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beefsteak
17th June 2011, 12:47 PM
Oldmansmith,
I hear you brother. Prayers are going up for you just like we did for worried Twisted Titan for his now newly arrived little girl. You have a right to be concerned. Don't forget to check back in and let us know when your little girl makes her appearance and then again after she's 2 weeks old, okay? I'm sure all of us would like to know she's arrived safely! No need for passing out pink cigars, just the good news will be enough!

beefsteak

beefsteak
17th June 2011, 01:03 PM
Ft Calhoun Mark I, (G.E.) BWR model (Same Make/Model as Fukushima Dai-ichi #1 through #6 reactors) ... "Incident Report" plus a link so all incident reports' filings can be monitored by GS-USers.

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Power Reactor Event Number: 46965 Facility: FORT CALHOUN
Region: 4 State: NE
Unit: [1] [ ] [ ]
RX Type: (1) CE
NRC Notified By: SCOTT MOECK
HQ OPS Officer: PETE SNYDER Notification Date: 06/16/2011
Notification Time: 14:46 [ET]
Event Date: 06/16/2011
Event Time: 12:30 [CDT]
Last Update Date: 06/16/2011 Emergency Class: NON EMERGENCY
10 CFR Section:
50.72(b)(3)(ii)(B) - UNANALYZED CONDITION
50.72(b)(3)(v)(D) - ACCIDENT MITIGATION
Person (Organization):
GREG WERNER (R4DO)

Unit SCRAM Code RX CRIT Initial PWR Initial RX Mode Current PWR Current RX Mode 1 N N 0 Cold Shutdown 0 Cold Shutdown Event Text
ADDITIONAL PENETRATION IDENTIFIED FOR MITIGATION DURING WALKDOWN

"Operations identified a potential flooding issue in the Intake Structure 1007 ft. 6 in. level. The area of concern is a the hole in the floor at the 1007 ft. 6 in. level where the relief valve from FP-1A discharge pipe goes through the raw pump bay and discharges into the intake cell. There is one penetration of concern. Flooding through this penetration could have impacted the ability of the station's Raw Water (RW) pumps to perform their design accident mitigation functions.

"Efforts are in progress to seal the penetration.

"This eight-hour notification is being made pursuant to 10 CFR 50.72 (b)(3)(v)."

The licensee notified the NRC Resident Inspector.


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Additional observations:

1) Can't be the first time "a hole/ THAT hole" has been observed by employees/operators. What's with that???
Why hasn't it been plugged already???

2) 1007' 6" level? That's kind of "high" yes? Could this be a spent fuel pool intake reference? Something amiss here. The Missouri River isn't above flood stage by 1007'6"!!!!!!!!!!!

3) Wonder if they are going to have to experiment for weeks to find the "appropriate hole plugging material" ala Fukushima??


LINK TO NUKE INCIDENT REPORTS...at least 6/17/2011 recent ones--LINKS HERE. 46949 (http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/event-status/event/en.html#en46949) 46952 (http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/event-status/event/en.html#en46952) 46964 (http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/event-status/event/en.html#en46964) 46965 (http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/event-status/event/en.html#en46965) 46966 (http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/event-status/event/en.html#en46966)


PS... incident report # 46949 involves a medical facility and administration of a medical procedure. Fascinating what can be found on this site for use by the GS-US research minded folk.

47,000-ish NUKE INCIDENT REPORTS?? And Counting? ....HEAVEN HELP US ALL!!! As Robert Knight of Five O' Clock Shadow radio interview with Nuke Eng. Arnie Gunderson said in an interview earlier in last few days,
"If you want to have some sleepless nights read these incident report filings at bedtime." --Robert Knight, Radio Show Host.
:o :o :o :o :o

http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/event-status/


Check out this TODAY POSTED Omaha-World Herald photo!!!
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/249728_10150218029379630_6445219629_7064029_100917 9_n.jpg (http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/249728_10150218029379630_6445219629_7064029_100917 9_n.jpg)
This photo was taken today June 17th, 2011 at 08:51 AM by the World-Herald's Matt Miller.
That's the power plant near the bottom.



beefsteak

Serpo
17th June 2011, 02:41 PM
So they are building a tent like structure. What about the other 3 reactors?

Its going to be a circus

Serpo
17th June 2011, 02:50 PM
*BREAKING* May 16 report foreshadowed yesterday’s “event” at Calhoun nuke plant: Intake structure flooding through penetrations could jeopardize abilty to cool reactor
June 17th, 2011 at 05:18 PM

http://enenews.com/

June 16 NRC event report: Ft. Calhoun nuke plant: “Potential flooding issue in the Intake Structure” — “There is one penetration of concern” that could impact water pumps …Read More
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‘Event’ reported at Ft. Calhoun nuke plant: “Potential flooding issue in the Intake Structure” — “There is one penetration of concern” that could impact water pumps
June 17th, 2011 at 11:56 AM

Event Number: 46965, Current Event Notification Report for June 17, 2011, …Read More
55 comments

Tokyo Paper: What’s happening to children 50 km from Fukushima plant? Nosebleed, diarrhea, lack of energy
June 17th, 2011 at 11:04 AM

Radiation in Japan: Nosebleed, Diarrhea, Lack of Energy in Children in …Read More
30 comments
Three earless rabbits born in China — Mother used to give normal birth, only this time the newborns were different (VIDEO)
June 17th, 2011 at 10:24 AM
Three earless rabbits born in China — Mother used to give normal birth, only this time the newborns were different (VIDEO)

China Earless Rabbits, China Central Television, June 15, 2011:

[...] These …Read More
13 comments
Strange flashes followed by increased smoke/steam near Reactors No. 3 and 4 (VIDEO)
June 17th, 2011 at 09:27 AM
Strange flashes followed by increased smoke/steam near Reactors No. 3 and 4 (VIDEO)

TEPCO Reactor 4 SFP Large Release Fukushima Daiichi June 16, CompassNorthChicago, …Read More
33 comments
Omaha World-Herald: “Lots of questions today about the safety of the Fort Calhoun nuclear power plant. Check out this photo!”
June 17th, 2011 at 08:51 AM

Omaha World-Herald’s Photos, Facebook, June 16, 2011:

Lots of questions today …Read More
8 comments
NBC Nightly News: Concerns building over condition of Ft. Calhoun nuclear plant (VIDEO)
June 17th, 2011 at 08:22 AM

Officials say flooded nuclear plant safe, NBC Nightly News with Brian …Read More
8 comments
8.9 microsieverts/hour detected 40 km from Fukushima plant — Over triple what prefectural gov’t reported
June 17th, 2011 at 07:44 AM

Radiation screening in high demand in Fukushima, Asahi, June 17, 2011: …Read More
10 comments
NRC takes “unusual step” of sending top regional regulator and more inspectors to troubled Omaha nuke plant (PHOTO)
June 17th, 2011 at 06:47 AM

No danger seen at reactor, Omaha World-Herald, June 17, 2011:

Fort …Read More
23 comments
Radiation “hot spot” found near Tokyo in Chiba prefecture — 200 km south of Fukushima
June 17th, 2011 at 05:39 AM

The Geiger Club: Mothers Bust Silent Radiation Consensus, Wall Street Journal …Read More
12 comments
FOX: Is Iodine-131 Killing Babies In Philadelphia? Deaths up 48 percent since radiation levels spiked in tap water (VIDEO)
June 16th, 2011 at 11:57 PM

Is Iodine-131 Killing Babies In Philly?, Fox Philadelphia, June 16, 2011:

…Read More
109 comments
WSJ: Airborne radiation 40 times usual average detected 60 km from Fukushima plant on Wednesday
June 16th, 2011 at 06:24 PM

Moms Turn Activists in Japanese Crisis, Wall Street Journal by MARIKO …Read More
129 comments
Radioactive releases “not expected” at Omaha nuke plant — “As of now, there has been no risk to the public”
June 16th, 2011 at 05:35 PM

Radioactive Releases Not Expected at Omaha Nuclear Power Plant, ABC, June …Read More
38 comments
Radiation level in Tokyo much higher than publicly announced (VIDEO)
June 16th, 2011 at 03:16 PM
Radiation level in Tokyo much higher than publicly announced (VIDEO)

Radiation levels of the Japanese government spoof, 금.TV, June 16, 2011:Google …Read More
67 comments
Units No. 1, 2, and 3 “have nuclear waste on the floor” from melted cores
June 16th, 2011 at 02:14 PM

Fukushima: It’s much worse than you think, Dahr Jamail, June 16, …Read More
54 comments
392 nSv/hr today in South Korea (VIDEO)
June 16th, 2011 at 01:14 PM
392 nSv/hr is South Korea (VIDEO)

Thurs 16 June PM! Measure radiation levels, tteuahak! 392 nSv / …Read More
31 comments
Reactor No. 1 dry well hits 263 Sv/hour — Highest yet recorded
June 16th, 2011 at 12:06 PM
263sv

Radiation dose, Unit 1 nuclear power plant Hukushima, atmc.jp, June 16, …Read More
86 comments
Scientific experts believe Fukushima crisis is far worse than gov’ts are revealing publicly — Equivalent of 20 nuclear cores exposed
June 16th, 2011 at 11:33 AM

Fukushima: It’s much worse than you think, Dahr Jamail, June 16, …Read More
88 comments
300 square meter hole in Reactor No. 2 pressure suppression pool: NISA analysis
June 16th, 2011 at 08:44 AM

TEPCO starts up water treatment system, but massive radioactive waste feared, …Read More
127 comments
Sarcophagus to be built over reactor; TEPCO not sure if it will limit radiation emissions — Concrete structure around reactors will take several years

Dogman
17th June 2011, 03:06 PM
Some of this is in other threads.


Bad combination: Floodplains, nuclear materials and understated risk


By Bob Criss, special to the Beacon Posted 7:00 am Fri., 6.17.11 It's only June but one thing is certain: 2011 is another extraordinary flood year. The record high water levels just experienced on the Mississippi from Cairo to Baton Rouge will soon be joined by new record levels on the Missouri River at numerous sites above Kansas City. The vagaries of rainfall delivery will dictate how bad things will become and how far downstream serious problems will propagate, but indications are that many dozens of levees will fail, either by overtopping, under-seepage or simply because they will be water saturated for long periods of time.
How is it that this extraordinary flood year came so soon after the extraordinary flood year of 2008, which came so soon after the extraordinary flood years of 2001, 1995 and 1993? The explanation is that damaging episodes of high water are no longer statistically extraordinary, but rather represent the new norm. Describing these events as "50-year," "100-year" or "500-year" floods grossly mischaracterizes what's happening.
Understated flood risk is not an academic matter. Faulty risk calculations are used by FEMA to set flood insurance rates that are too low and to define flood zones that are too narrow.
Understated risk promotes development projects that place property and lives in hazardous areas. Ironically these same developments encroach on rivers and floodplains in a way that amplifies flood frequency and increases floodwater levels. At the same time, valuable farmland is destroyed, habitat is eliminated and surface water and ground water resources are degraded.
In cases where floodplain development projects are encouraged by TIFs and other inappropriate financial inducements, tax revenues can actually go down, even as municipal responsibilities to provide services such as police and fire protection go up.




http://www.stlbeacon.org/images/stories/news_issues/metro/westlake300bobcriss.jpg


Photo by Bob Criss
The West Lake landfill








Counterproductive enough? Not for some. Now combine the high and progressively increasing likelihood of flooding with the placement of nuclear materials in floodplains. Let's examine two examples.
Incredibly, large volumes of the oldest radioactive waste materials of the Atomic Age were dumped at West Lake landfill in Bridgeton in 1973. From every conceivable viewpoint, the situation is deplorable. Radwaste does not belong in the most populous county in Missouri, near the Missouri River, upstream of several water intakes and within 1.5 miles of Interstates 70 and 270.
This site has high risk factors for flooding and is underlain by soils that have high potential to undergo liquefaction during seismic shaking. USGS maps indicate that the potential for strong shaking is significant in this area, so the possibility for slumping of the landfill or the protective levee is significant, particularly during flood years when shallow sediments become saturated. Moreover, the landfill does not have a clay liner or any other protective barrier, nor does it have the leachate collection and drainage systems that are standard in modern landfills.
The landfill is not capped, so wind erosion and rainwater penetration can disseminate radwaste. Historical slumping of the landfill has already spread radwaste over adjacent fields. The waste has not been adequately characterized, but enough is known to establish that its level of radioactivity will increase approximately tenfold over time. This can occur because the systematic decay of the radionuclides produces several additional short-lived "daughter" radioisotopes that will cause the radioactivity of this waste to grow for thousands of years. Few things are as absurd as burying such waste in a substandard landfill in a floodplain in a populous area.
As another example, two nuclear power plants in Nebraska have been constructed in the Missouri River floodplain where new records for flood levels are expected to be set this June. The Fort Calhoun Nuclear Plant has been recently sandbagged, only a year after the plant was cited for having inadequate flood protection. Floodwaters are already adjacent to several of the buildings, and water levels are projected to increase by at least five feet. Fortunately, the reactor was recently shut down for refueling, but about 300 tons of spent fuel rods have accumulated onsite over the years. Make no mistake; some of the most serious, recent problems and explosions at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant involved spent fuel, not just the active reactors.
Of course, the NRC and power industry promoters routinely assure us that the risk of nuclear accidents is incredibly low, something akin to the probability of being attacked by a shark while riding a ski lift. The historical record provides a more realistic and vastly higher assessment of nuclear risk. More than 2 percent of the world's 440 nuclear power reactors have been irreparably harmed by nuclear accidents during their operating lifetimes - prominent cases are Chernobyl, Three Mile Island and Fukushima.
The bottom line is that understated risk is rampant and the consequences can be economically and environmentally disastrous. Understated risk fosters inappropriate land use in high-risk geologic areas, causing harm that can spread far beyond the boundaries of the offending properties. In contrast, realistic risk calculations and improved economic assessment of construction projects will promote wise land use and resource conservation, while reducing the economic burden caused by flooding or other disasters. Thoughtful stewardship will increase opportunities for research, innovation, enterprise and job creation, and ensure a brighter and more equitable future for all.
Bob Criss is a professor in the department of Earth and Planetary Sciences at Washington University. He is the coauthor of the 2003 book, "At the Confluence: Rivers, Floods, and Water Quality in the St. Louis Region." To reach Voices authors, contact Beacon features and commentary editor Donna Korando (http://www.stlbeacon.org/about/contact-staff/264-Editorial/10-donna-korando).

http://www.stlbeacon.org/voices/in-t...-nuclear-risks (http://www.stlbeacon.org/voices/in-the-news/111003-flooding-raises-nuclear-risks)


Humm !


EPA Signs Record of Decision on West Lake Landfill Superfund Site in Bridgeton, Mo.


Release date: 05/29/2008
Contact Information: Chris Whitley, (913) 551-7394, whitley.christopher@epa.gov





Environmental News

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

(Kansas City, Kan., May 29, 2008 - Installations of a multi-layered engineered cover and a system of new monitoring wells are among a series of key remedial actions that will best serve to protect groundwater resources and human health at the West Lake Landfill Superfund Site in Bridgeton, Mo., according to a plan formally approved today by EPA.

EPA's Record of Decision document (http://www.epa.gov/region07/news_events/legal/pdf/west_lake_landfill_ROD2008.pdf) on the West Lake Landfill site also includes public comments that the Agency received about its preferred remedy, which was presented at three public meetings held June 22, 2006; September 14, 2006; and March 27, 2008.

"We believe it is imperative to move ahead by placing a properly engineered cover on the landfill," EPA Region 7 Administrator John Askew said. "The cover would serve as a stable barrier to minimize future exposure to waste material, as the landfill currently has no such protective cap."

EPA's design process also calls for the installation of a new system of monitoring wells around the site, and for long-term groundwater sampling to occur, with the results of all tests to be made available to the public.

The Agency's next steps for West Lake Landfill will be to work closely with the site's owners and responsible parties as they identify and secure the services of various contractors to develop specific engineering designs, construct the landfill cover, install the monitoring wells, and establish specific schedules and measures for sampling procedures and sharing test results.

http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress...e_landfill_ROD (http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/names/r07_2008-5-29_west_lake_landfill_ROD)

Serpo
17th June 2011, 09:30 PM
TSURUGA, Japan — Three hundred miles southwest of Fukushima, at a nuclear reactor perched on the slopes of this rustic peninsula, engineers are engaged in another precarious struggle.
Multimedia
Interactive Feature
How a Breeder Reactor Works


The New York Times

Monju is 60 miles from Kyoto, a city of 1.5 million people.
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Kosuke Okahara for The New York Times

Miwako Ogiso, part of a Fukui Prefecture group against nuclear power, calls the Monju project “Japan's most dangerous reactor.” It has a history of safety problems and lies on an active fault.

The Monju prototype fast-breeder reactor — a long-troubled national project — has been in a precarious state of shutdown since a 3.3-ton device crashed into the reactor’s inner vessel, cutting off access to the plutonium and uranium fuel rods at its core.

Engineers have tried repeatedly since the accident last August to recover the device, which appears to have gotten stuck. They will make another attempt as early as next week.

But critics warn that the recovery process is fraught with dangers because the plant uses large quantities of liquid sodium, a highly flammable substance, to cool the nuclear fuel.

The Monju reactor, which forms the cornerstone of a national project by resource-poor Japan to reuse and eventually produce nuclear fuel, shows the tensions between the scale of Japan’s nuclear ambitions and the risks.

The plant, a $12 billion project, has a history of safety lapses. It was shuttered for 14 years after a devastating fire in 1995, one of Japan’s most serious nuclear accidents before this year’s crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station. Prefecture and city officials found that the operator had tampered with video images of the fire to hide the scale of the disaster. A top manager at the plant recently committed suicide, on the day that Japan’s atomic energy agency announced that efforts to recover the device would cost almost $21.9 million. And, like several other reactors, Monju lies on an active fault.

Even if the device can be removed, restarting the reactor will be risky, given its safety record and its use of highly toxic plutonium as fuel, said Hideyuki Ban, co-director of the Citizens’ Nuclear Information Center, a watchdog group, and a member of an advisory government committee on Japan’s long-term nuclear energy policy. The plant is 60 miles from Kyoto, a city of 1.5 million people, and the fast-breeder design of the reactor makes it more prone to Chernobyl-type runaway reactions in the case of a severe accident, critics say.

“Let’s say they make this fix, which is very complicated,” Mr. Ban said. “The rest of the reactor remains highly dangerous. And an accident at Monju would have catastrophic consequences beyond what we are seeing at Fukushima.”

Japan badly needs sources of energy. By closing the loop on its nuclear fuel cycle, Japan aims to reuse, recycle and produce fresh fuel for its 54 reactors.

“Monju is a vital national asset,” said Noritomo Narita, a spokesman here in Tsuruga for the reactor’s operator, the government-backed Japan Atomic Energy Agency. “In a country so poor in resources, such as Japan, the efficient use of nuclear fuel is our national policy, and our mission.”

Critics have been fighting the project since its inception in the 1970s. “It’s Japan’s most dangerous reactor,” said Miwako Ogiso, secretary general of the Council of the People of Fukui Prefecture Against Nuclear Power. “It’s Japan’s most nonsensical reactor.”

After promises of safety upgrades, as well as lavish subsidies and public works, the government has wooed local officials into allowing a restart of the reactor. In Fukui, the government had ready allies: with 14 nuclear reactors, it is Japan’s most nuclear-friendly prefecture. (Fukushima, in second place, has 10 reactors.)

Monju was reopened in May 2010, and just three months later, the 3.3-ton fuel relay device fell into the pressure vessel when a loose clutch gave way. In the two decades since the reactor started tests in 1991, the atomic energy agency has managed to generate electricity at the reactor only for one full hour.

In Monju, Japan is pursuing a technology that most countries have long abandoned. Decades ago, a handful of countries, including the United States, started exploring similar programs. But severe technical difficulties, as well as fears about the weapons-grade plutonium that the cycle eventually produces, have led most countries to scrap their programs.

But Japan has remained staunchly committed to the Monju project. The government of Prime Minister Naoto Kan has shielded it from the deep cuts in spending that it has required of other national projects since it came to power in September 2009.

Under a government plan, Japan would use technology developed at Monju to commercialize fast-breeder reactors by 2050.

Mr. Kan has recently hinted at an overhaul of Japan’s nuclear policy, though he has not commented specifically on the fate of the Monju reactor.

The commitment to Monju is rooted in the way Japan has sold its nuclear program to local communities, experts say. In persuading towns and villages to provide land for nuclear power stations, Japan has promised that the spent nuclear fuel — which remains highly radioactive for years — will not be stored permanently on site, but used as fresh fuel for the nuclear fuel cycle.

Giving up on any part of the fuel cycle would mean the government would have to find communities willing to become the final resting ground for the spent fuel.

“Of course, no community would accept that, and suddenly Japan’s entire nuclear program would become unviable,” said Keiji Kobayashi, a retired fast-breeder reactor expert formerly at the Kyoto University Research Reactor Institute.

But the technology comes with risks. Instead of water, which is used in commercial nuclear reactors, the prototype reactor uses 1,600 tons of liquid sodium, a hazardous material that reacts fiercely with water and air, to cool its fuel. The presence of an estimated 1.4 tons of highly toxic plutonium fuel at the reactor makes it more dangerous than light-water reactors, which use mainly uranium fuel, critics charge.

Meanwhile, other parts of Japan’s nuclear fuel cycle are also unraveling. The full opening of a nuclear fuel reprocessing plant in the village of Rokkasho, in Aomori Prefecture, has been delayed countless times, with more than $20 billion invested in the project.

Still, work continues to restart the Monju plant. In October, engineers used a crane to try to lift up the device, adding about 220 pounds of force a time. After 24 attempts, they gave up, fearful of the strains on the entire reactor.

Since mid-May, workers have been prepping for a different strategy, clearing the reactor’s lid of various instruments. As early as next week, workers will try to remove the device by dismantling a part of the vessel’s lid with it.

Workers face other dangers in fixing the plant. The reactor contains argon gas, which helps keep the sodium from burning but is a dangerous asphyxiant in confined spaces. And should the device fall farther into the reactor vessel, the damage could be substantial.

The atomic energy agency hopes the extraction will be complete by the end of the month. The agency says it will conduct extensive safety checks, and bolster its earthquake and tsunami defenses, before the reactor is eventually restarted.

“The device will definitely come out this time,” said Toshikazu Takeda, director at the University of Fukui Research Institute of Nuclear Engineering, and head of a government panel that approved the latest repair plans. He said that engineers had recreated removal procedures at a lab and perfected their handling of the crane that will lift the device from the reactor vessel.

Once removed, the device will be checked thoroughly for missing parts or damage, he said. The liquid sodium coolant, heated to almost 400 degrees Fahrenheit, makes it impossible to check fully for any damage the device may have caused to the reactor vessel, however.

Still, Mr. Takeda said he hoped to see Monju complete safety checks and prepare for a restart within a year.

“Japan needs the nuclear fuel cycle,” he said, because supplies of fuels will not last forever. “Uranium will last less than a hundred years. Plutonium will last over a thousand.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/18/world/asia/18japan.html?_r=3&pagewanted=all

oldmansmith
18th June 2011, 04:57 PM
Damn, you just can't make this shit up

Nuclear power will be so cheap you won't need a meter on your house! You can bet on it baby!

$12 Billion for one hour of power is one SWEET deal!

osoab
18th June 2011, 06:23 PM
This is a messed up vid. The steam column starts about 1 minute in and then envelopes the whole area. I guess a lot of people were claiming this was fog. I would guess they were told that by the Japanese government.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBuq-PFaIXQ

Check out this vid from GLP. The poster tweaked the lighting or something like that. Definitely more dramatic.


http://video.godlikeproductions.com/video/Fuku_Color?id=784495d4ccf5057d2b2

Here is the thread. With the makers comments.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1533209/pg1

beefsteak
18th June 2011, 09:01 PM
THANKS, OSOAB! NICE FIND! That was an amazing piece of film footage. WOW!

beefsteak

beefsteak
18th June 2011, 09:42 PM
Ever since Nuke Eng. Arnie Gunderson (Fairewinds) brought up the "hot particle" or the "fuel fleas" as they are known in the nuke industry vernacular, this image below--to which he specifically referred and was flashed upon the monitor--has triggered interest and more research and reaction. Most of us are not on Mamboni's MD level, nor Neuro's medical education level --not sure if you're an MD or not, Neuro, sorry. I'm sure not even close to being a medical professional.

However, I wanted to collate 2 sources of commentary...

1) the actual 1982 Ape Lung Photo with its caption attached.
2) a direct quote from Gunderson as A.G. referred to this photo in a recent audio program soundbyte. (url below)



“Hot” or radioactive particle in lung tissue”

photo by Del Tredici, Burdens of Proof by Tim Connor, Energy Research Foundation (1997)


This is a photo of a “hot particle”, in this case a 1 micron particle of plutonium,
and shows the alpha tracks emitted from that particle in one year.


http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/Hot-Particle-Lung-Tissue1997.jpg
Plutonium in Lung Tissue: The dark, star-like image in this photograph (magnified 500 times) shows tracks from alpha particles radiating from a speck of plutonium lodged in the lung tissue of an ape.
Alpha radiation from plutonium and other alpha-emitting radionuclides can be blocked by skin or even a piece of paper but it is the most biologically destructive form of ionizing radiation when the alpha-emitting substance is deposited in the soft tissue of internal organs like the lung.
The alpha tracks shown above were captured over a two-day period. Lawrence Radiation Laboratory, Berkeley California, September 1982.



Arnie G.'s comments:
[Particle] Lodged in the GI tract. 1 micron in size. Has a positive charge so it "sticks" creating constant irritation in the lungs and GI tract.

Said constant irritation results in COPD or Cancer...http://www.radio4all.net/files/theknightreport@gmail.com/3862-1-Fort_Calhoun_-_Arnie_Gunderson_with_Robert_Knight_-_WBAI_Five_OClock_Shadow.mp3


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COPD? Good Grief!!!

Like y'all, I've seen those advertisements for Advair (fluticasone/salmeterol) inhalers, etc.



ALLERGY AND ASTHMA IN THE SOUTHWESTERN UNITED STATES http://allergy.peds.arizona.edu/southwest/devices/inhalers-asthma/images/Advair4.jpghttp://allergy.peds.arizona.edu/southwest/devices/inhalers-asthma/images/Advair6.jpghttp://allergy.peds.arizona.edu/southwest/devices/inhalers-asthma/images/Advair7.jpgAdvair - fluticasone 100 mcg and salmeterol 50 mcg (green label), fluticasone 250 mcg and salmeterol 50 mcg (yellow label, fluticasone 500 mcg and salmeterol 50 mcg (red label)

http://allergy.peds.arizona.edu/images/ahsclogo.jpg



But I sure never had the slightest idea these purple, round inhalers were at least in part-- big Pharma's response to mitigate POST radiation poisoning in some users who may have diagnosed COPD-- due to plutonium radiation poisoning-- since the Above Ground Nevada Atomic Testing back in the 60s, releasing all those skyborne irritants? ? ? Don't ever recall hearing "them" talk about that.

Seems that someone raised the question on GS-US earlier as to whether Big Pharma was going to benefit (come up with a "solution") from this latest round of Nuke poisoning ala Fukushima (problem created.)

According to Gunderson, that is a resounding yes.

I'm appalled! AGAIN!!!

No wonder we have been discussing CELLULAR responses such as Vit C dosages (See Mamboni's recent iteration of his personal Vit C protocol and its aegis. http://gold-silver.us/forum/report.php?p=424242 ), French Green Clay, Glutathione enhancement, and other thinking human responses to cellular repair ourselves and our village neighbors affected by this horrific event. The Petkau effect of LLRadiation damage not just seen on "the west coast USA" but elsewhere on the planet.


beefsteak

PS:
Note the copy/paste image from Arizona University chapter title where said image was extracted from. It is
"ALLERGY AND ASTHMA ...........in SOUTHWESTERN UNITED STATES!" That's where Nevada is if memory serves, yes? Sorry, but I don't believe in coincidences. You?

lapis
19th June 2011, 09:02 AM
Like y'all, I've seen those advertisements for Advair (fluticasone/salmeterol) inhalers, etc.

Seems that someone raised the question on GS-US earlier as to whether Big Pharma was going to benefit (come up with a "solution") from this latest round of Nuke poisoning ala Fukushima (problem created.)

According to Gunderson, that is a resounding yes.

Well of course! And paraphrasing French writer and medical doctor L.F. Céline (side note: his brilliant dark humor fiction is often discredited because he wrote anti-semitic pamphlets), "any man who takes money from a sick person is a scoundrel for the rest of his days."



No wonder we have been discussing CELLULAR responses such as Vit C dosages (See Mamboni's recent iteration of his personal Vit C protocol and its aegis. http://gold-silver.us/forum/report.php?p=424242 ), French Green Clay, Glutathione enhancement, and other thinking human responses to cellular repair ourselves and our village neighbors affected by this horrific event.

I've had to add Kava root extract to my protocol, because otherwise I wake up in the middle of the night feeling anxious and can't go back to sleep. Taking this helps me stay asleep, and I wake up feeling refreshed, not groggy (like I do after taking melatonin).

Book
19th June 2011, 09:10 AM
...because otherwise I wake up in the middle of the night feeling anxious and can't go back to sleep.



http://www.korpg.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/monster_under_bed.jpg

;)

lapis
19th June 2011, 09:24 AM
Haha! Substitute the blond hair with dark pigtails, and that would be me circa 1972. I guess some things haven't changed.

beefsteak
19th June 2011, 09:31 AM
Google phrase: minke whale IMAGE for multiple images of the type of whale dissected and discovered to be radioactive, as revealed by the following news source, Japan Today.
http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/radioactive-cesium-detected-in-2-whales



Cesium detected in two whales caught off Hokkaido

National (http://www.japantoday.com/category/national) Jun. 15, 2011 - 05:59AM JST
KUSHIRO —
Radioactive cesium was detected in two minke whales caught off the coast of Kushiro, Hokkaido, Japan, a whalers’ association said Tuesday, June 13, 2011.

While the level of the radioactive material remained below the temporarily set upper limit, the association officials said during a press conference in Kushiro that the contamination must have been caused by the continuing nuclear crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant and that they will closely monitor future developments. =======================

OBSERVATION:
A similar article goes on to say this was one of 2 CESIUM RADIOACTIVE whales of the 17 caught and tested "research whales." {{Thank God SOMEONE is testing marine life. Here's hoping they are "permitted" to still get their findings reported in the public press.}}

It should be noted that Minke Whales are primarily a Northern Pacific, Northern Atlantic, and Southern Atlantic Whale, with some population in the Antarctic waters, according to wiki.
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Breitbart reports this story with additional facts:

KUSHIRO, Japan, June 14 (AP) - (Kyodo)—Radioactive cesium was detected from two minke whales caught off the coast of Kushiro, Hokkaido, in Japan's so-called research whaling, a whalers' association said Tuesday. While the level of the radioactive material remained below the temporarily set upper limit, the association officials said during a press conference in Kushiro that the contamination must have been caused by the continuing nuclear crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant and that they will closely monitor future developments.

During the research whaling that started in late April, 17 whales were caught, and researchers examined six of them. Of the six, two were found tainted with 31 becquerels and 24.3 becquerels of cesium per kilogram of whale meat, they said.

The upper limit tentatively stands at 500 becquerels per kilogram.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9NRIS780&show_article=1
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OBSERVATION:

Wonder what the "old radiation/Cesium limits" were........
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A third source, quoting from DPA--a German news source, offers this version of the radioactive whales' research story:




Report: Radiation found in whales in Japan 14.06.2011 17:52

Radioactive caesium was detected from two minke whales caught off a city on the northern Japanese island of Hokkaido, 650 kilometres north-east of a damaged nuclear plant, a news report said Tuesday.

Researchers examined six of the 17 whales during so-called research whaling in Kushiro city, which started this year's season in late April, and they detected 31 becquerels and 24.3 becquerels of radioactive caesium per kilogram in the two whales out of the six, Kyodo News reported citing a whalers' association said, DPA (http://www.dpa.com/) reported.

While the level of the radioactive substances remained below the limit of 500 becquerels per kilogram, the association officials told a news conference in the city that the contamination must have been caused by the ongoing crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, Kyodo reported.

Since the plant was damaged by a magnitude-9 earthquake and ensuing tsunami on March 11, it has leaked radioactive substances into the environment.

In 1987, Japan halted commercial whaling, complying with an international moratorium that went into effect in 1986. Japan, however, has used a loophole in the accord to continue whaling under the premise of conducting scientific research.
http://en.trend.az/regions/world/ocountries/1891524.html
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OBSERVATION:

650 kilometers north of a Northern Japanese Island named Hokkaido. Kind of makes one wonder where all these whales have swum, yes?

So, 2 of 17 with radioactive Cesium in them (didn't mention which isotope(s)....) ....that's a 12% (rounded up) contamination discovery.
Noted only 2 of 6 of 17 were reported tested. THAT raises the percentages from this statistically insignificant sampling to 33% contaminated by detectable Cesium.
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CFS standards:

Hong Kong Centre for Food Safety (CFS) reveals Codex Alimentarius international radioactive guidelines for 2 radioactive isotopes found in food:



What are the criteria adopted at present in testing the level of radioactive contamination in Japanese food products, and the measures to be adopted when some food products are found to have a level of radioactive contamination exceeding the normal standard?

CFS currently adopts the standards laid down by the Codex Alimentarius Commission, which are international standards, in the Guidelines Levels for Radionuclides in Food following Accidental Nuclear Contamination in testing the radiation levels of food. Relevant radionuclides include:

iodine-131 (100 Bq/kg),

caesium-134 and caesium-137 (1,000 Bq/kg), etc, which are most closely associated with health risks.


If a consignment of food is tested to have exceeded the contamination standard, the Food and Environmental Hygiene Department will immediately detain that consignment and arrange for disposal.
http://www.cfs.gov.hk/english/programme/programme_rafs/programme_rafs_fc_01_30_Q&A_3.html
beefsteak

Serpo
19th June 2011, 11:44 AM
Published on Thursday, June 16, 2011 by CommonDreams.org
The Big Fukushima Lie Flies High
by Karl Grossman

The global nuclear industry and its allies in government are making a desperate effort to cover up the consequences of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster. “The big lie flies high,” comments Kevin Kamps of the organization Beyond Nuclear.

Not only is this nuclear establishment seeking to make it look like the Fukushima catastrophe has not happened going so far as to claim that there will be “no health effects” as a result of it but it is moving forward on a “nuclear renaissance,” its scheme to build more nuclear plants.


Indeed, next week in Washington, a two-day “Special Summit on New Nuclear Energy” will be held involving major manufacturers of nuclear power plants including General Electric, the manufacturer of the Fukushima plantsand U.S. government officials.

Although since Fukushima, Germany, Switzerland and Italy and other nations have turned away from nuclear power for a commitment instead to safe, clean, renewable energy such as solar and wind, the Obama administration is continuing its insistence on nuclear power.

Will the nuclear establishment be able to get away with telling what, indeed, would be one of the most outrageous Big Lies of all time that no one will die as a result of Fukushima?

Will it be able to continue its new nuclear push despite the catastrophe?

Nearly 100 days after the Fukushima disaster began, with radiation still streaming from the plants, with its owners, TEPCO, now admitting that meltdowns did occur at its plants, that releases have been twice as much as it announced earlier, with deadly radioactivity from Fukushima spreading worldwide, and with some countries now changing course and saying no to nuclear power, while others stick with it, a nuclear crossroads has arrived.

No health effects are expected among the Japanese people as a result of the events at Fukushima,” the Nuclear Energy Institute, the nuclear industry trade group, flatly declared in a statement issued at a press conference in Washington last week.

"They’re lying,” says Dr. Janette Sherman, a toxicologist and contributing editor of the book Chernobyl: The Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment” published by the New York Academy of Sciences in 2009. Using medical data from between 1986 and 2004, its authors, a team of European scientists, determines that 985,000 people died worldwide from the radioactivity discharged from the 1986 Chernobyl disaster.

The Fukushima disaster will have a comparable toll, expects Dr. Sherman, who has conducted research into the consequences of radiation for decades. “People living closest to the plants who receive the biggest doses will get sick sooner. Those who are farther away and receive lesser doses will get sick at a slower rate,” she says.

We’ve known about radioactive isotopes for decades,” says Dr. Sherman. “I worked for the Atomic Energy Commission in the 1950s and we knew about the effects then. To ignore the biology is to our peril. This is not new science. Cesium-137 goes to soft tissue. Strontium-90 goes to the bones and teeth. Iodine-131 goes to the thyroid gland.” All have been released in large amounts in the Fukushima disaster since it began on March 11. There will inevitably be cancer and other illnessesas well as genetic effectsas a result of the substantial discharges of radioactivity released from Fukushima, says Dr. Sherman. “People in Japan will be the most impacted but the radiation has been spreading worldwide and will impact life worldwide.”

The American Nuclear Society, made up of what its website says are “professionals” in the nuclear field, is also deep in the Fukushima denial camp. “Radiation risks to people living in Japan are very low, and no public ill effects are expected from the Fukushima incident,” it declares on its website. As to the U.S., the Illinois-based organization adds: “There is no health risk of radiation from the Fukushima incident to people in the United States.”

Acknowledging that “radiation from Fukushima has been detected within the United States,” the American Nuclear Society asserts that’s because we are able to detect very small amounts of radiation. Through the use of extremely sensitive equipment, U.S. laboratories have been able to detect very minute quantities of radioactive isotopes in air, precipitation, milk, and drinking water due to the Fukushima incident…The radiation from Fukushima, though detectable, is nowhere near the level of public health concern.”

Says Joseph Mangano, executive director of the Radiation and Public Health Project, “The absurd belief that no one will be harmed by Fukushima is perhaps the strongest evidence of the pattern of deception and denial by nuclear officials in industry and government.”

The World Health Organization has added its voice to the denial group. “For anyone outside Japan there is currently no health risk from radiation leaking from the nuclear power plant,” Gregory Hartl, a WHO spokesman, has insisted. “We know that there have been measurements in maybe up to about 30 countries [and] these measurements are miniscule, often below levels of background radiation…and they do not constitute a public health risk.”

WHO, not too incidentally, has a formal arrangement with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), in place since both were established at the UN in the 1950s, to say nothing about issues involving radiation without clearing it with the IAEA, which was set up to specifically promote atomic energy. On Chernobyl, together in an initiative called the “Chernobyl Forum,” they have claimed that “less than 50 deaths have been directly attributed” to that disaster and “a total of up to 4,000 people could eventually die of radiation exposure from the Chernobyl nuclear power plant accident.” That nuclear Big Lie precedes the new nuclear deception involving the impacts of Fukushima.

As to background radiation, Dr. Jeffrey Patterson, immediate past president of Physicians for Social Responsibility and professor emeritus at the University of Wisconsin’s School of Public Health, says: “We do live with background radiationbut it does cause cancer.” That’s why there is concern, he notes, about radon gas being emitted in homes from a breakdown of uranium in some soils. “That’s background [radiation] but it’s not safe. There are absolutely no safe levels of radiation” and adding more radiation “adds to the health impacts.”

There has been a cover-up, a minimization of the effects of radioactivity since the development of nuclear weapons and nuclear technology,” says Dr. Patterson. Meanwhile, with the Fukushima disaster, “large populations of people are being randomly exposed to radiation that they didn’t ask for, they didn’t agree to.”

Dr. Steven Wing, an epidemiologist who has specialized in the effects of radioactivity at the School of Public Health of the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill, said: “The generally accepted thinking about the safe dose is that, no, there is no safe dose in terms of

the cancer or genetic effects of radiation. The assumption of most people is that there’s a linear, no-threshold dose response relationship and that just means that as the dose goes down the risk goes down, but it never disappears.”

Of the claims of “no threat to health” from the radioactivity emitted from Fukushima, that “just flies in the face of all the standard models and all the studies that have been done over a long period of time of radiation and cancer.”

As the radiation clouds move away from Fukushima and move far away to other continents and around the world, the doses are spread out,” notes Dr. Wing. “But it’s important for people to know that spreading out a given amount of radiation dose among more people, although it reduces each person’s individual risk, it doesn’t reduce the number of cancers that result from that amount of radiation. So having millions and millions of people exposed to a very small dose could produce just as much cancer as a thousand or a few thousand people exposed to that same dose.”

He believes “we should be focusing on putting pressure on people in government and the energy industry to come up with an energy policy that minimizes harm,” is a “sane energy policy.” Those who have “led us into this situation” have caused “big problems.”

And they are still at iteven with radioactivity still coming out at Fukushima and expected to for months. On Tuesday and Wednesday in Washington, the “Special Summit on New Nuclear Energy” will be held, organized by the U.S. Nuclear Infrastructure Council.

Council members include General Electric, since 2006 in partnership in its nuclear plant manufacturing business with the Japanese corporation Hitachi.

Other members of the council, notes its information on the summit, include the Nuclear Energy Institute; Babcock & Wilcox, the manufacturer of the Three Mile Island nuclear plant which underwent a partial meltdown in 1979; Duke Energy, a U.S. utility long a booster of nuclear power; the Tennessee Valley Authority, a U.S. government-created public power company heavily committed to nuclear power; Uranium Producers of America; and AREVA, the French government-financed nuclear power company that has been moving to expand into the U.S. and worldwide.

Also participating in the summit as speakers will be John Kelly, an Obama administration Department of Energy deputy assistant for nuclear reactor technologies;

William Magwood, a nuclear power advocate who is a member of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission; Matthew Milazzo representing an entity called the Blue Ribbon Commission on America’s Nuclear Future set up by the Obama administration; and Congressmen Mike Simpson of Idaho, chairman of the House Appropriations Subcommittee Interior & Environment and Ed Whitfield of Kentucky, chairman of the House Energy & Power Subcommittee, both staunch nuclear power supporters.

Other participants, according to the program for the event, will be “senior executives and thought leaders from the who’s who of the U.S. new nuclear community.” Bruce Llewelyn, who hosts “White House Chronicle” on PBS television, is listed as the summit’s “moderator.”

There will be programs on the “State of the Renaissance,” “China, India & Emerging Global Nuclear Markets,” “Advancing Nuclear Technology” and “Lessons from Fukushima.”

As the nuclear Pinocchios lie, the nuclear promoters push ahead.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/06/16-4

Serpo
19th June 2011, 12:15 PM
The World Health Organization has added its voice to the denial group. “For anyone outside Japan there is currently no health risk from radiation leaking from the nuclear power plant,” Gregory Hartl, a WHO spokesman, has insisted............quote from previous article.......here is proof that the WHO are a bunch of untrustworthy lying cowards.





check out this scary story at the link.......


http://www.rense.com/general94/mag.htm

Spectrism
19th June 2011, 02:54 PM
The World Health Organization has added its voice to the denial group. “For anyone outside Japan there is currently no health risk from radiation leaking from the nuclear power plant,” Gregory Hartl, a WHO spokesman, has insisted............quote from previous article.......here is proof that the WHO are a bunch of untrustworthy lying cowards.

check out this scary story at the link.......


http://www.rense.com/general94/mag.htm

I think we should feed that bastard some of the "safe" sea food. In fact, have a sushi party for all the WHO and invite all diplomats, UN scum, banksters and council on foreign relations members.

beefsteak
19th June 2011, 03:59 PM
+1, Spectrism.

Hope AMAZON has keyman insurance on Jeff Bezos. He's a Bilderberger who would end up with a sushi indigestion of the 1st order.


beefsteak

beefsteak
19th June 2011, 04:19 PM
Another radioactive fish comment, this time by Nuke Eng. Arnie Gunderson in his radio interview on Ft Calhoun with Robert Knight:

Min/Sec mark on audio:

30:22; ....radioactive fish south of Fuku., as far south as Hong Kong"

http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/52367
http://www.radio4all.net/files/theknightreport@gmail.com/3862-1-Fort_Calhoun_-_Arnie_Gunderson_with_Robert_Knight_-_WBAI_Five_OClock_Shadow.mp3

gunDriller
19th June 2011, 06:39 PM
+1, Spectrism.

Hope AMAZON has keyman insurance on Jeff Bezos. He's a Bilderberger who would end up with a sushi indigestion of the 1st order.
beefsteak

there is a puffer fish named "Fugu".

that would be a classic for the Bilderberg menu.

a steaming plate of "Fuku Fugu" for Henry Kissinger.

beefsteak
20th June 2011, 12:13 AM
Japan pumps water into reactor to contain radioactivity

Jun 20, 2011, 2:33 GMT
Tokyo - Japanese authorities pumped water into a damaged nuclear reactor over the weekend to contain high radiation, news reports said Monday June 20.

Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO), which runs the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station, started Sunday to pour water into a pool on the top floor of reactor 4 of the six-reactor plant after it discovered the water level had dropped to about one-third of its capacity, public broadcaster NHK reported.

The drop caused equipment in the pool to be exposed, releasing high levels of radiation, officials said.

The plant has been leaking radioactive substances since it was crippled by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami.

The radiation levels at reactor 4 have been preventing workers from entering the structure to conduct repairs.

TEPCO also began late Sunday to release air containing radioactive substances from the building of reactor 2 by opening its doors.

An estimated 1.6 billion becquerels of radioactive materials were released, compared with 500 million becquerels when the double doors of the building of reactor 1 were opened in May, the Jiji Press agency reported, citing TEPCO.

The operator denied that the releases would have an impact on the environment.

The move was aimed at lowering the 99-per-cent humidity inside the reactors, which was further hindering repair work.

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asiapacific/news/article_1646404.php/Japan-pumps-water-into-reactor-to-contain-radioactivity

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OBSERVATION:

What's a billion six hundred million more Becquerels amongst global villagers? ? ? So now reactors 1 and 2 have now had their doors opened. For repairs?

I thought they stated they were building air filtration devices on #2 before opening #2's doors! No mention of the "filtration devices" in this story...at least not this version of "the news...."


beefsteak

beefsteak
20th June 2011, 12:31 AM
Googling shows the following among the proferred links:

Nebraska utilities drafting plan to help Japan with nuclear disaster (http://m.journalstar.com/mobile/article_0a14397d-38fd-5f59-af35-e1bd534598c1.html)

Mar 15, 2011 ... Cooper Nuclear Station has a General Electric Type 4 boiling water reactor, which is similar in design to the disabled reactors in Japan. ...

http://m.journalstar.com/.../article_0a14397d-38fd-5f59-af35-e1bd534598c1.html

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OBSERVATION:

This just keeps getting better....especially since the Ft. Calhoun is designed for a 500 year flood plan; COOPER NPP is designed for a 100 year flood plan, and that design is for flooding at the 40'6" mark.

Re-licensed for another 20 years in November 2010, research shows this boiling water reactor was built in 1974.

News service talking about the newly issued flood alert report-- which has mobilized NRC this weekend to the physical site of COOPER NPP-- is not currently referring to this 2nd potentially flooding BWR facility by name. Researching private blogs revealed it.


beefsteak

gunDriller
20th June 2011, 05:49 AM
Googling shows the following among the proferred links:

Nebraska utilities drafting plan to help Japan with nuclear disaster (http://m.journalstar.com/mobile/article_0a14397d-38fd-5f59-af35-e1bd534598c1.html)

Mar 15, 2011 ... Cooper Nuclear Station has a General Electric Type 4 boiling water reactor, which is similar in design to the disabled reactors in Japan. ...

http://m.journalstar.com/.../article_0a14397d-38fd-5f59-af35-e1bd534598c1.html

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OBSERVATION:

This just keeps getting better....especially since the Ft. Calhoun is designed for a 500 year flood plan; COOPER NPP is designed for a 100 year flood plan, and that design is for flooding at the 40'6" mark.

Re-licensed for another 20 years in November 2010, research shows this boiling water reactor was built in 1974.

News service talking about the newly issued flood alert report-- which has mobilized NRC this weekend to the physical site of COOPER NPP-- is not currently referring to this 2nd potentially flooding BWR facility by name. Researching private blogs revealed it.


beefsteak


this has all the makings of a disaster movie.

i wouldn't be surprised if in 20 or 50 years, this series of incidents - Fukushima, Calhoun, BP Gulf - gets re-visited in film form.

maybe in 50 years TPTB will be ready to tell the truth about it.

beefsteak
20th June 2011, 06:11 AM
Hi, Gunny,
You could be right about the movie schtick on the come. Sick, huh.

My question is who will be left to watch it? Surely not those who are currently living through it. And the sheeple will continue to deny until it is on the marquee, yes? The thought of paying even matinee prices for such a flick is disgusting.

beefsteak
20th June 2011, 06:33 AM
Cooper NPP in Nebraska is under Tornado Warnings, and Flash Flood Warnings and Overtopped levee Warnings, .... our own little Fuku right in America's Heartland....THANK YOU HAARP. *sarc*



Tornado watch near Ft. Calhoun nuke plant, flash flood warning near Cooper nuke plant — Heavy rain making flooding situation worse


June 20th, 2011 at 03:18 AM


Flash Flood Warning, Tornado Watch (http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/Rain_Showers_This_Morning_124128519.html), Associated Press, June 19, 2011:
Heavy rain making flooding situation worse
A flash flood warning is in effect until 4:30 a.m. Monday for northeastern Otoe County in Nebraska and southern Fremont County and southern Page County in Iowa. A tornado watch is in effect until 4 a.m. for southeast Nebraska and southwest Iowa, including Omaha, Council Bluffs and Lincoln. [...]
http://enenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/sdffsdfds1.jpg (http://enenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/sdffsdfds1.jpg)
http://enenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/dfggd.jpg (http://enenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/dfggd.jpg)
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Several levees failing along Missouri River, officials bracing for more breaches — Flooding alert issued for a second nuclear plant --Cooper NPP



June 20th, 2011 at 01:05 AM
Levees in northern Missouri breached (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-0620-missouri-river-flooding-20110620,0,7012100.story), Associated Press, June 20, 2011:
Several levees in northern Missouri [Holt and Atchison counties] were failing to hold back the surge of water being released from upstream dams, and officials and residents braced themselves Sunday for more breaches as the Missouri River dipped but then rose again.


A hole in the side of a Holt County levee continued to grow, deluging the state park and recreational area in Big Lake, a community of about 200 people located 78 miles north of Kansas City. [...]


In Nebraska, a flooding alert was issued for a second nuclear power plant [...]


[Jud Kneuvean, chief of emergency management for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers' Kansas City district] said whenever a levee was being overtopped to the extent occurring in Atchison County, the best-case scenario was that it would stay intact for 12 hours. After that, he said, “all bets are off.”



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Water level rose almost 3 feet during weekend at Brownville gauge near Cooper nuke plant


June 20th, 2011 at 08:45 AM
River inches toward nuke plant shutdown level (http://journalstar.com/news/local/article_fa4d05ec-8cb3-51ae-9124-4c9bcb5155ef.html), Journal Star, June 19, 2011:
“Our guys were reporting it was leveling off,” Mark Becker, spokesman for Nebraska Public Power District, said Sunday afternoon. But after he commented, the level rose another half foot. [...]


NPPD, which owns and operates the Cooper power plant, said the “notification of unusual event” it declared was made as part of emergency preparedness procedures the station follows when flooding occurs. [...]


Water levels at the Brownville gauge increased approximately two feet in a 24-hour period from 5:30 a.m. Saturday to 5:30 a.m. Sunday.
By Sunday morning, the river stage at Brownville had reached 44.4 feet, surpassing the previous record crest of 44.3 feet set in 1993 flooding. By 3 p.m., the Brownville gauge was at 44.7 feet, the equivalent of 901.2 feet above sea level. Three hours later, the level had risen another half foot. [...]


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OBSERVATION:

Sounds like more government talk to me. Last night, flooding was going to be declared at plant design level of
40'6"

Today? 44'

Tomorrow?

PUT COOPER INTO COLD SHUTDOWN ALREADY! Even then you all are dancing with the devil you know. Cold Shutdown doesn't happen instantly. And the pumps and
fuel and muddy Missouri don't work any better in Missouri water than they do in Oceanic Salt Water. What part of
Water and Electricity don't mix didn't they learn from Fukushima?

Oh, that's right....Fukushima didn't really happen. It's a movie set in Burbank. APRIL FOOLS!!!!!!!! *sarc*

beefsteak
20th June 2011, 06:54 AM
.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch....

Preventing radiation contamination more important than TEPCO's stock prices

http://mdn.mainichi.jp/perspectives/column/archive/news/2011/06/images/20110620p2g00m0dm001000p_size5.jpg In this June 1, 2011 file photo released by Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO), workers inspect equipment inside the cesium absorption tower, part of the radioactive water processing facilities at the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant in Okuma, Fukushima Prefecture. (AP Photo/TEPCO)

Some people have suggested that I start to write about something other than nuclear power plants, but with the situation as it is, that's not going to happen. The crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant is still not over. Far from it, there are signs that it is getting worse. I can't stand by and look at the political situation without focusing on this serious event.

One figure who has entered the public spotlight in the wake of the nuclear crisis is 61-year-old Hiroaki Koide, an assistant professor at the Kyoto University Research Reactor Institute and a controversialist in the anti-nuclear debate. A specialist in nuclear power, Koide has garnered attention as a persistent researcher who has sounded the alarm over the dangers of this form of energy without seeking fame.

In a TV Asahi program on June 16, Koide made the following comment:

"As far as I can tell from the announcements made by Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO), the nuclear fuel that has melted down inside reactors at the Fukushima nuclear plant has gone through the bottom of the containers, which are like pressure cookers, and is lying on the concrete foundations, sinking into the ground below. We have to install a barrier deep in the soil and build a subterranean dam as soon as possible to prevent groundwater contaminated with radioactive materials from leaking into the ocean." His comment captured public interest and when I asked a high-ranking government official about it, the official said that construction of an underground dam was indeed being prepared. But when I probed further, I found that the project was in limbo due to opposition from TEPCO.

Sumio Mabuchi, an aide to Prime Minister Naoto Kan who is dealing with nuclear power plant issues, holds the same concerns as those expressed by Koide and has sought an announcement on construction of an underground dam, but TEPCO has resisted such a move.

The reason is funding. It would cost about 100 billion yen to build such a dam, but there is no guarantee that the government would cover the amount. If an announcement were made and TEPCO were seen as incurring more liabilities, then its shares would fall once again, and the company might not be able to make it through its next general shareholders' meeting.

In my possession, I have a copy of the guidelines that TEPCO presented to the government on how to handle press releases. The title of the document, dated June 13, is "Underground boundary' -- Regarding the press." It is split into five categories on how to handle the announcement of construction of an underground boundary. In essence, it says,
"We are considering the issue under the guidance of prime ministerial aide Mabuchi, but we don't want to be seen as having excess liabilities, so we're keeping the details confidential." Possibly the silliest response to envisaged questions from reporters is TEPCO's suggestion for a reply to the question, "Why hasn't construction been quickly started?" The response reads: "Underground water flows at a speed of about 5 to 10 centimeters a day, so we have more than a year before it reaches the shore."

Initially an announcement on the underground barrier was due to be made to the press on June 14, but it was put off until after TEPCO's general shareholders meeting on June 28.

In the meantime, the state of the nuclear power plant continues to deteriorate and radioactive materials are eerily spreading and contaminating the area around the plant.

Which is more important: upholding share prices or stopping pollution? The Japanese political and business world has sunk to a level where it can't even answer such a question.

One government official recently commented, "I think I can understand now why the leaders during the war couldn't precisely and steadily accomplish their strategies."

Today, announcements from the "imperial headquarters" -- namely TEPCO's releases on its roadmap for bringing the nuclear crisis under control, which nobody believes -- are still being issued.

Some people have compared Kan to former Japanese Prime Minister Hideki Tojo, because he yells at his subordinates over the smallest details. Tojo resigned in July 1944, after the fall of Saipan, when it had become likely that Japan would lose the war. His successor, Kuniaki Koiso, was in office for 8 1/2 months before being replaced by Kantaro Suzuki. After this, two atomic bombs were dropped on Japan and then the war ended after a decision from the Emperor.

Why wasn't an armistice quickly implemented to put an end to further wartime damage? It was because impossible solutions to Japan's situation in the war were flying about, common sense was lost, and the government was slow to reach a decision. Yet the same sort of situation has arisen today.

The most important issue now is preventing contamination from radiation. We need leaders who can focus on the core issue without being swayed by empty theory.

By Takao Yamada, Expert Senior Writer


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MNeagle
20th June 2011, 07:19 AM
Two concerns:

1.) Japanese tradition of 'saving face'/'honor'. See this entire thread of denial/delays.

2.) Stutnex (sp?) worm/issue. Can it truly be overcome?

They have to try, & I see little evidence of them trying. Just posturing.

beefsteak
20th June 2011, 07:40 PM
Thought of you today, MNEagle, when I read about the Tritium polluted drinking water in Minnesota and Illinois wells. Had you heard of this before? Tritium is radioactive Hydrogen about which not much has been said before. Any commentary? Anyone?


beefsteak

beefsteak
20th June 2011, 07:48 PM
We’ve known about radioactive isotopes for decades,” says Dr. Sherman. “I worked for the Atomic Energy Commission in the 1950s and we knew about the effects then.

To ignore the biology is to our peril. This is not new science. Cesium-137 goes to soft tissue.

Strontium-90 goes to the bones and teeth.

Iodine-131 goes to the thyroid gland.”

Dr. Janette Sherman, MD.
http://janettesherman.com/2011/04/26/dr-sherman-interviewed-on-democracy-now/

Reminded that earlier on this thread, it was revealed by a medical expert that Strontium decays to Yttrium, which is at the base of most all pancreatic cancers and diabetes.



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Just after re-reading before posting the above, I was struck by the decrying of Americans as having "gone soft."

Well, with the help of copious cesium isotope(S)' poisonings since the above ground nuke tests conducted here in SW USA in the 60s, is it any wonder???


beefsteak

beefsteak
20th June 2011, 10:58 PM
Did a little more reading up on Tritium.....a.k.a. radioactive hydrogen.

It is:

*carcinogenic,

**has a half life of 12.3 years,

***resides in soft tissue due to the fact that when it comes in contact with oxygen, it creates titriated water, and the human body is made up over 75% water,

****and excreted from the body in approx. a month.

*****Titrium decays into helium. Yes, the stuff we fill balloons with and make us talk funny if we inhale it and then speak.

75% of US nuke plants are leaking tritium currently acc'd to headlines today.

All the above is courtesy of the EPA vis a vis the link below.
We all know how much we rely on THEM for full disclosure, right? *sarc*

http://www.exeloncorp.com/assets/energy/powerplants/docs/EPA_Fact_Sheet_Tritium.pdf


Now looks like Helium ingested or inhaled needs to be looked into...? Ode t'Joy....another rabbit hole. ::)


beefsteak

beefsteak
21st June 2011, 07:26 AM
An important story out of Japan this morning, w/r/t radiation levels and limits for children. First a background/set-up piece from June 9, 2011 directly below.
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Radiology experts find up to 45 microsieverts/hour near school zone (near Fukushima) — 90 times higher than Chernobyl evacuation threshold
June 9th, 2011 at 03:44 PM


Widen evacuation zone for children, pregnant women: Greenpeace chief (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110610a6.html),

Japan Times, June 10, 2011:
The government should consider evacuating children and pregnant women from a wider area around the Fukushima No. 1 power plant because radiation levels remain high even outside the 20-km no-go zone, Kumi Naidoo, executive director of Greenpeace International, said Thursday in Tokyo.


Naidoo’s team of radiology experts found hot spots that had a maximum hourly reading of 45 microsieverts of radiation alongside a school zone. [...]


Jan Beranek, an expert on radiology from Greenpeace International who joined Naidoo’s trip to Fukushima, recommended that the government widen the evacuation zone to at least 60 or 70 km from the power plant.


He said there were parks and public spaces where the level of radiation activity hit 9 microsieverts per hour.


Even some nursery schools that have already undergone a decontamination process had a relatively high reading of 0.5 microsievert per hour, he said. That would translate into an annual exposure of 5 millisieverts, which was the evacuation threshold for Chernobyl, Beranek said. [...]
http://enenews.com/radiology-experts-find-up-to-45-microsievertshour-near-school-zone-90-times-higher-than-chernobyl-evacuation-threshold (http://%3Cb%3E%3Cfont%20size=%221%22%3Ehttp://enenews.com/radiology-experts-find-up-to-45-microsievertshour-near-school-zone-90-times-higher-than-chernobyl-evacuation-threshold%3C/font%3E%3C/b%3E)

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City near Tokyo sets maximum radiation dose for children — Averages out to .31 microsieverts per hour


June 21st, 2011 at 05:00 AM
City in Saitama Prefecture sets independent maximum radiation dose for children (http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/national/news/20110621p2a00m0na004000c.html),

Mainichi News, June 21, 2011:
KAWAGUCHI, Saitama — The city government here has set the maximum radiation dose for children at 1.64 millisieverts per year, making it the first local government in Japan to implement its own radiation exposure standard.


The tentative figure announced on June 20 is based on:
A ) the International Commission on Radiological Protection (ICRP)’s 1 millisievert recommended maximum exposure to man-made radiation sources,

PLUS
B ) Japan’s average background radiation dose of 0.34
millisieverts,
PLUS
C )and the average 0.3 millisieverts of annual exposure to cosmic radiation.


According to the Kawaguchi city government, the new annual exposure limit breaks down to a maximum hourly dose of 0.31 microsieverts, assuming a child spent eight hours a day outside. [...]
http://enenews.com/city-near-tokyo-sets-maximum-radiation-dose-for-children-average-of-31-microsieverts-per-hour

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City in Saitama Prefecture sets independent maximum radiation dose for children

http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/national/news/images/20110421p2a00m0na015000p_size5.jpg The NNSA hazard map released by the U.S. federal government. The Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant is marked by a white dot at right.



Mainichi News, Japan June 21, 2011


KAWAGUCHI, Saitama -- The tentative figure announced on June 20 is based on the International Commission on Radiological Protection (ICRP)'s 1 millisievert recommended maximum exposure to man-made radiation sources, plus Japan's average background radiation dose of 0.34 millisieverts and the average 0.3 millisieverts of annual exposure to cosmic radiation.

According to the Kawaguchi city government.....officials will take radiation measurements at 10 sites in the city once a week, starting in mid-July. If they find radiation levels at a site have exceeded the new municipal maximum, the city will restrict outdoor activities at surrounding nursery schools, kindergartens, primary and junior high schools to three hours a day.

The Kawaguchi city government has already taken radiation measurements twice at the 10 sites, recording a top hourly dose of 0.16 microsieverts.

The new maximum dosage was set after the city received inquires from worried parents and guardians, asking what they should do about their children should radiation exposure rise.
mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/national/news/20110621p2a00m0na004000c.htm


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As for the last story excerpted above,
that .16 reported level is a confusing statement. If .3 is cosmic radiation,
and .34 is "avg background" radiation, then how do they expect the average reader OR concerned parent/grandparent/teacher/school admin to understand the ".16 reading number."

More FUDD from lack of transparency and relevancy within it's own information dissemination.
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Never thought I'd be thanking Greenpeace for anything in my lifetime, but here y'go, Greenpeace.

THANK YOU GREENPEACE for penetrating the veil of denial with your onsite visit and subsequent reported Fukushima findings! Will you be visiting Alaska, Washington, Oregon and California west coastal cities next?


beefsteak

beefsteak
21st June 2011, 11:49 AM
Gauge malfunction causes 'bad data' on river level, Sunday acc'd to Nebraska Hydrologist.

http://journalstar.com/article_ab3bdc11-45bd-5550-87c6-0f5a03b1e0b6.html


yeah, right....can't show 902'!!! NO WAY. NO HOW! Otherwise, TPTB be losin' money if they are required to shut down Ft. Calhoun NPP

BTW, I read somewhere this weekend but didn't jot down where, the owners of these NPPs start making billions after service age 20. No wonder they get 20 year designed plants re-upped to 40, now 60 years, long after they leak like a sieve.

Follow the money....


beefsteak

Serpo
21st June 2011, 03:08 PM
Inches away from being America's Fukushima: Nuclear plant dangerously close to being engulfed by Missouri floods
Nuclear plant inches from being totally flooded, but is saved - for now
Damage would be likely to cause energy prices to soar
Six to 12 inches of heavy rainfall over the last few weeks
Record floods hit 44.4 feet, topping 44.3 feet record set in 1993
Levees fail to stem surge of water and sand is running out
Flooding expected to continue until August
Residents begin burning wood to avoid it becoming flood debris
Meanwhile, engineers close the Bonnet Carre Spillway near New Orleans

A nuclear plant was inches away from being engulfed by the bloated Missouri River after several levees in the area failed to hold back its surging waters, raising fears it could become America's Fukushima.

Dramatic pictures show the moment the plant was threatened with being shut down today, as water levels rose ominously to within 18 inches of its walls.

The river has to hit 902 feet above sea level at Brownville before officials will shut down the Cooper Nuclear Plant, which sits at 903 feet. It stopped and ebbed slightly yesterday, a reprieve caused by levee breaches in northwest Missouri - for now.

Pictures.........


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2005758/Missouri-river-floods-250-residents-evacuated-water-threatens-breach-banks.html

Serpo
21st June 2011, 03:14 PM
Nothing from TPTB........how unusual......

Canadian newspaper tries to get soil tested for radiation — Private companies, gov’t agencies, and universities all refused to get involved
June 21st, 2011 at 02:49 PM

Health Canada says no worries, Gander Beacon by Stephanie Stein, June 21, 2011:

In the June 2 edition of The Beacon, it was discussed how the release of radiation from the Fukushima plant in Japan could potentially be poisoning Canadian soil, and possibly central Newfoundland. Evidence from various radiation monitors and news reports have shown that it has become a worldwide issue, and given that the airspace is shared, Canada and the U.S. have been directly affected as well.

Even though local farmers have not tested their soil and water, Nita Abbott of LA Farms, near Gambo, expressed an interest in having her land tested to ensure they’re selling a safe product. The newspaper contacted private testing companies, government agencies, and universities to inquire if they would consider testing local farms. All of them said they were not interested in getting involved at any level. Health Canada also reported that everything is normal. [...]

http://enenews.com/canadian-newspaper-soil-tested-radiation-private-companies-govt-agencies-universities-all-refused-involved

gunDriller
21st June 2011, 05:06 PM
Nothing from TPTB........how unusual......

Canadian newspaper tries to get soil tested for radiation — Private companies, gov’t agencies, and universities all refused to get involved
June 21st, 2011 at 02:49 PM

Health Canada says no worries, Gander Beacon by Stephanie Stein, June 21, 2011:

In the June 2 edition of The Beacon, it was discussed how the release of radiation from the Fukushima plant in Japan could potentially be poisoning Canadian soil, and possibly central Newfoundland. Evidence from various radiation monitors and news reports have shown that it has become a worldwide issue, and given that the airspace is shared, Canada and the U.S. have been directly affected as well.

Even though local farmers have not tested their soil and water, Nita Abbott of LA Farms, near Gambo, expressed an interest in having her land tested to ensure they’re selling a safe product. The newspaper contacted private testing companies, government agencies, and universities to inquire if they would consider testing local farms. All of them said they were not interested in getting involved at any level. Health Canada also reported that everything is normal. [...]

http://enenews.com/canadian-newspaper-soil-tested-radiation-private-companies-govt-agencies-universities-all-refused-involved

i guess there's another thread about this.

i found a little more info about Juanita the Farmer Woman -

http://www.lafarmsmarket.com/
/\ the website for their farm in Newfoundland

http://www.atlanticfarmfocus.ca/Agriculture/2011-06-09/article-2571674/To-test-or-not-to-test/1
/\ another article in a farm journal.

"The Beacon then called around to local farmers to inform them of the situation and gauge who would be interested in having their farms tested. Some were extremely reluctant, saying Health Canada claimed there was no risk, so they see no reason to investigate further. Gambo’s Nita Abbott of LA Farms, and her husband Ken, have been running their 150-acre farm in Gambo for 11 years, growing vegetables and some fruit. She expressed an interest, and feels it would be irresponsible not to be open to testing given that people’s health could be at risk. Ms. Abbott acknowledged that with radiation in our jet stream it naturally penetrates soil and water during a rainfall.

Ms. Abbott added she had four loons in her pond, which makes it difficult to believe anything is wrong. However, if there is a radiation threat she wants to deal with it."


sounds to me like Ms. Abbott has a normal conscientious farmer response. and Health Canada and TPTB don't want that testing done.

so - tasing civilians is OK but testing for nuclear contamination is bad.

what an upside-down world.

beefsteak
21st June 2011, 07:43 PM
Thanks, Gunny!

And Amen to that upside - down world! Would that it were NOT so.


beefsteak

Serpo
22nd June 2011, 09:42 AM
Who would want to test their land as it may test positive and what then.Live in denial.

Serpo
22nd June 2011, 09:46 AM
Radioactive substances rose 5 km in air on March 14-15 — Carried by jet stream to US and Europe
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:12 AM

Wind carried radiation to Europe from Japan, researchers say, Deutsche Presse-Agentur, June 22, 2011:

Radioactive substances spewed from a damaged Japanese nuclear plant were carried to Europe through the United States by a jet stream, Japanese researchers said, Jiji news agency reported Wednesday.

A Japanese research group led by Toshihiko Takemura, associate professor at Kyushu University, tracked the flow of leaked radiation from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant through a computer simulation. [...]

Radioactive substances rose to about 5 kilometres when a low pressure system passed over eastern Japan on March 14-15, the researchers said.

The substances were blown eastward by a jet stream traveling at a speed of some 3,000 kilometres a day, arriving on the US West Coast on March 18, in Iceland on March 20, and many other European countries on March 22, the researchers said. [...]







http://enenews.com/radioactive-substances-rose-5-km-air-march-14-15-carried-jet-stream-europe

Serpo
22nd June 2011, 02:11 PM
Hundreds of Atomic 'Suicide Bombs' Could be Triggered by Solar Flares Says Swiss Prop
Mon Jun 20, 10:00 am ET

All nuclear power plants on Earth at risk from potential solar flare shutdown of power grid according to information from extraterrestrials; no safe form of nuclear power possible, humanity urged to develop deep geothermal energy, etc.

Playa del Rey, CA (PRWEB) June 20, 2011

According to information from Michael Horn, the American media representative for Swiss prophet Billy Meier, the hundreds of nuclear power plants on Earth, which are now at increased risk from severe solar flare activity in 2012, are effectively huge, atomic "suicide bombs" against which humanity has absolutely no protection.

Meier, who's published volumes of unerringly accurate, scientific information decades ahead of scientists, said that the Fukushima catastrophe is already considered a "super worst-case-scenario" by the extraterrestrials who have provided him with information for over 69 years - even though it's still not fully reported in the media. He claims that plutonium has already started to contaminate the sea and all life in it, which could potentially affect countless millions of human beings, despite being denied by various vested interests. Meier also stated that smaller atomic power plant accidents have already occurred but have been hidden from the public.

It Can Happen Here

Horn said, "There's already been a situation in the U.S. that shows how vulnerable we are to catastrophes from this terminally toxic technology. And now, in addition to dangers from earthquakes and tsunamis, terrorists, and even from meteorites hitting the atomic plants, we have the prospect of solar flares shutting down the supply of electricity worldwide, which could lead to disastrous situations at all atomic plants.

"Certainly, there's also no shortage of speculation now about the coming solar activity; even NASA and other scientists have warned us to, somehow, prepare for it. Of course humanity as a whole still is quite unaware about these complex, compounded problems we face."

Clear, clean solutions

Horn added, "The unavoidable fact is that if we wish to survive we must abandon nuclear power, along with the tradition of putting the pursuit dollars above the concern for all life on the planet. Meier proposed that we rapidly develop deep geothermal energy as a certain way to meet 100% of our energy needs. The problem, of course, is that deep geothermal energy is virtually pollution free, non-toxic and sensible, which may make it unappealing to those who prefer that we annihilate ourselves with atomic power plant 'suicide bombs'. However, there already are parties in other countries that are now wisely pursuing this course.

"We should learn all we can from them and apply our ingenuity to perfecting deep geothermal energy for our energy needs...while we dismantle the atomic power plants and their threat to our future survival. Failure to do so would be a fatal mistake and one which no amount of money could ever undo."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/201106...b/prweb8584819

beefsteak
23rd June 2011, 12:20 AM
It is being reported tonight 6/22, and upon checking it has been found to be correctly reported:

FOX news HAS PULLED the video soundbyte/reporting attached to the article posted on this thread in post # 2256 of this topic.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?45415-What-if-the-Jap-reactor-Blows-what-will-be-the-effect-on-the-Western-USA&p=425216&viewfull=1#post425216


beefsteak

gunDriller
23rd June 2011, 02:42 PM
i think Fukushima will be the straw that broke the camel's back ... breaking a world economy that was already stretched very, very, very thin.

but, just think - if the Calhoun problem situation escalates ... or there's a medium to large size quake on the Pacific Coast (7 to 8+) ...

popcorn time

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/popcorn-1.jpg


in human affairs, things often happen because they can. e.g. Clinton's affair with Lewinsky.

in nature, things happen at their own time.

what is striking about our society right now is, we have no slack, and we have used up whatever slack may have existed by going humongously deep into debt.

so if Mother Nature hits us with a little extra surprise ...


if we were to use a water safety metaphor - well, one rule of ocean swimming is, you ALWAYS save some reserves - in case you need it, in case you get caught in a rip tide.


there's so little reserves that a minor incident can now wreak far more havoc than when everybody had a well stocked pantry.

it's as if the US government & general public was suicidal.

beefsteak
23rd June 2011, 05:50 PM
You certainly summarized that well, Gunny. The margin for error, aka surprise is totally in the 90s. And it's our own Air Force who is in control of the weather, and doing this HAARP HAVOC on our own homeland? Who's running that brance of the service? And what is he thinking? And is he close to retirement? YET!!!!? ? ? ?

beefsteak

beefsteak
23rd June 2011, 06:12 PM
Headlines today warning of imminent boiling temps in spent fuel pool #4, the building which is leaning, and the roof totally missing, caused a brief internal review w/r/t the meaning of the potential event.

A) Steam will be released in tremendously radioactive quality and quantity.

B) MOX rods are almost certain to comprise some of the potentially exposed rods in SFP#4.

C) This is the SFP which contains over 20 years of rods from at least all 4 facilities if not more.

D) The spent fuel rods are densely packed, basically overpopulating the SFP#4

E) Since the SFP rods are still very radioactive, they are quite literally hot as well...currently in the range of 2740 F (90C)

F) If a fire is ignited, there is no known method for extinguishing it, and all 1500+ rods THAT JAPAN ADMITS TO BEING THERE, are potential fuel for this potential fire.

G) If any recall, some earlier contributors on this thread used their experience in this field to estimate a more accurate count of the rods in this pool. The number in excess of 5,000 sticks in my mind.

H) The "recently removed" still viable Reactor 4 fuel rods were stored overhead in this same pool just days before 3/11

It is my hope that others will share their thoughts on any more pertinent facts on SFP#4 as we await on tinterhooks to see if #4 goes before Ft Calhoun (Nebraska) goes first.

I'm still in various stages of grief over this entire tragedy. Not anywhere close to the "acceptance phase." My wife and I deeply appreciate having GS-USers to share our concerns for and with.


beefsteak

Serpo
23rd June 2011, 11:31 PM
Monju: The In-Vessel Transfer Machine Has Been Pulled Out

3rd time charm.

The Japan Atomic Energy Agency who runs the Monju Fast Breeder Reactor announced the In-Vessel Transfer Machine (IVTM) was successfully pulled out of the reactor at 4:55AM JST on June 24.
Sphere: Related Content

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/06/monju-in-vessel-transfer-machine-has.html

Serpo
23rd June 2011, 11:33 PM
#Fukushima I Nuke Plant: T-Hawk Helicopter Crashed onto Reactor 2 Building

The US-made unmanned helicopter T-Hawk crashed on the roof of the Reactor 2 reactor building of Fukushima I Nuke Power Plant as it was taking air samples for radiation measurement.

Never a dull day at Fukushima I.

Yomiuri Shinbun (12:31PM JST 6/24/2011) reports:

東京電力は24日、福島第一原子力発電所2号機上空で放射性物質の濃度を測るため空気を採取していた米国製 無人ヘリコプター「Tホーク」が、同日午前7時ごろに操縦不能に陥り、2号機の原子炉建屋の屋上に墜落した と発表した。

TEPCO announced on June 24 that the US-made unmanned helicopter T-Hawk became inoperable at about 7AM and crashed into the roof of the Reactor 2's reactor building. The helicopter was taking air samples to measure radiation.

 Tホークは重さが約8キロ、プロペラの差し渡しは約50センチ。炎や煙は確認されていないが、クレーン車 で屋上の画像を撮影するなどして、建屋に損傷がないかどうか確認を急ぐ。

T-Hawk weighs about 8 kilogram, with the wingspan of about 50 centimeters. There is no fire or smoke observed on the building, but TEPCO will use the crane to take a video of the roof and make sure there is no damage to the building.

 2号機の原子炉建屋は19日夜から外部に面した扉を開き、建屋内にこもっていた高湿度の空気の放出を始め ている。無人ヘリは無線操縦で2号機上空を飛び、原子炉建屋から出ている空気を採取して、着陸後に放射線量 などを測定する予定だった。

The reactor building's double door has been open since the night of June 19 to release the humid air inside the building. T-Hawk was to fly over the Reactor 2 to collect air samples, and to measure the radiation after landing.

Sphere: Related Content

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/

beefsteak
24th June 2011, 04:30 PM
Release the Reactor #2's "humid air"...you mean like we used to go sit on a blanket in the front yard to escape, while sister played the Ukelale and Dad sang funny songs on HOT summer nights in the midwest back in the "olden days?"

Masterful understatement you captured for us there, Serpo. Thanks!

beefsteak
24th June 2011, 04:33 PM
After starting research on radioactive cesium, strontium consumed by chickens and then passed along in the eggs, the following resource popped up...FROM 1986 Q&A no less, by a Chernobyl survivor.


http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/beefsteak_GIM/radioactivechickenseggs.jpg

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Any help along these lines for helping ourselves and helping others, please share. Thanks!


beefsteak

gunDriller
24th June 2011, 07:11 PM
You certainly summarized that well, Gunny. The margin for error, aka surprise is totally in the 90s. And it's our own Air Force who is in control of the weather, and doing this HAARP HAVOC on our own homeland? Who's running that brance of the service? And what is he thinking? And is he close to retirement? YET!!!!? ? ? ?

beefsteak

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/factSheet.html

thanks ! i felt like looking up HAARP -

What is the IRI and what does it transmit?

"Basically, the IRI is what is known as a phased array transmitter. It is designed to transmit a narrow beam of high power radio signals in the 2.8 to 10 MHz frequency range. Its antenna is built on a gravel pad having dimensions of 1000' x 1200' (about 33 acres). There are 180 towers, 72' in height mounted on thermopiles spaced 80' apart in a 12 x 15 rectangular grid. Each tower supports near its top, two pairs of crossed dipole antennas, one for the low band (2.8 to 8.3 MHz), the other for the high band (7 to 10 MHz). The antenna system is surrounded by an exclusion fence to prevent possible damage to the antenna towers or harm to large animals. An elevated ground screen, attached to the towers at the 15' level, acts as a reflector for the antenna array while allowing vehicular access underneath to 30 environmentally-controlled transmitter shelters spaced throughout the array. Each shelter contains 6 pairs of 10 kW transmitters, for a total of 6 x 30 x 2 x 10 kW = 3600 kW available for transmission. The transmitters can be switched to drive either the low or high band antennas."

in the sci-fi movie "The Arrival", and also i think in the movie "Contact" (with Jodie Foster) they show antenna arrays similar to what the HAARP website describes.


http://www.copvcia.com/free/pandora/haarp.html

some decent research from Ruppert -

"WEATHER WARFARE"

World renowned scientist Dr. Rosalie Bertell confirms that "US military scientists are working on weather systems as a potential weapon. The methods include
the enhancing of storms and the diverting of vapor rivers in the Earth's atmosphere to produce targeted droughts or floods."(2)


so, if a Navy Seal is assigned to the HAARP program ... is he a HAARP Seal ? :-)

Glass
24th June 2011, 08:58 PM
so, if a Navy Seal is assigned to the HAARP program ... is he a HAARP Seal ? :-)

I think he might be from the HAARP Seal Corps.

beefsteak
26th June 2011, 04:36 PM
Monday, June 27, 2011

Residents' urine now radioactive Fukushima
Kyodo

More than 3 millisieverts of radiation has been measured in the urine of 15 Fukushima residents of the village of Iitate and the town of Kawamata, confirming internal radiation exposure, it was learned Sunday.

Both are about 30 to 40 km from the Fukushima No. 1 power plant, which has been releasing radioactive material into the environment since the week of March 11, when the quake and tsunami caused core meltdowns.

"This won't be a problem if they don't eat vegetables or other products that are contaminated," said Nanao Kamada, professor emeritus of radiation biology at Hiroshima University. "But it will be difficult for people to continue living in these areas."

Kamada teamed up with doctors including Osamu Saito of Watari Hospital in the city of Fukushima to conduct two rounds of tests on each resident in early and late May, taking urine samples from 15 people between 4 and 77.

Radioactive cesium was found both times in each resident.

Radioactive iodine was logged as high as 3.2 millisieverts in six people in the first survey, but none was found in the second survey.

The data indicate accumulated external exposure was between 4.9 and 13.5 millisieverts, putting the grand total between 4.9 to 14.2 millisieverts over about two months, they said.

"The figures did not exceed the maximum of 20 millisieverts a year, but we want residents to use these results to make decisions (to move)," said Kamada.

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110627a2.html

Serpo
26th June 2011, 10:43 PM
rense.com


Ft Calhoun Newest Photos Have Disappeared
By Dr. Tom Burnett
6-27-11


MSNBC apparently had a picture of the Ft. Calhoun nuclear plant taken today AFTER the 'water dam' - barely visible surrounding the reactor and main control buildings in this photo taken on June 24 - burst. But that page is now 'page not found'.




I'll guess that when the aqua dam burst, the control room was flooded. They are saying "no problem, there is no danger"- but, of course, there IS a problem.

The REASON there is a problem and why they aren't telling the truth is because, while Fukishima is equivalent to about twenty Chernobyls and Ft. Calhoun is equivalent to about twenty Fukushimas. Not because it has a lot of reactors - or even a very big one. But because it is holding an immense amount of nuclear fuel in its cooling pool.

This isn't some elevated bathtub like the cooling pools at Fukushima. Oh, no. This cooling pool is forty feet UNDER GROUND AND forty feet ABOVE GROUND. It's EIGHTY FEET DEEP IN TOTAL. If they can't cool it, the corn belt is in trouble.

I'm guessing that it's the big rectangular building behind-left (actually touching) the round nuclear reactor containment building.
Why do I think that? Because it has no windows or ventilation and it's about the only building on-site large enough to hold the amount of spent nuclear fuel it has to hold - and, by the way, it was filled up to capacity in 2006 - which is why they had to start storing the excess spent fuel rods in those concrete dry casks outside of the pool. But I could be wrong. If I am, please send me a diagram - not an opiniongram.

The dry casks are visible near the top of the picture. They are grey concrete blocks set together on the large, grey square area.
The casks have white doors facing a little to the left in the photo. The NRC says there is 'no problem' should the casks become partially submerged by Missouri flood waters.

The back-up generators are probably flooded as well. They were ALSO what the rubber dam was in place to protect. Even if they aren't, there is water in the electrical system. That's what the yellow cards from the NRC were about last year - and those cards were never signed off as safe. There are at least six and probably dozens of NRC and government people there 'closely monitoring' the plant. All they can do is watch.

The 'emergency' plans were only thought up when the water started rising and were only implemented beginning on June 6. Before thet, the plant owners were still pissing back and forth with the NRC that a flood that bad couldn't happen. And the brilliant rubber condom around the plant didn't just burst by itself. The dumbasses were piddling around and managed to pop it themselves!

So, when they tell me there is no danger at all, I know otherwise because the rubber dam was the last resort...and that ANY water higher than that is too much - and the water was clearly VERY high up on it when it burst.

I'm thinking that if I call another disaster, and it happens, it will start getting dicey in about sixty-four hours. From now.

Also hard to find photo of flooded area.......click on photo to enlarge

http://www.rense.com/general94/newst.htm

Serpo
26th June 2011, 10:43 PM
A protective berm holding back floodwaters from a Nebraska nuclear power plant collapsed early Sunday after it was accidentally torn, surrounding containment buildings and key electrical equipment with Missouri River overflow.

Nuclear Regulatory Commission inspectors verified that processes to cool the reactor and spent-fuel pool were unaffected, the agency said in a press release.

The 484-megawatt Fort Calhoun plant, located 19 miles north of Omaha, had been shut down since April 7 for refueling, and the NRC has said it won't be restarted until floodwaters recede.

Regulators have been keeping close watch on Fort Calhoun and Cooper Nuclear Station, both operated by the state of Nebraska, as flooding along the Missouri River has become increasingly widespread.

Two years ago, deficiencies in flood preparation at the plant were found during an inspection, but were remedied.

The situation in Nebraska has developed amid heightened fears about nuclear safety following the catastrophe at the Fukushima Daiichi plant in Japan. The damage wreaked by an earthquake-triggered tsunami in early March was the cause of a series of explosions and the release of harmful radiation.

The water-filled berm—not required by NRC regulations— provided supplemental protection. It collapsed at about 1:25 a.m. after it was accidentally torn while work was being performed at the site, according to Victor Dricks, an NRC spokesman.

The berm, essentially a huge inner tube, subsequently collapsed. Mr. Dricks said he didn't know the exact nature of the work that was underway.

The auxiliary and containment buildings surrounded by water are protected by design to a floodwater level of 1,014 mean sea level. Missouri River levels aren't expected to exceed 1,008 feet.

The berm's collapse allowed floodwaters to wash around the main electrical transformers. As a result, emergency diesel power generators were started. Later in the day, power was restored.

The NRC's Mr. Dricks said temperature monitors were working properly and temperatures of key parts of the nuclear power plant were normal. Water has not seeped into any of the containment structures, he said.

Even when in shutdown mode, a nuclear plant requires electricity to keep key components cool in order to avoid any degradation or melting of the core that could result in the release of radiation.

In response to the berm collapse, the NRC has activated its Incident Response Center. The lowest of four levels of emergency notification remain in effect for the plant.

NRC Chairman Gregory Jaczko is scheduled to visit the plant on Monday. Water levels were receding a bit overnight, but weather forecasts are calling for more rain.



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304447804576410083499886642.html

Serpo
27th June 2011, 01:01 AM
TEPCO - Disaster in Slow Motion
The Reactor 2 Debacle
By Dr. Tom Burnett
6-25-11


Earlier this week, TEPCO tried to fill the reactor 2 containment with water. That didn't work. So, they OPENED the containment and released BILLIONS of lethal doses of radiation. Now they are wondering whether there is any water left in the bottom of the containment. Let's help them. Since the bottom of the reactor is hot enough to melt concrete, and IS melting concrete, and no steam is coming out of the reactor, here's why:

The core of Reactor 2 is still in at least intermittent fission and has melted through the bottom of the containment. Thus, there is a hole in the bottom of the reactor where the core is melting through - it's several thousand degrees down there. Water pours through holes and what doesn't boils at 212 degrees. So there is no water in the bottom of the reactor.

Then they tried to toss in some instruments but, of course, they melted - like their little helicopter and their robot - which was built to go into reactors, except no one bothered to see if it would work BEFORE IT WAS TOO LATE - which it didn't.

Now they are going to pump liquid nitrogen into the core of reactor 2. Liquid nitrogen freezes at -346 degrees F and boils at -321 degrees F. A 25 degree F difference. First, they will probably never actually get any liquid nitrogen near the core - it will boil away immediately upon being pumped into the containment (they tried it at Chernobyl - it didn't work there, either).


If, by some physical quirk they manage to pump some on a nuclear core at 3,000 degrees F, they will be mightily surprised at what happens. The expansion ration of liquid nitrogen is about 1:7. They will probably manage to asphyxiate everyone within a block if it doesn't blow up in their face. But maybe they will get lucky. Maybe they will only release a few billion more lethal doses of radiation.

Will it cool the core? Not exactly, but it will certainly rupture anything that goes from 3,000 degrees to - 300 in a microsecond - basically anything it touches at the bottom of that reactor. Within about five seconds after they finish screwing THAT up - they will run out of liquid nitrogen.

You read it here first.

TEPCO Ready To Inject Nitrogen Into No. 2 reactor

Tokyo Electric Power Company is ready to inject nitrogen into the containment vessel of the Number 2 reactor at its Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant to prevent hydrogen blasts.

The company says it will monitor radiation levels around the compound more closely as the nitrogen may force out tiny amounts of gas containing radioactive substances.

Work is underway at the damaged nuclear plant to decontaminate water and inject it back into the reactor for cooling.

But if the reactors are cooled to a stable level, less moisture will be produced, raising the ratio of hydrogen in the air.

Hydrogen can cause an explosion when it reacts with oxygen.

TEPCO has been pumping nitrogen into the No.1 reactor since April and has completed preparations to do the same at the No. 2 reactor.

The utility assessed the possible effects of nitrogen injection into the No.2 reactor, and submitted its report to the government's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency on Friday.

It plans to start the injection as soon as it obtains the consent of the agency.

Sunday, June 26, 2011 02:50 +0900

http://www.rense.com/general94/tepdos.htm

beefsteak
27th June 2011, 06:57 AM
Release the Reactor #2's "humid air"...you mean like we used to go sit on a blanket in the front yard to escape, while sister played the Ukelale and Dad sang funny songs on HOT summer nights in the midwest back in the "olden days?"


Ah HA! So, the "humid air release" addressed in the TEPCO press release was really billions of radioactive doses from trying to drown the reactor...more M.O.P.N (Management Of Perception Nuclear) ....just as we all figured.

Now we know what the Japanese translation of "humid air" is.....

Serpo
27th June 2011, 07:16 PM
Preventing radiation contamination more important than TEPCO’s stock prices, Mainichi, June 20, 2011:

[...] The crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant is still not over. Far from it, there are signs that it is getting worse. [...]

In a TV Asahi program on June 16, [Hiroaki Koide, an assistant professor at the Kyoto University Research Reactor Institute] made the following comment:

“As far as I can tell from the announcements made by Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO), the nuclear fuel that has melted down inside reactors at the Fukushima nuclear plant has gone through the bottom of the containers, which are like pressure cookers, and is lying on the concrete foundations, sinking into the ground below. We have to install a barrier deep in the soil and build a subterranean dam as soon as possible to prevent groundwater contaminated with radioactive materials from leaking into the ocean.”

His comment captured public interest and when I asked a high-ranking government official about it, the official said that construction of an underground dam was indeed being prepared. But when I probed further, I found that the project was in limbo due to opposition from TEPCO.

Sumio Mabuchi, an aide to Prime Minister Naoto Kan who is dealing with nuclear power plant issues, holds the same concerns as those expressed by Koide and has sought an announcement on construction of an underground dam, but TEPCO has resisted such a move. [...]



http://enenews.com/japanese-professor-melted-nuclear-fuel-has-gone-through-bottom-of-containers-and-is-sinking-into-ground-below-as-far-as-i-can-tell-underground-dam-was-being-prepared-but-tepco-resisting

Glass
27th June 2011, 08:34 PM
I'm getting a sneaking suspicion that everything they do is designed to spread nuclear material and radiation around the place. Of course if the radiation is over here, and here and there and some over there but there is none at the actual nuke plant that would be a good thing wouldn't it? No radiation at the plant itself means they could give it a clean bill of health. Seems to me like they have ratcheted up the depopulation programs. Of course I wouldn't expect them to announce this stepping up of attacks against humanity. That would be like telegraphing your punches.

None of this passes the sniff test and I can't get this damn smell out of my nostrils.

Serpo
28th June 2011, 12:37 AM
Thousands of residents have calmly fled from the town that's home to the Los Alamos nuclear laboratory, ahead of an approaching wildfire that sent up towering plumes of smoke, rained down ash and sparked a spot fire on lab property where scientists 50 years ago conducted underground tests of radioactive explosives.

Los Alamos National Laboratory officials said that the spot fire was soon contained and no contamination was released. They also assured that radioactive materials stored in various spots elsewhere on the sprawling lab were safe from flames.

The wildfire, which began yesterday (NZ time), had destroyed 30 structures south and west of Los Alamos and forced the closure of the lab while stirring memories of a devastating blaze in May 2000 that destroyed hundreds of homes and buildings.

"The hair on the back of your neck goes up," Los Alamos County fire chief Doug Tucker said of first seeing the fire in the Santa Fe National Forest. "I saw that plume and I thought, 'Oh my God here we go again'."

Tucker said the current blaze - which grew to roughly 44,000 acres, or 68 square miles - was the most active fire he had seen in his career. By midafternoon, it had jumped a highway and burned an acre of land on the outskirts of the lab's 36-square mile complex.

The fire scorched a section of what is known as the Tech Area, 49, which was used in the early 1960s for a series of underground tests with high explosives and radioactive materials. Lab officials said the fire was safely extinguished.

Lab spokesman Kevin Roark said environmental specialists from the lab were mobilised and monitoring air quality, but that the main concern was smoke.

The anti-nuclear watchdog group Concerned Citizens for Nuclear Safety, however, said the fire appeared to be about 5km from a dumpsite where as many as 30,000 55-gallon drums of plutonium-contaminated waste were stored in fabric tents above ground. The group said the drums were awaiting transport to a low-level radiation dump site in southern New Mexico.

Lab spokesman Steve Sandoval declined to confirm that there were any such drums currently on the property. He acknowledged that low-level waste is at times put in drums and regularly taken from the lab to the Waste Isolation Pilot Project site in Carlsbad.

Sandoval said the fire was "quite a bit away" from that storage area. But he could not say what would happen if drums containing such waste were to burn.

"Unfortunately, I cannot answer that question other than to say that the material is well protected. And the lab - knowing that it works with hazardous and nuclear materials - takes great pains to make sure it is protected and locked in concrete steel vaults. And the fire poses very little threat to them."

Senator Tom Udall who was visiting evacuees at the Santa Claran Hotel Casino in Espanola, said "there's no doubt" the lab stores a variety of hazardous and radioactive materials that "you don't want to escape in the atmosphere." But he said he was confident lab and state environmental officials had monitoring systems in place to "evaluate exactly what we're seeing here."
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Traffic on Trinity Drive, one of the main roads out of Los Alamos, was bumper-to-bumper Monday afternoon as residents followed orders to leave. Authorities said about 2500 of the town's roughly 12,000 residents left under an earlier voluntary evacuation.

"We're just hoping for the best," Vivian Levy, a resident since the 1970s, said as she packed her car and her animals - again.

"Last time, I just walked out of my house and said goodbye, and that it was going to be OK," she said before breaking down in tears. "I'm doing the same thing this time. It's going to be OK. I'm prepared to say goodbye."

Sam Kendericks said he knew the blaze was going to be bad when he first saw the plume Sunday.

"I was going to the hardware store and I did a U-turn as soon as I saw the plume come over the mountain. I told my wife to start packing. We were here 10 years ago. We had 20 minutes last time. So this time we're ready," he said.

The fire has the potential to double or triple in size, Tucker said, and firefighters had no idea which direction the 60 mph-plus winds would take it.

"We are preparing for the fire to go in any direction," Tucker said.

On Monday afternoon, the flames were just across the road from the southern edge of the famed northern New Mexico lab, where scientists developed the first atomic bomb during World War II. The lab activated its emergency operations center overnight and cut natural gas to some areas overnight as a precaution.

In 2009, the US Department of Energy's inspector general issued a report that said Los Alamos County firefighters weren't sufficiently trained to handle the unique fires they could face with hazardous or radioactive materials at LANL.

Lab and fire department officials at the time said the report focused too much on past problems and not enough on what had been done to resolve them. Some problems also were noted in previous reports.

On Monday, lab and fire officials said they were confident that if the flames reached lab property they would be able to protect its sensitive facilities.

"We're in a much better place than we were 11 years ago," said Rich Marquez, executive director of the lab, noting the lab has thinned out potential fire hazards and has enacted a number of emergency protocols.

"Our day to day activity is about appropriate stewardship of those resources. We take precautions just in our normal existence and the way we plan, the way we manage materials like that. We assume the worst."

The lab, which employs about 15,000 people, covers more than 36 square miles and includes about 2000 buildings at nearly four dozen sites or "technical areas." Those include research facilities as well as waste disposal sites. Some lab facilities, including the administration building, are in the community of Los Alamos while others are several miles away from the town.

Greg Mello, with the anti-nuclear watchdog Los Alamos Study Group, said the group doesn't have enough information "to formulate any views on safety at this point."

"It is important to remind ourselves that the site has natural hazards ... and Murphy's Law is still about the best enforced law in the state," he said.

The blaze also was threatening Frijoles Canyon, which is home to a number of sacred Native American archaeological sites. Also threatened, Tucker said, was the recently restored Bandelier National Monument.

At least 30 structures had burned south of Los Alamos overnight, but Tucker said it was unclear exactly how many of those were homes.
The blaze started on private land about 12 miles southwest of Los Alamos and quickly grew. Flames and smoke could be seen from the outskirts of Albuquerque, about 80 miles away. A cause wasn't immediately known.

The fire was eerily similar to one of the most destructive fires in New Mexico history. That fire, the Cerro Grande, burned some 47,000 acres - 73 square miles - in May 2000 and caused more than US$1 billion in property damage. About 400 homes and 100 buildings on lab property were destroyed in that fire. That blaze also raised concerns about toxic runoff and radioactive smoke, although lab officials said no contaminants were released during it.

Another fire continued to burn uncontrolled on the other side of Santa Fe. The Pacheco fire near Santa Fe has burned about 9900 acres and is 10 per cent contained, according to the Forest Service. And about 125 acres were burning south of Albuquerque along the Rio Grande bosque.

Meanwhile, the biggest blaze in Arizona history was 82 percent contained after burning through 538,000 acres in the White Mountains in northeast Arizona. The fire started May 29 and has destroyed 32 homes. It's believed to have been caused by a campfire.

And in Colorado, about 100 firefighters are battling a wildfire that broke out in a canyon northwest of Boulder.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/5203498/Wildfire-shuts-US-nuke-lab-forces-evacuations

Golden
28th June 2011, 04:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBxP-mPZzUk&feature=channel_video_title

Say what?

Golden
28th June 2011, 04:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GdqUm5NhYA&feature=channel_video_title

Diagram at 0:15

Serpo
28th June 2011, 04:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ESVDI2OQZ4&feature=player_embedded



Arnie Gundersen on Five O’clock Shadow with Robert Knight, WBAI, June 28, 2011 at 5:00 pm EDT:
Intake structure probably the most vulnerable, not auxiliary and containment buildings…
Intake structure draws in river water that cools reactor and spent fuel pool… critical that it stay dry…
If gets water in it and emergency service water pumps fail then you’ve got a case where you’re going to cause fuel damage…
Probably the most vulnerable at Ft Calhoun…

Serpo
29th June 2011, 02:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE7g-zEClwk&feature=player_embedded#at=103

beefsteak
29th June 2011, 06:08 PM
Radiation in Our Food

By Chris Kilham (http://www.foxnews.com/author/chris-kilham/index.html)
Published June 29, 2011
| FoxNews.com
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Though the horrendous tsunami that hit Japan (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/japan.htm#r_src=ramp) on March 12, 2011 seems like old news in the midst of today’s headlines, the crippled nuclear power plants at Fukishima Daichi continue to spew radiation into water, air and soil, with no end in sight.

Even as thousands of Japanese workers struggle to contain the ongoing nuclear disaster, low levels of radiation from those power plants have been detected in foods in the United States (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/u.s.htm#r_src=ramp). Milk, fruits and vegetables show trace amounts of radioactive isotopes from the Fukushima Daichi power plants, and the media appears to be paying scant attention, if any attention at all. It is as if the problem only involves Japan, not the vast Pacific Ocean, into which highly radioactive water has poured by the dozens of tons, and not into air currents and rainwater that carry radiation to U.S. soil and to the rest of the world. And while both Switzerland (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/switzerland.htm#r_src=ramp) and Germany (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/germany.htm#r_src=ramp) have come out against any further nuclear development, the U.S. the nuclear power industry (http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/06/29/radiation-in-our-food/#) continues as usual, with aging and crumbling power plants receiving extended operating licenses from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, as though it can’t happen here. But it is happening here, on your dinner plate.

Taking a page from the BP pubic relations handbook, TEPCO (Tokyo Electric Power Company and the Japanese government have downplayed the extent of the nuclear disaster at Fukushima Daichi, in which three of six nuclear reactors are in ongoing meltdown. According to Japanese nuclear engineer Naoto Sekimura, nuclear fuel rod meltdown at the damaged plants began only hours after the tsunami, and the situation has not been contained. There is still an ongoing threat of a total “China (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/china.htm#r_src=ramp) Syndrome” meltdown, and Japanese officials now say that the three damaged plants may possibly continue to emit uncontrolled radiation for another year.

According to Greenpeace, the ocean around large areas of Japan has been contaminated by toxic radioactive agents including cesium, iodine, plutonium and strontium. These radioactive agents are accumulating in sea life. Fish, shellfish and sea vegetables are absorbing this radiation, while airborne radioactive particles have contaminated land-based crops in Japan, including spinach and tea grown 200 miles south of the damaged nuclear plants. Meanwhile, on U.S. soil, radiation began to show up in samples of milk tested in California, just one month after the plants were damaged.

Radiation tests conducted since the nuclear disaster in Japan have detected radioactive iodine and cesium in milk and vegetables produced in California. According to tests conducted by scientists at the UC Berkeley Department of Nuclear Engineering, milk from grass fed cows in Sonoma County was contaminated with cesium 137 and cesium 134.

Milk sold in
Arizona,
Arkansas,
Hawaii,
Vermont and
Washington
......has also tested positive for radiation since the accident.

Additionally, drinking water tested in some U.S. municipalities also shows radioactive contamination. Is the fallout from Fukushima Daichi falling on us? Yes, it is.

Thanks to the jet stream air currents that flow across the Pacific Ocean, the U.S. is receiving a steady flow of radiation from Fukushima Daichi. And while many scientists say that the levels of contamination in food pose no significant threat to health, scientists are unable to establish any actual safe limit for radiation in food.

Detection of radioactive iodine 131, which degrades rapidly, in California milk samples shows that the fallout from Japan is reaching the U.S. quickly.

Though California is somewhat on the ball regarding testing for radiation in foods, other states appear to be asleep at the switch with this issue.

Yet broad-leaf vegetables including spinach and kale are accumulating radiation from rain and dust.

Some spinach, arugula and wild-harvested mushrooms have tested positive for cesium 134 and 137 according to UCB, as have strawberries.


According to the U.S.-based group of medical doctors, Physicians for Social Responsibility (PSR), no amount of man-made radiation in water and food is safe. “There is no safe level of radionuclide exposure, whether from food, water or other sources, period,” said Jeff Patterson, DO, immediate past president of PSR, in late March. “Exposure to radionuclides, such as iodine 131 and cesium 137, increases the incidence of cancer. For this reason, every effort must be taken to minimize the radionuclide content in food and water.”

Doctor Alan Lockwood MD echoes this. “Consuming food containing radionuclides is particularly dangerous. If an individual ingests or inhales a radioactive particle, it continues to irradiate the body as long as it remains radioactive and stays in the body.”

“Children are much more susceptible to the effects of radiation and stand a much greater chance of developing cancer than adults,” states Andrew Kanter, MD, president of PSR’s board. “So it is particularly dangerous when they consume radioactive food or water.”

Should you panic about this? No. That will do no good.

But you can call, write and email your congressperson, your senator, and any other elected officials in your district, ask them to push for testing of foods and water in your area, and tell them to take the threat of global nuclear fallout seriously.

For while none of the 104 nuclear power plants in the U.S. are melting down at present, we have had our own nuclear accidents. Remember Three Mile Island (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/three-mile-island.htm#r_src=ramp)?

Radiation has made its way to the American dinner table. This is a time to speak out, and to put pressure on policy makers. Clearly, it’s far better to be politically active now than radioactive tomorrow.

Chris Kilham is a medicine hunter who researches natural remedies all over the world, from the Amazon to Siberia. He teaches ethnobotany at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, where he is Explorer In Residence. Chris advises herbal, cosmetic and pharmaceutical companies and is a regular guest on radio and TV programs worldwide. His field research is largely sponsored by Naturex of Avignon, France (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/france.htm#r_src=ramp).

Read more at www.MedicineHunter.com (http://www.medicinehunter.com/)

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/06/29/radiation-in-our-food/#ixzz1QiTM67Xj


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Had your French Green Clay, Magnesium enhancing Glutathione, and Baking Soda capsules t'day? This stuff doesn't "wash off" exterior of veggies...it replaces vita-nutrients within the food/veggies' cell structures.... according to material posted higher up in this forum.


beefsteak

Golden
29th June 2011, 08:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93T8WdtjWE0&feature=channel_video_title

This is his channel.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_pPAtAXcCU

Serpo
30th June 2011, 12:54 AM
http://www.digitalglobe.com/downloads/featured_images/us_fortcalhoun_npp_june28_2011_dg.jpg

Serpo
30th June 2011, 01:18 AM
Nuclear materials expert: Los Alamos lab is potentially vulnerable to this wildfire — “Just hope to hell that the wind blows in the right direction”
June 29th, 2011 at 10:24 PM


Q&A: Is New Mexico’s Los Alamos National Laboratory Really Safe?, Time.com, …Read More

62 comments
TEPCO having trouble injecting nitrogen to avoid explosion at Reactor No. 3 — Expert concerned about possible explosion at No. 3
June 29th, 2011 at 09:37 PM


Hose leak again halts water unit, Kyodo, June 30, 2011:

[...] …Read More

27 comments


Fox News: “U.S. is receiving a steady flow of radiation from Fukushima” — Media paying little attention to radiation in food, as if problem only involves Japan
June 29th, 2011 at 08:40 PM


Radiation in Our Food, Fox News by Chris Kilham, June 29, …Read More

58 comments
Time.com: Is Los Alamos Lab really safe from wildfire? — Additional plutonium problems?
June 29th, 2011 at 07:13 PM


Q&A: Is New Mexico’s Los Alamos National Laboratory Really Safe?, Time.com, …Read More

54 comments
“Very high concentrations” of hot particles in Pacific NW during April, May — Includes plutonium and americium (AUDIO)
June 29th, 2011 at 06:11 PM


Arnold Gundersen with the latest on the Fukushima meltdowns, Interview by …Read More

55 comments
Gundersen: Water boiling up from hole in floor at Unit No. 1 (AUDIO)
June 29th, 2011 at 05:48 PM


There is a picture of scalding hot water boiling up through a hole in the floor at Unit No. 1… that room was 400 rem per hour, lethal in one hour. …Read More

8 comments
Local ABC News: 10 mile evacuation around Ft. Calhoun nuke plant (VIDEO)
June 29th, 2011 at 04:42 PM


“Jaczko says even though there was a 10 mile evacuation around the plant, there is no immediate threat to the plants reactor.” …Read More

29 comments
CNN: Floodwaters closing in on Ft. Calhoun nuclear plant — Officials concerned about deep water around facility
June 29th, 2011 at 03:12 PM


Flood Waters Close in on Nuclear Power Plant in Nebraska, CNN, …Read More

35 comments
Wildfire expected to grow “indefinitely” — Firefighters said yesterday was a “make or break day” but fire has refused to be tamed
June 29th, 2011 at 01:11 PM


Las Conchas Fire Now 3 Percent Contained, Albuquerque Journal, June 29, …Read More

43 comments
Fire Chief at Los Alamos: “God I hope not… God I hope not” — “I seriously think it will be up to 100,000 acres”
June 29th, 2011 at 11:18 AM


Wildfire closes in on Los Alamos, CBS/AP, June 29, 2011:

[...] …Read More

49 comments
Concern that drums filled with plutonium-contaminated waste at Los Alamos could burst from fire’s heat
June 29th, 2011 at 10:25 AM


Los Alamos National Laboratory managers see little threat from wildfire, Los …Read More

42 comments
The world must be thinking “What on earth is wrong with Japan? Where’s the sense of crisis?” — Why isn’t our government protecting us, asks daycare center founder
June 29th, 2011 at 09:12 AM


Japan’s radiation dilemma: Leave or live in fear, CBS, June 28, …Read More

76 comments
Residents worried about radioactive smoke plume if fire reaches radioactive waste: “If it gets to this contamination, it’s over — not just for Los Alamos, but for Santa Fe”
June 29th, 2011 at 08:30 AM


Towns near NM fire, nuclear lab wary of smoke, AP, June …Read More

19 comments
High potential for “major calamity” at Los Alamos if fire reaches 20,000 barrels of nuclear waste in fabric-type building, says former top security official
June 29th, 2011 at 07:47 AM


Los Alamos Fire: EPA Testing for Radiation, ABC news. June 28, …Read More

24 comments
Chief: “We have fire all around the lab – It’s a road away” — “Zero percent containment”
June 29th, 2011 at 01:08 AM


UPDATE 3-Los Alamos scurries to protect nuclear lab from fire, Reuters, …Read More

51 comments
Gundersen: Intake Structure that cools reactor and spent fuel pool is probably most vulnerable part of Ft. Calhoun nuke plan — Critical that it stays dry (VIDEO)
June 28th, 2011 at 06:26 PM


Arnie Gundersen on Five O’clock Shadow with Robert Knight, WBAI, June …Read More

104 comments
Local TV: Water has leaked into building containing radioactive material at Ft. Calhoun nuke plant — “That water we treat as radioactive waste” (VIDEO)
June 28th, 2011 at 05:05 PM


NRC Chairman says nuke plants safe, for now, Action 3 News, …Read More

36 comments
Report: Radioactive tritium very close to Los Alamos fire, about half a mile away — Lab would be the last to tell you if there was a serious problem (VIDEO)
June 28th, 2011 at 04:24 PM


Wildfire near Los Alamos triggers air monitoring, AP, June 28, 2011:

…Read More

23 comments
Cooling pump fails at New Jersey nuclear reactor, plant shut down — Remains in ‘hot shutdown’
June 28th, 2011 at 01:27 PM


Salem Unit 2 nuclear reactor shuts down after cooling pump failure, …Read More

120 comments
Japan ‘discovers’ tons of radioactive water have been leaking into ground at Fukushima
June 28th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
http://enenews.com/

Radioactive water leaks from Japan’s damaged plant, Reuters, June 28, 2011:

Serpo
30th June 2011, 01:23 AM
30 to 50 years to clean up Fukushima



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owVmInVlQRU&feature=player_embedded

gunDriller
30th June 2011, 06:01 AM
from earlier in the month, with one specific sentence i didn't notice before -

Plutonium found outside Fukushima plant

"Minute amounts of plutonium have been detected for the first time in soil outside the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

Shinzo Kimura of Hokkaido University collected the roadside samples in Okumamachi, some 1.7 kilometers west of the front gate of the power station. They were taken during filming by NHK on April 21st, one day before the area was designated as an exclusion zone.

Professor Masayoshi Yamamoto and researchers at a Kanazawa University laboratory analyzed the samples and found minute amounts of 3 kinds of plutonium.

The samples of plutonium-239 and 240 make up a total of 0.078 becquerels per kilogram.

This is close to the amount produced by past atomic bomb tests.

But the 3 substances are most likely to have come from the plant blasts, as their density ratio is different from those detected in the past.

Professor Yamamoto said the quantities are so minute that people's health will not be harmed.

But he recommended that the contamination near the plant should be fully investigated, saying that a study may shed light on how radioactive materials spread in the air.

Sunday, June 05, 2011 23:21 +0900 (JST)

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/05_21.html

link goes to Japan paper home page - i couldn't find a link for the specific article - an effective way to bury stories. the article mentions plutonium, but if you search for plutonium on their website using their search engine - zero hits.

given that it only takes 1 microgram of plutonium to end a human life, Prof. Yamamoto either found a trillionth of a gram - or his academic standing is being used to put a stamp of authority on the cover-up.

beefsteak
30th June 2011, 09:57 AM
The audio interview with Dr. Caldicott and Nuke Engineer/Nuke Plant Operator in years' past, contains some rather startling ADDITIONAL radionuclide listings of airborne "other isotopes" which have made it to USA. Polonium being one of them. Americum is another.

INTERVIEW HERE: (59:00mins) http://ifyoulovethisplanet.org/?p=4603

If that Polonium radionuclide sounds familiar, it was the one which Russia used to poison Alexander Litvinenko (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Litvinenko) a former officer of the Russian Federal Security Service (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Security_Service_%28Russia%29), FSB and KGB, who escaped prosecution in Russia and received political asylum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_asylum) in the United Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom). He wrote two books, "Blowing up Russia: Terror from within (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowing_up_Russia:_Terror_from_within)" and "Lubyanka Criminal Group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubyanka_Criminal_Group)", where he accused the Russian secret services of staging Russian apartment bombings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings) and other terrorism acts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_state_terrorism_by_Russia) to bring Vladimir Putin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin) to power. He died within a few days of being deliberately targeted and injected. Between the 15:20 mark and the 29:00 mark.

Polonium's most stable isotope (http://education.jlab.org/glossary/isotope.html), polonium-209, has a half-life (http://education.jlab.org/glossary/halflife.html) of 102 years. It decays into lead (http://education.jlab.org/itselemental/ele082.html)-205 through alpha decay (http://education.jlab.org/glossary/alphadecay.html). Polonium-209 is available from Oak Ridge National Laboratory (http://www.ornl.gov/) at the cost of about $3200 per microcurie.
It can only be made in a nuclear reactor.

Americum has a half-life of 141 years. And minute amounts are what make smoke detectors in our homes/offices "work" according to Wiki.

A very sobering S O B E R I N G interview by Arnie. We are schroomed. All of us.


beefsteak

keehah
30th June 2011, 03:50 PM
Let it out, he will no longer be contained. An epic nuclear rant!

Warning: may contain some swearing.

knucklz.com/2011/06/29/nuclear-alert-meltdown-nightmare-wake-the-fck-up-americans.aspx (http://knucklz.com/2011/06/29/nuclear-alert-meltdown-nightmare-wake-the-fck-up-americans.aspx)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gs9531UCsM
[Edit: A rant on the general state of apathy regarding the increasing immediate threats from radiation in the environment -triggered by the three breaking nuclear incidents in the US right now.

The best part is the building intensity. Several times I thought 'he can't keep that up' and he steps it up a notch!]

beefsteak
30th June 2011, 05:32 PM
Hi, Keehah,
Visceral anger is understandable, as it MUST be felt upon some level when a personal awakening occurs after betrayal is unmasked, yes?

However, I DO appreciate the "expletive" warning, and will simply trust you or others to hit the high spots for me. Looking forward to your summary.

At some point, at least for the wife and I, our anger turns to sadness and then back to anger and then to hopelessness, and back to whatever other stages of grief there are. Acceptance will not ever be a stage I believe, personally, I'll ever achieve.

If I ever wonder where the "anger went...." I just visualize TPTB watching us like heated amoeba under a microscope similar to that which I remember in my first biology college class. Our assignment was to gather pond water, and then examine a drop of it on a slide, for single cell organisms. Then, IF we found any, we were to draw them and turn them in for completion of the assignment.

My anger re-emerges as that is the level of amoebic consideration for human life perspective from which these scum of the earth view and regard us all, irrespective of gender, religion, ethnicity, stature or contributors to the whole of humankind.


Thanks for posting again. You always bring unique and valuable "non-USA" perspective from your perch--France is it?

beefsteak

keehah
30th June 2011, 06:04 PM
I'm just a little ways North West of Seattle. But the place comes with a moat and a Queen. Neither makes a difference.

If geography had anything to do with it, it would be living in the Arctic as a kid. Now too much seems to be 'going south.' :)

And thank you Beefsteak, especially your contributions to this thread!

Speaking of the stages, I always was warm to the concept that Vehemence comes with Acceptance if one is still alive. Forcefullness and acceptance both. This shares structure with the concept of a life of Yang and Yin in a life of desired balance.

beefsteak
30th June 2011, 06:14 PM
Revealed: British government's plan to play down Fukushima

Internal emails seen by Guardian show PR campaign was launched to protect UK nuclear plans after tsunami in Japan
Rob Edwards (http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/rob-edwards)

guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/), Thursday 30 June 2011 21.36 BST
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jun/30/british-government-plan-play-down-fukushima#history-link-box)
Government officials launched a PR campaign to ensure the accident at the Fukushima nuclear facility in Japan did not derail plans for new nuclear power stations in the UK.

(AP)British government officials approached nuclear companies to draw up a co-ordinated public relations strategy to play down the Fukushima nuclear accident just two days after the earthquake and tsunami in Japan (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/japan) and before the extent of the radiation leak was known.



Internal emails seen by the Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/interactive/2011/jun/30/email-nuclear-uk-government-fukushima) show how the business and energy (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/energy) departments worked closely behind the scenes with the multinational companies EDF Energy (http://www.edfenergy.com/), Areva (http://www.areva.com/) and Westinghouse (http://www.westinghousenuclear.com/) to try to ensure the accident did not derail their plans for a new generation of nuclear stations in the UK.


"This has the potential to set the nuclear industry back globally," wrote one official at the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills (BIS) (http://www.bis.gov.uk/), whose name has been redacted. "We need to ensure the anti-nuclear chaps and chapesses do not gain ground on this. We need to occupy the territory and hold it. We really need to show the safety of nuclear."


Officials stressed the importance of preventing the incident from undermining public support for nuclear power (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/nuclearpower).
The Conservative MP Zac Goldsmith (http://www.zacgoldsmith.com/), who sits on the Commons environmental audit committee, condemned the extent of co-ordination between the government and nuclear companies that the emails appear to reveal.


"The government has no business doing PR for the industry and it would be appalling if its departments have played down the impact of Fukushima," he said.


Louise Hutchins, a spokeswoman for Greenpeace, said the emails looked like "scandalous collusion". "This highlights the government's blind obsession with nuclear power and shows neither they, nor the industry, can be trusted when it comes to nuclear," she said.


The Fukushima accident, triggered by the Japan earthquake and tsunami on 11 March (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/japan-earthquake-and-tsunami), has forced 80,000 people from their homes. Opinion polls suggest it has dented public support (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/damian-carrington-blog/2011/jun/23/nuclearpower-nuclear-waste) for nuclear power in Britain and around the world (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/may/29/nuclear-power-loses-appeal-japan), with the governments of Germany (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/30/germany-pledges-nuclear-shutdown-2022), Italy (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/13/berlusconi-nuclear-power), Switzerland, Thailand and Malaysia cancelling planned nuclear power stations in the wake of the accident.


The business department emailed the nuclear firms and their representative body, the Nuclear Industry Association (NIA) (http://www.niauk.org/), on 13 March, two days after the disaster knocked out nuclear plants and their backup safety systems at Fukushima. The department argued it was not as bad as the "dramatic" TV pictures made it look, even though the consequences of the accident were still unfolding (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/16/japan-nuclear-emergency-timeline) and two major explosions at reactors on the site (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/15/japan-nuclear-plant-third-explosion) were yet to happen.

"Radiation released has been controlled – the reactor has been protected," said the BIS official, whose name has been blacked out. "It is all part of the safety systems to control and manage a situation like this."


The official suggested that if companies sent in their comments, they could be incorporated into briefs to ministers and government statements. "We need to all be working from the same material to get the message through to the media and the public.


"Anti-nuclear people across Europe have wasted no time blurring this all into Chernobyl and the works," the official told Areva. "We need to quash any stories trying to compare this to Chernobyl."


Japanese officials initially rated the Fukushima accident as level four on the international nuclear event scale, meaning it had "local consequences". But it was raised to level seven (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/12/japan-nuclear-crisis-chernobyl-severity-level1) on 11 April, officially making it a major accident" (http://www-ns.iaea.org/tech-areas/emergency/ines.asp) and putting it on a par with Chernobyl in 1986.


The Department for En (http://www.decc.gov.uk/)
ergy and Climate Change (DECC) (http://www.decc.gov.uk/) has released more than 80 emails sent in the weeks after Fukushima in response to requests under freedom of information legislation. They also show:
• Westinghouse said reported remarks on the cost of new nuclear power stations by the deputy prime minister, Nick Clegg, were "unhelpful and a little premature".


• The company admitted its new reactor, AP1000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AP1000), "was not designed for earthquakes [of] the magnitude of the earthquake in Japan", and would need to be modified for seismic areas such as Japan and California.


• The head of the DECC's office for nuclear development (http://www.decc.gov.uk/en/content/cms/meeting_energy/nuclear/new/office/office.aspx), Mark Higson, asked EDF to welcome the expected announcement of a safety review by the energy secretary, Chris Huhne (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/chrishuhne), and added: "Not sure if EDF unilaterally asking for a review is wise. Might set off a bidding war."


• EDF promised to be "sensitive" to how remediation work at a UK nuclear site "might be seen in the light of events in Japan".


• It also requested that ministers did not delay approval for a new radioactive waste store at the Sizewell nuclear site in Suffolk (http://www.british-energy.com/pagetemplate.php?pid=96), but accepting there was a "potential risk of judicial review".


•  The BIS warned it needed "a good industry response showing the safety of nuclear – otherwise it could have adverse consequences on the market".


On 7 April, the office for nuclear development invited companies to attend a meeting at the NIA's headquarters in London. The aim was "to discuss a joint communications and engagement strategy aimed at ensuring we maintain confidence among the British public on the safety of nuclear power stations and nuclear new-build policy in light of recent events at the Fukushima nuclear power plant".


Other documents released by the government's safety watchdog, the office for nuclear regulation (http://www.hse.gov.uk/nuclear/news/2011/feb-statement.htm), reveal that the text of an announcement on 5 April about the impact of Fukushima on the new nuclear programme was privately cleared with nuclear industry representatives at a meeting the previous week. According to one former regulator, who preferred not to be named, the degree of collusion was "truly shocking".


A spokesman for the DECC and BIS said: "Given the unprecedented events unfolding in Japan, it was appropriate to share information with key stakeholders, particularly those involved in operating nuclear sites. The government was very clear from the outset that it was important not to rush to judgment and that a response should be based on hard evidence. This is why we called on the chief nuclear inspector, Dr Mike Weightman, to provide a robust and evidence-based report."


A DECC source played down the significance of the emails from the unnamed BIS official, saying: "The junior BIS official was not responsible for nuclear policy and his views were irrelevant to ministers' decisions in the aftermath of the Japanese earthquake."


Tom Burke (http://www.e3g.org/about/Tom-Burke/), a former government environmental adviser and visiting professor at Imperial College London, warned that the British government was repeating mistakes made in Japan. "They are too close to industry, concealing problems, rather than revealing and dealing with them," he said.


"I would be much more reassured if DECC had been worrying about how the government would cope with the $200m-$300m of liabilities from a catastrophic nuclear accident in Britain."
The government last week confirmed plans for eight new nuclear stations (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jun/23/nuclear-power-plant-sites-released) in England and Wales. "If acceptable proposals come forward in appropriate places, they will not face unnecessary holdups," said the energy minister, Charles Hendry.


The NIA did not comment directly on the emails. "We are funded by our member companies to represent their commercial interests and further the compelling case for new nuclear build in the UK," said the association's spokesman.
"We welcome the interim findings of the independent regulator, Dr Mike Weightman, who has reported back to government that UK nuclear reactors are safe."


=================


Commentary:


May I remind this forum that Nuke Eng Arnie Gunderson just never "quite made it back to discussing the secretive AREVA report" from a high level consortium held only a couple weeks post 3/11 --Fukushima disaster/post explosions-- referenced above. I believe that one was held in Vegas, or Phoenix, some place in USA's southwestern states.



Always wondered why...
...could this UK leaked communiques have a bearing on the answer to our collective observation of this twice promised but never further discussed AREVA conference?




beefsteak

gunDriller
1st July 2011, 06:03 AM
i had to check out the NRC, Nuclear Regulatory Commission -

http://www.nrc.gov/about-nrc/organization/commfuncdesc.html

http://www.nrc.gov/about-nrc/organization.html

http://www.nrc.gov/about-nrc/organization/commfuncdesc.html

org-chart, can be downloaded, *.pdf ~
http://www.nrc.gov/about-nrc/organization/nrcorg.pdf

http://www.nrc.gov/about-nrc/organization/opafuncdesc.html


i would like to find NRC org charts from the '60's & '70's, when a lot of the terrible decisions that are haunting us today were made. who helmed the NRC then ?

obviously someone who could be counted on to cover-up when Israel stole about 100 pounds of weapons-grade uranium.

beefsteak
1st July 2011, 03:38 PM
Any tea growers on the west coast, USA?

Good God Above...how blatant and brainwashed ARE the Japanese parents over there?


Thursday, June 30, 2011

2,700 Becquerels/Kg Cesium from Teas Picked by Elementary School Children in Itabashi, Tokyo (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/06/2700-becquerelskg-cesium-from-teas.html)

Children from 3 public elementary schools in Itabashi-ku in Tokyo did the tea picking in early May, the tea leaves were roasted and made into the final blend tea and was about to be given to the children. For some reason, the municipal officials decided to test the tea, and found radioactive cesium to the tune of 2,700 becquerels/kilogram, more than 5 times the loose national provisional safety limit of 500 becquerels/kilogram. {{Is "loose" the new euphemism for "adjustable per govt whim...." }}

The public elementary schools and junior high schools in Itabashi are run by the Itabashi Board of Education. There are 53 elementary schools in Itabashi.

From Sankei Shinbun (http://sankei.jp.msn.com/region/news/110630/tky11063021040009-n1.htm) (6/30/2011):
Itabashi-ku (special ward) in Tokyo announced on June 30 2011, that 2,700 becquerels/kilogram of radioactive cesium were detected in the final blend tea grown and processed in Itabashi, exceeding the national provisional safety limit of 500 becquerels/kilogram.

The tea farm is not a commercial operation but for people to experience how it is like to pick tea leaves. The final blend tea was made from the tea leaves picked by elementary school pupils. There is no other farm that produces and ships tea in Itabashi-ku.

In response, the Tokyo Metropolitan government has decided to test radioactive materials in 5 types of vegetables produced in Itabashi-ku and Nerima-ku.
 
According to Itabashi-ku, 300 pupils from 3 public elementary schools picked the first-pick tea ("ichiban-cha") on May 9, from which 20 kilograms of the final blend tea was made and ready on June 15. Before giving it to the pupils, Itabashi-ku tested the tea for radioactive materials to ascertain the safety.

There was no radioactive iodine detected, and the amount of radioactive cesium in the second-pick tea was below the provisional limit.

Itabashi-ku plans to dispose the entire tea without giving it to the pupils, and says "there is no effect on health by having them pick tea leaves." {{Oh, so little kids have teflon fingers, noses, and toesies, eh? ? ? Wonder how many little fingers scratched little eyes, ears, picked their noses, or "tasted" one...they ARE children after all!!!}}

The famous last word in Japan since March 11, "There is no effect on health." At least, an increasing number of Japanese people now know that it simply means "there is no immediate effect on health."


According to the Itabashi-ku official website (http://www.city.itabashi.tokyo.jp/c_oshirase/037/037451.html),

cesium-134 was detected at 1,300 becquerels/kilogram, and cesium-137 was detected at 1,400 becquerels/kilogram.

CONTRIBUTING BLOGGER adds:
I wonder how they are going to dispose the tea, though. I hope they just don't throw it in the garbage that gets sent to the waste disposal plant in Itabashi, which then burns the tea in the ordinary incinerator and spread cesium in the neighborhood. {{First mention I've ever heard of concerns being voiced "over there" regarding "disposal"...}}

====================

COMMENTARY:

Disposal? ? ?

How about the radiation already released by "roasting it first? ? ? ?"
Talk about "hot particles...."

As far as "disposal is concerned"....it needs to be ashed, and then
containerized and buried for.....30.17 years minimum...just for it to be 1/2 as radioactive as it is now! Then 30.17 years after THAT date, it will only be half of THAT number of bq's.

That gives the govt time to "adjust the provisional limit to another higher number northward of 500bqs" since it will only be 1,335 bqs in 30.17 years...then at that point, you get another 30.17 years for it to STILL BE TOO DARNED HOT TO HANDLE...as it will be 717.5bqs....so, let's see, by 2101, it will be "below current provisional limits"...

Oh, that is only for 1 day's worth of cesium radioactivity...the good news is, there will be more cesium 134 and 137 tomorrow...and more tomorrows!!!!!!!!!!!

Who's going to be around to tell MY great grand children that the English Tea tradition handed down in my family is no longer "okay?"
I sure won't be around in 2101!!!!!!!!!!!

PARENTS: It's Post 3/11. Do you know where your tea is?

Those "school admins" should be hung from the nearest yardarm!


beefsteak

oldmansmith
1st July 2011, 04:06 PM
Well I'll keep buying Gulf of Maine kelp for sure. Glad to see all this on the MSM...lol.

beefsteak
1st July 2011, 04:34 PM
Understood, Oldmansmith.

Got a link for forum members/checkers to a source / seller for Gulf of Maine Kelp? Do they grow any tea up there?

EDIT: Just discovered a delightful 6 min vid or what the wife and I call "mini-vacations" this time to an actual East Maine Gulf kelp tidal pools while the tide is at a "minus 2 foot" reading before the flood tide comes back in. Taken at 7AM EDT, take a look and learn.

How refreshing! Thanks, oldmansmith for the headszup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a1HucWh6bghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a1HucWh6bg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a1HucWh6bg

beefsteak
1st July 2011, 05:12 PM
Interesting that we here in USA are watching the slow motion destruction of our Heartland, even with thinking people, the internet connectivity among millions here, and warnings from the esteemed Michio Kaku and others, w/r/t Fukushima in slow motion, ala Ft Calhoun.

GET OUT OF THERE DOWNWINDERS!!! Whatzamatterwidchu?



http://watch.pair.com/nuclear-plants-dams.jpg

www.projectworldawareness.com/2011/06/underwater-nuclear-disaster-underway-in-midwest/ (http://www.projectworldawareness.com/2011/06/underwater-nuclear-disaster-underway-in-midwest/)

beefsteak
1st July 2011, 05:20 PM
http://watch.pair.com/missouri-river-basin-map.jpg

© www.extremeinstability.com




"Fukushima 7" ?

Dogman
1st July 2011, 05:27 PM
Maybe the wrong state , but what the hay!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWLw7nozO_U

beefsteak
1st July 2011, 06:30 PM
More TEPCO transparency, or "where have we heard this before? ? ?"


TEPCO starts system to cool another spent fuel pool at nuclear plant

TOKYO (Kyodo) -- Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Thursday , JUNE 30, 2011 that it had activated a water circulation system to stably cool another spent nuclear fuel pool at the crisis-hit Fukushima Daiichi atomic power plant, while also starting to transfer relatively low-level radioactive water at the plant to an artificial floating island called a megafloat.

The plant operator is hoping to efficiently cool the spent fuel pool of the No. 3 unit, having started a similar cooling system for the No. 2 unit's pool.

The utility known as TEPCO is trying to contain the world's worst nuclear crisis since the 1986 Chernobyl disaster, in line with a road map that aims to stabilize by January the plant's reactors and spent fuel pools, which lost their key cooling functions in the wake of the massive March 11 earthquake and tsunami.

TEPCO is seeking to operate similar systems for the Nos. 1 and 4 units by July.

The remaining Nos. 5 and 6 units at the six-reactor Fukushima plant achieved a stable condition called cold shutdown in the early days of the crisis.

As for the steel megafloat, which is berthed at a quay near the plant, about 8,000 tons of low-level radioactive water will be transferred over the next three or four months. The government's nuclear safety agency said TEPCO has not yet decided what to do with the water after it is transferred, but it will not be directly dumped into the sea. :o *sarc*

The water comes from the Nos. 5 and 6 reactor turbine buildings and a large part of it is believed to be seawater left inside the facilities after large tsunami waves hit the plant on the Pacific Coast in Fukushima Prefecture, as well as groundwater.

Dealing with the massive amount of water contaminated with various degrees of radioactive substances is a key part of the process to contain the ongoing nuclear crisis.

The megafloat is 136 meters long, 46 meters wide and 3 meters high, and was originally used in the city of Shizuoka as a platform for sea fishing. It can store around 10,000 tons of water.

TEPCO has been transferring the low-level radioactive water into makeshift storage tanks and has decided to use the megafloat because the tanks are becoming full.

Meanwhile, to reduce highly radioactive water produced in the process of cooling the crippled reactors at the plant, TEPCO is operating devices to remove radioactive substances from the polluted water and a system to recycle the decontaminated water as a coolant for the reactors.

But operation of the devices and the water circulation system, using technologies from various companies in and outside Japan, has been repeatedly suspended due to problems such as water leaks.

TEPCO spokesman Junichi Matsumoto told a press conference in the afternoon, "We are operating something we made for the first time, so some initial problems cannot be helped. It is important to accumulate experience."

To reinforce support for workers involved in restoration efforts, the government and TEPCO announced the same day that a doctor who specializes in emergency treatment for radiation exposure will be stationed at the Fukushima plant from Friday, July 1, 2011.

TEPCO has revised down the total number of workers at the power plant found to have been exposed to radiation above the maximum allowable limit of 250 millisieverts from nine to seven, the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare said Thursday.

It said the utility has reported to the ministry that two of the nine workers were found not to have been exposed to radiation above the limit after more detailed medical examinations.

(Mainichi -Japan) July 1, 2011


===========================

A show of hands?



How many believe in the possibility that there will be an "oopsie" on the way to the mega float? ? ?

beefsteak
1st July 2011, 06:52 PM
http://enenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/areag.jpg Yep, reeeeal secure there? And this is just one of the "UNCOUNTED" nuke sites in the USA...truth be told, the number is truly 141 + Los Alamos....

Yup, 141 of 'em.


Report: Up to 30,000 drums of plutonium-contaminated waste stored in fabric tents above ground at Los Alamos dumpsite — Lab declines to comment (http://enenews.com/report-30000-drums-plutonium-contaminated-waste-stored-fabric-tents-above-ground-los-alamos-lab-comment)
DATELINE: June 27, 2011
============


AP: Los Alamos officials now confirming that drums of plutonium-contaminated waste are stored above ground at ‘Area G’ (http://enenews.com/los-alamos-officials-confirm-drums-plutonium-contaminated-waste-area-fabric-tents-above-ground)
DATELINE: June 28, 2011
==============


Concern that drums filled with plutonium-contaminated waste at Los Alamos could burst from fire’s heat (http://enenews.com/concern-that-drums-filled-with-plutonium-contaminated-waste-at-los-alamos-could-burst-from-fires-heat)
DATELINE: June 29, 2011
===================


High potential for “major calamity” at Los Alamos if fire reaches 20,000 barrels of nuclear waste in fabric-type building, says former top security official (http://enenews.com/high-potential-for-major-calamity-at-los-alamos-if-fire-reaches-20000-barrels-of-nuclear-waste-in-fabric-type-building-says-former-top-security-official)
DATELINE: June 29, 2011

* obviously the 30,000 barrels was too scary, so Los Alamos "lost 10,000 barrels" on a "re-count" *sarc* ? ? ?
================


As of this morning, (6/30/2011) flames just two miles away from plutonium-contaminated waste at Los Alamos — Barrels are not well contained says former top official (http://enenews.com/morning-flames-miles-away-plutonium-contaminated-waste-los-alamos-barrels-contained-former-top-official)
DATELINE: June 30, 2011
================


Brian Williams--NBC Nightly News 2Min 15 sec sound/video byte segment on "Worry..."
http://enenews.com/photo-barrels-plutonium-waste-inside-plastic-tent-los-alamos-area-when-assure-worry-about-id-be-worried-former-doe-official-video

keehah
1st July 2011, 06:58 PM
http://enenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/areag.jpg

So this is how the government stores plutonium-contaminated waste?

Building codes require the average American to build better storage for their garden tools.

beefsteak
2nd July 2011, 06:32 AM
OLD STYLE DEATH STORAGE vs NEW AND IMPROVED DEATH STORAGE

Yeppers...Japan's got NOTHIN' on us......... Truth be told, this is probably the ONLY one pretty enough to photograph. At least at the Umatilla Oregon (Columbia River) Mustard Gas storage base, those canisters are buried in bunkers, mounds and mounds and miles and miles of bunkers...which one can see from the highway according to various web reporters.


Umatilla Weapons Depot

By APNewsNow Published: Nov 14, 2009 at 2:22 PM PDT

http://media.katu.com/images/070327umatilla.jpg

versus

Los Alamos Plutonium Waste Storage
http://enenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/areag.jpg

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....I feel sooOOOOOoooo much safer now.......

oldmansmith
2nd July 2011, 01:22 PM
Understood, Oldmansmith.

Got a link for forum members/checkers to a source / seller for Gulf of Maine Kelp? Do they grow any tea up there?

EDIT: Just discovered a delightful 6 min vid or what the wife and I call "mini-vacations" this time to an actual East Maine Gulf kelp tidal pools while the tide is at a "minus 2 foot" reading before the flood tide comes back in. Taken at 7AM EDT, take a look and learn.

How refreshing! Thanks, oldmansmith for the headszup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a1HucWh6bghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a1HucWh6bg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a1HucWh6bg

I buy mine at the food coop 20 minutes away. It is a bit rubbery and salty, but I like how it tastes and eat it right out of the package. Mrs. Old is a bit more refined and I have to mix it in with sauteed onions and then steamed kale/collards/broccoli from the garden with soy sauce.

beefsteak
2nd July 2011, 04:56 PM
Do you know if that coop does "mail order fulfillment?" Could you inquire for us? THANKS!!!

gunDriller
2nd July 2011, 05:04 PM
would you know about how many milligrams? whats the difference between iodine and potassium iodine? i understand that you want the thyroid saturated that way it dosnt want to absorb the isotopes in your environment. someone has to be tracking the radioactive cloud now, right??? i'm here in wyoming , how much disipates into the atmosphere??

the dose for treating radiation exposure is 130 mg for an adult.

a typical multivitamin has 115 micrograms.

the side effects of the 130 mg dose of KI are VERY heavy duty - nausea & vomiting, diarrhea & general intestinal distress, and acne.

there are a lot of other things you can do to limit your radiation exposure so that you don't need the Potassium Iodide. e.g. limiting your milk consumption to milk packaged before March 11, 2011, or maybe before March 31, 2011.

With Walmart Great Value Milk, that means an use-by date of March 11, 2012, or sooner.

With Carnation Evaporated Milk, it's 15 months, so an use by date of June 11, 2012, or sooner, would mean it was packaged March 11, 2011, or sooner.

Cheddar Cheese, for example, Tillamook says, "aged 10 months" - so if you buy it today, and it is fresh off the production line, it would have been made about September 2, 2010 ... pre-Fukushima.


I appreciate the desire to make sure you don't get hurt by the radiation - and not trusting the government to tell you about the extent of the radiation.

But if you do take the KI ... I wouldn't plan on doing much else during those 8 days or whatever time regimen that you use.

beefsteak
2nd July 2011, 05:05 PM
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/static/pictures/resized/136-106/51/51622.jpg
Published: 06/28/11,

Los Alamos Evacuated; Fire Crews Concentrate on Nuclear Lab
by Aryeh Ben Hayim :o


Los Alamos National Laboratory is indelibly etched in historical memory as the hatching site of the Manhattan Project, the effort which created the first atomic bomb. The world's largest nuclear weapons arsenal is still located there.:o:o:o Now a raging wildfire has forced the evacuation of the surrounding town of Los Alamos (population 12,000)...

Given the recent Japanese disaster at Fukushima (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/143508), the fear of course is that a natural disaster can morph into a nuclear one. Firefighters are therefore concentrating on keeping the blaze out of the laboratory. "If it spots on the lab, we'll get really aggressive about putting it out," Los Alamos Fire Chief Doug Tucker said.

The lab itself has been closed by the fire that began Sunday, June 26, 2011. This is not the first time that fire has devastated the area. More than a decade ago, hundreds of homes and buildings in the area were destroyed.{{ So THAT's why the Tents look so new housing the above ground plutonium waste....knew there HAD to be a logical reason....}}

Despite the natural apprehensions, officials assured that both the lab buildings as well as the nuclear waste dump sites were designed to withstand worse fires than the current one...
(IsraelNationalNews.com)
=====================


Frankly, I don't see how the fire rating on these "plutonium waste barrels" NOR THAT STUPID TENT could be all that "flame resistant"...

http://enenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/areag.jpg

beefsteak
2nd July 2011, 05:16 PM
Not saying the explosion isn't bad but the explosion is ground level and not high in the atmosphere like above ground atomic tests where the shyt is put into the jet stream. Now is the time to chem-trail the cloud and make it fallout as rain (over the freaking ocean and not wait until it's over land).

We now know the blasts were 5 KILOMETERS high, just for the record. And who says THAT isn't an understatement?

gunDriller
3rd July 2011, 06:03 AM
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/07/meltdown-what-really-happened-fukushima/39541/

great article about Fukushima.

workers are coming forward and talking about what they observed in the 45 minutes between the quake and the tsunami.

all Hell broke loose.

TEPCo didn't want to admit this because it means that all Japan quakes of that design & vintage are vulnerable.

anyway, the article talks a LOT about ... pipes, and broken pipes.

also about how, when they were building the plant, if 2 pipes didn't meet up, they used jacks and muscle to get them to bend so they could bolt them together.

plenty of stresses built into the structure in the 1970's, when it was built.

oldmansmith
3rd July 2011, 07:30 AM
Do you know if that coop does "mail order fulfillment?" Could you inquire for us? THANKS!!!

will do next week

Serpo
4th July 2011, 07:25 AM
How first 24 hours shaped Japan's nuclear crisis

FUKUSHIMA, Japan (AP) — When Unit 2 began to shake, Hiroyuki Kohno's first hunch was that something was wrong with the turbines. He paused for a moment, then went back to logging the day's radioactivity readings.

He expected it to pass. Until the shakes became jolts.

As sirens wailed, he ran to an open space, away from the walls, and raced down a long corridor with two colleagues. Parts of the ceiling fell around them. Outside, he found more pandemonium.

"People were shouting about a tsunami," he said. "At that point, I really thought I might die."

___

EDITOR'S NOTE: It was an ordinary Friday afternoon, and then the shaking began — harbinger of a nuclear nightmare that rages on, three months later. A moment-by-moment account of the crucial first 24 hours after an earthquake and tsunami devastated Japan's Fukushima Dai-ichi plant.

___

Breathless, Kohno climbed a small hill and turned to look back. Black plumes rose from the reactor units. The emergency generators, burning diesel, had kicked in.

He saw the wave. It crashed over the plant's seawall, stopping only when it reached the foot of the slope about 500 yards (460 meters) from where he stood.

Kohno watched, stunned.

Unit 2, one of six reactors at the Fukushima Dai-ichi power station, is ordinary by nuclear standards: a drab labyrinth of switches and valves, ladders and bulkheads, meters and gauges. That's how Kohno, a veteran radioactivity specialist, knew it.

Now, nothing about what he saw was normal.

Kohno kept moving.

The events of the next 24 hours brought the promise of nuclear power into question, both in Japan and around the world.

Through interviews with dozens of officials, workers and experts, and hundreds of pages of newly released documents, The Associated Press found the early response to the crisis was marked by confusion, inadequate preparation, a lack of forthrightness with the public and a reluctance to make quick decisions. These problems set the tone for the troubled recovery effort since.

___

On March 11, Prime Minister Naoto Kan was taking a beating in an Upper House committee meeting over whether he had taken campaign money from a foreign national, which is illegal in Japan.

The questioning stopped suddenly when the entire parliament building, a sprawling structure in the center of Tokyo, started to rock. It was 2:46 p.m. All eyes rose to the huge crystal chandeliers above, clinking and shaking violently.

"Everyone, please stay in a safe position," committee chairman Yosuke Tsuruho said, grasping the armrests of his upholstered velvet chair. "Please duck under your desk."

Within four minutes, a crisis headquarters was up and running across the street in the prime minister's office. Kan rushed there as soon as the shaking subsided. At 3:37 p.m. he convened a roundtable of his top advisers.

Soon after the tsunami hit, Kan's task force was deluged by reports of massive damage up and down the coast, aerial photos and video showing entire villages gone.

Kan, who majored in applied physics in college, was among the first whose attention went to the 40-year-old nuclear plant, according to Kenichi Shimomura, a senior aide who was with him. The prime minister demanded an assessment.

The plant's operator was in disarray. Phone calls to the utility, Tokyo Electric Power Co., or TEPCO, went unanswered, and what little information trickled out was conflicting. In those critical first hours, the government was flying blind.

TEPCO President Masataka Shimizu, who was traveling, boarded a military airlift from Nagoya after he heard the news. But the flight was turned around. The Defense Ministry bumped him to free up its planes for the emergency response.

Kan quietly repeated to himself what was by now in the back of everyone's mind: "This is going to be a disaster."

___

On that day, Team A, a crew of 13, including a trainee, was overseeing Units 1 and 2 in one control room. In another, a crew of nine was responsible for Units 3 and 4 . The latter, along with Units 5 and 6, was offline for maintenance.

The first news was good.

All three working reactors automatically came to an emergency shutdown when the shaking began. Within one minute, all control rods were inserted properly into the cores, stopping the nuclear reactions.

What came next changed everything.

The first wave hit the plant at 3:27 p.m. At 13 feet, it was easily blocked by the plant's breakwater, which stands 33 feet above sea level.

But the one that struck eight minutes later was off the scale.

It flowed up and over the barrier, washed over a 33-foot (10-meter) water tank and tossed passenger cars this way and that. Watermarks suggest the wave may have been as high as 50 feet (15 meters).

Team A watched, horrified, as the plant deteriorated by the minute. A detailed operator's log, along with a handwritten timeline on the control room whiteboard, showed how quickly the units failed.

"15"37' D/G 1B trip," said a scribbled notation indicating the Unit 1 diesel generator went out. It was 3:37 p.m., just two minutes after the second wave had struck.

Then: "SBO." Station Blackout. The power was out.

Four minutes later, at 3:41 p.m., Unit 2 lost power. Minutes after that, key instrument readings stopped.

In the dark, workers found a main power switchboard had been submerged and a main power line brought down by a mudslide. The basement of the Unit 1 turbine building was filled with water. Two workers would later be found drowned in the basement of another turbine room.

Exactly what was happening inside the reactors remained a mystery. At 3:50 p.m., Team A wrote: "Water levels unknown." If not replenished, the water in the core would boil away and the rods would melt.

Two minutes later, Team A added an even more dire note on Unit 2: "ECCS injection not possible." The emergency core cooling system, the last-ditch backup to keep the core from going dry, was down.

It was an hour after the tsunami, and Team A desperately requested emergency power vehicles. By the time they arrived and were hooked up, it would be too late.

___

Outside the control room, about 755 workers, including TEPCO employees and subcontractors, were on the premises.

Yuji Sato was on break in a lounge in a small building about 60 feet (20 meters) from Unit 1, when the quake hit. He had worked all morning on the turbines.

The quake broke the air conditioner and knocked the TV in the lounge off its stand. When the shaking stopped, Sato went outside. Concrete buildings had been heavily damaged, some walls reduced to rubble.

He and about 100 colleagues streamed up the hill behind the reactors. They walked.

"None of us were all that afraid. Japan is a nation of earthquakes. We are used to them," Sato said.

His brother-in-law, pump technician Yuta Tadano, was already up the hill in a second-story office at the time of the quake. A thin young man with pierced ears and long bangs, he worked for subcontractor Tokyo Energy and Systems Inc.

Tadano wanted to go home to check on his wife, Akane, and 4-month-old son, Shoma. His boss said he expected them back at work on Monday. With the utter devastation outside the gate, the normally 20-minute drive home took four hours.

For most of the next two months, no one would be allowed inside the reactor buildings.

Still, dozens of TEPCO workers — later dubbed with some poetic license the "Fukushima 50" — stayed on. Keiichi Kakuta was one. He remained in the plant's radiation-proof Emergency Crisis Headquarters, a big, windowless conference room about 300 yards from the Unit 2 reactor.

Although it meant leaving his family in Tokyo, Kakuta had jumped at the chance for a public affairs job with TEPCO in Fukushima three years ago. He had always admired the company's teamwork and looked forward to a new challenge.

He got the biggest of his life.

___

By late afternoon, Unit 1 was spiraling out of control, with its power and cooling systems down.

The heat from decaying radioactive elements in the fuel rods was growing. As the core overheated, it burned off its coolant water, exposing the 13-foot (4-meter) rods. In turn, steam from the evaporated water was building up inside the containment chamber.

As the heat and pressure rose, the uranium pellets inside the rods melted through their zirconium casings. When the zirconium reached 2,200 degrees Fahrenheit (1,200 Celsius), it reacted with the water, producing hydrogen.

This was obviously going to get worse before it got better.

Yukio Edano, the chief Cabinet spokesman, is the face of Japan's government. At 7:45 p.m., his job was to make an unprecedented statement to the nation — but make it sound routine and reassuring.

"We have declared a nuclear emergency," he said from behind a podium in the press conference room at the prime minister's office. "Let me repeat that there is no radiation leak, nor will there be a leak."

He was wrong. Recently released TEPCO documents reveal that radiation was detected at the plant perimeter at 5:30 p.m., but the utility apparently didn't fax those readings to the government until shortly after 9 p.m.

In the meantime, a two-mile (three-kilometer) evacuation zone around the plant was established. That later would become 6 miles (10 kilometers), then 12 (20). In the end, more than 80,000 people would be forced to flee.

Fukushima Dai-ichi's operators, meanwhile, were faced with a twofold response: Vent and flood. Venting to release pressure and prevent an explosion, flooding to keep things cool.

But venting would release radioactivity into the air. And flooding with seawater would ruin the equipment because of the salt.

Around 9 p.m., less than six hours after the tsunami, officials at the prime minister's office started to press TEPCO to vent. TEPCO hesitated.

Fukushima Dai-ichi was the utility's golden goose. Designed primarily by General Electric, it went online in 1971 and had kept the lights shining in Tokyo ever since. Unlike newer facilities, it was paid for, and it was generating profits with each megawatt it produced.

TEPCO knew that venting radioactivity would cast doubt on the safety of the nuclear industry around the nation, and the world. But the options were dwindling.

The outage of primary and backup power — a scenario that exceeded planners' precautions — was severely hampering operations.

The first emergency power vehicle sent by TEPCO got stuck in the chaotic post-tsunami traffic. A backup truck from another power company arrived at 11 p.m., but the cable it brought was too short to hook up.

At 3:05 a.m., Trade and Industry Minister Banri Kaieda trotted out TEPCO executive Akio Komori for a public announcement of the plan to vent the Unit 1 containment vessel. Seven minutes later, Edano took to the podium, this time to warn the public that the action would entail the release of radioactive isotopes. Again, he urged calm.

For those who knew what was happening, the urgency was mounting. The containment chamber around the core was bulging with pressure twice as high as its maximum operational limit and nearly matching the company's required venting standard.

"We kept telling TEPCO to do it quickly, asking how come it wasn't happening," Edano recalled later.

Nearly four hours after the initial announcement, an exasperated Kaieda ordered TEPCO to vent. It was 6:50 a.m.

Surging radiation forced workers to abort their attempt to open the valves manually. Then they tried to open them remotely and repeatedly failed, probably because of the power outage but possibly also a design flaw. The equipment had never been used in a real-world crisis.

Unit 1 was a ticking time bomb.

___

As the night wore on, the prime minister decided he had to go to Fukushima himself, at first light. His helicopter landed at 7:11 a.m. on March 12. Like everyone else in the entourage, Kan wore a blue-gray work uniform and had a dosimeter hanging around his neck.

His aide, Shimomura, a former TV journalist, was assigned to chronicle the event. He started filming as the group boarded a minibus bound for the emergency crisis headquarters.

It looked normal enough from the outside. Inside, though, was a madhouse. Dozens of workers raced back and forth, trying not to step on about 20 others either slumped to the floor or sleeping in blankets in the hallway.

Shimomura turned off the camera. This scene would not reassure the nation, or the world.

Escorted by TEPCO officials, Kan strode past men so preoccupied or tired that they didn't even acknowledge the presence of their country's leader.

Kan, known for his short temper, fired questions at plant executives and pointed at diagrams of the reactors on a sheet of paper in front of them. He yelled at TEPCO Vice President Sakae Muto and plant chief Masao Yoshida, his onsite escorts, demanding to know why the venting and seawater injection were not happening.

The discussions lasted only half an hour. At 8 a.m., Kan was on his way back to Tokyo.

By then, TEPCO would later acknowledge, the core at Unit 1 had mostly melted, and units 2 and 3 were not far behind.

At 2:30 p.m., workers burst into applause. Vapor was rising from the Unit 1 stack and containment vessel pressures fell — confirmation that the venting was working. But within half an hour, they ran out of fresh water.

This was what TEPCO had dreaded.

Fukushima Dai-ichi was built right next to the biggest source of water on the planet — the Pacific Ocean. Pumping water out of the ocean is an absolute last resort, however. The reactors would never be usable again.

Yet again, TEPCO officials waffled. At 3:36 p.m., almost 24 hours to the minute after the second tsunami hit, the hydrogen inside Unit 1 combined with oxygen already there and exploded, in a fiery blast that blew off the roof and sent a plume of contaminated smoke and debris into the sky.

The decision to use seawater was unavoidable.

Blasts at units 2, 3 and 4 would follow in the coming days. TEPCO's primary task, and for months or even years, is still to repair the damage from the explosions.

Japan's nuclear nightmare had begun.

http://beta.news.yahoo.com/first-24-hours-shaped-japans-nuclear-crisis-060035933.html

beefsteak
4th July 2011, 11:07 AM
What an awesome read, Serpo.
Looking at the "aftermath photos" these units look positively vintage and "chewing gum and baling wire" assembled, even to this layman.


beefsteak

gunDriller
4th July 2011, 05:16 PM
i wonder how many Fukushima's there are out there.

with companies like BP running around, dozens, maybe hundreds.

if an environmental activist group threatened to disperse a gallon of Corexit at BP headquarters, would they be arrested for terrorism ? probably.

so, when BP dispersed millions of gallons of Corexit in the US Gulf, what happened ?


just think if BP had been running Fukushima.

TEPCo is bumbling and lying-to-save-face, but i don't think they're anywhere near as toxic - in terms of management - as BP, previously known as the Anglo Persian Oil Company. as in England-Iran. Rothschild's venture into Iranian oil in the 1950's.

I wouldn't want the Rothschild's running Fukushima, even if they have their tentacles in the nuclear industry anyway.

beefsteak
4th July 2011, 06:34 PM
Agreed.

Speaking of "management"...anyone else notice the "management of Ft. Calhoun" news? Can you say, blackout?

Anyone have a good omaha nebraska blogger who is tracking this BWR Fukushima SLoMo disaster in our heartland?


beefsteak

gunDriller
5th July 2011, 05:59 AM
Agreed.

Speaking of "management"...anyone else notice the "management of Ft. Calhoun" news? Can you say, blackout?

Anyone have a good omaha nebraska blogger who is tracking this BWR Fukushima SLoMo disaster in our heartland?

beefsteak

Sometimes Michael Ruppert will have a good addition to the info about Calhoun -

http://www.collapsenet.com/

MNeagle
5th July 2011, 06:00 AM
45% of kids sustained thyroid radiation


Kyodo

Around 45 percent of children in Fukushima Prefecture checked by the prefectural and central governments in late March experienced thyroid exposure to radiation, although in all cases in trace amounts that didn't warrant further examination, officials of the Nuclear Safety Commission said Tuesday.


The survey was conducted on 1,080 children from newborns to age 15 in Iwaki, Kawamata and Iitate from March 26 to 30 in light of radiation leaking from the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant.

Among children who tested positive for thyroid exposure, the amounts measured 0.04 microsievert per hour or less in most cases. The largest exposure was 0.1 microsievert per hour, equivalent to a yearly dose of 50 millisieverts for a 1-year-old.

None of those surveyed was exposed to over 0.2 microsievert per hour, the government's benchmark for conducting more detailed examinations, according to the officials.

Scientific surveys of hibakusha from Hiroshima and Nagasaki have indicated that exposure of 100 milisieverts in total could increase cancer morality risk by 0.5 percent.

Separately, a survey of soil at four locations in the city of Fukushima on June 26 found that all samples were contaminated with radioactive cesium, measuring 16,000 to 46,000 becquerels per kilogram and exceeding the legal limit of 10,000 becquerels per kg, citizens' groups said Tuesday.

The city, about 60 km northwest of the crippled plant, does not fall within the 20-km no-entry zone or nearby evacuation areas.

The citizens' groups, led by the Fukushima Network to Protect Children from Radiation, had asked Kobe University professor Tomoya Yamauchi, an expert in radiology, to lead the survey.

Another sample taken from a street ditch — where nuclear fallout often accumulates — registered as much as 931,000 becquerels per square meter, surpassing the 555,000 becquerels per sq meter limit for compulsory resettlement in the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear accident. Samples from the other three locations measured between 326,000 and 384,000 becquerels per square meter.

An earlier survey on soil in the city of Fukushima by the science ministry has found 37,000 becquerels of radioactive substances per 1 kg — equivalent to 740,000 becquerels per square meter.

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110705x2.html

beefsteak
5th July 2011, 07:21 AM
MNeagle,
that was a heartbreaking read...I don't care what the ethnicity! And thyroid cancer is just ONE malady awaiting the "now" little children!

LastResort
5th July 2011, 11:20 AM
45% of kids sustained thyroid radiation


although in all cases in trace amounts that didn't warrant further examination, officials of the Nuclear Safety Commission said Tuesday.


.

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110705x2.html

Of course no need to worry.....:mad: In ten years when the teenagers are dropping like flies it will be completely unrelated....

Serpo
6th July 2011, 05:55 AM
»

B.C. Canada sees spike in number of sudden infant deaths — “Why so many of those have come up this year, we don’t know”
July 6th, 2011 at 08:18 AM





Spike in B.C. sudden infant deaths concerns coroner, The Canadian Press, July 5, 2011:

B.C.’s chief coroner is urging parents to use safe sleep practices in light of a spike in the number of sudden infant deaths across the province this year.

There have been 21 sudden infant deaths in B.C. so far this year, while there were 16 sudden infant deaths for all of 2010, Lisa Lapointe said Tuesday. [...]

She said the reason for the increased number of deaths is all the more mysterious because health authorities, family doctors and public health nurses have kept up efforts to educate parents.

The B.C. Coroner’s Service is continuing to investigate the 21 deaths.

“We know there’s been a spike in the first six months and we know it’s related to unsafe sleep practices. Why so many of those [deaths] have come up this year, we don’t know.” -Lisa Lapointe, B.C.’s chief coroner

http://enenews.com/b-c-canada-sees-spike-in-number-of-sudden-infant-deaths-why-so-many-of-those-have-come-up-this-year-we-dont-know

Serpo
6th July 2011, 06:07 AM
i wonder how many Fukushima's there are out there.

with companies like BP running around, dozens, maybe hundreds.

if an environmental activist group threatened to disperse a gallon of Corexit at BP headquarters, would they be arrested for terrorism ? probably.

so, when BP dispersed millions of gallons of Corexit in the US Gulf, what happened ?


just think if BP had been running Fukushima.

TEPCo is bumbling and lying-to-save-face, but i don't think they're anywhere near as toxic - in terms of management - as BP, previously known as the Anglo Persian Oil Company. as in England-Iran. Rothschild's venture into Iranian oil in the 1950's.

I wouldn't want the Rothschild's running Fukushima, even if they have their tentacles in the nuclear industry anyway.
How many out there...............its not something I enjoy thinking about Gundriller..........when you add it all up there are over 400 reactors out there in the world which are all susceptable to disaster and disaster on a world wide scale (ie solar cme) would knock them all out possibly which in effect would be the end of the world.Its just beyond belief that these things get approval when nobody knows how to get rid of the waste product.We have been hijacked by the nuclear industry who must make huge profits at the expense of the planet.
For this reason I am totally against nuclear energy and feel we would be safer under candle light.Geo thermal energy can provide enough energy for the world when you look at it .We the little people are defencless against these companies and even after Fukushima the are still actively promoting nuclear...............

LastResort
6th July 2011, 06:18 AM
[QUOTE=Serpo;430309]We have been hijacked by the nuclear industry who must make huge profits at the expense of the planet.
For this reason I am totally against nuclear energy and feel we would be safer under candle light.QUOTE]

Need to keep those idiot boxes powered up though and keep the people glued to them. Imagine if we all had to cut our electrical consumtion in half lets say, how much mindless tv watching etc people would cut out. Tptb would loose their grip. People might actually get outside talk to your neighbours or do something else productive, enjoy nature.

Serpo
6th July 2011, 06:34 AM
Some great shots of jelly fish closing down nuclear reactor here.............

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2011565/Jellyfish-shut-power-station-amid-claims-climate-change-caused-population-surge.html

Serpo
6th July 2011, 08:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcqzDw8eV24

Serpo
6th July 2011, 08:37 AM
Tuesday, July 5, 2011
17,020 Becquerels/Kg Cesium in Dirt Cleaned Out from Elementary School Swimming Pool in Ibaraki Prefecture

And who did the cleaning? Children.

Now on to one of the favorite topics of this blog: Swimming pools in Japan.

Well they did it again, this time the Board of Education in Joso City in Ibaraki Prefecture. Back in May, as one of the annual, educational events of the schools, public elementary schools and junior high schools in Joso City had their pupils clean out the school swimming pools in preparation for the school swimming classes during summer. The teachers also helped out. Together, they cleaned the pools and scooped out the dirt that had accumulated at the bottom of the pools.

5 schools kept the dirt in a corner of the schoolyards. At one elementary school, a concerned PTA member decided to measure the radiation of the dirt. The result? 17,020 becquerels/kg of radioactive cesium.

There are 14 public elementary schools, 5 junior high schools in Joso City. The city's Board of Education runs both elementary schools and junior high schools.

From Mainichi Shinbun (7/5/2011):

常総市の市立小学校が5月にプール清掃を教員と児童で行った際にかき集めた泥土から、1キロ当たり1万70 20ベクレルの放射性セシウムが検出されたこと が分かった。環境省が放射性物質汚染がれきについて定めた埋め立て許容基準の2倍に当たり、この学校は泥土 を隔離。これを受けて市教育委員会が4日、全小 中学校のプール泥土の残存状況を調査したところ、同校の他に4小学校が敷地内に泥土を置いていることが明ら かになった。

It was disclosed that 17,020 becquerels per kilogram of radioactive cesium was detected from the dirt that were scooped out from the swimming pool when the teachers and pupils of one public elementary schools in Joso City did the cleaning of the pool in May. The amount is more than twice the safety limit set by the Ministry of the Environment for the radioactive debris that could be buried. The school moved the dirt in a separate area. Upon this news, the city's Board of Education surveyed the situation of the pool dirt in city's elementary schools and junior high schools on July 4, and found out there were 4 other elementary schools who had kept the dirt on the school premises.

同校PTA関係者が敷地にあった泥土を6月11日にバケツ1杯分採取し、うち3キロの試料を専門検査会社に 送付。同29日に届いた検査結果によると、セシウム134が7700ベクレル、セシウム137が9320ベ クレルだった。

A member of the school's PTA collected a bucketful of this dirt on June 11, and sent 3 kilograms of it to a laboratory specializing in radiation measurement. The result, which was delivered on June 29, showed the sample contained 7,700 becquerels/kg of cesium-134 and 9,320 becquerels/kg of cesium-137.

 環境省が先月公表した汚染がれき処理基準では、8000ベクレル以下については埋め立て処理を認めるが、 これを超すと放射線遮へい措置が必要となる。文部科学省はプールなどの泥土もこれに準じるとし ている。

The safety limit for disposal of radioactive debris, as announced by the Ministry of the Environment last month, is 8,000 becquerels/kg. If it is below that limit, you can bury the debris. If it exceeds, then the measures will be necessary to shield the radiation. The Ministry of Education and Science says the dirt from the pool would be treated in the same manner.

 同校の教頭は「愛校作業として5、6年生が掃除に携わった」と話しており、放射性物質汚染の認識はなかっ たという。市教委は5月25日、プール清掃に際し児童生徒の健康に配慮するよう各校長に指示したが、既に同 校を含む4小中学校で児童生徒が清掃に参加していた。

The vice principal of the elementary school said, "As an activity to promote love for the school, 5th and 6th graders participated in the cleaning." The school didn't think of the radiation contamination then. The city's Board of Education instructed the principals of the city's schools on May 25 to pay attention to the health of pupils when cleaning the swimming pools, but by that time 4 schools including this elementary school had already had pupils clean the pools.

 市教委は同校のプール泥土を産業廃棄物として業者に処理を委託することを決定。他の4校の泥土については 5日に放射線量を測り、校庭よりも高い数値が出た場合は産廃として処理する方針。坂巻幸一教育部長は「プー ル清掃は学校の指導の一環だが、配慮が足りなかったかもしれない」と述べた。

The city's Board of Education has decided to have a company that specializes in disposal of industrial waste to dispose the pool dirt from the school. As to the dirt at 4 other schools, the radiation will be measured on July 5. If the numbers are higher than those for the schoolyards, the dirt will be disposed as industrial waste. Koichi Sakamaki, manager for education [at the Board of Education] said, "Cleaning the swimming pools is part of the school instruction. But we should have been a bit more careful."

 調査したPTA関係者は「子どもが放射性物質に汚染された泥土の処理を行った事実を、将来の健康も考えて 記録に残してほしい。市教委はきちんと対策を取り、情報を公開すべきだ」と指摘する。一方、県教委保健体育 課は「評価基準はないが、掃除の後きちんと手を洗えばそれほど神経質になることはない」として いる。

The member of the school's PTA says, "That the children did the cleanup of radioactive dirt should be recorded as such , for the future health monitoring. The city's Board of Education should provide appropriate countermeasures, and disclose information fully." The Board of Education of Ibaraki Prefecture, on the other hand, says "While it's true there is no standard for evaluating the pool dirt, but there is no need to be nervous as long as you wash your hands after cleaning the pool."

How could the school not think of radiation contamination, when the radioactive plume from Fukushima I Nuke Plant was constantly blowing over Ibaraki Prefecture and the air radiation level remains elevated? (I guess the vice principal didn't have access to the Internet to take a look at those foreign meteorological agencies' simulations...)

No matter. Cleaning is over now anyway, and the rest of the schools didn't even keep the dirt. But the pool water is clean, I'm sure.

But since when the dirt that contains that much radioactive cesium can be disposed as "industrial waste", instead of nuclear waste?

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/07/17020-becquerelskg-cesium-in-dirt.html

Serpo
6th July 2011, 08:38 AM
UNITED STATES NEW WORLD ROLE: LOW-LEVEL NUCLEAR WASTE DUMPING GROUND

http://newswithviews.com/Peterson/rosalind122.htm

Serpo
6th July 2011, 09:30 AM
[QUOTE=Serpo;430309]We have been hijacked by the nuclear industry who must make huge profits at the expense of the planet.
For this reason I am totally against nuclear energy and feel we would be safer under candle light.QUOTE]

Need to keep those idiot boxes powered up though and keep the people glued to them. Imagine if we all had to cut our electrical consumtion in half lets say, how much mindless tv watching etc people would cut out. Tptb would loose their grip. People might actually get outside talk to your neighbours or do something else productive, enjoy nature.

You have a point there LR.........

gunDriller
7th July 2011, 04:15 PM
[QUOTE=LastResort;430314]

You have a point there LR.........

true ... very true.

i believe that nuclear energy is feasible if a culture is mature enough to take a comprehensive approach - i.e. listen to the engineers, don't take shortcuts, plan for 100 year events like floods & earthquakes, design accordingly.

but that is a big if.

uranium nuclear technology requires mature adults. i think we have some of them here on G-S.us, but i wouldn't use the term "mature adult" to refer to the US gov. or Israel.

and i used to think of Japan as "responsible". hmmm. will have to re-think that.


i wonder if by-products of thorium nuclear technology, have a sufficiently short half-life.

Serpo
8th July 2011, 01:59 AM
Nuclear reactor on North Carolina college campus leaking radiation since last Friday — Public not told because radioactivity was “compared to what someone might receive getting an x-ray”
July 7th, 2011 at 09:43 PM





Minor water leak reported at NC State’s nuclear reactor, WRAL, July 7, 2011:

North Carolina State University officials said Thursday that there is a low-level water leak in the liner that surrounds the campus nuclear reactor, but that it poses no danger to the public.

University spokesman Keith Nichols described the leak, discovered Saturday, as the size of a pinhead and that it was leaking about 10 gallons per hour from the 15,000-gallon tank. [...]

Nichols said it would be considered a public threat if the reactor were leaking at 350 gallons per hour.

The university is in the process of repairing the leak [..


http://enenews.com/nuclear-reactor-in-north-carolina-leaking-radiation-since-last-friday-compared-to-what-someone-might-receive-getting-an-x-ray

Serpo
8th July 2011, 02:03 AM
[QUOTE=Serpo;430394]

true ... very true.

i believe that nuclear energy is feasible if a culture is mature enough to take a comprehensive approach - i.e. listen to the engineers, don't take shortcuts, plan for 100 year events like floods & earthquakes, design accordingly.

but that is a big if.

uranium nuclear technology requires mature adults. i think we have some of them here on G-S.us, but i wouldn't use the term "mature adult" to refer to the US gov. or Israel.

and i used to think of Japan as "responsible". hmmm. will have to re-think that.


i wonder if by-products of thorium nuclear technology, have a sufficiently short half-life.

Trouble is we cant plan for total devastation and if that happens then nuclear reactors become very dangerous indeed,time bombs in fact.No I think nuclear energy should be scraped immediately, hard to see it happening but thats the truth.

Serpo
8th July 2011, 02:05 AM
The latest ghoulish headlines.
Nuclear reactor on North Carolina college campus leaking radiation since last Friday — Public not told because radioactivity was “compared to what someone might receive getting an x-ray”
July 7th, 2011 at 09:43 PM


Minor water leak reported at NC State’s nuclear reactor, WRAL, July …Read More

45 comments
AP: 5.6 quake rattles Japan near Fukushima site
July 7th, 2011 at 04:14 PM


…Read More

76 comments


Trouble at Reactor No. 3: Unable to inject nitrogen in containment vessel to prevent hydrogen explosion
July 7th, 2011 at 12:34 PM


Nitrogen injection could be delayed at Fukushima, NHK, July 7, 2011:

…Read More

105 comments
3 men exposed to over 250 millisieverts — TEPCO claims no ‘immediate’ impact on health
July 7th, 2011 at 12:10 PM


Tepco Says 3 More Workers Exposed to Radiation Exceeding Limit, Bloomberg, …Read More

22 comments
Faked: Japan nuke company caught using employees to ask questions during televised hearing — Told to impersonate private citizens who want reactors restarted
July 7th, 2011 at 11:32 AM


President of Japan Nuclear Operator May Resign Over E-Mails, New York …Read More

29 comments
Professor: Fukushima consequences are “unlimited in space, time and the social dimension” — “It doesn’t have a limit”
July 7th, 2011 at 11:11 AM


INTERVIEW/ Ulrich Beck: System of organized irresponsibility behind the Fukushima crisis, …Read More

23 comments
TEPCO halts reactor’s cooling system at Fukushima Daini after electrical sparks observed
July 7th, 2011 at 10:43 AM


Tepco halts cooling system at nuclear plant after sparks-Kyodo, Reuters, July …Read More

19 comments
Fire at another nuke plant northeast of Tokyo
July 6th, 2011 at 10:13 AM


BLAZE IN NUCLEAR POWER PLANT IN TOKAI, JAPAN, AGI, July 6, …Read More

268 comments
Reactor No. 1 dry well meter hits new high at 266 Sv/hour — Japan says ‘defective’
July 6th, 2011 at 09:20 AM


Radiation dose, Unit 1 nuclear power plant Hukushima, atmc.jp, July 6, …Read More

33 comments
B.C. Canada sees spike in number of sudden infant deaths — “Why so many of those have come up this year, we don’t know”
July 6th, 2011 at 08:18 AM


Spike in B.C. sudden infant deaths concerns coroner, The Canadian Press, …Read More

61 comments
Japanese professor: “Soil contamination is spreading in the city” 60 km from Fukushima plant — “Evacuation must be conducted as soon as possible”
July 5th, 2011 at 09:53 AM


Japan groups alarmed by radioactive soil, AFP, July 5, 2011:

Soil …Read More

159 comments
All soil samples taken 60 km from Fukushima plant survey exceed legal limit — Minimum of 326,000 Becquerels per sq. meter
July 5th, 2011 at 08:48 AM


One location registered as much as 931,000 becquerels per square meter …Read More

11 comments
45% of kids in Fukushima survey had thyroid exposure to radiation — Up to 50 millisieverts per year equivalent for 1-year-old
July 5th, 2011 at 08:06 AM


45% of kids in Fukushima survey had thyroid exposure to radiation, …Read More

9 comments
Residents forced to dump nuclear waste in parks and forests
July 5th, 2011 at 07:26 AM


Fukushima residents dump radiated soil in absence of plan, Reuters by …Read More

32 comments
Fire growing toward the east — Los Alamos crews setting up another containment line around city
July 4th, 2011 at 03:58 PM


Las Conchas continues to burn, KASA, July 4, 2011:

[...] As …Read More

76 comments
Brochure from France’s largest nuke company describes fuel melting in spent fuel pool at Fukushima — Concluded that TEPCO apparently had not released most information it held
July 4th, 2011 at 01:38 PM


French nuclear power lobbyists used Fukushima smear campaign to promote own …Read More

66 comments
Cesium found in Tokyo tap water for first time since April
July 3rd, 2011 at 11:51 PM


Radioactive Cesium Is Found in Tokyo Water, Bloomberg By Pavel Alpeyev, …Read More

115 comments
Los Alamos residents warned they will see smoldering landscapes in hills surrounding town
July 3rd, 2011 at 03:06 PM


UPDATED: Weather Aids Firefighters as Los Alamos Residents Return, Albuquerque Journal, …Read More

50 comments
“Unbelievable”: Large city 60 km from meltdowns has 3-4 times radiation levels at which Soviets evacuated everyone — Hotspots up to 500-700 times normal (VIDEO)
July 3rd, 2011 at 01:50 PM


Daily life in Fukushima: ‘It was like visiting another universe’, RussiaToday, …Read More

65 comments
Video of damaged spent fuel pool No. 3 reveals single bundle of fuel that is very near water surface — “There should be a lot of bundles” (VIDEO)
July 3rd, 2011 at 12:14 PM


New Analysis of Unit 3 Fuel Pool Video Reveals Top of …Read More

http://enenews.com/

Serpo
8th July 2011, 02:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY5cvod4Tiw&feature=player_embedded

gunDriller
8th July 2011, 05:56 AM
[QUOTE=gunDriller;430800]

Trouble is we cant plan for total devastation and if that happens then nuclear reactors become very dangerous indeed,time bombs in fact.No I think nuclear energy should be scraped immediately, hard to see it happening but thats the truth.

engineers plan for total devastation all the time, or should i say, on avoiding devastation - beating Murphy's Law.

with mixed results.

it sounds cliche but - we have this big nuclear reactor 93 million miles away.

if we put all the energy that we put into nuclear, into solar thermal, solar photovoltaic, etc. ... you would buy a home that would have its own power plant. not hard to do ... but of course it needs energy storage too.

Serpo
8th July 2011, 04:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm2fV0ag6tY

Serpo
8th July 2011, 04:46 PM
[QUOTE=Serpo;430898]

engineers plan for total devastation all the time, or should i say, on avoiding devastation - beating Murphy's Law.

with mixed results.

it sounds cliche but - we have this big nuclear reactor 93 million miles away.

if we put all the energy that we put into nuclear, into solar thermal, solar photovoltaic, etc. ... you would buy a home that would have its own power plant. not hard to do ... but of course it needs energy storage too.



What is Geothermal Energy?


The term geothermal comes from the Greek geo, meaning earth, and therme, meaning heat, thus geothermal energy is energy derived from the natural heat of the earth. The earth’s temperature varies widely, and geothermal energy is usable for a wide range of temperatures from room temperature to well over 300°F. For commercial use, a geothermal reservoir capable of providing hydrothermal (hot water and steam) resources is necessary. Geothermal reservoirs are generally classified as being either low temperature (<150°C) or high temperature (>150°C). Generally speaking, the high temperature reservoirs are the ones suitable for, and sought out for, commercial production of electricity. Geothermal reservoirs are found in “geothermal systems,” which are regionally localized geologic settings where the earth’s naturally occurring heat flow is near enough to the earth’s surface to bring steam or hot water, to the surface. Examples of geothermal systems include the Geysers Region in Northern California, the Imperial Valley in Southern California, and the Yellowstone Region in Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming.
Dry Steam

Power plants using dry steam systems were the first type of geothermal power generation plants built. They use steam from the geothermal reservoir as it comes from wells and route it directly through turbine/generator units to produce electricity. An example of a dry steam generation operation is at the Geysers Region in northern California.



Schematic of the dry steam power plant.
Flash Steam

Flash steam plants are the most common type of geothermal power generation plants in operation today. They use water at temperatures greater than 360°F (182°C) that is pumped under high pressure to the generation equipment at the surface. Upon reaching the generation equipment, the pressure is suddenly reduced, allowing some of the hot water to convert or “flash” into steam. This steam is then used to power the turbine/generator units to produce electricity. The remaining hot water not flashed into steam, and the water condensed from the steam, is generally pumped back into the reservoir. An example of an area using the flash steam operation is the CalEnergy Navy I flash geothermal power plant at the Coso geothermal field.

https://inlportal.inl.gov/portal/server.pt/community/geothermal/422/what_is_geothermal_energy_

Schematic of the flash steam power plant.
Binary Cycle

Binary cycle geothermal power generation plants differ from dry steam and flash steam systems because the water or steam from the geothermal reservoir never comes in contact with the turbine/generator units. In the binary system, the water from the geothermal reservoir is used to heat another “working fluid,” which is vaporized and used to turn the turbine/generator units. The geothermal water and the “working fluid” are each confined in separate circulating systems or “closed loops” and never come in contact with each other. The advantage of the binary cycle plant is that they can operate with lower temperature waters (225°F to 360°F) by using working fluids that have an even lower boiling point than water. They also produce no air emissions. An example of an area using a binary cycle power generation system is the Mammoth Pacific binary geothermal power plants at the Casa Diablo geothermal field.

https://inlportal.inl.gov/portal/server.pt/gateway/PTARGS_0_2_4972_422_3453_43/http%3B/exps3.inl.gov%3B7087/publishedcontent/publish/communities/inl_gov/research_programs/energy_and_environment/energy_systems_and_technologies/geothermal_energy/what_is_geothermal_energy_2_column/dry_steam.gif

https://inlportal.inl.gov/portal/server.pt/gateway/PTARGS_0_2_4972_422_3453_43/http%3B/exps3.inl.gov%3B7087/publishedcontent/publish/communities/inl_gov/research_programs/energy_and_environment/energy_systems_and_technologies/geothermal_energy/what_is_geothermal_energy_2_column/flash.gif

https://inlportal.inl.gov/portal/server.pt/gateway/PTARGS_0_2_4972_422_3453_43/http%3B/exps3.inl.gov%3B7087/publishedcontent/publish/communities/inl_gov/research_programs/energy_and_environment/energy_systems_and_technologies/geothermal_energy/what_is_geothermal_energy_2_column/binary.gif

beefsteak
11th July 2011, 02:16 PM
Antonio started a valuable thread to wit Keehah posted the following:

TOPIC: Natural sources of Radiation combating Glutathione:

SOURCE: http://www.naturalnews.com/028570_glutathione_GSH.html


Other GSH Boosters

Foods need to be raw and organic; dairy or meats should be from grass fed sources. Meat is not so great eaten raw. Raw eggs can be put into your blender with a protein mix.
Organic walnuts,
broccoli,
asparagus,
watermelon,
garlic,
spinach,
tomatoes,
avocado,
turmeric, and
ricotta cheese
.............all contain or create the needed precursors for intracellular GSH creation.

And now the liver herb milk thistle has been discovered to greatly boost GSH. Glutathione is extremely important as an essential antioxidant, detoxifier, and immune system booster.

Thanks to both!

beefsteak

beefsteak
11th July 2011, 02:46 PM
Willing to wager Homeland Security is behind this potential sequestering of "trial balloon" to be conducted in King County (all Seattle) and Pierce County, of testing radioactivity levels acc'd to EneNEWS this date...

hmmmm




Aerial Radiological Survey for King and Pierce Counties





A helicopter flying over some urban areas of King and Pierce counties will gather radiological readings July 11-28, 2011.

The U.S. Department of Energy's Remote Sensing Laboratory Aerial Measurement System will collect baseline levels of radioactive materials.

The helicopter's equipment can detect the presence of radioactive materials that emit gamma radiation such as cesium and radioactive iodine. The baseline would be used in the event of a radiation emergency to compare radioactive contamination to the normal levels found during this study.

The Washington State Department of Health Office of Radiation Protection is overseeing the project, which is funded by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

The helicopter will fly a grid pattern spaced about 600 feet apart at an altitude of 300 feet, flying at 70 mph. The results will be provided to local agencies from the surveyed area by year-end.

Some of the data may be withheld for national security purposes. The state Department of Health has been planning this project since 2009.
http://www.doh.wa.gov/ehp/rp/rep/aerial.htm




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My questions: DO states' rights supersede the FED GOV'T we're here to protect you Washington staters from yourselves and life giving knowledge?

What's the "300 feet elevation about?" What's so magic about testing 300'

What is this noise about conducting a "baseline study" IN JULY???? after the Fukushima horses have fled the Dai-ichi "barn" the previous March? ?

This stinks!


beefsteak

Serpo
11th July 2011, 03:38 PM
After living all those years..


Elderly woman hangs herself over nuclear crisis — Please tell your readers why she committed suicide, son tells Mainichi
July 10th, 2011 at 02:56 PM



Elderly Fukushima woman kills self ‘to evacuate to grave’, Mainichi, July 9, 2011:

A 93-year-old woman, dejected over the ongoing nuclear crisis, was found hanged at her home in Minamisoma, Fukushima Prefecture, in late June, leaving behind suicide notes that said in part, “I will evacuate to the grave. I am sorry.”

After hydrogen explosions at the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant in March, the woman was forced to evacuate to the house of her second daughter in Soma and was later hospitalized for two weeks before returning May 3 to her house in Minamisoma, subject to a possible emergency evacuation order due to the nuclear disaster.

“If we have to evacuate again, elderly people (like me) will become a drag,” her suicide note said. [...]

Her four suicide notes addressed to her family, ancestors and a close neighborhood friend were later found in the house. “My heart is in my mouth everyday due to news of the nuclear power plant,” she wrote to her family. [...]

Her son and his wife told the Mainichi, “Please tell your readers why she killed herself.”

http://enenews.com/elderly-woman-hangs-herself-nuclear-crisis-please-readers-killed-herself-son-tells-mainichi

beefsteak
11th July 2011, 05:05 PM
My wife and I can only imagine what she must have felt like at 93 to be uprooted by such horrendous events beyond her control. Surely the angels welcomed her to her heavenly abode. God looks on the heart, and for that we are extremely grateful.


beefsteak

Serpo
12th July 2011, 01:31 AM
Nuclear Evacuation Zones: How Close Are You To A Nuclear Power Plant? (INTERACTIVE MAP)

First Posted: 7/11/11 01:42 PM ET |



AP Reporter Jeff Dunn answered in his Q&A with Huff Post readers, "The US government recommended that all US nationals evacuate to at least 50 miles from the broken Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant in Japan earlier this year. And the NRC chairman suggested that we'd do the same in the same circumstances in the US."

Are you within 50 miles of a Nuclear Power plant? Would you be subject to evacuation if a Fukushima-like disaster occurred in the United States?

The Huffington Post has created an interactive map using the Associated Press data on nuclear power plants.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/11/nuclear-evacuation-zones-us-map_n_893751.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008

All of the active nuclear power plants in the United States are displayed on the map below. The color of each circle is determined by the 2010 population around the plant: the darker the shade of red, the more people within the 50-mile radius of the power plant.

Increased concerns about nuclear power plants in the United States come following an AP investigation that found, "Federal regulators have been working closely with the nuclear power industry to keep the nation's aging reactors operating within safety standards by repeatedly weakening those standards, or simply failing to enforce them."

They also reported that, "Radioactive tritium has leaked from three-quarters of U.S. commercial nuclear power sites, often into groundwater from corroded, buried piping."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/11/nuclear-evacuation-zones-us-map_n_893751.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008

Serpo
12th July 2011, 04:38 AM
This one is for you Beefsteak...........

#Radioactive Beef from Fukushima Update: Already Been Sold in At Least 9 (not 5) Prefectures

Beef from 6 cows from the same cattle farmer in Minami Soma City in Fukushima Prefecture have already been sold at least in 9 (not 5) prefectures, according to Mainichi Shinbun Japanese latest update (1:28AM, 7/12/2011).

Unlike the 11 cows whose meat all tested cesium exceeding the provisional limit of 500 becquerels/kg, the meat from these 6 cows had never been tested and allowed to circulate in the market.

The Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries is in charge of testing live cattle, and the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare is in charge of testing meat. They do not talk with each other.

And as usual, the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare assures us that "it won't affect health unless you eat it on a continuous basis." The Ministry conveniently forgets that the radiation is everywhere - air, soil, water, sludge, garbage, tea, vegetables, fish, meat. If people can just eat this contaminated beef and not breathe, not eat and drink anything else, it still may not be "safe".

From Mainichi Shinbun latest update:

The beef has been confirmed sold in: Hokkaido, Tokyo, Kanagawa, Chiba, Shizuoka, Aichi, Osaka, Tokushima, Kochi.

Not confirmed: Ehime

福島県南相馬市の畜産農家が出荷した黒毛和牛11頭から暫定規制値(1キロ当たり500ベクレル)を超える 放射性セシウムが検出された問題で、同じ 農家が出荷した別の6頭の牛肉が5都府県の食肉販売・卸売業者に販売されていたことが東京都の調査で分かっ た。さらに少なくとも9都道府県に流通し、 148キロ以上が小売店などで売られたが、厚生労働省は「継続的に大量摂取しなければ健康に影響はない」と している。

It was discovered by the Tokyo Metropolitan government that the meat from 6 cows sold by the same cattle farmer earlier had been sold to wholesalers and retailers in 5 prefectures. Further, it had been in the market in additional 4 prefectures (total of 9 prefectures). Over 148 kilograms of meat have been sold. The Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare says, "There is no effect on health unless it is consumed continuously in large quantities."

 静岡市保健所は11日、市内の業者が27.8キロの肉を仕入れ、残っていた肉から1キロ当たり1998ベ クレルの放射性セシウムを検出したと発 表。一部は飲食店などで客に出されたという。東京都によると、都内の卸売業者が保管していた肉から、最大で 暫定規制値の6.8倍に当たる3400ベクレル が検出された。

The Shizuoka City Public Health Center announced on July 11 that 1,998 becquerels/kg cesium was found in the meat purchased by a wholesaler in the city, who purchased 27.8 kilogram of this beef. Part of the meat has already been served to customers in restaurants. The Tokyo Municipal government detected 3,400 becquerels/kg cesium from the meat that a wholesaler in Tokyo had kept. That is 6.8 times the provisional safety limit of 500 becquerels/kg.

 大阪府も11日、2頭分の肉が府内を中心に流通していたと発表。うち数キロ分が贈答用として消費された可 能性があるという。横浜市では小売店で 52キロ分が販売された。愛媛県によると、17.6キロ分が県内の業者を通じて高知、徳島両県のスーパーに 送られ、販売されたという。愛媛県内での流通は 確認されていない。

The Osaka government also announced on July 11 that the meat from 2 cows from the cattle farmer had been sold, mostly within Osaka. Several kilograms of the meat had been given as gifts and probably been consumed already. In Yokohama City in Kanagawa Prefecture, 52 kilogram of this meat was sold in retail stores. According to the Ehime government, a wholesaler in Ehime sold 17.6 kilograms of the meat to supermarkets in Kochi and Tokushima Prefectures, who then sold the meat to consumers. It is not known whether any has been sold within Ehime Prefecture.

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/07/radioactive-beef-from-fukushima-already.html

beefsteak
12th July 2011, 11:03 AM
Thanks Serpo....Arrgh! Spread the wealth, eh? That actually hurt to read that. God Forbid govt agencies talk to each other on matters of public health and radiated food, eh? Do those farmers also offer 1 free year's supply of French Green Clay and Charmin per discriminating retail purchaser or "giftee?


beefsteak

beefsteak
13th July 2011, 09:04 AM
......meanwhile, back at the ranch...

Dateline: JUNE 19, 2011 (Yes 3 months AFTER Fukushima)



German radioactive waste approved for Tennessee (http://www.eatmycorn.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=29#p38)

http://www.eatmycorn.com/styles/art_clr_black/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif (http://www.eatmycorn.com/viewtopic.php?p=38#p38) Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:48 pm
OAK RIDGE, Tennessee (AP) — Federal authorities have approved licenses allowing up to 1,000 tons of low-level radioactive waste from Germany to be brought to Oak Ridge, Tennessee, for incineration.

The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission's decision has some environmental groups calling the plan unhealthy and a possible gateway for highly radioactive wastes to be reprocessed or recycled in East Tennessee's "Atomic City."

Don Safer, chairman of the Tennessee Environmental Council, told The Chattanooga Times Free Press that the Czech government turned away the waste and Utah did everything in its power to avoid receiving the ash left behind after incineration at Oak Ridge, forcing most of it to be shipped back to Germany.

EnergySolutions, a Utah-based multinational company that operates radioactive waste disposal facilities in Oak Ridge, said the process is safe when the proposal was introduced a few months ago.

Company officials also said EnergySolutions has treated low-level radioactive waste, such as X-ray equipment, medical waste or contaminated clothing and mops from nuclear plants, for American businesses and the government at Oak Ridge since the facility opened more than 20 years ago.

"There's more (radioactive) tritium in the atmosphere from cosmic rays from the sun than what we'd ever emit from there," EnergySolutions spokesman Mark Walker said last March.

Because the licenses have been approved but not yet signed, the company has not confirmed import dates for the waste, he said.

Tennessee is the only state that allows commercial burning of radioactive waste, licensing six incinerators. The state already receives 75 percent of the nation's low-level radioactive waste — about 41 million pounds (18.6 million kilograms) per year, according to state records.

With German waste now permitted to enter the U.S. and come to Oak Ridge, Safer expects Tennessee to become "the destination for processing radioactive waste from all over the world."

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Information from: Chattanooga Times Free Press, http://www.timesfreepress.com (http://www.timesfreepress.com/)=============
Did I read that right? Doing "low-level incineration" for past 20 years? Then why in the world do we have THESE recent images forever etched in our minds?


http://enenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/areag.jpg Yep, reeeeal secure there? And this is just one of the "UNCOUNTED" nuke sites in the USA...truth be told, the number is truly 141 + Los Alamos....

Yup, 141 of 'em.


Report: Up to 30,000 drums of plutonium-contaminated waste stored in fabric tents above ground at Los Alamos dumpsite — Lab declines to comment (http://enenews.com/report-30000-drums-plutonium-contaminated-waste-stored-fabric-tents-above-ground-los-alamos-lab-comment)
DATELINE: June 27, 2011
============


AP: Los Alamos officials now confirming that drums of plutonium-contaminated waste are stored above ground at ‘Area G’ (http://enenews.com/los-alamos-officials-confirm-drums-plutonium-contaminated-waste-area-fabric-tents-above-ground)
DATELINE: June 28, 2011
==============


Concern that drums filled with plutonium-contaminated waste at Los Alamos could burst from fire’s heat (http://enenews.com/concern-that-drums-filled-with-plutonium-contaminated-waste-at-los-alamos-could-burst-from-fires-heat)
DATELINE: June 29, 2011
===================


High potential for “major calamity” at Los Alamos if fire reaches 20,000 barrels of nuclear waste in fabric-type building, says former top security official (http://enenews.com/high-potential-for-major-calamity-at-los-alamos-if-fire-reaches-20000-barrels-of-nuclear-waste-in-fabric-type-building-says-former-top-security-official)
DATELINE: June 29, 2011

* obviously the 30,000 barrels was too scary, so Los Alamos "lost 10,000 barrels" on a "re-count" *sarc* ? ? ?
================


As of this morning, (6/30/2011) flames just two miles away from plutonium-contaminated waste at Los Alamos — Barrels are not well contained says former top official (http://enenews.com/morning-flames-miles-away-plutonium-contaminated-waste-los-alamos-barrels-contained-former-top-official)
DATELINE: June 30, 2011
================


Brian Williams--NBC Nightly News 2Min 15 sec sound/video byte segment on "Worry..."
http://enenews.com/photo-barrels-plutonium-waste-inside-plastic-tent-los-alamos-area-when-assure-worry-about-id-be-worried-former-doe-official-video

========================

Either
A) this outfit isn't very good, or
B ) Los Alamos Lab doesn't trust'em, or
C ) everyone else's radioactive junk is more important than "home junk"
so, we have a backlog of taking in everyone else on the planet's "low level waste"

I'm voting "C"...

AND...
what's this about 75% of THIS nation's low radioactive waste crap? ? ? Wonder what percentage of the PLANET's crap takes precedence?

Now we know what it means for "GERMANY'S POPULAR MERKEL MANDATE TO ABANDON IT'S NUKE POWER PROGRAM!" More employment for UTAH operated TENNESSEE incinerator? Wonder how many applicants they get per job opening there in Tenn.?


UNBELIEVABLE!!

gunDriller
13th July 2011, 02:51 PM
Now we know what it means for "GERMANY'S POPULAR MERKEL MANDATE TO ABANDON IT'S NUKE POWER PROGRAM!" More employment for UTAH operated TENNESSEE incinerator?[/B][/SIZE][/FONT] Wonder how many applicants they get per job opening there in Tenn.?

i can't help but wonder if this is part of a bigger deal.

Merkel does a favor for TPTB - bailing out Greece, not bailing out Greece - the NRC does a favor for Germany and sticks the US with Germany's nuclear waste.

JeeeeZUS, the Germans are smart enough to build bunkers that can hold nuclear waste.


letting it sit in Germany and live out its half-lives seems much safer than transporting it 8000 miles.

what am i missing ? besides smilies :-)

Serpo
13th July 2011, 03:19 PM
i can't help but wonder if this is part of a bigger deal.

Merkel does a favor for TPTB - bailing out Greece, not bailing out Greece - the NRC does a favor for Germany and sticks the US with Germany's nuclear waste.

JeeeeZUS, the Germans are smart enough to build bunkers that can hold nuclear waste.


letting it sit in Germany and live out its half-lives seems much safer than transporting it 8000 miles.

what am i missing ? besides smilies :-)

They are all a bunch of reckless idiots and what they are missing is a micro level of common sense.

Serpo
13th July 2011, 03:20 PM
Japan's Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant was devastated by a tsunami in March - but before the plant was built the owners had cleared away a 35-metre hill that would have shielded it.

The decision, by the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), was revealed today in the Japan Times:
TEPCO, assuming tsunami 3.1 metres or higher would never hit the coast, cut down the bluff by some 25 metres and erected the plant on artificially prepared ground only 10 metres above sea level... TEPCO further dug below the surface 14 metres more to create underground floors, including those for the turbine buildings, where the emergency diesel generators were installed. The tsunami easily flooded the premises and knocked out the power systems, including those for running the critical reactor core coolant equipment. The meltdowns became inevitable.

Apparently TEPCO got rid of the hill "to build the base of the reactors directly on solid bedrock to mitigate any earthquake threat". That is common practice when building nuclear power plants.

Razing the hill also cut the cost of pumps used to cool the plant by pumping in seawater, and made it easier to bring in heavy equipment by boat.


http://beforeitsnews.com/story/812/093/TEPCO_Razed_A_Hill_To_Build_Fukushima_On_Low_Groun d.html

Serpo
13th July 2011, 04:02 PM
A blog .............


http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/japan_nuclear_disaster_update_9.php

Serpo
14th July 2011, 01:05 AM
japan radiation killing insects, molds and fungus?
Suggest Pin Quote [+]
This from a forum

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1560232/pg1
have a garden for the last 30 years, 50 miles south of tokyo.

walking down the street this month and noticed many dead insects on the street. they looked whole and normal just dead. then noticed this is the first year in 30 years that my garden is free of leaf eaters and also molds. checking around and other gardeners are also mold and insect free. no aphids this year, no caterpillars, and no japanese beetles, must be the radiation. take it for what its worth.

beefsteak
14th July 2011, 07:25 AM
Interesting, Serpo. I'm not going to swallow this one whole, so thanks for the disclaimer. :)

There are many things in their world which have changed, radiation being a biggie, yes. However, I'm reminded of the admonitions w/r/t drawing obvious conclusions with subjective reasoning being the primary "proof."

When I was much younger, I remember a joke which illustrated faulty logic. It went something like this:

Older brother to younger sister:
BRO: What is purple and pink and goes dingle-dangle?
Sis: I don't know....
BRO: A purple and pink dingle-dangle, silly!
Sis: Oh. :(
BRO: What is yellow and green and goes dingle-dangle?
Sis: I don't know....
BRO: A yellow and green dingle-dangle! Geeze, you're dumb.
Sis: Oh. :( :(
BRO: What is red and silver and goes dingle-dangle?
Sis: I know. I know. A red and silver dingle-dangle!!!!! ;D
BRO: No, dummy! A firetruck!!! >:D

Fukushima and no bugs, mold, caterpillars, Japanese beetles, nor Ringo Starr....
....sounds an awful lot like a "red and silver dingle-dangle" conclusion t'me....
and no, I wasn't the big brother in the story above! ;D

Serpo
14th July 2011, 03:45 PM
Tennessee nuke plant: After tornadoes, water in reactor “boiled” low enough to trigger shutdown alarm — Public not told of problems

TVA defends Browns Ferry after reports of equipment, operator failure, Times Free Press, July 14th, 2011:

Browns Ferry Nuclear Plant had far more problems during recent tornadoes than TVA told the public after winds took down power lines and the plant went into automatic shutdown.

Exhibit A:

[D]ocuments the [Tennessee Valley Authority] is required to submit to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission show reactor operators became distracted while manually operating cooling water flow to the Unit 1 reactor and water began boiling off faster than it was being replaced. [...]

Browns Ferry ran on diesel generators’ power for five days after the shutdown. [...]

When one of the generators failed at Browns Ferry, there was a temporary loss of shutdown cooling for one reactor for about 47 minutes, but the water level in the reactor never got near the boiling point, officials said. [...]

The water in the reactor boiled low enough to trigger another shutdown alarm in the control room, but [TVA nuclear spokesman Ray Golden] said boiling water still covered the reactor fuel.

There were other problems after the tornadoes:

A valve failed, a diesel-driven fire pump failed, the diesel-driven generator for the security station failed, the warning sirens were lost, power to the chemical lab was lost, and an emergency diesel generator keeping cool water flowing to one of three reactors shut down because of voltage fluctuations caused by a fluid leak after a brass fitting broke.

Beware phrases like ‘the equipment worked as designed’ and ‘the plant was safely shut down and cooled down’. From TVA nuclear spokesman Ray Golden:

“I don’t think anywhere we use terms like ‘flawless’ or ‘perfect.’ We did use terms like ‘the equipment worked as designed’ and ‘the plant was safely shut down and cooled down.’”

http://enenews.com/tennessee-nuke-plant-after-tornadoes-water-in-reactor-boiled-low-enough-to-trigger-shutdown-alarm-public-not-told-of-problems

beefsteak
14th July 2011, 06:31 PM
SOLID, SCHOLARLY, EXPERT, FUKUSHIMA analysis and update as of 6,16,2011: Dr. Saji.

June 16, 2011 and just released by private party recipient:



Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:19:26 +0900
Subject: Earthquake (DAY 97)
From: Genn Saji

Dear Colleagues:
97th day!

I. I. Recapping on the water purification system
The testing of the third stage, the co-precipitation stage manufactured by AREVA, started later yesterday afternoon for seven hours.

The results demonstrated that the DF of 17,000 to 18,000 in cesium. It is amazing, since I thought co-deposition in the salty water is not feasible. The second stage with the US Kurion’s molecular sieve sorption process has already demonstrated the DF of around 3000. Being encouraged by these successful results, the final integrated test is currently underway, starting around 0:00 AM of June 16 to be continued to 17.

Currently, one standby pump is being used, since a minuscule leakage was observed in one pump. Since the tests are being performed with low level contaminated water, which is harder to remove radioactive species due to the higher salt ratios, it is anticipated that the integrated DF can be higher in both stages for the highly contaminated water. If successful, the water purification system may start commissioning as early as tomorrow. However, one thing I am still concerned is DF for strontium.

The first stage was for oil separation as well as strontium removal. Due to the difficulty of radiological assessment of strontium, the sampling results will become available later I hope.

Although the system worked well as a process for decontamination of highly activated water, the real issue will be whether the system can be kept operation without remote maintenance. In my understanding, the contact dose rate of the water is as high as 1000 mSv.

When the radioactive cesium is absorbed in the molecular sieve material, it should become highly radioactive. It is reported that the sorption materials should be exchanged every day by using a tong with a long handle. How much of worker dose will be from the maintenance activity is the most serious issue. Perhaps it may become necessary to choose either one of these two stages, Kurion’s or AREVA’s, in consideration of worker doses.

In a reprocessing facility, for example, the dose rate is in an order that calls for some kind of remote maintenance provisions, I believe. With no time to provide such, it is likely going to become a real issue.

The processed water is planned to be stored in the tank yard being constructed. If the final radioactive concentration of the treated water achieved lower than the drinking water criteria, it may be able to be discharge into the sea, although this will involve much of political issues. Perhaps an independent verification might be needed to confirm the TEPCO’s claim for activation radiological assessment, if the environmental release is acceptable for the local community.


II. Recapping on air coolers for 1F1-4 spent fuel pools

After successful installation of the air cooler to 1F2 SFP on June 1, 2011, TEPCO is planning to install a similar system to 1F3. Through their inspection by human entry as explained in Earthquke (92), they judged that it is not impossible to do this operation.

The installation will start as early as on June 17, 2011. Similar planning is also projected for 1F1 and 1F4.

In the former 1F1, the atmosphere of the Reactor Building is currently being filter cleaned.

For 1F4, due to bending of the apparently Spent Fuel Pool Cooling and Purification piping, no planning has been released yet. I think the pipe should be OK considering the ductility of this grade of stainless steel, even it is bent. Just test by using a model pipe and see how bad it can be. We have to be concerned with worker dose budget distribution, instead of conservatism in the accident management.

Please visit http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/news/110311/index-e.html and see the video taken on June 9.
Result of radiation dose survey at reactor building of Unit 3 in Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station(ZIP 52.7MB)
(videoed on June 9, 2011)


III. Recapping on accumulation of “radioactive” sludge and ashes
I introduced this issue in Earthquake ( Day 95).

Today a new guideline for disposal of “radioactive” sludge and ashe was released by the National Center of Counter Measures for Nuclear Disasters.

For incineration of sludge,
* furnaces should have filtration to prevent releasing radioactivity.
* sludge and ash should be kept in a shielded facility when the activity is higher than 100,000 Bq/kg.

The way for ultimate disposal is being investigated.

The lower activation wastes can be disposed in the municipal disposal facility with dose to the individual of the nearby residents will not receive more than 10 microSv/y, when the activity level exceed 8000 Bq/kg but less than 100,000 Bq/kg.

For very low activation wastes, lower than 8,000 Bq/kg, can be used for land fill purposes, not for residence purposes, after water proofing.


IV. Recapping on removing contamination from 1F2 reactor building

The filtration system has been in operation since June 11. The aerosol concentration decreased by a factor of 10 for radioactive iodine and 4 for cesium. Since the contamination level is low, TEPCO intends to open the truck entrance door to improve ventilation.


V. Recapping on (3) Crippled “feed and bleed” operation
in Earthquake (95):

Recapping on three months after the earthquake

On this issue, I received a comment from one of my colleagues and realized that I did not explain this issue well, resulting in some misunderstandings. Therefore let me add further explanation.

First of all, the Fukushima Daiichi 1F1 unit has an unique design, even different from 1F2-4. Obviously this difference resulted in somewhat different accident sequence. One of the largest differences is in its “Shutdown Cooling System”, instead of the “Isolation Cooling System” used in 1F2-4.

Attached please find an English translation (Saji's attachment is missing) of the corresponding illustration released by METI in:
(in Japanese, www.meti.go.jp/earthquake/nuclear/backdrop/pdf/04-accident.pdf (http://www.meti.go.jp/earthquake/nuclear/backdrop/pdf/04-accident.pdf) ). EDIT: several drawings, charts, and one un-released jam packed spent fuel pool later in the 121pg pdf file.

The “shutdown cooling system” is sometimes called “shutdown condenser” which takes the steam directly from the reactor pressure vessel, cooled through the heat exchanger as shown in the top illustration.

It is necessary for the condenser to be fed with cooling water from the Reactor Component Cooling Water, from where the heat is released to the ultimate heat sink.

For water injection into the reactor vessel, as shown in the bottom illustration, there is a diesel-driven pump, which can take water from the filtered water tank and inject the water directly into the reactor pressure vessel. If this system worked even after arrival of the tsunami, this should have provided essential water for the “feed and bleed” operation.

To confirm this, I reviewed the list of major events of 1F1 during March 11 to 12. Let me extract some of the key issues below:

March 11
14:46 Seismic trip
14:52 14:52 Automatic IC start
15:03 IC stopped, manually re-started several times
15:07 PCV spray pump started started to cool suppression chamber (means water injection from S/P to the RPV?)
15:37 Station blackout
21:19 Preparing the diesel-driven fire fighting pump (D/D FP) to feed water to IC (indicating the shell side?)
21:35 Supplying water from D/D FP to IC
22:00 Reactor water level +550 from the top of the effective fuel (TAF) (this level agrees with my estimation)

March 12
00:30 Feeding water to the IC (shell side) through the fire fighting system
02:30 RPV water level TAF +1,300 (A) and TAF + 550 (B)
05:46 Pure water injection started by a fire engine
06:30 Completed injection of 2,000 liters through D/D FP line into Reactor Spray System (CS)
07:55 RPV water level TAF-100 to 200 (A) and TAF-100 to 200
07:55 Completed injection of 3,000 liter through FP line
08:30 Completed injection of 5,000 liter through FP line
09:15 Completed injection of 6,000 liter through FP line
09:15 Venting started
09:40 Completed injection of 21,000 liter through FP line
12:55 RPV water level TAF ミ1700 (A) and TAF-1500 (B)
14:53 Completed injection of 8,000 liter through FP line
15:36 Hydrogen explosion
19:04 Sea water injection (w/o boron) started

In all together, I presumed that the reactor core was in the water, even just at the bottom, until around 13:00 on March 12.

During this time “feed and bleed” decay heat removal was maintained through Automatic Release and Safety Valves.

The water injection was terminated for about 6 hours, until the sea water injection was started at 19:04. During this time, the fuels can be overheated. However, it is AFTER experiencing the hydrogen explosion.

Therefore, I believe the root case of the hydrogen generation is more through radiolytic decomposition of water, instead of zirconium-steam reaction.

However, since 1F1 process computer went dead upon the station blackout and no data could have been recovered, the event sequence is much uncertain.

In addition, there is a possibility that the RPV level gauges may not be showing the real values, due to a possible “internal hydrogen explosion”. I believe the “internal hydrogen explosion” occurred at around 23:00 of March 11, showing a high dose rates inside of the turbine hall.

Well, let me stop here today,
Genn Saji ====================

Points of elevated notice on my part:

1 ) Implications of dumped cesium previously thought "safe into sea water"...are FALSE! What does that say about the thousands and thousands and THOUSANDS of tons of water dumped later, during May/June.

NO WONDER THE SEA LIFE HAS BEEN MAJORLY CONTAMINATED!!! WE'RE SHROOMED, and continuously being "reinforced by more Cesium bearing 'leaks/dumps' ."

Good GOD ABOVE HAVE MERCY! QUICKLY!!! INCLINE THINE EAR!

2 ) Reduced Radioactivity levels due to "filtration" permitted truck doors to open. I can't help but wonder how this co-incides with the major "was it steam/was it fog" live Fukushima vid captured in nighttime vid and now posted on the net? ? ? ?

3 ) This is the FIRST time I've heard or read of any delineation of Fukushima 1 being different than 2-4. Hmmmmm

Anyone else notice anything of interest?


beefsteak

PatColo
15th July 2011, 01:04 AM
Japan Becoming "Unhinged" As Radiation Spread "Almost Willfully" (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/815/228/Japan_Becoming_Unhinged_As_Radiation_Spread_Almost _Willfully.html)


Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:38


http://img.hindilinks4u.net/2011/05/Discovery-Channel-Nuclear-Nightmare-Japan-in-Crisis-2011.jpeg (http://img.hindilinks4u.net/2011/05/Discovery-Channel-Nuclear-Nightmare-Japan-in-Crisis-2011.jpeg)
I have a distinct feeling that Japan is getting totally unhinged.

Consider these news summaries. Consider them together. Do they make sense to you? Yes they do, don't they? The combined message is this: Let's all rejoice in the radiation, it's good for you and your children. If we all have it everywhere, millions of becquerels of it, that's only fair and equitable.


4,320 becquerels/kg of radioactive cesium found from the beef from Minami Soma City, Fukushima: the cattle farm that shipped cows found with radioactive cesium far exceeding the already loose provisional safety limit of 500 becquerels/kg is located in the "emergency evacuation-ready zone" - not even "the planned evacuation zone" or plain "evacuation zone", both of which do exist in Minami Soma City. (Various posts at this blog (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/search/label/radioactive%20beef))
The PM assistant and the current Minister in charge of the nuclear accident at Fukushima I Nuke Plant Goshi Hosono is going to announce the abolition of the "emergency evacuation-ready zone", because "the 1st step in TEPCO's "roadmap" has been mostly successfully implemented".
Fukushima Prefecture has announced it will shut down the official shelters within Fukushima, which will force them to go back to their own homes.
Minami-Soma City has issued notice to all 32,000 city residents who have been living in the shelters, temporary housing outside Fukushima Prefecture that they must return to Minami-Soma, high radiation or not. (Mainichi Yamagata version (http://mainichi.jp/area/yamagata/news/20110712ddlk06040136000c.html), 7/12/2011)
The national government will spend 100 billion yen (US$1.26 billion) to observe the health of 2 million Fukushima residents for 30 years, instead of evacuating them ASAP. About 1600 yen (US$20) per year per resident. Life is cheap. Since the national government is utterly broke, it will be ultimately paid for by the taxpayers of Japan.
Remember, Dr. Shunichi Yamashita (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/search/label/Shunichi%20Yamashita) will be the vice president of the Fukushima Medical University who will do the observation and research.
Matsudo City in Chiba Prefecture found 47,400 becquerels/kg of radioactive cesium in the ashes from the city's garbage incinerator, but the city simply mixed with other ashes with low radiation to bring the final number to 5,660 becquerels/kg. Since the final mixed ashes measured LOWER than the provisional limit for burying the ashes (8,000 becquerels/kg), the city already buried the ashes and will continue to do so. (Mainichi Chiba version (http://mainichi.jp/area/chiba/news/20110713ddlk12040214000c.html), 7/13/2011)
On the other hand, Nagareyama City in Chiba Prefecture simply sent 30 tonnes of its radioactive ashes (27,000 becquerels/kg) from its incinerator by cargo train to Odate City in Akita Prefecture in Tohoku. Nagareyama City has a contract with a private waste disposal company in Odate City in Akita. This waste disposal company is not a nuclear waste disposal company; as far as I could tell from the description of the company, it is just a regular waste disposal company. (Sponichi (http://www.sponichi.co.jp/society/news/2011/07/12/kiji/K20110712001195770.html), 7/12/2011) FULL STORY HERE (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/07/radiation-in-japan-as-it-is-being.html)

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/815/228/Japan_Becoming_Unhinged_As_Radiation_Spread_Almost _Willfully.html

beefsteak
15th July 2011, 09:02 AM
Thank you, PatColo for that eye-opening, mind bending, gut-wrenching report.

This "go home and we'll monitor you for 30 years, while you get sicker" is another, over the top repugnant as anything I've heard so far.

I have no answers. I do know what they are requiring people to move back into is WRONG!

Couldn't we spare a several thousand FEMA trailers and have the NAVY deliver them free of charge?? In 120 days since disaster, the govt could have whipped out a hellaciously large "trailer park" for temporary housing. The Chinese can move hundreds of thousands to build dams. Couldn't the Japanese move some dirt, lay some pipe, pave some pads and move in mfg housing? They are most assuredly larger than the cardboard hovels in the gymnasiums, yes?

Absolutely unconscionable. And totally predictive of what downwinders of Ft Calhoun, and Los Alamos have to look forward to.
We're certainly no shining light on a hill when it comes to nuke disasters, cover up, etc. The only difference I see is that there was no $12,800-ish stipend payment to the 20km affected downwinders here...

Continue to enjoy seeing you pop in here, PatColo. You seem to be one of those who perceives and not just "sees"... Good on you, brother/sister.


beefsteak

PatColo
15th July 2011, 09:39 AM
thanks for your kind words beef. This thread is a treasure trove of quality info & analysis, due in large part to your taking this unfolding "disaster" so seriously, in the face of strategic omission by the ZioStream Media.


Thank you, PatColo for that eye-opening, mind bending, gut-wrenching report.

This "go home and we'll monitor you for 30 years, while you get sicker" is another, over the top repugnant as anything I've heard so far.

I have no answers. I do know what they are requiring people to move back into is WRONG!

"depopulation agenda" ::)

MNeagle
15th July 2011, 09:46 AM
Thank you, PatColo for that eye-opening, mind bending, gut-wrenching report.

This "go home and we'll monitor you for 30 years, while you get sicker" is another, over the top repugnant as anything I've heard so far.

I have no answers. I do know what they are requiring people to move back into is WRONG!



Continue to enjoy seeing you pop in here, PatColo. You seem to be one of those who perceives and not just "sees"... Good on you, brother/sister.


beefsteak

+ 10 Beefsteak!

Serpo
15th July 2011, 01:26 PM
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s deputies arrested an illegal immigrant working inside the Palo Verde Nuclear Plant, the nation’s largest nuclear plant and one of the most closely monitored in the country. [...]

“To some extent,” Arpaio says, “security at this nuclear power plant worked. But still, an illegal immigrant was permitted to gain access to this facility. This raises the question: how safe is Palo Verde really if an illegal alien can gain access to this nation’s largest nuclear power facility? [...]

Two different people working in security at the power plant also told Sheriff’s officials that drivers of contractor’s vehicles can “vouch” for the passengers if no identification documents are on hand at the time of entry. [...]

http://enenews.com/illegal-immigrant-working-inside-largest-nuke-facility-arrested

Serpo
15th July 2011, 01:29 PM
Japan Becoming "Unhinged" As Radiation Spread "Almost Willfully" (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/815/228/Japan_Becoming_Unhinged_As_Radiation_Spread_Almost _Willfully.html)


Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:38


http://img.hindilinks4u.net/2011/05/Discovery-Channel-Nuclear-Nightmare-Japan-in-Crisis-2011.jpeg (http://img.hindilinks4u.net/2011/05/Discovery-Channel-Nuclear-Nightmare-Japan-in-Crisis-2011.jpeg)
I have a distinct feeling that Japan is getting totally unhinged.

Consider these news summaries. Consider them together. Do they make sense to you? Yes they do, don't they? The combined message is this: Let's all rejoice in the radiation, it's good for you and your children. If we all have it everywhere, millions of becquerels of it, that's only fair and equitable.


4,320 becquerels/kg of radioactive cesium found from the beef from Minami Soma City, Fukushima: the cattle farm that shipped cows found with radioactive cesium far exceeding the already loose provisional safety limit of 500 becquerels/kg is located in the "emergency evacuation-ready zone" - not even "the planned evacuation zone" or plain "evacuation zone", both of which do exist in Minami Soma City. (Various posts at this blog (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/search/label/radioactive%20beef))
The PM assistant and the current Minister in charge of the nuclear accident at Fukushima I Nuke Plant Goshi Hosono is going to announce the abolition of the "emergency evacuation-ready zone", because "the 1st step in TEPCO's "roadmap" has been mostly successfully implemented".
Fukushima Prefecture has announced it will shut down the official shelters within Fukushima, which will force them to go back to their own homes.
Minami-Soma City has issued notice to all 32,000 city residents who have been living in the shelters, temporary housing outside Fukushima Prefecture that they must return to Minami-Soma, high radiation or not. (Mainichi Yamagata version (http://mainichi.jp/area/yamagata/news/20110712ddlk06040136000c.html), 7/12/2011)
The national government will spend 100 billion yen (US$1.26 billion) to observe the health of 2 million Fukushima residents for 30 years, instead of evacuating them ASAP. About 1600 yen (US$20) per year per resident. Life is cheap. Since the national government is utterly broke, it will be ultimately paid for by the taxpayers of Japan.
Remember, Dr. Shunichi Yamashita (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/search/label/Shunichi%20Yamashita) will be the vice president of the Fukushima Medical University who will do the observation and research.
Matsudo City in Chiba Prefecture found 47,400 becquerels/kg of radioactive cesium in the ashes from the city's garbage incinerator, but the city simply mixed with other ashes with low radiation to bring the final number to 5,660 becquerels/kg. Since the final mixed ashes measured LOWER than the provisional limit for burying the ashes (8,000 becquerels/kg), the city already buried the ashes and will continue to do so. (Mainichi Chiba version (http://mainichi.jp/area/chiba/news/20110713ddlk12040214000c.html), 7/13/2011)
On the other hand, Nagareyama City in Chiba Prefecture simply sent 30 tonnes of its radioactive ashes (27,000 becquerels/kg) from its incinerator by cargo train to Odate City in Akita Prefecture in Tohoku. Nagareyama City has a contract with a private waste disposal company in Odate City in Akita. This waste disposal company is not a nuclear waste disposal company; as far as I could tell from the description of the company, it is just a regular waste disposal company. (Sponichi (http://www.sponichi.co.jp/society/news/2011/07/12/kiji/K20110712001195770.html), 7/12/2011) FULL STORY HERE (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/07/radiation-in-japan-as-it-is-being.html)

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/815/228/Japan_Becoming_Unhinged_As_Radiation_Spread_Almost _Willfully.html

Yes Japan becoming unhinged or is it showing them(those in control) in their true light ...........er totally unhinged.........the radiation maybe eating out their brain cells.

beefsteak
15th July 2011, 02:21 PM
http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/11_Photo_of_Day/11_Photos/110715.Sunflowers.jpg

ORIGINAL CAPTION: Sunflowers planted by local elemenary school children grow in the tsunami hit field in in Natori, in Miyagi prefecture, July 15. Japan has campaign to grow sunflowers to help decontaminate radioactive soil, in response to the Fukushima nuclear disaster that followed March's massive quake and tsunami. (Yoshikazu Tsuno / AFP - Getty)






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Reminds me of an earlier thread post.

Only problem is: the disposal of the sunflowers...and their very delectable seeds? Has to be a complete remediation package...sunflower "lipstick" on the "radiation" pig simply will NOT do!

I'm afraid this is more M.O.P./PR


beefsteak

Serpo
15th July 2011, 03:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eEnjspPBoY&feature=player_embedded#at=154


Interview with Willem Malten of the Los Alamos Study Group, PressTV, July 14, 2011:

At :25 in

[...] Now monsoon rains threaten to flood whole communities with contaminants such as plutonium, uranium and mercury, he said in an interview with Press TV’s U.S. Desk on Wednesday.

He said “there is a frantic community effort under way with mainly Native Americans sandbagging their own homelands” [...]

http://enenews.com/monsoon-rains-threaten-flood-los-alamos-area-plutonium-uranium-frantic-sandbagging-effort-video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIYbf_mw7Yk&feature=player_embedded

Serpo
15th July 2011, 03:29 PM
Those sunflowers remind me a lot of the sun..........sun power......great photo.....beauty and the beast

gunDriller
15th July 2011, 11:56 PM
Those sunflowers remind me a lot of the sun..........sun power......great photo.....beauty and the beast

that's a safer place to have one's nuclear reactor ... 93 million miles away.

i wonder if some of those sunflowers will turn into Mutants with interesting characteristics. like grow 6 feet across, so you can harvest a full gallon of oil from one head. normally it works out to about 25 gallons of oil per acre of sunflower.

plus you get a whole bunch of sunflower seed mash ... goats really like that.

beefsteak
16th July 2011, 07:42 AM
OH Great Glowing Goats! Whatta thought, gunny.;D

Dogman
16th July 2011, 07:48 AM
OH Great Glowing Goats! Whatta thought, gunny.;D

Yea

Goats that would not need the leds like theses sheep. ;D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2FX9rviEhw

beefsteak
16th July 2011, 10:32 AM
That's terrific, Dogman. You lite up my life has just taking on a whoooooole new meaning! har har har

keehah
17th July 2011, 12:41 AM
More red dot art. It is pre-Fukushima Fukushima.

Where the Wild Things Are - The Creatures (2003)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFiVHKsfg9w

Serpo
17th July 2011, 01:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfgYRIGjNkA&feature=email

Serpo
17th July 2011, 01:58 AM
that's a safer place to have one's nuclear reactor ... 93 million miles away.

i wonder if some of those sunflowers will turn into Mutants with interesting characteristics. like grow 6 feet across, so you can harvest a full gallon of oil from one head. normally it works out to about 25 gallons of oil per acre of sunflower.

plus you get a whole bunch of sunflower seed mash ... goats really like that.

Gotta dispose of the sun flowers which isnt easy

Serpo
17th July 2011, 02:03 AM
Japan's citizen scientists map radiation, DIY-style
By Miranda Leitsinger, Senior Writer and Editor, msnbc.com

With the Japanese government only providing spotty information about the radiation leaking from the damaged Fukushima nuclear plant in the early days after the devastating March 11 earthquake and tsunami, a group of tech-minded citizen scientists set out to fill in the “black holes” in the knowledge base.

They did so by crafting their own Geiger counters and handing them out to volunteers in the disaster area to measure the fallout. Months later, they have assembled thousands of radiation readings plotted on maps that they hope will one day be an invaluable resource for researchers studying the impact of the meltdown at the crippled nuclear complex

The volunteer network of scientists, tech enthusiasts and residents of Japan collectively known as Safecast (an amalgam of “safety” and “broadcast”) sprang to life in the weeks after the devastating 9.0-magnitude earthquake and tsunami struck Japan, cutting off power to the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station and knocking out its backup generators. That shut down the plant’s cooling system, triggering meltdowns or partial meltdowns in three of the plant’s four reactors, followed by explosions that released radioactive substances into the air and allowed contaminated water to leak into the ocean.

“For the scientific community, this is a huge chance to further understand what this all means,” said Pieter Franken, co-founder of Safecast and a senior researcher at Keio University in Tokyo, which is collaborating on the project. “Chernobyl was 25 years ago and delivered lots of information. But we’re now in the Internet age, and we have a huge opportunity to do a much better job in measuring it and tracking it.”

Residents in the surrounding areas were understandably alarmed, but in the early days after the disaster, information from the government came in bits and pieces, and was difficult to find.

Franken and Sean Bonner, a Los Angeles-based technology buff involved in numerous online citizen-involved projects, saw an opportunity to use technology to augment the government’s reports and to make the information widely available.

The pair found Uncorked Studios, a Portland, Ore., website development firm, which wanted to map the radiation numbers from all sources “to try to get a better picture of things on a larger scale,” Bonner said.

'Unknowns'
The initial effort resulted in a map that revealed the dearth of information available: “We realized that there were some massive holes and that the data that was being published was not that specific,” said Bonner. “There would be one reading for an entire city. But we wouldn’t know exactly where in the city that reading was taken.”
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With so many “unknowns,” the group decided to buy as many Geiger counters as possible and distribute them to people in the map’s “black holes,” Bonner said. But that wasn’t feasible because the supply of the radiation-measuring devices was limited, he said.

So Safecast turned to a source they knew well: Hackerspaces, a loose confederation of high-tech tinkerers around the globe.

The TokyoHackerSpace had already drafted a to-do list in the disaster’s aftermath that included radiation monitoring. But with Safecast’s encouragement, the group stepped up its efforts. Members soon figured out how to build basic Geiger counters with Geiger tubes (which measure radiation) purchased through an initial fundraising campaign and modified so they could be attached to vehicles and upload data to the Internet, Christopher Wang, a specialist in sensor networks also known by his hacker nickname of “Akiba,” wrote in an email to msnbc.com.

After meeting Safecast, the hackers decided the best use of the jury-rigged devices would be to drive around taking measurements, allowing one “Geiger counter to cover a huge amount of range,” Wang wrote.

“We put together a custom circuit board that would mount on the outside of a car and had GPS (for timestamp and location data), an input for the Geiger counter, an SD card slot (for data logging), and wireless communication (to send the data inside the car and let the driver know if they are in an area with high radiation)," he said.

Other hackerspaces around the world -- such as CRASH space in Los Angeles -- soon enlisted in the effort and before long Safecast had the resources to launch an ambitious measuring and mapping effort.


Safecast.org

Components of the jury-rigged Geiger counters.

While signing up volunteers, Safecast also developed a training regimen so the recruits would be able to take reliable readings with the instruments and send the data to the group.

Having average citizens involved was crucial, Franken said.

“We want to bring the radiation levels to people's doorstep, so people can see around their house what is happening,” he said.

Safecast took its first reading on April 16. Today, it has about 50 regular volunteers who collect data from their homes or while driving, build devices or assist in other ways. Those using vehicles equipped with Geiger counters cover an area that Franken estimates to be about 620 miles long by 185 miles wide. To date, they’ve collected 251,000 data points from their drives and fixed reporting stations, and have received about 60,000 more from other sources, including people with their own Geiger counters.
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Safecast publishes the data on its website and publishes it to a number of other places so the information can be used by the greatest number of people, Bonner said. It also aggregates radiation data from a number of sources, including the Japanese government.


Safecast.org

A Safecast map shows radiation readings from northeastern Japan.

The color-coded maps that Safecast has published don’t always agree with the government’s readings. But Franken said the effort isn’t intended to suggest that the government’s information is bad. The government currently has available a website with the readings of environmental radioactivity level by prefecture.

“We really don’t want to say that the government is wrong,” he said. “And, in fact, in many cases we find that the measurements are fairly much in sync where they are comparable -- we have just much more data points and locations measured.”

For example, Safecast’s mapping has revealed some radiation hotspots far from the plant, while other areas closer to it show lower levels. This is due to local weather conditions and air flow, meaning distribution of radioactive materials is not just a matter of proximity, Franken said.

“It's not so predictable and it really pays to go and map the whole area, and literally find areas that are higher or lower as we go,” he said, noting that in some cases radiation levels can vary by street and even within a home.

"It's kind of a heavy task because it requires a certain amount of guts to go and do it," he said of the volunteers, noting he had recently trained a woman and her 12-year-old son in Fukushima City how to measure radiation.

Anxiety
But knowing what the levels are has helped ease some of the anxiety over the radiation exposure, Franken said.

“The measurements may or may not affect people's decisions but in many cases we see that it more or less gives a sense of confidence that this is what it is and, ‘yeah, I'm going to stay and this is probably going to be manageable,’ or ‘no, I really don’t want to take the risk for my family, I’m going to avoid this.’”

One of the volunteers helping in the effort is Brett Waterman, a 46-year-old Australian who runs an English-language after-school program for children nearly 30 miles from the Fukushima plant, in the city of Iwaki. He has been surveying the radiation levels using a Geiger counter mounted on his car.

“There are many people who have decided that the lack of information implied that there was too much risk so they just decided to leave,” he said.

But through his work, he has learned that the radiation levels were low in the area.
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“We can’t see it, but if we map it out, like we are doing street by street, we can sort of start to see it in a sense. We can get a picture of what this radiation stuff is,” he said.

His 13-year-old son is a “significant motivator” for him to take the readings. He noted that though residents don’t yet know what the long-term effects of the radiation will be, the information will be key in the future.

“In 10 years or 20 years’ time, you can’t go back to three months after the event and then find out what the data was like. But if we record it now, and then we continue to record it over the months and years to come, then from a scientific and a community point of view there is a database that can be referenced.”

Some researchers and government agencies welcome Safecast's endeavor. Andrew Maidment, associate professor of radiology at the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania, said the efforts were “necessary and helpful,” though he added two “cautionary notes.”

“The first is that the data are only useful, if it is clear (1) how the measurements were performed and (2) exactly where the measurements are performed,” he wrote in an email to msnbc.com. “In general, it is very easy to get erroneous measurements; consistency in following a specific protocol and lots of practice are necessary to do this right. … However, I will say that the data looks consistent since there are repeated measurements and they are spatially correlated. The second problem is that interpretation of the data is hard. Thus, the use of a color code is questionable.”

See msnbc.com's Japan series: "After the Wave"

Japan’s Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology did not respond to emails and a call seeking comment on the project.

The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission said it was not in a position to comment on the initiative, but public affairs officer Scott Burnell noted in an email: “Speaking very generally, significant training and specialized equipment is required to provide the most accurate surveying and analysis of radioactive materials in the environment.”

Franken said Safecast encouraged dialogue with critics and supporters: “We feel that it is good to have an independent measurement available to people ... I think just having more is probably better,” he said.

And Bonner said the initiative has the potential to eventually extend far beyond Japan.

“What all of this did sort of brought to light the fact that this data doesn't exist in the quantities that it should and is not as readily available as would be helpful,” he said. “So while Japan is the focus at the moment, you know, longer term we sort of are shifting to a global outlook. There is a lot more ground to cover once everything in Japan is wrapped up.”

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gunDriller
17th July 2011, 02:35 AM
OH Great Glowing Goats! Whatta thought, gunny.;D

then you can graze your goat herds at night. scares the coyotes away.

Serpo
17th July 2011, 03:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WqHqwKJ3Gg&feature=uploademai

PatColo
17th July 2011, 03:57 AM
Fukushima highly radiated United States water, food cover-up by feds continues (http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/fukushima-highly-radiated-united-states-water-food-cover-up-by-feds-continues)

Serpo
17th July 2011, 06:34 PM
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/busted.html


http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/order.html

gunDriller
18th July 2011, 05:53 AM
Fukushima highly radiated United States water, food cover-up by feds continues (http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/fukushima-highly-radiated-united-states-water-food-cover-up-by-feds-continues)

i was feeling stupid because i had made a mini-greenhouse to start my food plants, so they could get sun light but no radiation rain.

maybe that wasn't so dumb after all !

i'm gonna need a bigger greenhouse.

not worried about my other plants (trees & fuel plants - sunflowers, peanuts, pumpkins).

beefsteak
18th July 2011, 06:37 AM
Gunny, congrats on your follow-through. Nothing dumb about your conceptulization nor execution.
Bigger greenhouse? How many you feedin' anyhow? (serious question). That's the hardest thing to try to figure out when growing "captive food" and how do you keep it secure from marauders or terrorist neighbors? (serious question also)


beefsteak

Dogman
18th July 2011, 06:54 AM
i was feeling stupid because i had made a mini-greenhouse to start my food plants, so they could get sun light but no radiation rain.

maybe that wasn't so dumb after all !

i'm gonna need a bigger greenhouse.

not worried about my other plants (trees & fuel plants - sunflowers, peanuts, pumpkins).


Gunny, congrats on your follow-through. Nothing dumb about your conceptulization nor execution.
Bigger greenhouse? How many you feedin' anyhow? (serious question). That's the hardest thing to try to figure out when growing "captive food" and how do you keep it secure from marauders or terrorist neighbors? (serious question also)


beefsteak

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Always build your greenhouse larger than you think you may need. You can never know when problems may arise and your crops may not be as big as they should, more square footage planted is sort of an insurance against that. If you grow more than your family needs, selling the excess at farmers markets or even giving away to friends is an option.
The main thing is never build too small, some will say also you can never build too large. You can always partition off what is not needed for the season.

Serpo
18th July 2011, 02:58 PM
For almost three months the bad nuclear news has been shouting at us, warning us, but even the professionals in the area of toxicity are not abandoning their lives or homes. Is it an everyone-goes-down-with-the-ship paradigm that has a hold on these people? The invisible but hot magna of nuclear toxicity is our latest inheritance and few will escape it though there are many things we can do to diminish radiations nasty effects.

It is the young who have the most to lose in all of this and it seems some are already losing their lives over it. For some, evacuation orders are already too late but no official word will ever be said about this silent tragedy.

In this video we are looking at nuclear hell on earth, a night film of the radioactive steam that continues to rise from Fukushima 24 hours a day. Arnie Gundersen, a former nuclear power industry executive, is one of the experts who has been saying from day one that the nuclear crisis in Japan was much worse than they were telling us.

He was absolutely correct. Finally, three months later we are getting some numbers on what the real dangers are. And finally we can begin to understand the enormous cover-up of the nuclear doom that is reaching lungs all over the west coast of America, Canada, Alaska, Hawaii and at least half of Japan! For infants it's a terrible valley of death we have created for them. As we shall see for years all of them have been born with already polluted bloodstreams and now the very young ones are dying in greater numbers on the west coast of the United States since Fukushima blew up.

After the first week, officials had enough information to call for evacuation of a wide area in Japan and also Hawaii, Alaska and the entire west coast of North America. They really should have evacuated all of northern Japan and also the west coast but that was almost as impossible as evacuating the entire planet or the entire northern hemisphere.

Evacuation of planet earth might be the best way for humanity to avoid the terrible nuclear, heavy metal and chemical toxicity we are now facing all at the same time. Avoiding exposure is always the best plan but there is no way to avoid breathing in air contaminated with tiny hot particles. Inhalation issues are much more frightening than ingestion issues because you can pick and choose what you eat and drink but you can't buy bottled air.

Nuclear Toxicity Syndrome is about how to survive in nuclear and chemical hell. But one cannot do what is necessary to survive hell if a person doesn't know they are living in one. It just keeps getting worse by the day and now we have Fort Calhoun nuclear plant outside Omaha, Nebraska on emergency alert as first fire and now flooding threatens to overwhelm yet another nuclear facility. With Mother Nature now angry (in a most bitter sense) we are really in more serious trouble than any of us would be comfortable imagining. We knew nuke power plants were bad news but who would think they would build them on fault lines or in flood zones?



On CNN Arnie was asked, "So should people on the west coast be worried? Gundersen side-stepped just a bit saying, "Well, the average person breathes in about 10 cubic meters a day, and the filters out there for April show that they were breathing in, per day, about five particles. Now these are charged, which is why we call them ‘fuel fleas' since they latch onto lung tissue. We're at a point now where you just can't run from the particles that are still in the air. We call them ‘fuel fleas' also because they're incredibly small, smaller than the thickness of your hair."

That's Mr. Gundersen's way of saying, yes, there are definite risks tied to these "hot particles." But that really does not answer the question. I am afraid I will have to be brutally honest and be the bearer of really terrible news. The information coming out about hot particle concentrations near Fukushima, Tokyo, and now Seattle tell us that not only should all those populations be worrying but their governments should have been issuing evacuation orders months ago.

CNN's John King interviews Arnie Gundersen about the Hot Particles discovered in Japan and the US.

They did not of course except in a too-tight circle around Fukushima, which is getting 40 times more than in Tokyo or Seattle. Because of the jet stream in April, after the large explosions that destroyed three reactor buildings, it was as dangerous in Seattle and much of the west coast of North America as in Tokyo.

It only takes one of these particles to trigger a cancer.

A new report from independent scientists in Japan found a much greater release of "hot particles" from the Fukushima power plant than originally estimated. These include radioactive isotopes of cesium, strontium, uranium, plutonium, cobalt-60 and many others. The average person in Tokyo is thought to have inhaled 10 "hot particles" per day throughout the month of April 2011. The inhabitants of Fukushima were estimated to have inhaled 30-40 times more than that -- or up to 400 hot particles per day every day that month. In Seattle, WA in the Northwestern U.S., it is estimated that the average person absorbed five "hot particles" per day during the month of April 2011, or 10 "hot particles" per day if they are athletes who are working out. These invisible atomic particles become lodged in your lungs, intestines, bone or muscle.

Professor Christopher Busby, scientific secretary of the European Committee on radiation risks, says that fuel rods at Fukushima got blown sky high, that concentrations of uranium and plutonium particles had been detected in air filters in Hawaii and the Marianas Islands by the end of April. So people knew about this but they were not talking.

Gundersen says, "Well, the radiation initially comes out as a big cloud of gases, and that's what you can measure with a Geiger counter. But now what we're finding are these things called ‘hot particles,' and in the industry it's interesting because in Seattle it didn't go down much. It was about five particles a day, because most of the time, as we talked about in April, the wind was blowing toward the west coast."

A hot particle is defined as an alpha-emitting particle that contains sufficient activity to deliver at least 1000 rem/yr to the surrounding lung tissue.

Severe damage and disruption of tissue in the lungs are associated with exposure to these types of nuclear particles. The most relevant lung experiment is Bair's Pu 23902 inhalation study with beagles. Twenty of the 21 dogs that survived more than 1600 days post exposure had lung cancer.

The government recommends that the maximum permissible lung particle burden for members of the public be 0.2 hot particles, and the average lung burden for members of the public be 0.07 hot particles, a factor of 3 less than the maximum.

Let's say that the official numbers were five "hot particles" per day (10 if one is physically active outdoors) for everyone on the west coast for the month of April. Now let us be very conservative and say that this has dropped from the initially high post-explosion levels at Fukushima down now to one a day. At one a day that would still be 30 of these death particles a month. So perhaps the average person has already absorbed in these three months approximately 200 radioactive particles into their lungs and other tissues. When you think that if even one of these 200 is plutonium, we have to think in terms of millions of eventual cancer deaths!

Arnie Gundersen - Nebraska Nuclear Plant: Emergency Level 4 & Getting Worse.

All of these hot particles will burn the local tissues. They will compromise health in a myriad of ways. But doctors will stand by not having a clue what to tell their patients to do except receive more radiation diagnostic scans and more radiation treatments for cancer patients. The allopathic paradigm will not survive Fukushima because it is utterly ignorant about the approaches that stand a chance of helping us get through this.

Gundersen says, "That's why we were warning you to wash your lettuce and things like that. Now what that means is that these hot particles can lodge in your lung or in your digestive tract or in your bone and, over time, cause a cancer. But they're way too small to be picked up on a large radiation detector." This is one of the reasons many people felt something wrong in the first weeks after the radiation started pouring out of Japan. Sensitive people will register such an invasion of hostile chemical and radioactive toxicity even though radiation detectors will not.

Gundersen understandably would have a hard time telling people how bad it really is. He is not a doctor but he knows full well what only one particle of plutonium will do to surrounding lung tissues. How does anyone tell 200 million people to get out of Dodge or tell them it's already too late since health-damaging contamination has already taken place?

Evacuation is the only way to avoid continued exposure but hardly anyone perceives it this way. I received a letter from someone in southern California today asking if it was okay to go to Hawaii for a vacation. My real answer to her was you should abandon not only your travel plans but also your home in L.A. and move to the southern hemisphere.

"Geiger counters simply cannot measure whether or not someone has ingested a hot particle but we know they're here because the air filters have measured these radioactive particles and they've been found in the topsoil, in water supplies and in the milk produced on both coasts of the U.S. This suggests that the same would be true of the meat of any livestock raised outdoors -- and of the vegetables grown outdoors," says Gundersen.

Hot Particle


Photo by Del Tredici,Burdens of Proofby Tim Connor,
Energy Research Foundation (1997)

A photograph of a monkey's lung is shown, with a major depression at its center where a "hot particle" is embedded in the tissue. This is a photo of a "hot particle", in this case a one-micron particle of plutonium, and it shows the alpha tracks emitted from that particle in one year. This particle has bombarded the surrounding tissue with radiation and damaged it quite dramatically -- just one particle. Gundersen says the body will fight off an irritant such as this and it will usually win but sometimes a hot particle will cause cancer. They will all put wear and tear on infected people's immune systems.

You really do not want even one of these hot little pieces of sun burning in your tissues.

Plutonium in Lung Tissue: The dark, star-like image in the above photograph (magnified 500 times) shows tracks from alpha particles radiating from a speck of plutonium lodged in the lung tissue of an ape. Alpha radiation from plutonium and other alpha-emitting radionuclides can be blocked by skin or even a piece of paper but it is the most biologically destructive form of ionizing radiation when the alpha-emitting substance is deposited in the soft tissue of internal organs like the lung. The alpha tracks shown above were captured over a two-day period.

These hot particles result in an intense but highly localized irradiation.

The damaged number three reactor was in its first fuel cycle using MOX nuclear fuel with plutonium. If this MOX reactor goes into full meltdown spewing plutonium dust across Japan and everywhere else, it is lights out via cancer for anyone who breathes the stuff. The half-life of various plutonium isotopes ranges from minutes to 80 million years. Plutonium-239 has a half-life of 24,100 years meaning it takes that long to lose half of its radioactive potency -- nothing compared to depleted uranium, which counts its time in billions of years. Uranium-235 has a half-life of 700 million years. And caesium, which tends to go airborne easily, has a half-life of 30 years.

The fuel rods at all six reactors at the stricken Fukushima Daiichi complex contain plutonium. Only six percent of the fuel rods at the plant's unit 3 were a mixture of plutonium-239 and uranium-235 when first put into operation. The fuel in other reactors is only uranium, but plutonium is created during the fission process. This means the fuel in all of the stricken reactors and spent fuel pools contain plutonium. Plutonium is super nasty stuff, especially damaging to lungs and kidneys. Inhaling or ingesting only one radioactive particle of plutonium can cause cancer.

Valley of Death

In Nuclear Toxicity Syndrome you will read about the dangers we are all facing, especially for those billions who live in the northern hemisphere. If you have not noticed, things are getting real dangerous out there and the media is going to make sure you are blindsided by events they will not inform you of until it is too late.

This is a tough book and it's going to face you with some very frightening information. Though the main thrust is nuclear radiation, we also will look at mercury as an invisible chemical cloud that has contaminated everything. Lead too is still a problem but they don't inject lead into babies or plant it in people's mouths like they do with mercury, a heavy metal more toxic than lead.

Would you believe they are just now finally stopping the use of a drug (another heavy metal actually) that farmers have given to chickens for decades. Arsenic is being pulled off the market after federal scientists found a potentially carcinogenic form of arsenic in the livers of animals treated with the substance.

In the past two and a half years thousands of workers, villagers and children in at least nine of mainland China's 31 province-level regions have been found to be suffering from toxic levels of lead exposure, mostly caused by pollution from battery factories and metal smelters.

In many areas of the world people are already at death's door from chemical and heavy metal pollution. Pollution has reached a zenith and has gone even higher with huge forest fires that have released huge amounts of radioactive and chemically contaminated soil into the atmosphere. Then we added mega oil disasters and now nuclear hell on earth. Is there any nice way to refer to this disaster? Look at that video again above that is a vision of what human darkness can conjure up.

We might as well have shot ourselves in the head. There is nothing for us humans to be proud of if we honestly sweep our minds across reality as it is presenting itself to us this year. For infants it's a terrible valley of death we have created for them. As we shall see for years all of them have been born with already polluted bloodstreams and now the very young ones are dying in greater numbers since Fukushima blew up.



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Serpo
18th July 2011, 06:38 PM
Fukushima highly radiated United States water, food cover-up by feds continues (http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/fukushima-highly-radiated-united-states-water-food-cover-up-by-feds-continues)

Our government said no health levels, no health levels were exceeded, when in fact, the rain water in the Northwest is reaching levels 130 times the drinking water standards," said (http://www.king5.com/news/environment/High-levels-of-radiation-detected-in-Northwest-rainwater--125391598.html)Gerry Pollet from a non-government organization watchdog, Heart of America Northwest.

Book
18th July 2011, 06:53 PM
Would the sheeple actually be better off knowing about slow global generational radiation poisoning or would it just panic the hell out of them?

Why give 'em a daily dose reading?

PatColo
18th July 2011, 08:41 PM
on rense radio tonight, 3rd hour (21:00 PT), then repeating 3 hours later,

Michael Collins (http://www.enviroreporter.com/)
L.A. Radiation Monitoring From Hong Kong
Yoichi Shimatsu
Fukushima Disaster Worsens

beefsteak
19th July 2011, 02:42 PM
Would the sheeple actually be better off knowing about slow global generational radiation poisoning or would it just panic the hell out of them?

Why give 'em a daily dose reading?

Maybe b/c we're "daily dying from ACCUMULATED, CONTINUOUS still harmful radiation...."
The better question perhaps is why one wouldn't want to know. It's a given, if information is available, then one has the option/power to chose to be informed or to ignore. To withhold VITAL information by "government making decisions for the people" removes power to chose...as in chose life, chose mitigations, chose remediation, chose location.

It's just that simple.

Joe King
19th July 2011, 04:33 PM
To withhold VITAL information by "government making decisions for the people" removes power to chose...as in chose life, chose mitigations, chose remediation, chose location.

It's just that simple.Perhaps they feel that the power to do that has been delegated to them via the peoples general consent to want a "nanny State"?
ie they're making decisions like a parent would for a child.

beefsteak
20th July 2011, 11:11 AM
#15 12th March 2011 08:56 AM General of Darkness (http://gold-silver.us/forum/member.php?3309-General-of-Darkness)
contribution

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/438/fallout.jpg


Slowly but surely, attempting to re-place the vital images in this thread which were once a major part of the enriched GS-US viewing thread experience, and keeping up with this Fukushima disaster.

I'm just sick that they are gone, because I for one referred to them often, when posting elsewhere, or emailing family/friends. Don't know about the rest of you, but I could use some help if anyone wants to pitch in. I'm just on the first page.

Thank you, General for your original post and effort to supply a valuable graphic.


beefsteak

beefsteak
20th July 2011, 11:25 AM
imported_JohnQPublic (http://gold-silver.us/forum/member.php?3280-imported_JohnQPublic)12th March 2011 01:01 PM (http://gold-silver.us/forum/member.php?3280-imported_JohnQPublic)




http://i54.tinypic.com/abi0ll.jpg

Reviewing this graphic in hindsight, I don't know how I missed the tradewinds / Pacific Dead Zone forecast map shown above, aimed directly toward the S. American continent.

And there was talk of "getting our planetary food from S. America" with North America being a directly poisoned downwinder? ? ? ? hmmmm

Looks like the U.S. NRC didn't see it that way. Wonder how I missed this.

Thank you, Admin_John Q Public for your original post and effort to supply a valuable graphic.

beefsteak
20th July 2011, 11:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-mHN91I2E8

Thank you, Vendico for your original post and effort to supply a valuable graphic.


beefsteak

beefsteak
20th July 2011, 11:43 AM
You can bet your last Mercury dime we are fucked if Japs go Chernobyl. Their reactor is the largest on the planet and is 100x more powerful than Chernobyl station.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZV9a24p6IM
fresh cracks and water seeping out.


Thank you, Antonio for your original post and effort to supply a valuable graphic.

7/20/2011: PS...Japs did indeed go "Chernobyl" and then some.
Additional info: This vid has been yanked. Did a search for "Cool Products Assoc." who is posted as owner of this film footage, and found no such entity. hmmmmmmmmmmm I'm calling this "scrubbed."


beefsteak

beefsteak
20th July 2011, 12:02 PM
This does not look like just the outer containment building exploding me thinks - not good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIZKlaEZMLY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIZKlaEZMLY



hmmmmm....another scrub?

Thank you, mamboni for your original post and effort to supply a valuable graphic.


beefsteak

beefsteak
20th July 2011, 12:09 PM
My first ever ebay purchase was Radalert50 bought in `99 for 160$

It`s a helluva toy. I also bought an old German alarm clock with radium dial to use to calibrate. The alarm clock gives off 150CPM while background in NYC today is 12.



http://www.allhandsfire.com/core/media/media.nl?id=4858&c=1050584&h=31f61684a0f7b02b6651&resizeid=-2&resizeh=275&resizew=275


Thank you, Antonio for your original post and effort to supply a valuable graphic.


beefsteak *up to page 11/122 now)

Joe King
20th July 2011, 12:30 PM
I haven't read every page of this thread, but has this been posted yet? If so, sorry4!

http://www.timeslive.co.za/scitech/2011/07/18/nuclear-cattle-fears-rise

Book
20th July 2011, 06:28 PM
To withhold VITAL information by "government making decisions for the people" removes power to chose...as in chose life, chose mitigations, chose remediation, chose location. It's just that simple.



How many people actually have real "mitigations" to chose from?

??? what might they be?

Joe King
20th July 2011, 07:49 PM
Mitigations would be the taking of medicene, for example, to reduce suffering. Or perhaps move away from a contaminated area.

Definition of MITIGATE

transitive verb
1
: to cause to become less harsh or hostile (http://mw4.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hostile) : mollify (http://mw4.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mollify) <aggressiveness may be mitigated or … channeled — Ashley Montagu>

2
a : to make less severe or painful : alleviate (http://mw4.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alleviate) b : extenuate (http://mw4.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/extenuate)

— mit·i·ga·tion \ˌmi-tə-ˈgā-shən\ noun
— mit·i·ga·tive \ˈmi-tə-ˌgā-tiv\ adjective
— mit·i·ga·tor \-ˌgā-tər\ noun
— mit·i·ga·to·ry \ˈmi-ti-gə-ˌtȯr-ē\ adjective

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Book
20th July 2011, 07:54 PM
Or perhaps move away from a contaminated area.



As of March 2009, Japan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan)'s population (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population) is 127,076,183,[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Japan#cite_note-0) making it the world's tenth most populated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population) country.

::)

Joe King
20th July 2011, 11:27 PM
Based on your post, it kinda seemed like you didn't know what the word meant.


??? what might they be?

You asked, So I gave examples of what the word means.


If you don't like it, then tough titties to you. lol

gunDriller
21st July 2011, 06:33 AM
How many people actually have real "mitigations" to chose from?

??? what might they be?

eating cheddar cheese that's been aged 10 months - pre-Fukushima.

drinking evaporated milk whose date code also indicates it's pre-Fukushima.

etc. ... plenty of options in terms of food. old canned food that's past its "use by" date code - got 4 boxes at a garage sale, hmmm good, haven't died yet.

beefsteak
21st July 2011, 03:22 PM
Oh, Geeze....crank it up a notch or 3, food industry reporters.....

Heat Wave Too Much For Minnesota Turkeys

July 21, 2011 11:33 AM



http://cbsminnesota.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/turkey.jpg?w=300 (credit:CBS)

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) – The end of the heat wave couldn’t come soon enough for Minnesota turkey growers. The Minnesota Turkey Growers Association says it’s received widespread reports of turkey deaths at farms across the state.

“I’ve heard from some (growers who’ve lost) 50 birds, up to 45,000 or so,” said Steve Olson, executive director (http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2011/07/21/heat-wave-too-much-for-minnesota-turkeys/#) of the Minnesota Turkey Growers Association.

One farm in Redwood Falls lost nearly 50,000 turkeys alone.
While Olson says turkeys can acclimate to heat fairly well, the sustained nature of the heat wave was too much for the birds.

“(It’s been) so hot during the day, doesn’t cool off very much at night, and then if there’s no wind moving it gets real tough for the birds,” Olson said. “It starts to affect the way they’re breathing.”

Losing a significant number of turkeys can be devastating for growers. Olson says the cost is anywhere from $10 to $25 per bird. “You multiply that by a few thousand, and it starts to add up pretty quickly.”

Olson doubts the widespread deaths will affect the price for turkeys.


=========================


Well, of course it won't affect the price for turkeys! There're plenty of TEPCO turkeys in Japan. All we have to do is wait for the "trade" winds to shift, and them lil turkeys'll arrive from over there JIT for US Thanksgiving.

Don't you worry one little beaky beat about it now.........

Gobble Gobble -d-gook


beefsteak

Serpo
22nd July 2011, 03:11 AM
How many people actually have real "mitigations" to chose from?

??? what might they be?

The ones that do......................

Serpo
22nd July 2011, 03:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RgMVRYe0oE&feature=player_embedded

Serpo
22nd July 2011, 03:29 AM
I haven't read every page of this thread, \

http://www.timeslive.co.za/scitech/2011/07/18/nuclear-cattle-fears-rise

Why not it should only take you 4 months......lol

Celtic Rogue
22nd July 2011, 04:36 AM
Potassium Iodine is what you need to save your thyroid from radiation. This is what I have on hand...

http://www.vitacost.com/Store/Images/BrandLogos/life-extension.gif (http://www.vitacost.com/LifeExtension)
Life Extension Potassium Iodide Tablets -- 130 mg

I got them here.

http://www.vitacost.com/Life-Extension-Potassium-Iodide-Tablets

Serpo
22nd July 2011, 04:46 AM
NaturalNews) What happened in Fukushima, Japan on March 11, 2011 may be the most sinister global disaster in the recorded history of our planet. The repercussions of this historic disaster will remain for centuries to come. The manifestations of nuclear radiation from the meltdown of the reactors in Fukushima will haunt humanity in ways that we'll only discover over time. The obvious poisoning of our food, water, and air is just the beginning of what is happening to humanity, animal and plant life, and the planet.

In an interview with Harry Jabs, a nuclear physicist with as masters degree from Texas A&M and who has a Diploma in Physics from the University of Hamburg in Germany, we expose what had to have happened in Fukushima on March 11 and the weeks and months that followed. It is a shocking story that many cannot read without either disbelief or utter shock.

What happened that led to the suppression of this most critical story? What is being reported in the news is that the Japanese Women's Soccer Team won the world championships in Germany this past week. There is almost nothing in the news about the biggest disaster the planet has ever faced in its recorded history. Let's review the story of what actually happened on March 11th and in the weeks and months afterward that was for the most part either downplayed or withheld from international news. The power of the press, now that the Murdoch issue has been exposed and sensationalized, in making or breaking a story cannot be underestimated. It makes one wonder who is behind controlling the press, and for what reasons.

Every nuclear physicist knows that a meltdown of a nuclear power plant will occur within a few hours of the loss of cooling with water. It had to be absolutely clear that a meltdown had occurred in several nuclear reactors in Fukushima on March 11th because there was a loss of the water cooling system on that day. All of the complex failsafe backup systems that protect a nuclear plant from a meltdown failed. How this happened has never been disclosed in its entirety. Why?

Three explosions that were likely low-grade nuclear reactions that were purported to be caused by hydrogen. However, films of this explosion shown in the news are strongly suggestive of reactions that were far more violent than one would expect from hydrogen by itself. None of the reactors in Fukushima has been documented to be controlled. The spread of radiation through the air was the first evidence of nuclear contamination from Fukushima. However, this was just a beginning. No one can exist in the vicinity of any of the six nuclear plants in Fukushima because of dangerous high levels of radiation. At this point, what could be done to prevent a complete meltdown of all six nuclear plants? If you can't get near it, how can you fix it? No living organism can get within miles of these plants to do the cleanup and containment that needs to be done to stop their ongoing contamination. Even worse, we know that several of these reactors are leaking radiation into the Pacific Ocean. There is obviously no way to control the leakage now or perhaps ever.

Chernobyl taught us many lessons about what a meltdown means. It took 500,000 Russian people to work to encapsulate the Chernobyl nuclear reactor to stop the spread of radiation. Many of them have died from complications of radiation poisoning and tens of thousands are suffering from radiation sickness. Japan has no mechanism that can accomplish this feat. Perhaps we're being encouraged to close our eyes and hope it will all go away... Maybe there are other more sinister reasons.

Our challenge now is to find ways to protect ourselves the best we can from this massive catastrophe. Building a powerful antioxidant defense system can do a lot to deal with low levels of radiation exposure. We can do this though diet, exercise, proper sleep, stress reduction, and taking antioxidant supplements. It is also possible to purify radiation contaminated water using an affordable reverse osmosis system. You can learn more about how to protect yourself from radiation on my website, doctorsaputo.com. For a more detailed video accounting of this story, click the following link on NaturalNews.tv: http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=1AA8F...

The dangers of nuclear power plants are now obvious. It is remarkable that there are dozens of them in the US and that many of them are built on earthquake faults and that they are vulnerable to natural disasters such as floods, tornadoes, tsunamis, and hurricanes. It is time that we take a careful look at what we have done and prepare for the future with more foresight.

http://www.naturalnews.com/033083_Fukushima_nuclear_detonation.html

Mouse
23rd July 2011, 12:03 AM
Potassium Iodine is what you need to save your thyroid from radiation. This is what I have on hand...

http://www.vitacost.com/Store/Images/BrandLogos/life-extension.gif (http://www.vitacost.com/LifeExtension)
Life Extension Potassium Iodide Tablets -- 130 mg

I got them here.

http://www.vitacost.com/Life-Extension-Potassium-Iodide-Tablets

I have had a three month supply for two of potassium iodide on hand for years. I didn't take them starting in March, did you? They are still on the shelf. I probably should have took them, but with the nice side effects and the media blackout, we were all sitting here with our pants down. SO really, Book has a pretty good point, what mitigations? You going to stop eating? You are going to find pristine waters and soils and build an BioDome for yourself and grow all your own food without exposure to outside contaminated air and water? You are going to make the dome big enough to have your cows and chickens and pigs and whatever there also? And they can all eat the grasses of the polluted soil over which you build this? You already have a huge barn for your cattle and another barn with 100,000 tons of pre-Fuku hay safely stored away from the air and the water? How long will that last you?

There is no escape, only smart eating if at all possible. It matters not, really.

Yeah! Another Prophet of Disaster
Who says the ship is lost,
Another Prophet of Disaster
Leaving you to count the cost.
Taunting us with Visions,
Afflicting us with fear,
Predicting war for millions,
In the hope that one appears.

(Bridge)
No point asking when it is,
No point asking who's to go,
No point asking what's the game,
No point asking who's to blame.
'Cause if you're gonna die (If you're gonna die) If you're gonna die,
(If you're gonna die) If you're gonna die (If you're gonna die) If you're gonna die...

(Chorus)
If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.
If you're gonna try, well stick around,
Gonna cry, just move along,
If you're gonna die, you're gonna die,
Gonna die! Die with your boots on,
If you're gonna try, well stick around,
Gonna cry, just move along,
If you're gonna die, you're gonna die!

13, the Beast is rising,
The Frenchman did surmise,
Through earthquakes and starvation,
The warlord will arise.
Terror, death, destruction,
Pour from the Eastern Sands,
But the truth of all predictions,
Is always in your hands.

(Repeat Bridge and Chorus)

(Guitar solo - Dave Murray)

They died with their boots on, yes they died...
They died! They die with their boots on, they die...
We die! We die! We die! We die! We die!

(Guitar solo - Adrian Smith)

(Repeat Bridge)

If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.
If you're gonna try and try then just stick around,
Gonna cry, just move along,
If you're gonna die, you're gonna die
Gonna die! Die with your boots on,
If you're gonna try, well stick around,
Gonna cry, just move along,
If you're gonna die... Die!

Maiden Japan no less.

Edit: while I was playing around with this post I realized that this song is the same song as "Breaking the Law" from Judas Priest. You could practically play them on top of eachother :)

More fun fuku facts.

beefsteak
23rd July 2011, 11:05 AM
Some mitigating tasks/items are: acquired a used Rainbow Water Trap vacuum for doing household cleaning, to keep down Radioactive particles tracked into the dwelling. Paid $10 for a $900 item. Seemed like a good deal. We usta have one, but for one reason or another passed it along to the West Coast Daughter. Can't be an indian giver as my little brother used to accuse me of in my younger years. So, found this one, after the wife and I talked it over. Seen oodles of them at various auctions and flea markets, and just never replaced it. Have now as of last weekend. We're both pleased and breathing easier, frankly. And literally.

True, one can't entirely avoid the radioactive particles, but one CAN reduce them, thus reducing the cellular level response of the human body.

For external radiation mitigation for us with domesticated pets, we are always washing up with baking soda after loving on them and feeding times.

Lastly, we acquired a couple of those "pointed nose" hot steamer units (holds about a quart) We got the idea of getting those after seeing what the Fuku employees were using on their vehicles and other outside items that needed reusing. So, things stored outside, that we reuse, and have been radioactively rained on, we are exteriorly steam cleaning before putting to use, since they have external harmful radiation on them.

Just 3 mitigations for additional consideration besides the others mentioned earlier on this thread. As nuke engineer, Arnie Gunderson noted post 3/11, there is INTERNAL radiation and external radiation to deal with. And this radiation damage stuff is cumulative. So, mitigations are now the new norm for downwinders. And reduction to exposure is also the new norm. Reminds me of the 50s all over again, post Above Ground Nuke Tests in Nevada all those consecutive bombardment years.

Hope this helps someone.

Serpo
24th July 2011, 02:58 AM
Internal radiation dose of around 80 microsieverts from eating 2 pounds of radioactive beef
July 22nd, 2011 at 11:52 AM

Are worries over meat overblown?, Japan Times, July 22, 2011:

…Read More

213 comments
France sends irradiated nuclear fuel to US — Six casks off-loaded in Georgia and trucked 1,600 miles to Los Alamos
July 22nd, 2011 at 10:54 AM

Ship carrying nuclear cargo slips in, out of port, Savannah Morning …Read More

89 comments
TEPCO redefines “cold shutdown” — Only bottom of pressure vessel has to be under 100 degrees celsius, not reactor-core coolant
July 22nd, 2011 at 10:10 AM

Plugging reactors no longer stated goal for Tepco, Japan Times, July …Read More

62 comments
Fukushima Blackout: Cooling at SPF No. 3 stopped for 5 hours, still on backup power — TEPCO says no ‘major’ change in temp
July 22nd, 2011 at 09:36 AM

TEPCO probes Fukushima blackout, NHK, July 22, 2011: …Read More

19 comments
ABC: Al Qaeda recruit employed at five different U.S. nuclear plants (VIDEO)
July 22nd, 2011 at 07:31 AM

New Terror Report Warns of Insider Threat to Utilities, ABC News, …Read More

37 comments
NHK News Flash: Electricity cut at Reactors No. 3 and 4, cooling system shut down — TEPCO says no “major” change in radiation around plant
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:53 AM

External power supply cut at 2 Fukushima reactors, NHK, July 22, …Read More

48 comments
Updated roadmap no longer mentions how holes in reactors will be plugged — Kyoto prof perplexed this “most important” point was left out
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:15 AM

Plugging reactors no longer stated goal for Tepco, Japan Times, July …Read More

17 comments
Time.com on S.O.S. from Fukushima: “Another disgruntled Japanese official has taken to the interwebs” — “A bit of social media jiujitsu”
July 21st, 2011 at 03:10 PM

Is This Mike On? Another YouTube SOS from Fukushima, Time.com by …Read More

73 comments
Typhoon increases level of radioactive water in Reactor No. 1 basement by 17 inches in a day — Likely to continue rising
July 21st, 2011 at 12:38 PM

Rain increases contaminated water at plant, NHK, July 21, 2011

Heavy …Read More

21 comments
Iodine-131 also found in Philadelphia-area sewage plants; Sludge set off radiation detectors at landfills — Experts skeptical it’s from cancer patients’ urine
July 21st, 2011 at 10:08 AM

Cancer patients’ urine suspected in Wissahickon iodine-131 levels, Philadelphia Inquirer, July …Read More

67 comments
Now over 1,300 cattle suspected of radiation contamination have been shipped
July 21st, 2011 at 06:42 AM

Over 1,300 cattle suspected of radiation contamination shipped, Kyodo News, July …Read More

28 comments
NHK: “High levels of radioactivity found extensively” — Japan says air 150 km from Fukushima plant is as radioactive as areas close to meltdown
July 20th, 2011 at 09:55 PM

…Read More

120 comments
Japan nuclear expert warns of further radiation releases from Fukushima — Risks should be explained to nearby residents (VIDEO)
July 20th, 2011 at 02:39 PM

Expert: Risks remain at Fukushima Daiichi plant, NHK, July 20, 2011:

…Read More

64 comments
CBS: Nuclear workers “terrified to come forward” — Whistleblower won’t appear on TV fearing retaliation by NRC (VIDEO)


http://enenews.com/

beefsteak
24th July 2011, 01:56 PM
Serpo,
some of those headlines were plumb disquieting.

Thanks for posting them.

oldmansmith
24th July 2011, 02:30 PM
Thanks everyone for keeping the thread going. I wrote a letter to the Christian Science Monitor (to which I am a subscriber) blasting them for their lack of coverage of this. They did send a "nice" response, and have since mentioned that awful R word (radiation), but still crap coverage.

I've been eating kelp, taking calcium supplements and have been urging pregnant Mrs. Old (due in two weeks) to do the same. Thankfully I'm on the East coast, but still downwind. God help us all.

beefsteak
24th July 2011, 02:38 PM
OMS,
Keep us posted on your bun in the oven as my Mother (may she rest in peace) used to call your wife's delicate condition.

Glad you took the initiative to call C.S. Monitor on their disingenuous complicity/conspiracy participation in the Fuku/Ft. Calhoun cover up. Now, have you thought to write them about the absolute reporting blackout over Ft. Calhoun in Nebraska?

What on earth will the govt do to courageous reporters? Make them stand in a corner? Keep them in during recess? Clean chalkboards?

Like you, I, too, expect more out of C.S.M.


beefsteak

Serpo
25th July 2011, 02:25 AM
Serpo,
some of those headlines were plumb disquieting.

Thanks for posting them.

Yes Beefy ,,they seem to be never ending and will they ever end ,I probably doubt it.

beefsteak
27th July 2011, 10:29 PM
Word is, this German Site will be discontinued July 29, 2011. Guess too much information is more harmful than the radiation it is tracking. This reeks! Seems like we just can't have too much up-to-date computer tracking. *sarc*

http://www.dwd.de/wundk/spezial/Sonderbericht_loop.gif

Migration Japan (http://www.dwd.de/bvbw/appmanager/bvbw/dwdwwwDesktop;jsessionid=wRHHTw5VX0z8CswXwlpnQ1M1P qrxDLdp7rGGBQP5lLnLW83BCBkH%21-1303396716%21209486069?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=dwdwww_wir_ueberuns&_nfls=false), Deutscher Wetterdienst [Public institution with partial legal capacity under Germany's Federal Ministry of Transport, Building and Urban Development], July 27, 2011:
IMPORTANT NOTE: The provision of this graphics will bei [sic] discontinued on July, 29th. If required, the production will be resumed.

The Deutscher Wetterdienst has ceased to publish its special reports on the “Meteorological situation and dispersion conditions in Japan” as of 31 May 2011.

The pictures and the animation in 6-hourly time steps show the possible migration of radioactively [sic] loaded air emanating from the nuclear power station Fukushima I in 250m height.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Since the strength of the emission is unknown, the values are to interpret only as relative distribution and dilution outgoing from an unknown source concentration.

A conclusion on the actually radioactive load locally is not possible!




http://www.dwd.de/wundk/spezial/Sonderbericht_loop.gif (http://www.dwd.de/wundk/spezial/Sonderbericht_loop.gif)



Further information can be found on the website of BMU (http://www.bmu.de).

Serpo
28th July 2011, 10:44 AM
Why Underground Entombment At
Fukushima Daiichi Won't Succeed
By Yoichi Shimatsu
Exclusive to Rense.com
Copyright 2011 - All Rights Reserved
7-28-11
A friend in Japan raised questions about the feasibility of underground concrete entrenchment (360-degree entombment) of the damaged reactors at Fukushima No.1 nuclear plant. This fellow pointed out that a concrete seal was successfully built at Chernobyl, even if hundreds of laborers who worked underground later died from radiation exposure.

My response was skeptical since Chernobyl's concrete sarcophagus is now cracking apart due to soil settling and internal heat build-up. There is also major differences in soil structure between Chernobyl and Fukushima. Ukraine is a semi-arid steppe with a water table at considerable depth below the reactor. Fukushima No.1 rests on landfill comprising loose rock and sand over the natural seabed and is positioned only a couple of meters above the high tide mark. Water seepage and earthquake-caused liquefaction have seriously disturbed this rather weak soil structure.

The carbon reactor at Chernobyl caught fire as the uranium rods melted down, creating a molten lava flow. At Fukushima, however, the quake damage and loss of water from inside the reactors caused many fuel rods to shatter. Broken pieces of uranium fell to the bottom of the reactor cores and melted through their shrouds into the containment chambers.

The chemical evidence of slaked lime (calcium hydrate) in the air indicates the rod fragments then seared past the containment shields and burned through the reactor buildings' concrete footing.The continuous release of iodine-131 for more than 4 months in both air and sea water samples also indicates nonstop nuclear fission. Due to the intense heat underground, any concrete poured below the reactors will probably be unable to harden uniformly.

Therefore the current strategy being considered by Tepco engineers is to pump polymer resin under the reactors to prevent the inflow of sea water and ground water. Unfortunately a watertight seal is practically impossible to achieve since the rod fragments will melt though this bubble as well.

A shocking discovery at Fukushima was that zirconium (used as a "transparent" - allowing passage of neutrons - protective cladding around the fuel rods) when superheated can become a catalyst for an esoteric type of nuclear fission. At extreme temperatures, zirconium ignites even the tiniest quantities of airborne nuclear isotopes, releasing "blue lightning". This means that zirconium catalysis could also be occurring underground, triggering mini-fission events. This sort of nuclear reaction is terra incognita, a yet unexplored frontier of physics, the joker in the deck.

Much of the danger comes from simpler processes. Extremely hot magma, consisting of nuclear residues mixed with soil minerals, will boil any sea water seeping underground, creating pressurized steam.Think of oatmeal cooking in a pot and how bubbles create blow holes. The same is happening inside the landfill.

The steam-created tubes harden when they cool, leaving lines of structural weakness. Eventually, these air pockets will collapse, and the massive weight of the water-filled reactors, piles of spent rods and their supporting structures will drop into deep sinkholes.

If the magma tubes become filled with sea water, the landfill will resemble a gigantic sponge, prone to liquefaction and collapse under earthquake motion. Even the resonance vibrations from large machines could trigger the sudden opening of new sinkholes.

Water holds other dangers as well, since it is a better medium for nuclear fission than the mix of stones, dirt and concrete now under the reactors. Once sea water seeps into the newly opened underground channels, the fissile particles will become free-floating and fire neutrons into bits of uranium, plutonium and other isotopes, triggering cascades of fission. The resulting steam pressure is volcanic, bursting out of the ground and spewing vast amounts of radioactive material into the atmosphere. The oatmeal spatters across the stove top.

The problem with concrete is that it not only keeps sea water out but also traps any liquid inside the seal. A concrete sarcophagus then becomes a witches' brew of nuclear fission.

Entombment of a reactor built on landfill over the seabed is therefore practically impossible. After the reactors drop into sinkholes, the meltdowns could go on for decades.

The one possible solution to this apocalyptic scenario is the stuff that propelled Ronald Reagan into nationwide fame as host of GE Family Theater: borax. The alkali salt used in laundry powder consists of about 15 percent boron-10, the neutron-absorbing mineral used in control rods inside nuclear reactors. Boron intercepts neutrons, thereby reducing the number of fission events and thus cooling the loose uranium.

Borax dissolves in water, meaning it can be poured into the water seeping underground through turbine rooms and the maze of broken pipes. Around the hot spots, the mineral salt will turn solid, trapping and separating uranium particles. The crystalized borax will fill the steam-created gaps in the soil, strengthening the overall weight-bearing structure. The hard angular crystals can also resist seismic movement, reducing the problem of liquefaction.

Borax can be poured into water seeping through the turbine rooms and damaged pipes or inserted through bore holes drilled at an angle under the reactor.
This mineral salt as low toxicity, making it safe for the workers, and is harmless if it leaks into the sea. Cheap, abundant and mined in the western USA, borax is the solution for cleaning up an awful mess. If Reagan endorsed it, borax might actually work.
http://www.rense.com/general94/whyf.htm

Serpo
28th July 2011, 10:51 AM
Fukushima Teacher Muzzled on Radiation Risks for School Children, Bloomberg by Takahiko Hyuga, July 28, 2011:

[... O]n a recent July morning, school children in Fukushima prefecture were taking off their masks and running around playgrounds in T-shirts, exposing them to a similar amount of annual radiation as a worker in a nuclear power plant.

Toshinori Shishido, a Japanese literature teacher of 25 years, had warned his students two months ago to wear surgical masks and keep their skin covered with long-sleeved shirts. His advice went unheeded, not because of the weather but because his school told him not to alarm students. Shishido quit this week.

“I want to get away from this situation where I’m not even allowed to alert children about radiation exposure,” said Shishido, a 48-year-old teacher who taught at Fukushima Nishi High School. [...]

Kiyoharu Furukawa, 57, assistant principal at Fukushima Nishi High: “I don’t think the children are safe either, and I know the radiation level is still high… These days, they are wearing short sleeves and no masks.”

http://enenews.com/muzzled-fukushima-teacher-quits-after-stopped-from-alerting-students-about-radiation-exposure-asst-principal-says-i-don’t-think-the-children-are-safe-either

Serpo
28th July 2011, 10:54 AM
Interview with Karl Grossman, July 27, 2011:

[...] “A lot of nuclear scientists … actually have the nerve to claim that radiation is good for you, and they have this theory called ‘radiation hormesis’ and they claim that radioactivity exercises the immune system and it’s a healthy thing for people. Essentially what they are doing is promoting their technology with this incredible lie,” Karl Grossman, a professor at State University of New York College told Press TV’s U.S. Desk in an exclusive interview on Wednesday

Grossman believes some people are trying to downplay radioactive pollution in Savannah River Site - a nuclear reservation in South Carolina.



"This week there was supposed to be a speaker before an advisory board, at the Savannah River Site, and he planned to tell this advisory board that: don't worry about the radiation from Fukushima. The Japanese shouldn't worry about the radiation from Fukushima," Grossman said, adding that Savannah River Site was "a high pollution area."



"In fact he wrote a little newspaper article saying even the workers who had been exposed to this enormous amounts of radioactivity there, won't meet no health consequences because of radiation hormesis," he concluded.


http://enenews.com/professor-nuclear-scientists-claiming-radioactivity-is-a-healthy-thing-for-people-an-incredible-lie-video


http://www.presstv.com/usdetail/191079.html

Serpo
28th July 2011, 10:58 AM
* One of 5 worst nuclear plants in world for exposure to radiation

* Tepco prioritised cost-savings over radiation standard

* Tepco says old plants like Fukushima have high radiation

* Foreign workers used to avoid exposing staff to high radiation

* Improvements made at Fukushima before disaster hit

By Chisa Fujioka and Kevin Krolicki

TOKYO, July 26 (Reuters) - Japan's Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant ranked as one of the most dangerous in the world for radiation exposure years before it was destroyed by the meltdowns and explosions that followed the March 11 earthquake. For five years to 2008, the Fukushima plant was rated the most hazardous nuclear facility in Japan for worker exposure to radiation and one of the five worst nuclear plants in the world on that basis. The next rankings, compiled as a three-year average, are due this year. Reuters uncovered these rankings, privately tracked by Fukushima's operator Tokyo Electric Power, in a review of documents and presentations made at nuclear safety conferences over the past seven years. In the United States -- Japan's early model in nuclear power -- Fukushima's lagging safety record would have prompted more intensive inspections by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. It would have also invited scrutiny from the U.S. Institute of Nuclear Power Operations, an independent nuclear safety organization established by the U.S. power industry after the Three Mile Island accident in 1979, experts say. But that kind of stepped-up review never happened in Tokyo, where the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency remains an adjunct of the trade ministry charged with promoting nuclear power. As Japan debates its future energy policy after the worst nuclear accident since Chernobyl, a Reuters review of the long-troubled record at Fukushima shows how hard it has been to keep the country's oldest reactors running in the best of times. It also shows how Japan's nuclear establishment sold nuclear power to the public as a relatively cheap energy source in part by putting cost-containment ahead of radiation safety over the past several decades. "After the Fukushima accident, we need to reconsider the cost of nuclear power," Tatsujiro Suzuki, vice chairman of Japan's Atomic Energy Commission, told Reuters. "It's not enough to meet safety standards. The industry needs to search for the best performance." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Read story in a PDF: link.reuters.com/vad82s Graphic on TEPCO: link.reuters.com/kyj72s Graphic on dangerous plants: link.reuters.com/myj72s Radiation at Fukushima link.reuters.com/qyj72s Special reports on Japan r.reuters.com/tec78r ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ In an illustration of the scale of the safety problems at Fukushima, Tokyo Electric had set a 10-year goal that insiders considered ambitious in 2007. The plan was to reduce radiation exposure for workers at Fukushima to bring the facility from near rock-bottom in the industry's global safety rankings to somewhere below-average by 2017, documents show. "Severer management than before will be required," Tokyo Electric safety researcher Yasunori Kokubun and four other colleagues said in an English-language 2004 report. That report examined why Japan lagged other countries such as France and the United States in limiting radiation exposure for workers during plant maintenance. The report came from an earlier period of corporate soul searching by Tokyo Electric, a politically powerful regional monopoly in Japan that ran the Fukushima power station and remains in charge of the clean-up work at the crippled plant expected to take a decade or more. In 2002, the chairman and president of the utility were forced to step down after regulators concluded the company had routinely filed false reports during safety inspections and hid evidence of trouble at its reactors, including Fukushima. All 17 of Tokyo Electric's reactors were ordered shut down. The last of those did not restart until 2005. COST-SAVING CULTURE As part of a bid to win back public trust, the utility promised to repair a "safety culture" it said had failed in the scandal. Teams of newly empowered radiation safety managers were created and began to audit the company's nuclear operations, including Fukushima. They also reported back findings to other nuclear plant operators and regulators. None of the utility's safety managers who gave those archived presentations responded to requests for comment for this report. One problem, according to one of those early assessments, was that Tokyo Electric's managers on the ground tended to put cost savings ahead of a commitment to keep driving worker radiation doses "as low as reasonably achievable," the international standard for safety. Take maintenance, for instance. Japanese plants are required to shut down every 13 months for almost four months at a time -- twice as long as the U.S. average. Tepco was slow to invest in the more expensive radiation safety precautions needed during maintenance, thus lowering the cost of operating Fukushima before the accident. But that focus on costs also kept Tepco from developing a more active commitment to worker safety that could have helped it navigate the March disaster, officials now say. After the earthquake, contract workers at Fukushima were sent in without radiation meters or basic gear such as rubber boots. Screening for radiation from dust and vapor inhaled by workers was delayed for weeks until experts said the testing was almost meaningless. At least 39 workers were exposed to more than 100 millisieverts of radiation, five times the maximum allowed in a normal year. Fukushima Daiichi, built in a poor region on Japan's Pacific Coast to supply power to Tokyo, was pushed into crisis by the massive March 11 earthquake and the tsunami that hit less than an hour later. The backup power systems meant to keep its radioactive fuel cool were disabled, leading to meltdowns, explosions and radiation spewing into the environment, forcing the evacuation of more than 80,000 residents. Goshi Hosono, the government minister appointed to coordinate Japan's response to the Fukushima crisis, said he was not aware of the details of Fukushima's radiation safety record before March 11 and declined to comment on that basis. But he said the utility had failed to protect workers in the chaos that followed the accident, prompting a reprimand from government officials and a decision by regulators to take charge of radiation health monitoring at the plant. "In normal times, radiation monitoring would be left to the plant operator, but these are not normal times," Hosono told Reuters. HIGHER RADIATION IN OLD PLANTS In a June report to the International Atomic Energy Agency, Japanese officials said basic design failures, a fatal underestimation of tsunami risk and a chaotic decision-making process had contributed to the disaster. But they also said Tokyo Electric's "safety culture" had failed it again. Outside experts agreed. "The main root causes of this man-made disaster can be found in (Tokyo Electric's) ineffective -- exemplary poor -- safety practices and track record," said Najim Meshkati, an engineering professor at the University of Southern California and former U.S. government science advisor. In response to questions about the radiation safety record at Fukushima, Tokyo Electric said that radiation exposure for each individual worker at the plant had been kept below the regulatory standard. The overall radiation level remained relatively high because the plant's six reactors were all between 30 and 40 years old at the time of the accident, the utility said. "Because it was


http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/26/idUSL3E7IE3Z920110726

beefsteak
28th July 2011, 03:46 PM
Why Underground Entombment At Fukushima Daiichi Won't Succeed
By Yoichi Shimatsu
Exclusive to Rense.com
Copyright 2011 - All Rights Reserved

7-28-11

.....Borax dissolves in water, meaning it can be poured into the water seeping underground through turbine rooms and the maze of broken pipes. Around the hot spots, the mineral salt will turn solid, trapping and separating uranium particles.

http://www.rense.com/general94/whyf.htm

=======================

Serpo,

before everyone "drinks this kool-aid," I'd like to offer a suggestion.

Head over to one's favorite grocery store and grab a box of 20mule team borax.

Then drive back home, and just "dissolve some borax" in "some tap water." Just for kicks, make up a second test, and dump in enough (3.5ml per 100ml volume) table salt to replicate "ocean water salty levels" and report-- if any-- differences in the outcomes of the two "dissolving" experiments.

Then stop by and share your findings.

I think Yoichi "stepped in it" this time... host Jeff Rense certainly did.

This whole thing reminds me of "a TV Weather forecaster" forgetting to look out the station's rain pelted window just before going on the air and forecasting NO chance of precipitation for the next 24hrs...

Borax goes immediately liquid at the temps generated by fission. Just what part of "cooling and crystalization" could they possibly be trying to describe?

This is bad to see Yoichi getting sucked in like this. And Rense needs to look out his "rain pelted window".....

Then, just for more kicks, grab the calculator and calculate density of tons and tons and tons of molten borax, on liquifaction porous dump soil. Of COURSE there will be magma, man-made, copious, voluminous quantities of magma, all headed to sea.

Sorry, Serpo...this was a TOUGH read.


beefsteak

Serpo
28th July 2011, 04:48 PM
Thats why we are here Beefsteak ,,,,,to find out the truth ,whatever that maybe.

Serpo
29th July 2011, 01:04 PM
If anyone would like to improve their garden beds Tepco may have the answer


1,500 tons of radioactive sludge cannot be buried, NHK, July 29, 2011:

Nearly 50,000 tons of sludge at water treatment facilities has been found to
contain radioactive cesium [...]

A total of 1,557 tons in 5 prefectures, including Fukushima and Miyagi, was
found to contain 8,000 or more becquerels per kilogram. This sludge is too radioactive to be buried for disposal.

The most contaminated sludge, with 89,697 becquerels per kilogram, was discovered at a water treatment facility in Koriyama City, Fukushima. [...]

The ministry plans to study how to dispose of the radioactive sludge.

Over 1,550 tons of highly radioactive sludge found in 5 prefectures, Mainichi Daily News, July 29, 2011:

The health ministry will cooperate with the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism and consider reprocessing the sludge as soil for gardeni

http://enenews.com/govt-1500-tons-highly-radioactive-sludge-soil-gardening

Serpo
29th July 2011, 01:07 PM
Chubu Electric: NISA tried to deceive public forum, NHK, July 29, 2011:

Chubu Electric Power Company says the government’s nuclear agency asked it to make sure that questions in favor of nuclear power be asked at a government-sponsored symposium in 2007.

In a report submitted to the government on Friday, the utility said the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency requested that it gather participants and have local residents pose prearranged questions at the forum held in Shizuoka Prefecture, central Japan. [...]

The revelation comes after Kyushu Electric Power Company came under fire for submitting fake e-mails in support of a restart of idled nuclear reactors in a government-sponsored meeting for local residents in June. [...]

h/t Anonymous tip

http://enenews.com/japan-govt-told-power-company-to-deceive-public-by-staging-questions-during-nuclear-forum

Serpo
29th July 2011, 01:09 PM
Damaged Nuclear Fuel Rod Stuck At Japanese Plant for 17 Years, Fox Washington DC, July 28, 2011:

A damaged nuclear fuel rod was stuck inside a reactor at Japan’s ageing Hamaoka nuclear plant after an accident 17 years ago and is still there, the plant’s operator said Thursday.

The operator, Chubu Electric Power Co., said experts were unable to remove the spent fuel rod from the plant, located 125 miles (200 kilometers) southwest of Tokyo, Kyodo News reported. [...]

The company sought help from domestic and foreign experts on how to safely extract it, but no solution was found so far. [...]

http://enenews.com/one-damaged-nuclear-fuel-rod-stuck-in-reactor-at-japanese-plant-for-17-years-experts-have-been-unable-to-remove-it-no-solution-so-far

Serpo
31st July 2011, 04:08 PM
Saturday, July 30, 2011
Japanese Military Analyst: Chinese Nuclear Submarine Accident in Dalian, China??

and radiation is leaking, the analyst says. He also mentions the high-speed train accident, and says there are 259 people dead so far.

It was reported by Mamoru Sato on his blog on July 30. I have no idea who he really is, but the bio on his blog says he was a fighter pilot in the Self Defense Air Force of Japan, and was then a high-ranking officer and the commander of the several major air force bases in Japan until he retired from the service in 1997. Checking the biography in Wiki, it looks like he is indeed what he says he is.

Mr. Sato's July 30 blogpost:

今入った情報によると、29日大連港で中国海軍の原子力潜水艦で事故が発生し、放射能が漏れているという。 周辺は軍によって厳重に閉鎖されていて、極めて危険な状況らしいという。

According to the information I just obtained, a nuclear submarine of the Chinese Navy had an accident in the port of Dalian on July 29, and there is a leak of radiation. The area is strictly closed off by the Chinese military, and the situation is said to be very dangerous.

どうせ北京政府は公表しない?だろうから、周辺国は自己防衛すべきであり、この近海で漁をしている日本漁船 などは注意が必要だろう。

I doubt that the Chinese government will announce the accident. The neighboring countries should take defensive measures, and the Japanese fishing boats in the area should be careful.

もう一つ、“外国”の保険会社によると、今回の高速鉄道事故の犠牲者数は、今日現在死者259人、負傷者1 83人、行方不明者154人で、もっと被害は増える見込みだという。

One more thing. According to a "foreign" insurance company, China's high-speed train accident has 259 people dead, 183 injured, and 154 still missing. The numbers are set to increase, according to this insurance company.

現地ではいつまでも犠牲者家族の抗議が続いているし、行方不明…という語が飛び交っているので不思議に思っ ていたが、どうりで政府が急きょ「補償金を倍増」した理由がわかってきた。

The families of the victims continue to protest, and I've wondering about "missing" people. Now I begin to see why the Chinese government hastily doubled the compensation for the victims.

この国の「事故隠し」は我が国のそれどころではないといえる。

China's "hiding the accident" is well beyond that of Japan.

とまれ、外務省はもとより、各メディアには中国の「放射能漏れ事故」に関する情報入手を急いでほしい。中国 製原発の事故は避けられないだろうから、来年の黄砂飛来時期が気にかかる。取り急ぎ情報まで!

Anyway, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Japanese media should try to obtain more information about China's "nuclear leak accident". It is inevitable that a Chinese-made nuclear power plant will have an accident, and I'm concerned about the next year's "yellow sand" season. Just to let you know the news quickly.

I don't know if China's "hiding" is any worse than that of Japan, but if I see any confirming information I'll update.

After the Fukushima I nuclear accident, it dawned on many Japanese (probably for the first time) that almost entire Japan is DOWNWIND from China, who plans to have 100 nuclear power plants. And thanks to the Fukushima accident, many Japanese now know it's not the distance that matters when it comes to a nuclear power plant accident, but wind and weather.

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/07/japanese-military-analyst-chinese.html

Serpo
2nd August 2011, 02:43 PM
Some translation also...........


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv1IMiZkYDo&feature=player_embedded

beefsteak
2nd August 2011, 05:12 PM
Dr. Busby bullet points:
--Tritium in the water,
---Polluted Milk and Dairy Products,
----Cesium polluted consumable sea life
-----Fissioning forever.
------Not a "Japanese problem," it's a Global Problem

*Injested radiation is the worst radioactive contamination possible. Evolution of the human body has not been able to mitigate like consumable evolution mitigations have accomplished.

*Q&A
........w/r/t 1Gbq/hr "over there."

=============


Commentary:
And we're putting loads above the limits of sanity on our shopping credit cards? Never thought I'd say this, but Putin is dead on. Parasitic behavior on the part of US is totally accurate. However, shameful economic antics do NOT trump Fukushima.

Thank you, Dr. Busby.


beefsteak

osoab
4th August 2011, 04:51 PM
Did Japan up the childhood need for radiation?

#Radiation in Japan: 12,600 High School Students from All Over Japan Gather in Fukushima for Annual Cultural Festival (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/radiation-in-japan-12600-high-school.html)



As ultra-hot spots exceeding 5 sieverts/hour are being discovered Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant and as the situation of serious radiation contamination is finally starting to sink in, what do they do in Fukushima Prefecture?

Hold the annual high school cultural festival, gathering high school students from all over Japan to Fukushima, in cities where high-radiation hot spots have been discovered throughout, or highly radioactive rice hay/meat cow has been found, or both. In one of the cities, Fukushima City, cobalt-60 has been detected (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/06/radiation-in-japan-greenpeace-detected.html) in the soil in a park.

Business as usual, extend and pretend that everything is back to normal. Radiation? What radiation?

The 35th All Japan High School Cultural Festival in Fukushima 2011 (http://www.fukushimasoubun.gr.fks.ed.jp/about/index.htm) started, as scheduled, on August 3. A variety of events organized by the high school students (yes, students in Fukushima Prefecture had been so hard at work), with the help of teachers and administrators, will be held in cities like:

Fukushima City
Koriyama City
Sukagawa City
Shirakawa City
Aizu Wakamatsu City
Kitakata City
Minami Soma City
Iwaki City

The event is organized by the Agency for Cultural Affairs and the Boards of Education in each city in Fukushima, both under the Ministry of Education and Science.

Asahi Shinbun, which is one of the special sponsors of the event, reports, with hardly a mention of the Fukushima I Nuke Plant accident or radiation contamination in Fukushima. All it says about radiation is that "some venues have been changed because of a concern for radiation level..." It's just a "concern", not the real thing:

From Asahi Shinbun (http://www.asahi.com/national/update/0803/TKY201108030192.html) (8/3/2011):

第 35回全国高校総合文化祭福島大会(ふくしま総文、文化庁など主催、朝日新聞社など特別後援)が3日、福島 県で開幕した。原発事故の影響で一時は開催が危 ぶまれたが、合唱、美術・工芸、囲碁、将棋、小倉百人一首かるたなど15部門に全国から約1万2600人の 高校生が参加。7日まで、13の会場で練習の成 果を競い合う。

The 35th Annual All Japan High School Cultural Festival in Fukushima 2011 started as scheduled on August 3. The event is organized by the Agency for Cultural Affairs and others and sponsored by companies including Asahi Shinbun. There was a doubt as to whether the event would be held because of the Fukushima nuclear plant accident, but now 12,600 high school students from all over the country come to Fukushima, and will compete in 15 events that include chorus, art and craft, game of "go", Japanese chess.

 「文化部のインターハイ」とも呼ばれる大会は、生徒や教師 らでつくる実行委員会が1年以上前から準備を進めてきた。当初は23部門に2万人が参加予定だったが、東日 本大震災で会場施設の一部が避難所になったこと や、予定地周辺の放射能への不安などを考慮して、一部の部門は中止されたり、他地域に会場が変更されたりし た。

The Festival is dubbed as "intercollegiate for high-school cultural clubs". The organizing committee of students and teachers have been preparing for the Festival for over a year. Initially, 23 events were planned that 20,000 students would participate in. But after the March 11 earthquake/tsunami some of the event venues became the evacuation shelters, and there was a concern for the radiation level in the areas where the events would be held. As the result, some events have been canceled, or the venues have been changed to other locations.

 総合開会式は4日に会津若松市で開かれる。地元の生徒ら550人が出演する大がかりな劇で、福島の復興に かける思いを表現する。

The grand opening ceremony will be held in Aizu Wakamatsu City on August 4. 550 local high school students will participate in a play that will express their hope for the recovery of Fukushima.
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 ふくしま総文は、約3200人の福島の高校生が運営要員として支える。空港や主要駅での案内のほか、会場 設営の手伝いやお茶のサービス、駅や会場周辺の花飾りなども担う。

The Festival is supported by 3,200 high school students in Fukushima Prefecture who serve as the operating personnel for the organizing committee. They act as guides at the airport and at the major train stations, as well as helping set up the event venues, provide tea service, flower arrangements at the train stations and at the event venues.

 福島空港では、大阪から来た飛行機を県立須賀川高校の4人が笑顔で出迎えた。事前に想定問答を繰り返し、 空港内の案内はもちろん、各会場への交通アクセスも説明している。兵庫から来た高校生に「頑張って下さいね 」と声をかけて送り出した。

At the Fukushima Airport, 4 students from Sukagawa High School greeted the plane flown in from Osaka. They had prepared themselves well with hypothetical questions and answers. They guided the participants from Hyogo Prefecture through the airport, explained how to get to the event venues. They sent off the Hyogo students with "We hope you'll do your best."

 JR郡山駅では、県立あさか開成高校の鼡田(ねずみだ)紗輝さん(17)と武田ひかるさん(17)が参加 者を待ち受けた。鼡田さんは「大きな被害が出た福島に、遠くから多くの人が来てくれる。緊張しますが、笑顔 で迎えます」と話した。

At JR Koriyama Station, two girls from Asaka Kaisei High School were waiting for the participants. One girl said, "So many people are coming from far away places to Fukushima, where much damage has been sustained. I'm nervous, but I will greet them with a smile."
Visiting for a few days in a high-radiation area is different from living in such an area, you would say. So?

There was a piece of news back in May which was very quickly buried. The news said that thousands of people received elevated radiation just by being in Fukushima Prefecture for a few days.

The organization "Safe Children of Fukushima" put up a Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=247615641919641) telling the high school students of the risk of radiation, and specific steps what they should do which include not going to Fukushima. The organization tells the students, "If you do go, take protective measures against radiation, and talk about the radiation risks with the students in Fukushima." It has a map showing the radiation measurement along the railway line - approaching Koriyama City and Fukushima City, the level goes up to that of radiation control areas in nuclear facilities.

No matter. The governor of Fukushima, Yuhei Sato, as the honorary chairman of the organizing committee, would never think of depriving Fukushima high school students of their once-in-a-lifetime opportunity of hosting this prestigious cultural event.

And why should he? He clearly doesn't even care for kindergarteners in Fukushima, as it turns out he was probably the one who wanted 20 millisieverts/year radiation limit for school children.

beefsteak
4th August 2011, 05:40 PM
Osoab,
when I was much younger, I was always fascinated by the orchestra continuing to play as the Titanic sank. Now, I observe the "life goes on" Japanese, especially where the children are concerned, and remember the Titanic's orchestral performance...

osoab
4th August 2011, 05:53 PM
Osoab,
when I was much younger, I was always fascinated by the orchestra continuing to play as the Titanic sank. Now, I observe the "life goes on" Japanese, especially where the children are concerned, and remember the Titanic's orchestral performance...


Pretty crazy stuff beefsteak. I am under the impression that they are trying to keep things normal. Saving face.

I would like to get Osaka's opinion on what's going on. More of a boots on the ground observation especially with the mood of the Japanese equivalent of joe six pack.

osoab
4th August 2011, 06:04 PM
Found this over at EX-SKF too. I couldn't tell you if it was from inside a nuke plant.

#Fukushima I Nuke Plant: Video of Packbot Approaching 5+ Sievert/Hr Location inside Reactor 1 (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-video-of-packbot.html)


(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GPbMjiMctY)Someone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GPbMjiMctY) posted the video (zip file (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-reactor-1-it-was.html) from TEPCO that I linked yesterday) on Youtube. Thank you.

The Packbot crawls toward the "train room" (for emergency gas treatment system), as 9 carbon-based colleagues watch from behind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GPbMjiMctY&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GPbMjiMctY&feature=player_embedded

keehah
5th August 2011, 01:42 AM
The start of a long article.

Japan’s Fukushima catastrophe brings big radiation spikes to B.C.
http://www.straight.com/article-415211/vancouver/fukushima-brings-big-radiation-spikes-bc
By Alex Roslin, August 4, 2011

After Japan’s Fukushima catastrophe, Canadian government officials reassured jittery Canadians that the radioactive plume billowing from the destroyed nuclear reactors posed zero health risks in this country.

In fact, there was reason to worry. Health Canada detected massive amounts of radioactive material from Fukushima in Canadian air in March and April at monitoring stations across the country.

The level of radioactive iodine spiked above the federal maximum allowed limit in the air at four of the five sites where Health Canada monitors levels of specific radioisotopes.

On March 18, seven days after an earthquake and tsunami triggered eventual nuclear meltdowns at the Fukushima Daiichi plant in Japan, the first radioactive material wafted over the Victoria suburb of Sidney on Vancouver Island.

For 22 days, a Health Canada monitoring station in Sidney detected iodine-131 levels in the air that were 61 percent above the government’s allowable limit. In Resolute Bay, Nunavut, the levels were 3.5 times the limit.

Meanwhile, government officials claimed there was nothing to worry about. “The quantities of radioactive materials reaching Canada as a result of the Japanese nuclear incident are very small and do not pose any health risk to Canadians,” Health Canada says on its website. “The very slight increases in radiation across the country have been smaller than the normal day-to-day fluctuations from background radiation.”

In fact, Health Canada’s own data shows this isn’t true. The iodine-131 level in the air in Sidney peaked at 3.6 millibecquerels per cubic metre on March 20. That’s more than 300 times higher than the background level, which is 0.01 or fewer millibecquerels per cubic metre.

“There have been massive radiation spikes in Canada because of Fukushima,” said Gordon Edwards, president of the Canadian Coalition for Nuclear Responsibility.

“The authorities don’t want people to have an understanding of this. The government of Canada tends to pooh-pooh the dangers of nuclear power because it is a promoter of nuclear energy and uranium sales.”...

...Even the Tokyo Electric Power Company, which owns the Fukushima plant, has acknowledged that the disaster may surpass the 1986 Chernobyl catastrophe. “The radiation leak has not stopped completely, and our concern is that the amount of leakage could eventually reach that of Chernobyl or exceed it,” a TEPCO official said in an April media release.

In the case of Chernobyl, radiation caused 985,000 deaths worldwide—including almost 170,000 in North America—between 1986 and 2004, according to a Russian study published by the New York Academy of Sciences in 2009. Fallout contaminated about 100,000 square kilometres of land. And 25 years later, five to seven percent of government spending in Ukraine is still devoted to dealing with the disaster’s health, environmental, and other after-effects....

This year’s returning sockeye are just starting to be caught off Vancouver Island’s west coast. So far, there is no word as to whether or not these fish will be tested. According to an April 17 story in the Anchorage Daily News, U.S. federal officials have already stated that there is no need to even test Alaskan salmon...
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I have two of those sockeye in the freezer.
Another I ate fresh baked. I was really really tasty. For the others I could take half an iodine pill in the morning?

Thankfully we are several half-lifes away from the main events. Is my government not testing to 'prove' it is safe just to continue the denial? Or because the levels still are dangerous? Life would be so much easier without having to second guess not much honest governments much of the time.

beefsteak
5th August 2011, 10:03 PM
Nuke Engineer and former Nuke Plant Operator, Arnie Gunderson, has a new vimeo out...speaks directly to radiation levels.

Here's the "tease/hook"....
TEPCO has discovered locations on the Fukushima plant site with lethal levels of external gamma radiation. Fairewinds takes a close look at how this radiation might have been deposited and how similar radioactive material would have been released offsite.

http://fairewinds.com/content/lethal-levels-radiation-fukushima-what-are-implications

PatColo
5th August 2011, 11:43 PM
this was from last mon,

Yoichi Shimatsu
Japan Update 8.1.11
Free MP3 - Listen
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/audio_icon.gif (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Shimatsu_080111.mp3)

rense.com interviews him and another expert every monday night's live show, and posts the mp3 commercial free at the site the next day.

beefsteak
7th August 2011, 02:25 PM
Thanks again, PatColo.

Radioactive BLOW HOLES?
Fuku 1-6 going to end up in a SinkHole?
Volcanic blasting Radiation Spread?

Boy, that was an uncheerful listen.

But the really startling one that is ahead of us besides Leaning Tower of Pizza F#4, is the contemplating of OPENING #3. What part of containment don't the Japanese get?

And these are the expendable Tepco management personnel doing the thinking, yes?


beefsteak

osoab
7th August 2011, 02:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXh8vsedMtA&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXh8vsedMtA&feature=player_embedded

The levels are small micro sieverts.

Serpo
7th August 2011, 05:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZYvodtZDTc&feature=player_embedded

PatColo
7th August 2011, 06:09 PM
Kaku:


Radiation Levels Strong Enough To Kill A Man In Seconds Detected At Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lDUkKODR4I

PatColo
7th August 2011, 11:48 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)
Japan Rice Futures Surge 40%, Trigger Circuit Breaker On Concerns Fukushima Radiation Will Destroy Crops (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/japan-rice-futures-surge-40-trigger-circuit-breaker-concerns-fukushima-radiation-will-destroy-c)

Submitted by Tyler Durden (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) on 08/08/2011 - 00:22 http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/Rice%20Futures.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/Rice%20Futures.jpg)
70 years after rice futures trading was halted on the Tokyo Grain Exchange, it was finally reopened today... only to be halted immediately. The reason: concerns that Fukushima radiation would destroy rice crops and collapse supply sent the contract price soaring from the reference price of Y13,500 to a ridiculous Y18,500 at which point it was halted. Note the tick chart below which puts any of our own stupid vacuum tube-induced HFT algos to outright shame. That said, the move should not come as a surprise at least to our readers after we predicted the day Fukushima blew up (and even before (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/rice-next)) that very soon rice prices would surge to record highs. Little by little, that realization is dawning on everyone.


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/all/themes/images/twitter.png (http://twitter.com/home/?status=http://www.zerohedge.com/node/436292+--+From+ZeroHedge:+Japan%20Rice%20Futures%20Surge%20 40%,%20Trigger%20Circuit%20Breaker%20On%20Concerns %20Fukushima%20Radiation%20Will%20Destroy%20Crops)
Comments: 95 (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/japan-rice-futures-surge-40-trigger-circuit-breaker-concerns-fukushima-radiation-will-destroy-c#comments)
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Serpo
8th August 2011, 03:17 PM
Asahi Shinbun (3:02AM JST 8/8/2011; not the literal translation)

[Fumiya Tanabe, former head of the research at Japan Atomic Energy Agency] thinks the fuel melted and dropped to the bottom of the Reactor Pressure Vessel of Reactor 3 by March 14′s explosion; then the melted fuel stayed there, cooled by more than 300-tonnes/day water. However, the amount of water injected dropped to only 24 tonnes per day from March 21 to 23, and 69 tonnes per day on March 24, probably due to increased pressure within the RPV.

It caused the melted fuel to heat up again, and the fuel melted through the RPV and dropped onto the Containment Vessel (pedestal; see the diagram from Asahi).

According to Tanabe, the amount of water from March 21 to 24 was only about 11 to 32% of what was needed to remove the decay heat, and within one day the melted fuel would attain the melting temperature again.

Tanabe thinks this massive “re-melting” caused the release of a large amount of radioactive materials into the environment which caused a spike in air radiation in wide areas of Tohoku and Kanto including Tokyo, and most of the re-melted fuel dropped from the RPV to the Containment Vessel.

Tanabe will present the result of his research on Reactor 3 at Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant in the upcoming Atomic Energy Society of Japan’s conference next month.

See also: “Most” of the fuel at Reactor No. 3 may have breached vessel after melting down again
Related Posts
Melted fuel in Reactor No. 3 appears to have burned through pressure vessel — Loaded with rods containing plutonium May 18, 2011
IAEA informed in March that No. 1 reactor core started melting about 50 minutes after cooling stopped — Melted pile of fuel in 3.5 hours May 23, 2011
TEPCO says “sharp rise” in temperature at reactor No. 3, up 70ºF in a day — Japanese media: Is it due to the melting of nuclear fuel? May 8, 2011
Molten fuel made it outside of Containment Vessel at Reactor No. 1– Pressure Vessel is “completely broken” says Kyoto U. nuclear professor May 17, 2011
Japan report: “Nuclear fuel has melted in three reactors” — Risk of “massive radioactive release” April 15, 2011

607
http://enenews.com/japan-nuclear-expert-massive-re-melting-at-reactor-no-3-fuel-dropped-to-containment-vessel-diagram

osoab
8th August 2011, 03:28 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)
Japan Rice Futures Surge 40%, Trigger Circuit Breaker On Concerns Fukushima Radiation Will Destroy Crops (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/japan-rice-futures-surge-40-trigger-circuit-breaker-concerns-fukushima-radiation-will-destroy-c)



This is weird. Why in the world would they pick yesterday (or 2 days ago?) to open trading on rice. With the volatility in the market and innefective bullets the Japanese central bank is throwing at the Yen, why would they allow trading?

This has to be positive for Japanese moral. ::)

osoab
8th August 2011, 06:51 PM
W7VOA (http://twitter.com/#%21/W7VOA) Steve Herman



Can't fail to mention amid all this that TEPCO shares are down 13% so far today. #Schadenfreude (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Schadenfreude) #Fukushima (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Fukushima) #Japan (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Japan)



This guy is tweeting the asian markets.

PatColo
8th August 2011, 07:28 PM
this was from last mon,

Yoichi Shimatsu
Japan Update 8.1.11
Free MP3 - Listen
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/audio_icon.gif (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Shimatsu_080111.mp3)

rense.com interviews him and another expert every monday night's live show, and posts the mp3 commercial free at the site the next day.

rense radio show is starting right now, 7 - 10 PM PT, then the 3 hours repeat immediately after from 10P - 1A PT. Schedule shows Deagle 2nd hour (8P) & Shimatsu next hour tonight,:


(http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kiddA.htm)Special Report On Rebel
War Crimes In Libya Dr. Bill Deagle (http://www.nutrimedical.com/)
Fukushima Nuclear
Disaster Worsens From Japan
Yoichi Shimatsu
A Nation In Pure
Denial And Escape

stream links to listen:
http://www.renseradio.com/images/wmp.gif (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/livefeeds/16k.asx) http://www.renseradio.com/images/winamp.gif (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/livefeeds/16k.m3u) http://www.renseradio.com/images/realp.gif (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/livefeeds/16k.ram) http://www.renseradio.com/vlccone.gif
VLC (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/livefeeds/16k.asx)

beefsteak
8th August 2011, 08:45 PM
This is weird. Why in the world would they pick yesterday (or 2 days ago?) to open trading on rice....why would they allow trading?

Suggest that this was to create a "benchmark" upon which to base a gigantic cash forward contract for product in storage. Someone has Japanese Govt by short-hairs quite literally to pull this archane card from their sleeve!!!!!!!!!

beefsteak

Serpo
9th August 2011, 03:13 AM
This is weird. Why in the world would they pick yesterday (or 2 days ago?) to open trading on rice. With the volatility in the market and innefective bullets the Japanese central bank is throwing at the Yen, why would they allow trading?

This has to be positive for Japanese moral. ::)

Their rice is already cooked

DMac
9th August 2011, 01:31 PM
Experts: Fukushima 'off-scale' lethal radiation level infers millions dying (http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/experts-fukushima-off-scale-lethal-radiation-level-100s-millions-deaths#ixzz1UYKYGIXe)

snip

Fukushima nuclear power plant radiation recordings of external gamma radiation have been so high this week, they went off scale said veteran nuclear expert Arnie Gunderson on Thursday after the famous physicist, Dr. Chris Busby told the Japanese people this week that radioactive air contamination there is now 300 times that of Chernobyl and 1000 times the atomic bomb peak in 1963, inferring that hundreds of millions of people are now dying from Fukushima radiation, including people in the United States.

beefsteak
9th August 2011, 02:04 PM
PatColo,
w/r/t Dr Deagle's nutraceutical, glutathione extracted from bovine grazing on good pasture grasses, I couldn't help but wonder where he's going to go for his "good grass" since the fallout in USA is significant, and now particularly lethally compounded post 1950's SW USA testing.

Any clues? I went to his site, and was overwhelmed by the sales pitch for products. If you have a link where he's talking his research and not trying to sell me something, I'd sure appreciate it.
Thanks.


beefsteak

beefsteak
9th August 2011, 02:06 PM
Experts: Fukushima 'off-scale' lethal radiation level infers millions dying (http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/experts-fukushima-off-scale-lethal-radiation-level-100s-millions-deaths#ixzz1UYKYGIXe)

snip

Fukushima nuclear power plant radiation recordings of external gamma radiation have been so high this week, they went off scale said veteran nuclear expert Arnie Gunderson on Thursday after the famous physicist, Dr. Chris Busby told the Japanese people this week that radioactive air contamination there is now 300 times that of Chernobyl and 1000 times the atomic bomb peak in 1963, inferring that hundreds of millions of people are now dying from Fukushima radiation, including people in the United States.

Thanks, DMac.

Did you hear on the Yoichi portion of the interview posted above (not the 8/1/2011 one but the "live one" 8/8/2011 from last night) by PatColo about the upcoming Fuku#3 and #4 door opening this Oct/Nov/Dec and how it will make it over here, West Coast first, of course. Canada must also be "thrilled" and anticipating said trade-winds' distributions during that 4th Q 2011.

Joe King
9th August 2011, 10:20 PM
Osoab,
when I was much younger, I was always fascinated by the orchestra continuing to play as the Titanic sank. Now, I observe the "life goes on" Japanese, especially where the children are concerned, and remember the Titanic's orchestral performance...


Pretty crazy stuff beefsteak. I am under the impression that they are trying to keep things normal. Saving face.

Yep. Trying to maintain normality and perhaps just trying to avert a full blown panic over something that no one can really do anything about.

Same goes for the Titanic.
ie you know you're gonna be in the water soon enough and there's nothing you can do about it.
So the choice becomes try to make the best out of the little time you still have, possibly doing something you enjoy, or run around like a chicken with your head cut off in full-panic mode, thereby wasting what little time you have.

When you know you've only a little, me thinks it would be precious time.

osoab
10th August 2011, 04:17 AM
rense radio show is starting right now, 7 - 10 PM PT, then the 3 hours repeat immediately after from 10P - 1A PT. Schedule shows Deagle 2nd hour (8P) & Shimatsu next hour tonight,:


(http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kiddA.htm)Special Report On Rebel
War Crimes In Libya Dr. Bill Deagle (http://www.nutrimedical.com/)
Fukushima Nuclear
Disaster Worsens From Japan
Yoichi Shimatsu
A Nation In Pure
Denial And Escape

stream links to listen:
http://www.renseradio.com/images/wmp.gif (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/livefeeds/16k.asx) http://www.renseradio.com/images/winamp.gif (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/livefeeds/16k.m3u) http://www.renseradio.com/images/realp.gif (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/livefeeds/16k.ram) http://www.renseradio.com/vlccone.gif
VLC (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/livefeeds/16k.asx)


Yoichi interview from Monday. The mp3 has the 8-8-11 date. The Update at rense says 8-1-11. It is a different audio file than the one PatColo posted for the 8-1-11 interview.

NEW
Yoichi Shimatsu
Japan Update 8.1.11
Free MP3 - Listen
http://www.rense.com/1.mpicons/audio_icon.gif (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Shimatsu_080811.mp3)


http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Shimatsu_080811.mp3

undgrd
10th August 2011, 07:30 AM
Experts: Fukushima 'off-scale' lethal radiation level infers millions dying (http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/experts-fukushima-off-scale-lethal-radiation-level-100s-millions-deaths#ixzz1UYKYGIXe)

snip

Fukushima nuclear power plant radiation recordings of external gamma radiation have been so high this week, they went off scale said veteran nuclear expert Arnie Gunderson on Thursday after the famous physicist, Dr. Chris Busby told the Japanese people this week that radioactive air contamination there is now 300 times that of Chernobyl and 1000 times the atomic bomb peak in 1963, inferring that hundreds of millions of people are now dying from Fukushima radiation, including people in the United States.


Wouldn't we start seeing people drop dead in Japan within the next few days if the levels are really as high as this article indicates?

DMac
10th August 2011, 07:31 AM
Thanks, DMac.

Did you hear on the Yoichi portion of the interview posted above (not the 8/1/2011 one but the "live one" 8/8/2011 from last night) by PatColo about the upcoming Fuku#3 and #4 door opening this Oct/Nov/Dec and how it will make it over here, West Coast first, of course. Canada must also be "thrilled" and anticipating said trade-winds' distributions during that 4th Q 2011.

I have not listened in...I'm not a fan of Bill Deagle, but on your recommendation I will check it out.

DMac
10th August 2011, 07:35 AM
Wouldn't we start seeing people drop dead in Japan within the next few days if the levels are really as high as this article indicates?

I can't say. What I find interesting about the article, and find plausible, is the similarity of the million(s) of deaths caused by Chernobyl. The deaths are not immediate, they are drawn out over time.

So in this instance (Fukushima), we have an event many levels worse than Chernobyl, indicating that millions are currently in a "slow death" position. Radiation will take time to run its course in this depopulation event.

beefsteak
10th August 2011, 10:30 AM
Serpo,
that vid link you posted above has been yanked. Could you bullet points it from memory for us???

For example, were they really showing in B&W, some worker handling spent rods? YIKES!

gunDriller
10th August 2011, 01:43 PM
I can't say. What I find interesting about the article, and find plausible, is the similarity of the million(s) of deaths caused by Chernobyl. The deaths are not immediate, they are drawn out over time.

So in this instance (Fukushima), we have an event many levels worse than Chernobyl, indicating that millions are currently in a "slow death" position. Radiation will take time to run its course in this depopulation event.

and Oncologists (cancer doctors) and their support team (anaesthesiologists) and the pharm companies will make $$$$ on all that cancer.

for them it's a HUUUGE profit center.

Serpo
10th August 2011, 02:41 PM
Serpo,
that vid link you posted above has been yanked. Could you bullet points it from memory for us???

For example, were they really showing in B&W, some worker handling spent rods? YIKES!

It was long and involved and covered a lot of areas........wonder why it was taken down though

Serpo
10th August 2011, 04:07 PM
http://xkcd.com/radiation/

radiation dose chart

beefsteak
10th August 2011, 10:22 PM
EneNews.com has posted this article:



Breaking News: A Tokyo citizen turned out to be internally exposed

Posted by Mochizuki on August 8th, 2011




http://fukushima-diary.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/internal-b.jpg (http://fukushima-diary.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/internal-b.jpg)




A man from Tokyo went to Hokkaido for sightseeing.

He had a whole body counter check to see if he’s taken radioactive particles into his body.
The result was “positive”.
Cesium137 ; 868bq
Cesium134 ; 6373bq

The doctor asked him if he went to Fukushima, he replied no.
He normally spent days in Tokyo.


Now it’s pretty rational to think most of the other people are equally dosed.


The doctor added,
"There are too little sample of low dose symptoms, so even if you have cancer in the future,
maybe it’s hard to prove it has something to do with Fukushima."




======================

Sure wish there were those computer map projections still up and viewable by the planet's people.

osoab
11th August 2011, 08:31 AM
TEPCO says it has lost contact with 143 nuclear plant workers (http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/tepco-says-it-has-lost-contact-with-143-nuclear-plant-workers)



August 11, 2011

TOKYO —
Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) said Thursday that it has not been able to locate 143 individuals working to restore the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant since May. The utility said it has no idea if the 143 have been exposed to radiation and to what level.

According to a report from TEPCO given to the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare, TEPCO hired many of the workers through subcontractors from all over Japan for limited periods and kept no records of their addresses. On any given day, TEPCO said it has had up to 1,000 workers on rotating schedules at the stricken power plant.

Asahi Geino reported in May that subcontractors were hiring day laborers to work at the plant. The daily remuneration was three times that of regular day jobs if within the grounds of the reactor complex, and 1.5 times higher if within the wider area now restricted due to high radioactivity.

While safety measures are in place to keep workers’ daily exposure to radiation within safe levels, claims for compensation due to sickness from overexposure are unlikely to be paid out, the magazine reported.

Spectrism
11th August 2011, 09:35 AM
I bet most of them still eat sushi. Where is the fish coming from? They dumped thousands of tons of contaminated water into the ocean. That stuff may disperse, but it will always be toxic.

Golden
12th August 2011, 11:23 AM
Dial M for Meltdown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAszZG6GRY8

Serpo
12th August 2011, 04:12 PM
Alliance for Clean Energy on TVA Bellefonte Plant
by Fairewinds Associates


http://vimeo.com/27481567

Golden
12th August 2011, 05:30 PM
Perhaps this video should have it's own thread?
I thought it belonged here for obvious implications.
With Love and Gratitude, Water:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB7acCDgUgA

Serpo
12th August 2011, 06:47 PM
Friday, August 12, 2011
Now It's #Radioactive Firewood: But It's "Culturally Insensitive" Not to Burn It, Say Japanese Radiation Experts

They were going to burn it in Kyoto in the annual "Gozan no Okuribi" - ceremonial bonfire to send off the spirits of the dead at the end of Bon Festival. It was going to be burned for the people who died in the disaster-affected area, particularly in Rikuzen Takata City in Iwate Prefecture, where the firewood was made from the fallen pine trees.

When the news first broke of the plan to use the firewood from Rikuzen Takata City in Iwate, 185 km north of Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant, concerned Kyoto residents protested, fearing the spread of radioactive materials by burning the wood. The residents were roundly scolded for being selfish, uncaring, insensitive to the people who suffered so much in the earthquake/tsunami of March 11.

Then, on August 10, radioactive cesium was detected, as high as 1,480 becquerels/kg, from the debris in Rikuzen Takata City.

Someone decided to test the new batch of firewood that came from Rikuzen Takata City on August 11, and they turned out to be radioactive. Not much, in the current radioactive state of things in Japan, as it was "only" 1,130 becquerels/kg of radioactive cesium.

Kyoto City has decided not to use the firewood after all. But the city is being scolded for overreacting and "culturally insensitive". Kyoto? Culturally insensitive?

From Yomiuri Shinbun (12:06AM 8/13/2011):

「せっかく五山の足並みがそろったのに」――。「京都五山送り火」で燃やす予定だった岩手県陸前高田市の松 で作った薪(まき)から放射性セシウムが検出され、計画の中止が決まった12日、京都市や送り火保存会の関 係者は落胆と戸惑いを隠せなかった。

"Just when we thought we were all going to do it..." On August 12, Kyoto City decided not to burn the firewood made from the pine trees from Rikuzen Takata City in Iwate prefecture because of radioactive cesium detected from the firewood. The firewood was to be burned in the "Kyoto Gozan no Okuribi" bonfire [on August 16]. Organizers of the event in Kyoto City were disappointed and perplexed.

 再度の使用中止について、京都市の門川大作市長は「陸前高田市をはじめ、被災地の皆様に悲しい思いをさせ てしまい、心を痛めている。尽力頂いた皆様に心からおわびします」と肩を落とした。門川市長は、「(薪は) 食品と違って国の基準はなく、国には早く基準を示してほしい」と繰り返した。

Kyoto City Mayor Daisaku Kadokawa apologized, "I am heart-broken for having disappointed people in Rikuzen Takata City and in the disaster-affected areas. I sincerely apologize to people who have put in tremendous effort in making it happen." The mayor repeated, "there is no national safety standard for firewood. I urge the national government to create the safety standard as soon as possible."

 薪を提供した福井県坂井市のNPO法人「ふくい災害ボランティアネット」の東角(ひがしかど)操代表(5 3)は頭を抱えた。薪の売り上げを復興支援にあてる計画で、5月に陸前高田市の国の名勝「高田松原」から、 津波で流された松を回収、販売し、7月中旬から、発送を始めたばかり。これまで薪を1本ずつ簡易検査し、放 射性物質は検出されなかったという。「少しでも復興の力になればと始めた活動が、思いもよらぬ事態になって 戸惑っている」と東角代表は語った。

The firewood was provided by an NPO "Fukui Disaster Volunteer Net" in Sakai City in Fukui Prefecture. The head of the NPO, Misao Higashikado doesn't know what to do. He planned the proceeds from the sale of the firewood to go to the disaster relief effort, and in May his organization collected the pine trees felled in the March 11 tsunami from "Takata Matsubara", a national scenic spot, and started to sell the firewood made from the pine trees. The shipment just started in mid July. He says every piece of the firewood has been tested one by one by a simple testing, and that no radioactive materials have been detected. "I am bewildered by the turn of events. We just wanted to help the recovery in the disaster-affected area", he says.

The head of this NPO, Misao Higashikado, is also an Assemblyman in the Fukui Prefectural Assembly.

The mayor of Kyoto City sounds like he would order the burning as soon as there's a national safety limit for firewood, even if that limit is 8,000 becquerels/kg or 100,000 becquerels/kg. (Well, there is no filter that could trap radioactive materials in the open-air burning like this.)

The so-called radiation experts are still excoriating Kyoto City and its residents for insensitivity, according to Mainichi Shinbun Japanese (8/12/2011):

One of them, Otsura Niwa, professor emeritus at Kyoto University (radiation biology) and the main committee member of the International Commission on Radiological Protection (ICRP) says:


「仮に表皮を1キロ食べ、全て体に吸収されたとしても取るに足らない線量」と指摘した上で、「意味のないク リーンさを求めた今回の判断は被災地の方々の気持ちを踏みにじるものだ」

"Even if one ate 1 kilogram of the bark [they tested the bark] and it were all absorbed in the body, the radiation level would be negligible. It's a meaningless pursuit of cleanliness that tramples down the feelings of the people in the disaster-affected area."


Another one, Ikuro Anzai, professor emeritus at Ritsumeikan University, even if his specialty is radiation protection, accuses people in Kyoto (of all people in Japan...) of destroying the cultural tradition of Japan:

「五山の送り火は伝統的神事という性格を持つ。放射能がけがれのようにとらえられたのではないか。今回の件 は科学の問題ではなく、文化の問題となっている。解決も文化的に行うべきで、犠牲者への追悼のセレモニーを やった方がいい」と提案する。

"'Gozan no Okuribi' is a traditional religious ceremony. I suspect the radiation was taken as uncleanliness or defilement. This is not the matter of science but of culture. It should be solved culturally, and the memorial ceremony for the deceased should be performed."

Professor Anzai, radiation contamination is indeed uncleanliness, and it cannot be cleaned by spreading it all over Kyoto. The memorial ceremony for the deceased can be performed without burning the radioactive firewood over the city of Kyoto. I do not believe the deceased in the disaster-affected areas would want to spread the radiation unnecessarily.

Not to be outdone by the specialists, the mayor of Rikuzen Takata City chimes in:

京都市に対しては、「風評被害を広げ、他の被災地にも京都市民にも迷惑がかかっている。もっと慎重にやって いただきたかった」と苦言を呈した

To Kyoto City, the mayor said, "It has spread the baseless rumor [that the firewood from Rikuzen Takata is radioactive - never mind it is], and that has inconvenienced people in the disaster-affected areas and residents in Kyoto City. I would have liked the city to proceed more cautiously."

Here we go. Radioactive firewood is just another "baseless rumor".

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/now-its-radioactive-firewood-but-its.html

Serpo
12th August 2011, 07:05 PM
Perhaps this video should have it's own thread?
I thought it belonged here for obvious implications.
With Love and Gratitude, Water:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB7acCDgUgA

Very Powerful GS ........

worth watching to say the least.......

and we are mainly water......

so the water in our bodies become impressions also...........

so the answer is ... improve the vibration of the water you are consuming and be aware that we are water and that our environment is going to affect us.

we can contaminate our water in side of us with negative charge instead of a positive charge.

the best water in the world looks like it is sparking and alive

we are water so that is what we become....

simplest thing to do is thank the water before you drink it

Serpo
13th August 2011, 03:22 PM
Radiation contamination leaves Fukushima schools unable to drain pool water

http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/images/20110813p2a00m0na015000p_size5.jpg An educator checks the state of contaminated pool water at Watari Elementary School in Fukushima on Aug. 4, 2011. (Mainichi)

Many schools in Fukushima Prefecture are at a loss over what do to with their swimming pools, which can't be used or drained because the water is tainted with radioactive materials from the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant, it has emerged.
The Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology has said schools should obtain consent from farmers when draining pool water into agricultural waterways, but the Fukushima Prefectural Board of Education has not formed any guidelines on the concentration of radiation in water that is drained -- leaving locals to sort out the issue themselves.
According to the education board, about 600 of the 735 pools at public kindergartens, elementary schools, junior high schools and high schools in Fukushima can't be drained. Most of these pools are located in eastern parts of the prefecture near the damaged nuclear plant or in central Fukushima Prefecture. One-third of the pools are designed to drain their water into sewage systems, while the rest have to drain the water directly into agricultural waterways or rivers.
The Education Ministry's School Health Education Division says there are no legal guidelines for draining pool water. The ministry instructed the prefectural education board to obtain consent from farming and other related organizations when draining pool water into rivers and agricultural waterways, and the board passed the information on to schools in May, but farmers have been reluctant to allow schools to drain pool water into waterways. There are also many cases in which schools have the option of draining water into sewage lines, but they have not done so out of consideration for local residents.
At Fukushima Daiichi Elementary School in the city of Fukushima, the bottom of the school pool is darkened with dust contaminated with radioactive materials, and algae has turned the water green.
"We're concerned about health, too, so we want to drain the pools quickly, but we don't know the extent of contamination of the water and the sludge, and we can't cause trouble for people around the school," the school's principal commented.
In the cities of Date and Minamisoma, decontamination work using zeolite and other agents that can absorb radioactive materials has been carried out, but the cost of such work is said to reach several million yen per pool.
Since May, the prefectural board of education has asked the Education Ministry to present standards and methods for draining pool water, but ministry officials have merely responded that they will consult with related government ministries and agencies, and have provided no response.
A representative of the ministry's School Health Education Division commented, "Creating standards is difficult, and there is no option but to have schools and other related parties come to an agreement."
When asked about the radiation, a representative of the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said, "We are not considering any particular response for pools alone." Meanwhile, a representative of the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport, which is in charge of sewage, said, "There is no problem with draining water into sewage lines, but when it comes to making arrangements with locals, that's out of our jurisdiction."
Muneyuki Shindo, a former Chiba University professor, said guidelines on decontamination should be provided.
"If jurisdiction over different parts of the work is divided, then officials should measure the concentration in accordance with clear instructions from the Cabinet, and present methods of decontamination," he said. "This is a typical scenario highlighting the government's lack of ability to make decisions and get things done."


http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110813p2a00m0na016000c.html

Serpo
13th August 2011, 03:24 PM
Friday, August 12, 2011

Decrease in White Blood Cells, Headache, Nausea in a Hospital in Sendai City, Miyagi (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/decrease-in-white-blood-cells-headache.html)

Tweets from a nurse (https://twitter.com/#%21/at3856) (my very good guess from her tweets) in a large hospital in Sendai City, Miyagi Prefecture on August 10:

原因不明の白血球低下、頭痛、嘔吐増えてます。既存の診断名つけられて治療しても効果なしのケースうちの病 院でもみかけます。もちろん全部放射能の影響というつもりはありませんが、これも事実です。

Increasing number of patients with unexplainable decrease in white blood cells, headache, nausea. They are diagnosed for existing illness and undergo treatment, but they don't respond to the treatment at all. I've seen those cases in my hospital. I'm not saying they are all because of the radiation exposure, but I'm telling you what I'm seeing.

患者さん洗髪すると、髪が束になってごっそり抜けます。それを見るたびほんとに怖いです。「なーんで白血球 下がってるんだろうなーーー」なんてのんきにいってる場合ですか先生。治療できない人がこれから増えていき ますよ。

When we wash their hair, it comes off in a clump. It is really scary. The doctor says, "I really wonder why the white blood cell count is down..." Doctor, don't be so relaxed about it. There is going to be more and more people who don't respond to treatment.
She suspects internal radiation from hospital meals, what does she mean by this which the in-patients have no choice but eat.

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/decrease-in-white-blood-cells-headache.html

Serpo
13th August 2011, 03:26 PM
Professor's anger at lawmakers creates buzz on Internet

SHUKAN ASAHI WEEKLY MAGAZINE
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http://www.asahicom.jp/english/images/TKY201108120311.jpgTatsuhiko Kodama, right, a University of Tokyo professor, shows residents in Minami-Soma, Fukushima Prefecture, how to reduce radiation contamination in the soil. (Takeshi Kawasaki)

An exasperated University of Tokyo professor who launched an angry tirade at lawmakers over the Fukushima nuclear crisis has become a hero to many on the Internet.
Tatsuhiko Kodama, 58, who heads the Radioisotope Center at Todai, was called to provide expert testimony before the Lower House Health, Labor and Welfare Committee on July 27.
Facing a panel of lawmakers, Kodama said, "At a time when 70,000 people have left their homes and have no idea where to go, what is the Diet doing?"
Video footage of Kodama's testimony was soon posted on YouTube, and within a few days, the video had been viewed more than 200,000 times.
Responses to the footage were generally favorable.
"I was deeply moved that Todai has a professor like him," said one post.
"I understand the scary truth. I understand the inaction of the central government," said another.
Besides being a doctor of internal medicine, Kodama is also an expert on internal radiation exposure. His background made even more shocking the testimony he provided in the Diet.
"(On March 21), Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said, 'There are no immediate problems for people's health.' At that time, I felt something very disastrous was about to occur," Kodama said. "When we look at problems from radiation, we consider the total exposure amount. Neither Tokyo Electric Power Co. nor the central government have made any clear report about total exposure from the accident at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant."
The Radioisotope Center conducted its own calculations on the level of radiation contamination arising from the Fukushima nuclear accident.
Kodama explained the horrifying results of those calculations at the committee session.
"The equivalent of 29.6 times of the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima, or in terms of uranium about 20 atomic bombs, were released by the accident," Kodama said. "While the remaining radiation from atomic bombs decreases to one-thousandth of the original level after a year, radioactive materials from the nuclear power plant only decrease to one-tenth the original level."
After the nuclear accident, Kodama visited Minami-Soma, Fukushima Prefecture, on seven separate occasions to help decontaminate the area of radiation.
"What I am doing right now is totally illegal," Kodama said. "Under the present law to prevent problems arising (from radiation), the amount of radiation and the type of nuclide that can be handled by each facility is determined. While I am providing support in Minami-Soma, most of the facilities do not have the authority to handle cesium. Transporting the materials by car is also illegal.
"However, we cannot leave materials with high levels of radiation to the mothers in the community. In the decontamination process, we place all materials into barrels and bring them back to Tokyo," he said.
Kodama also strongly called for a new law that would help reduce radiation exposure among children as soon as possible.
As the most pressing concern, he called for thorough measurements of radiation amounts in the contaminated areas.
"Why does the central government not spend the money needed for comprehensive measures? I want to express an anger from my entire body," Kodama said.
After the huge response from the Internet, Kodama's son posted a message on Twitter that said: "While my father may be an influential scientist, he is also just a 58-year-old man who has to take care of an ill wife. There is no way that he alone can resolve everything. In order for the situation to really improve, I believe there is something that each and every individual can do."
On Aug. 6, Kodama appeared at a news conference with Katsunobu Sakurai, the mayor of Minami-Soma, and called for emergency decontamination measures. His tone was that of a mild-mannered gentleman.
He was slightly embarrassed by the Twitter message written by his son, but he added, "The public should pay attention to see which lawmakers from what party move quickly to draw up legislation."



http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201108120245.html

Serpo
13th August 2011, 03:31 PM
just what we need ....a circus tent


Giant tent being built to cover Japan nuclear reactor


TOKYO -- The operator of Japan's damaged Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant is building a huge tent to cover one of the worst-hit reactors, officials said Friday.
Officials hope the cover will keep radioactive materials that have already leaked from spreading, prevent rainwater seepage and offer a barrier from possible leaks or blasts in the future.
The tent is being erected to provide a temporary replacement for the No. 1 reactor's outer housing shell, which was destroyed in an explosion caused by high pressure the day after Japan's deadly earthquake and tsunami on March 11.
Construction of the tent and its foundation began this week, Koji Watanabe, a spokesman for the power utility, said Friday.
The work couldn't begin until now because the location was too dangerous for workers to operate in.
The tent is made up of airtight polyester. It will stand 177 feet (54 meters) tall and stretch 154 feet (47 meters) in length. It is held up by a metal frame.
Tokyo Electric Power Co. officials have struggled to come up with ways to mitigate the dangers from the plant since the disaster struck five months ago, sending reactors into meltdowns, releasing radiative particles into the environment and causing the world's world nuclear crisis since Chernobyl in 1986.
Work at the plant has been hindered by the continuing threat of radiation to workers.
Earlier this month, TEPCO said an area where potentially lethal levels of radiation were detected near Unit 1 has been sealed.
It said radiation exceeded 10 sieverts — 40 times the highest level allowed for emergency workers' exposure — at two locations near a duct connected to a ventilation stack. The area required no immediate work and was closed off.
If the tent over reactor No. 1 proves successful, similar coverings will be constructed over other reactors on the plant. The areas around the other reactors are also highly risky to work in.
The tent is expected to be completed by the end of September, Watanabe said.


http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/japan/2011/08/13/313236/Giant-tent.htm

MNeagle
13th August 2011, 04:40 PM
Or is it to avoid satellite observation?

gunDriller
15th August 2011, 07:12 AM
new article about radiation rain from Japan ... not just Fukushima.

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/nuclear-expert-radioactive-rain-outs-will-continue-year-even-western-us-and-canada

"Nuclear Expert: Radioactive Rain-Outs Will Continue For a Year - Even In Western U.S. and Canada

Submitted by George Washington on 08/15/2011 00:26 -0400

Nuclear expert Arnie Gundersen says in a new interview that the Japanese are burning radioactive materials. The radioactivity originated from Fukushima, but various prefectures are burning radioactive materials in their terroritories.

Gundersen says that this radioactivity ends up not only in neighboring prefectures, but in Hawaii, British Columbia, Oregon, Washington and California."

http://solarimg.org/shows/SolarIMG_podcast_Arnie_Gundersen_130811.mp3

i think it's a new interview.

beefsteak
15th August 2011, 08:30 AM
Radiation contamination leaves Fukushima schools unable to drain pool water


http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/images/20110813p2a00m0na015000p_size5.jpg
An educator checks the state of contaminated pool water at Watari Elementary School in Fukushima on Aug. 4, 2011. (Mainichi)

Many schools in Fukushima Prefecture are at a loss over what do to with their swimming pools, which can't be used or drained because the water is tainted with radioactive materials from the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant, it has emerged....

http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110813p2a00m0na016000c.html

================

Granted, my geographical residency is not in Japan....HOWEVER...
where is the entrepreneurial spirit of the Japanese people?
This water can be remediated!!! It is not impossible to build a "towable unit" which can begin remediating swimming pool water, one pool at a time!!! Good God, it's been 6mo already. And no one has built even one portable unit?

Doesn't make the farmers mad. Many of them are setting the example by phytoremediation, one field at a time.

This stored water does NOT have to sit in pools, glowing and growing radioactive algae by the minute. Where's the global assistance to "fund something of this nature." Good grief. The water is already impounded!

Sometimes, all it takes is one person, with a brain to "rig up something" get started, and git 'er done!

This is appalling...to have this be such a puzzler. Radiation "paralysis" is every bit a killer as the original downwind radiation. What did they do back in the 40s? Has anyone over there even asked this question? The malaise, inertia, and reliance upon govt or the Tepcos of this world MUST be overcome.


beefsteak

beefsteak
15th August 2011, 08:37 AM
simplest thing to do is thank the water before you drink it

Interesting post, Serpo.

Thanking the Source of all water is more likely to be the queue in which I'd be found.

Expressing gratitude unlocks all kinds of power and energy...not just about water.


beefsteak

Spectrism
15th August 2011, 09:10 AM
Interesting post, Serpo.

Thanking the Source of all water is more likely to be the queue in which I'd be found.
Expressing gratitude unlocks all kinds of power and energy...not just about water.
beefsteak

Exactly. The Creator gave us the pattern-

Luk 22:17 And taking a cup, giving thanks, He said, Take this and divide it among yourselves.
Luk 22:19 And taking a loaf, giving thanks, He broke, and gave to them, saying, This is My body being given for you. This do to My remembrance.
1Th 5:16 Rejoice always.
1Th 5:17 Pray without ceasing.
1Th 5:18 In everything give thanks, for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus toward you.
1Th 5:19 Do not quench the Spirit.
1Th 5:20 Do not despise prophecies.
1Th 5:21 Test all things, hold fast the good.
1Th 5:22 Keep back from every form of evil.

beefsteak
15th August 2011, 10:55 AM
Spectrism...

I'm just speaking for me, personally, and NOT the rest of the thread on this matter.

There's a difference between the "I" statement I made about which "gratitude queue" I'd be found in, and your Bible Beating Ambush/Gotcha response. Take it elsewhere. We're beat down enough around the globe, especially post Fuku. What part of "we're in this together" do you not understand?

I know you've been lying wait in the bushes since we last danced your particular "Bible Thumpin' Other's" dance routine since March 11 on this forum.

Now, go back to the sinner seeking bushwhacking bushes. Even the Salvation Army feeds the "sinners" it seeks out/draws in.

Do NOT use any of my personal reference responses as your excuse to ambush this thread nor its "suffering with downwind radiation exposure threaders."

You have all the rest of GS to ambush. Your downwind religious radiation spew is Just not wanted here. I don't care if you are a "nice guy" and everybody in your non-virtual life thinks you are the coolest guy or not.

I genuinely suspect everyone and I do mean EVERYONE within a bazillion miles of you --pick a media-- knows you are just itching to post more Holy Writ and beat someone with your leather bound volume. Even Jesus himself didn't behave in this manner, but "waited until he was asked" as his modeled modus operandi.


beefsteak

beefsteak
15th August 2011, 11:02 AM
Interesting post, Serpo.

Thanking the Source of all water is more likely to be the queue in which I'd be found.

Expressing gratitude unlocks all kinds of power and energy...not just about water.


beefsteak

Serpo,
I meant to add something we personally engage in around here since you spoke to the vital topic of water and our need for clean, pure water.

We drink magnetized water on a semi-regular basis around here. It is definitely energy producing and slakes the thirst, also.

Remember earlier in this thread when I talked about my new daily chore of making up the family's "milk" for cooking, etc.?

The same MilkShake maker unit w/its S/S mixing container I posted a pix of earlier--which was eliminated in the change over of GS-- is circled with 4 neodyium magnets duct taped onto its shiny exterior. It is about $30 in the stores, and $5-10 at yard sales.


http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/beefsteak_GIM/mixerimage.jpg

A mere 4 mins of whirring within that S/S container corraling magnetic vortex has produced many pleasant "energy joules" physically, 8 to 12oz at a time.

Just don't try this before you go to bed. You'll be laying awake for a spell longer if you do. :D And if you forget and whip up one b4 retiring for the evening, there are those "trips" in the middle of the night to consider ... LOL


beefsteak

Serpo
15th August 2011, 03:11 PM
================

Granted, my geographical residency is not in Japan....HOWEVER...
where is the entrepreneurial spirit of the Japanese people?
This water can be remediated!!! It is not impossible to build a "towable unit" which can begin remediating swimming pool water, one pool at a time!!! Good God, it's been 6mo already. And no one has built even one portable unit?

Doesn't make the farmers mad. Many of them are setting the example by phytoremediation, one field at a time.

This stored water does NOT have to sit in pools, glowing and growing radioactive algae by the minute. Where's the global assistance to "fund something of this nature." Good grief. The water is already impounded!

Sometimes, all it takes is one person, with a brain to "rig up something" get started, and git 'er done!

This is appalling...to have this be such a puzzler. Radiation "paralysis" is every bit a killer as the original downwind radiation. What did they do back in the 40s? Has anyone over there even asked this question? The malaise, inertia, and reliance upon govt or the Tepcos of this world MUST be overcome.


beefsteak

Dosnt seem to be Japans strong point nuclear energy and anything connected to it.....the Japanese have to start thinking outside the box but dont get your hopes up......

Serpo
15th August 2011, 03:13 PM
Serpo,
I meant to add something we personally engage in around here since you spoke to the vital topic of water and our need for clean, pure water.

We drink magnetized water on a semi-regular basis around here. It is definitely energy producing and slakes the thirst, also.

Remember earlier in this thread when I talked about my new daily chore of making up the family's "milk" for cooking, etc.?

The same MilkShake maker unit w/its S/S mixing container I posted a pix of earlier--which was eliminated in the change over of GS-- is circled with 4 neodyium magnets duct taped onto its shiny exterior. It is about $30 in the stores, and $5-10 at yard sales.


http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/beefsteak_GIM/mixerimage.jpg

A mere 4 mins of whirring within that S/S container corraling magnetic vortex has produced many pleasant "energy joules" physically, 8 to 12oz at a time.

Just don't try this before you go to bed. You'll be laying awake for a spell longer if you do. :D And if you forget and whip up one b4 retiring for the evening, there are those "trips" in the middle of the night to consider ... LOL


beefsteak
I studied magnetic healing years ago as I am interested in alternative healing methods and you are right Beefsteak magnets have great powers.

Serpo
15th August 2011, 03:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXPMfz9P6_I&feature=player_embedded#at=35