Planet could be 'unrecognizable' by 2050, experts say.

[skid]

Ponce you forgot the text!

[Antonio]

Ponce you forgot the text!


I believe Ponce without no damn text ;D.

[Spectrism]

LOL... Ponce got shaken by the report so badly that he had to run and use some of his precious toliet paper.

Actually- I think the planet will be unrecognizable in less than 8 years! None of us will be walking this world in 2020. Most of us will be gone by 2014. You will know this is true as the earth has already begun to quake in anticipation of the end. The sun and outside bodies will be showing their changes too.

[Ponce]

Hahahahahaha sorry about that.........to much to read today and my mind is working faster than my fingers ;D
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.Planet could be 'unrecognizable' by 2050, experts say
… .– Sun Feb 20, 3:05 pm

WASHINGTON (AFP) – A growing, more affluent population competing for ever scarcer resources could make for an "unrecognizable" world by 2050, researchers warned at a major US science conference Sunday.

The United Nations has predicted the global population will reach seven billion this year, and climb to nine billion by 2050, "with almost all of the growth occurring in poor countries, particularly Africa and South Asia," said John Bongaarts of the non-profit Population Council.

To feed all those mouths, "we will need to produce as much food in the next 40 years as we have in the last 8,000," said Jason Clay of the World Wildlife Fund at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS).

"By 2050 we will not have a planet left that is recognizable" if current trends continue, Clay said.

The swelling population will exacerbate problems, such as resource depletion, said John Casterline, director of the Initiative in Population Research at Ohio State University.

But incomes are also expected to rise over the next 40 years -- tripling globally and quintupling in developing nations -- and add more strain to global food supplies.

People tend to move up the food chain as their incomes rise, consuming more meat than they might have when they made less money, the experts said.

It takes around seven pounds (3.4 kilograms) of grain to produce a pound of meat, and around three to four pounds of grain to produce a pound of cheese or eggs, experts told AFP.

"More people, more money, more consumption, but the same planet," Clay told AFP, urging scientists and governments to start making changes now to how food is produced.

Population experts, meanwhile, called for more funding for family planning programs to help control the growth in the number of humans, especially in developing nations.

"For 20 years, there's been very little investment in family planning, but there's a return of interest now, partly because of the environmental factors like global warming and food prices," said Bongaarts.

"We want to minimize population growth, and the only viable way to do that is through more effective family planning," said Casterline.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110220/ts_afp/scienceuspopulationfood

[ShortJohnSilver]

Heard this all before, it is a load of BS meant to scare you into giving the same people that created the problems, the power to "solve" them.

Anyone who has driven through the USA at any length, or looked into the USDA program covering millions of acres the govt is paying people NOT to grow crops on, knows this is skewed, biased crap.

[Libertytree]

Heard this all before, it is a load of BS meant to scare you into giving the same people that created the problems, the power to "solve" them.

Anyone who has driven through the USA at any length, or looked into the USDA program covering millions of acres the govt is paying people NOT to grow crops on, knows this is skewed, biased crap.


That post is worth 10 Thank yous.

[Ponce]

Well, I now believe in peace and love.........but.........I am ready for war.

Only when you are ready for all will you be afraid of none..........

[ShortJohnSilver]

well...


Now against that, show a chart of average yield per acre of your favorite agricultural crop such as wheat or corn...

[Cobalt]

Heard this all before, it is a load of BS meant to scare you into giving the same people that created the problems, the power to "solve" them.

Anyone who has driven through the USA at any length, or looked into the USDA program covering millions of acres the govt is paying people NOT to grow crops on, knows this is skewed, biased crap.



The problem is and will be more so in the future water
A lot of the crops we grow and the land we grow them on are heavily dependent on massive amounts of irrigation, the water tables are shrinking at a rate far to fast for nature to replenish and then you throw in the contamination factor because big business sees no problem in pumping millions of gallons of chemicals into the earth on a daily basis, so the water supply is constantly being reduced even further.

In the past, nature was able to filter the garbage we threw at her, but with the ever increasing population and the disregard man has for her, she is just about too the point of be overburdened.

[Walter Mitty]

I have two words " Soylent Green... is people!" (Ok four words)

[mick silver]

every thing ok till you need fuel for the farm ... it take fuel to move crops . it take fuel to get seeds . it take fuel to make feritlizers

[dys]

May I ask why you believe this? Not being snarky, genuinely curious. Thanks.

dys




LOL... Ponce got shaken by the report so badly that he had to run and use some of his precious toliet paper.

Actually- I think the planet will be unrecognizable in less than 8 years! None of us will be walking this world in 2020. Most of us will be gone by 2014. You will know this is true as the earth has already begun to quake in anticipation of the end. The sun and outside bodies will be showing their changes too.

[Spectrism]

May I ask why you believe this? Not being snarky, genuinely curious. Thanks.

dys




LOL... Ponce got shaken by the report so badly that he had to run and use some of his precious toliet paper.

Actually- I think the planet will be unrecognizable in less than 8 years! None of us will be walking this world in 2020. Most of us will be gone by 2014. You will know this is true as the earth has already begun to quake in anticipation of the end. The sun and outside bodies will be showing their changes too.



We have been through this a few times here on GSUS. Here is one link that started to talk about those things...

http://gold-silver.us/forum/religion-and-philosophy/the-last-days-the-days-of-noah-the-great-exodus-and-more/

[osoab]

Heard this all before, it is a load of BS meant to scare you into giving the same people that created the problems, the power to "solve" them.

Anyone who has driven through the USA at any length, or looked into the USDA program covering millions of acres the govt is paying people NOT to grow crops on, knows this is skewed, biased crap.



The problem is and will be more so in the future water
A lot of the crops we grow and the land we grow them on are heavily dependent on massive amounts of irrigation, the water tables are shrinking at a rate far to fast for nature to replenish and then you throw in the contamination factor because big business sees no problem in pumping millions of gallons of chemicals into the earth on a daily basis, so the water supply is constantly being reduced even further.

In the past, nature was able to filter the garbage we threw at her, but with the ever increasing population and the disregard man has for her, she is just about too the point of be overburdened.


You are also forgetting the heavy dependence of the Ag Industry on oil.

Changing to less fertilizer dependent crops would help a lot too. Corn takes way too much input for the output.

Ending the ethanol mandates would a lot of needless water usage.

[oldmansmith]

Any time you have people eating food that is grown a thousand miles (or more) away you are setting up for a big crash. It isn't rocket science; it doesn't matter how much wheat they grow in Kansas if you live in Masssachusetts.

[ShortJohnSilver]

We have been through this a few times here on GSUS. Here is one link that started to talk about those things...

http://gold-silver.us/forum/religion-and-philosophy/the-last-days-the-days-of-noah-the-great-exodus-and-more/



From your comment of April 2010 on that thread:

"The turmoil I anticipate even in 2010 is enough to make men faint in fear."

Looking back, what turmoil would you say that was? I could see the Gulf Oil Spill as being part of that I suppose.

[ShortJohnSilver]

Aye. But when we're populating so fast (re: like rabbits) that the exponential graph is well past the hockey stick, how much longer do you think that can be sustained with a finite amount of land? Whether it's sooner or later, to say our current population growth will be A-ok forever is lunacy.


All I can say in answer is that I expect as 3rd world countries become richer they will reduce their population voluntarily.

Example: 1920s Quebec, Canada: large families are the norm, 12+ kids being born in a family not uncommon. Now (same French people in Quebec): maybe 2-3 kids on average, basically replacement rate or less.

From my wife's friends in the Philippines, I can see that family size (admittedly this is anecdotal) continue to drop - her aunt had 8 kids, each of those kids have no more than 2-3 and some have 0.

[StackerKen]

History’s mysteries: Why do birth rates decrease when societies modernize?
People have fewer children in modernized cultures

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-narcissus-in-all-us/200903/history-s-mysteries-why-do-birth-rates-decrease-when-societies-m

With recession, fewer babies being born
The number of total births went down in 2008 and 2009,

http://www.allbusiness.com/medicine-health/health-health-care-by-target/15137745-1.html

[Ponce]

Is like I wrote long ago about not having kids unless you could afford to feed them, and the rest that goes with that...............If I were a young man, even working, there is no way in hell that I would have a rug rat running around.......always think about the future and what could happen "to them" and not to you.

[Spectrism]

We have been through this a few times here on GSUS. Here is one link that started to talk about those things...

http://gold-silver.us/forum/religion-and-philosophy/the-last-days-the-days-of-noah-the-great-exodus-and-more/



From your comment of April 2010 on that thread:

"The turmoil I anticipate even in 2010 is enough to make men faint in fear."

Looking back, what turmoil would you say that was? I could see the Gulf Oil Spill as being part of that I suppose.



We had some things happen last year, but the events I am expecting (and did expect to start perhaps as early as 2010) did not happen yet in sufficient volume. The breaking loose has been delayed... but I think we are through that door now.

Natural disasters are a signpost- earthquakes & volcanoes.

Wars & rumors of wars- yes... and much death. Starvation and pestilences.

The clincher for me will be amazing sights in the skies, the alignment of Iran/Ethiopia/Libya (understanding their ancient territories) and the final consolidation of world powers as a beast gobbles up conquered nations.

[Buddha]

It sure will be.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1769/1298094998617.jpg