OK, I've finally had it with my neighbor

[General of Darkness]

I've talked about this before, but to recap, they've been renting their back house to just aholes, druggies etc. My neighborhood is between middle class and upper class and I've been begging them or years to find decent renters, and they seem to not give a damn.

There are people coming and going from 1 - 3 am, and my dogs go ape over it, so it's hard to get a decent night of sleep.

So finally I've had it. This has been going on for over 10 years.

I did some searching and I got them by the short ones.

So I emailed the zoning department with deals of the violations.

To whom it may concern,

The property at address XYZ is zoned as R1. This property has a second house on it with a kitchen, bath, full utilities and single bedroom that is being rented to several people.

Per R1 zoning.

There are several violations

Property in Zone R-1 may be used for the following accessory uses:
-- Accessory buildings and structures customarily used in conjunction therewith.
-- Animals, domestic and wild, maintained or kept as pets or for personal use as provided in Part 3 of Chapter 22.52.
-- Building materials, storage of, use in the construction of a building or building project, during the construction and 30 days thereafter, including the contractor’s temporary office, provided that any lot or parcel of land so used shall be a part of the building project, or on property adjoining the construction site.
-- Detached living quarters on the same premises as, and not less than 20 feet from a single-family residence for the use of temporary guests or servants of the occupants of such residence provided:
1. That such quarters have no kitchen or kitchen facilities; VIOLATION
2. That such quarters are not rented or otherwise used as a separate dwelling; VIOLATION
3. That such quarters are established on a lot or parcel of land that does not contain a second unit; and
4. That such quarters are established on a lot or parcel of land having not less than one and one-half times the required area, except that said quarters may be established on any lot or parcel of land containing 10,000 square feet or more. VIOLATION

Regards,

Concerned Citizen

[kregener]

Ratting to the government on anybody leaves me with a queasy and unsettling feeling.

[General of Darkness]

Ratting to the government on anybody leaves me with a queasy and unsettling feeling.


Yeah I know, but other than violence, which would put me in a bad situation, this is my only recourse. Trust me, I've been thinking about this for over 10 years and I'm just fed up with it.

EDIT - Just to be clear. I'm a libertarian, and don't give a damn what other people do, but when it affects me for this long, I'm going to react.

[osoab]

Ratting to the government on anybody leaves me with a queasy and unsettling feeling.


Yeah I know, but other than violence, which would put me in a bad situation, this is my only recourse. Trust me, I've been thinking about this for over 10 years and I'm just fed up with it.

EDIT - Just to be clear. I'm a libertarian, and don't give a damn what other people do, but when it affects me for this long, I'm going to react.


Yeah, but you already know you need to gtfo of the area due to shtf scenario.

Ratting someone out is low. Friggin Jew. ;D

You should have turned the tables and become the worst neighbor. I'm sure G.o.D. could think of a vile thing that could be employed.

[kregener]

Not denigrating you GoD, I understand your frustration more than you know! I too, have had Hillbilly neighbors to deal with, and sometimes standing on the letter of the law is all you can do.

Heavy traffic in the AM's usually means drug traffic.

[Cobalt]

You need to train those dogs of yours not to eat food they find laying in the yard, I lost one of the best trained GSD in the area because thieving renters in the neighborhood poisoned her because she'd rat them out when they were prowling at night

[BabushkaLady]

So I emailed the zoning department with deals of the violations.


From a dead end fictitious email address? By anonymous proxy?

From the Concerned Citizen right?

[Ponce]

Down the road from me.......no kitchen, bathroom, water........and it was a meth lab.

The coat and ties came in with spacesuite on and closed the place down, it will cost the owner $12,000 to have a pro come in and clean the place up.......empty for the past seven years.

[cthulu]

You should send them a notice of sovereign citizenship noticing their intent of subrogation of claim and right. Then place a lien of alluvial title on their property and it will automatically be yours.

[midnight rambler]

Meth labs should be blown up with the tweakers inside. Solve all the problems at once.

[willie pete]

something you may want to consider or not, the addition IF thats what it is, do a public records search and see IF the owner ever pulled the permits to do the "add-on" ...IF not, and you report it, the property owner will have to go to court to get it cleared which may result in: 1) the addition having to be torn down 2) or the property owner having to pay for a building inspection (DON"T count on that coming back kosher....lol) OR something in between that will cost the property owner several thousand Dollars.... :D ...THINK about it first before you pull the trigger on doing something like that though, maybe IF you're moving


I KNOW of 2 instances of what I described.....one resulted in a fine and court fees ( a property was purchased with an addition, the new owner didnt know the proper permits had NOT been pulled and Paid for) for the new owner that equaled approx. $7000

The other case was an addition, more like a "MIL's" efficiency, that was being rented out...the county CONDEMNED it and the court ruled it HAD to be demolished, the guy I knew that owned it the house (he'd inherited from his family) told me it cost him $13,000 to demo and remove it... :D

[Antonio]

There are people coming and going from 1 - 3 am, and my dogs go ape over it, so it's hard to get a decent night of sleep.


They could be classical violinists, they keep late hrs. Seriously, how fucked up is this? You want to control what time your neighbors come to their house? If they are dope dealers and they suspect you ratted them out, they are gonna cap your ass.

[mick silver]

watch your back G O D . you just never know what they may try . plus people can only take so much from some one . do they work are just deal

[Gaillo]

M O V E.

General... it's time. Involving the .gov or going to jail yourself just ISN'T worth it.

You have the means to live as a free man - what's holding you back?

[zap]

I wouldn't be calling or emailing the county on them, that is pretty chickenshit if you ask me. Sorry just my opinion.

[Book]

http://coloradomediationtv.com/Assets/HomeOwners_Association.jpg

http://justingoldman.com/badge2.jpg

General of the Homeowners Association

:D

[MNeagle]

Something smells fishy to me. "Middle to upper class" and they're tolerating this activity? For over 10 years? In their own yard?

Let us know how your report turns out.

And, as others have said: MOVE.

Montana would be good if you can handle snow. Remember, there's no bad weather, only bad clothes!! :D

[Buddha]

Am I missing something? Your neighbors are coming and going from property that they rent when they want as they have the right to do, and your snitching to papa gov because your dogs can't handle it and your dogs are keeping you up? I'm not trying to be an asshole, but this is what the OP states.

[Low_five]

My stock in GoD just took a serious dump. comrade of darkness.

[General of Darkness]

LMMFAO at some of the comments. Move, your a chicken shit blah blah blah.

So let me get this straight people, you think I should just STFU and take it? Well kiss my ass. What should I have done? Gone over and shove a 12 gauge in someones face? Beat the hell out of them? All of those result in ME getting abused by the law and I'M not the one at fault.

Some of you people amaze me and make me want to puke. ;)

[Buddha]

LMMFAO at some of the comments. Move, your a chicken shit blah blah blah.

So let me get this straight people, you think I should just STFU and take it? Well kiss my ass. What should I have done? Gone over and shove a 12 gauge in someones face? Beat the hell out of them? All of those result in ME getting abused by the law and I'M not the one at fault.

Some of you people amaze me and make me want to puke. ;)


How are you being abused?

[Son-of-Liberty]

LMMFAO at some of the comments. Move, your a chicken shit blah blah blah.

So let me get this straight people, you think I should just STFU and take it? Well kiss my ass. What should I have done? Gone over and shove a 12 gauge in someones face? Beat the hell out of them? All of those result in ME getting abused by the law and I'M not the one at fault.

Some of you people amaze me and make me want to puke. ;)


Buddha made a good point though. Are the neighbors loud enough to keep you awake on their own or only loud enough to irritate your dogs who then keep you awake. Cause if it is just your dogs then it really isn't their fault.

[General of Darkness]

LMMFAO at some of the comments. Move, your a chicken shit blah blah blah.

So let me get this straight people, you think I should just STFU and take it? Well kiss my ass. What should I have done? Gone over and shove a 12 gauge in someones face? Beat the hell out of them? All of those result in ME getting abused by the law and I'M not the one at fault.

Some of you people amaze me and make me want to puke. ;)


Buddha made a good point though. Are the neighbors loud enough to keep you awake on their own or only loud enough to irritate your dogs who then keep you awake. Cause if it is just your dogs then it really isn't their fault.


It's more than just that obviously. None of these people have jobs. They litter the streets with their POS cars, their friends show up to buy drugs at all time of the night and on and on and on.

I guess I learned my final lesson posting a thread concerning something I'm personally involved with. You all take care now.

[solid]

Yep. Couldn't have said it better myself! ;D


Yup move General. I think the General feels moving is giving up. It's not, it's bettering your future! Get out of there man while you can.

I'm working on doing the same. With a little luck, I've got a spot, maybe next couple of weeks I'll be out of this place. Right now there's another helicopter with a spot light going around. Can't wait until I don't see that anymore.

[Book]

It's more than just that obviously. None of these people have jobs.They litter the streets with their POS cars, their friends show up to buy drugs at all time of the night and on and on and on.



:oo-->




My neighborhood is between middle class and upper class...

[vacuum]

You're getting good advice General. You are living in an environment willfully then lashing out at those that inhabit it.

[Buddha]

It's more than just that obviously. None of these people have jobs. They litter the streets with their POS cars, their friends show up to buy drugs at all time of the night and on and on and on.

I guess I learned my final lesson posting a thread concerning something I'm personally involved with. You all take care now.


You whine here about how your whining to the government to get people evicted for you because they don't have work, you don't like how their cars look, and they have friends that come over. You have failed to explain when asked what actual abuse there is, if there is abuse it should not be hard to explain. My apologies for inquiring in regard to the main point of your narrative. On your way out huh, don't forget to curtsy.

[ShortJohnSilver]

It's more than just that obviously. None of these people have jobs. They litter the streets with their POS cars, their friends show up to buy drugs at all time of the night and on and on and on.

I guess I learned my final lesson posting a thread concerning something I'm personally involved with. You all take care now.


Without the full context it is difficult to give you good advice.

If they are druggies, or otherwise engaged in illegal activity, you should send a letter certified mail to the owner, expressing that you feel unsafe, that they are involved in illegal activity, etc. and that you are very concerned that the owner may be setting himself up for legal liability - then let the owner talk to his lawyer, who will advise him to clean up the place.

No cops or govt involved at this point.

If he doesn't want to play ball or otherwise tells you to get lost, you have to decide whether you will escalate it or move.

[EE_]

Good fences make good neighbors!

http://allstarfenceinc.biz/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Fence_014.23265347_std.jpg

[Cebu_4_2]

Call the department of safety anonymously and report that you see rats in the back of that lot when you go for your morning jog. It works and let them determine what is legal and not.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

I understand your frustration. If you could have done anything in the last ten years to fix it, you would have.

I would have sent that same letter to your neighbor and told him to evict them this month, or else.

[silver solution]

Meth labs should be blown up with the tweakers inside. Solve all the problems at once.
Murder is evil and wrong.

[silver solution]

I've talked about this before, but to recap, they've been renting their back house to just aholes, druggies etc. My neighborhood is between middle class and upper class and I've been begging them or years to find decent renters, and they seem to not give a damn.

There are people coming and going from 1 - 3 am, and my dogs go ape over it, so it's hard to get a decent night of sleep.

So finally I've had it. This has been going on for over 10 years.

I did some searching and I got them by the short ones.

So I emailed the zoning department with deals of the violations.

To whom it may concern,

The property at address XYZ is zoned as R1. This property has a second house on it with a kitchen, bath, full utilities and single bedroom that is being rented to several people.

Per R1 zoning.

There are several violations

Property in Zone R-1 may be used for the following accessory uses:
-- Accessory buildings and structures customarily used in conjunction therewith.
-- Animals, domestic and wild, maintained or kept as pets or for personal use as provided in Part 3 of Chapter 22.52.
-- Building materials, storage of, use in the construction of a building or building project, during the construction and 30 days thereafter, including the contractor’s temporary office, provided that any lot or parcel of land so used shall be a part of the building project, or on property adjoining the construction site.
-- Detached living quarters on the same premises as, and not less than 20 feet from a single-family residence for the use of temporary guests or servants of the occupants of such residence provided:
1. That such quarters have no kitchen or kitchen facilities; VIOLATION
2. That such quarters are not rented or otherwise used as a separate dwelling; VIOLATION
3. That such quarters are established on a lot or parcel of land that does not contain a second unit; and
4. That such quarters are established on a lot or parcel of land having not less than one and one-half times the required area, except that said quarters may be established on any lot or parcel of land containing 10,000 square feet or more. VIOLATION

Regards,

Concerned Citizen



You could have bought a couple big speakers, a couple good drivers, a power amp and solved this in less than hour.

[willie pete]

Damn...it's been going on for 10 years? :o .....do you own or rent? I guess if you rent it may be easier to move, if you own or are buying your house it may be more difficult

[silver solution]

LMMFAO at some of the comments. Move, your a chicken shit blah blah blah.

So let me get this straight people, you think I should just STFU and take it? Well kiss my ass. What should I have done? Gone over and shove a 12 gauge in someones face? Beat the hell out of them? All of those result in ME getting abused by the law and I'M not the one at fault.

Some of you people amaze me and make me want to puke. ;)


Buddha made a good point though. Are the neighbors loud enough to keep you awake on their own or only loud enough to irritate your dogs who then keep you awake. Cause if it is just your dogs then it really isn't their fault.


It's more than just that obviously. None of these people have jobs. They litter the streets with their POS cars, their friends show up to buy drugs at all time of the night and on and on and on.

I guess I learned my final lesson posting a thread concerning something I'm personally involved with. You all take care now.
Selling drugs and staying up at night breaks not one of God Laws.

There nothing wrong with making a living.

Not working well not all people are good slaves again no crime.

[Mouse]

Yep. Couldn't have said it better myself! ;D


Yup move General. I think the General feels moving is giving up. It's not, it's bettering your future! Get out of there man while you can.

I'm working on doing the same. With a little luck, I've got a spot, maybe next couple of weeks I'll be out of this place. Right now there's another helicopter with a spot light going around. Can't wait until I don't see that anymore.


Everyone has been telling Herr General to move forever. Pasadena is a great place, if it weren't for everyone else living there. I remember living in my little "middle/upper class" neighborhood 4 miles from the beach and 6 blocks from the gangbangers. My neighbors on the other side of my nice swimming hole had a family of mestizo's living in their garage in my nice "middle/upper class" neighborhood. There was a shooting less than 30 yards from my house. There were fucking helicopters circling almost continuously overhead with search beams from Friday night through Sunday pretty much every week. Less than a half mile from my house the heliCOPter was chasing some criminals and the criminals pulled a rifle and fired on the helicopter (cudos to them); the heliCOPter had to emergency land as it had been hit several times. There were people pushing shopping carts going through my trash every week. There was just a wonderful diverse society, rich in flavor and rife with violence and the potential for violence. I had gypsies banging on my door almost every day trying to use children to sell me magazines and candy bars and support for underprivileged peoples. "Look esse, here is my badge ID from the nonprofit". I had these people threaten me with gang retribution when I told them to get off my property. I pulled a gun on one of them to make it clear.

If you live in babylon and you have not the sense to leave, then do not complain of your neighbors. If you have proof your neighbors are trafficking in drugs, and you believe this to be somehow immoral, then gather evidence and talk to your neighbor and/or call the JBT's.

I would bet that your neighbors/renters are young, potentially illegals and probably work in restaurants or some other odd shift work that means they are most active after midnight. They have done nothing wrong other than littering your pristine L.A. neighborhood with their filthy old cars and their anchor babies.

I am disturbed that someone like you would call the JBT's over a problem, unless you are currently "for sale" in which case, it makes more sense.

[k-os]

Oh General, if only you had listened to me when I expressed the same outrage contained in this thread.

|--0--|

[silver solution]

Call the department of safety anonymously and report that you see rats in the back of that lot when you go for your morning jog. It works and let them determine what is legal and not.


Lying is wrong and make you much worse that your neighbour.

[solid]

If you live in babylon and you have not the sense to leave, then do not complain of your neighbors.


Mouse, your post really hits home. Well said. We all live where we do by choice, not much accomplished by complaining. I'm in Oakland, not much better than Pasadena, could arguably be worse actually.

I think a lot of us want to leave, but it can be hard to make that change. We want to change our surroundings, which we can't. So, it's leave or shut up about it. ;)

General...leave. ;D I think you will be happy if you do.

[Gaillo]

OK, everyone...
Since The General has put in an "Account Deletion Request", and can't be reached by PM or other means, here's my PM message to him that wouldn't go through:




[b]Delete my account.
People telling me to move, fuck that.


Sober up, bitch! ;D
Seriously... you got GOOD advice here from people who KNOW about what you're going through. I left the big city THREE times and moved back to metro shitville, before figuring out the grind-you-down LIE of urban life. Do yourself a favor, my friend... find yourself a relaxed, easier way of life... somewhere remote where you can find some peace of mind, away from the losers and fuckups! Somewhere you can live FREE and surround yourself with people who TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER. Lord knows, you CAN afford it...
GoD - if you REALLY want your account deleted and want to leave this great group of people, please email JQP or madfranks with your fucked up request - I want nothing to do with it.
-Gaillo

I stand by those words... and urge GoD to reconsider. This place will be LESS without him.
-Gaillo

[Neuro]

Yes GoD needs to stay here, and move away from his shitty neighbors... Peace of mind is the most precious thing...

[ximmy]

I say don't delete accounts when requested too... for at least a week (maybe longer)... they pluck us... we pluck them... LOL

Please come back GoD... :P

[Book]

I'm in Oakland



Any white people remaining in Oakland (http://highschoolshooting.blogspot.com/2009/03/cop-killer-in-oakland-california-kills.html) except you?

:)

[osoab]

Lighten up Francis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrllCZw8jiM

GoD since you might read this, you let this metastasize for 10 years. You should have nipped it in the bud @ the very beginning when you the new tenants moved in.

There are many other ways you could make their life a living hell. Calling in the "authorities" is the low way to go.

[woodman]

General, since you are in a zoned area, you are probably the one in violation. Barking dogs are a public nuisance and are probably making your neighbors miserable. If your dogs are keeping you up at night, imagine your neighbors frustration at having to listen to them bark away and not have any control at all over the situation.

[Awoke]

I think you guys are way off on this.

I have a nice house in a blue collar neighborhood. I take care of it, and cut the grass, paint, replace windows, pressure wash the siding, plant a garden, rake the leaves, shovel the snow, keep it tidy, etc.

Everyone else on our street does the same thing. Except for one house, which has been sectioned off internally into 4 apartments geared towards low life scum bags that all live off welfare.

I was there first, and I should not feel obligated to move. You have no idea what is it like to drive home after working all day and you see a Jerry Springer congregation of about 15 white trash losers all smoking and yelling and ignoring their baby carriages while they drink beer that my (unjustly and manditorally extracted) tax dollars helped pay for. And while I go to work every day, they do nothing but test fresh air and leech off the system and make the neighborhood look trashy.

Until you have lived around shithead dirtbag drug addicted wannabe-gangster trash, you will never understand what GoD is going through. The GSusers here are saying "Dog barking? Cry like a baby!" and "Move out of babylon" and all this other stuff that is frankly very surprising to me. If any one of you people was living with the sort of neighbors that GoD described, you'd be freaking out and taking action somehow. I know I would.

You may not agree with the fact that GoD brought some zoning violations to the attention of the authorities, but IMO that was the best non-violent way to handle it. It has been an ongoing saga, and the (douchebag) owners are seemingly not interested in doing anything to correct the problem.

Why should GoD have done anything differently? Should he have stood at the window at 3am with the lights on, pumping his remington 870? Should he open the door and yell "Hey, shut up, my dogs are trying to sleep here"? Should he approach these drug dealing low life bluepill assholes and try to tell them what hours he would prefer they conduct their illicit business?

I think you did the right thing, GoD. None of us like the system, but if you're in a corner like that, use the system. I have got you back on this one. These guys are way off.

[RJB]

I feel sorry for your neighbors... Having to live next door to such a gossipping, busy-body... ;)


And I'm joking around, You're a neighbor on this forum who I like. Don't delete. don't delete. :)

[undgrd]

Awoke...I think the reason people are piling on ol' G.o.D. is because of his unwavering an uncompromising post history regarding whatever he's passionate about.

IMO of G.o.D., if one is not on board with G.o.D., one is an idiot and not worthy of the effort to correct their flawed position.

With G.o.D. so against .gov intervention, seeing this is like seeing Bernanke pay for dinner with Silver or Emanuel enjoy a pork chop.

[horseshoe3]

http://coloradomediationtv.com/Assets/HomeOwners_Association.jpg

http://justingoldman.com/badge2.jpg

General of the Homeowners Association

:D


Yah, you're one to talk. ;D

[Spectrism]

A neighbor that rents to lowlife drug dealers and does not care about the "peace" of the neighborhood is not a good neighbor. Such a landlord is a hazzard. I think GoD dealt with it properly. That is probably what I would have done. Having a watchdog alerted all night, every night is a bit stressing.

Another thing to consider is mounting a high resolution video camera up on a post and let them know you are filming acivity and faces. If they are dealing drugs, they will do at least one of two things: they will vacate and/or they will come to take the camera down. If they come to your place, the dogs get some exercise and you may even get some good practice with moving targets. Get a good flak jacket.

[Neuro]

People has just given advice according to their POW, I understand that his neighbors are a pound in the ass, but if he didn't want peoples opinion he shouldn't have asked... GoD has far more in common with people here than in any other place on the interwebs, he should consider that...

[Ash_Williams]

Solutions without the gov:

-Move to somewhere with a backyard big enough that you can't see or hear the assholes that live in the area. This is the only way to live, in my opinion.

-You rent your neighbor's attachment to keep scum from living there. If that's too much of an expense, you could always sublease it or something to some tenants that you don't mind.

-Make some other deal with your neighbor. Give him a couple hundred in exchange for approving his next tenants. Or find some legal way to be so f-ing annoying that he'll make a deal with you to stop.

Playing the bylaw game doesn't work when the other guy decides to fight back. Guaranteed you're both in violation of some idiotic laws and no one is going to 'win'. Eventually you'll have people calling the fuzz when one of your visitors is parked more than 6" from the curb, just to fuck with you.

[mightymanx]

Man everyone is acting like they got stabbed in the dick or somthing.

I think people here realize that the situation in a major California city is a death trap just on that premise alone. Now combign this with having shitty neighbors to the point that it is required to rely on .gov to just have a normal life living like this is unthinkable in most peoples mind around here. If you have been tolerating this for 10 years and you live in the California death trap personaly I wonder why would you stay other than the "cage fright" of packing up and moving.

I think that the drama started when people were blunt in their delivery which most around here are including the legendary bluntness of the OP.

So without further ado:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYLsyNBnE5M

[k-os]

Hey General of Darkness. Getting honest, blunt and contrary feedback from people on here is no reason to delete your account. It's not too late. Don't go.

[solid]

Hey General of Darkness. Getting honest, blunt and contrary feedback from people on here is no reason to delete your account. It's not too late. Don't go.


Yeah General, please reconsider. You are a very valuable member of this forum, imo, it wouldn't be the same here without you. |--0--|

Being that I'm in a similar situation, I'm choosing to move. The reason is, I've learned, you really can't change a neighborhood. Even if you get those neighbors evicted, who's to say the new ones will be any better? They could be worse in fact.

Moving is not giving up. I'd recommend sitting down and writing out all the pros and cons of moving vs. staying where you are. This is what I did, and once I did, it really became clear that moving to a more rural area that is quiet is the best solution.

We all know things are going down the toilet. It's time to take action before it's too late. Life is too short to have to worry about the drama of bad neighbors.

[Awoke]

MISHKO - DON'T BE A PUSSY








We need you here.

[mick silver]

a few years back i live just like you are doing now . a church bought the house next to mine an fill it with a taco crew . me an my wife keep our place up , one of the nicer homes there .... they never mow party all night . well one day we hadl it .it time to make our move we already had the land so i got moving build a nice home , did the house our way . call a friend who sell house an 2 weeks later the house was sold . we have never look back . i would not trade what i have for nothing . a peace of mind go along way . plus you said you have you mom living close both of you can make the move . do it for you your mom an dogs . i am not junping on you , everyone on this forum doesnot need shit like this we all are better then the stuff that has happen to us all

[EE_]

GoD, imo, you need a good stab in the dick for acting like this!
You have always come across as a guy that speaks his mind on any matter, sometimes harshly. You bring up this topic for discussion only to hear the frank opinions of members, and you get offended by them? wtf?
And then you want to quit?
Get over your butt hurt, apologize and we'll forgive you.
EE

PS. I would have recommended contacting the owner with your complaint before contacting authorities.

[Road Runner]

I have tried to post here with no luck, so hope I don't end up with several of them!! ;)

Just an idea: If you have the money why don't you try and buy the property and then you would have total control of what goes on there. If you don't want to move, this would make way more sense. Also I noticed that you did not contact either the owners or tenants about your complaints. Why did you let it fester so long? The only problem I see now if you could purchase the property is that you have ratted, so possibly wouldn't be able to rent it out yourself. I personally don't believe authorities should be used at all. You should handle problems upfront, honest and to the person causing you the problem. Don't be angry at your friends here at GSUS. Sometimes it is hard to hear you could be wrong, it is best to listen, take a few days to think and then look in the mirror and ask yourself, am I wrong, if so admit it and go on. We all do and say things we regret, but they are good learning tools. Pick up and go on. Don't give up.

[Awoke]

No aplogies required, IMO.

Also, EE_, he tried contacting the owners countless times over the last few years if I remember correctly.

[solid]

Any white people remaining in Oakland (http://highschoolshooting.blogspot.com/2009/03/cop-killer-in-oakland-california-kills.html) except you?

:)


Right Book..us white folks here are all victims of the evil black man. :oo-->

I need a hug. Want to get together for some cry time? We can trade blankies and whine about being victims. :oo--> ;D |--0--|

[BabushkaLady]

OK, everyone...
Since The General has put in an "Account Deletion Request", and can't be reached by PM or other means, here's my PM message to him that wouldn't go through:




[b]Delete my account.
People telling me to move, fuck that.


Sober up, bitch! ;D
Seriously... you got GOOD advice here from people who KNOW about what you're going through. I left the big city THREE times and moved back to metro shitville, before figuring out the grind-you-down LIE of urban life. Do yourself a favor, my friend... find yourself a relaxed, easier way of life... somewhere remote where you can find some peace of mind, away from the losers and fuckups! Somewhere you can live FREE and surround yourself with people who TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER. Lord knows, you CAN afford it...
GoD - if you REALLY want your account deleted and want to leave this great group of people, please email JQP or madfranks with your fucked up request - I want nothing to do with it.
-Gaillo

I stand by those words... and urge GoD to reconsider. This place will be LESS without him.
-Gaillo


Everything else aside with the General, a Mod posting this actually Bothers me!

Yeah, may be just my opinion, but I consider PM's and emails and account requests as PRIVATE!!

[Libertytree]

General my friend, ya really need to step back for minute and ponder on this one. Just because everyone might not say things that jibe 100% with what you think ain't good reason to take off. Hell, I wish I had an oz of silver for everytime I heard you express your need to move! To be honest, I think there might also be a bit of frustration with some members here with you because of the fact that you have the means to move and don't, yet stay and keep complaining about the neighbors and the city in general. Many here are stuck where they're at for various reasons and don't have the option of gettin' out of Dodge.

No sense leavin' home....even if it a crazy zoo. ;D

[osoab]

Why I'm NOT leaving GSUS (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/why-i'm-not-leaving-gsus/msg104653/#msg104653)




Because the people that post here ARE GSUS. We fucking built this place from DAY ONE, and where would I go? I'll admit that I visit GLP for some of the news and ultra crazy stuff, but other than that it might visit other sights to look at the market, etc

GSUS, is made of up real fucking people, and some trolls, but 95% real people with ideas and truth. Some people I like, some people l'd like to ram my fist in their stomach.

If you pussies wanna bail out, that's fine, and if GSUS gets so fucked up that you can't post, I'm just going to get a ham radio. But some people act like this is intentional. If I had the skills to help and fix this I would.

OT - JQP, if you want I now someone that CAN fix this, but I'd have to pay him to do it, which I don't have a problem to do, he's a good friend.

[Low_five]

Vageneral of darkness

[Book]

Being that I'm in a similar situation, I'm choosing to move.



http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UzlpmHLiClQ/TJqFg3yyWpI/AAAAAAAAACc/EIiHmKNGois/s1600/Yukmouth.jpeg

Don't be hatin' on your black Oakland neighbors Solid. Just move to that Safety Zone (http://www.youthradio.org/files/yr_media/00/00/00/00/71/87.jpg) homey!

:)

[midnight rambler]

Meth labs should be blown up with the tweakers inside. Solve all the problems at once.
Murder is evil and wrong.


Trust me, not when it involves tweakers. Best to do them before they do you. This is from personal first hand experience. Meth heads are the lowest form of life on the planet, and when they combine meth with alcohol (which you may never detect due to the way the two counter-effect each other) you better fucking be quick on the draw because such a varmint WILL kill you without any compunction whatsoever. A tweaker who's been drinking has ZERO inhibitions. A huffer of spray paint who'd been drinking is equally as dangerous, but at least those are easier to spot.

Self-defense is NOT murder.

[midnight rambler]

General, since you are in a zoned area, you are probably the one in violation. Barking dogs are a public nuisance and are probably making your neighbors miserable. If your dogs are keeping you up at night, imagine your neighbors frustration at having to listen to them bark away and not have any control at all over the situation.


At night his dogs are in his house.

[Antonio]

Meth labs should be blown up with the tweakers inside. Solve all the problems at once.
Murder is evil and wrong.


Trust me, not when it involves tweakers. Best to do them before they do you. This is from personal first hand experience. Meth heads are the lowest form of life on the planet, and when they combine meth with alcohol (which you may never detect due to the way the two counter-effect each other) you better fucking be quick on the draw because such a varmint WILL kill you without any compunction whatsoever. A tweaker who's been drinking has ZERO inhibitions. A huffer of spray paint who'd been drinking is equally as dangerous, but at least those are easier to spot.

Self-defense is NOT murder.

Ditto. Whenever I had coke cut with meth by the rotten dealers I was so disgusted with the teeth-grinding and the total inability to sleep for 24hrs after the last snort that I was close to flushing the shit down the toilet. Meth,crack,booze,LSD/PCP,benzos/barbs during withdrawal make people lose their minds.

[midnight rambler]

Meth labs should be blown up with the tweakers inside. Solve all the problems at once.
Murder is evil and wrong.


Trust me, not when it involves tweakers. Best to do them before they do you. This is from personal first hand experience. Meth heads are the lowest form of life on the planet, and when they combine meth with alcohol (which you may never detect due to the way the two counter-effect each other) you better fucking be quick on the draw because such a varmint WILL kill you without any compunction whatsoever. A tweaker who's been drinking has ZERO inhibitions. A huffer of spray paint who'd been drinking is equally as dangerous, but at least those are easier to spot.

Self-defense is NOT murder.

Ditto. Whenever I had coke cut with meth by the rotten dealers I was so disgusted with the teeth-grinding and the total inability to sleep for 24hrs after the last snort that I was close to flushing the shit down the toilet. Meth,crack,booze,LSD/PCP,benzos/barbs during withdrawal make people lose their minds.




Had a conversation with the Sheriff one day. Told the Sheriff, "I *just missed* blowing (the tweaker's) head CLEAN OFF with double 00 buck from my 12 ga. at a range of seven yards. I was *this close* - seriously." (the tweaker's head was precisely where the buckshot pattern ended up within microseconds of when the shot was fired) The Sheriff's response as he shook his head: "Too bad - you'd have done a service to the community."

All of the above is true, every bit of it. The Sheriff at the time was Doyne Bailey.

[osoab]

Is GSUS the best forum on the net? (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/is-gsus-the-best-forum-on-the-net/)



Just to start off, I have no dog in this hunt, other than I'm here and I post a bit and I communicate with people here via the net.

What I’ve noticed is that people post freely, other than chimping out on other members. If I took GLP and the original GIM and merged them together with an open mind I’d create GSUS. For the most part discussions are awesome, unless I threaten to stab someone in the dick.

GSUS has pretty much been built by the members, and it’s become something that I can’t really explain. Yeah, we’ve have our ups and downs, but the MEMBERS are the ones that have given this place life, and I’m really glad to be apart of it.

Good times, oh yeah, DOOM IS COMING, and I love the lot of you silly fuckers.

Mishko

[osoab]

HAHAHAHA, my POS neighbor is in cuffs and my dobie scared the k-9 dog (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/hahahaha-my-pos-neighor-in-cuffs-and-my-dobie-scared-the-k-9-dog/)


What a Friday night.

This is making my night, I'll give details as this goes down.



Please close my account (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/please-close-my-account/)


It's been about 60 days since some one did a public chimpout wanting their account closed, so I figured I'd start a thread about it.

We NEED some DRAMA people, all this getting along stuff is Bullshit. fucking learning new stuff, getting good news stories etc, blah blah blah.


Oh yeah, Merry Christmas. ;D






OK, I'm outta here also. (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/ok-i'm-outta-here-also/)



I have to walk the dogs.

When I come back. I want a marriage proposal from K-os, I want my truck washed, and I also want a potato gun, because potato guns are cool. ;D

You sonsabitchs got 20 minutes, maybe 30 if stop to chit chat with people. Now CHOP CHOP, move it people.




The coolest part about Gold-Silver.us (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/the-coolest-part-about-gold-silver-us/)



Yeah there was a bit of a ruff start, but I will say this.

"Regardless of religion or race, NO ONE GETS A FREE PASS".

Good job to everyone. This wasn't just built by the owner, he gave us a home, and gave us the opportunity to build what we have today, and it was built by the members. I've built a lot of great things in my life, but this was the first time that the lunatics ran the insane asylum and it turned out really cool.

Here's to all you buttnuts. http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb260/babyj3nb/moocomments/guys/beer/cheers-emoticon.gif

[midnight rambler]

For you osoab -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD8mzZun5wo

[dys]

To presume to control when other people come and go from their own house is the epitome of communist thinking. Also, one can't 'litter' a driveway with a car. If anyone has a right to complain, it would be your neighbors complaining about YOU considering that you cannot control your dogs.

dys

ps- nobody likes a tattle tail.

[Awoke]

Wow. I wholeheartedly disagree with everyone in this thread except for GoD.

Why the fuck should GoD make concessions for a bunch of drug dealing shitheads that are living in an illegal apartment?

He is NOT THE ONE breaking laws and disrupting the neighborhood here. I am curious to know what the other neighbors would say about the drug house if they were here to discuss this thread.

I can't believe that people here are defending the "honour" of drug dealers that are running a business out of an illegal apartment. No one has addressed the questions I posed in my other post above.

[Antonio]

Mishko is lucky he ain`t in da Bronx. Here niggers and spics would just shove a rusty shank up his ass and continue their conversation.


I had a neighbour in Brighton Beach who was a Russian Jew member of some spic drug-dealing gang. He was 1 floor below me and it was him complaining about my loud piano-playing during the day which kept him awake after his all-night coke parties with whores. The dude was also on roids and he drank. He threatened to kill me several times and I told him to fuck off. Once he started screaming at me under my windows, I looked out the window and before I could return a line of choice Russian and English curses he threw a brick thru my window, broke it and the glass shards hit my face. I grabbed a big custom-made machete, showed him it to him thru the broken window and promised to gut him like a fish.

It took all my willpower to refrain from running out and chopping up the motherfucker but call the cops instead.
They came, wrote down a report and left. I went to the precinct where a detective informed me that his mom has filed counter-charges that I had assulted her. The mom was some Russian mafia cunt driving a nice Mercedes. The detective advised me not to pursue the assault charges. I knew he was bribed so I let the whole thing go.

In a few weeks I got a knock on the door. I looked thru the peephole and there was my neighbour crying and holding a bottle of wine.
I opened the door. He was crying and asked me for a corkscrew. I gave him the corkscrew, he opened the bottle,returned the corkscrew and tearfully left.

Never had any problems with him again, could`ve been killed or gone to jail for killing that POS.

[sirgonzo420]

Mishko is lucky he ain`t in da Bronx. Here niggers and spics would just shove a rusty shank up his ass and continue their conversation.


I had a neighbour in Brighton Beach who was a Russian Jew member of some spic drug-dealing gang. He was 1 floor below me and it was him complaining about my loud piano-playing during the day which kept him awake after his all-night coke parties with whores. The dude was also on roids and he drank. He threatened to kill me several times and I told him to fuck off. Once he started screaming at me under my windows, I looked out the window and before I could return a line of choice Russian and English curses he threw a brick thru my window, broke it and the glass shards hit my face. I grabbed a big custom-made machete, showed him it to him thru the broken window and promised to gut him like a fish.

It took all my willpower to refrain from running out and chopping up the motherfucker but call the cops instead.
They came, wrote down a report and left. I went to the precinct where a detective informed me that his mom has filed counter-charges that I had assulted her. The mom was some Russian mafia cunt driving a nice Mercedes. The detective advised me not to pursue the assault charges. I knew he was bribed so I let the whole thing go.

In a few weeks I got a knock on the door. I looked thru the peephole and there was my neighbour crying and holding a bottle of wine.
I opened the door. He was crying and asked me for a corkscrew. I gave him the corkscrew, he opened the bottle,returned the corkscrew and tearfully left.

Never had any problems with him again, could`ve been killed or gone to jail for killing that POS.


Antonio, I love you stories.


Don't ever leave.


lol

[woodman]

General, since you are in a zoned area, you are probably the one in violation. Barking dogs are a public nuisance and are probably making your neighbors miserable. If your dogs are keeping you up at night, imagine your neighbors frustration at having to listen to them bark away and not have any control at all over the situation.


At night his dogs are in his house.


That is different then. If the neighbors are so loud at night so as to keep his dogs barking, I think he has a valid complaint. I don't know how I would handle it myself but I don't blame him a bit for doing whatever he can. A man needs to sleep.

[Low_five]

My neighbors dump their crab pots in the front yard, dont bother to remove the bait and one can observe the rats scurry to neighboring households. Celebratory gunfire is not uncommon, and people always back into my driveway after a fresh snow, compacting tire tracks that i cant shovel up, which turns in to ice, so it looks like icemans car chimpedout in my driveway. Theres nobody to call even if I wanted to report them to the authorities for the greater good.

[Low_five]

General, since you are in a zoned area, you are probably the one in violation. Barking dogs are a public nuisance and are probably making your neighbors miserable. If your dogs are keeping you up at night, imagine your neighbors frustration at having to listen to them bark away and not have any control at all over the situation.


At night his dogs are in his house.


That is different then. If the neighbors are so loud at night so as to keep his dogs barking, I think he has a valid complaint. I don't know how I would handle it myself but I don't blame him a bit for doing whatever he can. A man needs to sleep.


Its not anyones fault that his dogs are barking, if you want quiet dogs, discipline it in to them.

[JDRock]

WHERE the fvk do some of you LIVE??...i dont even have a fvkin house key...no locks...NOTHING.

oh, there arnt any niggers of spics allowed in my area....

The FIRST rule of preparing for the endgame is where you choose to live...get the hail out of minority infested places and live with Americans.

[midnight rambler]

Its not anyones fault that his dogs are barking, if you want quiet dogs, discipline it in to them.


Both of his dogs sleep inside his house, one sleeps in his bedroom and the other in the LR (but both have free run of his house). You're being asinine (an inexcusable failure to exercise intelligence or sound judgment). The dogs are doing EXACTLY what they should be doing within his house. To *discipline* his dogs for doing their JOB is just plain stupid. Get a clue.

GoD is like me - I sleep soundly because I know my dogs are watching my six 24/7. If they're barking at night, then I need to be paying attention to that. Ultimately they're my meatshields. NO ONE can get past my older one without killing her - she's the most absolutely fearless dog I've ever seen. I've NEVER seen the level of aggression/fight drive/offense this bitch has - it's fucking unreal. I've always had to be careful with her because once 'loaded' she would throw herself into a situation with complete disregard to any danger. And she 'loads' so quickly I have to be careful ALL the time with her when walking her - it only takes one or two nanoseconds for her to EXPLODE. The bitch drags me around despite having a pinch collar on her, she seems to thrive on pain. Her nickname is Crazy Gracie. Unless and until she's agitated she's the calmest and most quiet dog you've ever seen and is completely social around strangers - NO nerviness. She's great with kids. This is the dog I'm trying to replicate, and it may take me years to do it, but that's my goal.

[freespirit]

my two cents....

i have good neighbors right now, but in my old place i had a crackhead move in directly above me, and would pace back and forth like he was training for riverdance or something...@3am! the first time, i went and knocked on his door to explain that i didn't appreciate him waking me up in the middle of the night, and ask him to quit stomping around. he started yelling shit at me and saying "don't tell me what to do in my own place, F*ck U, you don't know who you're messing with, etc.

i warned him he wasn't going to be the first person to be sorry for pissing me off, and he thought i was joking. Another neighbor in the building told him the next day to be very careful, and that i was a good man, but wouldn't hesitate to drag him out of his apt and throw him over the balcony if provoked. the crackhead came and apologized to me the very next day, said he wanted no trouble, etc...i shook his hand and said for both our sakes, i hope this is the last of it.

it wasn't...

i was exercising every ounce of control i had to not seriously injure the SOB for another few days, then phoned the landlord. the nightly disturbances began to increase in both volume and frequency the very next night.

in the end, i walked into the landlords office and told him that if he didn't want someone to get seriously hurt, he had best do something about the situation, and i mean NOW! later that day, an eviction notice was delivered to the offending neighbor, and he was gone shortly after that.

does that make me a bad person? no, it doesn't. at all!

GoD has similar neighbors it seems, and i feel for him. if they are causing a disturbance, noise pollution, etc, he has every right to do what he can to rectify the situation. shame on those who told him he was wrong for protecting his peace and serenity. ten years is a long frikkin time to put up with that sort of crap, and i have to say, he has more self control than i have, and i think i have a fair bit of it.

we all hate the gov, but really, what the hell is he supposed to do? he obviously doesn't WANT to move, nor should he have to...is he supposed to go threaten them, annoy them, lower himself to their level?? get real! he did the right thing by finding a solution that kept him from a personal confrontation, and possibly being charged with assault, or possibly worse...

I WHOLE-HEARTEDLY AGREE WITH GoD, and Awoke!

if the a-hole neighbors had any respect for others, they would try to keep the noise to a minimum after midnight. apparently, they have no respect for others, and therefore reap what they sow...

GoD----

you are one of the more valuable members on this site, and will be greatly missed if you do decide to leave for good..

PLEASE RECONSIDER!

[dys]

You know I respect you, but we are on opposite sides of the fence here. Let me explain my position.
The first thing is that the only allegations the General made were that:
1. They come and go at all hours of the night.
2. They 'litter' their driveway with cars (I think he said driveway, if he said street I don't think it changes anything).

I am making the assumption that there is nothing more to this than General alleged. If they are having wild parties at all hours during the week and waking people up that have to go to work, that would change things. If there are naked strippers running around outdoors, that would change things. If there are loudmouths screaming filthy language that kids can hear, that would change things. You know me, I would not support any of those things, because they infringe on other people's rights. However, what those people do in the privacy of their own home is none of General's business (or anyone else's for that matter). It is by no means a concession to 'permit' people to do what they choose to do when they are inside of their home, even if he might not agree with it.

Second, drug dealing is NOT illegal. No victim=no crime, even the Supreme Court says this. http://marcstevens.net/component/content/article/52-standing-cross-reference.html However, code enforcement IS illegal as it is antithetical to private property rights and akin to extortion and constructive fraud. So by notifying the code enforcers, General endorsed criminal behaviour. You know the whole beam in the eye parable? Appropo.

Last thing which involves Christianity, so if that is not your brand of vodka skip this part: attempting to control other people is what witchcraft is about, it is the very definition of witchcraft. We all do it, I have been guilty of it myself, but that does not make it right.

dys


Wow. I wholeheartedly disagree with everyone in this thread except for GoD.

Why the fuck should GoD make concessions for a bunch of drug dealing shitheads that are living in an illegal apartment?

He is NOT THE ONE breaking laws and disrupting the neighborhood here. I am curious to know what the other neighbors would say about the drug house if they were here to discuss this thread.

I can't believe that people here are defending the "honour" of drug dealers that are running a business out of an illegal apartment. No one has addressed the questions I posed in my other post above.

[ximmy]

The General hasn't provided us with all details... chances are these neighbors are pretty bad...

[zap]

I won't apologize for my comment, the sneaky way you did it is what bothers me, and besides your the one who is anti-establishment and very adamant about it, and then you hide away and report them anonymously, I don't advocate the behavior of the neighbors, I guess that is all you could think of doing?

I am not in your shoes.

[dys]

The problem I have with your post is that it is comparing apples to oranges. Loud pacing at 3am in an apartment building where someone lives below you is something that is quite a bit more offensive than simply driving to and from a house that is completely seperate from another house. Now, like I said if they are beeping their horn constantly or crashing into barrels all the time, screeching their tires and doing doughnuts, etc... that might be different. But just driving? There is just not that much noise associated with pulling one's car into a driveway and walking into a house...especially from the perspective of someone that doesn't even live in the same house.
I guess my main issue is that I don't believe based on the General's posts that his neighbors are guilty of anything more than living a lifestyle that he doesn't approve of. If I was a landlord and I had good tenants that didn't destroy my house and paid the rent on time, if someone called me to complain that they were coming and going at all hours of the night I would probably laugh at them. What do I care, what does anyone care, about what hours they keep? Of course, the caveat is that if they are throwing keg parties and doing property damage, that's a completely different story. I find that pretty unlikely in this case, though... why would a landlord keep a tenant for 10 years if they aren't good tenants?

dys


my two cents....

i have good neighbors right now, but in my old place i had a crackhead move in directly above me, and would pace back and forth like he was training for riverdance or something...@3am! the first time, i went and knocked on his door to explain that i didn't appreciate him waking me up in the middle of the night, and ask him to quit stomping around. he started yelling shit at me and saying "don't tell me what to do in my own place, F*ck U, you don't know who you're messing with, etc.

i warned him he wasn't going to be the first person to be sorry for pissing me off, and he thought i was joking. Another neighbor in the building told him the next day to be very careful, and that i was a good man, but wouldn't hesitate to drag him out of his apt and throw him over the balcony if provoked. the crackhead came and apologized to me the very next day, said he wanted no trouble, etc...i shook his hand and said for both our sakes, i hope this is the last of it.

it wasn't...

i was exercising every ounce of control i had to not seriously injure the SOB for another few days, then phoned the landlord. the nightly disturbances began to increase in both volume and frequency the very next night.

in the end, i walked into the landlords office and told him that if he didn't want someone to get seriously hurt, he had best do something about the situation, and i mean NOW! later that day, an eviction notice was delivered to the offending neighbor, and he was gone shortly after that.

does that make me a bad person? no, it doesn't. at all!

GoD has similar neighbors it seems, and i feel for him. if they are causing a disturbance, noise pollution, etc, he has every right to do what he can to rectify the situation. shame on those who told him he was wrong for protecting his peace and serenity. ten years is a long frikkin time to put up with that sort of crap, and i have to say, he has more self control than i have, and i think i have a fair bit of it.

we all hate the gov, but really, what the hell is he supposed to do? he obviously doesn't WANT to move, nor should he have to...is he supposed to go threaten them, annoy them, lower himself to their level?? get real! he did the right thing by finding a solution that kept him from a personal confrontation, and possibly being charged with assault, or possibly worse...

I WHOLE-HEARTEDLY AGREE WITH GoD, and Awoke!

if the a-hole neighbors had any respect for others, they would try to keep the noise to a minimum after midnight. apparently, they have no respect for others, and therefore reap what they sow...

GoD----

you are one of the more valuable members on this site, and will be greatly missed if you do decide to leave for good..

PLEASE RECONSIDER!

[RJB]

You know I respect you, but we are on opposite sides of the fence here. Let me explain my position.
The first thing is that the only allegations the General made were that:
1. They come and go at all hours of the night.
2. They 'litter' their driveway with cars (I think he said driveway, if he said street I don't think it changes anything).

I am making the assumption that there is nothing more to this than General alleged.That's about how I see it. I've had annoying neighbors. You can either laugh at them or stew about it for years. Laughing is healthier.

[Osaka]

There are people coming and going from 1 - 3 am, and my dogs go ape over it, so it's hard to get a decent night of sleep.



Your inability to manage your dogs seems to be the problem.

[freespirit]

However, what those people do in the privacy of their own home is none of General's business (or anyone else's for that matter).


Absolutely....

right up to the point it where it is causing a serious enough problem to...

A- make GoD take such measures...

B- affect him enough to be posting here about it.

personally, i would have thought he would have found a little more sympathy amongst his friends here. i don't expect anyone to apologize for anything they've posted, we all have our opinions, and thank god there are places like this one where we can feel free enough to express them.

IMO--

i think GoD is an intelligent, sane, and fairly rational person who was obviously at the end of his rope, and did the best thing he could think of to remedy the situation. it's not like it happened just one time, he's been enduring this situation for more than ten years remember...thats a long time to be putting up with someone else's shit.

sounds like a man who has explored his options, and did the best he could with a bad situation....

what more could anyone ask of him, or any of us for that matter?

[osoab]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZBPu7jJbJU

:morph:

[dys]

I don't understand how you came to the conclusion that his neighbors infringed upon his rights in some way. He never said that they did, what else can we do but go by what he said? It seems to me that if I was going to start a thread complaining about my neighbors, I probably wouldn't leave out the part where they actually did something wrong. I'm not trying to be rude, just trying to be logical.

dys





However, what those people do in the privacy of their own home is none of General's business (or anyone else's for that matter).


Absolutely....

right up to the point it where it is causing a serious enough problem to...

A- make GoD take such measures...

B- affect him enough to be posting here about it.

personally, i would have thought he would have found a little more sympathy amongst his friends here. i don't expect anyone to apologize for anything they've posted, we all have our opinions, and thank god there are places like this one where we can feel free enough to express them.

IMO--

i think GoD is an intelligent, sane, and fairly rational person who was obviously at the end of his rope, and did the best thing he could think of to remedy the situation. it's not like it happened just one time, he's been enduring this situation for more than ten years remember...thats a long time to be putting up with someone else's shit.

sounds like a man who has explored his options, and did the best he could with a bad situation....

what more could anyone ask of him, or any of us for that matter?

[freespirit]

like i said earlier, i have great neighbors now, but i have to disagree with the idea of cars coming in and out next door as not being noisy...when the neighbors pull into their driveway, i can hear the motor no problem. and the slamming of the car door is fairly noticeable too...even when i have the tv on, and i live in a brick house! lol mind you, it doesn't bother me, but it's not happening multiple times, in the middle of the night, either...

we don't know exactly how bad it is, or what else if anything is disturbing GoD's peace.

as for apples and oranges?

it's all fruit, man.

ps...i reviewed my posts on this thread, and failed to find anywhere that i had mentioned his rights being infringed on. the only references i made to "rights" was to say that he had the right to take the measures he took.

the neighbors, it would seem, were infringing upon his peace and serenity and his ability to enjoy his home. not his rights.

[midnight rambler]

To those of you busting GoD's balls - kindly explain to me why there are laws on the books regarding "breaching the peace" and "disturbing the peace". Also kindly explain to me why the old school definition of cops is "peace officers" or "officers of the peace" and why in the Texas Constitution all judges have the duty to be "conservators of the peace." TIA

"Civility is difficult to gain and is easily lost."

[solid]

we don't know exactly how bad it is, or what else if anything is disturbing GoD's peace.


It's really a tough situation to be in, and I feel for GoD. Neighbors can and do affect your quality of life. Something to thing about...if you have a meth lab next door, their house can catch fire and burn down your house too. Or, if a drug deal goes awry, you could take a stray bullet through a window, etc. Lot's of things can happen.

Yet, some good points about leaving the authorities out. Seems like the authorities can make things worse, in fact, a lot of times they do. This happened to me once. Boat folks like their privacy and to be left alone. Someone rated out a meth lab (yes they are on boats sometimes). The coast guard showed up with automatic weapons and raided a bunch of boats in the middle of the night. It was chaos, thankfully they didn't hit me on my boat. They didn't find anything either, they arrest some guy for having an illegal knife, total BS. They had to have a 'token' arrest though.

My suggestion to GoD to move, is that usually one neighbor is often a symptom of a larger problem. If a neighborhood starts to go downhill, it's best to move early rather than later. When blight moves into a neighborhood, everything goes down.

GoD, if you are reading, are you on good terms with your other neighbors? Maybe have a meeting with them, get their thoughts. Perhaps there's a way to deal with this without resorting to bringing in the blue uniforms.

[Antonio]

Mishko, "novoselye" in Russian means moving to a new house, "novosel" means literally "a person who just moved to a new house".

I assume that in Croatian it means the same thing. Follow your last name and move the fuck outta there.

My Slavic 2cents !

[vacuum]

General, while my advice was to move, I didn't criticize your decision. Just gave what I thought was the best advice.

[dys]

You believe you have the right (moral, ethical, whatever) to tell someone else how often and during what times they can come and go from their own property? You didn't say that although you seemed to infer it, so I'm asking you straight out if that is your position. IF that is your position, that is one of the most outrageous opinions that I have ever heard on this forum.

dys



like i said earlier, i have great neighbors now, but i have to disagree with the idea of cars coming in and out next door as not being noisy...when the neighbors pull into their driveway, i can hear the motor no problem. and the slamming of the car door is fairly noticeable too...even when i have the tv on, and i live in a brick house! lol mind you, it doesn't bother me, but it's not happening multiple times, in the middle of the night, either...

we don't know exactly how bad it is, or what else if anything is disturbing GoD's peace.

as for apples and oranges?

it's all fruit, man.

ps...i reviewed my posts on this thread, and failed to find anywhere that i had mentioned his rights being infringed on. the only references i made to "rights" was to say that he had the right to take the measures he took.

the neighbors, it would seem, were infringing upon his peace and serenity and his ability to enjoy his home. not his rights.

[Cebu_4_2]

I stick with the Department of Safety.

[freespirit]

i realize i may have left the impression that i endorsed his choice of method, this is not necessarily the case. i endorse him having the courage to take action, and not that i really know the man, but i feel if he had maybe taken a little longer to consider the options available, he may have chosen another means instead of approaching the authorities.

Solid, i understand why you and many others suggested he move, and you make many good points. I feel that regardless, he shouldn't HAVE to move. he has a stake in the neighborhood, whereas the offenders are the neighbors' tenants. to me, this kind of gives him the "home field advantage" so to speak.

in that regard, the tenants only have to save up first/last month's rent to relocate, and get the hell out of dodge...there would be a considerable expense involved for a homeowner to relocate. in addition the time involved in researching properties, the realtor's fees, the lawyer's fees, the moving costs (imagine the preps he has, he would probly have to take a week off work to move it without a hired company, lol )

with this in mind, i can fully understand his reluctance to consider relocation.

but on the other side of the coin, there is a distinct possibility that relocation, regardless of the aforementioned costs, could very well be a blessing in disguise. the idea of being able to relocate to the sticks, regardless of how good my neighbors are, almost makes me drool, and i would go to extreme lengths to do so myself, if and when i am faced with the opportunity.

[gunDriller]

Ratting to the government on anybody leaves me with a queasy and unsettling feeling.


but in the real world, it is sometimes the most practical solution to a real problem.

even with the queasy feeling.

[freespirit]

You believe you have the right (moral, ethical, whatever) to tell someone else how often and during what times they can come and go from their own property? You didn't say that although you seemed to infer it, so I'm asking you straight out if that is your position. IF that is your position, that is one of the most outrageous opinions that I have ever heard on this forum.

dys



like i said earlier, i have great neighbors now, but i have to disagree with the idea of cars coming in and out next door as not being noisy...when the neighbors pull into their driveway, i can hear the motor no problem. and the slamming of the car door is fairly noticeable too...even when i have the tv on, and i live in a brick house! lol mind you, it doesn't bother me, but it's not happening multiple times, in the middle of the night, either...

we don't know exactly how bad it is, or what else if anything is disturbing GoD's peace.

as for apples and oranges?

it's all fruit, man.

ps...i reviewed my posts on this thread, and failed to find anywhere that i had mentioned his rights being infringed on. the only references i made to "rights" was to say that he had the right to take the measures he took.

the neighbors, it would seem, were infringing upon his peace and serenity and his ability to enjoy his home. not his rights.



my inference, dys, is that when person A is being affected by person B's behavior, they have the right to speak up and say something about it. there is nothing wrong with approaching the neighbor and seeking a resolution to the matter...after ten years of no resolution, he took what he considered the next best alternative. this may not necessarily be his best move, but he did it nonetheless.

you have every right to do what you want on your own property, and, if it is a constant disturbance to me, i have every right to speak up about it.

if you're showing your neighbors you have no respect for them, you expect them to just suck it up?

now THAT's the most outrageous opinion i have heard on this forum.

[Book]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/36922943_12a9814a28.jpg

BREAKING: GSUSers defend crack house and eject long-time member!

:D

[zap]

I understand he is bothered by the renters coming and going from 1 to 3 am, They have a right to come and go anytime they please (he says they are druggies) ok so would the situation be any different if they weren't?and were just heading to work maybe working swing/graveyard shift? and its funny that the landlord isn't bothered by all the racket they are making, and the coming and going for 10 years.

[Bullion_Bob]

So you have an "alarm system" that goes of all the time due to undesirables living around you in your environment.

Unless you're willing to deal directly with the undesirables at some point (confront/move), you then have to consider the pro/cons of your alarm system. Not much to think of outside of that.

The rest (he said/she said...what's right/wrong) is just noise.

[freespirit]

I understand he is bothered by the renters coming and going from 1 to 3 am, They have a right to come and go anytime they please (he says they are druggies) ok so would the situation be any different if they weren't?and were just heading to work maybe working swing/graveyard shift? and its funny that the landlord isn't bothered by all the racket they are making, and the coming and going for 10 years.


i don't think the situation would be any different, zap...if they are making enough noise to disturb you, you should be able to ask them to try to keep it down. you don't have to be super aggro about it, but you still have the right to ask.

if indeed the renters are druggies, and they have as much traffic coming and going as GoD says there is, they very well may be complicit in the goings on. they could be buying from their renters for all we know...or at the very least are aware of whats happening...you can overlook a lot of shit from someone who is paying half your mortgage for you...for now, we don't know if they are ignorant, or bothered and afraid to say anything for fear of the renters retaliating, or much else beyond the OP....

i guess i just felt for GoD's predicament, and felt that he kinda took a shit kickin here that i don't think he deserved.

[osoab]

So has GoD abandoned us? :dunno

[hoarder]

There is much we don't know about the situation. We're making assumptions. I'll make assumptions too.
I assume that GoD has looked into every available opportunity to solve the problem, having lived there a decade. I assume that the tenants are in fact drug dealers, meth labbers or something of that caliber.
I hate busybodies that call the "authorities" (which I also hate) when they see things that they think threatens their property values. That would not prevent me stooping to hypocrisy as a final resort before selling and moving (unless I lived in mexifornia).

Ash Williams made some good suggestions on how to solve the problem without busybodying to the "authorities". I assume that having the irresponsible landlord as a neighbor for 10 years, at some point any rapport they may have had broke down. If so those suggestions would be inadequate to solve the problem.

I disagree with suggestions involving confrontation or overt hostility to the tenants, as I would not risk getting "capped" by gangsta wannabe scum over dog barking.

What remains unanswered is why the cops aren't doing anything about the meth-labbers/dealers if that's what they are.
Although I support legalizing weed, I don't think meth-labbers/crack dealers deserve to be treated as citizens engaging in commerce as some of the Libertarians here seem to suggest.

[dys]

I guess I see it as 'it depends'. If these people are coming home drunk and screaming at their girlfriend on the cel phone or something, sure I would go over there and say something. If they are not making extra noise other than what can reasonably be expected (i.e. car door shutting, keys rustling, etc), I probably wouldn't say something. Maybe I am making the wrong assumptions, I honestly don't know. I only know that I am basing my assumptions off of what General wrote- that his dog was waking him up and not the neighbors.

Outside of that, I have a confession to make: noise doesn't really bother me, so it is tough for me to understand why someone would care so much about something like car noise. I guess my natural tendency is to be suspicious that people that complain about noise are doing so because they like to complain, or because of some other reason.

dys





You believe you have the right (moral, ethical, whatever) to tell someone else how often and during what times they can come and go from their own property? You didn't say that although you seemed to infer it, so I'm asking you straight out if that is your position. IF that is your position, that is one of the most outrageous opinions that I have ever heard on this forum.

dys



like i said earlier, i have great neighbors now, but i have to disagree with the idea of cars coming in and out next door as not being noisy...when the neighbors pull into their driveway, i can hear the motor no problem. and the slamming of the car door is fairly noticeable too...even when i have the tv on, and i live in a brick house! lol mind you, it doesn't bother me, but it's not happening multiple times, in the middle of the night, either...

we don't know exactly how bad it is, or what else if anything is disturbing GoD's peace.

as for apples and oranges?

it's all fruit, man.

ps...i reviewed my posts on this thread, and failed to find anywhere that i had mentioned his rights being infringed on. the only references i made to "rights" was to say that he had the right to take the measures he took.

the neighbors, it would seem, were infringing upon his peace and serenity and his ability to enjoy his home. not his rights.



my inference, dys, is that when person A is being affected by person B's behavior, they have the right to speak up and say something about it. there is nothing wrong with approaching the neighbor and seeking a resolution to the matter...after ten years of no resolution, he took what he considered the next best alternative. this may not necessarily be his best move, but he did it nonetheless.

you have every right to do what you want on your own property, and, if it is a constant disturbance to me, i have every right to speak up about it.

if you're showing your neighbors you have no respect for them, you expect them to just suck it up?

now THAT's the most outrageous opinion i have heard on this forum.

[Antonio]

Careful dealers try to keep the noise to a minimum and also try to behave like decent citizens, after all it`s them who are looking at 25-life in jail.

There are degenerate drug users who make noise though. Has GoD established who these people exactly are before ratting them out?

I ratted out my dopey neighbour only after his repeated death threats towards me and having a brick missing my face by about 2 inches.

Ratting out someone without knowing everything about them is stupid, you have no idea what you are walking into. Them dealers may have bought the entire police dept in your town already. You may get stopped by a cop,have a baggie of dope and a dirty gun planted on you and for the next 10 years you`ll live with the same kinda people you were trying to rat out.

[Buddha]

Let him go. He comes on here asking for advice, he gets some that he doesn't like, so he wants his account deleted. General of Pansies.

[Cebu_4_2]

Would it be wrong to suggest a Dick Stabbing?

(insert picture here)

[Libertytree]

I consider the General a friend I've never met, the same as most of you. Friends talk plainly and bluntly with one another, it goes with the territory and I don't abide with him cuttin' and runnin' but sometimes it's good to take a breath and walk away to ponder on it. I hope he's out there ponderin' and will meander back into the the fray instead of tuckin' tail and scootin' off with a misplaced pissy attitude.

That being said, there's a lot of supposition and conjecture about the situation that we'll never know without his input and it makes this thread by and large moot and a waste of time and energy. It was a good basic discussion all in all though, see ya in another thread.

[Stop Making Cents]

I've had issues with neighbors myself. If you don't have enough respect for your neighbors to show them common decency, then I won't have any respect for you. Had a neighbor whos friends and family would constantly pull up in the driveway and honk the horn. It used to make me go ballistic and finally after about 6 months of this I called the landlord and complained. No response. Then on a Saturday morning at about 7 am sure enough a car horn. I gave the landlord a 7 am wake up call to let him know about it. They were evicted a week or 2 later. I have no mercy for scum who show no respect for others.

[Bullion_Bob]

If you had a car alarm that went off all the time when parked on the street, would you not park it in the garage instead? ...or perhaps hide in the bushes all night and bum rush anyone that went near the car only to find it on fire/destroyed eventually in retaliation?

It comes down to the fact that conflict is arising due dogs having better hearing than humans. Can another human be blamed for this reality is another question.

When a stranger farts next to me, I create distance rather than continually inhaling it while getting furiously angry over it.

Things that make you go hmm...

Once path is escalating conflict. The other would be considered harmonious existence.

There goes the neighborhood?

[Antonio]

Once some scum parked their car under my windows at 2.30am and started playing their radio so loud that my floors were shaking and I lived on the 6th floor at the time, I am not exaggerating. The fukin spics woke up several blocks, not just me.

What I did was this: I staggered out of bed, went to the fridge, picked up a jar of pickles and threw it out the window on the car.
I missed the car by a few inches. The spics continued playing the radio, one got out and started screaming something in Spanish.
I went back to the fridge, got a carton of kefir and threw that at the car. They started the engine and drove away.
I was determined to keep throwing progressively heavier objects at them until they would have left. Thankfully I didn`t have to throw dumbells and shit like that.

I get mad when deprived of sleep without good reason.

[LuckyStrike]

As libertytree said, not nearly enough information to weigh in on the entire situation.

That said there are some things which IMO can be accurately assessed.

You are using the beast system to do your bidding, the exact same thing politicians in power do and we all bitch about because we are on the grab ankles side of the situation.

Sure shitty neighbours suck, I've had some bad ones, thankfully not minorities but I can at least understand the frustration. Regardless you live in a state which is politically as screwed up as any in the country.

You can't move to Rhodesia, notice that blacks are taking over have it turn into Zimbabwe and then bitch and moan about the hyperinflation and crime. It is what it is, and you are where you want to be. If you wanted to move you would, it's nobodies choice but yours I'm sure CA is a great place in many regards.

Don't misunderstand, the backlash doesn't come because you still live in a marxist state and complain, it comes because you live in a marxist state, complain, and use the states power (which you also complain about) when it suits you.

It's a tough situation no doubt, and one of the worst parts of living in a corrupt totalitarian system, you can't always deal with your own problems by yourself without becoming a criminal in the eyes of the state. I feel your pain, but condemn this action.

[Spectrism]

I understand he is bothered by the renters coming and going from 1 to 3 am, They have a right to come and go anytime they please (he says they are druggies) ok so would the situation be any different if they weren't?and were just heading to work maybe working swing/graveyard shift? and its funny that the landlord isn't bothered by all the racket they are making, and the coming and going for 10 years.


No they don't!

They are living there illegally. The property is zoned for a single family and this is an illegal rental. To boot, the tenants are on the lower spectrum of reasonable people. If they come and go without disturbing the neighbors, fine. But as soon as excessive noise (and night-time noise is a different standard than daytime) travels from their yard into his, they have infringed on his right to peaceably occupy and enjoy his property.

I am a bit disgusted that people here would favor an illegal tenant/ rental over the one suffering the effects of another's greed (the landlord illegally renting his property).

[po boy]

Classic example of location, location,location. :conf:

[dys]

Once some scum parked their car under my windows at 2.30am and started playing their radio so loud that my floors were shaking and I lived on the 6th floor at the time, I am not exaggerating. The fukin spics woke up several blocks, not just me.

What I did was this: I staggered out of bed, went to the fridge, picked up a jar of pickles and threw it out the window on the car.
I missed the car by a few inches. The spics continued playing the radio, one got out and started screaming something in Spanish.
I went back to the fridge, got a carton of kefir and threw that at the car. They started the engine and drove away.
I was determined to keep throwing progressively heavier objects at them until they would have left. Thankfully I didn`t have to throw dumbells and shit like that.

I get mad when deprived of sleep without good reason.


Buddy, I don't know about your intentions, but you have a great sense of humor. Laughed out loud after I read this one. Props.

dys

[Antonio]

Sleep is of paramount importance. I knew an Olympic-level weightlifter here in US who couldn`t sleep because his Brooklyn street was used for motorcycle races at night. The dude spent about 100k a year on roids and his chances of placing at the Olympics were seriously hurt by the lack of sleep/ workout recovery.

He finally came out of his building at night, waited on the sidewalk for one of the bikers to drive by at 100 miles/hr and hit him with a bike chain.

He wasn`t sure whether the guy died, he said most likely so because medicine is not evolved enough yet to resurrect hamburger.
He went back to bed and slept like a baby.

[zap]

Quote from General ;
There are people coming and going from 1 - 3 am, and my dogs go ape over it, so it's hard to get a decent night of sleep.

We don't know all the facts cause General ran away. The quote above is what we know, so his dogs are barking cause somebody is coming and going.

Its just stupid, My dogs have been barking like clockwork every night at 11;00 damn, to bad I don't have anyone to blame, God damn deer, bobcats, skunks, heck maybe somebody is driving by on the county rd. how dare they! To bad I can't report them. :sarc:

[mightymanx]

I hate to use a page out of Book's tactics but:

http://papundits.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/trainwreck_423727983_dac49569c5.jpg

A visual representation of my opinion of how this thread has out lived its productive life.

[Low_five]

Its not anyones fault that his dogs are barking, if you want quiet dogs, discipline it in to them.


Both of his dogs sleep inside his house, one sleeps in his bedroom and the other in the LR (but both have free run of his house). You're being asinine (an inexcusable failure to exercise intelligence or sound judgment). The dogs are doing EXACTLY what they should be doing within his house. To *discipline* his dogs for doing their JOB is just plain stupid. Get a clue.

GoD is like me - I sleep soundly because I know my dogs are watching my six 24/7. If they're barking at night, then I need to be paying attention to that. Ultimately they're my meatshields. NO ONE can get past my older one without killing her - she's the most absolutely fearless dog I've ever seen. I've NEVER seen the level of aggression/fight drive/offense this bitch has - it's fucking unreal. I've always had to be careful with her because once 'loaded' she would throw herself into a situation with complete disregard to any danger. And she 'loads' so quickly I have to be careful ALL the time with her when walking her - it only takes one or two nanoseconds for her to EXPLODE. The bitch drags me around despite having a pinch collar on her, she seems to thrive on pain. Her nickname is Crazy Gracie. Unless and until she's agitated she's the calmest and most quiet dog you've ever seen and is completely social around strangers - NO nerviness. She's great with kids. This is the dog I'm trying to replicate, and it may take me years to do it, but that's my goal.


Suck one. I dont care if you trained your dogs to bark everytime i spin toilet paper off the tube, I have no duty to you or anyone to keep them from barking. Train them not to bark at every little thing and you wont have a problem sleeping.

[Gaillo]

You're being asinine (an inexcusable failure to exercise intelligence or sound judgment).


...Get a clue.


Suck one. I dont care if...

See you both in a week.

[Buddha]

I understand he is bothered by the renters coming and going from 1 to 3 am, They have a right to come and go anytime they please (he says they are druggies) ok so would the situation be any different if they weren't?and were just heading to work maybe working swing/graveyard shift? and its funny that the landlord isn't bothered by all the racket they are making, and the coming and going for 10 years.


No they don't!

They are living there illegally. The property is zoned for a single family and this is an illegal rental. To boot, the tenants are on the lower spectrum of reasonable people. If they come and go without disturbing the neighbors, fine. But as soon as excessive noise (and night-time noise is a different standard than daytime) travels from their yard into his, they have infringed on his right to peaceably occupy and enjoy his property.

I am a bit disgusted that people here would favor an illegal tenant/ rental over the one suffering the effects of another's greed (the landlord illegally renting his property).


All of a sudden GSUSers love the zoning board. It's funny how some of you despise the government until you can use them as a weapon against others for personal gain.

[Book]

DAMN IT TO HELL! Just got done reviewing the security camera timed exposures (motion sensor) of my hot tub from last night and my damn neighbor is USING MY HOT TUB WITHOUT ASKING FOR MY PERMISSION again!!! Yep...from 11:27pm to 11:56pm there she is splashing around all by herself like she owned the damn place. Here is one snapshot of her setting off my motion detector at 11:32pm:

http://gossip.rateometer.com/wp-content/plugins/auto-blogster/images/scarlet_naked430.jpg

What do I do guys? Call the cops? Use rock salt from my 12 Gauge? I told her the last time I caught her I would call the cops but...damn...now I dunno if I want to have the cops sniffing around my backyard collecting evidence.

What should I do guys?

:dunno

[Gaillo]

DAMN IT TO HELL! Just got done reviewing the security camera timed exposures (motion sensor) of my hot tub from last night and my damn neighbor is USING MY HOT TUB WITHOUT ASKING FOR MY PERMISSION again!!! Yep...from 11:27pm to 11:56pm there she is splashing around all by herself like she owned the damn place. Here is one snapshot of her setting off my motion detector at 11:32pm:

http://gossip.rateometer.com/wp-content/plugins/auto-blogster/images/scarlet_naked430.jpg

What do I do guys? Call the cops? Use rock salt from my 12 Gauge? I told her the last time I caught her I would call the cops but...damn...now I dunno if I want to have the cops sniffing around my backyard collecting evidence.

What should I do guys?

:dunno


If you can't beat them, join them! ;D

[ximmy]

now I dunno if I want to have the cops sniffing around my backyard collecting evidence.



:dunno


why do you have to be so greedy...

[Neuro]

DAMN IT TO HELL! Just got done reviewing the security camera timed exposures (motion sensor) of my hot tub from last night and my damn neighbor is USING MY HOT TUB WITHOUT ASKING FOR MY PERMISSION again!!! Yep...from 11:27pm to 11:56pm there she is splashing around all by herself like she owned the damn place. Here is one snapshot of her setting off my motion detector at 11:32pm:

http://gossip.rateometer.com/wp-content/plugins/auto-blogster/images/scarlet_naked430.jpg

What do I do guys? Call the cops? Use rock salt from my 12 Gauge? I told her the last time I caught her I would call the cops but...damn...now I dunno if I want to have the cops sniffing around my backyard collecting
evidence.

What should I do guys?

:dunno
I would put her in a cage!

[willie pete]

Dive In..... :P

[Neuro]

I have a problem seeing how a landlord could illegally rent out HIS own property...

That is not according to common law, is it?

[Awoke]

I'm blown away with the douchebaggery in this thread.

If someone is constantly disturbing my peace, I take action. Whether it involves my own intervention or the use of NWO pigs is up to me, but I will have my peace.

What an eye opening thread...

[kregener]

"I quit!" Bannings?

This fucking thread started to cannibalize itself.

[RJB]

What pointless drama. This thread should be locked until Gen comes back.

However, Gen calls people names everytime we log on to chat. That doesn't bother me. I know he has a rough sense of humor. However, dispite his willingness to dish it out, taking it is a different story. Every month or two he threatens to leave when people speak their mind.

I wish him peace of mind, but after seeing his temper on the forum, I have to wonder how much of his problems are due to his own emotions verses a problem with neighbors. More than anything, I want to see Gen get his ass back here and say, "Rimjob (that's what he calls me in the chatroom when he tries to piss me off ;) ), you're FOS on this one." ;D

Come on back brother.

[Horn]

I'm blown away with the douchebaggery in this thread.

Didn't appear all that bad, to me.

Not to sure about those bannings, seemed kinda stiff :conf:

[dys]

Years ago when I first learned about message forums, actually when message forums first came into existence, I was a lurker on the craigslist housing forum. Someone would write a post that went something like this:
"I can't believe the nerve of the person that lives upstairs from me/downstairs from me. They play their tv too loud, I can hear it all night and can't sleep. They stomp around all the time when they walk. When they close a door, they close it too loud. I went to ask them nicely to tell them to knock it off, and they said that they would, but they didn't. Then I asked them again and they told me to pound sand. I called the landlord, blah blah blah..."
Then all hell would break loose on the thread. Half the people would say "what a scumbag! I've known people like that all my life, they disturb others, how inconsiderate, I could never live there, etc.." Then the other half would say "what a whiny baby you are. Put some earplugs in, deal with it." The thread would go on for 50 pages like that, and members that were good friends would get in fights with each other; it tended to get nasty. I was always in the 'what a whiny baby camp', but that is neither here nor there. For some reason, this type of thing is a super hot button issue. I think it's because people tend to feel very strongly one way or the other.
Maybe people tend to be either very sensitive to outside stimulations like noise and environment or very immune to them. For me, noise simply doesn't bother me at all. You could be banging on a drum in the next room and I probably wouldn't care. Even the situation that Awoke described, coming home from work to see losers drinking beer and muddying up my neighborhood, probably wouldn't faze me because I would hardly notice it unless I tried to sell my house other potential buyers noticed.

I remember one time about 10 years ago, I moved into a pretty hoity toity neighborhood that was right next to my work. The apartment had a gigantic picture window in one of the rooms, but no blinds on it. I went to home depot to buy blinds for the window and the price was outrageous, I think it was like 250 bucks. I knew if I bought the blinds it was highly unlikely I would ever use them again if I moved, because the window was so big the size had to be customized. So instead of buying the blinds, I found a gigantic blanket for very short money and hung the blanket on the window. It didn't look bad as far as I was concerned, but you should have seen the uprising in my neighborhood! The neighbors stormed my house the next day. They were nice about it, but they told me they didn't want to have to look at my blanket. I explained the situation and passed it off on the landlord, because where I live the landlord is supposed to be responsible for all blinds in windows. Then the landlord came over to bitch me out. I said, "look, if it means so much to you and these people I would be willing to split the cost with you, how does that sound?" He said no, got all pissy and threatened to resick the neighbors on me. I told him to go ahead. And he did, and I was public enemy number one around there until the day I moved out. People are weird when it comes to this stuff sometimes.

dys

[bellevuebully]

He said no, got all pissy and threatened to resick the neighbors on me. I told him to go ahead. And he did, and I was public enemy number one around there until the day I moved out. dys





I would have gotten rid of the sheet.



I would have replaced it with a huge confed flag. :)

[Horn]

http://iowaflighttraining.com/PilotShop/images/earplugs.jpg

[vacuum]

Years ago when I first learned about message forums, actually when message forums first came into existence, I was a lurker on the craigslist housing forum. Someone would write a post that went something like this:
"I can't believe the nerve of the person that lives upstairs from me/downstairs from me. They play their tv too loud, I can hear it all night and can't sleep. They stomp around all the time when they walk. When they close a door, they close it too loud. I went to ask them nicely to tell them to knock it off, and they said that they would, but they didn't. Then I asked them again and they told me to pound sand. I called the landlord, blah blah blah..."
Then all hell would break loose on the thread. Half the people would say "what a scumbag! I've known people like that all my life, they disturb others, how inconsiderate, I could never live there, etc.." Then the other half would say "what a whiny baby you are. Put some earplugs in, deal with it." The thread would go on for 50 pages like that, and members that were good friends would get in fights with each other; it tended to get nasty. I was always in the 'what a whiny baby camp', but that is neither here nor there. For some reason, this type of thing is a super hot button issue. I think it's because people tend to feel very strongly one way or the other.
Maybe people tend to be either very sensitive to outside stimulations like noise and environment or very immune to them. For me, noise simply doesn't bother me at all. You could be banging on a drum in the next room and I probably wouldn't care. Even the situation that Awoke described, coming home from work to see losers drinking beer and muddying up my neighborhood, probably wouldn't faze me because I would hardly notice it unless I tried to sell my house other potential buyers noticed.

I remember one time about 10 years ago, I moved into a pretty hoity toity neighborhood that was right next to my work. The apartment had a gigantic picture window in one of the rooms, but no blinds on it. I went to home depot to buy blinds for the window and the price was outrageous, I think it was like 250 bucks. I knew if I bought the blinds it was highly unlikely I would ever use them again if I moved, because the window was so big the size had to be customized. So instead of buying the blinds, I found a gigantic blanket for very short money and hung the blanket on the window. It didn't look bad as far as I was concerned, but you should have seen the uprising in my neighborhood! The neighbors stormed my house the next day. They were nice about it, but they told me they didn't want to have to look at my blanket. I explained the situation and passed it off on the landlord, because where I live the landlord is supposed to be responsible for all blinds in windows. Then the landlord came over to bitch me out. I said, "look, if it means so much to you and these people I would be willing to split the cost with you, how does that sound?" He said no, got all pissy and threatened to resick the neighbors on me. I told him to go ahead. And he did, and I was public enemy number one around there until the day I moved out. People are weird when it comes to this stuff sometimes.

dys

I'm very sensitive to noises, and tbh don't like people very much in general. I live out in the country though so my main issue is people who live inside my house keeping me up. I've threatened to cut the main circuit breaker to the house if people don't go to bed.

[Horn]

"I quit!" Bannings?

This fucking thread started to cannibalize itself.


Sometimes it happens to judges who find that they harbor a bad Boni, in their bodies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWcWktc2Qgc

[Awoke]

He said no, got all pissy and threatened to resick the neighbors on me. I told him to go ahead. And he did, and I was public enemy number one around there until the day I moved out. dys





I would have gotten rid of the sheet.



I would have replaced it with a huge confed flag. :)




Or even better...


http://gadsdentees.com/wp-content/gallery/flags/gadsden-flag.png

[ximmy]

I remember one time about 10 years ago, I moved into a pretty hoity toity neighborhood that was right next to my work. The apartment had a gigantic picture window in one of the rooms, but no blinds on it. I went to home depot to buy blinds for the window and the price was outrageous, I think it was like 250 bucks. I knew if I bought the blinds it was highly unlikely I would ever use them again if I moved, because the window was so big the size had to be customized. So instead of buying the blinds, I found a gigantic blanket for very short money and hung the blanket on the window. It didn't look bad as far as I was concerned, but you should have seen the uprising in my neighborhood! The neighbors stormed my house the next day. They were nice about it, but they told me they didn't want to have to look at my blanket. I explained the situation and passed it off on the landlord, because where I live the landlord is supposed to be responsible for all blinds in windows. Then the landlord came over to bitch me out. I said, "look, if it means so much to you and these people I would be willing to split the cost with you, how does that sound?" He said no, got all pissy and threatened to resick the neighbors on me. I told him to go ahead. And he did, and I was public enemy number one around there until the day I moved out. People are weird when it comes to this stuff sometimes.

dys



Somebody builds a house that blocks the view of their neighbor. The neighbor complains to the city. Home builder responds...

[Book]

Home builder responds...



http://home.comcast.net/~gamma_2584/Pictures/MoonTopiary.jpg

[Book]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/12/18328310_073aabf595.jpg

Next the complaint will be about that new room renter...

[kregener]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/12/18328310_073aabf595.jpg

Next the complaint will be about that new room renter...


She may lie in filth, but at least her breath is minty-fresh!!

[Spectrism]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/12/18328310_073aabf595.jpg

Next the complaint will be about that new room renter...


She may lie in filth, but at least her breath is minty-fresh!!


dddeeeeee-aaammmm!

Do you always inventory hobo holdings or was this just a one-off?

Tell me- what's in her tin can and what is her favorite coffee creamer?

[Road Runner]

http://iowaflighttraining.com/PilotShop/images/earplugs.jpg



Good Idea!! I use them quite frequently along with a fan!!

[Bullion_Bob]

http://iowaflighttraining.com/PilotShop/images/earplugs.jpg


My dog barked, and woke me up last month over a squirrel. As of yesterday I believe I have now killed every squirrel in the neighborhood. They are very hard individuals to reason with.

Then it started barking at the cats, that got messy.

I feel sorry about the mailman, he was such a nice guy.

:lol

[Gaillo]

http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2011-02-25/1298673136714.jpg

[EE_]

http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/1.jpg

[kregener]

dddeeeeee-aaammmm!

Do you always inventory hobo holdings or was this just a one-off?

Tell me- what's in her tin can and what is her favorite coffee creamer?


The blue bucket is for pee...the red one...

[StackerKen]

Ahh Man...the General is gone? Bummer :-\

I had a drug dealing neighbor that played his thumping rap music with the bass turned all the way up and shook our house with it. I would ask him to turn it down and he would. but it would be back up the next day, Got kinda old.

One day (thanksgiving day) He had the bass turned way up and I was having words with him out on our front lawns...My wife came out and he said something disrespectful to her and I was over the 4ft chain link fence in a heartbeat and had the guy in a headlock and was about to choke him out.
All the neighbors were watching and his druggy friends too. So I let go of him and he took off.

A few minutes later the cops showed up. (some one called them not sure who)
They told me they could arrest me (cause I jumped his fence) But they knew the guy and he had warrants out, so they didn't arrest me.

A few weeks later he was back and it all started again.....

I built a house in the hills...and Moved

It was either move...or commit murder.....I chose to move


Give us all a break General
We are on your side. A lot of us just think moving is the best way to go.

[Spectrism]

Ken- you reminded me of an incident that happened when I first moved to my current house. 3 kids were walking out in front of my house- a fairly rural area but well travelled little road. It was a summer evening just before dark. I heard glass breakage so I ran down the driveway. There on the road in front of my driveway was a broken bottle. I told the biggest one to pick up his litter and remove it... the two smaller ones ran. He told me he wouldn't and kept going.

These were big chunks of sharp glass. I did not want to leave it for the next car to come by, so I cleaned it up. Then I went looking for them.

A few houses away is where I tracked them down by asking some neighborhood kids who the troublemakers were in the area. I pulled in there and walked around to the back of the house. Bingo! All three were there as well as two adults.

The male "adult" with a scruffy beard (now I call him weird beard) seemed friendly at first. It turned out that his step-son (son of woman he was living there with) was one of the little ones who ran away. I told him the story and that I would leave it to him for disciplining his son. He looked at the kids and they all denied it happened. Weird beard looked at me and told me to pound sand- his kid did nothing wrong.

For the next two months, typically between 11:00 and 11:30pm I would hear banging out front. I could just make out someone pounding my mailbox with a baseball bat... and then hopping in their car and driving off. Not every night. About once per week... sometimes every other week.

I went back to the house of weird beard to splain something. At his front door I told him that I was new in the area and had no enemies..... but suddenly after our encounter my mailbox was being destroyed. I told him that I was sure it was not his son doing it, but I thought it was his friends who were the cuplrits. And then I told him that friends like that tend to turn on each other and to be careful. I said he was in danger of problems as "what goes around comes around". He got the message clearly and yelled: "Are you threaterning me?!"

I put my hands up and very meekly said: "Oh no. Of course not. I am just trying to help you stay safe."

All was quiet for a while. Then the mailbox attacks started again. I called the cops to report this. A state trooper visited and I told him the generally what was happening. He asked if I suspected anyone. I said I did but had no evidence. He pressed me on who I suspected, as if he already had a suspect. Then I told him the full story. He said he knew all about weird beard's stepson and would visit them.

They never touched my mailbox again. I replaced the wreckage with a rolled steel box that would break the wrist of any bat-wielder... (got one years later... another story).

Anyway, it turns out that stepson was a sex-offender. He committed suicide about 7 years later. I still see weird beard once in a while and know that he is not to be trusted and will be an enemy when TSHTF extreme.

[Antonio]

Make no mistake about it, those who play loud music at night are doing it on purpose, they want to torture people without breaking major laws, it`s not because they are so musical. It`s sheer sociopathy.

[StackerKen]

I want to add something General

the folks that told you to move have your best interest in mind

Bug out now! before TSHTF

Building this house in the hills was one of the best things I have ever done!
We love it up here!

and I have that chitty neighbor to thank for forcing me to get off my ass and do it :)

the view from my back porch

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h55/baytraderken/winterveiw-1.jpg

[mick silver]

at one point in my life when i was younger i would of never said a word to someone pissing me off i would just beat the mf ass till he was about to stop sucking air in . but now i feel there better things to do like get the f out of dodge . and my wife can back up ever word i say here . stop an think there a better way to live and it will not be in a city .

[kregener]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h55/baytraderken/winterveiw-1.jpg

You lucky son-of-a...

Way to friggin GO Ken!

[General of Darkness]

Well well well, looks who's here, ME.

Let me make a few things clear folks.

1 - My mother who lives 10 minutes from me is 83 years old and my step dad died back in September, so I can't just LEAVE. And before you say, take her with you, it's not going to happen. ALL of my relatives live in EUROPE, the only family I have in the U.S. is my MOTHER, and I haven't lived with my mother since I was 15, and she hates dogs. So at the moment, moving is not an option.

2 - Why did I ask for my account to be deleted. Because I don't need useless pieces of crap like Buddha and Five Low running their mouths and basically talking smack for the sole purpose of pissing me off. And having other members ask me to fricken move is bullcrap, that's called being a pussy where I come from.

3 - I thought that most members here were libertarians. If you don't bother me, I won't bother you. The government, taxes the crap out of me, loves to fine me for going over the speed limit, but when I call the Sheriffs and tell them, "These idiots are dealing drugs from this back house", I get, "Nothing we can do about it". So this past year I've payed 40 THOUSAND DOLLARS in taxes, and do I ever get a break? NO. Do I play by the rules? YES. And now I'm a dick for finally doing something about, other than moving, for putting up with this crap for over 10 years?

4 - Banning Midnight Rambler is pure crap. He's a close friend of mine and wasn't sticking up for me, but just relaying FACTS. My dogs are treated like FAMILY. My Shepard/Malamute mix has free run of the house all day when I'm at work, and Enzo is in training. They both sleep in the house, so when they are "barking" when these POS druggies, that don't work, don't do anything, come home about 3am, they are doing THEIR JOB. And their job is to alert me when something is wrong. I'm sure the panty waists on the forum that said, you need to train your dogs, have NEVER had a REAL dog, and even understand what a dog is there for. My dogs are MEAT SHIELDS, they are LEGAL electric fences. Can you brain dead bastards understand that?

5 - Some people here believe that calling "The Man", at all costs is just wrong. So I wanna know, what do you folks when you're wronged do? If someone wrongs you, what do YOU DO? If someone robs you at gun point and takes your wallet, what do you do. Do you just say, "can't call the cops, that's just wrong". Well this ahole neighbor has robbed the other neighbors of having their kids play outside, have robbed me, not just of sleep, but just of peace. I wanna be LEFT ALONE, don't bother me, and I WILL NOT bother you.

6 - Just some icing on the cake. The other day the neighbors useless oldest son, who's milking disability, and sells knock off Chinese tennis shoes got into with me. I told his fat ass to get a job, and he said, "Thanks for paying your taxes, without it, I'd have to get a job".

7 - Just to hammer out this MOVING option. I really do understand what people are saying, and I appreciate it. However, I will NOT be run out of my home, the city where I was born. I will not run, I'm going to stand my ground. When all of you are done running, and the idiots have shown up there, where are you going to go then? I'm a PROUD WHITE MAN, and will stand my ground, maybe this is my personal Alamo, I don't know, but moving for me, is wrong, ethically. If more people stood their ground, we'd make a change for the better. Just curious, how has the white flighting liberals worked out for places like Seattle, Portland etc? Let me tell you. Their bring their multicult hell hole attitude that they ran from, with them.

Now if you have a problem with what I said, you can go screw yourself, because I don't give a damn what you have to say at this point. I KNOW I'm right, I walk the walk and DO talk the talk, and yes, if you disagree with me on this, you're an idiot and your wrong and should go kill yourself.

All the best,

Mishko

[Antonio]

Mishko, what Novosel means in Croatian?

[General of Darkness]

Mishko, what Novosel means in Croatian?


None of your oven dodging business.

[Libertytree]

Good to see ya standing ground, both in real life and here.

[StackerKen]

Right on General... :)
Just glad your gonna stay here at GSUS with us.

[Antonio]

Mishko, what Novosel means in Croatian?


None of your oven dodging business.


Vater Vater komm zurick, zehn Soldaten Mutter fick.

[General of Darkness]

Mishko, what Novosel means in Croatian?


None of your oven dodging business.


Vater Vater komm zurick, zehn Soldaten Mutter fick.


Molim te, ubi se.

[zap]

I thought it would be pretty chickenshit of you if you'd have left us ! ;)

Have a great day General ;D

[General of Darkness]

I thought it would be pretty chickenshit of you if you'd have left us ! ;)

Have a great day General ;D


Well Zap, I thought it was "chickenshit", as you put it, to basically call me a pussy for sticking up for myself, LEGALLY.

You have a great day too. ;)

[General of Darkness]

OK, so who's next?

[Antonio]

Mishko, what Novosel means in Croatian?


None of your oven dodging business.


Vater Vater komm zurick, zehn Soldaten Mutter fick.


Molim te, ubi se.

Hui tebe, sam ubivaisia ;D

[General of Darkness]

Mishko, what Novosel means in Croatian?


None of your oven dodging business.


Vater Vater komm zurick, zehn Soldaten Mutter fick.


Molim te, ubi se.

Hui tebe, sam ubivaisia ;D


LOL, you wish. You're about as worrisome as a cloudy day.

So where are the big mouths?

[LuckyStrike]

OK, so who's next?


I'd love to hear your reply to my response.

[Antonio]

Mishko, what Novosel means in Croatian?


None of your oven dodging business.

Vater Vater komm zurick, zehn Soldaten Mutter fick.


Molim te, ubi se.

Hui tebe, sam ubivaisia ;D


LOL, you wish. You're about as worrisome as a cloudy day.

So where are the big mouths?


Hochesh govorit eshe?

[Tumbleweed]

You need to teach your dogs to bite and not bark General then you can get some sleep. Barkin dogs piss me off too.

[General of Darkness]

OK, so who's next?


I'd love to hear your reply to my response.



Since I'm getting beat up by people in my own thread, can you quote yourself so I don't need look thought some of these idiotic statements.

[solid]

Since I'm getting beat up by people in my own thread, can you quote yourself so I don't need look thought some of these idiotic statements.


My suggestion was that you talk with your other neighbors. Are your other neighbors decent folk? Maybe find out if they have complaints too.

Glad to have ya back, General. :)

[General of Darkness]

You need to teach your dogs to bite and not bark General then you can get some sleep. Barkin dogs piss me off too.


Tumbleweed, love ya brother, but have you not seen the videos?

Here's one I did with some old school funk from last weekend. BTW - If you watch closely, Enzo, bites to the gills, it can't get the sleeve any further back in his mouth and can snap a mans arm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55NgYOHYNV8

[Bullion_Bob]

http://www.nerdtests.com/picsarea/c7975dc9584871ad81bb16c77587107c.jpg

[General of Darkness]

I love the cock



Yeah no kidding.

[kregener]

House fires are a dreaded disaster...

[General of Darkness]

House fires are a dreaded disaster...


And banging your own sister is illegal, what's your point? Speak your mind or shut your cake hole.

[General of Darkness]

Just for the record, those of you who make your snide little comments will be treated in kind from now on, and on every thread that I view. I got kicked in the teeth for opening up. So in the future, don't act surprised, if I don't give back equally.

OK, so who's else has an "opinion" or a "suggestion"?

EDIT - Just for Book. You play your little games and think you're funny, but why aren't you over at GIM2 spreading the truth? Why aren't you here DEMANDING that people no go there and speak the truth? The reason you aren't because you are a (file in the blank _________).

[Antonio]

What`s with you and spending so much time with them dogs,Mishko?
You think they will save you from angry humans WTSHTF?

Buy a puma, smells and looks infinitely better than any dog and is a lot more dangerous to the owner ( there are certain guys who think owning a scary dog adds to their machismo).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA1i36Dd1qs

[General of Darkness]

What`s with you and spending so much time with them dogs,Mishko?
You think they will save you from angry humans WTSHTF?

Buy a puma, smells and looks infinitely better than any dog and is a lot more dangerous to the owner ( there are certain guys who think owning a scary dog adds to their machismo).


Actually jew, I care about my dogs, and my goal is too help them be the best they can. Something a parasite like yourself and your tribe could never understand. It's called unconditional love, something the Talmud and Usury and hook nosed parasites have a missing gene.

[General of Darkness]

BTW jew, I thought you had things to do.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5452/antonio22011.jpg

[Antonio]

What`s with you and spending so much time with them dogs,Mishko?
You think they will save you from angry humans WTSHTF?

Buy a puma, smells and looks infinitely better than any dog and is a lot more dangerous to the owner ( there are certain guys who think owning a scary dog adds to their machismo).


Actually jew, I care about my dogs, and my goal is too help them be the best they can. Something a parasite like yourself and your tribe could never understand. It's called unconditional love, something the Talmud and Usury and hook nosed parasites have a missing gene.


Dog is a curse word in every language but cat is not. Something sobaka have trouble understanding why...

[osoab]

Why have you dragged this out for 10 years? What other "measures" have you implemented prior to this past week?

I understand you not wanting to leave your mom, completely understandable. I apologize, I forgot that you did have older family in the area.

But if TSHTF, your area is not going to be one of the places to be, especially with neighbors such as your describing. Any plans on a place other that the one you are currently favoring?

I can't fault you for going to the "authorities". After endless annoyances from one across the street, I finally decided to attempt to get some authorities involved. There was nothing they could do, but the neighbors knew I was calling the po-lice. They cut their crap out at the time and beat like hell out of neighborhood. I am guessing one had a warrant. I was lucky enough that not too long afterwards, the dumbasses were kicked out by the landlords.

Good luck on getting rid of them.

You may want to shakedown the neighborhood to get rid of them. ;)

[General of Darkness]

What`s with you and spending so much time with them dogs,Mishko?
You think they will save you from angry humans WTSHTF?

Buy a puma, smells and looks infinitely better than any dog and is a lot more dangerous to the owner ( there are certain guys who think owning a scary dog adds to their machismo).


Actually jew, I care about my dogs, and my goal is too help them be the best they can. Something a parasite like yourself and your tribe could never understand. It's called unconditional love, something the Talmud and Usury and hook nosed parasites have a missing gene.


JEWS are a curse on every land that has the misfortune of having them

Now there's something I can agree upon.

[osoab]

BTW jew, I thought you had things to do.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5452/antonio22011.jpg


WTF? :conf:

[Antonio]

You have casually informed us that you pay 40k/yr in taxes, that`s what, making half a mil a year?
You are stuck on forums, train dogs, post Antonio`s chat transcripts and make half a mil?
Something doesn`t add up...

[Antonio]

BTW jew, I thought you had things to do.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5452/antonio22011.jpg


WTF? :conf:


That`s GSUS Sunday night chat the contents of which General has just posted.

[General of Darkness]

BTW jew, I thought you had things to do.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5452/antonio22011.jpg


WTF? :conf:


He said that in chat last Sunday, I got a screen shot of it. It was right before he started talking about poop etc. He's a vial individual. Ask anyone who was there. They'll vouch for me.

[osoab]

BTW jew, I thought you had things to do.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5452/antonio22011.jpg


WTF? :conf:


He said that in chat last Sunday, I got a screen shot of it. It was right before he started talking about poop etc. He's a vial individual. Ask anyone who was there. They'll vouch for me.


I think I popped in for a bit. Probably should have stuck around for poo talk.

[Antonio]

BTW jew, I thought you had things to do.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5452/antonio22011.jpg


WTF? :conf:


He said that in chat last Sunday, I got a screen shot of it. It was right before he started talking about poop etc. He's a vial individual. Ask anyone who was there. They'll vouch for me.


Dude, you are rapidly deteriorating psychologically. Anyone`s speech taken out of context, especially late-nite meaningless banter after a fat joint can sound vile.
Collecting such shit is another matter.
PS. Vial you say, General? No, I shoot out of vials but I am not vile,hahahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaa!

[Gaillo]

You have casually informed us that you pay 40k/yr in taxes, that`s what, making half a mil a year?
You are stuck on forums, train dogs, post Antonio`s chat transcripts and make half a mil?
Something doesn`t add up...


Antonio,
What doesn't add up? I know for a FACT that there are several VERY wealthy individuals who frequent this forum and post here regularly - people who make GoD's income look like chickenfeed.

[General of Darkness]

You have casually informed us that you pay 40k/yr in taxes, that`s what, making half a mil a year?
You are stuck on forums, train dogs, post Antonio`s chat transcripts and make half a mil?
Something doesn`t add up...


I'm not a jew Antonio, I can't somehow avoid paying taxes. That 40K in taxes is just over 100K in income. So I might make 6 figures in income, but I get butt rammed to pay for jewish programs that help jews, ie. welfare = white man keeping me down, unemployment = white man keeping me down and on and on and on.

Because as your know jew. When it's bad to be a jew, you're white, and when it's bad to be white, you're a jew. I gotta hand it to you filthy oven dodgers you pricks got a good scam going, but I give it about 2 years until your done. Your gefeltafish is cooked. Hopefully your kind will cease to exist on the planet, because the world can not survive another 50 years of jewish involvement, anywhere.

[Antonio]

You have casually informed us that you pay 40k/yr in taxes, that`s what, making half a mil a year?
You are stuck on forums, train dogs, post Antonio`s chat transcripts and make half a mil?
Something doesn`t add up...


Antonio,
What doesn't add up? I know for a FACT that there are several VERY wealthy individuals who frequent this forum and post here regularly - people who make GoD's income look like chickenfeed.

In that case I apologize which is rare for me. I do believe you if you say so. It comes a surprise to me though. I thought high-net worth individuals have better things to do than be stuck on any forum, even the smartest of them all ;).

[dys]

First of all I kind of acted like a dick on my first post to you on this thread, so that is my bad. I am going to disagree with you, and I'm going to try and do it respectfully. As I said on my other posts, in my view what your neighbors do in the privacy of their own home is none of your business. If they are doing it outside of their home, or if they are throwing bashes at 3am and waking everybody up, totally different story. But as far as I can tell that is not the case here. They are just keeping odd hours. And it is NOT illegal to deal drugs. Even the Supreme Courts recognize this http://marcstevens.net/component/content/article/52-standing-cross-reference.html And it most definetely isn't illegal to come home late at night; so that means in my opinion that the issue of your dog waking you up is totally irrelevant.
You don't approve of the lifestyle that your neighbors live, I get it and I don't even fault you for it. Trust me, I don't approve of the lifestyle of a lot my neighbors. One of my former neighbors, for instance, was a cop. Considering extortion and kidnapping are illegal, what would you propose I do about it? Call another illegal organization like code enforcers? I'm sorry, I don't believe that is the right thing to do. The bottom line is that it is their house and their life and they are free to live the way that they choose without your interference. If they start breaking beer bottles off cars at 3am, or crashing into things, getting into fights outside, hanging out on the porch and making sexual or untoward comments towards children or women, at that point I move firmly over to your side. I still wouldn't support calling the code enforcers, but I would support you otherwise.
Last thing, don't be so sensitive. There is no reason to leave the forum just because certain people disagree or even if certain people act like dickheads. I've acted like a dickhead a million times in my life, you probably have to. It's not worth leaving a good forum over, that's for sure.

dys

[Bullion_Bob]

Yeah no kidding.


What about the possibility that you might not have to move far to vastly improve your immediate surroundings?

As well, all cock stab worshiping aside, how much of plan B scenario have you thought out/considered?

[General of Darkness]

And it most definetely isn't illegal to come home late at night; so that means in my opinion that the issue of your dog waking you up is totally irrelevant.



Oh heck yeah. I completely 100% agree with that. I also find it funny that you would point this out. So let me point something out for YOU. Most dogs have insane hearing ability, and they also have great memories. Most dogs remember the sound of a car door closing, or motor, if it's "new" they take notice, or if it's from people that just aren't right, even if they're regulars, they don't LIKE IT.

You sound like you've never had dogs or at least ones that were worth a crap.

[Buddha]

Great the General is back!!!

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[dys]

I'm an animal lover. I had German Shepherds growing up and into my late 20's. Actually, for a very short time I TRAINED dogs. Believe me, I get it. There are unsavory characters hanging out at your neighbors. Problem is, there are unsavory characters everywhere. Cops, bankers, CPS reps that are in the baby stealing business, pharmaceutical drug dealers who market their shit to 5 year old kids, advertisers, politicians, lobbyists, et al. They are everywhere. For me, I would rather live next door to an honest drug dealer as opposed to a dishonest cop or banker, but that is a philosophical argument and besides the point. The point is that it is their right to have anyone they damn well please come over to their house whenever they damn well please, so long as whatever chicanery they are involved in happens in the confines of their home. If they do things that they have every right to do and your dog wakes up as a consequence of that, I see that as your problem and not theirs.

dys



Oh heck yeah. I completely 100% agree with that. I also find it funny that you would point this out. So let me point something out for YOU. Most dogs have insane hearing ability, and they also have great memories. Most dogs remember the sound of a car door closing, or motor, if it's "new" they take notice, or if it's from people that just aren't right, even if they're regulars, they don't LIKE IT.

You sound like you've never had dogs or at least ones that were worth a crap.

[General of Darkness]

Great the General is back!!!



Awe Buddha, thanks for the warm welcome. I know it brings a tear to your eye.

http://www.wymaninstitute.org/images/article_imgs/rabbi_08crying.jpg

[kregener]

House fires are a dreaded disaster...


And banging your own sister is illegal, what's your point? Speak your mind or shut your cake hole.


Okay asshole, you just lost me as a supporter, which I was, until you tried to fucking think.

[woodman]

I certainly understand your frustration General. It is no good to have your slumber ruined night after night. I have had neighbors who don't tend to their dogs and the dogs bark endlessly all night long. It drives me near to insanity. My initial thought was that your dogs were outside and probably driving the neighbors nuts. It sounds like you are a good and responsible dog owner and you have lousy neighbors with no regard for anyone else. Do what you gotta do man. I guess if it was bugging me that long, I'd do whatever I could to stop it.

[Antonio]

You have casually informed us that you pay 40k/yr in taxes, that`s what, making half a mil a year?
You are stuck on forums, train dogs, post Antonio`s chat transcripts and make half a mil?
Something doesn`t add up...


I'm not a jew Antonio, I can't somehow avoid paying taxes. That 40K in taxes is just over 100K in income. So I might make 6 figures in income, but I get butt rammed to pay for jewish programs that help jews, ie. welfare = white man keeping me down, unemployment = white man keeping me down and on and on and on.

Because as your know jew. When it's bad to be a jew, you're white, and when it's bad to be white, you're a jew. I gotta hand it to you filthy oven dodgers you pricks got a good scam going, but I give it about 2 years until your done. Your gefeltafish is cooked. Hopefully your kind will cease to exist on the planet, because the world can not survive another 50 years of jewish involvement, anywhere.




Not only I am a proud Jew, I would never, ever, ever describe any situation I`ve been involved in as "getting butt-rammed". It`s a Freudian slip,General.

[Buddha]

Great the General is back!!!



Awe Buddha, thanks for the warm welcome. I know it brings a tear to your eye.

http://www.wymaninstitute.org/images/article_imgs/rabbi_08crying.jpg


Nah, this actually me upon noticing your triumphant return.

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[dys]

Is it possible that we can actually debate the issue for once on a thread, instead of just posting stupid jokes that aren't even funny or thought provoking? I guess not.

dys

[Buddha]

Is it possible that we can actually debate the issue for once on a thread, instead of just posting stupid jokes that aren't even funny or thought provoking? I guess not.

dys


dys, chill the fuck out, this whole thread was about trying to discuss the issue. GoD would give no details, then leaves like the jews out of Egypt when he got a couple opinions that he didn't like. Perhaps you need to re read the thread?

[dys]

Is it possible that we can actually debate the issue for once on a thread, instead of just posting stupid jokes that aren't even funny or thought provoking? I guess not.

dys


dys, chill the fuck out, this whole thread was about trying to discuss the issue. GoD would give no details, then leaves like the jews out of Egypt when he got a couple opinions that he didn't like. Perhaps you need to re read the thread?


I wasn't intending to single you out, it just seems like a lot of threads have devolved into sneering and posturing lately. I've probably done it myself, too.

dys

[General of Darkness]

House fires are a dreaded disaster...


And banging your own sister is illegal, what's your point? Speak your mind or shut your cake hole.


Okay asshole, you just lost me as a supporter, which I was, until you tried to fucking think.


Awwwww come on. Apparently you didn't get the memo. I didn't ask for anything, let alone support from someone that says crap like, House Fires are a Dreaded Disaster. I asked what did you mean by that? Should I watch my back now? Was someone going to set my house on fire?

Think about it before you name call me and get a response for stupid stuff.

[Antonio]

I`m sorry, did I break you concentration?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru64-1dAbb4

[General of Darkness]

Is it possible that we can actually debate the issue for once on a thread, instead of just posting stupid jokes that aren't even funny or thought provoking? I guess not.

dys


dys, chill the fuck out, this whole thread was about trying to discuss the issue. GoD would give no details, then leaves like the jews out of Egypt when he got a couple opinions that he didn't like. Perhaps you need to re read the thread?


LOL, Buddha, now you're trying to give advice? Your like a rabbi trying to give advice at how to unbang an alter boy.

[Gaillo]

OK, folks...
I know everyone's shit's all emot-chunal right now, but this ends HERE.
Kregener, enjoy your week off...
Everyone else, chill it the fuck OUT or I'll lock this thread and retrieve my +3 banhammer of Thor! >:(

[StackerKen]

ibtl :P

[General of Darkness]

OK, folks...
I know everyone's shit's all emot-chunal right now, but this ends HERE.
Kregener, enjoy your week off...
Everyone else, chill it the fuck OUT or I'll lock this thread and retrieve my +3 banhammer of Thor! >:(


Gaillo, please don't ban Kregener. I think he misread what my point was. And my POINT for everyone is that it's NOT that damn easy for people to read between the lines. I managed to piss him off just like a lot of people in this thread pissed me off and he called me an asshole, well hells bells, that's a damn good description of someone who's done with taking crap from people.

I swear to GOD, I'll donate $20 if you unban Kregener and ban Buddha, because that guy is a cunt. I can smell it from a 100 miles away. ;)

[chad]

What's up man? Glad to see you back.

[Antonio]

OK, folks...
I know everyone's shit's all emot-chunal right now, but this ends HERE.
Kregener, enjoy your week off...
Everyone else, chill it the fuck OUT or I'll lock this thread and retrieve my +3 banhammer of Thor! >:(


Gaillo, please don't ban Kregener. I think he misread what my point was. And my POINT for everyone is that it's NOT that damn easy for people to read between the lines. I managed to piss him off just like a lot of people in this thread pissed me off and he called me an asshole, well hells bells, that's a damn good description of someone who's done with taking crap from people.

I swear to GOD, I'll donate $20 if you unban Kregener and ban Buddha, because that guy is a cunt. I can smell it from a 100 miles away. ;)


I don`t think Buddha is a cunt but we have learned something important again. General doesn`t like cunt smell. Another Fredian slip.

[RatHoler]

I have issues with this thread.

Thread closed.

Scorpio

[General of Darkness]

OK, folks...
I know everyone's shit's all emot-chunal right now, but this ends HERE.
Kregener, enjoy your week off...
Everyone else, chill it the fuck OUT or I'll lock this thread and retrieve my +3 banhammer of Thor! >:(


Gaillo, please don't ban Kregener. I think he misread what my point was. And my POINT for everyone is that it's NOT that damn easy for people to read between the lines. I managed to piss him off just like a lot of people in this thread pissed me off and he called me an asshole, well hells bells, that's a damn good description of someone who's done with taking crap from people.

I swear to GOD, I'll donate $20 if you unban Kregener and ban Buddha, because that guy is a cunt. I can smell it from a 100 miles away. ;)


I don`t think Buddha is a cunt but we have learned something important again. General doesn`t like cunt smell. Another Fredian slip.


I think we also learned something important, you're just here to stir up trouble.

Since this thread is going no where I do have ability as the OP to just delete it, I rather me do the dead than the mods. You got 30 minutes to leave parting gifts.

[Gaillo]

Can't take a gentle hint, eh people? ???

General of Darkness and Antonio, you both know the kind of insults you're throwing back and forth in this thread are verboten here... why do you push it to the point of bans? See you both in a week.

Nothing good is coming from all of this.
THREAD LOCKED.