it should be to the left of Orion, quite close to Saturn.

[old steel]

Extinction
Level
Event
Nibiru
Is
Near

[Horn]

Extinction
Level
Event
Nibiru
Is
Near



At least we will be cured of all our free time. ;D