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Hillbilly
19th February 2011, 01:25 AM
I just caught my neighbor stealing my firewood. My wood has been getting swiped for the last couple of weeks a few pieces at a time. I put a heavy tarp over it and some big blocks of wood. I heard a block of wood hit the ground and the tarp rustle around. I put on my shirt grabbed my light and ran out there just into to see them running into their back yard and slam the door.

My wife and knocked on the door but they were too scared to come out. I shinned my light through the window and could see them hiding in the dark by their chair.

Now if they needed the wood they should have just asked. I don't have much it's just for emergencies but had they asked they could have had some. On top of this they are some real assholes that have always had loud parties and been very rude to us every chance they get.

:conf:

Low_five
19th February 2011, 01:33 AM
Lol! You shined the light into their house and saw them hiding like animals? I had a bad day, but this story still made me laugh pretty hard.

Mouse
19th February 2011, 01:45 AM
Time to move? Anyone swiping wood from me could do it easily as it's bucked and split all over the damn place but to steal off your stacked up pile, that's something. Any smoke coming out of their chimney? Is it cold outside?

You should explain to them how a typical masonry fireplace actually removes heat from the house and then find a way to sell them a stove?

Why would you involve your wife in this?

I guess maybe you live in one of those states where the rack of a shotgun is criminal "threatening display"

Whatever dude.....

crazychicken
19th February 2011, 01:54 AM
Things to come everywhere?

CC

Bullion_Bob
19th February 2011, 01:56 AM
They're already coming for you...

http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/ob/zombieagility/death_by_zombies.jpg

:o

Serpo
19th February 2011, 02:03 AM
They are just being neighbourly ..... ;D

Hillbilly
19th February 2011, 02:05 AM
It's cold but not bad, I could smell the smoke coming out of their chimney. I went outside by my self but my wife was so pissed she wanted to see what they had to say for themselves and followed me out.





Time to move? Anyone swiping wood from me could do it easily as it's bucked and split all over the damn place but to steal off your stacked up pile, that's something. Any smoke coming out of their chimney? Is it cold outside?

You should explain to them how a typical masonry fireplace actually removes heat from the house and then find a way to sell them a stove?

Why would you involve your wife in this?

I guess maybe you live in one of those states where the rack of a shotgun is criminal "threatening display"

Whatever dude.....

Neuro
19th February 2011, 02:23 AM
Poor things, I think you should build them a nice stack of very dry firewood just next to their wall, together with some crumbled newspaper in between, and then you can help them fixing their porch light electric problem... Be a good neighbor!

Mouse
19th February 2011, 03:01 AM
It's cold but not bad, I could smell the smoke coming out of their chimney. I went outside by my self but my wife was so pissed she wanted to see what they had to say for themselves and followed me out.





Time to move? Anyone swiping wood from me could do it easily as it's bucked and split all over the damn place but to steal off your stacked up pile, that's something. Any smoke coming out of their chimney? Is it cold outside?

You should explain to them how a typical masonry fireplace actually removes heat from the house and then find a way to sell them a stove?

Why would you involve your wife in this?

I guess maybe you live in one of those states where the rack of a shotgun is criminal "threatening display"

Whatever dude.....





I guess we can file this under....."That's straight up crazy stuff, right there"......

My apologies...You still might consider shooting your neighbor though, or at least letting them in on the concept that it is a possibility.

Location, location...my neighbors are all totally cool and I need a scope to see them.

Olmstein
19th February 2011, 03:02 AM
How about a fence?

snapon
19th February 2011, 05:25 AM
nothing worse than a petty thief. I would prosecute them to the full extent.

woodman
19th February 2011, 06:59 AM
Drill a hole in a few and load them with enough powder to scare the hell out of them and make a real mess. Make sure to mark them in some way so you don't grab them by mistake.

JJ.G0ldD0t
19th February 2011, 07:10 AM
Drill a hole in a few and load them with enough powder to scare the hell out of them and make a real mess. Make sure to mark them in some way so you don't grab them by mistake.


this...

although they'd be hitting the height of stupidity to try that crap again.

tekrunner
19th February 2011, 07:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFpVYSsc57g



Clearly some sort of auto targeting full auto weapon is in order.

Plastic
19th February 2011, 07:22 AM
Right now, pre-shtf, I'd personally deliver them the same amount they have taken from me.

Ash_Williams
19th February 2011, 07:25 AM
I'm sure there's something you could have hidden in the logs that would stink or put out thick colored smoke when burned.

Plastic
19th February 2011, 07:41 AM
I'm sure there's something you could have hidden in the logs that would stink or put out thick colored smoke when burned.



Drill out the center, fill it with sulphur ( or whatever ;D ), then plug the hole.

JJ.G0ldD0t
19th February 2011, 07:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFpVYSsc57g



Clearly some sort of auto targeting full auto weapon is in order.


those systems are only 300bux...


Worth it I'd say

Book
19th February 2011, 08:01 AM
My wife and knocked on the door but they were too scared to come out. I shinned my light through the window and could see them hiding in the dark by their chair.



http://www.opendoorpcg.com/images/Jesus_knocking_at_door.jpg

Stack a full cord next to their front door so they don't have to walk so far. Don't be a jew.

:oo-->

Twisted Titan
19th February 2011, 08:09 AM
I'm sure there's something you could have hidden in the logs that would stink or put out thick colored smoke when burned.





Drill out the center, fill it with sulphur ( or whatever ;D ), then plug the hole.


Yep that sounds about right but whatever you plan to (Spike the wood or just let it ride)\

DONT CALL THE COPS

They love to arrest/harrass or stalk the people who are just rightfully defending their property.

And if you going spike it with something use this........


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyVD8V0016w

T

Publico Pro Se
19th February 2011, 08:14 AM
Stack a full cord next to their front door so they don't have to walk so far. Don't be a jew.

:oo-->




lol rotflol

I'd go with the fence idea or get a game trail camera. With the camera it will take photos of them poaching your firewood. Print out each photo, place said said photos in a photo album labeled "The Smith Family Criminal Organization." Perhaps, in the front couple of page you use a flow chart as to their chain of command. Then place the the album on top of the suggested "I'm not a jew" wood pile at their front door.

Book
19th February 2011, 08:26 AM
Now if they needed the wood they should have just asked.



http://thesocietypages.org/pubcrim/files/2009/03/love_thy_neighbor.jpg

Don't be a jew.

:oo-->

kregener
19th February 2011, 08:27 AM
http://alamoammo.com/cart/images/ammo_products/rock.salt.2.JPG

Ponce
19th February 2011, 08:43 AM
Book has "almost" the right idea......put some wood at their front door with a note and tell them that if they need help that you will help them cut down some trees for a fire...........but of course the tree won't be dry so that they will have a smoky fire........a smoky fire is better than no fire at all.

k-os
19th February 2011, 08:49 AM
http://alamoammo.com/cart/images/ammo_products/rock.salt.2.JPG


OK, that's a shotgun shell with salt in it, right? Because at first I thought it was crack. Crack didn't seem like a good idea to me. ;)

I think it's sad that a neighbor is stealing from a neighbor. It's hard for me to imagine anyone over 14 that would think it is remotely acceptable to steal from a neighbor. It indicates severe lack of forethought. They are really desperate or they are really jerks. Sad, either way.

sweetdeems
19th February 2011, 09:27 AM
Now if they needed the wood they should have just asked.



http://thesocietypages.org/pubcrim/files/2009/03/love_thy_neighbor.jpg

Don't be a jew.

:oo-->



I don't agree with them stealing, obviously, buuuuuuuuuuut this is kinda appropriate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkodUJ63X_U

Book
19th February 2011, 09:57 AM
On top of this they are some real assholes that have always had loud parties and been very rude to us every chance they get.



http://www.sunsetparkcc.org/main_wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/LoveThyNeighbor_516.jpg

:oo-->

mightymanx
19th February 2011, 10:09 AM
Club them like baby seals.

or roll over and make it the states problem.

Here is an Idea:

You could call Book have him don his HOA badge and cape and then he could go all Statist on them.

Cobalt
19th February 2011, 10:10 AM
If your neighbors are willing to steal firewood, they probably wouldn't pass an opportunity to steal other stuff

StreetsOfGold
19th February 2011, 10:21 AM
Never underestimate the power of the Word of God.
I put this verse up on my door years ago (my apartment dwelling days) when I had a neighbor of dubious background intent on stealing.

Proverbs 24:15 Lay not wait, O wicked man, against the dwelling of the righteous; spoil not his resting place:

Libertytree
19th February 2011, 10:25 AM
Not that you'll actually get paid but send him a bill for the amount of firewood X 2 and that you have kindling for sale at an honest price too.

nunaem
19th February 2011, 10:30 AM
Go on their roof, block their chimney and smoke 'em out like on True Grit.

MNeagle
19th February 2011, 10:33 AM
Good fences make good neighbors.

Time to secure/move your firewood.

JDRock
19th February 2011, 10:35 AM
My wife and knocked on the door but they were too scared to come out.
:conf:


how brave of you shlomo :oo-->

Antonio
19th February 2011, 10:38 AM
http://alamoammo.com/cart/images/ammo_products/rock.salt.2.JPG


OK, that's a shotgun shell with salt in it, right? Because at first I thought it was crack. Crack didn't seem like a good idea to me. ;)

I think it's sad that a neighbor is stealing from a neighbor. It's hard for me to imagine anyone over 14 that would think it is remotely acceptable to steal from a neighbor. It indicates severe lack of forethought. They are really desperate or they are really jerks. Sad, either way.


You cracked me up. You clearly see rock salt but think for a sec it`s crack? Lets see now, when I finished a major coke run 15 years ago
( in a hospital, I may add), for about a month after whenever I saw ANYTHING white like a white table, all I could think of was coke ;)

PS. Bro, those neighbours of yours, do you know them personally or you have no idea what kind of people they are?
The only excuse for their behaviour would be if they were starving to death and half their kids were already dead from freezing.

freespirit
19th February 2011, 10:45 AM
although loading up a couple of logs with sulphur or whatever sounds like a good idea, they would probably sue you for damages, and what if their house caught fire?

build a small shed for your wood, you can build an 8x12 shed pretty cheap, put a good lock on it, and set some signs up like this one...

lapis
19th February 2011, 10:58 AM
Maybe it's time to get a dog? Although mine is the gentlest, sweetest dog whenever there's strangers walking around outside she has a nice authoritative bark. I've noticed that we have very few door-to-door people peddling goods anymore, I guess they tell their buddies?

TheNocturnalEgyptian
19th February 2011, 12:12 PM
although loading up a couple of logs with sulphur or whatever sounds like a good idea, they would probably sue you for damages, and what if their house caught fire?

build a small shed for your wood, you can build an 8x12 shed pretty cheap, put a good lock on it, and set some signs up like this one...


Tresspassing is something that cattle and other animals do and "No Tresspassing" signs are not legally binding against humans under the common law.


Sign should read:


PRIVATE PROPERTY FOR PRIVATE USE, NO TRESSPASS.

mick silver
19th February 2011, 12:16 PM
were was your gun ...............

k-os
19th February 2011, 12:18 PM
You cracked me up. You clearly see rock salt but think for a sec it`s crack? Lets see now, when I finished a major coke run 15 years ago
( in a hospital, I may add), for about a month after whenever I saw ANYTHING white like a white table, all I could think of was coke ;)


So because you are a filthy drug addict, you falsely see others as filthy drug addicts? Got it.

kregener
19th February 2011, 12:24 PM
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/Kregener/No_Trespassing.jpg

Hillbilly
19th February 2011, 12:28 PM
I'm going to be getting a camera and if it happens again print out the pics and circulate them through the neighborhood. I'm sure they would not hesitate to help themselves to whatever else too. They are total low lives.

mick silver
19th February 2011, 12:41 PM
dam i am glad i have no houses close to me no more . you can never know what people like this will do . if there this low what else are they doing when you are gone .

tater
19th February 2011, 12:45 PM
You need a good dog.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fila_Brasileiro

...The Fila Brasileiro is an excellent estate guardian. It does not hide its dislike towards strangers, but these dogs are not disqualified from the show ring for showing aggression to the judges. Such aversion is instinctive in Filas, so much so that the Brazilian breed standard advises judges not to touch the dog. However, the FCI standard allows for disqualification of excessively aggressive dogs, mainly when the owner doesn't have enough control to show them in public areas. The breed is renowned for their faithfulness to family and friends, but this is not a breed for everyone. The Fila needs a confident, experienced, savvy owner who is aware of the breed's innate tendencies. Filas are not well suited to busy household which entertain many guests, as they do not interact well with strangers. The Fila is a natural guardian breed.

Filas bond strongly with their immediate families and show extreme loyalty and protectiveness towards them. They live to protect their loved ones, including children and other pets. Very few will accept strangers. Many Filas will never tolerate any stranger. Despite their aversion towards strangers they are excellent family dogs, devoted to the children in their family...

Hillbilly
19th February 2011, 12:55 PM
if there this low what else are they doing when you are gone .


My thoughts exactly.








You need a good dog.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fila_Brasileiro

...The Fila Brasileiro is an excellent estate guardian. It does not hide its dislike towards strangers, but these dogs are not disqualified from the show ring for showing aggression to the judges. Such aversion is instinctive in Filas, so much so that the Brazilian breed standard advises judges not to touch the dog. However, the FCI standard allows for disqualification of excessively aggressive dogs, mainly when the owner doesn't have enough control to show them in public areas. The breed is renowned for their faithfulness to family and friends, but this is not a breed for everyone. The Fila needs a confident, experienced, savvy owner who is aware of the breed's innate tendencies. Filas are not well suited to busy household which entertain many guests, as they do not interact well with strangers. The Fila is a natural guardian breed.

Filas bond strongly with their immediate families and show extreme loyalty and protectiveness towards them. They live to protect their loved ones, including children and other pets. Very few will accept strangers. Many Filas will never tolerate any stranger. Despite their aversion towards strangers they are excellent family dogs, devoted to the children in their family...





I have never heard of that dog before but they sound like a great breed that i need to look into.

Thanks

gunDriller
19th February 2011, 01:06 PM
you could always put out a special "firewood for neighbors" supply ... with FREE TINDER ... and use nice dry poison oak for the tinder.

i've been learning ALL ABOUT winter poison oak this last week.

willie pete
19th February 2011, 01:21 PM
that was my first thought, what will it be next time? ...maybe they'll decide to go inside when your away, or maybe when your coming home, your house is on fire

Hillbilly
19th February 2011, 04:07 PM
that was my first thought, what will it be next time? ...maybe they'll decide to go inside when your away, or maybe when your coming home, your house is on fire


Yep, that's why I'm not treating this lightly. If they would do that what else would they do? they are proven them selves to be a bunch of immoral bastards already this is just the frosting on the cake.

oldmansmith
19th February 2011, 05:11 PM
That sucks Hillbilly. I am friendly with my neighbours, and although they are not preppers one of them is well armed and overall they are an asset. We keep an eye on each other's properties.

Book
19th February 2011, 05:27 PM
The only excuse for their behaviour would be if they were starving to death and half their kids were already dead from freezing.



Could be heroin addicts.

:oo-->

Book
19th February 2011, 05:33 PM
Now if they needed the wood they should have just asked.



:oo-->




I have prostatitis. I'm on my 3rd course of anti biotics. I have really bad reactions to cipro so I'm trying to avoid than one. I started taking Colloidal Silver 18ppm twice daily 3 days ago. That seemed to help then it got a lot worse today.



Maybe your neighbors will massage your prostate for a few firewood logs if you ask them nicely.

sunshine05
19th February 2011, 05:44 PM
You need a good dog.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fila_Brasileiro

...The Fila Brasileiro is an excellent estate guardian. It does not hide its dislike towards strangers, but these dogs are not disqualified from the show ring for showing aggression to the judges. Such aversion is instinctive in Filas, so much so that the Brazilian breed standard advises judges not to touch the dog. However, the FCI standard allows for disqualification of excessively aggressive dogs, mainly when the owner doesn't have enough control to show them in public areas. The breed is renowned for their faithfulness to family and friends, but this is not a breed for everyone. The Fila needs a confident, experienced, savvy owner who is aware of the breed's innate tendencies. Filas are not well suited to busy household which entertain many guests, as they do not interact well with strangers. The Fila is a natural guardian breed.

Filas bond strongly with their immediate families and show extreme loyalty and protectiveness towards them. They live to protect their loved ones, including children and other pets. Very few will accept strangers. Many Filas will never tolerate any stranger. Despite their aversion towards strangers they are excellent family dogs, devoted to the children in their family...




This sounds like my American Eskimo! She is great with the family but *hates* everyone else and barks like crazy when anyone tries to come in this house.


The American Eskimo Dog was originally bred to guard people and property and, therefore, is territorial by nature and a valiant watchdog. They are not considered an aggressive breed. But, due to the breed's watchdog history, American Eskimos are generally quite vocal, barking at any stranger who comes within close proximity to their owners or their owner's territory.

Antonio
19th February 2011, 05:52 PM
that was my first thought, what will it be next time? ...maybe they'll decide to go inside when your away, or maybe when your coming home, your house is on fire


Yep, that's why I'm not treating this lightly. If they would do that what else would they do? they are proven them selves to be a bunch of immoral bastards already this is just the frosting on the cake.


Since we have established that these creatures are not decent people on the verge of starvation and death from hypothermia and are common lowlives, treat them accordingly.

tater
19th February 2011, 06:02 PM
You need a good dog.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fila_Brasileiro

...The Fila Brasileiro is an excellent estate guardian. It does not hide its dislike towards strangers, but these dogs are not disqualified from the show ring for showing aggression to the judges. Such aversion is instinctive in Filas, so much so that the Brazilian breed standard advises judges not to touch the dog. However, the FCI standard allows for disqualification of excessively aggressive dogs, mainly when the owner doesn't have enough control to show them in public areas. The breed is renowned for their faithfulness to family and friends, but this is not a breed for everyone. The Fila needs a confident, experienced, savvy owner who is aware of the breed's innate tendencies. Filas are not well suited to busy household which entertain many guests, as they do not interact well with strangers. The Fila is a natural guardian breed.

Filas bond strongly with their immediate families and show extreme loyalty and protectiveness towards them. They live to protect their loved ones, including children and other pets. Very few will accept strangers. Many Filas will never tolerate any stranger. Despite their aversion towards strangers they are excellent family dogs, devoted to the children in their family...




This sounds like my American Eskimo! She is great with the family but *hates* everyone else and barks like crazy when anyone tries to come in this house.


The American Eskimo Dog was originally bred to guard people and property and, therefore, is territorial by nature and a valiant watchdog. They are not considered an aggressive breed. But, due to the breed's watchdog history, American Eskimos are generally quite vocal, barking at any stranger who comes within close proximity to their owners or their owner's territory.


I had to google. Those are georgous dogs. My girls are about 130 and 120 lbs. You wouldn't believe it by looking at them but they extremely are agile and athletic. Serious as heart attacks and meaning business when around strangers. They should be secured and not running loose however.

StreetsOfGold
19th February 2011, 06:36 PM
although loading up a couple of logs with sulphur or whatever sounds like a good idea, they would probably sue you for damages, and what if their house caught fire?

build a small shed for your wood, you can build an 8x12 shed pretty cheap, put a good lock on it, and set some signs up like this one...


That reminds me of the sign that says:

If you are found here at night, you will be found here in the morning.

Cobalt
19th February 2011, 07:17 PM
You need a good dog.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fila_Brasileiro

...The Fila Brasileiro is an excellent estate guardian. It does not hide its dislike towards strangers, but these dogs are not disqualified from the show ring for showing aggression to the judges. Such aversion is instinctive in Filas, so much so that the Brazilian breed standard advises judges not to touch the dog. However, the FCI standard allows for disqualification of excessively aggressive dogs, mainly when the owner doesn't have enough control to show them in public areas. The breed is renowned for their faithfulness to family and friends, but this is not a breed for everyone. The Fila needs a confident, experienced, savvy owner who is aware of the breed's innate tendencies. Filas are not well suited to busy household which entertain many guests, as they do not interact well with strangers. The Fila is a natural guardian breed.

Filas bond strongly with their immediate families and show extreme loyalty and protectiveness towards them. They live to protect their loved ones, including children and other pets. Very few will accept strangers. Many Filas will never tolerate any stranger. Despite their aversion towards strangers they are excellent family dogs, devoted to the children in their family...




Good dog but be prepared for slobber all over the place, I'm not talking just a little drool either

Tumbleweed
19th February 2011, 07:27 PM
Hillbilly you're lucky your neighbor is just stealing a little firewood. The guy in this video has a real problem with his neighbors. Just watch this. Ha!Ha!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--XjOQy6arQ

tater
19th February 2011, 07:32 PM
You need a good dog.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fila_Brasileiro

...The Fila Brasileiro is an excellent estate guardian. It does not hide its dislike towards strangers, but these dogs are not disqualified from the show ring for showing aggression to the judges. Such aversion is instinctive in Filas, so much so that the Brazilian breed standard advises judges not to touch the dog. However, the FCI standard allows for disqualification of excessively aggressive dogs, mainly when the owner doesn't have enough control to show them in public areas. The breed is renowned for their faithfulness to family and friends, but this is not a breed for everyone. The Fila needs a confident, experienced, savvy owner who is aware of the breed's innate tendencies. Filas are not well suited to busy household which entertain many guests, as they do not interact well with strangers. The Fila is a natural guardian breed.

Filas bond strongly with their immediate families and show extreme loyalty and protectiveness towards them. They live to protect their loved ones, including children and other pets. Very few will accept strangers. Many Filas will never tolerate any stranger. Despite their aversion towards strangers they are excellent family dogs, devoted to the children in their family...




Good dog but be prepared for slobber all over the place, I'm not talking just a little drool either


You must own one ;D. You speak the truth, it's like getting slimed. Oh and the snoring, it's deafening.

tater
19th February 2011, 07:37 PM
Hillbilly you're lucky your neighbor is just stealing a little firewood. The guy in this video has a real problem with his neighbors. Just watch this. Ha!Ha!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--XjOQy6arQ


Sasquatch Squalor :ROFL: I gotta get some more dogs...

Publico Pro Se
19th February 2011, 08:09 PM
I was speaking with several associates about your problem hillbilly and they've come to the conclusion you got to fight fire with fire, so to speak. Now it will cost you a couple of grand up front but the return on your investment is about a year, give or take.

First, buy and install a nice cheap solar panel array and a windmill and tie them in into the grid so that your electric company pays you when your meter is running backwards. Next, send your neighbors a "winning" gift certificate to a hotel about 2 - 3 hours away valid only on a specific weekend. Rent a ditch-witch and be on the ready when your neighbors use their hotel gift certificate. You might want some friends to help, maybe have a bbq for them after work is done. Run a 220 volt line (instead of a 120) from their electric panel (be sure to use a dedicated breaker) to your solar/windmill electric meter. Now after you tie their electricity to your meter you'll start getting checks from the electric company every month instead of having to send them one. And the nice thing about this plan it's energy efficient and 24/7/365 you have the satisfaction of knowing whatever amount of firewood they may pinch from you they're helping the solve the energy problem.

k-os
19th February 2011, 08:12 PM
I was speaking with several associates about your problem hillbilly and they've come to the conclusion you got to fight fire with fire, so to speak. Now it will cost you a couple of grand up front but the return on your investment is about a year, give or take.

First, buy and install a nice cheap solar panel array and a windmill and tie them in into the grid so that your electric company pays you when your meter is running backwards. Next, send your neighbors a "winning" gift certificate to a hotel about 2 - 3 hours away valid only on a specific weekend. Rent a ditch-witch and be on the ready when your neighbors use their hotel gift certificate. You might want some friends to help, maybe have a bbq for them after work is done. Run a 220 volt line (instead of a 120) from their electric panel (be sure to use a dedicated breaker) to your solar/windmill electric meter. Now after you tie their electricity to your meter you'll start getting checks from the electric company every month instead of having to send them one. And the nice thing about this plan it's energy efficient and 24/7/365 you have the satisfaction of knowing whatever amount of firewood they may pinch from you they're helping the solve the energy problem.


That's a very creative solution! I wouldn't recommend it, but it's creative!

Publico Pro Se
19th February 2011, 09:24 PM
I was speaking with several associates about your problem hillbilly and they've come to the conclusion you got to fight fire with fire, so to speak. Now it will cost you a couple of grand up front but the return on your investment is about a year, give or take.

First, buy and install a nice cheap solar panel array and a windmill and tie them in into the grid so that your electric company pays you when your meter is running backwards. Next, send your neighbors a "winning" gift certificate to a hotel about 2 - 3 hours away valid only on a specific weekend. Rent a ditch-witch and be on the ready when your neighbors use their hotel gift certificate. You might want some friends to help, maybe have a bbq for them after work is done. Run a 220 volt line (instead of a 120) from their electric panel (be sure to use a dedicated breaker) to your solar/windmill electric meter. Now after you tie their electricity to your meter you'll start getting checks from the electric company every month instead of having to send them one. And the nice thing about this plan it's energy efficient and 24/7/365 you have the satisfaction of knowing whatever amount of firewood they may pinch from you they're helping the solve the energy problem.


That's a very creative solution! I wouldn't recommend it, but it's creative!


Well, the other idea we came up with is a variant of an idea old man told me years ago. First, and hillybilly can't be like Saul with this one (trust me there's a joke in there) is win several million dollars in one of them numbers games many states run. Then after claiming the millions buy a house in a better neighborhood. Now most people would up and sell the house with the firewood pinching neighbors. Wrong! Title the house over to a charity set up with some of the winnings. Then turn the old house with the firewood poaching neighbors into a prisoner halfway house. Now hillybilly gets a nice tax deduction for the old house and the satisfaction of knowing he's helping out those less fortunate and who may have picked up a bad habit here and there along the way. (Hillybilly be sure to review the psychological file of all prisoners to be released into the old house - you don't want one who would freak-out over some missing firewood and go on a homicidal rage. Just a suggestion.)

drafter
19th February 2011, 09:28 PM
Drill hole, pack with M80's, fill hole with patch of wood ;D

Hillbilly
19th February 2011, 09:30 PM
Just got home tonight and found a $5.00 Grocery Story type bundles of Firewood on the front porch. They have stolen over 50 Dollars worth of wood over the last month or so, but I guess it's a start.

Libertytree
19th February 2011, 09:42 PM
Now send him a $45 bill! ;D

Mouse
19th February 2011, 11:03 PM
Take it off your front porch and put it on his with a note "you need it worse than I do".

One of my neighbors is really mellow. He leaves his door open half the time when he's out working. I asked him if he worries about getting robbed and he replied "If they are going to take what I have, surely they need it worse than I do, so they can take it if they must."

That's some seriously childish behavior on their part, like kids playing a prank and getting caught.

Olmstein
20th February 2011, 01:06 AM
Maybe your neighbors will massage your prostate for a few firewood logs if you ask them nicely.


In the context of this thread, that statement is pretty funny. Taken out of context, say, in a sig line, it's hilariously absurd.

etc
20th February 2011, 01:14 AM
If your neighbors are willing to steal firewood, they probably wouldn't pass an opportunity to steal other stuff


Right. Some of the quotes above are incredibly naive. You cannot appease some people no matter what they do. They more you give them, the more they will hate you.

I had a neighbor like that once. Single mom with two kids. I played the role of "helping out" for about 2 years. Gave her rides to places (Broken car for years), fixing things, etc. Typical NJ ghetto transplant.

In the end she ended up stealing from my garden, I moved out for a while, she stole all the lawn furniture.

It doesn't matter what you do with your neighbors, they will not be appeased and will still find a way to steal something once you have to leave for a few days/weeks. You cannot reason with unreasonable people who are beyond help.
Their problem is not firewood or money, their problem is responsibility. By giving them stuff you would be acting as the enabler. I have done this for years only to hit a dead-end.

Book
20th February 2011, 03:26 AM
Maybe your neighbors will massage your prostate for a few firewood logs if you ask them nicely.



In the context of this thread, that statement is pretty funny. Taken out of context, say, in a sig line, it's hilariously absurd.



http://gold-silver.us/forum/health-and-fitness/prostatitis-i-need-your-advice/

I'm just going for that sardonic observer thingie. I'm struck by just how fast everyone here appears to accept the automatic demonization of the neighbor, hearing only one side of this "story". The OP acts like the neighbor is North Korea with no diplomatic communications. Never once had a real get-to-know conversation with his next door neighbor??? WTSHTF our next door neighbor will be essential (http://gold-silver.us/forum/the-worlds-financial-collapse/dmitri-orlov-video-well-worth-watching-!!!/) to our survival. Defaming and slandering the next door neighbor on GSUS solves nothing. I want to hear the next door neighbor's side of this "story".

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Book
20th February 2011, 03:53 AM
Obama defends cuts to home heating aid program

February 15, 2011

By Michael J. Bailey, Globe Staff

President Obama today defended his plan to cut by half the home energy assistance program, which tens of thousands of New Englanders rely on to help pay their home heating bills.

"On the LIHEAP program, the home heating assistance program, we doubled the home heating assistance program when I first came into office in part because there was a huge energy spike, and so folks, if we just kept it at the same level, folks would have been in real trouble,'' Obama said at a press conference, in response to a question about unpopular cuts in his newly released budget proposal. "Energy prices have now gone down but the cost of the program has stayed the same. So what we've said is let's go back to a more sustainable level.''

Funding for the program had been boosted to $5.1 billion for this fiscal year, but House Republicans are seeking immediate cuts, before all the money is disbursed. In the president's budget for the next fiscal year, the money allocated would be cut to $2.6 billion. Both efforts to pare the program have been denounced by Bay State legislators.

US Representative Edward Markey, a Malden Democrat, has been the Democrats point person on GOP efforts to cut at least $400 million from the program this year. He is offering an amendment to restore proposed cuts.

“Cutting off funds for this program now means that millions of families could have their heating cut off,” said Markey last week. “These families would be forced to decide once again between heating and eating.”

Both Republican Scott Brown and Democrat John F. Kerry in the Senate have urged Obama to reconsider cuts next year.

At the press conference today, Obama said his administration would be open to adding money to the program as needed.

"If it turns out that, once again, you see a huge energy spike, then we can revisit it, but let's not just assume because it's at a $5 billion level that each year we're going to sustain it at a $5 billion level regardless of what's happening on the energy front," he said. "Now, that doesn't mean that, you know, these aren't still tough cuts. Because they're always more people who could use some help across the country than we have resources. And so it's still a tough decision, and I understand people's frustrations with some of these decisions."

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2011/02/obama_defends_c.html

:oo--> what do you expect from 20% unemployment?

tater
20th February 2011, 06:33 AM
The only excuse for their behaviour would be if they were starving to death and half their kids were already dead from freezing.



Could be heroin addicts.

:oo-->


I posted this one in the music thread for Antonio. Probably more appropriate here.

Are there kids living with the family next door?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl9ZkYViEIs

kregener
20th February 2011, 09:02 AM
In need? I will give you firewood, or we can cut a bunch together and split it up.

Steal it from me? Rock salt....to start.

Camp Bassfish
20th February 2011, 09:07 AM
OHL- got a stick of butter, some flour, chocolate chips I can borr.... Ahh hell, just make me some cookies, I'll be in your pool. :-)

etc
20th February 2011, 09:43 AM
I expect this to get a lot worse, and common.

Here in DC area, it doesn't happen yet with firewood. (Mostly GPS and catalytic converter theft).

But firewood here is very expensive. The OP sounds like he is in some rural, more or less, area. I imagine a pickup truck load probably runs 50 FRNs. Here a cord goes for between 200 and up to 280 FRNs. At these prices, you can see how it can get stolen. I bought 3 cords this winter at 200/cord, thought I got a good deal but none of it turned out to be seasoned. I put a cord outside to dry. I totally would not be surprised to see it gone one day.

As the economics deteriorate, sheep will move onto petty crimes they would have never thought about before. Firewood outside is a "low hanging fruit".

Cobalt
20th February 2011, 09:46 AM
Just got home tonight and found a $5.00 Grocery Story type bundles of Firewood on the front porch. They have stolen over 50 Dollars worth of wood over the last month or so, but I guess it's a start.




Not much of a start.

Only after they were caught red handed are they willing too act like they were borrowing it and to top it off they are now they are adding insult to injury because they think you don't know how much they have borrowed stolen

SLV^GLD
20th February 2011, 10:00 AM
You cracked me up. You clearly see rock salt but think for a sec it`s crack? Lets see now, when I finished a major coke run 15 years ago
( in a hospital, I may add), for about a month after whenever I saw ANYTHING white like a white table, all I could think of was coke ;)


So because you are a filthy drug addict, you falsely see others as filthy drug addicts? Got it.
A wise woman once told me that we do not see people as they are but we see people as we are.

StackerKen
20th February 2011, 10:03 AM
OHL- got a stick of butter, some flour, chocolate chips I can borr.... Ahh hell, just make me some cookies, I'll be in your pool. :-)

:ROFL:


Howdy folks

Great Thread! Great posts too.

Lots of good stuff in this thread, I had to sign in to post, cause bassfish cracked me up

This is a tuff one...I'm not exactly sure, How I would deal with a thieving Neighbor ???

No one like's a thief....but they are your neighbor .

There are certainly a lot of factors that come into play :dunno

AOW
20th February 2011, 10:10 AM
I'm a wood scavenger and I pick up wood wherever I can. I won't steal from somebody's pile but I must admit, the neighbor that had a couple of cords of madrona firewood delivered into a pile in his driveway just to let it sit month after month had me thinking about it.

mightymanx
20th February 2011, 10:28 AM
There is a reason rustling cattle and stealing horses was punishable by death back in the day.

Book
20th February 2011, 11:12 AM
Just got home tonight and found a $5.00 Grocery Story type bundles of Firewood on the front porch.



http://cache2.allpostersimages.com/p/LRG/15/1555/ZN9DD00Z/posters/my-name-is-earl.jpg

Case closed or will you be making this thread into a weekly series?

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/450swyu80297.gif

:D

etc
20th February 2011, 11:26 AM
Unless they restore exactly what they took, I would press charges. make a big fuss about it.

I made that mistake of being silent about a similar neighbor and she took advantage of me to the maximum. "I am a poor helpless woman stuck here in the rural woods with 2 kids".
I planted some tomatoes for her kids, she did not allow them to water them. Would go to local Chimart and load up the cart so full that things would fall out, all paid with food stamps.
That wasn't enough and she would lift things from my garden, in secret. Her kids told me. I spent a time digging it up and planting it.

These people are either residents from some ghetto or poor white trash. You have to be firm and show them the limits but at the same time, be careful as they can do you a lot of damage. For example turn you in if they see something going on.
You have to manage neighbors very carefully this way.
Best thing to do is to stay away from them as far as possible. Cannot be friends with poor white trailer trash.

Libertytree
20th February 2011, 11:54 AM
This is a very trivial analogy but I think it shows the general mindset of a great deal of people.

I use a liquor box as a stool and it sits just outside for when I take a smoke break. We also put the other excess boxes out there too for whoever might want them. So, in bold magic marker I write DON'T TAKE on my sittin' box and keep it separated from the others. But people read it and still try and take off with it, they don't know I can see them as they look around. I love seeing their reaction when my deep sharp voice gets their attention. "Can't you read!? or do you just like stealin?"

Hillbilly
20th February 2011, 02:27 PM
If your neighbors are willing to steal firewood, they probably wouldn't pass an opportunity to steal other stuff


Right. Some of the quotes above are incredibly naive. You cannot appease some people no matter what they do. They more you give them, the more they will hate you.

I had a neighbor like that once. Single mom with two kids. I played the role of "helping out" for about 2 years. Gave her rides to places (Broken car for years), fixing things, etc. Typical NJ ghetto transplant.

In the end she ended up stealing from my garden, I moved out for a while, she stole all the lawn furniture.

It doesn't matter what you do with your neighbors, they will not be appeased and will still find a way to steal something once you have to leave for a few days/weeks. You cannot reason with unreasonable people who are beyond help.
Their problem is not firewood or money, their problem is responsibility. By giving them stuff you would be acting as the enabler. I have done this for years only to hit a dead-end.



My thoughts exactly.

Thanks

mick silver
20th February 2011, 03:09 PM
i dont have no one that lives that close to me but why not build a wood shed . i have one it nice to keep your wood in

PatColo
20th February 2011, 03:30 PM
build a small shed for your wood, you can build an 8x12 shed pretty cheap, put a good lock on it, and set some signs up like this one...



It would be perfect if Hillbilly could lock it up in some sort of truck, a box truck of some sort perhaps, one which didn't have much need in the winter.

Something like this would be fabluous:


http://www.ice-cream-truck-rental.com/images/ice_cream_truck.jpeg

NOOB
20th February 2011, 03:36 PM
build a small shed for your wood, you can build an 8x12 shed pretty cheap, put a good lock on it, and set some signs up like this one...



It would be perfect if Hillbilly could lock it up in some sort of truck, a box truck of some sort perhaps, one which didn't have much need in the winter.

Something like this would be fabluous:


http://www.eatmedaily.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/big-gay-ice-cream-truck-3.jpg





Maybe an old bread truck or even an ice cream truck would work.

freespirit
20th February 2011, 05:56 PM
the beauty of an 8x12 shed is that you can store a cord (or 2) of wood, and still have room for a garden tractor, 4wheeler, or whatever. Also helps raise the value of the property a little with a decent size shed that's well secured. maybe not much, but more so than some old bread truck rotting away in the back corner of the lot...lol

if you want the cheapest deterrent, some well placed signage, including one saying "premises monitored by video camera" will usually get the point across...

but at the end of the day, if they really want something, they're gonna find a way to get it...unless you're willing to sit on the back deck with a load of rock salt in a Berretta extrema2 shotgun all the time....lol
;D

Book
20th February 2011, 07:15 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/12/06/article-1336095-0C5E26D9000005DC-85_634x369.jpg

Cameras and a shotgun is the only thing that will protect you from your unwarm neighbors! Shoot them at a distance with a scoped rifle so you don't have to wash down your driveway!

:)

sirgonzo420
22nd February 2011, 01:18 PM
Is this GSUS's "Ice Cream Truck" thread?


:D