LW prelude to big annoucement

[Serpo]

And, yea I know Its Lindsay Williams.....some big announcement coming out tomorrow...

Lindsey Williams: Globalists To Hijack Middle East, Cause Food Riots and Spike Gas Prices 1/2


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa3X4paPCGo&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db6sePbjhoQ&feature=related

[midnight rambler]

I'm sitting here with bated breath. lol

[Glass]

He's going to announce something that everyone with a pulse already knows?

[osoab]

Actually the "bombshell" information came out on Tuesday.

Look for yesterday's AJ show.

Basically, dollar is toast by 2012. Then welcome global currency. Au and Ag is a good safe haven.

We are going to screw over the entire ME by no longer buying their oil. They will go back to being sand nomads.

Oil to 200/barrel. 6-7 dollar gasoline.

We will tap into continental US oil reserves. Bakken, Gull Island. LW said there is 2 trillion barrels sitting under the rockies.


LW is supposed to be on with John Stadtmiller on RBN for the whole show on Friday. It would be nice to listen to the guy without AJ booming in.

[chad]

stadtmileeeeeeeeeeeer!

[osoab]

stadtmileeeeeeeeeeeer!


I thought you would like that. :D

[midnight rambler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjd7L6txGLk&feature=related

[Awoke]

It would be nice to listen to the guy without AJ booming in.


The simple solution is to not listen to Alex Jonesteins show.
I can't think of anyone more annoying.

[Horn]

The Berkey Water Filter people must be screaming for higher ratings...

[osoab]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-kmI1hzbI0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa2zhJh2s3E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNIuZOTReg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcsoWO4fctg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdBtU6lb5AE

[sirgonzo420]

new dvds?!

new secret TPTB source?!?!

[osoab]

LW is going to be on the 3rd hour today to explain more.

The vids I posted above were from yesterday's show.

I beg of ya! :D

[mick silver]

i hope not i was getting ready to order some more filters

[Serpo]

y. It would be nice to listen to the guy without AJ booming in.


AJ the human bullhorn

[k-os]

It would be nice to listen to the guy without AJ booming in.


The simple solution is to not listen to Alex Jonesteins show.
I can't think of anyone more annoying.


As soon as I saw his mug, I knew I wouldn't be clicking on that video.

[willie pete]

It would be nice to listen to the guy without AJ booming in.


The simple solution is to not listen to Alex Jonesteins show.
I can't think of anyone more annoying.





ABSOLUTELY WELL SAID..... :D jonesBerg makes me want to Puke :sicko I look at him as another Jer-ry Jer-ry Jer-ry Jer-ry ..Springer :D

[chad]

well, what was it? osab, i count on you for these things. ;D

[General of Darkness]

well, what was it?


Blah blah blah, Go Gator, blah blah blah. ;D

[osoab]

well, what was it?


Blah blah blah, Go Gator, blah blah blah. ;D


:lol :lol

[osoab]

well, what was it? osab, i count on you for these things. ;D




Actually the "bombshell" information came out on Tuesday.

Look for yesterday's AJ show.

Basically, dollar is toast by 2012. Then welcome global currency. Au and Ag is a good safe haven.

We are going to screw over the entire ME by no longer buying their oil. They will go back to being sand nomads.

Oil to 200/barrel. 6-7 dollar gasoline.

We will tap into continental US oil reserves. Bakken, Gull Island. LW said there is 2 trillion barrels sitting under the rockies.


LW is supposed to be on with John Stadtmiller on RBN for the whole show on Friday. It would be nice to listen to the guy without AJ booming in.


I beg of ya chad, read my old post quoted above. :D

To be quite honest, I don't remember one thing being sold during any of the three days LW has been on.
He is working on a new DVD with this new info. :D

LW will be on Tuesday next week I think to get to some other info that has yet to be discussed. I'll post today's interview when it is up.

To recap again.

ME will go back to sand nomads. We will default on all Treasury obligations that they hold along with FRN's when they crash the currency. The crisis there will shut down oil production and get us to 150-200 dollar oil within 6 months. Expect 6-7 dollar gas.

Large untapped reserves in the US will finally flow once the true fireworks in the ME get going. Bakken, Gull Island, and under the Rockies. Production cost would be about 16 dollars a barrel which would put gas @ 60 cents a gallon.
....But, they are going to leave oil at 200 dollar level to rake in more dough.

Food will be plentiful, but you won't be able to afford it due to dollar devaluation.

By 2012 the bucky is toast and a new global currency will be instituted.

China is going to do fine. They have oil contracts with Russia.
.........


I didn't write notes while listening. I don't know if I missed anything. :D

[Horn]

We are going to screw over the entire ME by no longer buying their oil. They will go back to being sand nomads.

Oil to 200/barrel. 6-7 dollar gasoline.

We will tap into continental US oil reserves. Bakken, Gull Island. LW said there is 2 trillion barrels sitting under the rockies.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ-uV72pQKI

[keehah]

Wednesday's hour with LW they laid out a solid 'big picture' theory. Not perfect (IMO) but honestly told (as honest as a preacher preaches), missing some factors as they are not as good at scientific understanding regarding issues involving finite resources, exponents and entropy and they both have a Christian 'resource issues away!' perspective. Or a TPTB disinfo enabler to explain the real path of peak oil and dollar collapse with denial of resource issues and impacts. I mean the insider(s) know as the spoke to LW by now they are feeding the public a story. Credit to Alex to be up front about this.

The story was good: Sold Middle East oil sellers US T-Bills for oil, and now that the oil has run out, and US T-Bills are soon worthless, let the Gazaiation of the region begin. Although they don't speak of resource constraints (peak oil) being 5 years old, but by saying the unrest will cause a reduction in Middle East Oil exports. Really it is any one or both can trigger an economic crash, And I see the social unrest coming 5 years after energy growth stopped.

The old LW was back and swinging for a peak oil denial home run! I recall back on GIM using LW's own data on the billions of Gull Island oil, doing some simple calulations with respect to our oil demand (at about 2005) and all that oil is only the amount the world uses every 3 months, or the US every 3 years.

And projecting further forward LW tells new Alaska and Rocky oil will save the US and allow us to rebuild; while continued fighting will keep the also limitless supply of Middle East oil from being exported and depressing prices. Make money investing in North America Oil!


And the big announcement is Charlie Sheen is on tomorrow (Thursday)! Alex told about being his whore last week, but in a very good friends, no sex way.

[mick silver]

i was thinking the other day just how many t bill do the country hold that are coming apart right now .... just maybe thats why were helping them so we can make sure those tbill are lost

[Book]

We politely lined up when gas was rationed and 81-cents per gallon (http://coyoteblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/donovan02.jpg) in the 1970s.

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[Cobalt]

We politely lined up when gas was rationed and 81-cents per gallon (http://coyoteblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/donovan02.jpg) in the 1970s.

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Yeah I remember the flag system gas stations around here had

Green flag meant they had gas
Yellow flag meant they had gas for regular longtime customers only
Red flag they had No gas

[osoab]

From yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUBsEwlE1WU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za_hT6_oMzE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6WF_nEVb9I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpd2fCjJi0Q

[Libertarian_Guard]

We politely lined up when gas was rationed and 81-cents per gallon (http://coyoteblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/donovan02.jpg) in the 1970s.

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I don't believe gas was rationed in the 70's. There were odd & even days, when you could only get gas every other day depending on whether your license plate eneded with an odd or even number, and at times there was a ten gallon limit. And at times there was no gas. But it wasn't like WWII, were people were allotted or rationed a fixed amount.

[Awoke]

We politely lined up when gas was rationed and 81-cents per gallon (http://coyoteblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/donovan02.jpg) in the 1970s.

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I don't believe gas was rationed in the 70's. There were odd & even days, when you could only get gas every other day depending on whether your license plate eneded with an odd or even number, and at times there was a ten gallon limit. And at times there was no gas. But it wasn't like WWII, were people were allotted or rationed a fixed amount.


Tomato tomahto.

[Horn]

So as the world invites upon itself another NWO over the existing one that's already in place, should we stand around and be cheerleaders with LW and everyone else?

Maybe we could dream up a global currency just like the one that already exists?

[Large Sarge]

I think LW is basically a decent guy,

he has some source, and he occassionally gets some decent info

he recommends people to store food, water, seeds, etc (not sure if he states buy guns/ammo?)

anyway he does all that without "naming names"

so on balance he is a decent guy IMO

who cares if he does not name names, most folks do not have enough interest to buy seeds, water filters, guns, etc let alone to figure out "who is doing it"

I think he gets used for disinfo from time to time, and they keep him legit by giving him some bombshell info on occassion

but his advice on getting prepped is good.

[Awoke]

I see that, and agree with you, but really who needs LW to tell you that?
What I mean is, I have never heard him say anythign of substance yet. He may have in the past, but I missed it if he did. Anyone who is listening to AJ's show already knows that they need to be prepped is what I am trying to say.


As much as it pains me to admit this, Alex Jonesstein played a major role in my awakening and was a catalyst for me to get prepped. Now I am past the bullhorn-drama fest and facing down the conspiracy without bombarding my psyche with fear mongering and AJ's anxiety attacks.

[bellevuebully]

What I mean is, I have never heard him say anythign of substance yet.

For a Baptist minister, I don't ever recall him imploring people to recieve the gospel. This is the first and foremost prep he, as a professing Christian, should be advocating. In the end, everything else is for nought. We all will parish.
To me, this is reason alone to distrust him.

[mick silver]

did something happen . did he tell us what happen

[Large Sarge]

his most recent call, was when oils was $147.00 he said it would drop under $50

gave a timeline, etc


everyone called him crazy

he nailed it, oil dropped even lower than hisforecast, but the timeline was spot on

[Serpo]

People always get hung up on the personalities giving the information and then either miss the info or dont hear it as they are too busy criticizing the people.

The info here to me ,if it pans out ,is mind boggling important.

Its the information that is important and that is what I listen too.

By sending oil prices too the moon ,the effect will be collapse in share prices across the board .

Prices going up for food and just about everything relies on transportation.

Food costs will sky rocket as agriculture is tied to oil.

Collapse of US dollar.

WW3.

If people dont find this some what important then what is, please tell me.

[Book]

I don't believe gas was rationed in the 70's. There were odd & even days, when you could only get gas every other day depending on whether your license plate eneded with an odd or even number, and at times there was a ten gallon limit. And at times there was no gas. But it wasn't like WWII, were people were allotted or rationed a fixed amount.



:oo-->

[ximmy]

I don't believe gas was rationed in the 70's. There were odd & even days, when you could only get gas every other day depending on whether your license plate eneded with an odd or even number, and at times there was a ten gallon limit. And at times there was no gas. But it wasn't like WWII, were people were allotted or rationed a fixed amount.



:oo-->


It wasn't rationed... It was restricted then allocated and distributed equitably.... ::)

[mick silver]

has he told us what to do yet ... i need to know

[ximmy]

has he told us what to do yet ... i need to know


Announcement: Everyone is now required to address him as Pastor Lindsey

[Horn]

And projecting further forward LW tells new Alaska and Rocky oil will save the US and allow us to rebuild; while continued fighting will keep the also limitless supply of Middle East oil from being exported and depressing prices. Make money investing in North America Oil!


And what denominations do you suppose that money would be in?

Something in this timeline doesn't seem to pan out quick enough for me.

The ww3 was Alex conjecture.

[keehah]

has he told us what to do yet ... i need to know


Charlie?

Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero
Collige, virgo, rosas
ubi sunt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpe_diem
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dLSVgS5AxBI/SAwuv152FDI/AAAAAAAAHO0/Z76Dx5biPZA/s400/gather+ye+rosebuds+while+ye+may_Waterhouse.jpg

And Chuck Lorre is really Haim Levine.

Chuck Lorre: 'If Charlie Sheen Outlives Me, I'm Gonna Be Really Pissed'

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/charlie-sheen-makes-anti-semitic-161180

Actor's lengthy radio rant also takes aim at Alcoholics Anonymous, Scientology and the press.

[osoab]

One thing that came to mind was the LW said that a garlic bulb went up $1 within the last week or so. Anyone buy garlic that could verify?

Towards the end of the show, and I don't know if it was on the last vids I posted, a guy from Egypt called in (can't verify) and said that most of the "protesters" in Tahrir square were paid to be there.

[wrs]

his most recent call, was when oils was $147.00 he said it would drop under $50

gave a timeline, etc


everyone called him crazy

he nailed it, oil dropped even lower than hisforecast, but the timeline was spot on

Yeah but it didn't stay there, it's back near $100 now. It doesn't really matter what he predicts, he doesn't know anything more than just what someone wants him to know and that isn't much use. He also got other things wrong that he predicted. He said there was going to be a massive amount of oil found in Russia and I think Singapore. Did that happen? Did the people in the Middle East go broke? Nope, not yet. Guess we just have to wait and see how much oil there really is on Gull Island. They are sure paying out the butt for leases in producing counties here in Texas. We are sitting on an offer for $500/net mineral acre bonus on some stuff we own in Leon County. They want to horizontal drill it for oil and gas. There are producing oil wells in the county so the leases are prime right now.

[keehah]

reuters.com (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/25/us-charliesheen-idUSTRE71O0JG20110225?WT.tsrc=Social%20Media&WT.z_smid=twtr-reuters_%20com&WT.z_smid_dest=Twitter)
(Reuters) - CBS Corp. said on Thursday it was discontinuing production of its top-rated comedy show "Two and A Half Men for the rest of the season because of actor Charlie Sheen's "statements, conduct and condition."

[ximmy]

reuters.com (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/25/us-charliesheen-idUSTRE71O0JG20110225?WT.tsrc=Social%20Media&WT.z_smid=twtr-reuters_%20com&WT.z_smid_dest=Twitter)
(Reuters) - CBS Corp. said on Thursday it was discontinuing production of its top-rated comedy show "Two and A Half Men for the rest of the season because of actor Charlie Sheen's "statements, conduct and condition."


Oh crap!!!!

[osoab]

reuters.com (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/25/us-charliesheen-idUSTRE71O0JG20110225?WT.tsrc=Social%20Media&WT.z_smid=twtr-reuters_%20com&WT.z_smid_dest=Twitter)
(Reuters) - CBS Corp. said on Thursday it was discontinuing production of its top-rated comedy show "Two and A Half Men for the rest of the season because of actor Charlie Sheen's "statements, conduct and condition."


Oh crap!!!!


Damn, Jon Cryer is out of a job. :lol

[Horn]

Wednesday's hour with LW they laid out a solid 'big picture' theory. Not perfect (IMO) but honestly told (as honest as a preacher preaches), missing some factors as they are not as good at scientific understanding regarding issues involving finite resources, exponents and entropy and they both have a Christian 'resource issues away!' perspective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGROp5a2sUg

[osoab]

LW is supposed to be on the National Intel Report with John Stadtmiller here @ 4:00 CST.

http://republicbroadcasting.org/

You going to listen Chad? ;D

[osoab]

LW just said he will be on Coast to Coast for 2 hours tonight.

[ximmy]

For those interested, he said, the elite want oil raised to $200.00 barrel, then drill for domestic US oil, and sell us our own oil at those high rates...

It took him an hour to say that... Oh, and he promoted his new dvd's... soon to be released.

[Libertytree]

For those interested, he said, the elite want oil raised to $200.00 barrel, then drill for domestic US oil, and sell us our own oil at those high rates...

It took him an hour to say that... Oh, and he promoted his new dvd's... soon to be released.


Wow!!!!!!! Only an hour? He has dvd's? :sarc:

[beefsteak]

Bellevue,
Almost EVERY full presentation I've ever heard LW speak, he has been consistently faithful to plead for those within the sound of his voice to "get their spiritual house in order" as part of the "basic" preparations. Perhaps you've were distracted at those multiple points?

Lib,
His DVDs are not copyrighted and are usually up on YouTube for FREE VIEWING within 48 hours of release, by LW's wishes.

LW doesn't have to "panhandle DVDs" to pay his bills. The DVDs are a way to distribute info to friends and family and neighbors who never have heard of LW nor AJ. I sure had not ever heard of either of those two gentlemen until AFTER March 23, 2010. He tapes them for another organization who digitizes and distributes as a ministry, not a cash cow.


Thanks to the GSUS'ers SERPO (who were thoughtful enough to start this thread and post the 1st AJ segments), and OSOAB (who added more YouTubes.)

beefsteak

[PatColo]

from 10/21/10:



heard the whole 2 hour AJ/LW interview now, will repeat on the AJ stream every 3 hours until tomorrow's new show, next repeat begins @ 4PM PST, then 7PM, etc. Notes:

Russia has agreed w/China to supply all their energy needs: oil/gas. Oil is about to start soaring again. I think the rub here is that they won't be using the FRNs (China's T-Notes) as medium of exchange, this is FRN doom. No value was publicly given to the Russia/China announcement, because it won't be denominated in FRNs.
(see: BBC 9/27/10: Russia and China sign series of energy agreements (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11417781), "China and Russia have signed a series of agreements to boost energy co-operation during a ceremony to open an oil pipeline between the countries."
also see: Global Plans to Replace the Dollar (http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/1-global-plans-to-replace-the-dollar/) -PC)

gold/silver rally to continue, get some now, it's still cheap today. Elitest friend says they're going up & up crazy like (no numbers given), & they're "the only place you can protect your assets". Gold/silver are the currency of the elites.

crude to rise to $150-200/barrel, $4-5 gasoline, time frame 6-8 months. could be affected by cyber attack if net is shut down, credit cards stop working, cash only. This cyber-speculation was not from LW's "elite friend", just LW speculating because of this morning's Napolitano announcement re cyber attack.
(ref: Pentagon to aid DHS in case of cyber attack on domestic soil (http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=10032) -PC)

Napolitano met with a prominent (unnamed) AZ Hispanic activist last week, told them to get 6 mos food/water storage at home asap, something big is about to happen.

sep 13-17 this year, insiders sold 400:1 vs insider buying. more recently (oct 4-8) it's 1600:1.
(ref: Insider Selling To Buying Surpasses 1,400-1 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/insider-selling-to-buying-surpasses-1-400-1/msg118086/#msg118086) -PC)

FRN dead by 2012, elites know it, china/russia know it. Elites want it to happen suddenly, rather than sheeple waking up in advance & revolting, so that sheeple just wake up one day and they're so poor there's nothing they can do about it.

Iran war: imminent: anytime within 5 mos. TPTB want a new mideast war.
(ref: Nuclear sanctions anger Iran as European airports forbid planes to refuel in 'psychological war' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1322093/Nuclear-sanctions-anger-Iran-European-airports-forbid-planes-refuel-psychological-war.html#ixzz131rMcOF5) -PC)

end goal of [engineered] mortgage crisis [fraudclosuregate, mortgage-backed-securities] is that it become so critical, banks will need another huge bailout- gov will bailout, somewhere perhaps up to $45T, vs '08 TARP bailout which was $7-8T (ref: MSNBC Video 45.5 TRILLION DOLLAR LOSS (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/msnbc-video-45-5-trillion-dollar-loss/msg128474/#msg128474) -PC)... elite will own every piece of mortgaged real estate in America. If you've bought a repo'd house in the past 3 years, you probably cannot get clear title, and may lose it, details not provided, banks to be allowed to take properties without proper title.
(ref: Latest Real Estate Time Bomb: Title of Foreclosed Properties Clouded; Wells Fargo Dumping Risk on Hapless Buyers (http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/09/latest-real-estate-time-bomb-title-of-foreclosed-properties-clouded-wells-fargo-dumping-risk-on-hapless-buyers.html)
also ref: How Can I Profit The Most On The Coming Legalization of Mortgage Fraud? (http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/10/18/how-can-i-profit-the-most-on-the-coming-legalization-of-mortgage-fraud/)
also ref: Agenda 21 For Dummies (incl: abolition of private property) (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/agenda-21-for-dummies-%28incl-abolition-of-private-property%29/msg107446/#msg107446) -PC)

re Gulf "disaster", they've filled the pipe with mud, stopped leak, but that doesn't stop the oil & corexit problems, still a disaster but no one (read: MSM -PC) is talking about it. BP has tried to hire all the scientists in the area who may independently investigate it, put them on their payroll for next couple years so that they stay quiet.
(ref: When University Scientists Found Underwater Oil Plumes, the Government Said Shut Up, Don't Tell Anyone ... and Then Tried to Discredit Them (http://gold-silver.us/forum/gulf-oil-disaster/government-gags-scientists-on-oil-spill-information/)
also ref: Compilation: Federal government CONFISCATING SAMPLES and PREVENTING RESEARCH all over Gulf (VIDEO) (http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/federal-government-confiscating-samples-preventing-research-all-gulf-video)
also ref: BP Engaged in Massive Coverup of Oil Damage, Human Health Crisis (http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/54774)
also ref: Censored Gulf news: Terror in Deep South for Agenda 21 (Pt III) Disinformation, depopulation (http://gold-silver.us/forum/conspiracy-theories/bp-gulf-oil-disaster-conspiratorial-view-of-history-perspective/msg107602/#msg107602)
also ref: Tennessee entertainer Gulf poisoned: 'Eastern US depopulation" (video) (http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/nashville-showman-gulf-poisoned-eastern-us-depopulation-mcclure-video)
also ref: BP Gulf Oil Disaster: Conspiratorial View Of History Perspective (http://gold-silver.us/forum/conspiracy-theories/bp-gulf-oil-disaster-conspiratorial-view-of-history-perspective/msg54635/#msg54635) -PC)

Re LW's prediction that "everyone will be a .gov employee", think healthcare bill, banks, GM, AIG... they didn't flesh that out more re how "everyone" will be .gov, ?!?

LW says ordinances have quietly been set in place in AZ counties (cited Yavapai county AZ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yavapai_County,_Arizona) among a couple others) where if "one complaint" is received about a given church, gummit can come and lock the doors. AJ asked LW for specifics to search for news, LW said he'd speak to the producer after the show. NWO "devil's messiah" system seeks to destroy churches, needed to remove the "God" which America was founded on, to pave the way for NWO world religion.

LW's elite friend hasn't disclosed anything to LW about the chemtrail op (http://gold-silver.us/forum/conspiracy-theories/chemtrails-morgellons-syndrome-primer-latest-news/msg5320/#msg5320), or FEMA containment centers (http://www.google.com/search?q=FEMA+camps&tbo=p&tbs=vid%3A1&source=vgc&aq=f), although LW believes these exist.

Elite have intentionally been moving millions of factory jobs outside of the US. Dell closing its last US manufacturing, moving to China, investing 100B there.

LW returning to AJ show next Mon @ noon central.


and from 1/17/11:



I heard about 30 mins of LW, AJ spent the last quarter of the hour discussing his water/fluoride video.

The novel thing LW had to say was re silver, developments just this month dealing w/COMEX inventory and some big $ investors taking possession such that COMEX silver is deeply depleted (LW cited some numbers but I didn't take notes), concluded that silver could explode upside near term, said he wouldn't be surprised to see $50/oz by Feb 1 (mind you that's LW's speculation, not what his PTB source told him to expect- theme was, we haven't seen anything yet with Au/Ag prices). Forgive my skepticism, but how many times have I heard over the years how, due to some interpretation of COMEX numbers, silver was going to explode near term?! And I'm not seeing it in the current trading behavior of silver...

Yellow lights were flashing when LW gave a little spiel about how TPTB know about AJ, and they don't like him, they see how he's waking 'murkans up, yada yada. How does that spiel jibe with LW's going on the AJ show and ostensibly singing like a canary about TPTB's plans for us-- while at the same time trying to maintain a working relationship with this "new & improved" PTB friend who's leaking critical info to LW!? :conf: :oo-->


LW had a shwing-N-a-miss with his personal "$50 silver by Feb 1" prognostication; but $50 this year is certainly plausible. Otherwise, what I've read in this thread says he's saying basically the same things as he has since last Oct.

Right? :conf:

[PatColo]

BTW if oil's going to $150 - 200 by end of summer, a weekly price breakout like (http://tfccharts.com/chart/CO/W) this is certainly a good start...

Imagine my excitement to check my UCO and find it had jumped from $12-something to >$50. But alas is was mostly from a 1:4 reverse split. :-\

[Horn]

So long as he slips us some inside info. from TpTb, that we can all profit on.

I guess that makes him alright?

Why does the entire show make you feel like a lamb led to slaughter?

[kregener]

I don't believe gas was rationed in the 70's. There were odd & even days, when you could only get gas every other day depending on whether your license plate eneded with an odd or even number, and at times there was a ten gallon limit. And at times there was no gas. But it wasn't like WWII, were people were allotted or rationed a fixed amount.


If you could not pull in and get it whenever you wanted or needed it, or just on a whim, it was rationed!

[beefsteak]

So long as he slips us some inside info. from TpTb, that we can all profit on.

I guess that makes him alright?

Why does the entire show make you feel like a lamb led to slaughter?


Horn,
the unveiling of a 40 year plan initially implemented by absolutely obscenely evil Kissinger for "final chaos" tends to have that effect on the targeted generation.

Don't know if you are a "believer" or not, but I am, and the Holy Scriptures state in Mark 13:20 I believe is the correct attribution, "if God didn't shorten the days, no flesh would survive." (my best recollection of the passage.)

If I had my druthers, I would have picked another generation within which to walk upright, on the land. (heavy sigh)

as far as profiting on intel? Looks to me like between now and 2018 is the time to own anything "oil" as LW put it. Me? I like my chances with "smaller commoditys" ...easier to store and handle and test for one thing.

I wouldn't know a cupful of light sweet crude if it sat next to my coffee cup or hot chocolate before bedtime ritual, frankly.

Beefsteak

[bellevuebully]

Bellevue,
Almost EVERY full presentation I've ever heard LW speak, he has been consistently faithful to plead for those within the sound of his voice to "get their spiritual house in order" as part of the "basic" preparations. Perhaps you've were distracted at those multiple points?

Lib,


Beef, because I respect you as a poster and a brother, I went back and intently listened to the entire 5 part presentation in the op. I heard only one reference to anything remotely related to God, and it was in the 5th part, in the last minute, and was brought up in the context of a joke.

I stand by my original statement. If this man has any level of spiritual maturity in Christ, the thrust of his message would be faith in Christ, not fear of Luciferians. It would encourage the hope of the gospel, not hopelessness of elitist gossip. He would put his focus in the promise of truth, not in deceit of liars. He does, after all, claim to be a pastor in the body of Christ, and that is something that should not be taken lightly, for the obvious reason that it is a primary leadership role in Christ's church.

I have a problem putting my trust in a man who claims spiritual maturity but displays no spiritual urgency in light of the apparent urgent message he is delivering. In my opinion, it is utter fear mongering and has no value in the edification or instruction of the body which unquestionably, as a pastor, should be his main concern. While I don't fully discredit the information being put forth, I certainly distrust or suspect his involvement of it's disemination.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one friend. :)

[Serpo]

Bellevue,
Almost EVERY full presentation I've ever heard LW speak, he has been consistently faithful to plead for those within the sound of his voice to "get their spiritual house in order" as part of the "basic" preparations. Perhaps you've were distracted at those multiple points?

Lib,


Beef, because I respect you as a poster and a brother, I went back and intently listened to the entire 5 part presentation in the op. I heard only one reference to anything remotely related to God, and it was in the 5th part, in the last minute, and was brought up in the context of a joke.

I stand by my original statement. If this man has any level of spiritual maturity in Christ, the thrust of his message would be faith in Christ, not fear of Luciferians. It would encourage the hope of the gospel, not hopelessness of elitist gossip. He would put his focus in the promise of truth, not in deceit of liars. He does, after all, claim to be a pastor in the body of Christ, and that is something that should not be taken lightly, for the obvious reason that it is a primary leadership role in Christ's church.

I have a problem putting my trust in a man who claims spiritual maturity but displays no spiritual urgency in light of the apparent urgent message he is delivering. In my opinion, it is utter fear mongering and has no value in the edification or instruction of the body which unquestionably, as a pastor, should be his main concern. While I don't fully discredit the information being put forth, I certainly distrust or suspect his involvement of it's disemination.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one friend. :)





Perhaps the reason he gets through to such a wide audience is that he isnt always preaching the gospel so to speak as that turns a lot of people off.Giving this information is how he sees that he is doing "Gods" work.

Have seen the church put plenty of fear into people.

Also everyones spiritual house is different ,LW maybe speaking to people of all faiths ect.

We all respect your faith here bellevuebully , but for myself personally it comes down (or up) to a conscious state of mind with out any dogma attached.It is a way of seeing as opposed to believing.Believe the scriptures if you must but one day people are going to have to get out there and actually live it and be your true self as the creator truly wished.

Whenever I need to believe then I realise I have failed as it is really only my mind searching for the infinite which is really right in front of us the whole time.

Belief, meaning...... a psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true

Truth to me is beyond a psychological state but more like a conscious reality.Many beliefs are like this .....something held by the mind and heart that becomes so ingrained that it becomes a reality for that person.

It was only until the mind was emptied of all this that the vision can clear or we become like little children as they say.

Why do people die for their beliefs........to me it is a silly thing as it achieves nothing but is an example of how misled a person can become.

[bellevuebully]

^^^^Serpo, I appreciate very much the time you put into your response. It's late for me and I need to shut down for the day, but I would like to pick this up tomorrow to explore a few things you noted.

Have a good night, and I'll catch you back in this thread sometime tomorrow (or whenever you can get back, if you wish to).

Cheers.

[PatColo]

Should We Take Lindsey Williams Seriously? (http://www.henrymakow.com/manipulating_oil_price.html)

February 26, 2011
Long term plans to manipulate the price of oil: Using the anti-government protests and Al Qaida to make it happen
by Christian Soderberg
(for henrymakow.com)

[Horn]

Truth to me is beyond a psychological state but more like a conscious reality. Many beliefs are like this .....something held by the mind and heart that becomes so ingrained that it becomes a reality for that person.

Reality, or delusion?

If huge reserves of oil show up under the U.S. you'd think the per barrel price falls pretty quick, even though tapping it would take a the better part of a decade... if the dollar falls by half they may be able to print enough to soak it up.

Still, LW makes it appear as everything is going per "Gods" plan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTN-1FzAu5E

[bellevuebully]

Thanks for your patience Serpo. Took a bit of a break yesterday.

You mentioned respect of others' beliefs, and I sense you meant that very genuinely, and I share in your thoughts on that matter....I just wanted to acknowlege that before I repond to your post. This is good discussion, and I would hate for it to be percieved as anything but.

For simplicity, I'll respond point by point.




Perhaps the reason he gets through to such a wide audience is that he isnt always preaching the gospel so to speak as that turns a lot of people off.Giving this information is how he sees that he is doing "Gods" work.

Have seen the church put plenty of fear into people.

Also everyones spiritual house is different ,LW maybe speaking to people of all faiths ect.

I don't know what your specific spiritual beliefs are Serpo, but from what you wrote, I assume it is not Christianity. Again, for emphasis, I respect that fully. The point here is though, that if you are not rooted in Christian beliefs it is hard for you to even understand what the calling of a disciple of Jesus Christ is and it's relationship to how we are to view the events around us, and how we are to respond to them.

To be more specific, let's look at the term "God's work" and the idea of not just preaching the gospel in order to do this.

I agree that "God's work" entails doing good works and helping others, as it appears Mr. Lindsay seems to be doing. I also agree that "just" preaching the gospel is not necessarily the best approach at reaching others. But what you seemed to have missed in my comments (which again, I can understand why, if you are not of full comprehension of the call of true discipleship) is that WL totally ignores the spiritual aspect of a very doomy and gloomy message. His total focus is on the message of, as he calls him, his "elitist friend" (kind of hard to imagine being a friend of someone wanting to destroy 90% of humanity) while avoiding totally the good news that he should be fully cognizant of, namely that amid the gloom, there is great hope in Jesus Christ.

As far everone's spiritual house being different, and speaking to all faiths, that is all the more reason for someone who understands the true hope we have in Christ (as WL does in his profession to be a minister of the gospel) to back up such a depressing message with the light of real truth, not some truth according to a sadistic lunatic who wants to control the world.



We all respect your faith here bellevuebully , but for myself personally it comes down (or up) to a conscious state of mind with out any dogma attached.It is a way of seeing as opposed to believing.Believe the scriptures if you must but one day people are going to have to get out there and actually live it and be your true self as the creator truly wished.

Whatever it personally comes down to for you is your personal choice, but for LW, he has made a profession of faith, and his actions should back up those professions. That was really the point of my comments.

As I said in my original post.....along with delivering the info he had, he should be backing it up with spiritual perspective. In not doing so, he appears to be putting much more stock in the message the world has for him, rather than the message that the cross has for us all, and that is contrary to what scripture has to say about spiritual maturity. That, as you say, would be actually getting out there and living his faith, not avoiding it or hiding it from those who really need the comfort of hearing it.

As a Christian, that is what our Creator truly wishes....to be a city on a hill where all can see the true light, and to be the salt of the earth that brings a full seasoning of appreciation for what is really happening on this earth.



Whenever I need to believe then I realise I have failed as it is really only my mind searching for the infinite which is really right in front of us the whole time.

Belief, meaning...... a psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true

Truth to me is beyond a psychological state but more like a conscious reality.Many beliefs are like this .....something held by the mind and heart that becomes so ingrained that it becomes a reality for that person.

It was only until the mind was emptied of all this that the vision can clear or we become like little children as they say.


This is what you have come to accept. I am in total disagreement with your philosophy, but it is your free choice to explore that which you will. I do hope however, that you would reconsider.


Why do people die for their beliefs........to me it is a silly thing as it achieves nothing but is an example of how misled a person can become.

I would die to protect my family.
What value in this life would there be knowing there was something you could possibly have done for those you loved, but didn't or wouldn't try?

I would die to protect liberty and to prevent enslavement.
What value would there be in this life to be only be forever enslaved for the labour of others?

I would die before being made to denounce something that I truly believed in.
What value in this life would there be if you couldn't see yourself as one in control of their own thoughts and values?



As Beefsteak mentioned, he seems to recall LW having mentioned the spiritual aspects of the message he is delivering. Maybe he meant all of his other presentations. That may be so, but I find it odd that there was a total absence in this lengthy presentation. To me, that doesn't add up.

I would liken it to a 5 star general giving a briefing to a President about the nuclear developments in an adversarial country, but failing to divulge how it would effect national security.

So for where LW failed to mention it, let me.....Yes, there are very bad people planning very bad things for the world and mankind in general. However, the intentions being set forth by these men are not intentions which have been contrived on their own. They are contrived by our true adversary, Satan...the one who hates us with more disdain than is imaginable. But thankfully, amidst all of this depressing information, there is a true hope that we can all find. It is a hope in Christ, who loves us and died for us so that we may be reconciled to God. He has seen where this is all going and has revealed much already, and it will be His that the victory over death will belong to, so don't live in fear....live in this hope. If you don't know it already, he says seek it, and he will reveal it to you.

[Serpo]

I guess any belief I have or had has been discarded in favor of this.......

Hope you dont mind my doing a little cut and pasting here....

Hopefully this gives you a rough idea of where I am coming from.......




What is Christ Consciousness?

The human mind has spiritual currents running through its thought streams. These streams contain vital information from Spirit that is highly valuable to humans. Spirit is the source of everything TRUE, BEAUTIFUL, and GOOD and conveys these ideals through the human mind that intersect with a person’s beliefs, helping the individual ascend into the higher information that uplifts and improves the quality of life.

In human life, spiritual growth is achieved by aligning with these spiritual currents that come from both the personality and mind of Spirit by intellectual assent and emotional devotion. Christ Consciousness is the growing human recognition and blending of the human evolutionary (or ego) mind with the Divine Mind and the Divine Personality that is the source of human happiness and fulfillment. This awareness accrues over time within the consciousness of human thinking when intention, attention, and openness is focused on knowing who and what is that “christed” state of being—that higher mindedness of enlightenment.

As this awareness in the human mind grows and strengthens, life becomes more liberated, joyful, peaceful, and love-dominated. The fear which creates isolation and despair begins to diminish in thought and feeling. You are free to live the life you were born to live — as a child of Spirit in a love-filled and supportive universe.





Is Christ Consciousness Christian? Do I have to be a Christian to achieve Christ Consciousness?

The highest state of intellectual development and emotional maturity is sometimes termed the “christed” state because of the sacredness and purity of the individual who has achieved it. Jesus achieved this in his human life, and was given this term before his name as the recognition of his achievement of this spiritual status. This path is open to anyone regardless of their religious tradition if and when he or she is open to become a living vessel of LOVE and TRUTH on the planet and actively strives to attain it.

This is not a term used exclusively in the Christian religion, nor does it mean that you must adhere to the Christian belief system to attain this state. All of the world’s religious traditions offer a path to achieving this “christed” status, and people are free to find their way in the context of their religious choice. What is significant to remember here is that each person has his and her own path to finding Spirit, and to open to allowing that path to unfold naturally. Sometimes people find their way within the context of certain religious beliefs that the major world’s religions offer; some people will find their way by blending some beliefs together in a unique and innovative way. All ways and paths are honored if they lead a person into becoming more loving, forgiving, patient, kind, compassionate, tolerant, and happy. All paths of LOVE lead to the same Source of All That Is. We all share the same Creator-Source as living expressions of that Source Personality and we all are moving back home to unite with our Source.
The human mind has spiritual currents running through its thought streams. These streams contain vital information from Spirit that is highly valuable to humans. Spirit is the source of everything TRUE, BEAUTIFUL, and GOOD and conveys these ideals through the human mind that intersect with a person’s beliefs, helping the individual ascend into the higher information that uplifts and improves the quality of life.

http://www.ctrforchristcon.org/christ-consciousness.asp


'Empty thyself and I shall fill thee.'(of belief and dogma)All prejudices have to be shed. This is one of the conditions of emptying yourself. It does not mean that we have to vomit what we have eaten. We have to vomit the prejudices of the, mind. Hard it is to overcome a prejudice. And prejudice has grown like a fungus or a mushroom on our very consciousness itself.

'Empty thyself and I shall fill thee.' This is a wondrous single sentence message of Jesus the Christ. The Spirit is not a quantity and it is opposed to all quantitative measurements and conceptions. 'Blessed are the poor in spirit,' is another suggestive statement of the Christ. We cannot understand what is meant to be poor. For us, to be poor is not to have money, grains and gold, not to have a field, a house and friends, and not to be recognised in society. That would be poverty, economically. We cannot think of poverty except in an economic, material and social sense. Likewise, the idea of emptying oneself, as far as our minds can understand, is a physical displacement of content. Far from this is the idea of the Spirit, which is implied in the above single-sentence message. The Christ-Consciousness, and not the personality of Christ, is what is to be taken into account here in our understanding of this statement. There is a difference between Christ and Christ-Consciousness. This fact was repeatedly emphasised by the Christ himself in many of His declarations as recorded in the New Testament. He never regarded Himself as a person, nor did He ever indicate that a person was speaking when He spoke. He always referred to 'Him that sent me'. He was very much fond of referring to 'Him that sent me'. He said: 'I am here to proclaim the Law of Him who sent me here. It is not my law that I am demonstrating or proclaiming to the world.' The Spirit that spoke through Him was not a creature of time.

http://www.sivanandadlshq.org/religions/christconscious.htm

Thanks for your interest bellevuebully.....keep up the good work....