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Ponce
10th March 2011, 09:46 AM
Sure.....but at what price?........and from whom?........no jobs, no factories, no cash, no life.......all that we can afford is made in China.
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Would Implementing 'Buy American' Laws Help Boost Our Economy?


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As local leaders scramble to reignite their economies, some are pushing for their own governments to pitch in and buy local.

More than 20 states already have "Buy American" laws, though it's rarely enforced. But with local and state governments spending nearly $2 trillion, officials are starting to pay closer attention, according to ABC News.

"A pretty large share of dollars the state spends with local businesses go into local wages," Stacy Mitchell, a senior researcher with the Institute for Local Self-Reliance, told ABC News. "The business is also sourcing some of the stuff it needs to operate from other local businesses. And so there's just more economic activity, more income, and that means more tax revenue."
Would Implementing 'Buy American' Laws Help Boost Our Economy?


In Minnesota, law enforcement agencies must buy U.S.-made uniforms and protective gear. Illinois agencies, looking for plastic goods, must favor companies that use by-products from the state's corn, and North Dakota mandates that state office buildings can only fly American flags that were sewn in the U.S.

But critics say "Buy American" laws are probably illegal, because it tramples on the federal government's rights on commerce, and that it is inefficient and increases the cost for the taxpayers who pay the bills.

"Local preference laws distort economic markets, serve as a barrier to free competition, and increase procurement costs because of the need to verify that businesses or products qualify for a socioeconomic benefit," Matt Grayson, a spokesman for the National Association of State Procurement Officials, told ABC News.

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SLV^GLD
10th March 2011, 09:51 AM
I have witnessed first-hand that the Buy American Act destroys competition and punishes the top performer in very much the same ways as the Divershitty push to require the hiring of minority owned businesses. It's not a fucking free market if the government tells you who you have to hire and where to source your products. Everyone sufferers, even the ones who are supposedly on the benefit side of things.

madfranks
10th March 2011, 10:15 AM
"Would Implementing 'Buy American' Laws Help Boost Our Economy?"

Of course not. The only reason you would pass such laws is because people are buying less expensive items from elsewhere. If American prices were lower, you wouldn't need a law to make people buy them, they would buy them because they would be affordable. Passing such laws makes consumers pay higher prices for things than they otherwise would, and making people pay higher prices hurts the economy.

steyr_m
10th March 2011, 11:09 AM
I don't know. I'd have to agree with madfranks & SLV^GLD on a certain level; but disagree at the same time. We're losing our manufacturing base because there is no free market (and because of greed). I don't think there's tonnes of American goods for sale in China for the Chinese consumers to buy. Plus, the chinese have purposely kept their yuan devalued to keep the Chin. junk cheaper. If they don't play fair, we should have imposed tariffs until they did play fair. Our "leadership" is bent on destroying the country, so of course it wasn't done.

Book
10th March 2011, 11:15 AM
With their $2 per day labor cost there is NO way we can ever "compete" with China.

Anybody now paying for "retraining" or "education" in America is getting ripped off.

Those jobs are NEVER coming back.

lapis
10th March 2011, 11:21 AM
With their $2 per day labor cost there is NO way we can ever "compete" with China.

Well, couldn't they take away the incentives that make it so easy to do business with China? American corporations ought not be able to be incorporated in this country if they're not even going to actually do most of their business here, in addition to all the tax breaks they get.

If American corporations like China so much, why don't they go incorporate over there!

bellevuebully
10th March 2011, 11:31 AM
Sure. If they made anything.

DMac
10th March 2011, 11:37 AM
With their $2 per day labor cost there is NO way we can ever "compete" with China.

Anybody now paying for "retraining" or "education" in America is getting ripped off.

Those jobs are NEVER coming back.




The Chinese can afford to pay $2 an hour because the US based corps that moved their factories there were given massive incentives to do so by the US Government!

steyr_m
10th March 2011, 11:39 AM
Those jobs are NEVER coming back.



yep, never....

Cobalt
10th March 2011, 03:19 PM
Here is an example how the "Free Trade Market" works in China that a good friend of mine witnesses all the time.

American company ships 5 containers of Washington State grown apples, they arrive on the docks in China and the inspectors there claim the agriculture import papers are not in order, the containers are immediately moved an stored in a quarantine area while the so called "paperwork problem" is attempted to get fixed.

9 weeks later the shipment is cleared.
So the apples sat for 9 weeks without payment
After 9 weeks of fresh apples sitting in a steel container they are pretty much turned into mush and rejected by the importing company.


Fuk China and every company here in the states that sells our jobs over there

Sparky
10th March 2011, 04:19 PM
With their $2 per day labor cost there is NO way we can ever "compete" with China.

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Tariffs would solve this, right? But they don't implement tariffs because prices here would go up and people would complain and elections would be lost.

mick silver
10th March 2011, 05:07 PM
plus this would get in the way of the NWO .

mightymanx
10th March 2011, 05:12 PM
Nope, buy american laws will not work and they destroy free markets like others have said (not that we have a free market).

There is a snazzy thing that was created to balance the scales of comerce, they were called tarrifs.

As we know that is not part of the plan now is it.

mick silver
10th March 2011, 05:14 PM
it gone to far to fix the stuff that they have done to this country

ximmy
10th March 2011, 05:17 PM
Would Implementing 'Buy American' Laws Help Boost Our Economy?

What a stupid thing to say... like telling the Hebrews to make more bricks without straw...

hoarder
10th March 2011, 05:19 PM
I'd like to replace the income tax with a tariff on foreign products. While we're at it we could abolish about 3/4 of the regulations that made it impossible for domestic manufacturers to compete with the Chinese.

mick silver
10th March 2011, 05:24 PM
dam hoarder your a dreamer . but what you said would go a long way to

Santa
10th March 2011, 06:17 PM
It should be considered treason punishable by death for our own government agencies, large or small to invest the peoples funds outside the US.

Book
10th March 2011, 06:20 PM
With their $2 per day labor cost there is NO way we can ever "compete" with China.



Tariffs would solve this, right? But they don't implement tariffs because prices here would go up and people would complain and elections would be lost.



Serious question: How do two billion Earthlings live on two dollars per day?

:dunno

Ponce
10th March 2011, 06:46 PM
[quote=Sparky ]
[quote=Book ]

With their $2 per day labor cost there is NO way we can ever "compete" with China.


Serious question: How do two billion Earthlings live on two dollars per day?

:dunno


Very simple, a meal for /15 cents, a soft dringk for /05 cents, transportation for .03 cents, rental for $9.00 a month, power for $1.20 a month .........and so on......is not what you eran but rather what you pay, and here we pay to much.

SLV^GLD
10th March 2011, 06:49 PM
Serious question: How do two billion Earthlings live on two dollars per day?

:dunno
By subsidizing day to day existence and essentials at the manufacturing workplace. The existence costs considerably more than $2/day but $2/day is all the worker is actually paid in currency. ($2/day number used as your arbitrary point of reference)

Trinity
10th March 2011, 07:43 PM
Would Implementing 'Buy American' Laws Help Boost Our Economy?

No. But reversing this would help plenty.
And China devaluing there currency with the blessing of Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich back in 1994 is the ONLY reason we have the import problem with that country.

mightymanx
11th March 2011, 08:00 AM
I would say it's not the only problem. NAFTA CAFTA and all the other baby AFTA's sure in the hell don't help the situation.

But we look at it through the prizim of that is right, not how it works in acordance to the plan. It is going perfectly if you just shed that pesky morality that is holding you back.