General of Darkness
23rd February 2011, 07:24 AM
This weekend we took some stacking pictures of Enzo to have a trained confirmation judge let us know if he would be worth wild to try and show him. The reason to do that this, that it's usually a million in 1 in this day an age to have a real "working" dog that we'll call "pretty". Well, everyone in the club thinks Enzo is not only beautiful, but his drive and abilities are just off the charts.
Well this is what we got back.
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/4023/enzoisnicebutnotperfect.jpg
While this bummed me out, the lady said. He's a beautiful dog, but the people that determine what the dobermans "confirmation" must look like, don't give a crap about what the dog can do, this is about looks. She also said that her dobermans are basically poodles in a dobermans clothing and have absolutely no linage to what the intent of the doberman was, and her dogs have absolutely NO working ability.
So I started to think about other idocracys. Here in L.A. the rage is, if you're going to get a dog, is to get a rescue, and that dogs like Enzo are an abomination. Well hells bells, Enzo is a perfect example of what a doberman should be, but these people think that every dog no matter what it is, should be a Labrador, which are really great dogs but they serve a certain function. Now keep in mind, I think that rescuing a dog is a very admirable thing to do, but you do not know the history of that dog. It could be people aggressive, dog aggressive or both, and sometimes because that dog had the misfortune of being brought up in a bad environment that sometimes it's better to just put the animal down because you can't fix the damage that's already been done.
People that speak the loudest don't understand temperament, character, working ability, and every breed of dog is like a tool in a tool box. These are the same type of people that might think Enzo could make a great sled dog, which is insanity.
So here's some more idiocracy. In German and I think England they've outlawed cropping and docking of the ears and tail. So what does that mean to me personally. Let's say Enzo and I work our tails off for the next 3 years and he gets titles in Schutzhund One, Two and Three. And miraculously we make it on to the national team and that year when Enzo is at his peak, the World Schutzhund Championships are in German, we can't go. It's illegal to even BRING a dog into the country with a docked tail and cropped ears.
So what do we have in our society, the same damn thing. Men should be sensative, women assertive etc etc etc. Ultimately it's all bullcrap, and personally I think it goes against nature. We've got people breeding that shouldn't be breeding. And just like dogs, the human race is being genetically diluted in to a pile of crap, when we should be putting out a better stock of people.
Those interested in reading more about the dog stuff this is a great article that just came out going into detail about what I'm talking about.
After Us the Great Flood
Written by Koos Hassing
Please read this critical article with an open mind as I have wrote it in my opinion important phrases and offer my conclusions.!
Sport organizations and clubs which respect themselves have to aim for continuity and development in accordance with their statutes. Because it is about the fact that we wish that our sport and hobby can be continued by our successors. In our case this means in the broadest sense of the word the leisure time activity with the German Shepherd Dog and his world wide reputed versatile traits.
Now we have to demand a clear understanding of the subject matter from the representatives in the organizations from the very top all the way to the very bottom. They have to show the willingness and readiness to make important decisions when necessary to the benefit and the existence of our breed.
The founder of our breed did make this statement for nothing: “Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog for I have struggled all my life for that aim!” Many developments are naturally subject to social changes, but the principle has to be maintained or better said, the goal has to remain the same. And that has to be thought about carefully.
Why this prelude you may ask?
Friday evening, after the courage test at the “Hauptzuchtschau” in Ulm was over I got an alarmed phone call from a sport friend who was there and told me that many of the SchH 2 and even more of the SchH 3 dogs did not pass protection. Sunday evening I calculated that 63 males and 49 females failed. Furthermore, we are talking about exclusively KKL 1 dogs here who had received the rating of “TSB pronounced” in their ZtP/Körung. I doubt that the number of failures had ever been that high. My information showed that protection may have been judged marginally harder but not significantly harder than in years past. I was even told that had the helper work been consistent for all the dogs there would have been even more failures.
There were glaring differences between dogs from performance lines and those from show lines. OK, that may not be such a big deal, but it clearly accentuates how big the differences are. Only a few years ago I myself was a witness to the way protection was handled at the “Hauptzuchtschau”.
I came to the conclusion that some assessments were at the very bottom of the rating “pronounced”, some even below. Dogs who came off the sleeve during the attack on handler still got a rating high enough to remain in the competition. In individual cases apparently the manner in which the dogs prevented the attack (energetic gripping is desired) was of secondary importance. Obviously some things had improved somewhat, but it has to be said. It appears as if the top people in the SV, who got there due to political circumstance, chose this result, and everyone seems OK with that. One would think based on that that the general public is also satisfied with the result! Keep going that way.
In my opinion, this can never be the right solution. The movement in this direction already became apparent years ago. But it is exactly like judging one’s own affairs, it is rejected in society and politically and no significant improvement can be brought about.
That brings me back to my opening, the preservation of the breed. So, if we analyze what has been developing, and I would like to do that in the broadest sense of the word, one does not have to be a college graduate to come to the following conclusions. The goals set in the bylaws and the trial regulations as well as the breed suitability regulations are all very clear in their statements. Nobody can argue that. Where things are lacking significantly in my opinion is the putting the written standards into practice and their interpretations.
The Chain
The people who are the main links in the chain of responsibility for the preservation of the German Shepherd Dog should be the first place we look.
Board members of the WUSV countries
Breeders
Performance judges (SV/IPO)
Körmeister (breed survey judges)
Naturally, there are secondary links in the chain as well (trainers and helpers for example and others). But I want to limit myself to the main group. I am convinced that the leadership is lacking in matters of breed preservation.
The Leadership/Board
In the bylaws and regulations the goals of breeding just like the breed characteristics are clearly defined. Over the different decades certain individual aspects were pushed aside, but the principles were not altered. On paper everything stayed the same; from time to time some regulations were changed and even improved a bit.
Almost automatically my thoughts wander back to the time when the Martin brothers used their influence as SV-members/SV-board members/SV Körmeister to create their “own” German Shepherd Dog. In my opinion that was a German Shepherd who deviated significantly from the breed standard. It goes without saying that they could not accomplish this on their own and by themselves. But considering their considerable influence at that time not much happened without them and their input.
Their influence on the leadership level was unmistakable.
The influence of a Canto von Arminius (W. Martin), a dog with bad temperament and character, and of a Quanto v.d. Wienerau (H. Martin) was praised to high heaven in the creation of a, pardon the expression, artificially constructed (read: modern) German Shepherd Dog.
Working abilities were hardly if at all talked about. The Kennels in Viernheim were sometimes jokingly referred to as the breeding factories of beauty. Some even dared to say that they (Martin brothers) did great damage to the breed. You can read Walter Hoffmann’s original report on the topic. I agree with that entirely.
It was a very single minded direction for which the German Shepherd they created was set as a standard. Ego, prestige, and profit dominated, especially when the Asian countries became part of the picture. That the working traits and abilities were reduced to a minimum seemed to be acceptable. During that time I watched trials in Germany where dogs got their Schutzhund trial “stamp” (for breeding) in ways that I would prefer to forget quickly. But at the time it was a reality.
That was a dangerous development, because the chances that one “breaks through the thin ice one skates on” become very real (as we have seen since then). But the whole world followed the SV (read: Arminius and Wienerau) because their rules had to be followed if one did not want to be thrown overboard.
Even the boards of foreign clubs (Holland, Belgium, etc.) followed suit along with many breeders. If one wants to see a silver lining in this cloud, one could say that for some breed fanciers this movement was a wakeup call (at least in Germany) to breed better working dogs. It was a necessary evil if one wanted to preserve the working abilities. Police, military, and customs could not find a sufficient numbers of suitable German Shepherd Dogs. People were fed up, and I was around to witness this development first hand.
Alfred Hahn, from the kennel “vom Busecker Schloss, was very clear. He told me: “Koos, if you want to improve the German Shepherd Dog, and I know that is your goal, then consider this for the future. One can improve the anatomy of the German Shepherd in only a few generations. But to improve, temperament, character, and the necessary working abilities take much much longer. Good males will always be around, so focus on the quality of your brood bitches!” In my opinion, the pure truth, spoken by a very experienced breeder and Körmeister. ME - WOMEN ARE THE FOUNDATION OF SOCIETY. AND WHAT DOES TPTB PROMOTE? INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE AND DIVERSITY TO DILUTE THE STOCK OF THE RACE.
Another one of his favorite sayings was: “During the hold and bark in the blind you can see and hear the soul of the dog!! But as a judge one has to be ABLE to see it.” His two males Greif zum Lahntal and his son Sagus as well as many other dogs gave the performance world definite boosts (read: working abilities). In reference to improvement or at least preservation, the results of an American study are also very interesting. It was stated that the traits that determine “beauty” appear to be on the same gene as the traits responsible for temperament and character. If that is in fact the case, then we certainly have an additional problem.
Well this is what we got back.
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/4023/enzoisnicebutnotperfect.jpg
While this bummed me out, the lady said. He's a beautiful dog, but the people that determine what the dobermans "confirmation" must look like, don't give a crap about what the dog can do, this is about looks. She also said that her dobermans are basically poodles in a dobermans clothing and have absolutely no linage to what the intent of the doberman was, and her dogs have absolutely NO working ability.
So I started to think about other idocracys. Here in L.A. the rage is, if you're going to get a dog, is to get a rescue, and that dogs like Enzo are an abomination. Well hells bells, Enzo is a perfect example of what a doberman should be, but these people think that every dog no matter what it is, should be a Labrador, which are really great dogs but they serve a certain function. Now keep in mind, I think that rescuing a dog is a very admirable thing to do, but you do not know the history of that dog. It could be people aggressive, dog aggressive or both, and sometimes because that dog had the misfortune of being brought up in a bad environment that sometimes it's better to just put the animal down because you can't fix the damage that's already been done.
People that speak the loudest don't understand temperament, character, working ability, and every breed of dog is like a tool in a tool box. These are the same type of people that might think Enzo could make a great sled dog, which is insanity.
So here's some more idiocracy. In German and I think England they've outlawed cropping and docking of the ears and tail. So what does that mean to me personally. Let's say Enzo and I work our tails off for the next 3 years and he gets titles in Schutzhund One, Two and Three. And miraculously we make it on to the national team and that year when Enzo is at his peak, the World Schutzhund Championships are in German, we can't go. It's illegal to even BRING a dog into the country with a docked tail and cropped ears.
So what do we have in our society, the same damn thing. Men should be sensative, women assertive etc etc etc. Ultimately it's all bullcrap, and personally I think it goes against nature. We've got people breeding that shouldn't be breeding. And just like dogs, the human race is being genetically diluted in to a pile of crap, when we should be putting out a better stock of people.
Those interested in reading more about the dog stuff this is a great article that just came out going into detail about what I'm talking about.
After Us the Great Flood
Written by Koos Hassing
Please read this critical article with an open mind as I have wrote it in my opinion important phrases and offer my conclusions.!
Sport organizations and clubs which respect themselves have to aim for continuity and development in accordance with their statutes. Because it is about the fact that we wish that our sport and hobby can be continued by our successors. In our case this means in the broadest sense of the word the leisure time activity with the German Shepherd Dog and his world wide reputed versatile traits.
Now we have to demand a clear understanding of the subject matter from the representatives in the organizations from the very top all the way to the very bottom. They have to show the willingness and readiness to make important decisions when necessary to the benefit and the existence of our breed.
The founder of our breed did make this statement for nothing: “Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog for I have struggled all my life for that aim!” Many developments are naturally subject to social changes, but the principle has to be maintained or better said, the goal has to remain the same. And that has to be thought about carefully.
Why this prelude you may ask?
Friday evening, after the courage test at the “Hauptzuchtschau” in Ulm was over I got an alarmed phone call from a sport friend who was there and told me that many of the SchH 2 and even more of the SchH 3 dogs did not pass protection. Sunday evening I calculated that 63 males and 49 females failed. Furthermore, we are talking about exclusively KKL 1 dogs here who had received the rating of “TSB pronounced” in their ZtP/Körung. I doubt that the number of failures had ever been that high. My information showed that protection may have been judged marginally harder but not significantly harder than in years past. I was even told that had the helper work been consistent for all the dogs there would have been even more failures.
There were glaring differences between dogs from performance lines and those from show lines. OK, that may not be such a big deal, but it clearly accentuates how big the differences are. Only a few years ago I myself was a witness to the way protection was handled at the “Hauptzuchtschau”.
I came to the conclusion that some assessments were at the very bottom of the rating “pronounced”, some even below. Dogs who came off the sleeve during the attack on handler still got a rating high enough to remain in the competition. In individual cases apparently the manner in which the dogs prevented the attack (energetic gripping is desired) was of secondary importance. Obviously some things had improved somewhat, but it has to be said. It appears as if the top people in the SV, who got there due to political circumstance, chose this result, and everyone seems OK with that. One would think based on that that the general public is also satisfied with the result! Keep going that way.
In my opinion, this can never be the right solution. The movement in this direction already became apparent years ago. But it is exactly like judging one’s own affairs, it is rejected in society and politically and no significant improvement can be brought about.
That brings me back to my opening, the preservation of the breed. So, if we analyze what has been developing, and I would like to do that in the broadest sense of the word, one does not have to be a college graduate to come to the following conclusions. The goals set in the bylaws and the trial regulations as well as the breed suitability regulations are all very clear in their statements. Nobody can argue that. Where things are lacking significantly in my opinion is the putting the written standards into practice and their interpretations.
The Chain
The people who are the main links in the chain of responsibility for the preservation of the German Shepherd Dog should be the first place we look.
Board members of the WUSV countries
Breeders
Performance judges (SV/IPO)
Körmeister (breed survey judges)
Naturally, there are secondary links in the chain as well (trainers and helpers for example and others). But I want to limit myself to the main group. I am convinced that the leadership is lacking in matters of breed preservation.
The Leadership/Board
In the bylaws and regulations the goals of breeding just like the breed characteristics are clearly defined. Over the different decades certain individual aspects were pushed aside, but the principles were not altered. On paper everything stayed the same; from time to time some regulations were changed and even improved a bit.
Almost automatically my thoughts wander back to the time when the Martin brothers used their influence as SV-members/SV-board members/SV Körmeister to create their “own” German Shepherd Dog. In my opinion that was a German Shepherd who deviated significantly from the breed standard. It goes without saying that they could not accomplish this on their own and by themselves. But considering their considerable influence at that time not much happened without them and their input.
Their influence on the leadership level was unmistakable.
The influence of a Canto von Arminius (W. Martin), a dog with bad temperament and character, and of a Quanto v.d. Wienerau (H. Martin) was praised to high heaven in the creation of a, pardon the expression, artificially constructed (read: modern) German Shepherd Dog.
Working abilities were hardly if at all talked about. The Kennels in Viernheim were sometimes jokingly referred to as the breeding factories of beauty. Some even dared to say that they (Martin brothers) did great damage to the breed. You can read Walter Hoffmann’s original report on the topic. I agree with that entirely.
It was a very single minded direction for which the German Shepherd they created was set as a standard. Ego, prestige, and profit dominated, especially when the Asian countries became part of the picture. That the working traits and abilities were reduced to a minimum seemed to be acceptable. During that time I watched trials in Germany where dogs got their Schutzhund trial “stamp” (for breeding) in ways that I would prefer to forget quickly. But at the time it was a reality.
That was a dangerous development, because the chances that one “breaks through the thin ice one skates on” become very real (as we have seen since then). But the whole world followed the SV (read: Arminius and Wienerau) because their rules had to be followed if one did not want to be thrown overboard.
Even the boards of foreign clubs (Holland, Belgium, etc.) followed suit along with many breeders. If one wants to see a silver lining in this cloud, one could say that for some breed fanciers this movement was a wakeup call (at least in Germany) to breed better working dogs. It was a necessary evil if one wanted to preserve the working abilities. Police, military, and customs could not find a sufficient numbers of suitable German Shepherd Dogs. People were fed up, and I was around to witness this development first hand.
Alfred Hahn, from the kennel “vom Busecker Schloss, was very clear. He told me: “Koos, if you want to improve the German Shepherd Dog, and I know that is your goal, then consider this for the future. One can improve the anatomy of the German Shepherd in only a few generations. But to improve, temperament, character, and the necessary working abilities take much much longer. Good males will always be around, so focus on the quality of your brood bitches!” In my opinion, the pure truth, spoken by a very experienced breeder and Körmeister. ME - WOMEN ARE THE FOUNDATION OF SOCIETY. AND WHAT DOES TPTB PROMOTE? INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE AND DIVERSITY TO DILUTE THE STOCK OF THE RACE.
Another one of his favorite sayings was: “During the hold and bark in the blind you can see and hear the soul of the dog!! But as a judge one has to be ABLE to see it.” His two males Greif zum Lahntal and his son Sagus as well as many other dogs gave the performance world definite boosts (read: working abilities). In reference to improvement or at least preservation, the results of an American study are also very interesting. It was stated that the traits that determine “beauty” appear to be on the same gene as the traits responsible for temperament and character. If that is in fact the case, then we certainly have an additional problem.