Earthquake Japan: 7.9 **Updated to a 8.9 quake**

[Olmstein]

shit for real?


Shit is very real.

[Buddha]

shit for real?


shit is very real.


I don't know what to say

[Osaka]

Can someone give advice on how far away one needs to be from this? I suspect they are keeping a lid on the informaiton to avoide a panic in Tokyo, 160 miles away. I am 300 miles away.

[Olmstein]

A lot depends on the weather, but the best answer is "as far away as possible".

CNN here is showing satellite weather videos and it looks like the prevailing winds are going towards the east, towards the Pacific, and away from the Japanese mainland.

Keep us posted on any local info, and stay safe Osaka.

[Twisted Titan]

In a situation like that would iodine pills and a filter mask be of any help?

Dam......its cheronobly all over agian

[Osaka]

Yes, that was the wind situation, and I am 300 miles in the other direction. They just doubled the evacuatoion distance to 20 kilometers from the reactor.

[Argent]

Osaka,
If you have not taken the time to watch the documentary that was done on Chernobyl, now might be a good time it is free on you tube.
Take care

[Olmstein]

The government seems to be trying to control access to the nuke plants.

From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12720219).


Thousands of people have been ordered to evacuate the area within a 10-km radius of the plant. BBC correspondent Nick Ravenscroft said police stopped him 60km from the Fukushima 1 plant.

[Osaka]

Japanese Prime Minister news conference. I will update this post as he speaks.

50,000 Japanese soldiers mobilized to help. Nuclear plant back up did not work.

Undersecretary says the core is not exposed, but that the containing building was blown away. Says radiation levels have decreased after the explosion. Started adding boric acid to (something) about 20 minutes ago.

[oldmansmith]

Do you have potassium iodine pills Osaka? I have them for just such an event; who knows, the way the wind is blowing we might need them here in the US.

[pathotoko]

I used to live in a town called Shinchi which got hit very hard. I worry about my former friends and students there. The destruction is just devastating.

http://pathotoko.blogspot.com/2011/03/off-topic-earthquake-and-tsunami-hit.html

[Neuro]

Can someone give advice on how far away one needs to be from this? I suspect they are keeping a lid on the informaiton to avoide a panic in Tokyo, 160 miles away. I am 300 miles away.
As said before, it depends a lot on the weather. When Chernobyl exploded in 1986, with a core meltdown. Parts of middle Sweden got a high exposure, especially in an area where it rained. Chernobyl is of course a very long way from Sweden, don't know exactly, but I would imagine that it is about a 1000 miles. Even in the prevailing wind direction between Chernobyl and Sweden was there as much fallout as in this area of Sweden that got rain. Still in those areas radiation levels are so elevated, that you are advised not to eat wild meat more than a couple of times per year. As far as I understand, taking Iodine will not give any protection, apart from the momentary radiation exposure, if you ingest or breathe in radioactive material, that will remain in your body and continue to give radiation, until the radioactive material has been expelled from the body, or it's decayed into different non radioactive substances. Probably more effective to take a shower, and avoid going out, than to take iodine pills, if a radioactive cloud is heading your way...

[Osaka]

Can someone give advice on how far away one needs to be from this? I suspect they are keeping a lid on the informaiton to avoide a panic in Tokyo, 160 miles away. I am 300 miles away.
As said before, it depends a lot on the weather. When Chernobyl exploded in 1986, with a core meltdown. Parts of middle Sweden got a high exposure, especially in an area where it rained. Chernobyl is of course a very long way from Sweden, don't know exactly, but I would imagine that it is about a 1000 miles. Even in the prevailing wind direction between Chernobyl and Sweden was there as much fallout as in this area of Sweden that got rain. Still in those areas radiation levels are so elevated, that you are advised not to eat wild meat more than a couple of times per year. As far as I understand, taking Iodine will not give any protection, apart from the momentary radiation exposure, if you ingest or breathe in radioactive material, that will remain in your body and continue to give radiation, until the radioactive material has been expelled from the body, or it's decayed into different non radioactive substances. Probably more effective to take a shower, and avoid going out, than to take iodine pills, if a radioactive cloud is heading your way...


Thank you.

As an update. Apparently the explosion was a hydrogen explosion which blew up the reactor containment building, but did not break the reactor itself open.

CNN is reporting 9500 missing, but I am not seeing that number anywhere on the TV here in Japan.

[Book]

Can someone give advice on how far away one needs to be from this? I suspect they are keeping a lid on the informaiton to avoide a panic in Tokyo, 160 miles away. I am 300 miles away.



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[Neuro]

Well let us hope that the reactor holds, and that no great amount of radiation gets out. As a sidenote, one of my friends later on, told me he went to the US as an exchange student, and he told me that according to the news there Sweden was pretty much a nuclear wasteland, he tried to call home, but his parents were out, probably working at the time of his call, but his host family told him that he could stay with them from then on, if his family was gone... As far as I understand it, even though one particular area of Sweden, got a lot of exposure, and you are not advised to eat wild meat and mushrooms from this particular area regularly. Still I don't think that this exposure is evident in mortality or cancer rates in the population area. I really don't think people in the US needs to be worried one bit, about exposure, probably the worry itself will kill many more people than any radiation exposure...

[Son-of-Liberty]

Very good video summary of the destruction in Japan. Had me tearing up a little. Don't know if there is a way to embed but here is the link.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2011/mar/12/japan-confronts-quake-devastation-video

[Santa]

It's just amazing how calm the Japanese people have been during the course of this devastation. Positively serene.

As I watch these video's, it strikes me as living poetry. A horrible beauty unfolding. They honor the world with their presence.

[Horn]

It's just amazing how calm the Japanese people have been during the course of this devastation. Positively serene.

As I watch these video's, it strikes me as living poetry. A horrible beauty unfolding. They honor the world with their presence.


I think they're are totally devastated emotionally. As a people, i think they've always felt themselves cursed in some fashion.

Very honorable people yes, but proud to a fault.

I feel a deep sorrow for them.

[sunnyandseventy]

It's good that when disasters like this happen it's usually on a holiday or over the weekend; that way it gives "markets" time to digest the information.

[bellevuebully]

Well let us hope that the reactor holds, and that no great amount of radiation gets out.

It's already out Neuro. All of the coolant in these systems is irradiated. All of the steam that drives these turbines originates in the boiler with the core and carries fission products within it. If they have lost their coolant (read boiler level) and have depleted all of their emergency backup coolant (read it all leaked out of the system in the same fashion as the boiler water did), the fact is, there has already been a large radiation release.

[Osaka]

Can someone give advice on how far away one needs to be from this? I suspect they are keeping a lid on the informaiton to avoide a panic in Tokyo, 160 miles away. I am 300 miles away.



Thank you.

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[Publico Pro Se]

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[Publico Pro Se]

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What??? No "Thank You" from you. And as for you loving me ... must you carry-on like you live in one of those homo-marriage states?

[SLV^GLD]

What??? No "Thank You" from you. And as for you loving me ... must you carry-on like you like in one of those homo-marriage states?
Look, I gave you a thanks but the penis stays vagina-centric, regardless. You can introduce the state as a third party to some other relationship.

[Cobalt]

Can someone give advice on how far away one needs to be from this? I suspect they are keeping a lid on the informaiton to avoide a panic in Tokyo, 160 miles away. I am 300 miles away.



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[Cobalt]

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[vacuum]

Someone already mentioned that Iodine pills only help provide some protection from radioactive Iodine isotopes. The byproducts of this plant were apparently mostly radioactive Cesium isotopes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_iodide#Thyroid_protection_due_to_nuclear _accidents_and_emergencies

[Cobalt]

Japan is issuing it


Japanese officials announced plans to distribute potassium iodide pills, which block radioactive iodine from accumulating in the thyroid glands, causing thyroid cancer, to people living around the Fukushima Daiichi facility and another damaged plant about seven miles away.

Of the radioactive elements released in a nuclear plant leak, radioactive iodine has a relatively short "half-life" of eight days, which means that it essentially disappears within about 80 days, Mettler said. In comparison, another radioactive substance released by nuclear power plants, cesium-137, has a half-life of about 30 years, meaning it poses a much greater risk because it gets into the food chain.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/12/AR2011031203446.html

[MNeagle]

half-life" of eight days, which means that it essentially disappears within about 80 days

This makes no sense. What is it, 8 or 80 days??

Or just a typo & they dropped the "Y" on eight??

[vacuum]

half-life" of eight days, which means that it essentially disappears within about 80 days

This makes no sense. What is it, 8 or 80 days??

Or just a typo & they dropped the "Y" on eight??

Lets say you start out with 256 kg of radioactive Iodine.

After day 8 you have 128 kg (1/2 has decayed)
after day 16 you have 64 kg
after day 24 you have 32 kg
after day 32 you have 16 kg
after day 40 you have 8 kg
after day 48 you have 4 kg
after day 56 you have 2 kg
after day 64 you have 1 kg
after day 72 you have 0.5 kg
after day 80 you have 0.25 kg of the original 256 kg

[MNeagle]

ah, gotcha. Thank you for the explanation.

[vacuum]

Look at these skyscrapers swaying during/after the quake:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhJzdtzl6KY

[beefsteak]

My question is why is Wiki throwing everyone including Jack Benny under the bus who is over the age of 39, with a "no [IOSAT] dosage reco?"

I know US Postal employees, even assistant postmasters who are issued their Potassium Iodide pills upon signing of a non-disclosure agreement and they are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY over the age of 39.

Could the person who spoke to the "half-life" calculation, or whatever, weigh in on the "ageism" matter? Not all of us on the planet are younger than Jack Benny.

Thanks.

[gunDriller]

Do you have potassium iodine pills Osaka? I have them for just such an event; who knows, the way the wind is blowing we might need them here in the US.


just think how the Chinese people feel.

it would be convenient (for us) to have a high-pressure system over the Western US for the next 6 months.

i think the surfing term is "offshore" winds.

[JohnQPublic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBccBKQ0oLU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3K1w7u04Zo

[JohnQPublic]

California beach front property does not seem so attractive any more.

[Book]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBccBKQ0oLU

JQP just posted above this jaw-dropping video that is now all over the MSM. The best so far that demonstrates the POWER.

[AndreaGail]

just another reminder to prep


DENVER - Japan's prime minister says the country is facing its most severe challenge since World War II after a deadly earthquake and tsunami devastated the country last week.

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Colorado native Charles Pribyl is a college professor currently living in Japan. He's been living in Funibashe, a city just east of Tokyo, for 23 years.

He says the bad news just keeps pouring in.

"It seems like its going to get worse before it becomes better. Everybody is really worried about radiation," Pribyl said.

A reactor at a nuclear power plant collapsed Saturday in North Eastern Japan, possibly causing radiation exposure to hundreds.

To add to the problems, the failed reactor was responsible for 25 percent of the city's electricity.

"The problem now is that they announced the rolling blackout that will be for about one month, and depending on where you live it, could be up to 3 three hours," Pribyl said.

He also says they were just told their water is unsafe to drink.

"They're trying to find the source of the contamination, but for now, they're saying drink bottled water," he said.

Pribyl says that, in itself, could be a problem. He says food, water and gas were already hard to find.

"Right now, all of the convenience stores are closed because they ran out food, because people are hoarding food now. And the gas station I usually go to is closed because they are out of gas," he said.
He says in most of the country, the shaking created by aftershocks has yet to subside.

"We are still having earthquakes about every 20-30 minutes now, and they're ranging in magnitude between 3 and 6," Pribyl said.

The devastation is really starting to set it according to Pribyl.

"Most people are still in shock. They never thought it would really happen," he said.

If you want to help, donations can be made to several different Japanese tsunami and earthquake relief funds. More information can be found here: How people can help the Japanese earthquake recovery.

Also if you are looking for a loved one in Japan, visit http://www.familylinks.icrc.org/ to register. Or contact the State Department, Office of Overseas Citizens Services, at 1-888-407-4747 or 202-647-5225.

(KUSA-TV © 2011 Multimedia Holdings Corporation)

[gunDriller]

California beach front property does not seem so attractive any more.


a lot of the primo homes in San Diego are on the edge of a sandstone cliff.

it's part sandstone, part, compressed sand. about once a year a piece falls off on someone laying on the beach, trying to get some shade, too close to the cliff.

a Fukushima-magnitude tidal wave would chew away at that cliff. i would want to be at least a 1/2 mile inland.

some areas, like the Del Mar racetrack, would just get devastated. the freeway is maybe 15 feet above sea level there.

towns like Pacific Beach and Mission Beach would cease to exist. same for Coronado.

the view areas are La Jolla, a hill that goes up about 500 feet vertical, lots of million dollar homes. that would be a "safe" (relatively) place to watch it from.

in NorCal, Crescent City had their BIG tsunami in 1964.

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[platinumdude]

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Large new tsunami to hit Japan coast within minutes

A new three-metre (10 foot) high tsunami rolled toward the disaster-shattered northeast coast of Japan early Monday, with authorities warning it would strike within minutes.

[osoab]

Video of the reactor building that just blew up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIZKlaEZMLY&feature=player_embedded

[solid]

Nothing even remotely compared to Japan, but this is the tsunami that hit that harbor on the west coast. Crazy we were affected from that disaster so far away.

http://www.weather.com/outlook/videos/raw-watch-tsunami-move-through-harbor-19994

[MNeagle]

Earthquake Moves Japan Eight Feet, Shifting Earth's Axis; Entire Villages Vanish Under Wall of Water; Nuclear Crisis Expands to 2nd Reactor


Scientists upgraded the devastating earthquake that struck Japan from 8.8 or 8.9 to 9.0 on the Richter Scale. That may not sound like much but the scale is logarithmic effectively doubling the estimated size of the quake.

Regardless of what the number is, the quake was devastating enough to move the main island of Japan 8 feet while shifting the earth on its axis. Entire villages in Northern Japan are missing, swept away by the resultant tsunamis.

Meanwhile Japanese authorities struggling with additional meltdowns have flooded a second reactor with seawater hoping to cool the plant. This is a desperate action that will probably ruin both facilities.

Power outages and lack of fresh water add to the misery.

Villages, Trains Vanish Under Wall of Water

The New York Times reports Japan Pushes to Rescue Survivors as Quake Toll Rises


While nuclear experts were grappling with possible meltdowns at two reactors after the devastating earthquake and ensuing tsunami in northern Japan, the country was mobilizing a nationwide rescue effort to pluck survivors from collapsed buildings and rush food and water to hundreds of thousands of people without water, electricity, heat or telephone service.

Entire villages in parts of Japan’s northern Pacific coast have vanished under a wall of water, and many communities are cut off, leaving the country trying to absorb the scale of the destruction even as fears grew over the unfolding nuclear emergency.

In the port town of Minamisanriku, nearly 10,000 people were unaccounted for, according to the public broadcaster NHK. Much of the northeast was impassable, and by late Saturday rescuers had not arrived in the worst-hit areas.

JR, the railway company, reported that three passenger trains had not been accounted for as of Saturday night, amid fears that they were swept away by the tsunami. There were reports of as many as 3,400 buildings destroyed and 200 fires raging. Analysts estimated that total insured losses from the quake could hit $15 billion, Reuters reported.

Even as estimates of the death toll from Friday’s quake rose, Japan’s prime minister, Naoto Kan, said 100,000 troops would be mobilized for the increasingly desperate rescue recovery effort. Meanwhile, several ships from the United States Navy joined the rescue effort. The McCampbell and the Curtis Wilbur, both destroyers, prepared to move into position off Miyagi Prefecture.

One-third of Kesennuma, a city of 74,000, was reported to be submerged, the BBC said, and photographs showed fires continued to rage there. Iwate, a coastal city of 23,000 people, was reported to be almost completely destroyed, the BBC said.
Crisis Expands to Second Nuclear Plant

MarketWatch reports Japanese nuclear-power crisis expands to second plant

Citing Japan’s Fire and Disaster Management Agency, Kyodo News reported the cooling system failed at the Tokai No. 2 Power station. No additional information was available. Tokai, about 75 miles from Tokyo and the site of nuclear-research facilities as well as the power plant, was the site of a 1999 radiation leak, known as the Tokaimura accident, that killed two technicians.

Word of the problem at Tokai came as Japanese nuclear authorities continued working Sunday to avert nuclear meltdown at an earthquake-damaged power plant, Prime Minister Naoto Kan warned Japan of large-scale power blackouts and said the disaster was the country’s biggest crisis since World War II. That came as Japanese scientists increased their estimate of the largest earthquake in the nation’s history to magnitude 9.0 from 8.8, more than doubling the size and the destructive energy release in the Friday afternoon, local time, quake off the coast of Honshu.

[Officials] began flooding the second reactor with seawater, a drastic move that scientists have said might render the units unusable. But the water gauge in the No. 3 has stopped functioning, making it impossible to tell whether the procedure is succeeding, The Wall Street Journal reported.
Earthquake Moves Main Island Eight Feet and Shifts Earth on its Axis

CNN reports Earthquake Moves Japan Eight Feet, Shifting Earth's Axis

The powerful earthquake that unleashed a devastating tsunami Friday appears to have moved the main island of Japan by 8 feet (2.4 meters) and shifted the Earth on its axis.

"At this point, we know that one GPS station moved (8 feet), and we have seen a map from GSI (Geospatial Information Authority) in Japan showing the pattern of shift over a large area is consistent with about that much shift of the land mass," said Kenneth Hudnut, a geophysicist with the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS).

Reports from the National Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology in Italy estimated the 8.9-magnitude quake shifted the planet on its axis by nearly 4 inches (10 centimeters).

The Japanese quake comes just weeks after a 6.3-magnitude earthquake struck Christchurch on February 22, toppling historic buildings and killing more than 150 people. The timeframe of the two quakes have raised questions whether the two incidents are related, but experts say the distance between the two incidents makes that unlikely.

"I would think the connection is very slim," said Prof. Stephan Grilli, ocean engineering professor at the University of Rhode Island.
Bank of Japan Readies "Massive Liquidity"

Bloomberg reports Japan Readies ‘Massive’ Liquidity as BOJ Gauges Risk to Post-Quake Economy

Governor Masaaki Shirakawa told reporters late yesterday he’s ready to unleash “massive” liquidity starting this morning in Tokyo, as the BOJ seeks to assure financial stability.

Shirakawa and his board could opt to accelerate asset purchases, including government bonds and exchange-traded funds, within the existing credit programs, particularly if the yen climbs and stocks tumble, said Masaaki Kanno, chief Japan economist at JPMorgan Chase & Co. in Tokyo, who used to work at the central bank.

The economic hit from the March 11 quake will depend on how long it shuts down factories and the distribution of goods and services, with the potential meltdown at a nuclear power facility clouding the outlook. For now, the central bank is likely to ensure lenders have enough cash to settle transactions, and aim any additional steps at providing credit in the areas of northeastern Japan devastated by the temblor, analysts said.

Japan’s currency rose 1.4 percent to 81.84 per dollar March 11 amid prospects for Japanese investors to repatriate assets, bringing its gain in the past year to 10 percent. The government may order the BOJ to sell yen if it soars, Mansoor Mohi-uddin, head of global currency strategy at UBS AG in Singapore, wrote in a note.

Japan is already struggling with huge fiscal deficits and a debt-to-GDP ratio of 200%, highest in the G-20 group of nations. In response, government officials had been planning a series of tax hikes. You can now safely toss those hikes straight into the ashcan.

There is never a good time for a natural disaster, but this one could hardly have come at a worse time. Best wishes to all those affected by this crisis.

link (http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/03/earthquake-moves-japan-eight-feet.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MishsGlobalEconomicTrendAnaly sis+%28Mish%27s+Global+Economic+Trend+Analysis%29)

[MNeagle]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.7746b850479d38aba7d8729502fa503 6.201&show_article=1

Large new tsunami to hit Japan coast within minutes

A new three-metre (10 foot) high tsunami rolled toward the disaster-shattered northeast coast of Japan early Monday, with authorities warning it would strike within minutes.


New tsunami warning for Japan cancelled

AFTER initial reports of a three metre tsunami off the coast, the Meteorological Agency says there is no current risk of another deadly wave hitting Japan's northeastern coast.

Soldiers and officials along a stretch of Japan's northeastern coast had warned residents that the area could be hit by another tsunami, ordering them to higher ground.

Farther south along the coast, helicopters flew over coastal communities warning residents to head to higher ground.

In Sendai, the biggest city in the area, police announced warnings on a public address system.

Earlier, Jiji news agency reported that a large wave was spotted off the coast by a helicopter, but the meteorological agency says it had detected no sign of a new tsunami or a major quake that would have triggered it.

Authorities had issued evacuation orders in some parts of the devastated coastline after the initial report and as seawater was seen retreating off Iwate and Aomori prefectures - a phenomenon that occurs before tsunamis.

Public broadcaster NHK had reported that the crew of a fire department helicopter had spotted a three-metre high tsunami off Fukushima prefecture, saying it was expected to hit shortly after 1.30pm AEDT.

By 2pm AEDT no tsunami was reported to have hit.

A meteorological agency official told AFP: "When we detect an earthquake, the agency issues either a tsunami warning or an alert, but there was no quake monitored".

He added, as a note of caution, that some of the agency's offshore monitoring systems had been broken by last Friday's disaster.

An offshore quake had struck 140 kilometres northeast of Tokyo earlier today, shaking tall buildings in Tokyo, but authorities did not then issue a tsunami alert.

The quake off coastal Ibaraki prefecture - one of many aftershocks since Friday's massive 9 quake - had a 5.8-magnitude, said the US Geological Survey, which said the quake struck at a depth of 18 kilometres.

Meanwhile, an explosion has rocked a quake-damaged Japanese nuclear power plant but the reactor apparently has not been breached.

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/new-tsunami-set-to-hit-japan-report/story-e6frfku0-1226021098967

[Son-of-Liberty]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.7746b850479d38aba7d8729502fa503 6.201&show_article=1

Large new tsunami to hit Japan coast within minutes

A new three-metre (10 foot) high tsunami rolled toward the disaster-shattered northeast coast of Japan early Monday, with authorities warning it would strike within minutes.


New tsunami warning for Japan cancelled

AFTER initial reports of a three metre tsunami off the coast, the Meteorological Agency says there is no current risk of another deadly wave hitting Japan's northeastern coast.

Soldiers and officials along a stretch of Japan's northeastern coast had warned residents that the area could be hit by another tsunami, ordering them to higher ground.

Farther south along the coast, helicopters flew over coastal communities warning residents to head to higher ground.

In Sendai, the biggest city in the area, police announced warnings on a public address system.

Earlier, Jiji news agency reported that a large wave was spotted off the coast by a helicopter, but the meteorological agency says it had detected no sign of a new tsunami or a major quake that would have triggered it.

Authorities had issued evacuation orders in some parts of the devastated coastline after the initial report and as seawater was seen retreating off Iwate and Aomori prefectures - a phenomenon that occurs before tsunamis.

Public broadcaster NHK had reported that the crew of a fire department helicopter had spotted a three-metre high tsunami off Fukushima prefecture, saying it was expected to hit shortly after 1.30pm AEDT.

By 2pm AEDT no tsunami was reported to have hit.

A meteorological agency official told AFP: "When we detect an earthquake, the agency issues either a tsunami warning or an alert, but there was no quake monitored".

He added, as a note of caution, that some of the agency's offshore monitoring systems had been broken by last Friday's disaster.

An offshore quake had struck 140 kilometres northeast of Tokyo earlier today, shaking tall buildings in Tokyo, but authorities did not then issue a tsunami alert.

The quake off coastal Ibaraki prefecture - one of many aftershocks since Friday's massive 9 quake - had a 5.8-magnitude, said the US Geological Survey, which said the quake struck at a depth of 18 kilometres.

Meanwhile, an explosion has rocked a quake-damaged Japanese nuclear power plant but the reactor apparently has not been breached.

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/new-tsunami-set-to-hit-japan-report/story-e6frfku0-1226021098967


Thanks for the updates MNeagle you have been providing a lot of good information to these threads.

[SLV^GLD]

This was the last post by Osaka, 2 days ago.

Anyone know if he is still hanging in there or what? :boohoo

To all you other GSUS freaks, if real deal DOOM strikes and you can get logged in we expect updates, mmmkay?

[bellevuebully]

Osaka....you there. If you get this, and you are stuck for a way out or place to go, pm me.

[Cobalt]

NHK WORLD TV -​Japan Quake Ne​ws- (in Englis​h)

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv43296023

[DMac]

I have a friend living in Osaka, neither he or his wife have been online since Sunday.

If Osaka is still following these threads I hope to see an update, if only to bring me some peace of mind.

[Awoke]

Here is hoping that it is just a case of ISP's being down temporarily.

[uranian]

Name: FUKUSHIMA DAIICHI-1 (http://www.icjt.org/npp/podrobnosti.php?drzava=14&lokacija=818)
Type BWR
Thermal 439 MWh
Operating 17 Nov 70
Commercial 26 Mar 71
Shutdown 26 Mar 11
Operating years 32

a little odd that the plant was scheduled to close permanently around 10 days from now. according to the Nuclear Training Centre (ICJT), the leading research institution in Slovenia.

[Santa]

Osaka, the city, should be ok for the time being. It's in southwestern Japan. Utilities are still up,
but with this meltdown scenario, who knows. Maybe Osaka got the hell out of Dodge.

[sirgonzo420]

Osaka, the city, should be ok for the time being. It's in southwestern Japan. Utilities are still up,
but with this meltdown scenario, who knows. Maybe Osaka got the hell out of Dodge.


Osaka would be better off in Dodge than in Osaka!

:D

[mamboni]

Live streaming of geiger counter in Tokyo:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/%E3%82%AC%E3%82%A4%E3%82%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AB%E3%8 2%A6%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BF

[DMac]

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv#utm_campaigne=synclickback&source=http://cpswire.com/live-video-streams.html&medium=7497266

About an hour ago, a big 6.4 EQ hits Shizuoka area (Japanese EQ scale - USGS 6.1), about 10km from Mount Fuji (the gigantic mofo volcano).

This is a different plate area according to the scientist speaking now, he made it clear he is not sure if this is directly related to the big Friday quake.

Edit - They are stressing now this quake was in no way related to Friday's quake. This is a new incident.

[DMac]

More tsunami footage...crazy

http://vimeo.com/21002445

[Awoke]

That is the craziest footage I have seen yet.

By 3 minutes into it I was thinking "Holy crap, it can't get much worse!"

By 4 minutes into it I saw houses floating down the road....

[DMac]

Yeah the 4 minute mark...my jaw dropped. I cannot imagine being there.

[G2Rad]

wow!

[sirgonzo420]

That footage was incredible.

[Osaka]

If Osaka is still following these threads I hope to see an update, if only to bring me some peace of mind.



Sorry for the delay in updating.

Things here in Osaka are basically unchanged. A lot of business are turning off their lights early in an effort to conserve electricity, although this probably won't help much in that Osaka operates at 50 hertz and Tokyo at 60 hertz. Conversation of a large amount of electricity from one to the other and transporting that electricity is apparently difficult.

The electronics store at the mall has removed all of their flashlights and most of their batteries and apparently shipped them to places where they are more desperately needed. With 300,000 refugees in the country, many have decided to live in Osaka, at least temporarily.

Other than that, not much is different this far away from Fukushima and Tokyo.

[Olmstein]

Good to hear from you, Osaka. Does the local Japanese media have any different info then the western media about the nuclear plant in Fukushima?

[Neuro]

Good to hear from you Osaka, glad that you are well! Weird that a country has two different electric standards!

[crazychicken]

OSAKA

Good luck and all that to everyone there.

CC






If Osaka is still following these threads I hope to see an update, if only to bring me some peace of mind.



Sorry for the delay in updating.

Things here in Osaka are basically unchanged. A lot of business are turning off their lights early in an effort to conserve electricity, although this probably won't help much in that Osaka operates at 50 hertz and Tokyo at 60 hertz. Conversation of a large amount of electricity from one to the other and transporting that electricity is apparently difficult.

The electronics store at the mall has removed all of their flashlights and most of their batteries and apparently shipped them to places where they are more desperately needed. With 300,000 refugees in the country, many have decided to live in Osaka, at least temporarily.

Other than that, not much is different this far away from Fukushima and Tokyo.

[zap]

Glad to hear your ok Osaka.

[SLV^GLD]

Good to hear from you Osaka, glad that you are well! Weird that a country has two different electric standards!
A recent article (http://www.itworld.com/business/140626/legacy-1800s-leaves-tokyo-facing-blackouts) on this very subject.

East and West Japan were still relatively independent as late as the 1890s. It wasn't until after the Russo-Japanese war that the country really started to become unified. Japan was very much like Germany, essentially a very loosely affiliated set of states bound by geographical, linguistic, and cultural ties but often separated by bitter political and military rivalries. Even if someone had the foresight to force both sides to use the same standards they likely would not have had the political capital to make it a reality. That sort of political capital didn't really exist until after the Russo-Japanese war towards the end of the Meiji era.

The 50/60Hz split posed a problem for air conditioner manufacturers in Japan. Their solution was frequency-converting air conditioners that would work on either 50Hz or 60Hz. When they were first being installed it was not noticed that their characteristics over their range of operating voltages were not the same as conventional air conditioners. This problem became clear on a hot summer day in the late 1980's. TEPCO was importing power to the Tokyo area from nuclear plants a considerable distance away. Long distance transmission of electricity requires reactive power to maintain voltage at the receiving end. The frequency-converting air conditioners increased the need for reactive power in the Tokyo area. In early afternoon, TEPCO ran out of reactive power and the voltage collapsed, causing a major blackout. It was Japan's first major blackout that happened without some kind of event such as a lightning strike or a piece of equipment failing.

[keehah]

A survivor films tsunami at it engulfs him.
Curious lights at 07 and 2:30 in the right middle of the image 'above the waves'. [Perhaps is was along a power line?]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDz8rXeUaFM

[Horn]

Driver no dance'wa.

I have no idea, it's Not light being reflected back by the wet windshield, as far as I can tell.

[keehah]

Knutsler (not the bear) makes the case this could be a Social and National tipping point and Japan as a whole becomes an example of post peak power down.

http://kunstler.com/blog/2011/03/an-odd-rumination.html

What we're seeing these days is an epochal unspooling of hypercomplexity. The world just can't take anymore of it. The world is telling us to cut it out or it is going to kick our upright bipedal asses. Of course, America may be absolutely the last society to get this message. We'll receive it in the car-wash, no doubt. On our iPhones.