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Serpo
18th February 2011, 10:57 PM
The “China Syndrome” Came to New York City on 9/11
From The Anonymous Physicist

Some people may not have not fully grasped the significance, and necessity, of my hypothesis on heat-generating criticality sites at the WTC after 9/11. Some shills have actually, and laughably, attempted to claim thermite could have been been responsible for these high temperatures and molten steel.

Any attempt to have a complete theory of 9/11 must include the WTC demolition on 9/11 itself, and crucially its aftermath of the great hot-spots and molten steel, up to five months afterwards. The latter being supported by irrefutable, numerous eyewitnesses, and photographs and at least one AVIRIS overflight temperature data set. (With the second, long-delayed release of overflight data likely being bogus, as claimed here.) It is risible that a shill physicist claims this photo, of a crane lifting molten steel weeks after 9/11, as “proof” of thermite use on 9/11. Now while thermite, or other conventional explosive, may have been used in some subsidiary capacity on 9/11, my earlier articles have highlighted how only mini-nukes could have accounted for all the phenomena of the 9/11 WTC demolitions. It is not unexpected, but still sickening, to see how a shill physicist has claimed that the molten steel weeks after 9/11 “proves” thermite alone brought down the WTC towers. He HAS to claim that, for he knows well that the real source of this molten steel, weeks later, is nuclear reactions.
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Prophetic cards from "Illuminati" card game

I have stated that only nuclear criticality sites could be the source of heat GENERATION weeks, and months after 9/11. You can find, say on Youtube, numerous videos of thermite being used to melt things, yes, including metal— but no vaporization. Note that the thermite is not being used as an explosive when it is seen melting through a car, e.g. But some of those videos clearly show that after just a few minutes, the molten thermite residue cools off and no longer glows. It is highly likely that any thermite at the WTC on 9/11 would have cooled off within hours. Indeed, I have stated that even the momentary maximum temperature of a nuke’s hypocenter (up to 100 million degrees), is known to cool off relatively quickly. You can ascertain this rapid cooling off in regards to the Trinity Site, or Hiroshima or Nagasaki, or even H-Bomb test sites. The temperatures returned to normal at all these sites relatively quickly.

Now some claim that oxygen starved fires could allow for vastly longer high temperature fires underground at the WTC. These people don’t seem to realize they have just proven the case ONLY for nuclear chain reactions!! Because only nuclear chain reactions release massive heat almost indefinitely, without needing ANY oxygen whatsoever! This is not the case for any conventional (non-nuclear) fire. This “indefinite” massive heat source was the basis for the term “China Syndrome” in regards to a nuclear reactor mishap which, in theory (but not really due to other factors), could have massive indefinite heat leading to a nuclear reactor criticality (core) remnant burning all the way through to China.

This remarkable article on Chernobyl actually states that the China Syndrome occurred at Chernobyl. It says, “‘China Syndrome’ of meltdown had taken place inside the reactor core. Thermal explosion and outbreak of fires in over thirty places were due to high-temperature and falling uranium core fragments on to the roofs of adjacent buildings.” So here we see learn that the nuclear core had exploded into many pieces of— apparently still critically reacting uranium fragments--with their concomitant high temperatures. But this is just the kind of thing I cited in my WTC 9/11 nuclear demolition hypothesis of nukes exploding either other unexploded mini-nukes, or nukes exploding the reactors in the Nuclear Borers.

So perhaps my previous term, “criticality sites” regarding the source of high temperatures and molten steel, weeks and months after 9/11 is too vague. Instead I propose that from now on we think of this aftermath of molten steel, weeks and months after 9/11 as… “The China Syndrome came to New York City on 9/11

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/423/943/9_11_-_First_Nuclear_Attack_on_U.S._Soil.html

Serpo
18th February 2011, 11:00 PM
As I revisited this whole nuke thing after all these years and was mulling over the photos of all those singed and bent vehicles, my friend Connie Smith — a long-time 9/11 researcher some of you may know — dropped me a note reminding me of something I’d completely forgotten about: the fascinating case of EMT Patricia Ondrovic.

Connie reminded me of an interview with Ondrovic, published back in October 2001 (and which I’d read circa ‘04). When I expressed an interest to reread it, she dug up a copy and sent it to me (see attached). Ms Ondrovic’s account is truly ‘bizarre’, and a testament to the fact that there were forces at play on 9/11 that modern technology — indeed, mainstream science — simply cannot explain. Please read the attached PDF doc carefully. It’s one a helluva wake-up call.

As this terrified woman was running pell-mell away from the first collapsing tower — her hair, coat and feet on fire — Ms Ondrovic witnessed vehicles parked along the street spontaneously erupt into flames. She even witnessed an aircraft disappear while in flight: “I saw something in the sky, it was a plane, but it was way out. It looked like it was over Jersey or something, then it wasn’t there anymore. I saw a small fireball, and it was gone. I saw two other planes. One came in one way, and the other came in the other way, and there was a plane in the middle that was way far off in the distance. Then the plane in the middle just disappeared into a little fire ball. It looked like the size of a golf ball from where I could see it. And the other two planes veered off into opposite directions. I just kept on running north.” And she’s got a lot more to say.

Then there’s this other chap Connie knows (“a famous author”) who’d interviewed another woman who had witnessed “people engulfed in some sort of fireball and disintegrating.” Connie just dug up the following note from this person to her, and is checking to see if I may get in touch with him directly.

“I interviewed a Red Cross worker in Dallas whose name escapes me at the moment but I have her report in my files. She told me she was sent to NYC by the Red Cross to help survivors of the WTC. She said the thing that most stuck out in her mind after interviewing dozens of people was the number that told her of looking back and seeing people engulfed in some sort of fireball and disintegrating.

Obviously, a collapsing building cannot produce such an effect. But a mini-nuke shaped charge placed in the basement to blow out the central core columns could. A small nuclear device could also explain the pyroplasmic cloud seen above the WTC, the disintegration and warping of heavy steel beams and the pulverization of so much concrete, not to mention the blood cell cancer now suffered by some of the first responders.”

Folks, this obviously isn’t Nanothermite at work here. I can’t even begin to guess what it could be. DEWs, or some similar ‘exotic’ technology, may not be that farfetched after all? As my old Alaskan buddy from Arkansas would’ve exclaimed, “Wayl, ahd be go to hayl!”



By Jim Marrs [Shirley Hoofard: Author’s interview February, 2005]

Felipe David working for Aramark Corp. tending vending machines in a basement of the North Tower recalled, “That day I was in the basement in sub-level 1 sometime after 8:30am. Everything happened so fast, everything moved so fast. The building started shaking after I heard the explosion below; dust was flying everywhere and all of a sudden it got real hot. I threw myself onto the floor, covered my face because I felt like I was burned. I sat there for a couple of seconds on the floor and felt like I was going to die, saying to myself ‘God, please give me strength.’ When I went in, I told them it was an explosion,” David, with his skin hanging in tatters may have been the person helped to safety by William Rodriguez.



Skin dripping off the body was mentioned by several 9/11 victims. Gamma ray radiation can cause a person to just feel heat, then pain and then the skin will be damaged. The skin may be vaporized, charred or left hanging.

Shirley Hoofard was a 38-year-old Red Cross worker in the Dallas area on 9/11. Hoofard was ordered to New York to begin working with victims and their families. She also was ordered not to reveal any information to the media or the public.

“It was very difficult to deal with,” she recalled. “The only way I got through it was to shut down. I didn’t think or feel. I just did what I did. By the middle of January [2002] I said ‘I have to go home.’”

But she could not get out of her mind what some of the victims told her. “Several victims told me they saw people engulfed in a fireball and disintegrating. One man said he was at work when he heard a loud noise and at the far end of the cubicles he saw a man running toward him with a fireball coming after him. The running man just exploded, flying into pieces…I heard stories like that from people from both towers….I don’t know the physics but at what temperature does a human vaporize?”

http://www.naturalmedicine.com/blogs/wondering/2011/02/18/witnesses-saw-people-vaporized-on-911/



The US Government’s usage of atomic bombs at the WTC, by Ed Ward MD

here.........

http://www.naturalmedicine.com/blogs/wondering/2011/02/18/witnesses-saw-people-vaporized-on-911/





The main problem with the “official” story presented by 9/11 Commission is that their version of “the truth” is not supported by the laws of physics.

and here.....

http://consciouslifenews.com/panel-demolishes-official-911-story-los-angeles/114984/

woodman
19th February 2011, 08:52 AM
We don't know what happened that day, but we do know what didn't happen: The official story.

ShortJohnSilver
19th February 2011, 09:01 AM
We don't know what happened that day, but we do know what didn't happen: The official story.


Exactly , all really that is all you need to know. Once you know someone is lying to you 100%, do you really care?

Just think, 1000s of Americans, mostly young men, died because of Iraq and Afghanistan wars that we now know were bogus.

Antonio
19th February 2011, 09:21 AM
http://www.dkhalezov.com/

his videos on utube are suddenly "private"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZzwyPRgY9o

mick silver
19th February 2011, 12:38 PM
they will hide this part of history as long as they can . but in time it will come out . maybe not in my life time but it all will come out

gunDriller
19th February 2011, 01:02 PM
We don't know what happened that day, but we do know what didn't happen: The official story.


Exactly !

Serpo
19th February 2011, 10:25 PM
http://www.dkhalezov.com/

his videos on utube are suddenly "private"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZzwyPRgY9o



Only Dimitri can testify, not “connect.” When Dimitri tells us that Mossad Operations Chief Mike Harari admitted planning 9/11, it is because Dimitri was there. This is testimony, not conjecture, backed by a willingness to take a lie detector test.

No other 9/11 evidence carries this weight. Science shouldn’t be subjective, but we all know better. After 9/11, the National Institute of Standards produced a lengthy document, thousands of pages, filled with junk science and ludicrous conjecture. The 9/11 Commission went even further than that, although most members now admit such, to their credit.

Khalezov says, “Arrest that man, he did it and I will testify.”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/02/19/gordon-duff-911-and-the-two-stage-khalezov-effect/

Antonio
20th February 2011, 12:20 PM
Serpo, I`m not pushing Khalezov on anyone (just because he is Russian doesn`t mean he is honest like me ;D).


I admit that I sat for 3 hrs watching his vids about a year ago. My mouth was literally wide open.
I can discern certain things being a native Russian speaker that you guys cannot catch.

I know for a fact that this dude is faking having an extremely thick Russian accent. I know that his level of English proficiency doesn`t match the severity of his cartoonish accent. He talks about very complicated matters but in the way we Russians imitate those of us who can`t speak English at all, too lazy to give any attention to the pronunciation, when we wish to make fun of them.

What is his reason for this? I don`t know but this already makes him a liar in my eyes.

My honest 2 copper cents. ???

Serpo
20th February 2011, 12:48 PM
We have had threads on Dimitri in the past and these clips we know about.
Thanks for your insights

This article above seems to be talking about mini nucs going off underneath the building ect from the start where as Dimitri is talking about at the end, so his ideas seem to be different from the article although related.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/conspiracy-theories/911-wtc-nuclear-demolition-dimitri-khalezov-01-of-26/

here is his vid here.....


http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/44972/Dimitri_Khalezov___WTC_Nuclear_Demolition_1_26/

Hatha Sunahara
20th February 2011, 04:40 PM
Serpo, I don't think this qualifies as a nuclear attack on the US. It appears to be more like a 'nuclear fraud'. Perhaps like a businessman who burns down his business to collect the insurance. The government went along with it because they needed an excuse to launch some imperial wars and to pursue their Clash of Civilizations.

Somebody had to come up with the idea. It might have been Harari. Or it may have been the Rockefellers who have had this idea since the towers were built, and pushed the NYC building bureaucracy to insist on a demolition plan. And to approve the one that was submitted. I can't imagine back in 1969 that if anyone submitted a demolition plan in NYC that involved a nuclear explosion that it would be kept under wraps so successfully unless there was some serious support by the ultra elite. They may have selected the main actors, such as Harari and Silverman and Bush and his entire cabinet. And recruited the media owners to concoct a story that would become the official version.

If you look at 911 as a project done by an organization, you would assume that there was some hierarchy that was responsible for the command and control of the operation. Somebody had the overall plan. Somebody organized it. Somebody recruited the actors and secured the resources. Somebody directed the action. Somebody coordinated all the pieces. Somebody controlled it. You can't do something that complicated without a lot of pieces coming together exactly as you want them to. Even down to the detail of the 'eyewitness' shills on the street spouting their scripted 'account' of the event to the TV cameras. This kind of expertise lies in 'Intelligence Agencies' such as the CIA, the Mossad, MI6 and the FSB. It is likely that none of these intelligence agencies were involved, but that their employees with requisite skills participated in a 'privatized' operation'. There is no question that the higher levels of the US Government were involved because FEMA was staging a 'drill' at precisely the time the event occurred in NYC.

What we really need to know is who was on the ad-hoc team that did 911. That includes the planners, the organizers, the staff, the directors, coordinators and controllers. We won't know that until that group reveals itself. They are too powerful to be exposed. The best we can do is to be persistent in expressing our disbelief.

Hatha

Antonio
20th February 2011, 04:58 PM
I stuck my Geiger counter out my Bronx window at about 2pm on 911, it showed about 37 ct/min instead of normal NYC background radiation of 7-16 ct/min range. I wake up late often, I woke up at 1 pm on that day and got a phonecall from a buddy who told me to turn the TV. What I saw on TV looked like a nuclear mushroom cloud. My first thoughts were that this was a coup d`etat and some nuclear shit.

I paid a lot of attention to the comments of the witnesses on TV, they sounded scripted and rehearsed to me. I had major doubts about the official story from the day one.
I was especially sickened by a bunch of hippies who immediately gathered with their guitars and inane songs in Manhattan, saw it on TV on the 1st day. Some bleeding liberal TV whore was commenting about this "spontaneous outpouring of emotions" or some shit like that. Well, I`m a pro musician and they didn`t sound "spontaneous" to me.

Such diabollically subtle details are noticeable to useless artistic types like me and it`s my duty to the society to reveal what I saw and heard.

Serpo
20th February 2011, 05:21 PM
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