'Extreme Supermoon' Will Come Dangerously Close To Earth On March 19

[MNeagle]

'Extreme Supermoon' Will Come Dangerously Close To Earth On March 19

http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/4d778d1dccd1d5011d190000-400-299/moon.jpg


On March 19, a rare lunar event will bring the full moon unusually close to Earth.

This event is known as an extreme supermoon.

Extreme supermoons caused flooding when they occurred in 1954, 1974 and 1992, according to New Zealand's Gympie Times. Meteorologists also speculate that extreme supermoons have caused or amplified earthquakes, such as the 9.0 Indonesian earthquake in 2005, according to AccuWeather.com.

Whether or not you believe the hype, remember to take out your camera.




See pictures of December's incredible luncar eclipse > (http://www.businessinsider.com/extreme-supermoon-2011-3)

[Neuro]

As far as I understand it the moons distance from earth doesn't vary that much. I think it averages about 384.000 km, so what's it going to be instead 370.000 km?

[Spectrism]

Gravity.


F = G* (M1*M2) / S^2

S= distance
G= constant
M1 & M2 are constant of mass of earth & moon

effect of distance=>
F= C/S*S C= just the constant of gravity times the masses- also a constant
Fc= C/Sc*Sc is the new (shorter) distance

% change of force = (F-Fc)/Fc = (S^2 - Sc^2)/ S^2

Avg orbit is approx 382,000 km (S) getting as close as 363,000km. This time we are expecting 356,000km (Sc).

Plugging numbers-

1.9188ee10 / 1.45924ee11 = .13

That is a 13% change from normal gravity pull from the moon. Consider that the tides are caused by these changes.... and probably much of the rotational force of the earth. Compared to a normal full moon, the difference is probably more like 4%.

This is already pulling onthe crust and does not happen suddenly on 19 Mar. We are in earthquake territory now. Anything that already has tension built up will more likely spring loose over the next 2 weeks, than over the next 3 months.

[7th trump]

Just one question.
The moon doesnt hide behind another odject to say a full moon is more powerful gravitationaly than say a half moon.
Theres nothing between the moon and earth to cause the moons gravity to vary when it comes to the earths shadow projected on the moon.
I always thought that was a myth but everyone seems to buy it as fact.
Even had someone argue with me about it because he said the sun's gravitational force was weaker...............but the sun is on the other side of the earth for a shadow of the earth to cast on the moon so therefore the suns forces dont deviate.
A solar eclipse is a whole different event because the moon is directly between the earth and sun.

A solar flare I can see effecting the sun gravitational power.

[Spectrism]

Just one question.
The moon doesnt hide behind another odject to say a full moon is more powerful gravitationaly than say a half moon.
Theres nothing between the moon and earth to cause the moons gravity to vary when it comes to the earths shadow projected on the moon.
I always thought that was a myth but everyone seems to buy it as fact.
Even had someone argue with me about it because he said the sun's gravitational force was weaker...............but the sun is on the other side of the earth for a shadow of the earth to cast on the moon so therefore the suns forces dont deviate.
A solar eclipse is a whole different event because the moon is directly between the earth and sun.

A solar flare I can see effecting the sun gravitational power.




The moon is always in view of the earth, but the difference is ALIGNMENT.
In a full moon, the moon/ earth/ sun are aligned.
In a new moon, the earth/ moon/ sun are aligned.

Either way, the gravitational forces are stretching the earth to a less spherical shape. The force of changing the shape builds stresses. Any aberration in the moon's orbit is noteworthy. It could signify something happening in the earth's core or it might be from outside forces. (Nibiru) The alignment increases tidal effect at those times.


Another thought hit me. If the moon were at half its current distance with the same revolution speed, it would crash into the earth. The gravity is not linear. It is perfectly balanced by speed and distance to stay in orbit. In some ways, the moon is like a pacemaker for the earth. When it starts acting funny, the heartbeat is going to get some untimely jolts.

[General of Darkness]

Is it time for panic sex yet?

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt264/Hx3_1963/Personal/panicsexchart.jpg

[cortez]

awesome!! thats my birthday

[Horn]

Is it time for panic sex yet?

Never too late for a "round the way" girl, general.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdzU3tXXd8Q

[SLV^GLD]

Either way, the gravitational forces are stretching the earth to a less spherical shape.
Maybe you meant the surface of the oceans? Earth without water does not even remotely resemble a sphere, it's not even roundish.

[Horn]

Beware the Ides of March.

http://thelemonspank.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/the_beaver_has_a_message.jpg

[Neuro]

Either way, the gravitational forces are stretching the earth to a less spherical shape.
Maybe you meant the surface of the oceans? Earth without water does not even remotely resemble a sphere, it's not even roundish.
Sorry, without water, it would still appear round, the lowest ocean floor is only 11 kilometer deep, and the highest mountain is 9 km high, the diameter of the earth is 12000 km.

[Horn]

http://www.aviso.oceanobs.com/uploads/pics/variation_marees_uk_01.jpg


However the Moon is rarely in the Earth's equatorial plane. The two bulges are along the Earth-Moon or Earth-Sun axis and hence, for a given latitude, the amplitude will not be the same for the two daily tides. Sometimes there is only one tide per day.

If the celestial body is not in the equatorial plane, given that there are two high and two low tides per day, then one of the high or the low tides will be greater than the other high or low tide respectively, every day, at middle latitudes.

http://www.aviso.oceanobs.com/en/applications/ocean/tides/moon-and-sun/index.html

[Spectrism]

Either way, the gravitational forces are stretching the earth to a less spherical shape.
Maybe you meant the surface of the oceans? Earth without water does not even remotely resemble a sphere, it's not even roundish.


The tides are definitely more impacted by the grav pulls.... but there is elongation stress pulled on the crust too. Think about the rotating force caused by the moon as the earth spins faster than the moon revolves. It is a pull and release all across the surface of the earth (north to south). It has to be pulling at the core too, making the magma more prone to burst through weak spots. I think the rotation of the earth (quicker than moon revolution) is what keeps the whole thing from blasting apart.


I see Horn posted the graphic of what I am trying to describe.

[ximmy]

Either way, the gravitational forces are stretching the earth to a less spherical shape.
Maybe you meant the surface of the oceans? Earth without water does not even remotely resemble a sphere, it's not even roundish.

;D

[Horn]

Apogee & perigee being intertwined by the centrifugal, the strongest of gravitational forces may have already past, tonight. :o

A Sense of Scale

http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/moon_ap_per.html

[ximmy]

Apogee & perigee being intertwined by the centrifugal, the strongest of gravitational forces may have already past, tonight. :o

A Sense of Scale

http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/moon_ap_per.html


Horn... Is this what you are saying? ... if so... Doom!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWh6ETOhRcs

[mick silver]

i got my wife a Telescope i can hook it to my laptop . i need to find out if i can hook it up an take pictures with it ... here the one i got her .... http://www.telescopes.com/telescopes/catadioptric-telescopes/meade6inchlstelescopewithlightswitchtechnology1.cf m ... do any of you know if i can take pic with this

[Horn]

Horn... Is this what you are saying? ... if so... Doom!!!

Girl's got talent.

Can't you feel it in the air? ooohh! puts me on pins & needles :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebInqG1pJI

[Glass]

Interesting. I've been noticing very high tides for about the last month. I dont remember them being this high for so many days in a row. It stuck me as odd. So now I know why.

[SLV^GLD]

Either way, the gravitational forces are stretching the earth to a less spherical shape.
Maybe you meant the surface of the oceans? Earth without water does not even remotely resemble a sphere, it's not even roundish.
Sorry, without water, it would still appear round, the lowest ocean floor is only 11 kilometer deep, and the highest mountain is 9 km high, the diameter of the earth is 12000 km.
Hrm, so I recall this article in Discovery magazine several years ago where a model of Earth sans water was featured and it basically looked like a hamburger with stalactites and stalagmites all over it. In my efforts to find something similar I found sufficient evidence to withdraw my statement.

[CJay8]

awesome!! thats my birthday

Happy Full Moon Birthday. Mine is the following day, March 20th aka Vernal Equinox. I hope there is something left for me to celebrate but just in case I'm gonna party on your birfday like it's mine, howl at the moon, all that good shit...

[CJay8]

Post your best photo of the extreme supermoon here. I'll post mine.


Straight to the bottom, someone had to be the first to do it.


http://www.cheeseplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/mooning.jpg

[Santa]

i got my wife a Telescope i can hook it to my laptop . i need to find out if i can hook it up an take pictures with it ... here the one i got her .... http://www.telescopes.com/telescopes/catadioptric-telescopes/meade6inchlstelescopewithlightswitchtechnology1.cf m ... do any of you know if i can take pic with this


If you can view the sky from your monitor then yes, you'll already be taking digital pics,
but if you can only align the telescope from the laptop, then no, you'll need a camera attached to the telescope.

[Horn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4lIFEDFYIw

[Spectrism]

I really expect that we have not seen the end of this. It is just the beginning.

The frightening thing I heard today on the news as a USGS "expert" was interviewed is that the earthquake activity over the last 12 months is not out of the usual. What we have seen in the last couple years is nothing compared to what is about to hit us.

[Horn]

I really expect that we have not seen the end of this. It is just the beginning.

The frightening thing I heard today on the news as a USGS "expert" was interviewed is that the earthquake activity over the last 12 months is not out of the usual. What we have seen in the last couple years is nothing compared to what is about to hit us.


8.9 would be hard to top, guess we'll see.

I'm looking more for the electrical effect on the human synapse from here on out.

[Libertytree]

I really expect that we have not seen the end of this. It is just the beginning.

The frightening thing I heard today on the news as a USGS "expert" was interviewed is that the earthquake activity over the last 12 months is not out of the usual. What we have seen in the last couple years is nothing compared to what is about to hit us.


8.9 would be hard to top, guess we'll see.

I'm looking more for the electrical effect on the human synapse from here on out.


Care to elaborate on this?

[SLV^GLD]

What he means is he is looking to see how people are going to react. My guess is you will not see plundering and rioting.

[Horn]

Care to elaborate on this?

Its March, add to that an amplified moon, and it screams double loonies.

[gunDriller]

Care to elaborate on this?

Its March, add to that an amplified moon, and it screams double loonies.


is this an astrology thing ... a basketball thing ("March Madness") ... an Irish thing ?

i'm not a moon-ologist, but i vaguely recall that the moon is normally about 235,000 to 240,000 miles from the earth.

during the extreme super-moon, it will be 215,000 miles away - about 15,000 miles closer. (details in one of the threads about the Japan quake).

long story short, it will be pulling on the (for example) 2 tectonic plates that comprise the San Andreas fault, with about 20% more force. that's a lot.

there is no slack in the world economy or the California economy for another geological event. of course, for Mother Nature, a 9 or 10 Richter quake is nothing.

on the other hand - 18 years ago, during the last extreme supermoon, what happened ? 1993 that would be.

oh yeah. Clinton was inaugurated. :o :o :o :o

[Horn]

.. an Irish thing ?

They're always after me lucky charms. ;)

Actually I've heard it from my Irish mother, and someone else's Japanese mother.

Maybe it's an old wives tail, but I tend to agree with it.

[sirgonzo420]

I have no doubt that the earth, when seen without water, would still be described as "spherical."


I'd say so.


Here's a random rendering:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zLjlNdFQzMc/S9BVpg1HBwI/AAAAAAAAAZE/7HHTbyNfQq4/s1600/earth_Earth_without_water_2_1__Adirondack.jpg

[MNeagle]

Bump, in case radiation now in the U.S. isn't enough doom for you...

[Neuro]

awesome!! thats my birthday

Happy Full Moon Birthday. Mine is the following day, March 20th aka Vernal Equinox. I hope there is something left for me to celebrate but just in case I'm gonna party on your birfday like it's mine, howl at the moon, all that good shit...
Be careful you don't breath in too many radioactive particles, while out moonhowling! Happy birthday to you both!

[MNeagle]

Should be dark here w/in 30 minutes. But we're having so much cloud cover I'm not sure we'll even be able to see the moon tonight.

[ximmy]

Should be dark here w/in 30 minutes. But we're having so much cloud cover I'm not sure we'll even be able to see the moon tonight.



clouds here too, we might miss the sooper-moon

[Horn]

clouds here too, we might miss the sooper-moon

Be sure, that it won't miss yoooou...

http://d4022927.u68.websitesource.net/images/wolf-howling.jpg

[Kali]

Almost dark here...too many clouds to see it...no doom yet either...I hoping for a 9.0 + quake to shake everyone up and get this party started.

[Mad_Max]

Nice full moon, doesn't seem any bigger.

Extreme amount of strange people out there.

[solid]

No moon of doom here either, can't see it anyhow, but a storm. Blowing 30 out of the south right now and causing some action.

Not fun, but definitely NOT earthquake weather. I'll take the storm any day... ;D

[MNeagle]

Still very early Solid. Stay safe.

[mick silver]

what that thing on the left side of the moon it look almost red

[SLV^GLD]

I have a decent view of it here. I expect it will appear bigger as it moves higher in the sky.

[sirgonzo420]

I have a decent view of it here. I expect it will appear bigger as it moves higher in the sky.


I thought it was usually the opposite.

That is to say, that the moon appears larger when it is close to the horizon.

[Santa]

Here's a shot of the infamous "Supermoon" I just took fairly low and murky on the horizon.
Taken with an equivalent 570mm telephoto lens.
I don't think it'll appear bigger later on, but it should be clearer, sharper and brighter when it's high in the sky.

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/jackconrad/junk/c2904700.jpg

[MNeagle]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35067687@N04/5541053611


Perigee Moon (201103190001HQ)
The full moon is seen as it rises near the Lincoln Memorial, Saturday, March 19, 2011, in Washington. The full moon tonight is called a "Super Perigee Moon" since it is at it's closest to Earth in 2011. The last full moon so big and close to Earth occurred in March of 1993. Photo Credit: (NASA/Bill Ingalls)


Won't allow me to embed link, but it's quite beautiful fyi.

[Serpo]

The moon looks bigger too me........

[BrewTech]

Some of the best photos submitted to spaceweather.com

http://spaceweather.com/swpod2011/20mar11/Paco-Bellido1.jpg?PHPSESSID=6gra433casrlkb3hft44jgnf16

http://www.spaceweather.com/submissions/pics/p/Peter-Scott-_MG_7812_1300584727.jpg

http://www.spaceweather.com/submissions/pics/s/Stephan-Heinsius-C0064-033-Frankfurter-Riesenvollmond-900x600_1300566757.jpg

http://www.spaceweather.com/submissions/pics/m/Marek-Nikodem-DSC_7404a_1300581635.jpg

http://www.spaceweather.com/submissions/pics/g/Gregory-Scheckler-Moonrise-SuperPerigee-Scheckler-Mar19-2011web_1300581620.jpg

http://www.spaceweather.com/submissions/pics/k/Kevin-Palmer-IMGP9849small_1300588120.jpg

http://www.spaceweather.com/submissions/pics/b/Bryan-Hansel-hansel_bryan_110319-40_1300585373.jpg


The last one looks like a nuke going off on the horizon.

I could use a vacation... I'm pretty much doomed out.

[iOWNme]

Thanks for the pics guys.....I had clouds, clouds, and more clouds.....And probably some radiation and chemtrails as well. LOL I only had a clear view for about 10 min, it was quite beautiful though.

[Horn]

The moon looks bigger too me........


That's what she said.

[keehah]

I really expect that we have not seen the end of this. It is just the beginning.

Knut died suddenly in his compound Saturday afternoon, March 19. (http://www.care2.com/causes/animal-welfare/blog/knut-germanys-famous-polar-bear-dies-in-front-of-600-visitors-video/)
Knut is dead: Collapses and dies in front of 600 visitors (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1367921/Knut-dead-German-polar-bear-dies-600-visitors-Berlin-Zoo.html#ixzz1HGuXkNJO)

By DAILY MAIL REPORTER

Berlin Mayor Klaus Wowereit called Knut's death 'awful'.
'We all held him so dearly,' he told daily newspaper B.Z. 'He was the star of the Berlin zoo.'..

[Knut] rose to global fame after he was rejected by his mother when he was born in captivity on December 5, 2006. The fluffy cub was shown to the public 15 weeks later, and attendance at the zoo has roughly doubled since, officials said.

The resulting 'Knutmania' led to a 2007 Vanity Fair cover with actor Leonardo DiCaprio shot by famed photographer Annie Leibovitz.

Though the zoo has never released exact numbers, Knut merchandise including postcards, key chains, candy and stuffed Knuts have brought in hundreds of thousands of euros.

Although Knut was the first polar bear to be born and survive at Berlin Zoo in more than 30 years, his tragic young life was blighted by tragedy from the start..

Knut began life in an incubator at the Berlin Zoo, Germany, after his 20-year-old mother Tosca showed a complete lack of motherly instinct and abandoned him and his twin brother. But Knut amazed medical staff at the zoo by clinging to life. After spending his first 44 days in an incubator, he was put in the care of zoo keeper Thomas Dörflein, who began raising the infant with round-the clock care.

News of the cub's miraculous survival was picked up by the world's media and the young cub became the zoo's top attraction.

But tragedy struck again before Knut's second birthday in 2008, when Mr Dorflein died of a sudden heart attack at the age of 44.

Observers noted that the bear appeared to suffer from depression in the weeks after his beloved keeper and constant companion died.

Experts had earlier warned that the Knut was developing into a 'psychopath' who was too dependent on human contact..

Knut was the only one to pull through after his twin brother died. Bottle fed and showered with human affection, his 'little-boy-lost' look melted everyone's hearts..

While Knut was a massive hit with the public, German newspapers reported that he was bullied by fellow bears, and scientists said he suffered from an attention-seeking psychological disorder..

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/19/article-1367921-0B40279C00000578-670_634x395.jpg

Despite social and psychological problems, zoo officials said he was suffering no obvious health problems up until the day he suddenly died.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/20/article-1367921-02AD6394000005DC-293_634x383.jpg

[Awoke]

Meh. It was full and big, but certainly not dangerous.

[Horn]

Meh. It was full and big, but certainly not dangerous.


Thank God, we still have our 2 knuts.