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Spectrism
15th August 2011, 07:28 PM
Spectrism...

I'm just speaking for me, personally, and NOT the rest of the thread on this matter.

There's a difference between the "I" statement I made about which "gratitude queue" I'd be found in, and your Bible Beating Ambush/Gotcha response. Take it elsewhere. We're beat down enough around the globe, especially post Fuku. What part of "we're in this together" do you not understand?

I know you've been lying wait in the bushes since we last danced your particular "Bible Thumpin' Other's" dance routine since March 11 on this forum.

Now, go back to the sinner seeking bushwhacking bushes. Even the Salvation Army feeds the "sinners" it seeks out/draws in.

Do NOT use any of my personal reference responses as your excuse to ambush this thread nor its "suffering with downwind radiation exposure threaders."

You have all the rest of GS to ambush. Your downwind religious radiation spew is Just not wanted here. I don't care if you are a "nice guy" and everybody in your non-virtual life thinks you are the coolest guy or not.

I genuinely suspect everyone and I do mean EVERYONE within a bazillion miles of you --pick a media-- knows you are just itching to post more Holy Writ and beat someone with your leather bound volume. Even Jesus himself didn't behave in this manner, but "waited until he was asked" as his modeled modus operandi.


beefsteak

Hey Beefsteak.... number ONE: You don't tell me what to post and what not to post. If you don't like what I post, ignore it.

I thought your post was along the same line I was thinking and the last thing I was trying to do was "ambush" someone. On the contrary, I feel like you just ambushed me over absolutely nothing. It reminded me of another post IN THIS THREAD, I think... of you crying like a baby when I warned that this FUKU thing was serious and you did not want to hear it. Now you are the full time bandwagon.

Here is the kind of stuff you posted before:


GS-US'ers who are the gleeful, Bible thumpers on here, and you know who you are...

would you cut the gloom and doom scripture quotations, please?

I've read them before you posted them, and yet, I do not see how that is God honoring or loving my neighbor to be neener neenered by bible thumpers.

I'm a believer and a God Fearing one at that. HOWEVER, what I want to see and read and share is that God is in charge, Prayer changes things, and there is work yet to be done, both here and abroad. Motivation, not hell-fire-brimstone will get the work done. Otherwise, why are we still breathing and moving about? Just so we can get whacked on the head by "I told you so" Bible Thumpers?

ENOUGH ALREADY. YOU'RE only swelling your own ego, you're NOT helping anyone else, let alone honoring the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!

Yeah, I know your type. Happy things only. Let's gather around a cozy discussion of how all people are good and how God loves all and we can make this a better world by thinking happy thoughts.


We are at the damned end of this world and you want to think happy thoughts as if they will change the world. Gleeful? I am disgusted that the world's resources have been contaminated. I am disgusted that the political landscape worships the devil. Your happy thoughts don't amount to anything. There is a whole world full of people who choose to be greedy, deceiptful, mockers, hateful, proud, spiteful, and misguided.

In my feeble way I try to point people to the one escape, the one source of life. I am not as good as you and all the good things you are doing. Why don't you tell us what you have accomplished?

Serpo
16th August 2011, 10:27 AM
Uploaded by electrosyl on Aug 14, 2011

Hi all!
This is part 1 of my measurements of the radioactivity falling on the north of GTA (Greater Toronto Area), Canada on August 14th 2011 at 17h55.
Aprox. 1 square meter of smooth surface wiped (glass, solar panels).
Measured with a Eberline HP-260 Pancake Probe and with a Eberline E-140 counter. (Sorry for the crappy video quality, I was using my cell phone camera, I guess it's alright for a first upload...)
I measured 20 000 cpm per square meter of wipe today!!! This is the all time record since I have been taking measurements since March 14th 2011 . Previous record was 10 000cpm (counts per minute).
One panel I always keep clean, but the other panels collected quite a bit of dirt which seems to increase the radioactivity collection ability. The panels were not radioactive before it rained.

The decay rate is typically 33min - 45minutes. This matches Radon decay daughter products being selectively washed out of the atmosphere, (hence the variable decay rate.)

Where is it from? Is it normal? Is it from Fukushima? Is the NWO spiking the clouds with radioactive isotopes for weather modification? Dunno. I all know, is we get cooked virtually every time it rains or snows. The levels are increasing. In the beginning the levels were roughly doubling every 2 weeks. Since the start of the summer the levels stabilized to 3500-5000 cpm per sq. meter every time it rained. But today, yikes! 20 000cpm!

Luckily the decay rate is short and I never detect any residual radiation in the wipes after a day or so. That's what is saving us from being cooked well done.

I've noticed that the worse the storm, the more extreme the weather, the higher the counts, leading me to think that this is done on purpose:

From the reasearch I did, Radon is a heavy gas that is 8 times as heavy as air, so it hugs the ground, aprox. 100 meters or less is where it tends to collect. So if this is ground Radon why does the levels increase if it rains all day?
Wouldn't it wash out of the air after 15 minutes or so and then the levels should drop?
(My area is not known for Radon collecting in basements).

I matched the highest counts with days where the storm clouds were the tallest in the troposphere. This is much too high for Radon to collect.
Is it being pumped there on purpose? Would Radon daughters charge up and seed rain and snowflakes? Dunno?

Is it coming from space? Radon has a very short half life of 8 days, I don't think it would be floating around in space and stay radioactive for billions of years waiting for the earth's gravity to pick it up...

Could it be traveling from Fukushima via the jet stream? It doesn't make sense, as the Radon gas is 8 times as heavy as air.
Could it be traveling from Fukushima via ground winds? Maybe?
Could it be Radon coming from the tailings from the Uranium mines and washing out by the rain? At these levels? Yikes we need to shut down all the mines and cover up the tailings quick!

Has anyone any insight on this? I know what I'm measuring it's real, it's no trick and the radioactivity falling in my area is real... The question is where is it from?

Thanks for your time!




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoSaw5VJxk8&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o50zgfypaW0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDSpCxjZ2D8&feature=related

beefsteak
16th August 2011, 08:59 PM
According to a "discussion link Aug 8-14" on eneNews site, clicking the following link opens a 48meg file where the clickee will find:


Numerous NRC employee emails during this disaster:

http://pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML1117/ML11175A278.pdf

See the nice reactor graphic on page 183 (control rods at bottom as we mentioned):

Hang in there…takes a while to load. It’s 48 sieverts…uh…make that 48 megabytes. >;-> Right click on the link and select Save Target As in IE or the equivalent in the other browsers.And to think Julian Asange fingerprints are NOT all over this.

Talk about a backdoor, and INsight...wow


beefsteak

PatColo
16th August 2011, 09:46 PM
NEW
Yoichi Shimatsu
Japan Update 8.15.11
Free MP3 - Listen
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/audio_icon.gif (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Shimatsu_081511.mp3)

I believe it was last week's rense/shimatsu interview that rense mentioned his site was being censored in japan... maybe one of the more net savvy could go to a japan-based proxy and call up rense.com, and see if this is true?

here's some of what rense is linking to now,

Japan Nuclear Disaster
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/newjapanbar.gif Real Time World Earthquake Monitor (http://www.iris.edu/seismon/) Fukushima Daiichi Plant - LIVE Cam (http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/f1-np/camera/) NEW!
Rain Radiation At 20,000 CPM Per Sq Meter Near Toronto! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDSpCxjZ2D8) - Vid
Neptunium 239 In Soil 38 km From Fukushima Plant (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/neptunium-239-detected-from-soil-in.html)
'World's Safest Cookies' Made By Fukushima School Kids (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/worlds-safest-cookies-baked-by.html)
Radioactive Manure From Rice Straw Eating Cows (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/radioactive-manure-from-cows-that-ate.html)
Economist - Radioactive Materials Harmless If Burned... (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/just-burn-radioactive-materials-then.html)
Almost Half Fukushima Kids Test Positive For Iodine 131 (http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/13_26.html)
Japan School Booklet - Trust Us And You'll Be Just Fine (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/follow-your-governments-instruction-and.html)
Fukushima Can't Drain Swimming Pools - Radioactive Water (http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110813p2a00m0na016000c.html)
Symptoms Of Radiation Poisoning Show In Japan Hospitals (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/decrease-in-white-blood-cells-headache.html)
Tent Construction Over Reactor 1 Building Begins (http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/japan/2011/08/13/313236/Giant-tent.htm)
TEPCO To Miss Decon Target At Fukushima Plant (http://www.globalsecuritynewswire.org/gsn/nw_20110812_8634.php)
Tokyo Prof Blasts Politicians - Makes Him Hero (http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201108120245.html)
Gunderson Warns TVA Not To Finish Bellefonte Nuke Plant (http://vimeo.com/27481567) - Vid
Latest Japan Discovery - Radioactive Firewood (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/now-its-radioactive-firewood-but-its.html)
Fukushima Fallout Found To Exceed Chernobyl Worst (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/nhk-special-mapping-radioactive-fallout.html) - Vid
Melted Fuel Probably No Longer In Reactor 2 Containment (http://rense.com/Fukushima%20To%20Be%20Turned%20In%20Massive%20Huma n%20Research%20Lab)
6.0 Quake Shakes Wrecked Fukushima Nuclear Plant (http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/08/11/idINIndia-58749120110811)
252,422 Bq/kg Of Cesium In Person Outside Exclusion Zone (http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/08/breaking-news-a-citizen-of-minami-soma-shi-turned-out-to-have-had-severe-internal-exposure/)
Melted Fuel Probably No Longer In Reactor 2 Containment (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-krypton-85-and.html)
Fukushima To Be Turned In Massive Human Research Lab (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/fukushima-special-district-for-medical.html)
Radiation 'May' Lead To Decreased Population (ya think?) (http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/radiation-fukushima-may-lead-decreased-population-japan?page=0,1)
Radioactive Beef Served In 296 Japan Schools (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/radioactive-beef-consumed-in-school.html)
More... (http://rense.com/Datapages/japanquakedat.htm)

Serpo
17th August 2011, 12:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ9Wxmwab0M&feature=player_embedded

A Rolling Stone article by Jeff Goodell shares shocking facts about the dangerous state of many nuclear power plants and lack of oversight in America. Is a Fukushima type meltdown inevitable in the United Sates? Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian discuss.

Serpo
17th August 2011, 03:28 AM
The explosive truth behind Fukushima’s meltdown, Independent by David McNeill and Jake Adelstein, August 17, 2011:

Japan insists its nuclear crisis was caused by an unforeseeable combination of tsunami and earthquake. But new evidence suggests its reactors were doomed to fail

[...] The Independent has spoken to several workers at the plant who recite the same story: serious damage, to piping and at least one of the reactors, occurred before the tsunami hit. All have requested anonymity because they are still working at or connected with the stricken plant. [...]

Worker B, a technician in his late 30s who was also on site at the time of the earthquake, recalls: “It felt like the earthquake hit in two waves, the first impact was so intense you could see the building shaking, the pipes buckling, and within minutes I saw pipes bursting. Some fell off the wall…

“Someone yelled that we all needed to evacuate. But I was severely alarmed because as I was leaving I was told and I could see that several pipes had cracked open, including what I believe were cold water supply pipes. That would mean that coolant couldn’t get to the reactor core. If you can’t sufficiently get the coolant to the core, it melts down. You don’t have to have to be a nuclear scientist to figure that out.” As he was heading to his car, he could see that the walls of the reactor one building had started to collapse. “There were holes in them. In the first few minutes, no one was thinking about a tsunami. We were thinking about survival.”

The suspicion that the earthquake caused severe damage to the reactors is strengthened by reports that radiation leaked from the plant minutes later. The Bloomberg news agency has reported that a radiation alarm went off about a mile from the plant at 3.29pm, before the tsunami hit.

Why it matters
The reason for official reluctance to admit that the earthquake did direct structural damage to reactor one is obvious. Katsunobu Onda, author of Tepco: The Dark Empire, explains it this way: A government or industry admission “raises suspicions about the safety of every reactor they run. They are using a number of antiquated reactors that have the same systematic problems, the same wear and tear on the piping.”Earthquakes, of course, are commonplace in Japan.
“This means that assurances from the industry in Japan and overseas that the reactors were robust is now blown apart,” said Shaun Burnie, an independent nuclear waste consultant who works with Greenpeace. “It raises fundamental questions on all reactors in high seismic risk areas.”

http://enenews.com/telegraph-explosive-truth-behind-fukushimas-meltdown-new-evidence-suggests-reactors-doomed-fail

gunDriller
17th August 2011, 06:42 AM
new article about measurements taken 5 months ago -

http://planetsave.com/2011/08/16/first-measurements-of-leakage-from-fukushima-reactor/

"The measurements were taken by a sensitive instrument at the end of the pier at UC San Diego’s Scripps Institution for Oceanography, where Thiemens and his group continuously monitor atmospheric sulphur levels. On March 28, 2011, 15 days after engineers at the Fukushima power plant had begun pumping seawater into the damaged reactors and pools holding the spent fuel rods, Thiemens’ group observed an unprecedented spike in the amount of radioactive sulphur in the air in La Jolla, California.

When the fuel rods at the Fukushima power plant started melting, neutrons and other products started to leak. The seawater absorbed these neutrons, which collided with chloride ions in the salt water which, in turn, knocked a proton out of the nucleus of a chloride atom, transforming the atom into a radioactive form of sulphur.

When the water hit the reactors, the vast majority of the water was vaporized into steam and vented into the atmosphere: along with the radioactive sulphur.

These radioactive sulphur then travelled across the Pacific Ocean on prevailing westerly winds to the Scripps instrument which recorded the levels. The team were then able to use a model based on NOAA’s observations of the atmospheric conditions at the time to determine that the radioactive sulphur had come from Fukushima."

http://c1.planetsave.com/files/2011/08/sulfurpath-1024x802.png

it's not like they're warning the general public or anything -

"Their estimates, which were published in the early online edition of the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, suggest that 400 billion neutrons were released per square meter surface of the Fukushima cooling ponds between March 13 — when engineers started pumping seawater into the cooling ponds — and March 20."

beefsteak
17th August 2011, 06:43 AM
PatColo,
Thank you for the Yoichi Shimatsu link from Rense on the 15th. That was an especially tough listen!

Toward the end of Y.S.'s interview by Rense, he spoke to the new nuclear/power reality Japanese people are directly dealing with on a daily basis. Some of the points he made are:
1) in excess of 1800 ( backed up and listened to that part again to make sure I got that 1800 number correct...) nuclear power plants and with many reactors have NOT been restarted in Japan since 3/11 earthquake.
2) Air conditioning is mostly non-existent there now, and the people are suffering--that goes for all of Japan, not just Fukushima prefecture.
3) Electricity availability is major reduced with trains unreliable, etc. He listed other electrical disaffected events. (This is due to lack of "normal electricity availability" based upon pre-March 11.)
4) Radiation leakage on the East side of Japan is known there from sources NOT Fukushima Dai-ichi which are Not being talked about.

5) He went on to talk about the MOX REACTOR #3 being Opened this fall. That plan is astounding to me. Bury that thing!!!

There is an imminent ouster/change in some govt office where current official (named but I already forgot) before too many more days pass due to his outspoken criticism of the nuke industry and current ongoing negative developments post 3/11.

6) There is an announced "official plan to start burning forests" once the wet season is over over there. These are the self-same dead forests that Yoichi observed and commented upon in recent weeks. He had noted for the listening audience his personal visual observation of the dead trees and other forestating plant life after 6 months following 3/11. The opening of the doors to F#3 a/w/a the governmental burning of forests where they stand, is being timed to take advantage of the shift in trade winds that occurs as their rainy season ends. [Remember that Oct., Nov., Dec., are the months for the West Coasters here in particular to limit exposure to the out of doors, rain, etc.]

7) There are open high-level discussions taking place w/r/t moving the Emperor and his wife TO Osaka now.

8 ) He spoke to the fact he was grateful to be back out of Japan currently, as traveling there presented water and food challenges increasingly more difficult with each [journalistic] venture there.

Yes, this was a difficult listen!! There is more, but those are the "bullet points" that stuck with me overnight. Needless to say, I didn't sleep well last night as this news of the travails there and what's headed here cascaded over my soul in a repetitious tattoo. :( We still have a beloved daughter/family in S. Cali who isn't paying attention --to Dad and Mom-- nor the new reality. And then there are the West Coasters on GS-US and.......


beefsteak

DMac
17th August 2011, 05:34 PM
China Syndrome! Another "OH SHIT!!!" moment headed to us all c/o Fukushima:

Report: Workers say ground under Fukushima plant is cracking and radioactive steam is coming up — Melted core may be moving out of building (http://enenews.com/very-serious-and-alarming-development-workers-say-ground-under-fukushima-plant-is-cracking-and-radioactive-steam-is-coming-through-melted-cores-may-be-moving-out-of-buildings-video)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fimRJocH_90


Interesting site:
http://fukushima-diary.com/

gunDriller
18th August 2011, 06:22 AM
http://peakoil.com/enviroment/update-from-fukushima/

"Huge Quantities of Radiation Are Still Being Released By Fukushima

Radiation expert Dr. Chris Busby says that huge quantities of radiation - 1013 or 10 trillion becquerels per hour – are still being released from Fukushima.

This is down slightly from some of the radiation levels observed in March, which – as I noted in April – exceeded levels pumped out at Chernobyl during the week-long fire.

But given that the Fukushima crisis has continued for months, Fukushima dwarfs Chernobyl in terms of radiation released. See this and this.

Very High Radiation Levels Found in Tokyo

Busby brought sophisticated radiation testing equipment to Japan, and says that the radiation from one sample from Tokyo was higher than existed inside the Chernobyl exclusion zone."

... looks like that's from this URL
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/08/radiation-expert-enormous-quantities-of.html

beefsteak
18th August 2011, 11:25 AM
Gunny, that Busby vid is YouTubed dateline 8/17, so it is very current. Thank you for finding it and posting it here.

As one of the bullet points, Dr. Busby revealed a specific radioactive isotope, Sulfur 35 is documented in California. This isotope comes from neutron radiation of chlorine and is being transported to US from the steam releases. Busby took these readings recently IN CALI.

oh brother!

gunDriller
18th August 2011, 01:45 PM
China Syndrome!

this raises the question - if a nuclear reactor in China melts down and goes through the center of the earth, where does it come out ? Puerto Rico ?

i wonder what's opposite Japan ... what would it be - 180 degrees away in longitude, and with the same latitude number, except negative ?

so Fukushima is at about -
Fukushima, 37°30'N, 140°15'E

so -40 East (or would it be 220 ?), 37 South - where

New Zealand = 37°S 175°E

i think the South Atlantic, or maybe Africa would be diametrically opposite Japan ?


actually i don't think it would melt down more than 100 feet

since it's RIGHT NEXT TO THE F'CKING OCEAN.


near-infinite heat source + near-infinite supply of water + humongous amount of radioactive materials = we've got problems.

i feel it would be just for President Obama's corn flakes to be stored at Fukushima, so that they become radioactive, and he ingests radioactive food - since that is what he doing to the general public.

by not speaking out - and i'm sure he knows - Obama is serving up a big helping of radiation exposure and for many people, cancer.

which is what he did by staying silent about the BP disaster.


i got a deal on cheddar (aged 10 months, pre-Fukushima) a few months ago. but now there's no such deals.

so i find i'm cooking more with Parmesan cheese (also aged 10 months).


i'd like to see Ron Paul asked about Fukushima and the safety of Gulf food.

DMac
18th August 2011, 01:51 PM
this raises the question - if a nuclear reactor in China melts down and goes through the center of the earth, where does it come out ?


actually i don't think it would melt down more than 100 feet

since it's RIGHT NEXT TO THE F'CKING OCEAN.


near-infinite heat source + near-infinite supply of water + humongous amount of radioactive materials = we've got problems.


i'd like to see Ron Paul asked about Fukushima and the safety of Gulf food.


BOOM.

"radiation released so far, 20 times that the hiroshima bomb".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baya8-agPs4

Serpo
18th August 2011, 02:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAHmaEs5cYU&feature=player_embedded

Serpo
18th August 2011, 02:25 PM
Governor ‘very concerned’ as radioactive hydrogen leaks from nuclear power plant in Connecticut, Daily Mail, August 18, 2011:

A radioactive form of hydrogen has leaked from a U.S nuclear plant into soil and groundwater has reached the nearby Connecticut River, according to health officials.

State Department of Health Commissioner Harry Chen said water samples from the shoreline near the Vermont Yankee nuclear plant last month tested positive for small amounts of tritium, a radioactive isotope of hydrogen which has been linked to cancer when ingested in large amounts.

Governor Peter Shumlin wants more wells to pull contaminated water from the ground on the Vermont Yankee site. He says he is ‘very concerned’.

Entergy’s Response

In response to claims of a leak, Vermont Yankee said in a statement: ‘We are aware that the Vermont Department of Health may have detected strontium-90 in some fish from the Connecticut River.

‘There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that Vermont Yankee is the source for the strontium-90. We have 31 monitoring wells on site that are tested regularly. No groundwater sample from any well at Vermont Yankee has ever indicated the presence of strontium-90, or any other isotope other than tritium.

‘We do not know why the Governor would suggest Vermont Yankee is the source, but there is no factual basis for that suggestion.’


http://enenews.com/governor-very-concerned-about-radioactivity-found-shoreline-water-sample

Serpo
18th August 2011, 02:29 PM
this raises the question - if a nuclear reactor in China melts down and goes through the center of the earth, where does it come out ? Puerto Rico ?

i wonder what's opposite Japan ... what would it be - 180 degrees away in longitude, and with the same latitude number, except negative ?

so Fukushima is at about -
Fukushima, 37°30'N, 140°15'E

so -40 East (or would it be 220 ?), 37 South - where

New Zealand = 37°S 175°E

i think the South Atlantic, or maybe Africa would be diametrically opposite Japan ?


actually i don't think it would melt down more than 100 feet

since it's RIGHT NEXT TO THE F'CKING OCEAN.


near-infinite heat source + near-infinite supply of water + humongous amount of radioactive materials = we've got problems.

i feel it would be just for President Obama's corn flakes to be stored at Fukushima, so that they become radioactive, and he ingests radioactive food - since that is what he doing to the general public.

by not speaking out - and i'm sure he knows - Obama is serving up a big helping of radiation exposure and for many people, cancer.

which is what he did by staying silent about the BP disaster.


i got a deal on cheddar (aged 10 months, pre-Fukushima) a few months ago. but now there's no such deals.

so i find i'm cooking more with Parmesan cheese (also aged 10 months).


i'd like to see Ron Paul asked about Fukushima and the safety of Gulf food.

There is a nuclear exclusion zone around New Zealand;D

Many local authorities worldwide have declared themselves "nuclear-free". However, this label is largely symbolic, since most local authorities would be powerless to stop the construction of a nuclear plant if one was planned for the area. New Zealand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand)'s status as a nuclear-free zone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand%27s_nuclear-free_zone) is not symbolic but enshrined in the nation's legislation. New Zealand was the first Western-allied nation to legislate towards a nuclear free zone, effectively renouncing the nuclear deterrent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_deterrent).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear-free_zone#cite_note-0)

http://www.un.org/disarmament/WMD/Nuclear/pdf/NWFZ-postcard-2010.pdf

beefsteak
18th August 2011, 04:47 PM
Guess the Connecticut Yankees in King Nuclear's Court will have to wait at least 20 more years for the next History Channel investigative report on Modern Marvels.

Geeeze!


beefsteak

beefsteak
18th August 2011, 08:13 PM
Being a truthful person as best as I understand science beyond my training, or life experiences before I was old enough to remember, or haven't lived long enough to experience in the first place, I must admit I am wincing even more at the bad news that continually comes our way even after these 5.5 months from 3/11/2011.

This thing about steam making it overhere on the wind currents is just blowing me away. STEAM!!!! The only steam I am familiar with is my breath on a cold morning, the whistling tea kettle on the stove, and the occasional overheating back in the 50s of my 4 door white Ford sedan.

That stuff dissipates about as fast as it is generated, or at the most only billows for a few minutes until it is boiled dry.

Now I'm learning it is making it clear over here, on the winds, and is being generated in amounts beyond comprehension now. Furthermore, we are now "benefitting" from the fissures in the ground which are emitting steam from under the power plants, and not just Fukushima.

Candidly, it was hard to believe Yoichi had it right when he spoke of the steaming fissures in his 8/8/2011 Monday night interview with Rense. I thought he must be mistaken. But to have Dr. Busby state without flinching that the steam has made it across the pond, is just beyond my ability to get my arms around.

Good God have mercy on us all. At the moment I don't care WHO is to blame. Just make it stop. Please! Or else there will be no life left, a scenario too horrible to contemplate, whether saint or sinner.


beefsteak

Joe King
19th August 2011, 12:19 AM
This thing about steam making it overhere on the wind currents is just blowing me away. STEAM!!!! The only steam I am familiar with is my breath on a cold morning, the whistling tea kettle on the stove, and the occasional overheating back in the 50s of my 4 door white Ford sedan.

That stuff dissipates about as fast as it is generated, or at the most only billows for a few minutes until it is boiled dry.

Now I'm learning it is making it clear over here, on the winds, and is being generated in amounts beyond comprehension now. Furthermore, we are now "benefitting" from the fissures in the ground which are emitting steam from under the power plants, and not just Fukushima.I'm pretty sure they're talking about water vapor. The only reason you see steam at all is because of the temperature difference between it and the surrounding drier air.

The water vapor that comes out of a crack in the ground hits cooler air in the atmosphere and micro droplets condense, thereby becoming visible. As the steam expands into the surrounding atmosphere, it cools and turns back into a gas.
Or in other words, dissipates into the surrounding air-mass.
...add in radioactive substances that water can carry, and it will go with it.

The reason it's being "generated" over here, is not because a steam cloud stayed intact as steam and floated over here, but rather because there's that much of it within the air-mass over the area where the tests were done.
ie it's the same air-mass that the steam originally dissipated into, only now it's moved somewhere else.

Glass
19th August 2011, 01:57 AM
I think Nuclear Free must relate to weapons only. I doubt there is a country out there that does not have smoke alarms and radiation therapy.

PatColo
21st August 2011, 05:53 AM
BOOM.

"radiation released so far, 20 times that the hiroshima bomb".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baya8-agPs4

Terrific report from RT/Thom Hartman above, watch if u haven't. I ran into it just now at MCRuppert's site,
RT News: Fukushima Japan - Is the China Syndrome Meltthrough in Progress? (http://www.collapsenet.com/free-resources/collapsenet-public-access/news-alerts/item/2524-rt-news-fukushima-japan-is-the-china-syndrome-meltthrough-in-progress)

where he posts a 10 minute version of the above 8 min RT segment, followed by the 2 min theater trailer for "The China Syndrome" - an especially perfect complement to the RT segment! Here's China Syndrome trailer alone:

The China Syndrome (1979) HD trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PJ-BzXAN1c)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PJ-BzXAN1c

Serpo
21st August 2011, 04:05 PM
Being a truthful person as best as I understand science beyond my training, or life experiences before I was old enough to remember, or haven't lived long enough to experience in the first place, I must admit I am wincing even more at the bad news that continually comes our way even after these 5.5 months from 3/11/2011.

This thing about steam making it overhere on the wind currents is just blowing me away. STEAM!!!! The only steam I am familiar with is my breath on a cold morning, the whistling tea kettle on the stove, and the occasional overheating back in the 50s of my 4 door white Ford sedan.

That stuff dissipates about as fast as it is generated, or at the most only billows for a few minutes until it is boiled dry.

Now I'm learning it is making it clear over here, on the winds, and is being generated in amounts beyond comprehension now. Furthermore, we are now "benefitting" from the fissures in the ground which are emitting steam from under the power plants, and not just Fukushima.

Candidly, it was hard to believe Yoichi had it right when he spoke of the steaming fissures in his 8/8/2011 Monday night interview with Rense. I thought he must be mistaken. But to have Dr. Busby state without flinching that the steam has made it across the pond, is just beyond my ability to get my arms around.

Good God have mercy on us all. At the moment I don't care WHO is to blame. Just make it stop. Please! Or else there will be no life left, a scenario too horrible to contemplate, whether saint or sinner.


beefsteak
The main thing is not to get steamed up about it.....sorry couldnt help myself..........time to MOVE to the Southern Hemisphere...............

Serpo
21st August 2011, 04:08 PM
I think Nuclear Free must relate to weapons only. I doubt there is a country out there that does not have smoke alarms and radiation therapy.
Weapons ,bombs and also nuclear powered vessels..................the reason NZ went nuc free was the information received by NZ was that in a nuclear war America would send its nuc armed ships around the world to spread the target.Guess what NZ said stuff that,and the rest is history.

Serpo
23rd August 2011, 03:28 AM
Cant see any end to this.........

27,000 Bq/kg cesium in kindergarten near west coast of Japan — 200+ km from meltdowns
August 22nd, 2011 at 10:18 PM

Radioactive Sludge in Kindergartens in Tokamachi City, Niigata, EX-SKF, August 21, …Read More

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Nuclear engineer: NRC now says reactors and containments have breached and released plutonium off-site — “Much worse” than if from spent fuel pools (VIDEO)
August 22nd, 2011 at 08:15 PM

New Data Supports Previous Fairewinds Analysis, as Contamination Spreads in Japan …Read More

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‘Scientists don’t know why’: Cesium-137 in soil near Chernobyl has half-life of 180 to 320 years, not 30 years as is typical
August 22nd, 2011 at 07:38 PM

“Ecological Half Life” of Cesium-137 May Be 180 to 320 Years?, …Read More

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Japanese Journalist: “It’s like killing our own children, I cannot allow it to happen” — Teachers forcing students to eat food that parents fear is contaminated with radiation (VIDEO)
August 22nd, 2011 at 08:30 AM

福島の子供を守れ, LeChatBleuDansLaNuit, August 21, 2011:

At 10:45 in – Takashi Hirose …Read More

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Japan gov’t to finally admit indefinite forced depopulation of large zones around Fukushima plant
August 22nd, 2011 at 05:34 AM

Large Zone Near Japanese Reactors to Be Off Limits, New York …Read More

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Discussion Thread for August 22 – 28, 2011
August 22nd, 2011 at 03:45 AM

Thread Guidelines

Once a week a Discussion Thread will be posted …Read More

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Report: Smoke seen rising from Fukushima Daini after quake but before tsunami
August 21st, 2011 at 08:50 AM

Fukushima II (Not I) Nuke Plant Eyewitness Account on March 11, …Read More

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Report: St. Louis rain sample shows radiation dose on August 20 almost triple previous high reading (VIDEO)
August 21st, 2011 at 06:32 AM

178 X Background Radiation in Saint Louis Rain 8/20/11, potrblog, August …Read More

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Tokyo: Radioactive cesium detected in 53 of 56 samples — Average of 30,032 Bq/m², near Chernobyl’s “Radiation Protection Area” levels
August 20th, 2011 at 10:50 AM

TOKYO METROPOLITAN SOIL TESTING, Radiation Defense Project:

Chernobyl Zoning

1,480,000 Bq/㎡~ …Read More

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Tokyo-area soil testing finds radioactivity up to Chernobyl relocation levels — 919,000 Bq/m² (MAP)
August 20th, 2011 at 09:23 AM

Tokyo Metropolitan Soil Testing Map, Radiation Defense Project:

Red dot: July …Read More

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229 millisieverts/year of cumulative radiation in town outside exclusion zone — Exposure limit for ordinary people is 1 millisievert/year
August 20th, 2011 at 06:17 AM

Map shows spot with high level of radiation near Fukushima plant, …Read More

71 comments
More from Canada: Gov’t researchers plan to test for radiation in Yukon’s local food supply, caribou — An attempt to answer questions by citizens
August 19th, 2011 at 08:30 PM

Yukon to test for radiation in caribou herd, CBC News, August …Read More

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Canadian gov’t now plans to start radiation testing on fish off B.C. coast
August 19th, 2011 at 06:34 PM

West Coast fish to be tested for Fukushima radiation, CBC News, …Read More

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Doctor for Fukushima workers: When going into danger areas they don’t use radiation meters — It’s hiding amount of exposure — “Real radiation count is much higher, that’s a fact” (VIDEO)
August 19th, 2011 at 03:55 PM

Fukushima Safety Fears , Channel 4 News (UK), August 18, 2011:


http://enenews.com/

gunDriller
23rd August 2011, 01:06 PM
Weapons ,bombs and also nuclear powered vessels..................the reason NZ went nuc free was the information received by NZ was that in a nuclear war America would send its nuc armed ships around the world to spread the target.Guess what NZ said stuff that,and the rest is history.

if only we had stuck with silver powered vessels like the Vikings had ! :-)

that's where the sailors row the boat using oars and the sailors are paid IN SILVER !

PatColo
24th August 2011, 01:01 AM
Gunderson:
New Data Supports Previous Fairewinds Analysis, as Contamination Spreads in Japan and Worldwide (http://vimeo.com/28014740)
by Fairewinds Associates (http://vimeo.com/user6415562) http://a.vimeocdn.com/images/plus_icon.gif (http://vimeo.com/user6415562)
2 days ago


http://vimeo.com/28014740

Newly released neutron data from three University of California San Diego scientists confirms Fairewinds' April analysis that the nuclear core at Fukushima Daiichi turned on and off after TEPCO claimed its reactors had been shutdown. This periodic nuclear chain reaction (inadvertent criticality) continued to contaminate the surrounding environment and upper atmosphere with large doses of radioactivity.

In a second area of concern, Fairewinds disagrees the NRC's latest report claiming that all Fukushima spent fuel pools had no problems following the earthquake. In a new revelation, the NRC claims that the plutonium found more than 1 mile offsite actually came from inside the nuclear reactors. If such a statement were true, it indicates that the nuclear power plant containments failed and were breached with debris landing far from the power plants themselves. Such a failure of the containment system certainly necessitates a complete review of all US reactor containment design and industry assurances that containments will hold in radioactivity in the event of a nuclear accident. The evidence Fairewinds reviewed to date continues to support its April analysis that the detonation in the Unit 3 Spent Fuel pool was the cause of plutonium found off site.

Third, the burning of radioactive materials (building materials, trees, lawn grass, rice straw) by the Japanese government will cause radioactive Cesium to spread even further into areas within Japan that have been previously clean, and across the Pacific Ocean to North America.

And finally, the Japanese government has yet to grasp the severity of the contamination within Japan, and therefore has not developed a coherent plan mitigate the accident and remediate the environment. Without a cohesive plan to deal with this ongoing problem of large scale radioactive contamination, the radioactivity will continue to spread throughout Japan and around the globe further exacerbating the problem and raising costs astronomically.

PatColo
24th August 2011, 01:25 AM
Latest Shimatsu interview, followed by the current fukushima stories @ Rense,

Japan Nuclear Disaster
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/newjapanbar.gif NEW
Yoichi Shimatsu
Japan Update 8.22.11
Free MP3 - Listen
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/audio_icon.gif (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Shimatsu_082211.mp3)

Real Time World Earthquake Monitor (http://www.iris.edu/seismon/)
Fukushima Daiichi Plant - LIVE Cam (http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/f1-np/camera/) NEW!
Oz TV - Fukushima Recovery To Take Centuries (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DcOol3KJscc#%21)
Gunderson - Japan Burning Spews Deadly Radiation Over US' (http://vimeo.com/28014740)
Radiation Leak Of 3 Sieverts Hr Stop Water Decon Effort (http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110823p2a00m0na019000c.html)
Japan Scientists Try To Breed Radiation Resistant Rice (http://gold-silver.us/forum/htt.p://www.telegraph.c.o.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8717373/Japanese-scientists-attempt-to-breed-radiation-resistant-rice.html)
27,000 Bq/kg Found At Kindergarten 205 Miles From Plant (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/radioactive-sludge-in-kindergartens-in.html)
Many Fukushima Will Never Go Home (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/22/japan-nuclear-disaster-radiation-levels)
Gunderson - Fukishima Radiation Spreads In Japan, Worldwide (http://vimeo.com/28014740) - Vid
Cesium 137 Environmental Half-Life May Be 180-320 Years! (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/ecological-half-life-of-cesium-137-may.html)
St Louis Background Radiation 178 Times Normal! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJCRmaIDCQE) - Vid
Grim 'Never Give Up' Sign At 10 M/s Hr Fukushima Spot (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/never-give-up-fukushima-sign-right-next.html)
Nearly 4,000 Radioactive (?) Cows Shipped From Fukushima (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/4000-potentially-radioactive-cows.html)
'Severely-Contaminated' Radioactive Areas Found In Tokyo (http://www.radiationdefense.jp/en/investigation)
508 Cumulative Millisieverts 3 km From Plant - ONE M/s Is OK (http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110820p2g00m0dm013000c.html)
Radioactive Fukushima Cows, Pigs Sold To Farmers All Over Japan (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/radioactive-manure-from-cows-bought.html)
Canada To Test West Coast Fish For Radiation (http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/08/19/bc-salmon-radiation-testing.html)
Yukon To Test For Radiation In Caribou Herd (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/story/2011/08/19/yukon-radiation-test.html)
Dr. Caldicott Radiation Warning Prompts Man To Leave BC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT6ZCxzW8K4) - Vid
'The Holes And Cracks In The Ground Are Terrifying' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ml5gKbStfY&feature=youtu.be) - Vid
6.8 Quake Near Fukushima - No Damages Reported (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/9804927)
Fukushima Nuke Workers Hide Jobs From Families (http://blogs.channel4.com/world-news-blog/is-any-job-worth-this-risk-i-spoke-to-fukushima-clear-up-workers/17790)
High Cesium Beef NOT Fed Radioactive Rice Straw (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/radioactive-beef-conundrum-high-level.html)
Japan Radiation - Cicadas...Quiet, Deformed And Dead (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/another-baseless-rumor-cicadas-in-japan.html)
Japan Using Fukushima People As Guinnea Pigs (http://youtu.be/rr2PmjdpLqM) - Vid
High Radiation Found Next To Children's Pool (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/high-radiation-right-next-to-childrens.html) - Vid
6.5 Quake Near Wrecked Fukushisma Nuke Plant (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqinthenews/2011/usc0005gmg/)
Fukushima Plant Releasing 10 Trillion Becquerels/hr (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNzDg4O9dkw) - Vid
A Stunning 412 Sieverts/hr In Reactor 1 Drywell (http://atmc.jp/plant/rad/?n=1)
Japan To Lift Ban On Fukushima Beef (good luck) (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/japanese-government-will-lift-shipping.html)
Calls For National Radiation Food, Air, Water Testing (http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/08/201181665921711896.html)
Fukushima - Is This The China Syndrome? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baya8-agPs4)
How Japan Govt Failed The People Of Fukushima (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/wall-street-journal-how-japanese.html) - Vid
US Pondered Evacuating 90,000 From Tokyo (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/us-government-considered-evacuation-of.html)
Radioactive Sanitary Napkins Next? (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/now-radioactive-sanitary-napkins.html)
1 Millisievert/hr Radiation From A Truck In Iwaki City? (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/1-millisieverthour-radiation-from-truck.html)
Melted Cores In The Ground? Radioactive Steam Reported (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fimRJocH_90) - Vid
More... (http://rense.com/Datapages/japanquakedat.htm)

PatColo
24th August 2011, 03:56 AM
Tokyo soil cesium radiation nearly TWICE Chernobyl Dead Zone Limit ~ link (http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/08/22/tokyo-soil-cesium-radiation-chernobyl-dead-zone-limit-919100-bqsq-meter-detected-63141/) ~ We are losing Tokyo, one of the largest cities on Earth! Stirling
Radiation soil tests from 150 sites in the Tokyo metropolitan area finds Cesium radiation up to levels limits nearly twice the Chernobyl dead zone evacuation limit of 500,000 Bq/Sq meter.



Interesting how in that latest Shimatsu/Rense interview above, they start discussing how reality is slowly setting in for many Japanese and they're interested in moving. But of course the real estate market there has been "nuked" - and Shimatsu alleged that in the 1990s the value of Tokyo real estate exceeded the value of all other real estate in the world combined... sounds a bit implausible, but I do recall from the early '90s Tokyo real estate being a sick bubble.

How does that bode for BC/US-West real estate which is and will continue to get fukushima radiation, regardless of the guv/ZSM blackout? Rense noted that with winter the jet stream lowers from hitting more Canada, to coming in over the US.

Here's an '06 article from Charles Hugh Smith,


What We Can Learn from Japan's 15-Year Decline in Real Estate (http://www.oftwominds.com/blogoct06/japan-bubble.html) (October 31, 2006)


A Halloween Scary Story...with Zombies...


Frequent contributor Michael Goodfellow suggested I provide some data about Japan's real estate bubble and bust--and just in time for Holloween, here we have some truly frightening charts:

http://www.oftwominds.com/blog-photos/japan-bust1a.jpg

Here we see that Japan experienced a full retrace to the pre-bubble value of real estate. This is typical of valuation bubbles. If the U.S. housing bubble follows this pattern (and why should it deviate from a pattern which has held for hundreds of years, going back to the Tulip Craze in Holland?), then the house that sold for $150,000 in the S.F. Bay Area in 1995 and went for $600,000 in 2005 will eventually retrace to being worth $150,000.

http://www.oftwominds.com/blog-photos/japan-bust2a.jpg

Just for context, here is a chart which shows that the export-dependent Japanese economy actually rose even as the stock and real estate markets were plummeting. To hope that the import-dependent U.S. economy will fare as well would at first glance appear unlikely. Note that that the stock market bubble topped before the real estate bubble, but both tanked, slowly and painfully, for a decade or more. (Note that while the two charts show somewhat different timeframes for the re-trace, the end result is the same.)

Here we have a summary from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_asset_price_bubble) on the Japanese real estate bubble and its aftermath:
Prices were highest in Tokyo's Ginza district in 1989, with some fetching over US$1.5 million per square meter ($139,000 per square foot), and only slightly less in other areas of Tokyo. By 2004, prime "A" property in Tokyo's financial districts were less than 1/100th of their peak, and Tokyo's residential homes were 1/10th of their peak, but still managed to be listed as the most expensive real estate in the world. Some US$20 trillion (1999 dollars) was wiped out with the combined collapse of the real estate market and the Tokyo stock market.

The easily obtainable credit that had helped create and engorge the real estate bubble continued to be a problem for several years to come, and as late as 1997, banks were still making loans that had a low guarantee of being repaid. Correcting the credit problem became even more difficult as the government began to subsidize failing banks and businesses, creating many "zombie businesses." The key take-away from the charts and summary is this: the Japanese bubble was not in housing, it was in lending. The same is true of the U.S. bubble which is just beginning its deflation. If all mortgages had continued to require 20% down in cash and well-documented sources of income, the bubble would have run out of buyers long ago.

How long will it take for the U.S. property bubble to fully deflate? Good question. Japan's property values outside Tokyo and a few other major cities continue to decline fully 15 years after the bubble top. Will the U.S. also suffer a 15-year decline? The answer is less financial than political; Japan's Diet (Federal Legislature) is heavily slanted toward sparsely populated rural districts, and the intertwined nature of business and government is quite different from the U.S. These and other factors (such as the great power of the government financial bureaucracies and the cultural disinclination to mar a facade of normalcy) hindered Japan's ability to grapple honestly with the vast deflation of property and equity assets which left their financial system crippled with non-performing, never-to-be-repaid loans.

http://www.oftwominds.com/blog-photos/Japan-debt-tax.gif

Hopefully, the U.S. citizenry will refuse to let the powers that be stand aside and watch numbly as the bubble deflates. If some action akin to the cleanup of the Savings and Loan fiasco of the early 90s (another mess needlessly brought on by no oversight and loose lending standards) were instigated, perhaps the U.S. decline could be shortened to a mere six years or so from Japan's 15-year "Lost Decade."

If, however, the government agencies responsible for overseeing financial institutions and lenders allow the lenders to try to re-inflate the bubble via "zombie" loans to "zombie" borrowers, then the pain will only be lengthened and exacerbated--as Japan has so ably shown. As the chart above reveals, government bail-outs have created such a massive public debt that fully 70% of Japan's tax revenues are devoted to paying interest on the public debt. If that doesn't frighten you, then you may already be a zombie.

But all that remains to be seen, for the hard years are still ahead.

Serpo
25th August 2011, 02:44 PM
"Safe" radiation levels after Japan’s Fukushima nuclear disaster challenged by citizens


Comments (1)
By Alex Roslin, August 25, 2011


Gordon Edwards, president of the Canadian Coalition for Nuclear Responsibility, says if “safe” levels of radiation are still causing cancers, then he questions why the nuclear industry uses this terminology.

After Japan’s Fukushima nuclear disaster, John Disney couldn’t help but worry. He was acting band manager of the Old Massett Village Council on the north tip of Graham Island in Haida Gwaii.

Canadian health officials were saying the radioactive fallout posed no health risk to Canadians. But Disney wasn’t convinced.

He sent samples of water, goat’s milk, and seaweed to a lab in Saskatoon for tests. The lab found 1.1 becquerels per litre of radioactive iodine in rainwater collected on March 28.

The lab told him the Canadian ceiling for iodine-131 in drinking water is six becquerels per litre. The rainwater wasn’t at the limit yet, but the sudden rise—over previously undetectable levels—worried Disney. He put out an alert to his community of 700, giving the numbers and advising residents to avoid drinking rainwater.

“It [the iodine level] was coming up fast, and I didn’t know where it was going,” he said by cellphone from Old Massett (also known as Haida Village). “Quite a lot of people around here are on rainwater [drinking] systems.”

The responses from Health Canada and Environment Canada were scathing. “They said I didn’t know what I was doing and that there was nothing to worry about. I’ve got half the world telling me I’m an idiot,” Disney said.

Health Canada gave the Georgia Straight the same kind of assurance. “Canadians are safe,” spokesman Stéphane Shank said in a phone interview. Radiation detected in Canada was “within the natural background fluctuations”.

In fact, the iodine-131 levels at Old Massett tested above background until early May. Background for iodine-131 is around zero because it doesn’t occur naturally.

And even though the level never exceeded the Canadian ceiling, that didn’t necessarily mean it was safe. In fact, Japan’s five-month-old nuclear crisis has focused attention on a dirty secret of the nuclear industry: its version of “safe” isn’t necessarily the public’s.

The Canadian ceiling for radiation is set at a level that causes 7.3 cancers per million people each year, according to Health Canada’s website—or 511 lifetime cancers over 70 years of exposure per million people. Spread over 33 million Canadians, that’s 17,000 lifetime cancers. (About half are fatal.)

“If it’s causing cancer, it’s not safe,” said Gordon Edwards, president of the Canadian Coalition for Nuclear Responsibility, in a phone interview from Montreal.

What’s more, Canada’s radiation ceiling is 50 to 500 times more permissive than Health Canada guidelines for carcinogenic chemicals. Those generally are restricted to a level that causes a maximum of one to 10 lifetime cancers per million people.

“The nuclear industry has taken upon itself the ability to set its own standards independent of how we get them for other carcinogens,” Edwards said.

In April, the Japanese government raised its maximum limit for children from one to 20 millisieverts per year, a level that leads to 2,270 cancers annually per million people (or 160,000 lifetime cancers per million), according to data in a landmark 2006 U.S. National Academy of Sciences report on radiation cancer risk. A massive outcry later forced the government to reverse the move.

About a fifth of the 1,600 schools in Fukushima prefecture were exposed to at least 20 milliseiverts of radiation this year, according to a Bloomberg story in July.

Back in Old Massett, Disney also worries about the salmon. He was a commercial salmon fisherman for 30 years and is now trying to get funding to do radiation tests on sockeye, which he says often migrate into Japanese waters.

The Canadian Food Inspection Agency is now doing radiation tests on salmon caught in B.C. coastal waters, which will end in September. But Disney says it’s also important to test sockeye that return in 2012 and 2013, which are at higher risk of having travelled near Japan.

The CFIA stopped testing Japanese food imports in July. It requires only that importers bringing in food from the Fukushima area document its “safety”. The agency has no plans to test imported Pacific seafood or seafood caught near Japan by Canadian companies.

Fish and crustaceans caught in the vicinity of Fukushima in late March had 10,000 times the “safe” level of radiation, according to a May study in the journal Environmental Science & Technology. Macroalgae had 19,000 times the safe level.

Those levels were measured before the Japanese utility that runs the crippled nuclear plant dumped 11,000 tonnes of radioactive water into the Pacific in April and additional leaks released several hundred tonnes more.

And it turns out Disney was right to be cautious about his rainwater. Some of the highest iodine-131 levels in North America after Fukushima were detected in rainwater in Burnaby—6.9 becquerels per litre on average over 12 days in late March (again, well above background levels).

It was less than the Canadian ceiling for drinking water (which is six becquerels per litre consumed at a rate of two litres daily for 365 days). But it doubled the more stringent ceiling of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

In Virginia, state officials issued a don’t-drink-rainwater advisory in late March after iodine-131 levels in rain in nearby states reached about a third of the level seen in Burnaby. Yet, B.C. health officials insist the Burnaby rainwater was safe. “The dose would have been too small to have any biologically measurable impact—even if people drink rainwater, which they don’t,” said B.C. provincial health officer Perry Kendall in an email exchange with the Straight.

That might come as a surprise to B.C.’s growing rainwater-harvesting community. Edwards is incredulous: “That’s the kind of statement you could expect from a nuclear promoter, not a public-health agency. The responsible attitude is to say there’s no reason to panic, but that no amount of radiation is safe.”

http://straight.com/article-436801/vancouver/safe-radiation-levels-challenged-citizens

Serpo
27th August 2011, 07:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUP9dYgCnGg&feature=related

Serpo
27th August 2011, 07:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5Ecn1WFRWQ

Serpo
29th August 2011, 10:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2dghS1otAw&feature=player_embedded

beefsteak
29th August 2011, 11:00 AM
Oh, wow! Speechless here.

beefsteak
29th August 2011, 11:13 PM
A visual reminder here:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Alfa_beta_gamma_radiation_penetration.svg/800px-Alfa_beta_gamma_radiation_penetration.svg.png

This figure illustrates the relative abilities of three different types of ionizing radiation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation) to penetrate solid matter. Alpha particles (α) are stopped by a sheet of paper while beta particles (β) are stopped by an aluminum plate. Gamma radiation (γ) is dampened when it penetrates matterThe radioactive Iodine can be stopped by paper. TEPCO is getting ready to open the doors to reactor #3 sometime in the next 30 days. Nuclides will be pouring across the Pacific.

Check to make sure you've made good use of your time this summer and purchased the supply of paper mouth/nose face masks you told yourself you should get for you and your loved ones so you can at least reduce the inhalation of radioactive Iodine into lung tissue as "fuel fleas." Especially important for those under, what is it, 35 years of age?

Have you also laid in store any of those disposable rain ponchos which will fit into purse or pocket? Still time, but not much, to make a difference in your life and that of your family before Fuku#3 reactor is opened.

Speaking of radiation, microwaves can be prevented from doing their deadly calcium cell flooding best if one would place metal screen/grid in front of their microwave source.

Dr. Deagle, MD and Rense talked about it this evening. Link is posted elsewhere here on GS. And it's also on JRense's 8/29 YouTube subscription channel.

PG&E put a smart meter on Dr. D's home without his knowledge nor consent. He's suing vis a vis a class action suit, and as an EMF expert, he's expecting to carry some serious water when he gets into the court room.


beefsteak

gunDriller
30th August 2011, 06:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2dghS1otAw&feature=player_embedded

i have witnessed similar practices in the US - in the LASIK industry, in terms of the destruction of medical records that document bad outcomes.

a friend of mine had a devastating outcome - extreme pain in both eyes 24/7 post-op. her surgery was part of a clinical trial. i have copies of her records, including the clinical trial forms.

we called the university that co-sponsored the trial. they said, "we have no record of this patient's participation in the trial." in other words, the "doctor" removed the patient's record from the clinical trial, once it became apparent that she had a bad outcome.

i made sure that everyone with an email address at the university heard about it ... about 700 people. no one was willing to stand up to the LASIK surgeon - LASIK is a profit center for the university.


that was not the only time her medical records were destroyed - in another case, her eyes were photographed using a special microscope by a doctor on the East Coast. that doctor refused to show her the images and said "everything his fine".

we found another of those microscopes at a medical center in Oregon. another friend video-taped that exam. in the video, the examining doctor is beside himself, "i've never seen so much metal debris embedded in a human eye".


in tracking it down, i called the East Coast company that loaned the special microscope to that doctor on the East Coast. i spoke to the manager that received the equipment back from the East Coast "doctor". the manager said that when he got the machine back, all medical records had been deleted from the microscope's computer.

all of this was back in 1999-2002. it's not like American medicine has grown a conscience since then.


when this same "ethic" is applied to dealing with Fukushima radiation - watch out.

gunDriller
31st August 2011, 06:56 AM
i can't help but wonder - i donated some old CRT's to the electronic recycling place - but CRT's have leaded glass in them, i think.

maybe if they were re-melted into leaded glass bricks, there might be a market ?

"Color and monochrome CRTs may contain toxic substances, such as cadmium, in the phosphors.[47][48][49] The rear glass tube of modern CRTs may be made from leaded glass, which represent an environmental hazard if disposed of improperly.[50] By the time personal computers were produced, glass in the front panel (the viewable portion of the CRT) used barium rather than lead, though the rear of the CRT was still produced from leaded glass. Monochrome CRTs typically do not contain enough leaded glass to fail EPA tests"

PatColo
1st September 2011, 08:36 AM
Latest Shimatsu interview, followed by the current fukushima stories @ Rense,

Japan Nuclear Disaster
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/newjapanbar.gif
NEW
Yoichi Shimatsu
Japan Update 8.29.11
Free MP3 - Listen
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/audio_icon.gif (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Shimatsu_082911.mp3)

Real Time World Earthquake Monitor (http://www.iris.edu/seismon/)
Fukushima Daiichi Plant - LIVE Cam (http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/f1-np/camera/) NEW!
Water Entombment For Fukushima 1 Back On Table (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-water-entombment.html)
14 Fault Lines Found Near Japan Nuclear Plants (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/08/31/122735/fourteen-fault-lines-found-near.html)
Japan Burning Pouring Radiation High Into Atmosphere (http://www.salem-news.com/articles/august292011/japan-radiation-jn.php)
Fukushima Workers Showered In VERY 'Hot' Water (http://enenews.com/fukushima-workers-showered-with-highly-radioactive-water)
Japan Radiation - Something's Rotten In Yokohama (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/radiation-in-japan-somethings-rotten-in.html)
Japan Booklet Tells People To Decontaminate Selves (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/japans-idea-of-decontamination-give.html)
Sunflowers Used On Radiation In Fukushima, Japan (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/good-news/sunflowers-battle-radiation-fukushima-japan-162924686.html)
34 Fukushima Soil Spots Top Chernobyl Forced Evacuation (http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/20110830dy05.htm)
Insane Radioactive Burning Covering Japan With Cesium (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110829a5.html)
Massive Radioactivity In Widening Areas Of Japan (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904332804576540131142824362.html)
40 Yr Old Fukushima Worker Dies After One Week (http://jen.jiji.com/jc/eng?g=eco&k=2011083000421)
76 TRILLION Beq Of Plutonium 239 Released From Fukushima (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/nisa-neptunium-239-in-august-29-press.html)
Fukushima Plant Releasing 10 Trillion Becquerels/hr (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNzDg4O9dkw) - Vid
Radiation In Fukushima School Stairs 70x Over Safe Limit (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/29/japan-schools-greenpeace-idUSL4E7JQ1U520110829)
Soil Radiation Around Fukushima Above Chernobyl Dead Zone (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/soil-contamination-in-34-locations-in.html)
Scientists Can't Decide What To Do With Fukushima (http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110828p2a00m0na002000c.html)
Japan To BURN Everything Radioactive - Worldwide Death (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/japans-ministry-of-environment-to-allow.html)
Gunderson - Japan To Burn All Radioactive Materials - US Will Get It (http://vimeo.com/28014740) - Vid
Japan To BURN Radioactive Debris - Radiation Will Come To US (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/radiation-in-japan-practically-any.html)
Gunderson - NRC Fukusima Fuel Pool Lies Exposed (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/how-reactor-4-at-fukushima-i-nuke-plant.html) - Vid
TEPCO Explains How Fukushima Reactor 4 Exploded (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/how-reactor-4-at-fukushima-i-nuke-plant.html)
Fukushima Area Uninhabitable For 20 Years (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2030883/Japan-warns-nuclear-disaster-area-uninhabitable-20-years.html)
Japan Firm Orders 'Energy Saving' Haircuts For 2700 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2030793/Japanese-construction-company-orders-2-700-staff-energy-saving-haircuts.html)
Radioactive Early Harvest Rice In Two Prefectures (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/radioactive-rice-in-chiba-and-ibaraki.html)
Radioactive Rice Hay Story Still Unresolved (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/ot-radioactive-rice-hay-story-still.html)
Japan OKs $900k To Police Fukushima Information (http://www.activistpost.com/2011/08/japanese-government-approves-over.html)
Rage Over Govt Monitoring EVERY Fukushima Post (http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201108116035)
Fukushima Cesium Leaks 'Equal 168 Hiroshimas' (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8722400/Fukushima-caesium-leaks-equal-168-Hiroshimas.html)
More... (http://rense.com/Datapages/japanquakedat.htm)

Serpo
1st September 2011, 03:14 PM
Simulation Map of Cesium-137 Deposition Across the Pacific by CEREA Shows Contamination in US Greater Than That of Western Japan


http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/map-of-cesium-137-deposition-across.html

gunDriller
2nd September 2011, 05:35 PM
i emailed Safeway & Tillamook got some info about Tillamook Cheddar Cheese.

the 2 pound blocks of Medium Cheddar.

the date code is 10 months after manufacture, and they're aged 60 days.

right now Safeway has them with a "Use By" date code of May 3, 2012.

so those were manufactured May 3, 2011 - not quite 2 months after Fukushima.


the only way i know to get guaranteed Fukushima free cheese now, is to buy Parmesan that's been aged 10 months.

the Tillamook cheddar i think is probably safe. i think it will take some time to widely saturate the dairy manufacturing facilities with Fukushima-laden 'food'.

admittedly, it's sort of hit or miss (no guarantees - unless you learn to use a Geiger-type counter to measure food radiation exposure.)


anyway, just a data-point i thought i'd share.

i stand at Safeway and wonder - they have regular cheap cheddar for $5 for 2 pounds, on sale. they have the Tillamook cheddar, for $7, on sale. which one to get ? i guess i'll email Safeway and get some info about their Cheap Cheddar.

Serpo
3rd September 2011, 03:10 AM
Concerns over Falls road fill radiation

Updated: Wednesday, 31 Aug 2011, 5:37 PM EDT
Published : Wednesday, 31 Aug 2011, 5:37 PM EDT


Luke Moretti (http://www.wivb.com/dpp/about_us/personalities/Luke_Moretti_Biography)
Posted by: Eli George

NIAGARA FALLS, N.Y. (WIVB) - Tip calls and e-mails to our newsroom spawned a probe into contaminated soil in Niagara County.
Now, a state lawmaker is calling for an investigation, and one expert in radioactive waste management is expressing concern. The controversy involves radioactive road fill in Niagara Falls and there are still lots of questions.
Contractor David Pfeiffer, who owns Man O' Trees Contracting, dropped a bombshell on the reconstruction of Lewiston Road in Niagara Falls.
"The truth is there is a health hazard on that project and it's not being properly cleaned up," said Pfeiffer.
He tells News 4 that he's learned that radiation levels, in some spots, are 10 times higher than the normal background levels for that area.
Pfeiffer said, "We were told not to chase the radiation, although it is on all of the people's lawns."
Pfeiffer says his workers have been told to stick to the road job, which is behind schedule and over-budget by millions of dollars already.
Niagara Falls Mayor Paul Dyster said, "The project is not a remedial project for removing radioactive materials wherever they're found. It's a road construction project in which radioactive materials that are under the road are being removed, and so there are limits to the bounds of the project."
Dr. Marvin Resnikoff said, "When you have levels that are 10 times greater and more, then yes, I'm very concerned about that aspect of it."
Dr. Resnikoff is an international consultant with of Radioactive Waste Management Associates who's familiar with the Niagara Falls situation.
"In my opinion, that material should be taken out now. This material is going to stay radioactive essentially forever. Roads are going to come and go. You know, kicking the can down the road is not going to solve the problem," said Dr. Resnikoff.
Now, one state lawmaker says there should be an independent investigation.
Senator George Maziarz said, "Somebody is not telling the truth. Let's find out who it is. I don't want to see an unsafe condition, a hazardous condition covered up. That is not in anyone's best interest."
A state Health Department spokesperson tells News 4 that radiation monitoring methods used by the agency have not detected a health risk to workers and that the radioactive slag in question is not in a form that can be breathed in or swallowed.
Copyright WIVB.com


http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/niagara/Concerns-over-Falls-road-fill-radiation

Serpo
3rd September 2011, 03:11 AM
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/radioactive-materials-dispersion-model.html

http://enenews.com/bloomberg-crack-found-at-north-anna-containment-building-press-not-taken-into-reactor-containment-structure-or-building-housing-spent-fuel-pool

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia-pacific/major-typhoon-headed-to-japan-worries-grow-about-heavy-rainfalls-in-disaster-zone/2011/09/02/gIQAtEohvJ_story.html

beefsteak
3rd September 2011, 12:40 PM
Concerns over Falls road fill radiation

...... and that the radioactive slag in question is not in a form that can be breathed in or swallowed.
Copyright WIVB.com


http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/niagara/Concerns-over-Falls-road-fill-radiation

Just for the records, Serpo,
A LOT of slag is hygroscopic to the max. That hygroscopic nature is what breaks the slag down into ingestible and inhalable RADIOACTIVE particles! The Health Dept spokesperson is just blathering about something known by the innies, but not the sheeple by utilizing SPIN -- the term "slag" -- to indicate an affiliation with a customary glass entombment in barrels protocol formally used in storage of radioactive wastes.

Disgusting.

If it isn't inhaleable and ingestable, then why not leave it buried under the road now? Something grabbed their attention, and I'm sure it wasn't the "shovel ready" jobs BS mantra the Niagra Falls PTB are mouthing.


beefsteak

beefsteak
3rd September 2011, 12:58 PM
Bloomberg: Crack in reactor containment structure at quake-hit Virginia nuke plant — Press tour not taken to see in containment or spent fuel pool building


September 2nd, 2011 at 10:10 PM

Serpo,
Thanks for this link.

Ayup, only cosmetic...nothing to see hear...the stucco is just cracked and we can use plaster of paris to spackle it, so it's just like new.

Oh, and no cameras allowed so you can't peek at the spent fuel pool.

What BS!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks again, Serpo!


beefsteak

gunDriller
4th September 2011, 01:43 PM
meanwhile, Toshiba is attempting to get the 4S through regulatory approval ... i think.

it is a homestead size "Personal nuclear reactor" -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toshiba_4S

10 Megawatts, about enough to power 4000 'normal' homes.


one of my favorite SAFE power plants is the methane powered plant that feeds off the landfill beneath the 22 acre site of Sonoma Compost. It produces about 7 Megawatts. They took the landfill and covered it with concrete, then tapped off some vapor lines to catch the methane from the decomposing garbage. so it powers about 2500 homes.

AND IT DOESN'T BLOW UP AND PUT SH!T IN OUR WATER AND AIR.

i got a tour of the Sonoma Compost facility. when the guy told us about the deal they have with the power plant next door, i made a wise-crack like, "so i guess it's not a good time to light a cigarette".

he didn't think it was funny.

beefsteak
4th September 2011, 02:30 PM
Don't sweat it, Gunny. He must NOT be a GS-US'er. LOL

crazychicken
4th September 2011, 03:25 PM
I want to thank everyone who has kept this thread alive. Research, research, research.

Thanks to all.

CC

Serpo
5th September 2011, 07:01 PM
What.......good news.....for once





Electrified Bacterial Filaments Remove Uranium from Groundwater



Hair-like filaments called pili enable some bacteria to remove uranium from contaminated groundwater. The discovery, published today in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, could aid in the development of radioactivity clean-up technologies.

Some bacteria, including a species called Geobacter sulfurreducens, are known to get their energy from reducing — or adding electrons to — metals in the environment. When uranium dissolved in groundwater is reduced in this way, the metal becomes much less soluble, reducing the spread of contamination.

Researchers have been trying to find out how the process works. They suspected that the pili might be the answer, but because G. sulfurreducens produces pili only in certain environments, the process has proved tricky to study.

Key to the discovery was getting Geobacter to make pili under lab conditions, for example by lowering the temperature. "Standard culture conditions are like a five-star hotel for Geobacter," says Gemma Reguera of Michigan State University in East Lansing, who led the research. "We had to make life a little rougher for them."

Reguera and her team were then able to show that the pili greatly increase the amount of uranium that G. sulfurreducens is able to remove. Without pili, the bacterium reduces uranium within the cell envelope, but this poisons the cell in the process. When pili are present, however, most of the precipitation occurs around the pili, which extend away from the cell. This provides a greater surface area for electron transfer, say the researchers, as well as keeping the radioactive uranium at a safe distance.

An electrifying tale
"This work ties a lot of things together," says Derek Lovley, a microbiologist at the University of Massachusetts Amherst and Reguera's former postdoctoral supervisor.

Earlier this year, Lovley published a paper in Nature Nanotechnology (http://www.scientificamerican.com/topic.cfm?id=nanotechnology) showing that the pili on G. sulfurreducens are a type of 'nanowire', because they conduct electricity. The pili help to power the bacterium by transferring electrons produced during the cell's metabolism to external acceptors such as iron. The fact that pili can also reduce a metal such as uranium "provides further evidence for long-range electron transfer along the pili", he says.

The research should help to improve bioremediation — the use of biological organisms to remove pollutants from soil and water (http://www.scientificamerican.com/topic.cfm?id=water) — such as clean-up of the many sites contaminated by uranium processing during the cold war. "Current methods to stimulate the growth of these bacteria in the environment are pretty crude and empirical," says Lovley. "This new mechanism will allow us to better predict how uranium can be depleted."

Reguera is most excited about the possibility of "getting away from the bugs" and making non-living devices based on nanowires. "This would allow us to work in sites where bacteria cannot live," she says, such as the Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan, which was devastated by a tsunami earlier this year.

Uranium is not the main radioisotope released at Fukushima, but Reguera sees potential for widening the reach of Geobacter pili. In theory, she says, they could help to precipitate out the radioactive isotopes of other elements, such as technetium, plutonium and cobalt. Reguera also envisages fine-tuning the properties of the pili: "Because these nanofilaments are made from protein, we can easily add different functional groups," she says.

Microbiologist Yuri Gorby of the University of Southern California in Los Angeles is optimistic about an emerging field that he refers to as "electromicrobiology". He points out that other microbes, such as photosynthetic cyanobacteria and thermophilic methanogens, also produce conductive nanowires. "I believe that we have only just begun to scratch the surface," he says.
This article is reproduced with permission from Nature magazine. It was first published (http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110905/full/news.2011.519.html) on September 5, 2011.


http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=electrified-bacterial-remove-uranium-groundwater

Serpo
5th September 2011, 07:28 PM
Its a little weird....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2SgonaD4U0&feature=player_embedded

Serpo
6th September 2011, 04:35 AM
Japan nuclear power plants to close (http://en.rian.ru/world/20110906/166465698.html)

http://en.rian.ru/images/16592/20/165922007.jpg (http://en.rian.ru/world/20110906/166465698.html)Japan's trade minister has said all of the country's nuclear reactors will be shut down, following the recent nuclear crisis at Fukushima.
© AFP/ HO / TEPCO


10:15 06/09/2011
MOSCOW, September 6 (RIA Novosti)

Related News



http://en.rian.ru/i/fra/img/bul.gifTackling quake aftermath top priority says Japanese PM (http://en.rian.ru/world/20110902/166380057.html)
http://en.rian.ru/i/fra/img/bul.gifJapan's Congress Against Atomic and Hydrogen Bombs urges end of nuclear industry (http://en.rian.ru/world/20110731/165484546.html)
http://en.rian.ru/i/fra/img/bul.gifIAEA head suggests checks on every 10th nuclear plant (http://en.rian.ru/world/20110620/164725252.html)
http://en.rian.ru/i/fra/img/bul.gifRussia stands to profit from turn away from nuclear power (http://en.rian.ru/valdai_foreign_media/20110615/164620368.html)

Multimedia



Protective “cap” over Fukushima (http://en.rian.ru/infographics/20110628/164883155.html)
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The Fukushima I nuclear power plant (http://en.rian.ru/infographics/20110321/163121175.html)
Reconstruction: Fukushima-1 Nuclear Power Plant accident, Japan (http://en.rian.ru/infographics/20110315/163013616.html)



Japan's trade minister has said all of the country's nuclear reactors will be shut down, following the recent nuclear crisis at Fukushima (http://en.beta.rian.ru/trend/consequences_japanese_quake_2011/).
Yoshio Hachiro, Japan's new trade and energy minister, said the country would have "zero" nuclear reactors in the future.
''Public opinion is generally united in reducing [nuclear plants], instead of increasing them,'' he was quoted as saying by Kyodo news agency on Tuesday.
He said it would be "difficult" to go ahead with plans for new facilities amid a rising tide of anti-nuclear sentiment prompted by the Fukushima disaster.
A powerful earthquake and tsunami (http://en.rian.ru/trend/earthquake_japan_2011/)wrecked the plant's cooling systems on March 11, causing meltdown at three of its reactors.
The crisis prompted the resignation of Prime Minister Naoto Kan, criticized for his handling of the twin disasters, in which more than 15,700 people died.
Former finance minister Yoshiko Noda was elected prime minister last week.


http://en.rian.ru/world/20110906/166465698.html

PatColo
6th September 2011, 04:59 AM
45 mins 10 MBs,

NEW
Yoichi Shimatsu
Japan Update 9.5.11
Free MP3 - Listen
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/audio_icon.gif (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Shimatsu_090511.mp3)

gunDriller
6th September 2011, 06:42 AM
http://japan.failedrobot.com/

Map of Geiger Counters in Japan - high reading is 328 micro-Sieverts/hour.

is there a similar map for the US ? just curious how our readings compare.

beefsteak
6th September 2011, 06:57 AM
PatColo,
Thank you for your commitment and consistency in posting Yoichi's Monday evening Rense interview MP3s. They are a vital, unmuzzled, boots on the ground as well as ear to the ground source. My wife and I are ever so grateful!


beefsteak

Serpo
6th September 2011, 04:14 PM
No leadership in Japan or anywhere......

beefsteak
8th September 2011, 06:53 AM
Serpo,
I've been mulling over your wry observation above...and have come to the rudiments of thought as to why there is no leadership in Japan or anywhere. It appears to me that the reason for this is that we the people are the ones with the power, and we simply have forgotten how to say NO, and how to enforce our will vis a vis out voices and our wallets. Since our individual responsibilities to community were abrogated several generations ago, it is now a leadershipless miasma, and we are reaping what we "sowed" in sloth and non-personal self sufficiency.

Sometimes I long for the days where we worked from sun up to sun down. We didn't know we were without electricity until electricity was invented. We had coal fired, and water powered and kerosene power and of course lamps and candles.

Quite a philosophical train of musings you triggered here at our house. Thanks!

Can't you hear my kids and grandkids groaning, "....there goes Dad/Grandpa again, with his crazy notions and explanations. He just doesn't get it. May I be excused, please to go play on my iPod?"


beefsteak

PatColo
9th September 2011, 07:51 AM
Here's the UC Berkeley study which Shimatsu ref's.... UCB Finds Highest Levels Of Cesium 137 In CA Soils Yet (http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/UCBAirSampling)

***

Proof Of Fukushima Weapons Program
Rests On A Pile Of Manure (http://rense.com/general94/proof.htm)
Rense.com World Exclusive
By Yoichi Shimatsu
Former editor of The Japan Times Weekly,
Studied At UC Berkeley Graduate School Of Journalism.
9-8-11

Soon after Japan's triple disaster, I suggested that an official cover-up of a nuclear-weapons program hidden inside the Fukushima No.1 plant was delaying the effort to contain the reactor meltdowns.

[...] http://rense.com/general94/proof.htm

DMac
9th September 2011, 08:43 AM
Here's the UC Berkeley study which Shimatsu ref's.... UCB Finds Highest Levels Of Cesium 137 In CA Soils Yet (http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/UCBAirSampling)

***

Proof Of Fukushima Weapons Program
Rests On A Pile Of Manure (http://rense.com/general94/proof.htm)
Rense.com World Exclusive
By Yoichi Shimatsu
Former editor of The Japan Times Weekly,
Studied At UC Berkeley Graduate School Of Journalism.
9-8-11

Soon after Japan's triple disaster, I suggested that an official cover-up of a nuclear-weapons program hidden inside the Fukushima No.1 plant was delaying the effort to contain the reactor meltdowns.

[...] http://rense.com/general94/proof.htm



Pat,

Post #572, 16th March 2011 09:30 AM. I've been convinced of the hidden weapons program at Fukushima since March.


Weapons grade plutonium in Japan confirmed, flashback 2003 & 2006. I assume this plant, reactor 3, is one of the production facilities.

Can Japan embrace the atom bomb? (http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_23-2-2003_pg4_10)

Shingo Nishimura, a right-wing member of the Japanese parliament:


http://www.scribd.com/doc/13983876/JAPANnazisOFasiaATROCITIES



Eugene Register-Guard - Jan 7, 2003 newspaper (Google archive link HERE (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=PE9WAAAAIBAJ&sjid=v-sDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3548,1374780&dq=does+japan+possess+nuclear+weapons&hl=en))

________
Edit:
Apparently Japan has tons of weapons-grade plutonium.

Some links:

Sep 9, 2005
The unthinkable: A nuclear-armed Japan (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Japan/GI09Dh03.html)



Friday, March 7, 2003
Japan's A-bomb goal still long way off in '45 (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/member/member.html?nn20030307b7.htm)

(edit - why do quotes within a quoted message disappear?)

gunDriller
10th September 2011, 03:22 PM
Pat,

Post #572, 16th March 2011 09:30 AM. I've been convinced of the hidden weapons program at Fukushima since March.

it's logical.

it explains the choice to use Uranium-based reactors instead of Thorium. the Japanese have the skill to go their own way & use a non-military nuclear technology, if they chose.

i wonder if there is a back door for the Japanese nuclear materials. Japan had a clamp put on their military activity after WW2. but they have enriched uranium.

it is logical that they would do something with it, whether that be horse-trading or weapons development.

beefsteak
10th September 2011, 06:45 PM
45 mins 10 MBs,

NEW
Yoichi Shimatsu
Japan Update 9.5.11
Free MP3 - Listen
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/audio_icon.gif (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Shimatsu_090511.mp3)

Some bullet points as I'm re-listening to this Journalist Yoichi Shimatsu's Last Monday interview. I had it ready to cut and paste, but instead messed up and lost it. So, I'm re-typing the bullet points as they occur instead of the copy paste deal. [More bullet points posts to follow.]

The incineration of culled radioactive dead trees from the forests, radioactive fallout ontop of the devastation from the tsunami being incinerated, plus agricultural radioactive waste [rice, straw, cattle, hogs, horses, etc.] has already begun. The talk about "building incinerators" and "not burning yet" is manipulative news spin. Yoichi states the enormous piles of ashed waste around the [JAPANESE] Pacific Coast incinerators are very large. Plus there is NO place to put the carbon ash residue/output. Much carbon waste, yes even from the phytoremediative Sunflowers are being buried in local landfills.

The horror in this ongoing incinerating of radioactive wastes is in the facts laid forth by Nuke Engineer Arnie Gunderson. It should be disposed of in barrels, and buried, and permanently assigned caretakers for hundreds if not more years.

That GLOBAL, long-standing protocol is NOT happening. There is no clamor for it globally. Sick!!!

In reality the "cleaned up areas around schools" are simply being re-contaminated by the released of ground based radiation being sent airborne AGAIN, and thus redistributed over the "cleaned / decontaminated" areas of Japan. The recent typhoon in Japan [which redeposited the newly released airborne radiation, ON TOP OF THE 10 TRILLION BECQUERELS PER HOUR continuous dispersal from just Fukushima Dai-ichi, has bought the US West Coast approximately 2 weeks of reprieve from the most recent bouts of airborne incineration radiative fallout.

The typhoon's name was Talas.



http://news.google.com/news/tbn/rQBVj2YJMjoJ (http://www.google.com/url?url=http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/09/04/japanese-typhoon-leaves-at-least-20-dead-50-missing/%3Ftest%3Dlatestnews&rct=j&sa=X&ei=6hFsTt_vMOTnsQL7hazVBA&ved=0CDMQpwIwAA&q=Recent+Japanese+Typhoon%3F&usg=AFQjCNErcSo67Amf1sIdC5R6XXR6Y7cxAA)
Japanese Typhoon Leaves At Least 20 Dead (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/09/04/japanese-typhoon-leaves-at-least-20-dead-50-missing/?test=latestnews)
Fox News - 6 days ago
Typhoon Talas, which made landfall Saturday and was one of the deadliest in recent years, packed gusts of up to 68mph (108kph) as it cut across the main ...
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The Australian
►TALAS occurred 6 calendar days ago, which would be the Sunday of Labor Day Holiday Weekend just completed.

So, the West Coast of the USA should receive it's next massive dose of incineration radioactive fallout on the following Sunday, the 17th!

I'm sick about this. Sadly, our Cali. daughter chooses to be oblivious, and mesmerized by her volitional unwillingness to view, analyze and mitigate, let alone re-locate and start some type of chelating mitigations, closer to us, of course this Father and Mother's heart aches to see take place.

God have mercy on us all, and most especially our precious daughter and family.


beefsteak

beefsteak
11th September 2011, 05:37 PM
Another bullet point:

11 of Japan's 55 energy producing reactors are still up and running on that island. All the rest have never been restarted, many because of the damage from the earthquake, which burst cooling/plumbing pipes, etc.

I came away with the impression that Fuku Dai-ichi is the "photographer's birdie" so to speak. Yoichi has spoken before of other western Japanese coastal reactors radiating the both people and the land.


beefsteak

beefsteak
11th September 2011, 05:47 PM
Empirical musings about strange marine life behaviors as put forth by Yoichi.

90% of the abalone shellfish are gone from the ocean now. That was a startling piece of information to learn.

Briefly googling to see what "consumer products" use abalone in their formulation, I didn't see anything in particular that we couldn't live without. Maybe others who know more about abalone in the scheme of the food chain would chime in on this abalone thing....

Sea lions are consuming some creature in quantities now that formerly they didn't not "prefer." (toward the end of the audio segment...like the last 3-4 minutes. If someone else would listen with younger ears and report back what the sea lions are now consuming acc'd to Y.S., I'd really appreciate it!!)

Serpo
11th September 2011, 08:38 PM
Saturday, September 10, 2011

OT: Radiation Contamination Perceived by Different Parties (Joke) (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/ot-radiation-contamination-perceived-by.html)

Radiation contamination maps of perception, created by people at the blog called "Bearded Pirates (http://blog.livedoor.jp/christmas1224/archives/5849801.html) (あごひげ海賊団)" and posted on 9/8/2011, look pretty accurate for mapping the perception of contamination.

Contamination as perceived by people in Tohoku: Fukushima and part of neighboring prefectures. This is very close to what is being reported in the mainstream media, by the way.

http://img.pics.livedoor.com/012/d/e/de473363daf6dd6ba67a-1024.png (http://img.pics.livedoor.com/012/d/e/de473363daf6dd6ba67a-1024.png)
Contamination as perceived by people in Kanto: almost entire Tohoku and northern Kanto.

http://img.pics.livedoor.com/011/a/4/a465c36e34d77803f4b1-1024.png (http://img.pics.livedoor.com/011/a/4/a465c36e34d77803f4b1-1024.png)

Contamination as perceived by people in Hokkaido: almost entire Tohoku, Kanto, and Chubu. It stops right about Lake Biwa.

http://img.pics.livedoor.com/012/b/4/b4d4a7a11e04bee100a9-1024.png (http://img.pics.livedoor.com/012/b/4/b4d4a7a11e04bee100a9-1024.png)
Contamination as perceived by people in Kansai: entire Kanto and Tohoku, half of Chubu, and 2/3 of Hokkaido.
http://img.pics.livedoor.com/011/2/9/29b1f31ee7c582c5f787-1024.png (http://img.pics.livedoor.com/011/2/9/29b1f31ee7c582c5f787-1024.png)
Contamination as perceived by people in Okinawa: almost entire Japan except for Kyushu and part of Shikoku and Chugoku.

http://img.pics.livedoor.com/012/4/5/4548921ca5261fe27966-1024.png (http://img.pics.livedoor.com/012/4/5/4548921ca5261fe27966-1024.png)
Contamination as perceived by people outside Japan: entire Japan

http://img.pics.livedoor.com/011/f/c/fc505d3ca722375ca3d4-1024.png (http://img.pics.livedoor.com/011/f/c/fc505d3ca722375ca3d4-1024.png)
Contamination as perceived by Japanese politicians: area around Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant.

http://img.pics.livedoor.com/012/7/a/7a1c476e72e87f243b9f-1024.png (http://img.pics.livedoor.com/012/7/a/7a1c476e72e87f243b9f-1024.png)
Contamination as perceived by people at TEPCO:

http://img.pics.livedoor.com/012/d/5/d5c3979bb88bb6f5f560-1024.png (http://img.pics.livedoor.com/012/d/5/d5c3979bb88bb6f5f560-1024.png)
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Serpo
11th September 2011, 08:39 PM
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/news/110311/images/110910_1.jpg

beefsteak
11th September 2011, 09:18 PM
Serpo,
Is that the new "tent" enclosure or the old building when it was first built? I simply can't tell. Thanks.

PatColo
11th September 2011, 09:44 PM
WSJ:




ASIA BUSINESS (http://online.wsj.com/public/page/news-asia-business.html)
SEPTEMBER 9, 2011, 12:29 A.M. ET

Japan Economy Worse Than Reported (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903285704576559380092114762.html)


By TAKASHI MOCHIZUKI (http://online.wsj.com/search/term.html?KEYWORDS=TAKASHI+MOCHIZUKI&bylinesearch=true)

TOKYO—The Japanese economy contracted more severely than previously reported in the April-June period, data released Friday showed, with firms cutting back on capital spending at a faster pace in the wake of the March 11 earthquake and tsunami.


The revised gross domestic product shrank at a price-adjusted annual pace of 2.1% in April-June from the previous quarter, the Cabinet Office said, compared with a preliminary 1.3% contraction announced three weeks ago.
[lessee here, 2.1% to 1.3%, that's a 38% downward revision from the 3-week-ago estimate... -PC]

The figure matched expectations from a survey of economists by Dow Jones Newswires and the Nikkei.


Despite the downward revision, analysts remain optimistic about growth in Japan over the coming quarters as post-quake reconstruction is expected to provide a shot in the arm for the nation's economy. A government survey of 40 economists released Thursday showed that, on average, annualized GDP is expected to expand by 4.95% in the July-September period, followed by 2.63% growth in the October-December quarter.



Some analysts also see brighter economic prospects for next year. Mitsumaru Kumagai, chief economist at Daiwa Institute of Research, said the government's expected third extra budget, which is currently being compiled, should have a positive long-term impact on economic growth.



But the strong yen and weakening overseas demand are likely to remain as downside risks, they say.



"There has been an expectation for a strong recovery in the second half of the year, but given concerns for a global economic slowdown and a strong yen, concerns are rising that the recovery may not be as strong as previously expected," said Toshihiro Nagahama, senior economist at Dai-ichi Life Research Institute.



For the GDP data released Friday, a major reason for the downward revision was a reduction in capital spending, which recorded a 0.9% decline in the latest release, from a 0.2% gain in the preliminary data.



Economists and officials say the earthquake and tsunami have weighed on corporate sentiment. "The downward revision is mostly due to weaker domestic demand, especially capital investment and inventories," said a Cabinet Office official briefing reporters.



Real GDP contracted by 0.5% from the previous quarter, the revised figures showed, weaker than the 0.3% fall in the preliminary data.
—Kosaku Narioka contributed to this article.

keehah
12th September 2011, 12:42 AM
Despite the downward revision, analysts remain optimistic about growth in Japan over the coming quarters

Despite!?! Whether or not the revision was the most accurate action or not, it is a mathematical certainty that revising previous reported growth downward will increase your reported future growth by the same amount.

Thats why those who prop up the markets play this trick so often.

Serpo
12th September 2011, 05:37 AM
Sunday, Sep. 11, 2011


http://www.japantimes.co.jp/images/photos2011/nn20110911f1a.jpg

Plugging leaks will end crisis, not cold shutdown: analysts

Evacuees' health said at risk if they return home after 'Step 2' achieved


By KAZUAKI NAGATA (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/JTsearch5.cgi?term1=KAZUAKI%20NAGATA)
Staff writer
Ever since the nuclear crisis erupted six months ago, the public has been clamoring to know when the damaged reactors at the Fu ku shi ma No. 1 power plant will be brought under control and when the nightmare will end.
The government and Tokyo Electric Power Co., which runs the crippled plant, are working to bring the three reactors into cold shutdown by mid-January.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/images/photos2011/nn20110911f1b.jpg
Cold shutdown means the temperature at the bottom of the pressure vessel, which holds the core, has been lowered to less than 100 degrees.
This critical milestone, known as "Step 2" in Tepco's road map for containing the crisis, would limit the release of radioactive materials from the plant to less than 1 millisievert per year, a level that poses no health risks.
Since work at the plant is proceeding relatively smoothly, it appears likely the mid-January target will be met.
But Fukushima No. 1 will still have a long way to go before the flooded plant's reactors are stable enough to be considered safe, experts warn. The main reason is the abundance of highly radioactive water.
"There are about 110,00 tons of contaminated water (in the plant) and the situation is still not completely under control because coolant water is leaking from the containment vessels.
There is no guarantee that the irradiated water won't leak from the plant (and contaminate the environment)" if another natural disaster strikes, said Hisashi Ninokata, a professor of reactor engineering at the Tokyo Institute of Technology.
After achieving cold shutdowns of reactors 1, 2 and 3, the government may declare parts of the 20-km no-go zone around the plant safe. It may even let the evacuees return, as long as the area is decontaminated and crucial infrastructure restored.
But the longer the tainted water leaks, the more the radioactive waste will grow, leaving the Fukushima plant vulnerable to further disasters, Ninokata said.
Before the Fukushima crisis can be said contained, the holes and cracks from which the water and fuel are escaping must be located and sealed. But this extremely difficult task could take years because the radiation near the reactors is simply too high to let workers get near them.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/images/photos2011/nn20110911f1c.jpg Desolation row: The buildings of the four troubled reactors at the Fukushima No. 1 plant are seen from the air in August. KYODO PHOTO "It'll be too early to say that the situation has reached a stable phase even after Step 2 is completed," said Chihiro Kamisawa, a researcher at Citizens' Nuclear Information Center, a nonprofit group of scientists and activists opposed to nuclear power.
When a reactor is in cold shutdown, the water cooling its fuel is still hot but no longer boiling, which significantly reduces the amount of radioactive emissions.
In late July, the temperature in reactor No. 1's pressure vessel fell below 100 degrees. On Monday, the same thing was achieved in reactor 3 after Tepco activated a system that pumps water deep into the containment vessel. But on Friday, reactor No. 2 was still boiling away with a reading of 112.6.
"Efforts seem to be making smooth progress, and I think Step 2 is likely to be achieved by mid-January," said Shinichi Morooka, a Waseda University professor and reactor expert.
Another reason for optimism is the progress being made with the water decontamination system. The cleaning rate has greatly improved in the past few weeks and exceeded 90 percent of capacity last week.
If the decontamination system ever reaches its full potential, it will allow Tepco to inject coolant at a higher rate and bring the melted cores to lower and stabler temperatures.
The government also plans to start decontaminating soil in various hot spots so the evacuees can return once the second step is completed.
But some experts are questioning whether residents should be allowed to return so soon. The cracks and holes in the leaking reactors haven't even been pinpointed yet, let alone fixed, they say.
"As an engineer, I am worried (about the plan to let residents return) when it is still unclear what is really going on inside the reactors," said Morooka.
For the time being, Tepco can only guess where the water is leaking from and which parts need repair, because radiation has prevented workers from fully exploring the buildings.
Spokesman Junichi Matsumoto said that since no extensive damage to the reactors was found during inspections of the first and second floors of the buildings, any holes or cracks are probably at the basement level.
But with the basement floors flooded, Tepco's top priority is just to get the water out. Plans to fix the reactors aren't even being discussed yet, Matsumoto said.
Asked if the containment vessels can take another quake, the Tokyo Institute of Technology's Ninokata said he believes the impact would likely be distributed evenly through the structure without widening existing cracks or holes.
But if the impact somehow focuses on parts damaged by the March 11 disasters, there could be further damage, he said.
"The containment vessel is what really ensures the safety of a nuclear reactor," Ninokata said, warning that if radioactive materials are still leaking out, allowing residents to return would risk harming their health.
Six Months After the Disaster

Six months on, few signs of recovery (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110911a1.html)

By TAKAHIRO FUKADA and SETSUKO KAMIYA

Effect of contaminated soil on food chain sparks fears (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110911a3.html)

By MIZUHO AOKI

Not enough whole body counters to go around (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110911f2.html)

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110911f1.html

Serpo
12th September 2011, 05:39 AM
Serpo,
Is that the new "tent" enclosure or the old building when it was first built? I simply can't tell. Thanks.

Yeh ,excuse me but that photo came out so large I couldnt find room to post the link so here it is

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-steel-frame-for.html


also this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2BmZoH8jnM

Serpo
12th September 2011, 05:43 AM
WSJ:





ASIA BUSINESS (http://online.wsj.com/public/page/news-asia-business.html)
SEPTEMBER 9, 2011, 12:29 A.M. ET


Japan Economy Worse Than Reported (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903285704576559380092114762.html)



Real GDP contracted by 0.5% from the previous quarter, the revised figures showed, weaker than the 0.3% fall in the preliminary data.
—Kosaku Narioka contributed to this article.

Looks like the whole world is on the verge of a global economic melt down......apart from that every things fine....;D

keehah
18th September 2011, 02:32 PM
Not Lunacy. But it will make the effects of past peak fossil fuel use worse.

BBC 18 September 2011
Siemens to quit nuclear industry (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14963575)

Siemens will continue to work in the power industry but drop out of the nuclear sector

German industrial and engineering conglomerate Siemens is to withdraw entirely from the nuclear industry.

The move is a response to the Fukushima nuclear disaster in Japan in March, chief executive Peter Loescher said.

He told Spiegel magazine it was the firm's answer to "the clear positioning of German society and politics for a pullout from nuclear energy".

"The chapter for us is closed," he said, announcing that the firm will no longer build nuclear power stations.

A long-planned joint venture with Russian nuclear firm Rosatom will also be cancelled, although Mr Loescher said he would still seek to work with their partner "in other fields".

Siemens was responsible for building all 17 of Germany's existing nuclear power plants.

But more recently, the firm has limited itself to providing the non-nuclear parts of plants being built by other firms, including current projects in China and Finland.

The latest decision appears to imply a step back from building "conventional islands" - the non-nuclear plant in nuclear power stations - an area in which Siemens has remained active.

However, Mr Loescher also said Siemens would continue to make components, such as steam turbines, that are used in the conventional power industry, but can also be used in nuclear plants.

U-turn
He also gave his backing to the German government's planned switch to renewable energy sources, calling it a "project of the century" and claiming Berlin's target of reaching 35% renewable energy by 2020 was achievable.

The German chancellor, Angela Merkel, announced at the end of May that all of the country's 17 nuclear reactors would be shut down by 2022.

Before the Fukushima disaster, nuclear power accounted for 23% of electricity production in Germany.

The German government's decision marked a complete U-turn by the chancellor, who only in September 2010 had announced that the life of existing nuclear plants would be extended by an average of 12 years.

Siemen's move, announced on Sunday, is also a turnaround.

In 2009, the firm withdrew from an eight-year-old nuclear joint venture with French energy firm Areva, shortly before announcing its new deal with Rosatom.

"In view of global climate change and the increasing power demand worldwide, for us nuclear energy remains an essential part of a sustainable energy mix," Mr Loescher had said at the time.

beefsteak
18th September 2011, 11:18 PM
Only 2 requests of Siemens...
Disassemble & Bury those suckers. Okay, 3 requests. Throw your copious corpulence at the Laser remediation emerging technology for rendering radioactive isotopes inert.

Seeing is believing.


beefsteak

LastResort
19th September 2011, 04:52 AM
We had a group of japanese guys come through work yesterday. They are from a big japanese stamping company that is looking to move its engineering/prototyping over to north america. Just checking out our facilities to see what we're capable of. Hopefully they do move over cause we'll be busier than hell.

Are they looking to move out of Japan because of this disaster? I think so.

beefsteak
19th September 2011, 06:13 AM
Last Resort,

Mind sharing what industry group you are a part of? I can think of all kinds of products which could benefit from engineering/prototyping E&D. Also, perhaps a general idea of which geographic region they are looking at? I'd guess that West Coast would be the "closest" for them. Is that the coast which has the largest skill-pool from which to draw? Usually when I think of "manufacturing" I think east coast, which is why I'm curious. Oh, and were they an English speaking Japanese advance team?

LastResort
19th September 2011, 09:18 AM
By trade I am a toolmaker. We do automotive prototyping mostly. From what I understand they are looking to move closer to where the production facilites are. Where we are located in southern Ontario is not far from the Honda plants in Alliston and the Toyota plants in Cambridge. They were looking at the possibility of moving to one of their big facilities in Oklahoma as well. They did speak some Engrish.... LOL Hope I answered some of your questions. The details are sparse when they trickle down to me...

beefsteak
19th September 2011, 09:58 AM
Understood. Yes, the ole' "trickle down economics..." Thanks. I wondered if it was automotive related.

Bet we could have some fascinating conversations about 3-D Stereo Lithography, yes?

Appreciate the thoroughness of your reply. You're right, they should be "already moved out of Japan"...it's been 6 months, 8 days since Japan literally turned overnight into a hotzone of unimaginable proportions. If you get some work from them, you might wish to invest in a geewhiz radiation detector which measures all 3 types...can't hurt to be too careful, regardless of the trickle-down projects' paperwork. Might literally be "too hot t'handle...." :'(

Your particular scenario brings up all kinds of interesting interactive possibilities, eh? Just promise us one thing...when you get your year end bonus from all the work this looks to bring your way, that you don't spend it on 7 days, 6 nights at Tokyo Hilton.... k?


beefsteak

LastResort
19th September 2011, 11:37 AM
Understood. Yes, the ole' "trickle down economics..." Thanks. I wondered if it was automotive related.

Bet we could have some fascinating conversations about 3-D Stereo Lithography, yes?

Appreciate the thoroughness of your reply. You're right, they should be "already moved out of Japan"...it's been 6 months, 8 days since Japan literally turned overnight into a hotzone of unimaginable proportions. If you get some work from them, you might wish to invest in a geewhiz radiation detector which measures all 3 types...can't hurt to be too careful, regardless of the trickle-down projects' paperwork. Might literally be "too hot t'handle...." :'(

Your particular scenario brings up all kinds of interesting interactive possibilities, eh? Just promise us one thing...when you get your year end bonus from all the work this looks to bring your way, that you don't spend it on 7 days, 6 nights at Tokyo Hilton.... k?


beefsteak

Only learned about lithography in trade school. Pretty interesting process I must say.

They only thing I might have to touch from Japan is their part cad models. Most of the prototyping we do is sheet metal prototypes. For example say X automotive wants to try out a new door hinge. Instead of spending big bucks on production tooling for a part they're not sure is going to even work properly they get us to make some hack tooling for a short run of parts. Anywhere from 10- 100's so they can do their testing etc.

Im sure you might have an idea as to where i might spend any extra cash I get....;)

I'm down to my last 10 bags of premium organic Japanese green tea:(.... Going to have to find something else to drink on my way to work every morning. I read that rooibos tea is supposed to be pretty good for you too.

Serpo
19th September 2011, 03:23 PM
Japanese urge “farewell” to nuclear power six months after quake, Reuters, September 19, 2011:

Sixty thousand protesters gathered in central Tokyo on Monday demanding an end to Japan’s reliance on nuclear power, six month’s after the world’s worst nuclear accident in 25 years. [...]

“Now is the only moment to really change nuclear policy and thishttp://enenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/tokyoprotest.jpg (http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/09/breaking-news-60000-people-stood-up-against-nuclear/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FukushimaDiary+%28Fukushima+D iary%29) is the best time to act [...] If we don’t stop it now, we probably never will.” -Satoe Sakai, 39, from Osaka

http://enenews.com/reuters-60000-people-at-protest-in-tokyo-demanding-end-to-nuclear-power

MNeagle
19th September 2011, 08:35 PM
Will Tokyo Be Evacuated Due to Fukushima Radiation?


Submitted by George Washington (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/george-washington) on 09/19/2011 23:14 -0400



<LI class="taxonomy_term_8436 first">Japan (http://www.zerohedge.com/taxonomy_vtn/term/8436)
Nuclear Power (http://www.zerohedge.com/taxonomy_vtn/term/11901)

By WashingtonsBlog (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/author/washingtonsblog)

Tokyo Radiation Exceeds Chernobyl In Some Places … Japanese Government and Experts Discuss Evacuation

As I noted (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/08/radiation-expert-enormous-quantities-of.html) last month, radiation in some parts of Tokyo is higher than in the Chernobyl exclusion zone.
Yesterday, Al Jazeera pointed out:




Experts estimate the radiation leaked from Fukushima nuclear plant will exceed that of Chernobyl.
***





The need to evacuate parts of the sprawling capital of 35 million may have once seemed an incredible prospect but some experts say the possibility can no longer be ignored.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBkrIgJUWLk&feature=player_embeddedIndeed, as Japan Times reports (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110919a1.html) today, the Japanese government started discussing the potential need to evacuate Japan soon after the quake hit:




In the days immediately after the crisis began at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, the government received a report saying 30 million residents in the Tokyo metropolitan area would have to be evacuated in a worst-case scenario, former Prime Minister Naoto Kan revealed in a recent interview.

***

“It was a crucial moment when I wasn’t sure whether Japan could continue to function as a state,” he said.

After the March 11 earthquake and tsunami crippled the plant, Kan instructed several entities to simulate a worst-case scenario. One of those assessments said everyone residing within 200 to 250 km of the plant — an zone that would encompass half to all of Tokyo and cut clear across Honshu to the Sea of Japan — would have to be evacuated.
Things Are Getting Worse – Not Better – In Japan

While this is a worst-case scenario, things are getting worse – rather than better – at Fukushima. See this (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/09/massive-new-radiation-releases-possible-from-fukushima-especially-if-melted-core-materials-hit-water.html), this (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/09/tents-fukushima-increase-airborn.html), this (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/08/nuclear-expert-because-japanese-are.html) and this (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/08/fukushima-worker-on-camera-%E2%80%9Cthe-holes-and-cracks-in-the-ground-are-terrifying%E2%80%9D.html).

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/will-tokyo-be-evacuated-due-fukushima-radiation?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedg e+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+fo r+everyone+drops+to+zero%29

beefsteak
19th September 2011, 08:50 PM
Thank you ever so much for this sobering yet perceptive review by ZH, MN!

beefsteak

DMac
20th September 2011, 07:04 AM
Typhoon Roke moving into Japan (Cat 3 Hurricane equivalent)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaGlA6NgvIg

Some 1.2 mln advised to evacuate in western, central Japan due to typhoon (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-09/20/c_131150070.htm)

Typhoon Roke Hits Japan on Track for Leaking Nuclear Power Plant (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/09/20/bloomberg_articlesLRT4QP6KLVRE.DTL)

snip

Roke, due in Fukushima prefecture in 48 hours, may hinder work to control leakage of water into the basements of the Dai- Ichi reactor buildings, which contained 102 million liters of radioactive water as of Sept. 13, according to Tokyo Electric estimates. Roke may drop 150 millimeters of rain on Fukushima within 24 hours, likely in short, heavy downpours, Kenji Okada of the Japan Meteorological Agency said by phone today.

Since July, when Tepco said it achieved its phase-one goal of keeping reactors cool and reducing the amount of radiation being emitted, much of the utility's work has focused on decontaminating highly radiated cooling water that ran off into basements and trenches around the damaged reactors.

Radioactive Water

In addition, as much as 500 tons, or 500,000 liters, of underground water are leaking into Dai-Ichi buildings every day through cracks in walls and trenches, Tokyo Electric spokesman Hajime Motojuku said today.

The utility has been injecting water into Dai-Ichi's reactors them since a March 11 earthquake and tsunami knocked out the designated cooling systems, causing the worst nuclear accident in 25 years. Reactors need to be cooled below 100 degrees Celsius to shut down the plant.

PatColo
20th September 2011, 05:01 PM
latest @ rense, the Mon 9/19 Shimatsu interview is not yet posted

NEW
Yoichi Shimatsu
Japan Update 9.12.11
Free MP3 - Listen
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/audio_icon.gif (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Shimatsu_091211.mp3)

Typhoon Heading Straight At Wrecked Fukushima Plant (http://news.businessweek.com/article.asp?documentKey=1376-LRT18P0YHQ0X01-55Q3QUGH85QRAI9AUOIERT87N2)
Gunderson Explains Terrible Mark I Reactor Problems (http://vimeo.com/29294797) - Vid
Fukushima Reactor Basements, Walls Likely Cracked Open (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/now-they-tell-us-series-groundwater.html)
Busby - Help Save Fukushima Children From Radiation (http://australiancannonball.com/2011/09/20/prof-chris-busby-help-save-children-from-fukushima-from-radiation/) - Vid
Fukushima Recriticality - More Radiation In July-August? (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/japanese-researcher-recriticality-in.html)
Japan Says Tsunami Debris 'Spontaneously' Combusitng (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8772727/Japan-piles-of-tsunami-debris-turning-into-giant-bonfires.html)
60,000 Rally Against Nukes In Tokyo (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/60000-strong-anti-nuke-rallies-in-meiji.html)
Fukushima Seafood, Products To Go To Developing Countries (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/japanese-government-to-use-seafood.html)
Japan's Fukushima...History's Worst Human Disaster (http://australiancannonball.com/2011/09/18/japans-fukushima-worst-in-history/) - Vid
Experts Agree Fukushima Worse Than Chernobyl (http://english.aljazeera.net/video/asia-pacific/2011/09/201191845015428149.html) - Vid
42,000 Bq/kg Cesium In Dirt In Yokohama City (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/radiation-in-japan-42000-bqkg-of.html)
Ultimate Impact Of Fukusima Disaster Still Not Known (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/13/AR2011031303930_pf.html)
6.6 Then A 6.2 Hit Near Fukushima Disaster Zone (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005vv7.php)
Tepco's Fuksuhima Dai-Ni Will Be Decommissioned (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-16/tepco-s-fuksuhima-dai-ni-will-be-decommissioned-mainichi-says.html)
'No Radiation' - Was Last Year's Rice Tested In Fukushima? (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/radioactive-rice-nd-says-fukushima.html)
Fukushima - Japan Goes to WAR (http://rense.com/general94/fukii.htm)
Fukushima Children Meet With Government (http://australiancannonball.com/2011/09/16/save-the-fukushima-children-fukushima-children-meet-with-government/) - Vid
Japan Expecting New, Massive Radiation Release At Fukushima (http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110913p2a00m0na010000c.html)
Japan Govt Trying To Stop People From Measuring Radiation (http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/09/breaking-news-japanese-govs-trying-to-stop-citizen-measuring-radiation/)
Big Amount Of Neptunium 239 Flew 60 km From Fukushima (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/nikkan-spa-magazine-researcher-says.html)
BBC - 30 Microsieverts Per Hour Just Inside Exclusion Zone (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14887765)
Japanese Minister Quits After 'Town Of Death' Gaffe (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8756609/Japanese-minister-quits-after-town-of-death-gaffe.html)
Shocking 0.378 Microsieverts In Tokyo Train Station (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2BmZoH8jnM) - Vid
Yokohama City To Dump Radioactive Ash In The Ocean (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110911f1.html)
Plugging Fukushima Leaks Critical To End Crisis (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110911f1.html)
Steel Frame For Reactor 1 Complete, Ready For Cover (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-steel-frame-for.html) - Vid
Fukushima Radiation Contamination Perceptions (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/ot-radiation-contamination-perceived-by.html) (Humor)
Fukushima Radiation In WA State 100,000x Normal In March (http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-09-nuclear-fukushima-aid-future.html)
Fukushima Reactor Core May Now Be Into Groundwater (http://mdn.mainichi.jp/perspectives/news/20110909p2a00m0na016000c.html)
Fukushima 1 Back Into Recriticality (http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/09/breaking-news-fukushima-in-recriticality/)
Proof Of Fukushima Weapons Program Rests On A Pile Of Manure (http://rense.com/general94/proof.htm)
Scientific American - Fukushima...More Very Bad News (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=fukushima-crisis-is-still-hazy)
Massively-Redacted TEPCO Documents - Huge Coverup (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/tepcos-extreme-blackout.html)
Estimate Triples Amount Fukushima Radiation To The Sea (http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/08_25.html)
Finger-Pointing Fukushima Mystery Man Explains Actions (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/heres-man-who-pointed-finger-at-tepcos.html)
Radioactive Manure - 255 CPM - Bought In SoCal (http://enenews.com/report-manure-255-cpm-bought-southern-california-video)
UCB Finds Highest Levels Of Cesium 137 In CA Soils Yet (http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/UCBAirSampling)
Japan Radiation On Way To West Coast Now (http://atmc.jp/switzerland/) - Vid
Fukushima Mystery Man Identified (http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/09/04/enson-inoue-takes-covert-trip-to-fukushima-nuclear-power-plant/) - Vid
Fukushima's Long Link To A Dark Nuclear Past (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/06/world/asia/06abomb.html?_r=1)
Ex-Japan PM Kan Says TEPCO Wanted To Abandon Fukushima! (http://enenews.com/strange-former-japan-leader-meltdown-fukushima-reactors-released-several-times-radiation-chernobyl-dozens-times)
Caldicott-Gunderson - Second Fukushima Coming To The NW (http://ifyoulovethisplanet.org/?p=4952)
How To Find Radioactive-Free Food In Japan (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/guest-post-how-to-source-radioactive.html)
More... (http://rense.com/Datapages/japanquakedat.htm)

beefsteak
20th September 2011, 10:19 PM
Thank you, PatColo. Especially for the Caldicott-Gunderson interview link to which I've now listened and absorbed with sodden blows to the global plexis as it were.

Speaking of Gunderson, He is a whistleblower acc'd to Dr. Helen Caldicott in this September post Gunderson interview she conducted. He lost his home to the govt and he and his wife's commitment to the website and truth telling as much as he can disseminate in small amounts is truly a labor of love and commitment. That is why he is accepting donations. He can truly use them. I didn't know this before listening to the post interview recap by Dr. Caldicott.

There's so much in this interview re: Fukushima, and some info re: The US Nuke auto-shutdown at "something Ana" site just outside DC...as the result of the non-aftershock "purported to be Earthquake 9/5 (?)---well, there's just a lot to take in.

Suggest all who want to know what's truly going on in FUKU as of Sept 6th, to get some fresh news on this audio link...
http://ifyoulovethisplanet.org/?p=4952

The only piece of good news Arnie had was this:
The purification of radioactive water at Fuku is now in operation, so no new water has to be brought in from outside and added to the molten mess in these exploded reactors. He didn't speak to the volumes, but did make the claim that the water capacity they are able to clean up is sufficient to replace the water they are contaminating by pouring them onto these molten masses. I would be so bold as to suggest that the source of this intel from Arnie is none other than Dr. Sanji, former Govt Nuke Head over in Japan, who is still sending out his weekly private email to industry insiders. That's my best guess.


beefsteak

PatColo
21st September 2011, 05:13 AM
I forgot the other headline list @ rense.com (http://rense.com/), that which focuses more on US/Canada fallout/effects, some will be redundant from headline dumps above; but it's latest through oldest, beginning after the bold ones which are pinned at top:

Fuksuhima Radiation In US & Canada FREE LISTEN MP3
Janet Starr Hull ..File Click Here (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Hull_031611.mp3)
US Chart Showing Precipitation
Radiation Types & Amounts (http://opendata.socrata.com/Government/Precipitation-RadNet-Laboratory-Analysis/e2xy-undq)
Live National Radiation Network Map (http://radiationnetwork.com/)
West LA - Santa Monica Live Readings (http://www.enviroreporter.com/2011/03/enviroreporter-coms-radiation-station/#averages)
Radiation And Jet Stream Forecast Monitoring Sites (http://rense.com/general93/radiation.htm)
Radiation Dose Chart (http://xkcd.com/radiation/)
Canada Says Fish Test Rad-Free - Suspicions Grow (http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2011/09/fish-tests-radiation-negative-but-wheres-it-from/)
Plutonium May Be Flowing All The Way To West Coast (http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/09/breaking-news-we-are-running-out-of-time/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FukushimaDiary+%28Fukushima+D iary%29)
Massive Tokyo Anti-Nuke Rally Mocked By Japan MSM (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/photographs-of-60000-strong-anti-nuke.html)
Japan Schools To Program Kids About Radiation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeV0j06jAWA&feature=uploademail) - Vid
BAD NEWS - St. Louis Rainwater 133x Normal Background (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRLabU6TVRY) - Vid
Np 239 Detected In St Louis 9/14/11 Radioactive Rainfall? (http://australiancannonball.com/2011/09/17/maximum-alert-neptunium-239-potentially-detected-in-saint-louis-91411-radioactive-rainfall/)
Japan To Promote Use Of Potentially Radioactive Lumber (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/potentially-radioactive-lumber-to-be.html)
'Non-Intrusive' Radiation Scanners For Heathrow (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2034011/Non-intrusive-scanners-spare-travellers-blushes-Heathrow--turning-stick-men.html)
Rense & Michael Collins - Fukushima Radiation In Our Food (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We50AVrTMk8) - Vid
Video Shows US West Drenched By Fukushima Radiation (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/map-of-cesium-137-deposition-across.html) - Vid
Radioactive Fill 10x Over Background Used On Niagara Roads (http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/niagara/Concerns-over-Falls-road-fill-radiation)
HI Testing For Radiation At Kaneohe Sandbar (http://www.khon2.com/news/local/story/State-testing-for-radioactive-contamination-at/3e_axVWUcUOvo8HeB4iL9Q.cspx)
More... (http://rense.com/Datapages/radiationdat.htm)

beefsteak
21st September 2011, 07:35 AM
Analyzing my internal responses and how they differ regarding various real-time, online reports from credible analysts in multiple sourced posted interviews, I have found that it is easier to go back now, and listen to well reasoned, HISTORICAL lucid speakers on this global tragedy known as Fukushima.

In the beginning of this tragedy, as this long thread attests, any and all reports were thrown against the internet wall. Now, I'm finding I have a sense of "what stuck" and what has passed through to inured blurring of time.

An example that was so striking, is my just re-listening to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUjJxTevy6k&NR=1 a Jeff Rense interview with Londoner Tim Rifat. The portions regarding the unleashing of multiple generations of mutated offspring in this genocidal event now are easier to parse, due simply to the passing of time, and my current emotional/rational/subjective filterings.

What I've learned about myself is that it is hard for me to hear "new news" soundbytes and interviews, but easier to REVIEW and re-listen to the older interviews "with new ears" now that some time has passed since the initial shock stage. My now coming to sad grips with (acceptance? not quite) of the new post Fuku. reality has sunk in as mitigations and behavioral changes in my/our personal/household responses have become my/our new norm.

Anyone else observing this internal shift in observation? Serpo? Pat? MNEagle, LargeSarge, Gundriller to name but a few?

Looking forward to the replies.


beefsteak

k-os
21st September 2011, 08:19 AM
What I've learned about myself is that it is hard for me to hear "new news" soundbytes and interviews, but easier to REVIEW and re-listen to the older interviews "with new ears" now that some time has passed since the initial shock stage. My now coming to sad grips with (acceptance? not quite) of the new post Fuku. reality has sunk in as mitigations and behavioral changes in my/our personal/household responses have become my/our new norm.

Anyone else observing this internal shift in observation? Serpo? Pat? MNEagle, LargeSarge, Gundriller to name but a few?


I know exactly what you are talking about. I re-listen to past talk shows as well, and I am able to get more out of the second listen. I think what happens is two things:
1) It's the second time, so naturally I'm absorbing more information.
2) I am less emotional for the second listen, and able to absorb more information. Emotion seems to hinder critical thinking, at least for me - and I believe I have witnessed this in other people too.

MNeagle
21st September 2011, 08:44 AM
My first thought was The 5 Stages of Grief (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model) for something this catastrophic.

Serpo
22nd September 2011, 02:36 AM
Typhoon knocking over crane


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONQyj-L6wl8&feature=player_embedded

Serpo
22nd September 2011, 02:46 AM
Anger and sorrow for what has befallen us all.

The world is such a special place and nuclear energy is an insult.

To destroy the world because of a profit is beyond compensable.

Humanity becomes cannon fodder for these twisted idiots.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRS5aRqlx1a_bDYIG_GqAWwV6Nv0xdjf sETsUA6_rjkK_VREsqzwVD3dcCA-A

beefsteak
22nd September 2011, 04:44 AM
Oh, brother. I shudder whenever I see those big cranes doing their thing on good days. And, if given a choice, I won't drive down any street where such an erection is installed. But to leave it in place and fully extended in Typhoon winds?????

It's not like Tepco didn't know this typhoon was headed their way!!!!!!!! We all were warned several days ago, Typhoon Roke was homing in on Tokyo to Fukushima like a bird dog on opening day of pheasant season!

That would have been enough time to reduce the profile of the upper boom, yes? Has all reason left the Japanese authorities? Makes this fellow wonder!

The only good thing for the West Coast, but bad for the Island of Honshu is that the radiation has been brought back in upon their own heads for the second time since 3/11, with this second major Typhoon, giving the US West Coast a little radiation deposition break of a couple weeks duration, at least according to what Yoichi Shimatsu stated on the last typhoon making landfall a few weeks ago over there.

But then, the TEPCO idiots aided an abetted by the Japanese Government Dolts are still planning on an early October opening of Reactor #3's Doors--
........................... yes the Mox reactor
-- to let "steam out" so ostensibly "work can begin" on the inside of F#3, as the seasons change. This has been previously announced by TEPCO.

Yes, this also means TEPCO has deliberately timed this early October "vile grand opening" event to take advantage of offshore, reversal of the seasonal flow of their Trade Winds. This weather change is deliberately being anxiously awaited for to carry off the new horrific onslaught of Plutonium radiation dispersal from there over onto the Alaska/Canada/US and Mexico western coast as a new season of Frigid Express weather re-asserts itself as the dominant wet weather generator here on our shared continent. I confess to paying more attention to the evening weather, and eyeballing the jetstream that normally lies along our Canadian Border from the west coast and then meanders and loops to the east.

I got physically sick to my stomach yesterday as I listened to a posted Londoner Rifat interview where it was told of the little school children spontaneously breaking out into radiation poisoning caused nosebleeds back in June. It is now an even more common occurrence in the classrooms of Japan. Can you imagine what angst amongst the children, the parents and the horrified but dedicated teachers is going on in Japanese classrooms now, since March?? (6 months and 11 days since Fuku blew!) I had to go work outside for a while to get back my composure.

This stuff is heart breaking half a world away. And it's ALREADY here but in lesser amounts, and continuing non-stop. It boggles the mind when it's not making me want to wretch.

As parents with a west coast daughter, I never thought I'd say this, but we confess, we don't want any new grandchildren any more. That's sickening to us. We hate for this to be something our daughter even has to take into consideration since March. She seldom alludes to it because it is so painful for her, but we know it is on her mind from things she's said.

You know what they say about grandkids...if we'd have known how much fun they are, when we were younger ourselves, we would have had them first.

Thanks for this safe outlet, GSus'ers. I had to get this off my chest this morning.


beefsteak

LastResort
22nd September 2011, 05:47 AM
I feel your pain Beefsteak. While I don't have any children myself and won't anytime soon, I have a couple really good friends with a young one and they just had another in July. During the first few months of the FUKU fiasco I thought about them daily. I was very relieved when the baby was born intact, healthy, with no health problems.

beefsteak
22nd September 2011, 06:57 AM
Thanks, Last.

Glad your friend's newborn is okay!! Speaking of newborns, oldmansmith on this thread...he and his wife were supposed to be parents by now, and he hasn't responded to my PM asking if everything is allright. I remember earlier on this thread it was addressed that now the new norm here in America to watch newborns closely in the first 2 weeks of post utero life, due to the marked uptick in newborn deaths having been statistically noted and confirmed.

This horrific assault on our ability to procreate both as men and then bearing of our children by the womenfolk is de-population of the most blantant by orders of magnitude.


beefsteak

DMac
22nd September 2011, 07:15 AM
Japan nuke expert: Melted fuel rods estimated to be 12 meters underground Reactors No. 1-3 — To be 100 feet deep in a year (http://enenews.com/japan-nuke-expert-fuel-rods-estimated-be-12-meters-underground-reactors-1-3-be-100-feet-deep-year)

(audio is in Japanese so I'm not linking it here)

[Hiroaki Koide, assistant professor at Kyoto University's Research Reactor Institute] estimates nuclear fuel rods may be now 12m deep under ground at reactor 1-3. Only God knows about reactor 4.


Dept. of Homeland Security-funded Study: Up to 430 pCi/liter of radioactive iodine found in N. California rain after Fukushima (CHART) (http://enenews.com/uc-berkeley-study-430-pciliter-radioactive-iodine-found-california-rain-chart)

:(



Report: Radiation level spiking around Tokyo as typhoon nears Fukushima plant (CHART) (http://enenews.com/report-radiation-level-spiking-around-tokyo-typhoon-nears-fukushima-plant)

http://enenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/spike.jpg

Informative PDF here:

Fukushima Tragedy (http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/documents/nuclear_power/Fukushima-Tragedy.pdf)

Dogman
22nd September 2011, 04:27 PM
been watching and reading this thread,,
ether put a gun against your head, or learn to live with it.

beyond our control. 61 years myself and hope to see the wars that are going to happen.
dam I hate to die, while all the fun is just starting.

Serpo
22nd September 2011, 08:16 PM
Scottish nuclear fuel leak 'will never be completely cleaned up'

The Scottish Environment Protection Agency has abandoned its aim to remove all traces of contamination from the north coast seabed

Dounreay was shut in 1993 but radioactive contamination will 'never be completely cleaned up'. Photograph: Murdo Macleod

Radioactive contamination that leaked for more than two decades from the Dounreay nuclear plant on the north coast of Scotland will never be completely cleaned up, a Scottish government agency has admitted.

The Scottish Environment Protection Agency (Sepa) has decided to give up on its aim of returning the seabed near the plant to a "pristine condition". To do so, it said, could cause "more harm than good".

At a board meeting in Stirling on Tuesday, the Scottish government's environmental watchdog opted to encourage remediation "as far as is practically achievable" but to abandon any hope of removing all the radioactive pollution from the seabed.

Tens of thousands of radioactive fuel fragments escaped from the Dounreay plant between 1963 and 1984, polluting local beaches, the coastline and the seabed. Fishing has been banned within a two-kilometre radius of the plant since 1997.

The most radioactive of the particles are regarded by experts as potentially lethal if ingested. Similar in size to grains of sand, they contain caesium-137, which has a half-life of 30 years, but they can also incorporate traces of plutonium-239, which has a half-life of over 24,000 years – meaning that is the time period for half of the material to break down.

The particles are milled shards from the reprocessing of irradiated uranium and plutonium fuel from two long-defunct reactors. They are thought to have drained into the sea with discharges from cooling ponds.

In 2007, Dounreay, which is now being decommissioned, pleaded guilty at Wick sheriff court to a "failure to prevent fragments of irradiated nuclear fuel being discharged into the environment". The plant's operator at the time, the UK Atomic Energy Authority, was fined £140,000.

Since 2008, over 2,300 radioactive particles have been recovered from the seabed, with 351 removed by a remotely operated underwater vehicle this summer. Since 1983, over 480 particles have also been found on three local beaches and the Dounreay foreshore.

Sepa recommended in 1998 that the seabed around Dounreay should be returned to a "pristine condition". Since then, it pointed out, the contamination had been extensively investigated and new regulations on radioactively contaminated land had come into force.

"It is now widely accepted that a literal return to a pristine condition is a far from simple or even achievable concept," a Sepa spokeswoman told the Guardian.

"Trying to achieve it might also cause more harm than good. There is the potential that ecosystems may be destroyed on trying to get to something which does not pose a significant hazard."

An expert committee set up by Sepa warned in 2006 that disturbing the seabed could cause particles to escape and be swept ashore, putting members of the public at risk. The most radioactive particle found "could have had life-threatening consequences if it had been ingested", the committee said.

Sepa's board agreed to change its policy to encourage further remediation "provided that this achieves more good than harm and accepting that at some sites it will not be practical to return the land to a pristine condition".

Dounreay, which is now managed by a consortium including the UK engineering firm Babcock, welcomed Sepa's new policy. It was still aiming to remove "the majority of the most hazardous particles, together with the removal of any other particles encountered," said the site's senior project manager, Phil Cartwright.

"The best practicable environmental option, which was welcomed by the government agencies, is focused on doing more good than harm and was publicly discussed on the basis that it would never be possible to retrieve every particle."

Friends of the Earth Scotland, however, attacked the development. "Once again, we see the nuclear industry causing a problem it can't solve, and dumping the cost and consequence on the rest of us," said the environmental group's chief executive, Stan Blackley.

"Nuclear power is neither safe, clean, cheap nor low-carbon and it continues to cause problems and cost the taxpayer a hidden and open-ended fortune. Let's learn from our past mistakes and consign it to a lead-lined dustbin."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/sep/21/scottish-nuclear-leak-clean-up

Serpo
22nd September 2011, 08:21 PM
been watching and reading this thread,,
ether put a gun against your head, or learn to live with it.

beyond our control. 61 years myself and hope to see the wars that are going to happen.
dam I hate to die, while all the fun is just starting.

WTF are you talking about....................learn to live with nuclear fallout..................yea the Japanese are one step ahead of us on that one.

Put a gun too our heads.....and our children's and theirs too?

You in love with death now dogman or will it just relieve the boredom.

Joe King
22nd September 2011, 08:24 PM
What he's saying is, what are you going to really do about it?

After all, it's not as though it's something that can be cleaned up.

beefsteak
22nd September 2011, 08:29 PM
been watching and reading this thread,,
ether put a gun against your head, or learn to live with it.

beyond our control. 61 years myself and hope to see the wars that are going to happen.
dam I hate to die, while all the fun is just starting.

Dogman,

I can only speak for me and my household. However, speak I will. Neither of your two polarizing options is an option for either me nor my wife.

It is our sincere hope you will come to realize there are ALWAYS more than 2 options in horrific situations. Freedom of choice is just that...the freedom to look for, create, additional appropriate responses instead of surrender to the fatalism thoroughly permeating your "either/or."


beefsteak

beefsteak
22nd September 2011, 08:34 PM
What he's saying is, what are you going to really do about it?

After all, it's not as though it's something that can be cleaned up.

And THAT Joe King, is exactly the challenge, and the substance of the human hope that lies with in all of us who have a Higher Power to whom we answer and from whom we take direction and seek guidance.

When one strives to live in a relationship with each other and with the planet and with the Higher Power, that perspective and life-long journey--individually and collectively-- calls forth every ounce of love and positive "one foot in front of another" discipline from each one, even in the face of nuclear horror in which we are all entangled.

Deliberately behaving flowing from a point of commitment to love and therefore to life, is the only option.

"Tarry 'til HE comes," is our clear mission statement, not "endure til HE comes..." nor " 'duck and cover' til HE comes." And when me and my household are in the "tarry" mode, we are in active, alert, and engaged mode. It's the only thing that resonates and "feels right."


beefsteak

Joe King
22nd September 2011, 08:39 PM
Ok, I agree with your "substance of human hope" thing, but again, what can we really do about it? The stuff is invisible and blowing around in the wind, eventually ending up all of the World. There could be some here in this spot, but not in that one right over there and add to that the fact it's not really being tested for.

So what do you do that's effective?

How had you already protected yourself from the fallout that was already here prior to the Japan disaster?

beefsteak
22nd September 2011, 10:13 PM
Joe,
with all due respect, bro', it is not a "thing" but a way of life, a volitional choice, a decision to mitigate the unspeakable nucleation effects based upon the hope that is within us, and to do so with "meekness and respect" as Paul admonishes young Timothy I seem to recall it was, in one of my favorite Holy Writ quotes. This one comes from the New Covenant book of Peter, Chapter 3, Verse 15B.

While I'd like to comply with some extraordinarily brief summation statement w/r/t what I do that "is effective..." I think I've already posted that on this thread since 3/11, and grown, tried, discarded what didn't work and embraced what does, right out in GSus public, miscues and successes and all in between as we've come to grips with this modern, global tragedy.

Perhaps you'd rather go back and read rather than have me bore you with a bunch of I / we statements and re-iterations consistently posted here since 3/11? ? ? ? ?

If I were to put it into as few words as possible, it would be to immediately tackle with discipline and much humble prayer and thoughtfulness, to clean up our bodies, our homes, our properties and our food supply, so that our cellular level response is one that facilitates the de-poisoning on an individual basis, and makes us available to other family members who do not get it yet, in particular.

We believe our bodies are a gift from Higher Power, and under these stresses, cellular level support coupled with ongoing and permanent state of meditation and prayerfulness is our best effort response.

Please put the gun down, and discard the fatalism. Life is for the living.


beefsteak

Joe King
22nd September 2011, 10:33 PM
How do you know what works against something that won't show any effects for years to come?

After stuff like this, it's only years later that higher cancer rates are noted.

The whole thing seems like a big crap-shoot, luck-of-the-draw kinda thing to me.
ie one chunk of cheese might have something in it and the next one not, with no real good way to tell them apart. Or the air that you breathed in while at the local Park had a "hot particle" in it and the air that someone ten feet away breathed in didn't and neither of you can tell the difference.

How do you guard against something like that? Do we all have to start wearing those paper masks like they've been doing for a long time in Japan? Or what?

Serpo
23rd September 2011, 04:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h1Av1i0Z_o&feature=player_embedded

Serpo
23rd September 2011, 04:22 AM
What he's saying is, what are you going to really do about it? IMPROVE PEOPLES AWARENESS ON THE SUBJECT IE JK

After all, it's not as though it's something that can be cleaned up.

Thats not what he said at all,thats what you are saying.

Yes it cant be cleaned up, the Japanese have proved that.

What to do about it ,one thing is too increase awareness of the dangers of nuclear
power,which is what the purpose of this thread is as well as inform people of what is going on.

If you dont agree it is something then thats the best we can do.

Serpo
23rd September 2011, 04:27 AM
How do you know what works against something that won't show any effects for years to come?

After stuff like this, it's only years later that higher cancer rates are noted.

The whole thing seems like a big crap-shoot, luck-of-the-draw kinda thing to me.
ie one chunk of cheese might have something in it and the next one not, with no real good way to tell them apart. Or the air that you breathed in while at the local Park had a "hot particle" in it and the air that someone ten feet away breathed in didn't and neither of you can tell the difference.

How do you guard against something like that? Do we all have to start wearing those paper masks like they've been doing for a long time in Japan? Or what?

What we have to go back over all the stuff covered before......look through the thread for any information you want its all there........if you are serious keep up with the thread

Serpo
23rd September 2011, 04:38 AM
There has been over 2600 posts on this thread,its a bit late to come out and ask now how do we guard against this.......lets just say we are still working on it.......

Serpo
23rd September 2011, 04:51 AM
A new study by the Pearlman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania revealed the radiation protection of conferred humble flax seeds. The researchers noted that the protection offered by flax seeds even included repair of tissues after exposure. The study was published in a recent issue of BioMed Central Cancer.

The Research
http://www.naturalnews.com/033657_flax_seeds_health_benefits.html
The research focused on Flax seed's ability to protect lung tissue prior to exposure and the ability of flax to repair damaged lung tissue after exposure. They used mice for their published study, but now they're doing a clinical study on humans receiving radiation for cancer treatment.

Melpo Christofidou-Solomidou and his research team fed some mice flax seeds both before and others after radiating them. They found that both the before and after radiation flax fed mice survived even lethal doses of radiation in good health while many that weren't fed flax died.

Not only did the flax fed mice survive, but they also managed to get healthier. They had higher body weight and minimal lung inflammation, which is common with radiation therapy treated cancer patients. Apparently, the sole purpose of this study is to find a way for cancer patients to survive radiation.

But there is more to radiation than cancer treatments. Radiation is almost ubiquitous and affects most if not all of us, especially in the northern hemisphere. We are faced with a radioactive spewing Fukushima leak worse than Chernobyl ever was. Fukushima continues without abatement and may go on much longer.

Then there is all that vaporized "depleted uranium" (DU) from armor piercing weaponry used throughout the Middle East. It's so bad it used to be a war crime to use DU bullets and shells. This DU issue and Fukushima's outpouring has stuff floating around throughout the northern hemisphere constantly.

Two years ago, it was discovered that radiation poisoning can be cumulative. So add ionizing radiation from medical X-rays or CT scans and TSA airport scanner checks into the above mentioned mix. All this adds up to a significant accumulation of radiation.

Supplementing with Flax

Even the researchers discovered firsthand the other health benefits of flax: An anti-oxidant, an anti-inflammatory, and a source of abundant omega-3 essential fatty acids. It's rumored the whole team is now using flax on a daily basis.

Flax seeds can be supplemented by cold pressed flax seed oil, capsules containing flax seed oil, or flax seeds directly. Dr. Johanna Budwig, who developed a cancer cure using a basic diet of flaxseed oil with cottage cheese, discouraged the use of flax seed oil capsules. She favored organic cold pressed flax seed oil in its original bottled form.

But the only way to consume raw flax seeds is by grinding raw flax seeds in a coffee grinder and adding the powder to food or water or by simply eating the powder by the spoonful with a water chaser. Make sure you use bulk organic flax seeds, either gold or brown.

Bulk organic flax seeds are very inexpensive. Some health experts recommend at least two tablespoons of ground flax seeds per day. With today's scary scenario of constant radiation, it might be wise to double that daily dose. There are no negative side effects from consuming flax seeds.

Caveat Don't grind up a bunch of flax seeds and let them sit around. They should be consumed within two hours of grinding. Once they're ground, they lose their nutritional value quickly. But as bulk raw seeds before grinding, they have a very long shelf life.

[Editor's Note: NaturalNews is strongly against the use of all forms of animal testing. We fully support implementation of humane medical experimentation that promotes the health and wellbeing of all living creatures.]

Sources for this article include:

http://www.examiner.com/nutrition-i...

http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite...

http://www.healthiertalk.com/little...

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?...

Joe King
23rd September 2011, 05:29 AM
There has been over 2600 posts on this thread,its a bit late to come out and ask now how do we guard against this.......lets just say we are still working on it.......
Exactly my point.
ie no one really knows what to do.

I do agree that being aware is good and that these power plants should have never been built.

beefsteak
23rd September 2011, 06:55 AM
Joe,
let me try again. Many know exactly what to do, and are doing it to the best of their ability with the aid of solid medical and nutritional science research.

You have asked for some specifics. Here are some. They are not "original" to us, but gleaned from studying others.

1)
The Mrs. has refused this year's scheduled mammogram this spring due to the cumulative effect of radiation on top of Fukushima's fallout dispersal. She wouldn't have dreamed of it prior to 3/11.

2)
We both have stopped flying. Period. Therefore, no TSA fullbody scans adding radiation loads to our already coping physical life systems.

3)
Using posted capsule making tools and veggie cap sources to incorporate sodium bicarb, tumeric, and flaxseed just to name 3 have no been incorporated, as we clean up our bodies on the cellular level. Ditto, French Green Clay openly dispersed by the USSR in free chocolate handouts societally, after Chernobyl blew. FGC is a cellular radiation scavenger as well as a documented chelation technique/mitigant based upon milligram ingestion to which you refer coordinated with kilo body weight to determine appropriate remediation amounts from trusted Medical & Nutritional Sources such as Caldicott, Starr-Hull, Blaylock, Mercola to name but 4.

4)
No food grown nor processed post 3/11 has been consumed in our household since TSHTF. Did you miss the post where I've sensibly lost 43# just since March 11, due to better eating, and deliberate food/prep behavorial changes?

These are just some basics, minimum proven cellular support actions, directly impacting the elimination system for the scavenging and removal of the deadly, low dose radiation cumulative effects, hot particles and all.

5)
As far as masks? We've both been wearing them since 3/11, since paper is the first step in reducing alpha particles. Consistently.

6)
We have incorporate personal, decontamination protocols.

This brings up, external radiation vs ingested/inhaled radiation discussion. If you don't have a personal decontam protocol, why not? Do you not want to continue living in robust health while incorporating life sustaining behavior changes?

That is the larger question for you, not what Mr & Mrs Beefsteak "are doing" based upon our faith system, and commitment to "tarry till HE comes" while living life abundantly" within the new perameters now non-volitionally thrust upon us.

Our faith systems demands positive responses to new challenges, not give up and throw up fatalism you are insisting upon promulgating, whether the throw up is stomach contents or throwing up our hands in a gesture of despair.

It's about the freedom to chose, Joe King. We've chosen to educate, mitigate and navigate, assist elimination. Both internally and externally.

You've chosen to ignore, debate, and at times, ridicule and/or deprecate positive cellular support behaviors of myself and others because you want to make a point about "unseen radiation fuel fleas?"

You're on your own, Joe. Seems you've made your choice. We've made ours. Odds are, you'll be buried first.

Acc'd to Dr. Caldicott, the radiation poisoning CANCERS will be seen in the children within the next 6 months...NOT years down the road as you claim.

Remember the common, nosebleeds were already noted/recorded on this thread, from as eaerly as June 2011, barely 3 months into this tragic aftermath. And the death rate among newborns here stateside is alarming and statistically noted since 3/11.

7)
To put it bluntly, I'm still virile, and I'm not out sharing my "seed...." That is not a "sudden behavioral change" post 3/11, it was a life decision made many many decades ago and society is reaping the benefit if I may be so bold, from my personal and disciplined restraint in this arena.

You asked for it, so I'm sharing personal responsibility anecdotal accounts with this thread, and now with you in particular.

Cellular support as the result of mega radiation dosing in alpha, gamma, beta modalities, means
cleaning up my personal breathing air,
my personal food ingestion,
my personal water consumption,
my personal elimination systems,
and not contributing to yours and other's systemic overloads in the process of cellular support for me and the Mrs.

Beats sitting around waiting to die, Joe, because someone has filled your head with "don't see,taste,touch,smell it, so don't do anything" radiation fatalism.

Go in peace, Joe. It IS too late for you since you have already made the decision to C'est la vie (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=C%27est%20la%20vie)

For myself, and my household, we will serve and be obedient to the Most High, with every cellularly supported fiber of our being. It's simply the old mantra, when I knew better, I did better.

Selah.

Joe King
23rd September 2011, 07:36 AM
I'm not saying to not do anything, but how in the World are you going to continue very long while not consuming any food grown nor processed post 3/11? That seems to pretty much covers everything food-wise. What are you going to eat? This situation is going to go on for years.

Also, you do know that flax seed is very high in something known as phytoestrogen, right? Might be good for the wife, but you might wanna be careful with it.
It has been shown to reduce hormone induced cancers, but it's believed to do that by displacing natural estrogen.

As far as the increase of cancer in children in 6 months, we should have the answer on that one very soon then.

beefsteak
23rd September 2011, 07:40 AM
Serpo,
THANKS for the additional flaxseed info. Good to know.

Speaking of seeds...

The wife and I feel like we scored big yesterday. We happened to be searching in a new to us local retailer for bulk seed remnants from the 2011 growing season. They were rubber-banding in bundles in a simple cardboard box outside the office/bathroom doors at this particular local retailer...just one step away from being permanently consigned to the dumpster and taken off the story inventory.

Therein, we found several heirloom seed varieties grown in 2010 for dispersal in 2011. THAT was a score allrighty!

But wait...there's more.

Turns out this store has considerable "pet food" inventory...in particular for our feathered friends, which had been just restocked getting ready for those of us who feed birds in the winter. My wife and I love supplementing winter diet for our feathered friends.

There among all the offerings were considerable last year crop supplies of sunflower seed seconds, as well as last year harvested pumpkin seeds. By the 15# bag full.

These were both purchased in bulk by the retailer from the company who is the largest grower of both FOR THE FOOD/TRAILMIX industry in this nation. One of them is even sourced from New Zealand. YAY!

To render these sunflower seed seconds into first will require heat treating on our part, much like soil is "sterilized" and that does NOT mean boiling the dirt. LOL

Then a gentle winnowing will remove any husks that remain, much like my Mother used to make me remove the hulls from the peanuts back in the day. So this is a technique I haven't used in decades, but believe me I haven't forgotten how.

The pumpkin seed sacks will also undergo identical heat-pretreatment before consumption.

Like I said, we scored yesterday. And if this type "bird feed stocking retailer" exists in MN for MNeagle or in Cali for Lapis, or in ploughkeepsie for the rest of you, I say sic'em.

Why not ask for bulk flaxseed while you're there? ? ? ?


beefsteak

beefsteak
23rd September 2011, 07:51 AM
I'm eating just fine. So is the Mrs. WE do not subscribe to the GMO/Monsanto has a grip on all available food modality.

Why not acquire some heirloom seeds, Joe? Learn your lessons using hydroponics this winter and get busy on solving this one while simultaneously not flying, not getting mammograms, not spreading your seed, and wearing your mask? Do you know how short the time-frame is between planting, let's say, baby romaine and actual harvesting enough to sustain natural calcium boosting green leafy romaine for 2 for the rest of your natural life? Ditto your wife? Kids? How much romaine would that take, Joe?

Get out your calendar, your watering can, some pearlite and some heirloom seeds and get busy. Isn't your stomach growling?

This was a simple positive nutritional response based upon a far out in the country "neighbor" lady who raises button quail, canaries, and parakeets for wholesale and retail outlets to supplement her $300 month S/S, telling us how she supplies her birds with daily fresh lettuce, YEAR-ROUND, and never darkening a grocery store. And she's too old and stove up to garden outdoors anymore and has been restricted for many years from pursuing that "traditional gardening" source.

We bless her for the romaine tip.

This is just one example, Joe.

Now multiply that to growing your own beans, peas, lentils, etc. It's doable. Might have to give up your pool table and re-purpose that "den" to pull it off. Isn't your stomach more important than your cue stick?

Cellular health requires both estrogen and testosterone in balance. I'm not concerned I'll suddenly turn into a man-boob specimen with monthly cycles from incorporating more flax in proper dietary manner at my house.

I've observed your "estrogen/testosterone" discussion participation in other forum threads. I think I can safely say, you need to do more work on this topic before "advising other men" on their hormone balances.

As far as the children with leukemia and other cancers becoming far more visible within the next 6 months, let me ask you a question back, then.

Do you personally believe NOW the startling USA based statistical spike in post 3/11 newborn deaths which have been attributed to the new radionuclide onslaught? If not, what makes you think you'll accept as fact, statistically deviations based and reported RE: childhood cancers in the next 6 months...regardless of whether in Japan or here stateside?

I don't think you believe anything unless you can't taste, touch, smell, or pinch it. That's truly sad!!!

I think you are more interested in pursuing your fatalistic death glorifying agenda than truly learning and altering what you've always done and see no reason to change "bias" masquerading as non-affected, nuked like the rest of us except to a greater extent as compared to my household posturing on this forum.

From what I've observed, Joe King, you are more interested in engagement than in personal responsibility and involvement. This to me, a veteran of internet forums, that you are a shill, and a govt planted dis-info agent, masquerading as an interested human seeking personal change. That's my best guess, anyhow.

This engagement with you on this thread is in the wind down now, Joe. I simply don't have the time to waste, now that I'm quite literally going back to my roots and taking on more of the feeding my family the old fashioned way chores in my home. G'pa would be proud to know me now. You?

beefsteak

Dogman
23rd September 2011, 07:53 AM
There comes a time in life, that one needs to ask, is it worth it? Ether obsess or just live and live to the max enjoying every second of it.


Small break in the train of thought....


Done!

Carry on!

Joe King
23rd September 2011, 08:01 AM
Why not acquire some heirloom seeds, Joe? Learn your lessons using hydroponics this winter and get busy on solving this one while simultaneously not flying, not getting mammograms, not spreading your seed, and wearing your mask? Do you know how short the time-frame is between planting, let's say, baby romaine and actual harvesting enough to sustain natural calcium boosting green leafy romaine for 2 for the rest of your natural life? Ditto your wife? Kids? How much romaine would that take, Joe?

I thought you said you weren't eating anything grown or processed after 3/11? So how do you know that no hot particles have landed on your land that you grow on?


BTW, I rarely have need to fly, and I don't get mammograms either. Never have. lol

I haven't seen the data on the stats showing a spike in newborn deaths.
Pardon me, but I'll admit that I haven't read this entire thread. It was already way long when I started posting again. I can barely keep up with the current new posts on here. lol Let alone the old ones.
...and it's not that I have to be able to touch taste feel or smell it for something to exist, it's that I just don't like living in fear constantly.

beefsteak
23rd September 2011, 08:12 AM
Since you asked, Dogman, YES is my answer, and for me and my household.

As far as being "obsessed" as you negatively imply some on this thread of being....I don't care what label you place on my focus upon living a quality life to the best of my ability and being the leader in my own home and family, aka a male role-model, shelter and provider for my wife, children, grand and great grand, plus my community, "obsessed??

Plead cheerfully guilty on all counts. ;D

beefsteak

beefsteak
23rd September 2011, 08:22 AM
There is a difference, Joe, of living "IN FEAR" and living with the results of fear.

I've chosen the later course. Fear translates to cellular stress. Pro-actively incorporating behavioral mods has been a GREAT fear reducer here at my house.

And that translates to more abundant living, and less cellular stress.

You should try it sometime.

As far as no post 3/11 grown nor processed...I stand corrected. I've consumed NO post 3/11 grown nor processed by others food since 3/11. Nor has my wife. It's challenging but doable.

As far as how we've insured the reduction of radiation on grown food...well, you'll have to do your own research on that. You're still at the non-convinced of any alpha particle reduction by use of face masks has any positive benefit in cumulative radiation reduction phase if I read you correctly.... LOL

Hint...no, I haven't wrapped the house in tin-foil. ROTFLMKO

Oh, and before I forget, while you're researching all this, or poking and prodding others...research male breast cancer, and then re-consider mammography, okay? Someone in your family give a rat's behind even if you don't.


beefsteak

Dogman
23rd September 2011, 08:22 AM
Since you asked, Dogman, YES is my answer, and for me and my household.

As far as being "obsessed?" If being obsessed with living a quality life to the best of my ability and being a leader in my own home?

Plead cheerfully guilty on all counts.

You obsessed with living?

I am 61 tipping into 62 years living on this rock of a planet. Have seen alot.

At my age, What in the hell is going to kill me, and do I care?

You younger ones can run scared, but for myself I ask Is it worth it?

For me No, For you only you can answer that question!

I know I have a date with death, anytime . Sooner than later!

For the young , think about it...

beefsteak
23rd September 2011, 08:25 AM
The 60s are in my rear view mirror, Dogman. All my bloodline has lived into their 80s, 90s, with some making it into their 100s before the final transition took place. And they didn't die of cancer either. One was complications of adult onset diabetes, the others of just plain wore out'ness, and the heart stopping from old age.

You've got another 30+ years if you do this living thing correctly, minimally. Just ask "Suze Orman." LOL

Not after Methusula's record here...but still planning on several more decades with good reason to believe it is "in my genes."

Ayup, it is appointed unto man once to die. Doesn't mean I have to aid and abet it out of ignorance nor fatalism, nor hasten it by fear based stressful living.

I'm more in a saddened response modality than I am in fear, truth be told. I hate the suffering I see as the result of the elitist actions on the rest of us, with occasional bouts of anger making it through to the surface as you all have seen me unvarnishedly sharing here.


beefsteak

Joe King
23rd September 2011, 08:29 AM
As far as no post 3/11 grown nor processed...I stand corrected. I've consumed NO post 3/11 grown nor processed by others food since 3/11. Nor has my wife. It's challenging but doable.So you're not as concerned about particles blowing in the wind landing on your garden as you are them landing on a commercial garden?

I'd think that a way to minimize exposure via grown food would be to source that food from as far away from Japan as possible. Certainly from nowhere downwind, anyways.....and aren't we downwind from Japan?

beefsteak
23rd September 2011, 08:32 AM
Did you miss the clue in the "sunflower seeds from NewZealand" a few posts back...

geez you must skim a lot of threads as a shill, to miss a biggie like that clue....

No, I'm not concerned about "fuel fleas landing upon the food production dedicated area."

You have skylights in your pool room which you leave open 24/7/365 or something??? If so, you probably have larger concerns (droppings?) than fuel fleas...

LOL

Dogman
23rd September 2011, 08:58 AM
The 60s are in my rear view mirror, Dogman. All my bloodline has lived into their 80s, 90s, with some making it into their 100s before the final transition took place. And they didn't die of cancer either. One was complications of adult onset diabetes, the others of just plain wore out'ness, and the heart stopping from old age.

You've got another 30+ years if you do this living thing correctly, minimally. Just ask "Suze Orman." LOL

Not after Methusula's record here...but still planning on several more decades with good reason to believe it is "in my genes."

Ayup, it is appointed unto man once to die. Doesn't mean I have to aid and abet it out of ignorance nor fatalism, nor hasten it by fear based stressful living.

I'm more in a saddened response modality than I am in fear, truth be told. I hate the suffering I see as the result of the elitist actions on the rest of us, with occasional bouts of anger making it through to the surface as you all have seen me unvarnishedly sharing here.


beefsteak

From one old fart in training to a real one ......Big hug!


Not a gay thing about it...

Joe King
23rd September 2011, 09:16 AM
Oh, and before I forget, while you're researching all this, or poking and prodding others...research male breast cancer, and then re-consider mammography, okay? Someone in your family give a rat's behind even if you don't.Oh, I realize that male breast cancer is a very real thing, but still, don't you have to have "enough there" to be able to even get a mammogram?
Otherwise it's just a chest xray, no?

beefsteak
23rd September 2011, 09:23 AM
Trust me, they know how to "palpate enough" to squeeze between the plates. I didn't indicate it was less painful for men than women. I know better.

So, no it is not just a "chest x-ray." At least not around here. I have some buddies who have had the more traditional mammogram.

Even my flat-chested mother-in-law, may she rest in piece, had enough for them to squeeze between those plates, and all she had left was basically nipples, according to my wife.

Joe King
23rd September 2011, 09:46 AM
Trust me, they know how to "palpate enough" to squeeze between the plates. I didn't indicate it was less painful for men than women. I know better.

So, no it is not just a "chest x-ray." At least not around here. I have some buddies who have had the more traditional mammogram.

Even my flat-chested mother-in-law, may she rest in piece, had enough for them to squeeze between those plates, and all she had left was basically nipples, according to my wife.I was saying that if you're flat chested there's not much to grab and if there's not much to grab, what are they really xraying? Gotta get the actual mammory glands in there. If they're not developed, how you get 'em in there? ???

Serpo
23rd September 2011, 02:38 PM
While the 2011 earthquake and worries surrounding Fukushima have brought the threat of radioactivity back into the public consciousness, many people still don't realize that radioactive contamination is a worldwide danger. Radionuclides are in the top six toxic threats as listed in the 2010 report by The Blacksmith Institute, an NGO dedicated to tackling pollution. You might be surprised by the locations of some of the world’s most radioactive places — and thus the number of people living in fear of the effects radiation could have on them and their children.


10. Hanford, USA


http://media.brainz.org/uploads/2011/09/hanford-site-waste.jpgThe Hanford Site, in Washington, was an integral part of the US atomic bomb project, manufacturing plutonium for the first nuclear bomb and "Fat Man," used at Nagasaki. As the Cold War waged on, it ramped up production, supplying plutonium for most of America's 60,000 nuclear weapons. Although decommissioned, it still holds two thirds of the volume of the country’s high-level radioactive waste — about 53 million gallons of liquid waste, 25 million cubic feet of solid waste and 200 square miles of contaminated groundwater underneath the area, making it the most contaminated site in the US. The environmental devastation of this area makes it clear that the threat of radioactivity is not simply something that will arrive in a missile attack, but could be lurking in the heart of your own country.


9. The Mediterranean


http://media.brainz.org/uploads/2011/09/sardinia.jpgFor years, there have been allegations that the ‘Ndrangheta syndicate of the Italian mafia has been using the seas as a convenient location in which to dump hazardous waste — including radioactive waste — charging for the service and pocketing the profits. An Italian NGO, Legambiente, suspects that about 40 ships loaded with toxic and radioactive waste have disappeared in Mediterranean waters since 1994. If true, these allegations paint a worrying picture of an unknown amount of nuclear waste in the Mediterranean whose true danger will only become clear when the hundreds of barrels degrade or somehow otherwise break open. The beauty of the Mediterranean Sea may well be concealing an environmental catastrophe in the making.


8. The Somalian Coast


http://media.brainz.org/uploads/2011/09/somalia_barrel_toxic.jpgThe Italian mafia organization just mentioned has not just stayed in its own region when it comes to this sinister business. There are also allegations that Somalian waters and soil, unprotected by government, have been used for the sinking or burial of nuclear waste and toxic metals — including 600 barrels of toxic and nuclear waste, as well as radioactive hospital waste. Indeed, the United Nations’ Environment Program believes that the rusting barrels of waste washed up on the Somalian coastline during the 2004 Tsunami were dumped as far back as the 1990s. The country is already an anarchic wasteland, and the effects of this waste on the impoverished population could be as bad if not worse than what they have already experienced.


7. Mayak, Russia


http://media.brainz.org/uploads/2011/09/018_mayak_nuclear.jpgThe industrial complex of Mayak, in Russia's north-east, has had a nuclear plant for decades, and in 1957 was the site of one of the world’s worst nuclear accidents. Up to 100 tons of radioactive waste were released by an explosion, contaminating a massive area. The explosion was kept under wraps until the 1980s. Starting in the 1950s, waste from the plant was dumped in the surrounding area and into Lake Karachay. This has led to contamination of the water supply that thousands rely on daily. Experts believe that Karachay may be the most radioactive place in the world, and over 400,000 people have been exposed to radiation from the plant as a result of the various serious incidents that have occurred — including fires and deadly dust storms. The natural beauty of Lake Karachay belies its deadly pollutants, with the radiation levels where radioactive waste flows into its waters enough to give a man a fatal dose within an hour.
6. Sellafield, UK


http://media.brainz.org/uploads/2011/09/sellafield-9852b.jpgLocated on the west coast of England, Sellafield was originally a plutonium production facility for nuclear bombs, but then moved into commercial territory. Since the start of its operation, hundreds of accidents have occurred at the plant, and around two thirds of the buildings themselves are now classified as nuclear waste. The plant releases some 8 million liters of contaminated waste into the sea on a daily basis, making the Irish Sea the most radioactive sea in the world. England is known for its green fields and rolling landscapes, but nestled in the heart of this industrialized nation is a toxic, accident-prone facility, spewing dangerous waste into the oceans of the world.


5. Siberian Chemical Combine, Russia


http://media.brainz.org/uploads/2011/09/siberia.jpgMayak is not the only contaminated site in Russia; Siberia is home to a chemical facility that contains over four decades' worth of nuclear waste. Liquid waste is stored in uncovered pools and poorly maintained containers hold over 125,000 tons of solid waste, while underground storage has the potential to leak to groundwater. Wind and rain have spread the contamination to wildlife and the surrounding area. And various minor accidents have led to plutonium going missing and explosions spreading radiation. While the snowy landscape may look pristine and immaculate, the facts make clear the true level of pollution to be found here.
4. The Polygon, Kazakhstan


http://media.brainz.org/uploads/2011/09/kazakhstan-map.jpgOnce the location for the Soviet Union’s nuclear weapons testing, this area is now part of modern-day Kazakhstan. The site was earmarked for the Soviet atomic bomb project due to its “uninhabited” status — despite the fact that 700,000 people lived in the area. The facility was where the USSR detonated its first nuclear bomb and is the record-holder for the place with the largest concentration of nuclear explosions in the world: 456 tests over 40 years from 1949 to 1989. While the testing carried out at the facility — and its impact in terms of radiation exposure — were kept under wraps by the Soviets until the facility closed in 1991, scientists estimate that 200,000 people have had their health directly affected by the radiation. The desire to destroy foreign nations has led to the specter of nuclear contamination hanging over the heads of those who were once citizens of the USSR.


3. Mailuu-Suu, Kyrgyzstan


http://media.brainz.org/uploads/2011/09/knapp3.jpgConsidered one of the top ten most polluted sites on Earth by the 2006 Blacksmith Institute report, the radiation at Mailuu-Suu comes not from nuclear bombs or power plants, but from mining for the materials needed in the processes they entail. The area was home to a uranium mining and processing facility and is now left with 36 dumps of uranium waste — over 1.96 million cubic meters. The region is also prone to seismic activity, and any disruption of the containment could expose the material or cause some of the waste to fall into rivers, contaminating water used by hundreds of thousands of people. These people may not ever suffer the perils of nuclear attack, but nonetheless they have good reason to live in fear of radioactive fallout every time the earth shakes.


2. Chernobyl, Ukraine


http://media.brainz.org/uploads/2011/09/20110317012357%21chernobyl_disaster.jpgHome to one of the world’s worst and most infamous nuclear accidents, Chernobyl is still heavily contaminated, despite the fact that a small number of people are now allowed into the area for a limited amount of time. The notorious accident caused over 6 million people to be exposed to radiation, and estimates as to the number of deaths that will eventually occur due to the Chernobyl accident range from 4,000 to as high as 93,000. The accident released 100 times more radiation than the Nagasaki and Hiroshima bombs. Belarus absorbed 70 percent of the radiation, and its citizens have been dealing with increased cancer incidence ever since. Even today, the word Chernobyl conjures up horrifying images of human suffering.


1. Fukushima, Japan


http://media.brainz.org/uploads/2011/09/fukushima-reactor.jpgThe 2011 earthquake and tsunami was a tragedy that destroyed homes and lives, but the effects of the Fukushima nuclear power plant may be the most long-lasting danger. The worst nuclear accident since Chernobyl, the incident caused meltdown of three of the six reactors, leaking radiation into the surrounding area and the sea, such that radiative material has been detected as far as 200 miles from the plant. As the incident and its ramifications are still unfolding, the true scale of the environmental impact is still unknown. The world may still be feeling the effects of this disaster for generations to come.




http://brainz.org/ten-most-radioactive-places-earth/

Serpo
23rd September 2011, 02:48 PM
Exactly my point.
ie no one really knows what to do.

I do agree that being aware is good and that these power plants should have never been built.


No nuclear power plants should of been built ever in my opinion for a number of reasons.

Cannot dispose of waste even now.

Need power even when not operating to cool which turns them into gigantic bombs waiting to go of.

Over 400 of them on the planet ,a lot are too old also and a lot have leaked and will leak radiation in some form.

Serpo
23rd September 2011, 02:52 PM
I am 61 tipping into 62 years living on this rock of a planet. Have seen alot.

At my age, What in the hell is going to kill me, and do I care?

You younger ones can run scared, but for myself I ask Is it worth it?

For me No, For you only you can answer that question!

I know I have a date with death, anytime . Sooner than later!

For the young , think about it...http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbjjn6IHQ31qe5h09o1_500.jpg

Still but a pup dogman still just a pup............hahahahaa




http://www.myfreewallpapers.net/nature/wallpapers/beagle-puppy.jpg

Joe King
23rd September 2011, 02:53 PM
I agree. They should have never been built. None of them.
The downside when it goes wrong, is just too huge.

Serpo
23rd September 2011, 03:18 PM
I agree. They should have never been built. None of them.
The downside when it goes wrong, is just too huge.

Yes ,we would still be better of burning candles

Serpo
25th September 2011, 05:17 AM
Mystery Yellow Powder Found After Japan Hurricane


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Posted by Mochizuki on September 22nd, 2011 ·
http://www.armageddononline.org/images/japan-typhoon.jpg (http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/09/news-japan-after-the-typhoon/web-roke/)
After the typhoon hit Fukushima,massive scale of contamination is detected.
It has been about 21.0 uSv/h around in Futabamachi all day long.

Even NHK reported that they detected double amount of cesium in the sea around reactor 3.
www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20110921/k10015758171000.html (http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20110921/k10015758171000.html)
(Though this article reports the radiation level of around reactor 3,it mentions only cesium amount around reactor 2.)
Also,Tepco reported they found the water level was raised by about 44 cm in the basement floor of reactor 1.
headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20110922-00000053-jij-soci (http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20110922-00000053-jij-soci)
However,in Onagawa nuc plant ,which is about 100km north to Fukushima plant, 2800 tons of water flowed in the the basement floor.
Looking from this flooding in Onagawa nuc plant,it is natural to assume that the same or even worse scale of flooding happened to each reactor of Fukushima plant.
headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20110922-00000554-san-soci (http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20110922-00000554-san-soci)
There are also a lot of the forum posts to report illness after touching the rain too.
MORE HERE (http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/09/news-japan-after-the-typhoon/)


http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1141/864/Mystery_Yellow_Powder_Found_After_Japan_Hurricane. html

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/tepco-it-may-be-100-hydrogen-gas-inside.html

Serpo
25th September 2011, 04:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNSrCXeQJEo&feature=player_embedded#!


http://australiancannonball.com/2011/09/25/nuclear-catastrophes-are-waiting-to-happen-in-the-us/

gunDriller
27th September 2011, 06:31 AM
Futabamachi

Futabamachi ?

PatColo
27th September 2011, 06:46 AM
finally a new Shimatsu mp3 @ rense, he didn't post one last week,

NEW
Yoichi Shimatsu
Japan Update 9.26.11
Free MP3 - Listen
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/audio_icon.gif (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Shimatsu_092611.mp3)

Fukushima - Farmers Struggle With Radiation (http://australiancannonball.com/2011/09/27/fukushima-farmers-struggle-with-radiation/)
Fukushima Radiation Levels Unknown To Humans, Machines (http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20110925/OPINION/109250351/Global-resources-needed-combat-radiation-levels)
New Japan Cell Phone To Also Detect Radiation (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/radiation-in-japan-docomo-to-introduce.html)
Fukushima Evacuation-Ready Zones Abolished On 9-30-11 (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/radiation-in-japan-evacuation-ready.html)
'This Is BAD' - 10.80 Microsieverts On Train In Tokyo (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/radioactive-train-in-tokyo-metropolitan.html) - Vid
Fukushima Getting Worse - Tokyo Becoming Uninhabitable? (http://rense.com/general94/fukuu.htm)
Message From The Fukushima Fallout Zone (http://australiancannonball.com/2011/09/26/message-from-fukushima-fallout-zone/) - Vid
Steam Rising From Fukushima Reactors 3 And 4 (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-steam-rising.html) - Vid
TEPCO - May Be 100% Hydrogen Gas In Reactor One Pipe (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/tepco-it-may-be-100-hydrogen-gas-inside.html)
High Levels Radiation Found In More Fukushima Rice (http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110924p2a00m0na017000c.html)
Orientation For The TEPCO Video For Reactor 3 (http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/news/110311/images/110924_02.zip) - Vid
TEPCO Handout About The Video (http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_110924_02-e.pdf%CAmore) - pdf
105,600 Bq/kg Cesium On Apt Rooftop In Yokohama! (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/105600-bqkg-of-radioactive-cesium-from.html)
Cry For Help By Teachers, Students In Fukushima (http://australiancannonball.com/2011/09/24/cry-for-help-by-teachers-and-kids-in-fukushima/)


10 Most Radioactive Places On Earth (http://brainz.org/ten-most-radioactive-places-earth/)
Canada Says Fish Test Rad-Free - Suspicions Grow (http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2011/09/fish-tests-radiation-negative-but-wheres-it-from/)
Plutonium May Be Flowing All The Way To West Coast (http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/09/breaking-news-we-are-running-out-of-time/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FukushimaDiary+%28Fukushima+D iary%29)
Massive Tokyo Anti-Nuke Rally Mocked By Japan MSM (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/photographs-of-60000-strong-anti-nuke.html)
Japan Schools To Program Kids About Radiation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeV0j06jAWA&feature=uploademail) - Vid
BAD NEWS - St. Louis Rainwater 133x Normal Background (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRLabU6TVRY) - Vid
Np 239 Detected In St Louis 9/14/11 Radioactive Rainfall? (http://australiancannonball.com/2011/09/17/maximum-alert-neptunium-239-potentially-detected-in-saint-louis-91411-radioactive-rainfall/)
Japan To Promote Use Of Potentially Radioactive Lumber (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/potentially-radioactive-lumber-to-be.html)
'Non-Intrusive' Radiation Scanners For Heathrow (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2034011/Non-intrusive-scanners-spare-travellers-blushes-Heathrow--turning-stick-men.html)
Rense & Michael Collins - Fukushima Radiation In Our Food (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We50AVrTMk8) - Vid
Video Shows US West Drenched By Fukushima Radiation (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/map-of-cesium-137-deposition-across.html) - Vid
Radioactive Fill 10x Over Background Used On Niagara Roads (http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/niagara/Concerns-over-Falls-road-fill-radiation)
HI Testing For Radiation At Kaneohe Sandbar (http://www.khon2.com/news/local/story/State-testing-for-radioactive-contamination-at/3e_axVWUcUOvo8HeB4iL9Q.cspx)
More... (http://rense.com/Datapages/radiationdat.htm)

PatColo
28th September 2011, 10:40 PM
Prof. Chris Busby: The Sinister Plan to Hide the Japanese Nuclear Genocide (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1160/449/Prof._Chris_Busby:_The_Sinister_Plan_to_Hide_the_J apanese_Nuclear_Genocide.html)


Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:23

(I see this was posted to YT on 9/22)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2xBc43eD28


Uploaded by 58784677 (http://www.youtube.com/user/58784677) on Sep 22, 2011
Spread Professor Chris Busby's message about Japan and the nuclear industry's intentional coverup of Fukushima radioactive problem, how Japan is trucking tons of radioactive waste to south Japan, etc. Prof. Busby has been working on making supplements that block some of the radioactive nucleotides from attaching themselves to the DNA.

See also:
Arnie and Maggie Gundersen/Fairewinds Associates (Mr. Gundersen, a nuclear engineer and a former nuclear industry executive, is an unequalled US expert on nuclear energy and nuclear industry problems):
http://www.fairewinds.com/
http://www.youtube.com/user/fairewindsenergy

Websites recommended by Arnold Gundersen:
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/04/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-japan-nuclear.html
http://enenews.com/

Nuclear Regulatory Commission daily reports (what's happening at nuclear plants near you):
http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/event-status/event/2011/index.html

Fukushima links (Fukushima Daiichi live and a YouTube compressed version):
http://lucaswhitefieldhixson.com/lucaswebcamwatch.html
http://www.youtube.com/user/fuku1live
http://atmc.jp/fuku1/#v=C4Xfo23IBaM
http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/f1-np/camera/index-j.html

Radiation measured in water and air at Fukushima plant:
http://www9.nhk.or.jp/kabun-blog/500/

Weather (radiation flow) from Fukushima:
http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_alt.cgi?a=glob_250
http://www.meteocentrale.ch/en/weather/weather-extra/weather-in-japan.html

Dr. Helen Caldicott (latest interview with Arnold Gundersen):
http://ifyoulovethisplanet.org/?p=4952

beefsteak
29th September 2011, 01:35 AM
PatColo,

THANKS for the Yoichi Shimatsu MP3 from Monday, the subsequent hyperlink/headlines you posted from that second site, and now this AM's Busby vid and additional links. I'm arthritic knees' deep into bathroom remodel here, hoping to complete the 3 days of re-plumbing myself today, and will get on this. My personal deadline is to have the bathroom up to snuff before the opening of MOX reactor 3 here in a very few days. Please PLEASE keep the thread posted if you see any news regarding this "opening" promised several weeks ago, from TEPCO.

In fact, I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who is able to view those live shots from Fuku via satellite streaming live, to help me and the rest of us keep track of where/what this Fuku#3 is up to.

Anecdotes:
.....My carpenter got careless yesterday and laid all my 2x4s onto the ground. These are unusable inside my dwelling, and I have to go replace them today and save these for non-internal usage! DARN!
I explained it to him; he doesn't "get it." :( He's a creature of habit and I'm paying extra.

....Instead of the old mantra, "watch and pray"...I'm "workin' and prayin' " All are welcome to join in this mutual effort.

....We're especially interested in anything Busby comes up with in the way of supplements to deter radionuclides from attaching to DNA.

....In the way of additional positive news around here, we've just discovered flax seed is very easy to sprout. Just leave it--forgotten of course--down in the bottom of one's refrigerator in the "crisper drawers' section. ;D


beefsteak

MNeagle
1st October 2011, 09:07 PM
Plutonium detected outside N-plant site

The Yomiuri Shimbun
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/photo/DY20111002103310797L0.jpg



Plutonium believed to have been released from the crippled Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant after the March 11 earthquake has been detected outside the power plant site for the first time, it has been learned.

One of the spots found contaminated with the hazardous substance is 45 kilometers from the plant.

A map released by the Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology Ministry on Friday shows plutonium was found in soil samples taken from a total of six locations in Futabamachi, Namiemachi and Iitatemura, Fukushima Prefecture.

The map is based on a survey conducted by the ministry to determine how much soil around the power plant contains plutonium and strontium, which is also a hazardous radioactive substance.

However, a ministry official said because amounts of both substances were very small, decontamination efforts should focus on radioactive cesium.
The survey was conducted in June and July by sampling soil at 100 locations around the plant. The ministry compared the data obtained from the survey with data obtained in surveys conducted from fiscal 1999 to fiscal 2008 to measure the residual effects of radioactive fallout on Japan from nuclear atmospheric tests conducted during the Cold War.

The six spots where plutonium was detected are all in the no-entry zone, within a 20-kilometer radius of the plant, or in the expanded evacuation zone outside the no-entry zone, which may be exposed to more than 20 millisieverts of radioactive substances within a year from the accident.

Four becquerels per square meter of plutonium-238 was detected at one site in Namiemachi in the latest survey. This is about half of the maximum quantity of 8 becquerels detected in the 1999-2008 surveys.

A preliminary ministry calculation shows that the level of plutonium contamination in Namiemachi will remain at 0.027 millisieverts for about 50 years. The other five spots were contaminated with 0.55 to 2.3 becquerels of plutonium.

The farthest spot from the plant where plutonium was detected was in Iitatemura, about 45 kilometers from the plant.

Meanwhile, strontium-89 and strontium-90, both believed to have been released from the power plant, were detected at 45 spots.

The maximum quantity of strontium-90, whose half-life of about 29 years is much longer than the approximately 50-day half-life of strontium-89, was 5,700 becquerels per square meter detected in Futabamachi. This is six times that of the maximum quantity of 950 becquerels found before the Fukushima plant accident.

(Oct. 2, 2011)

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T111001002464.htm

keehah
2nd October 2011, 08:35 PM
Fukushima’s Contamination Produces Some Surprises at Sea (http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/28/fukushimas-contamination-produces-some-surprises-at-sea/)
NYTimes: September 28, 2011, 5:11 PM

Off the coast, the early results indicate that very large amounts of radioactive materials were released, and may still be leaking, and that rather than being spread through the whole ocean, currents are keeping a lot of the material concentrated.

Most of that contamination came from attempts to cool the reactors and spent fuel pools, which flushed material from the plant into the ocean, and from direct leaks from the damaged facilities.

Japanese government and utility industry scientists estimated this month that 3,500 terabecquerels of cesium 137 was released directly into the sea from March 11, the date of the earthquake and tsunami, to late May. Another 10,000 terabecquerels of cesium 137 made it into the ocean after escaping from the plant as steam.

The leakage very likely isn’t over, either. The Tokyo Electric Power Company, the operator of the plant, said Sept. 20 that it believed that something on the order of 200 to 500 tons a day of groundwater might still be pouring into the damaged reactor and turbine buildings.

Ken Buesseler, a scientist at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, who in 1986 studied the effects of the Chernobyl disaster on the Black Sea, said the Fukushima disaster appeared to be by far the largest accidental release of radioactive material into the sea.

Chernobyl-induced radiation in the Black Sea peaked in 1986 at about 1,000 becquerels per cubic meter, he said in an interview at his office in Woods Hole, Mass. By contrast, the radiation level off the coast near the Fukushima Daiichi plant peaked at more than 100,000 becquerels per cubic meter in early April.

Before Fukushima, in 2010, the Japanese coast measured about 1.5 becquerel per cubic meter, he said...

“When we saw the numbers — hundreds of millions of becquerels — we knew this was the largest delivery of radiation into the ocean ever seen,’’ he said. ‘‘We still don’t know how much was released.’’

Mr. Buesseler took samples of about five gallons, filtered out the naturally occurring materials and the materials from nuclear weapon explosions, and measured what was left.

The scientists had expected to find ocean radiation levels falling off sharply after a few months, as radioactive substances were dispersed by the currents, because, he said, “The ocean’s solution to pollution is dilution.’’

The good news is that researchers found the entire region 20 to 400 miles offshore had radiation levels too low to be an immediate threat to humans.

But there was also an unpleasant surprise. “Rather than leveling off toward zero, it remained elevated in late July,’’ he said, up to about 10,000 becquerel per cubic meter. ‘‘That suggests the release problem has not been solved yet.”

The working hypothesis is that contaminated sediments and groundwater near the coast are continuing to contaminate the seas, he said.

The international team also collected plankton samples and small fish for study. Mr. Buesseler said there were grounds for concern about bioaccumulation of radioactive isotopes in the food chain, particularly in seaweed and some shellfish close to the plants. A fuller understanding of the effect on fish that are commercially harvested will probably take several years of data following several feeding cycles, he said.

‘‘We also don’t know concentrations in sediments, so benthic biota may be getting higher doses and if consumed (shellfish), could be of concern,’’ he wrote later in an e-mail, referring to organisms that dwell on the sea floor.

The study also found that the highest cesium values were not necessarily from the samples collected closest to Fukushima, he said, because eddies in the ocean currents keep the material from being diluted in some spots farther offshore.

The overall results were consistent with those previously found by Japanese scientists, Mr. Buesseler said.

He said more research was urgently needed to answer several questions, including why the level of contamination offshore near the plant was so high.
_______________

From an earlier link:
http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2011/09/fish-tests-radiation-negative-but-wheres-it-from/

The Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CIFA) has deemed fish tested in the wake of the Japan nuclear disaster as radiation free, but will not divulge where samples were taken from.

According to the CFIA, results from 12 fish samples showed minimal detectable levels of the radioactive particles Cesium -134 and Cesium -137. The results are below Health Canada’s “actionable levels,” said CFIA spokesperson Mark Clarke. The CFIA released the results of its tests on Friday, September 16.

West Coast salmon migration routes are near waters that are feared contaminated with radioactive fallout from the nuclear reactor that was damaged by the earthquake and subsequent tsunami in Japan last spring. The agency did not answer repeated questions about where the samples were taken from in B.C., saying only that they were came from various processing stations.

The testing was done just as a precaution, authorities said. They had not expected to find anything. They waited till now because, although the twin disasters happened in March, the fish did not return to spawn until now.

Stó:lō Tribal Council fisheries advisor Ernie Crey said he is puzzled at the agency’s reticence about where the fish were taken from.

“It’s this kind of response from government officials that give rise to suspicion among Canadians,” Crey told Indian Country Today Media Network. “There is simply no good reason to withhold this information from the public.”..

CFIA will continue to monitor the situation in Japan and assess impacts on Canada’s food supply. But “no additional testing is planned,” CFIA spokesperson Alice d’Anjou said.

Horn
2nd October 2011, 10:57 PM
Japan's hula girls reopen resort near Fukushima



http://images.smh.com.au/2011/04/14/2306095/art_Japan-Hula-420x0.jpg

Japanese hula girls, who helped revive a former coal mining town as a Hawaii-themed spa, have returned to the resort as it reopened nearly seven months after it was damaged by the March 11 earthquake.
They danced to 21 songs, often in tears, in a "Polynesian Show" as some 700 guests cheered at the Spa Resort Hawaiians, 180 kilometres north of Tokyo, as it reopened for business on Saturday, according to local media.
The resort has attracted an annual 1.5 million visitors in recent years, including many from China and South Korea.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-news/japans-hula-girls-reopen-resort-near-fukushima-20111003-1l4f8.html#ixzz1ZhAx8ZXM

PatColo
3rd October 2011, 03:18 AM
paste-job loses paragraph breaks, read at rense:

Secret US-Israeli Nuke Transfers
Led To Fukushima Blasts (http://www.rense.com/general94/secbb.htm)
By Yoichi Shimatsu A Rense World Exclusive Copyright 2001 - All Rights Reserved
10-2-11 Sixteen tons and what you get is a nuclear catastrophe. The explosions that rocked the Fukushima No.1 nuclear plant were more powerful than the combustion of hydrogen gas, as claimed by the Tokyo Electric Power Company. The actual cause of the blasts, according to intelligence sources in Washington, was nuclear fission of. warhead cores illegally taken from America's sole nuclear-weapons assembly facility. Evaporation in the cooling pools used for spent fuel rods led to the detonation of stored weapons-grade plutonium and uranium.

http://www.rense.com/general94/secbb.htm

beefsteak
3rd October 2011, 06:14 AM
Wish I could say that this report is surprising, PatColo, but I can't. It's SICKENING!!!

Not much of a secret anymore.

Yoichi Shimatsu is considerably vetted over what 2 decades minimally as a responsible and credible journalist. This is an amazing, must read article you posted. Thank you!


beefsteak

gunDriller
3rd October 2011, 07:02 AM
it's a great article, though i think certain statements that are presented as fact should be labelled as hunch.

"Firewalls kept Stuxnet at bay until the Tohoku earthquake. The seismic activity felled an electricity tower behind Reactor 6. The power cut disrupted the control system, momentarily taking down the firewall. As the computer came online again, Stuxnet infiltrated to shut down the back-up generators. During the 20-minute interval between quake and tsunami, the pumps and valves at Fukushima No.1 were immobilized, exposing the turbine rooms to flood damage."

how can Shimatsu know that Stuxnet attacked Fukushima #1 ? he can deduce it, but to state affirmatively, "Stuxnet infiltrated to shut down the back-up generators" - he's talking about an Israeli attack on Japan and, effectively, the World.

not that i am one to defend Israel - but how could Shimatsu know that Stuxnet immobilized the F#1 cooling system, rather than quake & tidal wave damage ? it was the kind of incident that destroys evidence - what's left is piles of twisted pipes, radiation everywhere, broken buildings.


"As his Russian card suggested, Abe was shopping for enriched uranium. At 99.9 percent purity, American-made uranium and plutonium is the world's finest nuclear material. The lack of mineral contaminants means that it cannot be traced back to its origin. In contrast, material from Chinese and Russian labs can be identified by impurities introduced during the enrichment process."

/\ this i don't get. it says that 99.9% pure uranium & plutonium are by signature American (or Israeli, though my guess is, Israel would have introduced contaminants to point the finger away from them when they do use nukes.)

oh well, something .999 that won't be available at APMex.


overall, i think what Shimatsu is saying fits the other pieces of the puzzle. i thought Obama's strange silence about Fukushima may have been related to not wanting to crash an already-fragile US economy.

in general, Japan & America's silence about Fukushima does indicate a cover-up.

i just wish Shimatsu would label fact as fact & guesses as guesses. e.g., Japan's pre-Fukushima vote about Palestine would be public record, i.e. a fact.

Serpo
3rd October 2011, 04:01 PM
http://p.twipple.jp/data/k/C/N/d/7.jpg

Serpo
3rd October 2011, 04:02 PM
above post is deformed rats Tokyo

http://p.twipple.jp/kCNd7

osoab
3rd October 2011, 04:57 PM
above post is deformed rats Tokyo

http://p.twipple.jp/kCNd7


They look like young ones. The tails on the last two could have been bit off.

Golden
4th October 2011, 06:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH8Xfv9KiO0&feature
http://enenews.com/professor-believe-going-nightmare-im-afraid-dealt-fatal-blow-japan-japan-lost-future-video

SOURCE: Coast To Coast AM, September 29, 2011

Frank E. Daulton, Ph.D. — Professor of Economics and Linguistics at Ryukoku University in Kyoto — interviewed by Linda Moulton Howe.

At 11:55 in

In my family, we don’t eat fish anymore. My wife is Japanese. My children have grown up as Japanese. For Japanese people to stop eating fish is a huge adjustment. Just as 9/11 changed everything -- especially in the United States -- 3/11 that happened ten years later -- 3/11 has changed everything in Japan. And I’m just afraid this has dealt a near-fatal blow to Japan. Japan will never be the same.

Serpo
5th October 2011, 02:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCN-c4yd2LM&feature=player_embedded#!

Dr. Helen Caldicott joins Arnie Gundersen & Christopher Busby Against Nuclear Power Reactors

beefsteak
5th October 2011, 03:34 PM
Thanks, Serpo!

Thought you'd abandoned us. Good Vid you posted. What a triumvirate, eh?

beefsteak
6th October 2011, 06:22 AM
Found some notes I took on the Yoichi Shimatsu - Rense interview labeled 9.26.2011 and PatColo thoughtfully posted here, that merit attention.

Rather detailed discussion wrt Black Current and all the offshoots/split aparts thereof early in the MP3.

Yoichi makes mention of "massive SQUID" [numbers] (for real, not the goldman sachs kind) washing ashore in California. 3min 45sec Can anyone provide any local radio/TV coverage from West Coast sources on this?? Yoichi very definitely states calamari should be removed from American menu. Sounds like practical advice. It had an okay taste, but has never been one of my favorites, so this won't be any hardship 'round my house.

Japanese keep telling people that the currents won't return to Japan for 30 years. Well, that is true for ONE current (name escapes me) but for many of the shorter/quicker ones, that is NOT true. Perhaps SOLID or other seamen and seawomen could chime in here, yes? Rense brought up the fact that it has been proven and mentioned on this thread priorly that Tuna cross the ocean in 4 days.

Yoichi responded that human fish consumption should now be shifted to Atlantic seafood, and secondly to southern Pacific sourcings. Perhaps we could group-brainstorm and provide legit resources to this thread for sourcing safe seafood while we all do the dietary adjustments required to maximize our individual and family health requirements. ANYONE on the "east side" with Atlantic seafood connections? Any connections/reco to the So. Pacific seafood sources?

Probably the most startling fact Y.S. brought forward was a historical reference to this date:
APRIL 27, 2007 @CAMP DAVID SET THIS Israeli, USA, Japanese acquisition of US nuclear material using Zionist transport INTO MOTION...[21min 02 sec]

This date ring any bells with GSUS'ers? I'd never heard of it before Y.S. brought it forward.

Much emphasis was made by Y.S. of the "p/o'ed Israeli politicals" and their STUXNET attack on Fukushima in the 20 min. time window between 3/11 Quake and 3/11 Tsunami, when the powerline literally dropped behind Fuku as the result of the quake and the operations' firewall was disabled on 3/11. Clear that STUXNET is being "credited" with taking down the 40 some odd Nuclear Power Plants in Japan, due to the Israeli feeling betrayed b/c Japan switched strategies and openly supported Palestinian agenda against Israel.

I guess I slept through that world history event, as well. I knew about STUXNET and Brashear, Iran, but FUKUSHIMA? That was an eye-opener part of the interview.

So much for Camp David being a "presidential retreat"....


beefsteak

Golden
6th October 2011, 10:53 AM
http://www.rense.com/general94/secbb.htm

http://www.rense.com/general94/secbb.htm

Sixteen tons and what you get is a nuclear catastrophe. The explosions that rocked the Fukushima No.1 nuclear plant were more powerful than the combustion of hydrogen gas, as claimed by the Tokyo Electric Power Company. The actual cause of the blasts, according to intelligence sources in Washington, was nuclear fission of. warhead cores illegally taken from America's sole nuclear-weapons assembly facility. Evaporation in the cooling pools used for spent fuel rods led to the detonation of stored weapons-grade plutonium and uranium.

Golden
6th October 2011, 11:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma6PUpd6ePQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma6PUpd6ePQ
Uploaded by 58784677 on Apr 23, 2011


http://www.halfpasthuman.com/power.html

Golden
6th October 2011, 11:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8PJo8iXW0s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8PJo8iXW0s
Uploaded by MsMilkytheclown on Oct 5, 2011

MNeagle
6th October 2011, 12:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma6PUpd6ePQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma6PUpd6ePQ
Uploaded by 58784677 on Apr 23, 2011


http://www.halfpasthuman.com/power.html

Wow, that was enough doom for forever imo... egads!

Golden
7th October 2011, 10:20 AM
Dr. Ernest J. Sternglass on Nuclear Contamination and Cancer
"A Tsunami of Knowledge" Parts 1-3


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPO7Tft0YlQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPO7Tft0YlQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN7rcjSnxZs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN7rcjSnxZs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf5v83xnd1A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf5v83xnd1A

beefsteak
7th October 2011, 10:52 PM
Dateline Oct 8, 2011, London, The Economist

Radiation in Japan

Hot spots and blind spots

The mounting human costs of Japan’s nuclear disaster

Oct 8th 2011 | IITATE | from the print edition








CREST the hill into the village of Iitate, and the reading on a radiation dosimeter surges eightfold—even with the car windows shut. “Don’t worry, I’ve been coming here for months and I’m still alive,” chuckles Chohei Sato, chief of the village council, as he rolls down the window and inhales cheerfully. He pulls off the road, gets out of the car and buries the dosimeter in the grass. The reading doubles again.


Iitate is located 45km (28 miles) from the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant hit by a tsunami on March 11th this year. In the mountains above the town, the forests are turning the colour of autumn. But their beauty is deceptive. Every time a gust of wind blows, Mr Sato says it shakes invisible particles of radioactive caesium off the trees and showers them over the village. Radiation levels in the hills are so high that villagers dare not go near them. Mr Sato cannot bury his father’s bones, which he keeps in an urn in his abandoned farmhouse, because of the dangers of going up the hill to the graveyard.


Iitate had the misfortune to be caught by a wind that carried radioactive particles (including plutonium) much farther than anybody initially expected after the nuclear disaster. Almost all the 6,000 residents have been evacuated, albeit belatedly, because it took the government months to decide that some villages outside a 30km radius of the plant warranted special attention. Now it offers an extreme example of how difficult it will be to recover from the disaster.



http://media.economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/290-width/images/print-edition/20111008_ASM935.gif
That is mainly because of the enormous spread of radiation. Recently the government said it needed to clear about 2,419 square kilometres of contaminated soil—an area larger than greater Tokyo—that received an annual radiation dose of at least five millisieverts, or over 0.5 microsieverts an hour. That covered an area far beyond the official 30km restriction zone (see map). Besides pressure- hosing urban areas, this would involve removing about 5cm of topsoil from local farms as well as all the dead leaves in caesium-laden forests.


However, Iitate’s experience suggests the government may be underestimating the task. Villagers have removed 5cm of topsoil from one patch of land, but because radioactive particles continue to blow from the surrounding trees, the level of radiation remains high—about one microsievert an hour—even if lower than in nearby areas. Without cutting down the forests, Mr Sato reckons there will be a permanent risk of contamination. So far, nobody has any idea where any contaminated soil will be dumped.


The second problem is children’s health. On September 30th the government lifted an evacuation advisory warning to communities within a 20-30km radius of the plant. The aim was partly to show that the authorities were steadily bringing the crippled reactors under control.


But these areas are still riddled with radiation hot spots, including schools and public parks, which will need to be cleaned before public confidence is restored. Parents say they are particularly concerned about bringing their children back because the health effects of radiation on the young are so unclear.



What is more, caesium particles tend to lurk in the grass, which means radiation is more of a risk at toddler height than for adults. In Iitate, Mihori Takahashi, a mother of two, “believes only half of what the doctors say” and says she never wants to bring her children back. That, in itself, may be a curse. “The revival of this town depends on the children returning,” says Mr Sato.


And even if people return, Mr Sato worries how they will make a living. These are farming villages, but it will take years to remove the stigma attached to food grown in Fukushima, he reckons. He is furious with Tokyo Electric Power, operator of the plant, for failing to acknowledge the long-term impacts of the disaster. He says it is a way of scrimping on compensation payouts.


One way to help overcome these problems would be to persuade people to accept relaxed safety standards. A government panel is due to propose lifting the advisory dose limit above one millisievert per year. This week in Tokyo, Wade Allison, a physics professor at Oxford University, argued that Japan’s dose limit could safely be raised to 100 millisieverts, based on current health statistics.



Outside Mr Sato’s house, however, a reading of the equivalent of 150 millisieverts a year left your correspondent strangely reluctant to inhale.

beefsteak
8th October 2011, 10:07 PM
Saturday night review of ENEnews reveals multiple reported incidences of fatal dosing of workers @ Fuku 1-6 since 3/11/2011 Like any good iceberg, this is only the tip of the fatalities. God have mercy.

Related Posts



More on Dead Fukushima Nuke Worker: Internal radiation level unknown since early Sept. — “Died suddenly” — TEPCO not revealing cause (http://enenews.com/more-on-dead-fukushima-nuke-worker-internal-radiation-level-unknown-since-early-sept-died-suddenly-tepco-not-revealing-cause) October 7, 2011

3rd Fukushima Nuke Worker Dead (http://enenews.com/3rd-fukushima-nuke-worker-dead) October 6, 2011

SOURCE: East Power workers, the possibility of internal traced Fukushima No. 1 (http://www.nikkei.com/news/latest/article/g=96958A9C93819695E2EAE2E3988DE2EAE3E2E0E2E3E3E2E2 E2E2E2E2) Nikkei, October 8, 2011


Google Translation
TEPCO is 08, the internal exposure of male workers in their 30s (exposure) may have announced. That men had been working in the field confirm that occurred the same day desalination water leakage in the first nuclear power plant in Fukushima. To conduct detailed investigation on whole-body counter to measure radiation dose.


External dose 0.13 mSv per hour male rays, beta radiation was 0.50 mSv per hour. Completed the verification process of the leakage and contamination of the physical examination was conducted, chin and neck, showed that the radioactive material deposited on the surface of the mask.

SOURCE: News: Another worker got exposed (http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/10/news-another-worker-got-exposed/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FukushimaDiary+%28Fukushima+D iary%29), Fukushima Diary by Mochizuki, October 8, 2011
Tepco announced that a male worker in his 30s was exposed to high level of radiation. It is likely that he had a severe internal exposure too.


He was checking the water leakage around the water purifying system today. [...]


After finishing his task, they found radioactive material attached to his jaw, neck and on mask. [...]
As of: October 7, 8th, 2011 | Category: Fukushima Reactors (http://enenews.com/category/japan/fukushima-reactors)

Serpo
10th October 2011, 03:15 AM
M http://enenews.com/category/japan
Mag: Strontium-90 found 245 km from meltdowns in Yokohama City — 150 times background… DEVELOPING

19 comments
October 9th, 2011 at 01:58 PM
Radioactive fallout in rain 10 times more than originally reported

23 comments
October 9th, 2011 at 11:10 AM
Report: More plant mutations observed — Cases on the rise (PHOTOS & VIDEO)

55 comments
October 9th, 2011 at 09:50 AM
Japan Times: Cesium levels spiking with unusually high amount of fallout in Okutama, Tokyo up to 300,000 Bq/m² — Home to World’s largest drinking water reservoir of its kind, built to supply Tokyo

88 comments
October 9th, 2011 at 08:01 AM
TEPCO uses radioactive water from Reactors No. 5 and 6 to spray throughout Fukushima plant — Over 100 tons a day — Tanks close to overflowing

19 comments
October 8th, 2011 at 02:44 PM
Report: Tokyo tap water in crisis? Comes from area that is radioactive as Chernobyl’s ‘contaminated areas’ — 100,000-300,000 Bq/kg

85 comments
October 8th, 2011 at 02:33 PM
Another Fukushima worker exposed to high level of radiation — Radioactive material attached to jaw, neck — Severe internal exposure likely

17 comments
October 8th, 2011 at 08:47 AM
Tokyo gov’t finds at least 5 times higher cesium levels than Japan gov’t — Over 50,000 Bq/m² near city center (PHOTOS)

47 comments
October 8th, 2011 at 07:59 AM
Fox: TEPCO releasing hydrogen “to prevent an explosion” at Reactor No. 1 — “Generated by radiation that dissolved water”

31 comments
October 7th, 2011 at 07:23 PM
100% release of Unit No. 4 Spent Fuel Pool assumed in NRC analysis — 50% at Unit No. 3 pool

79 comments
October 7th, 2011 at 01:04 PM
Mayor: Gov’t radiation figures “not that trustworthy” — Whispers about “sky-high cesium-137 readings”

17 comments
October 7th, 2011 at 12:10 PM
Anonymous Fukushima Engineer: Another explosion at nuke plant possible — “It’s endless, endless – The task will never end”

39 comments
October 7th, 2011 at 11:23 AM
Tokyo: Cesium at triple gov’t limit in radioactive compost made by elementary school children — Using fallen leaves!

29 comments
October 7th, 2011 at 09:27 AM
Kyoto science prof: “Possibility that radiation will not only spread, but will start to accumulate in large concentrations”

56 comments
October 7th, 2011 at 08:44 AM
Osaka: 700 microsieverts of radiation from parts of bridge made in Koriyama — “Serious concern” from residents

7 comments
October 7th, 2011 at 07:41 AM
More on Dead Fukushima Nuke Worker: Internal radiation level unknown since early Sept. — “Died suddenly” — TEPCO not revealing cause

11 comments
October 7th, 2011 at 04:52 AM
Economist: “Enormous spread of radiation” — Levels so high in hills of Iitate that locals dare not go near — 150 millisieverts/yr outside official’s home

30 comments
October 6th, 2011 at 02:05 PM
Local Official: Radioactive forests a permanent risk, must be cut down — Every gust of wind showers cesium particles over village

59 comments
October 6th, 2011 at 11:59 AM
Nursery schools taking field trips so kids can play in areas with less radioactivity — 800% higher radiation dose at school

27 comments
October 6th, 2011 at 11:11 AM
First time since meltdowns: Surge in radioactive cesium levels cause incinerator near Tokyo to shut down

gunDriller
10th October 2011, 07:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCN-c4yd2LM&feature=player_embedded#!

Dr. Helen Caldicott joins Arnie Gundersen & Christopher Busby Against Nuclear Power Reactors

she's right about the nuclear industry, but why doesn't Helen C. say anything about thorium-fueled reactors ?

they boil water just as effectively as uranium & plutonium based reactors.

PatColo
10th October 2011, 07:47 AM
this is Shimatsu a week ago, he should be live guest again tonight, 3rd hour, look for mp3 posted @ rense beginning tomorrow sometime.

In this 10/3 audio they talk quite a bit about his nukes conspiracy article:

Japan Nuclear Disaster NEW
Yoichi Shimatsu
Japan Update 10.3.11
Free MP3 - Listen
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/audio_icon.gif (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Shimatsu_100311.mp3)

beefsteak
10th October 2011, 08:00 AM
Thanks, PatColo.

To my way of looking at things, digging into that April 2006 background basis for Y.Shimatsu's article is the sign of a true journalist, who still has his integrity intact. Journalists research and print facts. Facts can be checked by all who read what a journalist prints.

I'm off to listen now. Your consistency in posting these links, along with Serpo's consistency in research and posting and the MANNNNNNNY contributions of others on this thread are what makes this a remarkable and valuable venue.


beefsteak

Serpo
10th October 2011, 01:36 PM
http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/10/breaking-news-tokyo-on-the-edge/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:%20FukushimaDiary%20%28Fukushima %20Diary%29

Was a video first but in Japanese at link

In the simplest put, it’s over.
The amount was 195 Bq/kg.
Detected by a university staff teaching engineering, so the measurement is trustworthy.
It has nothing to do with the historical world-wide nuclear test, because it was measured on the roof of and apartment, which was built only 5 years ago.
Now the test result was sent to Yokohama city government.
Yokohama city government is supposed to pretend to re-measure it and say it’s not a harmful amount at all.
The location was randomly chosen. The person who randomly found it is very upset and confused.
It means strontium 90 is already all around in Tokyo area.
Ministry of Education and Science found strontium 79km area on 9/30.
They kept asserting Plutonium and Strontium don’t fly further than 80km because they don’t want them to fly so much.
Professor Nojiri Mihoko (HIGH ENERGY ACCELERATOR RESEARCH ORGANIZATION, KEK (http://soken.kek.jp/sokendai_en)) stated, plutonium, uranium, they never fly further than 20km by such a little explosion.
http://fukushima-diary.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/nojiri.jpg (http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/10/breaking-news-tokyo-on-the-edge/nojiri/)
If she is right, Strontium must have taken a cab.
However, Yokohama is 245km away from Fukushima.
Tokyo is closer to Fukushima actually.
Strontium 90 is soluble in water. It is easily taken by plants and it causes leukemia when people eat vegetables or seafood.
To prevent you from having thyroid disease ,you need to take iodine, such as seaweed. (Profoundly bad idea to eat any seafood or sea vegetables from Japan for the next 24,000 years, at least)
In addition to Iodine-131, seaweed from the waters around Japan contains Strontium.
Choose one of two. Thyroid cancer or leukemia?
On 9/30/2011 – Chief of the emergency radiation exposure protection team from National Institute of Radiological Sciences, Sugiura Shinsuke said, “Strontium doesn’t fly to Tokyo. It’s only cesium”

Serpo
10th October 2011, 01:39 PM
Dateline Oct 8, 2011, London, The Economist

Radiation in Japan

Hot spots and blind spots

The mounting human costs of Japan’s nuclear disaster

Oct 8th 2011 | IITATE | from the print edition










CREST the hill into the village of Iitate, and the reading on a radiation dosimeter surges eightfold—even with the car windows shut. “Don’t worry, I’ve been coming here for months and I’m still alive,” chuckles Chohei Sato, chief of the village council, as he rolls down the window and inhales cheerfully. He pulls off the road, gets out of the car and buries the dosimeter in the grass. The reading doubles again.


Iitate is located 45km (28 miles) from the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant hit by a tsunami on March 11th this year. In the mountains above the town, the forests are turning the colour of autumn. But their beauty is deceptive. Every time a gust of wind blows, Mr Sato says it shakes invisible particles of radioactive caesium off the trees and showers them over the village. Radiation levels in the hills are so high that villagers dare not go near them. Mr Sato cannot bury his father’s bones, which he keeps in an urn in his abandoned farmhouse, because of the dangers of going up the hill to the graveyard.


Iitate had the misfortune to be caught by a wind that carried radioactive particles (including plutonium) much farther than anybody initially expected after the nuclear disaster. Almost all the 6,000 residents have been evacuated, albeit belatedly, because it took the government months to decide that some villages outside a 30km radius of the plant warranted special attention. Now it offers an extreme example of how difficult it will be to recover from the disaster.



http://media.economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/290-width/images/print-edition/20111008_ASM935.gif
That is mainly because of the enormous spread of radiation. Recently the government said it needed to clear about 2,419 square kilometres of contaminated soil—an area larger than greater Tokyo—that received an annual radiation dose of at least five millisieverts, or over 0.5 microsieverts an hour. That covered an area far beyond the official 30km restriction zone (see map). Besides pressure- hosing urban areas, this would involve removing about 5cm of topsoil from local farms as well as all the dead leaves in caesium-laden forests.


However, Iitate’s experience suggests the government may be underestimating the task. Villagers have removed 5cm of topsoil from one patch of land, but because radioactive particles continue to blow from the surrounding trees, the level of radiation remains high—about one microsievert an hour—even if lower than in nearby areas. Without cutting down the forests, Mr Sato reckons there will be a permanent risk of contamination. So far, nobody has any idea where any contaminated soil will be dumped.


The second problem is children’s health. On September 30th the government lifted an evacuation advisory warning to communities within a 20-30km radius of the plant. The aim was partly to show that the authorities were steadily bringing the crippled reactors under control.


But these areas are still riddled with radiation hot spots, including schools and public parks, which will need to be cleaned before public confidence is restored. Parents say they are particularly concerned about bringing their children back because the health effects of radiation on the young are so unclear.



What is more, caesium particles tend to lurk in the grass, which means radiation is more of a risk at toddler height than for adults. In Iitate, Mihori Takahashi, a mother of two, “believes only half of what the doctors say” and says she never wants to bring her children back. That, in itself, may be a curse. “The revival of this town depends on the children returning,” says Mr Sato.


And even if people return, Mr Sato worries how they will make a living. These are farming villages, but it will take years to remove the stigma attached to food grown in Fukushima, he reckons. He is furious with Tokyo Electric Power, operator of the plant, for failing to acknowledge the long-term impacts of the disaster. He says it is a way of scrimping on compensation payouts.


One way to help overcome these problems would be to persuade people to accept relaxed safety standards. A government panel is due to propose lifting the advisory dose limit above one millisievert per year. This week in Tokyo, Wade Allison, a physics professor at Oxford University, argued that Japan’s dose limit could safely be raised to 100 millisieverts, based on current health statistics.



Outside Mr Sato’s house, however, a reading of the equivalent of 150 millisieverts a year left your correspondent strangely reluctant to inhale.

The proverbial seems to be hitting the fan .......caesium in the grass and blowing off trees....my God.....

beefsteak
10th October 2011, 02:20 PM
staggering!

LastResort
11th October 2011, 10:18 AM
Thanks for keeping this thread up to date guys! The horror show just keeps unfolding over there...

beefsteak
11th October 2011, 01:55 PM
Thanks for keeping this thread up to date guys! The horror show just keeps unfolding over there...

.....and here, and all points in between be they east or west, northerly or southerly.

The latest fuku irritation/mitigation around here is that my wife is on peanut butter strike. Acc'd to the news reports yesterday, the drought severely and negatively impacted the peanut crop harvest outcome from last year's crop here stateside.

The prices have already risen in the grocery store she's told me. But now, the mfgrs are hiking prices aka, go up virtually overnight by 20-40% Nov 1, 2011.

I don't know how to grow peanuts, just eat them. So she's decided to explore other seed crops and hoping to learn to make peanut butter substitute from plant seeds. She's pretty sure she can acquire pre-Fuku plant seeds which were grown prior to 3/11. She's even had me start a GS thread to help her kitchen education. What a gal. I don't know how I got so lucky!

The reason 3/11 enters into this scenario is not on the drought angle, but on the type of plant a peanut is: it is a "nitrogen fixing" aka legume plant. The soil is poisoned here in the US. No 2 ways about it. And I'm not the least bit interested in eating poisoned peanuts nor lathering poisoned peanut butter on my food. This legume nature of fixing nitrogen from a radioactive contaminated topsoil just doesn't float my boat.

As the news article said yesterday, peanut butter is a staple in recession times for lots of families. I grew up on the stuff. And really don't want to do without it if possible. Seems like such a simple pleasure, peanut butter and jelly, peanut butter and toast, peanut butter and carrots, etc. DAMN those HAARP players and their drought making weather machine! They just keep cranking up the pressure, and globally I might add. So, if this sounds like I'm ticked that TPTB are messing with my and all us peons' future peanut butter access....


beefsteak

LastResort
12th October 2011, 04:55 AM
Yup you're right beefsteak. No doubt its bad here too. I know I can't possibly avoid all of it, but I try my best. I've tried to give up a few things since Fuku started spewing Crap all over the northern hemisphere. Some things I can't live without. Not sure if you've tried it but I've been eating alot of organic Quinoa in the last 2 years. I think its aperfect post fukushima food. Its grown organically and in south america.

beefsteak
12th October 2011, 07:03 AM
Resort,
can't say as I've ever heard of it. Any recommended source for acquisition? The more direct, the better.

One of the things I've begun to notice is that mfgr code dates on canned foods which have been either 18 months to 2 years prior to 3/11/2011 according to their pre-Fukushima, have now been changed to 3 years dating. Who are they trying to kid???

My guess is the mfgr are beginning to back date just to move product. Reminds me of the old "used car/odometer roll back" scam. I was hopeful there was integrity in mfgr coding. Looks like that was a fool's hope on my part...

Looking forward to your reply about a reliable retail source for this product. I'm off to study what organic Quinoa is. THANKS!


beefsteak

LastResort
13th October 2011, 03:55 AM
I get mine from from costco in southern ontario. I'm sure there are lots of places down there to get it.

beefsteak
13th October 2011, 08:32 AM
Thanks. We have Costcos down here, too. Did remember you were a northerly neighbor. Appreciate the head's up! Good info!

letter_factory
13th October 2011, 10:07 AM
Should US West Coast residents be worried?

While people like Arnie Gundersen have tiptoed the answer to whether west coasters should be worried about Fukushima fallout, Dr. Sircus answered more bluntly:

"I am afraid I will have to be brutally honest and be the bearer of really terrible news. The information coming out about hot particle concentrations near Fukushima, Tokyo, and now Seattle tell us that not only should all those populations be worrying but their governments should have been issuing evacuation orders months ago."

"Because of the jet stream in April, after the large explosions that destroyed three reactor buildings, it was as dangerous in Seattle and much of the west coast of North America as in Tokyo." (Emphasis added)
According to Dr. Sircus, the average Tokyo resident is thought to have inhaled 10 “hot particles” per day throughout April 2011. Inhabitants of Fukushima were estimated to have inhaled 30-40 times more than that—up to 400 hot particles per day every day that month.

In Seattle, WA, it is estimated that the average person absorbed five “hot particles” per day during April 2011, or 10 “hot particles” per day if athletes working out.

"These invisible atomic particles become lodged in your lungs, intestines, bone or muscle."

Being very conservative and saying this has dropped to even one a day "would still be 30 of these death particles a month, approximately 200 radioactive particles into their lungs and other tissues by now.

http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/prestigious-doctor-japan-us-nuclear-valley-of-death

beefsteak
15th October 2011, 11:51 AM
Mrs. Old had our first, a girl, last week. They "recommend" Hepatitus B vaccination at birth. Why the F would you give a baby a shot for a disease that is primarily sexually and IV drug use transmitted? Not me.

Mr. & Mrs Smith,
Hey, I just found you'd welcomed a baby girl. Congrats. Some of us have been wondering.

Hope all are doing well!


beefsteak

Golden
15th October 2011, 12:41 PM
I second those emotions. Good to hear. God bless.

gunDriller
15th October 2011, 01:09 PM
Should US West Coast residents be worried?

While people like Arnie Gundersen have tiptoed the answer to whether west coasters should be worried about Fukushima fallout, Dr. Sircus answered more bluntly:
[INDENT]"I am afraid I will have to be brutally honest and be the bearer of really terrible news. The information coming out about hot particle concentrations near Fukushima, Tokyo, and now Seattle tell us that not only should all those populations be worrying but their governments should have been issuing evacuation orders months ago."

"Because of the jet stream in April, after the large explosions that destroyed three reactor buildings, it was as dangerous in Seattle and much of the west coast of North America as in Tokyo." (Emphasis added)

i think Collapsenet is doing some mapping of radiation measurements.
http://www.collapsenet.com/

Collapsenet is Michael Ruppert's new thing.

i don't think West Coast residents need to be 'worried', they just need to deal with it. like if you live in California, it's dumb to worry about earthquakes - but you definitely need to deal with them.

e.g. little things like bracing bookshelves so they don't fall over during the inevitable temblor, and teaching your tenants (if you own real estate) how to turn off the master gas switch so that a little fire doesn't become a big fire.


in the case of Fukushima, what i wonder about is our food. e.g. potatoes grown in Washington vs. potatoes grown in Idaho. Washington gets more rain, so summer crops get water from rain. Whereas in Idaho, it's more like the high desert in sections, so summer crops get water from wells & stored water (lakes that hold water from the 2010/2011 rainy season.)

and the problem is - i'm just guessing.

has anybody heard of measurements in any locale that document the motion of rainwater down to wells & the effect on wells ?

it seems like the deeper your well is, the better, and the less porous the rock above the aquifer your well draws from, the better.


now that we're coming up to the 2011/2012 rainy season, it is logical that our water supplies will be much more affected by Fukushima.

is now the time to stock up on food from the 2011 growing season ? will food from the 2012 growing season be more Fukushima-ized ?

normally we would get this information from the government, but since they're out to lunch - we have each other ! that's one of the interesting things about Fukushima - there is no mass response, many nuclear engineers are saying "nothing to see here, move along", at some prepper forums, they make fun of people who express concern about how Fukushima affects prepping.

but it's not entirely bad to depend on each other, instead of the government.


from listening to Helen Caldicott, i get the impression that parts of Europe & even Turkey are still Chernobyl-ized. e.g. dates from Turkey = not a good idea, i think i heard someone say.

beefsteak
16th October 2011, 12:04 AM
Gunny,
like the way you cut to the chase in your post.

Words are failing me in formulating a helpful response re: 2011 harvest consumption. Your bolded part about stocking up on 2011 harvest is NOT the direction we've chosen. 2011 harvest is heavily contaminated by the spring rains, all over north american continent as I understand the fallout pattern, brought to earth by the rain reports, from Pacific eastward.

I'm looking forward to hearing what other very valuable contributors will post in response to your inquiry. Glad you posted your question. Sometimes we have to ask what others aren't willing to, right?

Feels like I'm letting you down by not having some
safe list" at the ready so that this food and water thing is more safe for your consumption. I do recall posting about percolation of water and how to help determine what water source is feeding ones water source and ones family earlier on this thread. It was posted in order to mitigate water concerns for me and my family. Perhaps you can click my name and find that water post, altho' using the google search function will probably be more productive since the forum's search engine is majorly non-robust.

Thank you very much for the radiation network link you shared above.


beefsteak

PatColo
18th October 2011, 09:31 PM
thanks to Large Sarge for pointing to this in new thread:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9SbwL5d9_8&feature=youtu.be

... looks like James Corbett's fukushimaupdate.com (http://fukushimaupdate.com)
is a terrific resource, first Ive heard of it.

beefsteak
20th October 2011, 10:41 PM
Published: September 29th, 2011 at 12:55 PM EDT | http://enenews.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-email/images/email_famfamfam.png (http://enenews.com/radioactive-cesium-doubles-bay-area-milk-last-month-above-epas-maximum-contaminant-level/emailpopup/)


By ENENEWS Staff

(http://enenews.com/radioactive-cesium-doubles-bay-area-milk-last-month-above-epas-maximum-contaminant-level#comments)
Cesium nearly doubles over past month in Bay Area milk — Now well above EPA’s maximum contaminant level

UCB Milk Sampling Results (http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/2174), Nuclear Engineering Department At UC Berkeley,

September 27, 2011:
Pasteurized, homogenized milk obtained from a San Francisco Bay Area organic dairy
Best By Date of 08/22/2011:


Cs134 @ 0.047 Becquerels/liter (Bq/L)
Cs137 @ 0.052 Bq/L

Best By Date of 09/29/2011:


Cs134 @ 0.080 Bq/L
Cs137 @ 0.101 Bq/L

Above EPA’s Maximum Contaminant Level

“EPA lumps these gamma and beta emitters together under one collective MCL [Maximum Contaminant Level], so if you’re seeing cesium-137 in your milk or water, the MCL is 3.0 picocuries per liter; if you’re seeing iodine-131, the MCL is 3.0; if you’re seeing cesium-137 and iodine-131, the MCL is still 3.0.” -Forbes.com (http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2011/04/10/epa-new-radiation-highs-in-little-rock-milk-philadelphia-drinking-water/?commentId=comment_blogAndPostId/blog/comment/1405-346-74)

The 9/29 milk sample contains a total of 0.181 Bq/L of radioactive cesium (4.9 picocuries per liter), or more than 160% of the EPA’s Maximum Contaminant Level.

http://enenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/929milk_top.jpg
http://enenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/929milk.jpgSOURCE: UC Berkeley


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Cesium-137 levels in Vermont milk at 66% of maximum contaminant level allowed by EPA (http://enenews.com/cesium-137-levels-in-vermont-milk-at-66-of-maximum-contaminant-level-allowed-by-epa) April 9, 2011
Cesium and iodine both at least 600% above EPA’s maximum contaminant level in Hawaii milk (http://enenews.com/cesium-iodine-hawaii-milk-both-600-above-epas-maximum-contaminant-level-61-pcil-total-beta-particles) April 11, 2011
Phoenix milk sample exceeds EPA’s maximum contaminant level for radioactive iodine-131 (http://enenews.com/phoenix-milk-exceeds-epas-maximum-contaminant-level-for-radioactive-iodine-131) April 9, 2011



Guess Gaddaffi's death is more important....
NOT!

Jis' sayin'....


beefsteak

beefsteak
21st October 2011, 10:32 AM
NUKE ENGINEER and now the world's bravest public face on this EOLAWKI Fubushima 1-6 disaster, Arnie Gunderson's newest vimeo: 10/19/2011

3 Topics:
UPDATES and some stills of TEPCO's FUKU #1 rebuilt cover nearing completion and their plans to send gases up the stack and higher into the atmosphere (to give the Trade Winds a shot at sending them around the world, of course.)

TEPCO's release of photos of #3, the MOX reactor whose storage pool was the most dastardly of the radioactive, plutonium spewing particles and gases ever experienced in human history....

REVIEW of DAMAGED CENTER OF Fuku #3 containment (inference is the reactor itself) video footage provided by TEPCO and released 14 days AFTER March 11, 2011 explosion at #3. Arnie has called it and called it without undo hyperbole, much to his credit. And he's still calling it as he sees it, with a little more force and specificity, I dare add. Perhaps due to hanging out with Dr. Helen Caldicott? One wonders. #3's containment has continuously emitted poisonous steam for 225 days now...

YES, I SAID CONTINUOUSLY EMITTED POISONOUS STEAM FROM FUKU#3 for 225 days now.

WAKE UP WORLD!!!

And of course, they are covering #1 and leaving #3 to continue to poison the planet.

Now doesn't that absurdity fry your brain....

This ain't good, people!


http://vimeo.com/30816614

Serpo
22nd October 2011, 03:43 PM
This is in English although starts in a French for a few moments


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NgFyYkXbHyg#!

beefsteak
22nd October 2011, 04:42 PM
Jeremy Rifkin is the English speaker. He gives 5 arguments why nuclear power will not move from 433 global plants currently to over 1500-2000 plants in next 20 years. Frankly, I found his arguments compelling, and gives me hope for future generations long after these bones have turned to dust.

Thanks, Serpo!

PatColo
24th October 2011, 06:42 AM
Am. Free Press giving Shimatsu's allegations some wider exposure,

Journalist Accuses Israel of Fukushima Sabotage (http://americanfreepress.net/?p=969)

October 14, 2011 admin
http://americanfreepress.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Fukushima.jpg By Richard Walker -
A leading Japanese journalist recently made two incredible claims about the Fukushima power plant that suffered a nuclear meltdown in March 2011, sending shockwaves around the world. First, the former editor of a national newspaper in Japan says the U.S. and Israel knew Fukushima had weapons-grade uranium and plutonium that were exposed to the atmosphere after a massive tsunami wave hit the reactor. Second, he contends that Israeli intelligence sabotaged the reactor in retaliation for Japan’s support of an independent Palestinian state.
more: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=969

Horn
24th October 2011, 08:53 AM
Thats another piece that could use it own thread.

beefsteak
24th October 2011, 09:14 AM
Disagree, Horn.

PatColo keeping us updated on award winning journalist Yoichi Shimatsu's latest published articles is VERY MUCH appropriate and most assuredly welcome on this thread.

You can do your best to proselytize PatColo if you wish, but do NOT discourage this valuable Shimatsu watcher/reporter from posting anything here, please. Thanks for your cooperation, horn.

THANKS, PATCOLO!
That was an eye-opener from an vetted reporter of the truth about Japan and many other topics. His sources must read like the "Who's Who" of Japan aristocracy and the far east, yes?

Find it interesting, do you not, the first COLOR PHOTO of said Fukushima explosion. Wonder where THAT came from? Bet that ticks off TEPCO.........

I agree, nice to see some mainstream press pick up on Yoichi's reporting. 'Bout time!!!


beefsteak

PatColo
24th October 2011, 09:34 AM
thanks beef. But I read horn's msg as just meaning it's an important story, not that it's somehow inappropriate for this thread.

Thing is, while I tend to believe the story, as it's been clear since the quake/tsunami that there was an op afoot (relative ZSM blackout being the top clue IMHO)- it's hard to decide where to begin on that story, IE what to discuss. "Retaliation for Japan's public stance in support of Palestinians" seems like a awfully thin reason to engineer such a disaster, radiating Japan & most of the northern hemisphere. But quality info on the real rabbit hole there is hard to come by, and really an academic exercise to boot coz, imagining we were to figure it all out, then what?

Joe King
24th October 2011, 09:45 AM
thanks beef. But I read horn's msg as just meaning it's an important story, not that it's somehow inappropriate for this thread.

I believe that's exactly what Horn meant, Pat. It seemed obvious. Horn?

beefsteak
24th October 2011, 12:32 PM
PatColo,
I hear you.

As far as this deep Israeli Fukushima rabbit hole goes, a couple points he makes just keep floating to the surface...

1) the prior investigations he's published with regards to this whole Jap/US/Israeli nuke triangle, even before FUKUSHIMA 1-6 blew...at least it is my understanding from listening to him either 2 weeks ago, or 3 weeks ago that THAT journalistic history is part of his documented and published repertoire.


2) Y.S. single-handedly breaking the news that out of 43 Jap nuclear power plants in operation before the tsunami, only 5 are currently operating... thank you Israel/US collaborative STUXNET black ops.

3) Documented prior Zionist behaviors allow for belief in the unmitigated gall of the Israelis to "help themselves" to the plutonium right off the top of the loads sent to Japan for the reprocessing contracts under Camp David accord, April 6, 2006.

It's not okay in the druggie world we are given to understand by TV portrayals that is...for a street thug to take a cut out of the kingpin's supply he's supposed to be pushing off to addicts and kiddies on the corner and in the school yards. I submit it is most assuredly not okay for Israeli (govt-wink wink) to help themselves to that which doesn't contractually belong to them, either. STUXNET or no STUXNET.

That STUXNET worm just keeps on giving, yes? Makes ME wonder how many of the other 400 some odd GLOBAL nuke plants are in off the radar meltdown thanks to STUXNET---and just haven't blown up yet......

In a strange way, this all fits, in my mind anyhow.


beefsteak

PatColo
24th October 2011, 05:37 PM
Yoshi's scheduled for his regular Rense appearance tonight, 9PM PT hour sometime- he may have only half the hour, not sure as there are 4 guests listed- I'll tend to wait for the commercial-free mp3 to be posted:

Hesham Tillawi, PhD
The US-NATO Massacre Of Libya
Susan Lindauer
Libya Destroyed, Tens
Of Thousands Murdered
Dr. John DeSalvo
5,000 Crystal Skull Verified From Hong Kong
Yoichi Shimatsu
Fukushima Update

gunDriller
25th October 2011, 08:19 AM
That STUXNET worm just keeps on giving, yes? Makes ME wonder how many of the other 400 some odd GLOBAL nuke plants are in off the radar meltdown thanks to STUXNET---and just haven't blown up yet......

In a strange way, this all fits, in my mind anyhow.

beefsteak


San Onofre & Diablo Canyon come to mind. but California is so Zio-compliant I don't know if Israel would tamper with them.

But when you look at the history of Israel's "obedience training" -
* Swedish minister Anna Lindh speaks out for Palestinians. some guy stabs her to death in public, out of the blue.
* Norway has growing pro-Palestinian bloc. very odd incident occurs, the shooting ... police stand down, just like in Mumbai.
* 9-11.

Looks like -
* Japan had a covert nuclear program at Fukushima. this would partially explain their incredibly ham-handed post-Tsunami attempted solutions. Papier mache to plug a high-pressure leak ?

It's like they had a strait-jacket on - competent engineers unable to solve straightforward problems.

* Japan's pro-Palestinian vote, Yes that pisses off Mad-Dog Israel.


Some of the secrets of Fukushima lie with the engineers who were asked to fix the problems. I hope some of them have the courage to become whistleblowers.

If there was a covert nuclear program and/or Israeli interference, the engineers would see it as instructions that made NO SENSE whatsoever.

beefsteak
25th October 2011, 08:46 AM
Gunny,
enjoyed reading your thoughtful analysis. Rense spoke to another japanese website (didn't catch the name, sorry....) Here's hoping it pops up on the re-play PatColo will be posting...
The gist of the set up for the additional website is that it contains what are believed by the website creators to be credible whistleblower/insider type comments.

I'd sure like to see the rest of the Dr. Saji daily emails that Gunderson admits he is on the short-list to receive. The public blog detailin these stopped at like day 57 or some such. Here's hoping he was just "slapped on the wrist" instead of eliminated, due to his former govt post and intimate knowledge of all things nuclear-japanese in particular.


beefsteak

Serpo
25th October 2011, 09:10 PM
An enraged Fukushima citizen talks about everything

A raged Fukushima citizen confessed everything at the interview with a journalist Iwakami Yasumi.
This guy, Mr.Sakuma is in Kawamata machi, where is east to Fukushima plant by 22km.
Even before 311, he had been having a problem in his eyes.
His doctor said he has a tumor in tear gland. He was having medical treatment but after the explosions, it went so bad that he couldn’t even close his eyes.
Having his 3 years old child have nosebleed, he decided to evacuate to Hachijo jima.
His family totally believes what the TV says so he was criticized hard but since he evacuated to Hachijojima, his eyes became better.
He runs motorcycle shop. He has 30,000,000 JPY load from banks so he had to come back to Fukushima.
He is aware of the health risk to live in Fukushima, but for the financial reasons, he must struggle being exposed.
His eyes get worse soon as he comes back to Fukushima. However, his doctors at Fukushima university asserts it has nothing to do with radiation.
Interview overview
1) 21 years old Fukushima worker died of cardiac infarct. It is not reported and police didn’t even do autopsy. He died when he was at home, and he was working at Fukushima plant since March to July.
2) Though everyone pays attention to reactor 1 to 4, actually reactor 5 and 6 are in crisis. Engineers from Hitachi are coming to the area to get it settled down but it’s concealed. It’s likely that they are going critical so Iodine 131 are measured in Tokyo or Iwate.
3) In the “worst” contaminated area,where is about 1 Sv/h or so, “unlisted” workers are forced to work. They are hunted in the downtown in Osaka, treated as disposable workers.
One of his friends had to go into reactor 3. When the person saw the area, it was full of debris and the counter showed about 1~2 Sv/h but the next morning, the area was perfectly clean. Because it needs sensitive work, it must have been done by humans.
They say, those disposable workers were forced to work in those situations, held captive until they die, and then marked as “missing”.
4) Police that guard within the 20km area border are not informed of the radiation level. (about 100 microSv/h when Mr Sakuma and his friend visited) and a lot of police are dead but it never be reported either.
5) He longs for the truth, so everything can give up living in Fukushima at least. Even if it’s revealed in 50 years from now, it’s too late.
6) Some of the radiation monitoring posts are taken away.
7) Local government requires citizens to report “lower” number of what the counter shows, so their radiation map shows lower than actual.


http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/10/news-a-raged-fukushima-citizen-talks-about-everything/

gunDriller
28th October 2011, 06:36 AM
Radiation monitoring websites from
http://www.collapsenet.com/free-resources/collapsenet-public-access/item/4170-global-radiation-monitoring-websites


http://radiationnetwork.com/
Independent, monitors ~35 locations in North America.

it's hard to interpret some of the data. so far i like Radiation Network the most. still trying to figure it out though.


http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html

http://www.epa.gov/radnet/radnet-data/index.html
/\ US gov.

http://www.taratest.com/

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-radiation-monitoring-from-west-la#utm_campaigne=synclickback
/\ Southern California


the collapsenet web page has links for Europe etc.

keehah
30th October 2011, 09:25 PM
Three-eyed fish found in nuclear lake (http://www.straight.com/article-516931/vancouver/threeeyed-fish-found-nuclear-lake)
Straight.com October 28, 2011
http://www.straight.com/files/imagecache/blog_teaser_main_image/images/wide/fishy.jpeg
Well, that joke ain’t funny anymore. Twenty-one years after Blinky the three-eyed fish made its debut on The Simpsons, anglers in Argentina caught the lovely specimen you see above in a reservoir fed by Argentina’s Embasle nuclear power station.

Delicious. ... the facility uses a Canadian made CANDU reactor.

gunDriller
31st October 2011, 05:37 AM
http://www.straight.com/files/imagecache/blog_teaser_main_image/images/wide/fishy.jpeg

that thing on the top of its head looks more like a lesion.

in any case, i am being forced to abandon my "nuclear is safe when it's done by adults" thinking - because there's not enough adults around.

i would trust YOU GUYS to manage a nuclear plant or storage site ... i would trust Helen Caldicott, or Arnie G., or Yoichi.


i wonder where San Onofre & Diablo Canyon store their spent fuel.

the "nuclear is safe when it's 93 million miles away" (solar power) folks are looking smarter & smarter.


glad i have some dry firewood.

beefsteak
1st November 2011, 09:28 PM
ZERO HEDGE tonight, makes this Fukushima Dia-ichi Plant #2 reactor story it's 3 most important headliner as of 12:27AM this Wednesday AM.



Remember Fukushima? It's Back

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)Submitted by Tyler Durden (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) on 11/01/2011 21:47 -0400

The problem with sweeping unresolved problems, especially of the unstable gamma decay variety, is that they tend to pop up at the most inopportune of times. Such as during global coordinated fiat ponzi bailouts. Kyodo reports that according to TEPCO a fresh fission reaction has restarted at Fukushima Daichi, and that boric acid is being injected to control a "possible nuclear reaction." Hardly the encouraging news that the world needs right about now.
From Kyodo (http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/11/123753.html):
TEPCO finds sign of fresh nuclear fission at Fukushima reactor

Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Wednesday there may be signs of fresh nuclear fission in the No. 2 reactor at its quake-damaged Fukushima Daiichi power plant and that it has begun injecting boric acid to control a possible nuclear reaction.

There has been no change in the temperature, pressure and radiation levels at the reactor, whose nuclear fuel is believed to have melted when the cooling system failed following the March 11 earthquake and tsunami, the utility known as TEPCO said.

Gas samples taken Tuesday from inside the reactor's containment vessel may contain radioactive xenon, a gas typically generated by nuclear fission, the company said.
What is the conventional wisdom thinking on Fukushima anyway? Out of sight, out of mind? Yeah, we thought so.-----------------------
observation:

If TEPCO is holding true to form, this is either 3 weeks to 7 months old story they are just now admitting in print.

Add this "latest news" to the....
.......change in US Jet Stream on the West Coast.....
..........the overt Japanese radioactive forest and radioactive rubble burning now in our upper atmosphere/jet stream....
plus
.........the TEPCO promised F#3 reactor building opening and radiation release in October........
I'd say we're already set up for the deadliest La Nina winter in North America, EVER!

And to think that the early 2011 season snow dump on the east coast isn't as fluffy and white as it was romantically portrayed just a few days ago.

GSUSers,
do you know where your N-95, flax seed, sodium bi-carb, and french green clay, RO clean water supply is? ? ? ?

beefsteak
1st November 2011, 11:00 PM
PatColo,
Did Rense post last weeks Yoichi transcript/MP3 yet?
And here Monday has rolled around again.
Sure hope so. Thanks for looking when you have time.


beefsteak

PatColo
1st November 2011, 11:44 PM
beef, last Yoichi interview posted @ rense.com (http://rense.com) is from 10/10. You can always check, just scroll down to news stories, middle column, there are 2 blocks of fukushima news- one japan-centric, one US-centric. I couldn't tell you why Rense is spotty about posting mp3's of the weekly Yoichi interviews, ???

here's just a couple:
US Topsoil 10,000% Higher Cesium Than Found By UC Berkeley (http://enenews.com/university-researcher-topsoil-8000-pcikg-cesium-fukushima-10000-higher-highest-levels-found-uc-berkeley)

Gunderson - Fukushima Hot Particles Proven In The US (http://fairewinds.com/content/scientist-marco-kaltofen-presents-data-confirming-hot-particles) - Vid

PR Stunt - Japan MP Drinks Fukushima Water (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-15533018)

LastResort
2nd November 2011, 04:56 AM
GSUSers,
do you know where your N-95, flax seed, sodium bi-carb, and french green clay, RO clean water supply is? ? ? ?

Yes...

Sauna last night after a workout, then protein shake with chlorella and Diatomaceous earth.

Gotta be proactive with ones health these days...:p

beefsteak
3rd November 2011, 11:55 AM
Thank you OILPRICE.com [Slick]spot on!!

New International Report Shreds Japan's Carefully Constructed Fukushima Scenario

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)
Submitted by Tyler Durden (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) on 11/03/2011 12:46 -0400



Submitted by OilPrice.com (http://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Nuclear-Power/New-International-Report-Shreds-Japan-s-Carefully-Constructed-Fukushima-Scenario.html)

New International Report Shreds Japan's Carefully Constructed Fukushima Scenario

Japan’s six reactor Fukushima Daichi nuclear complex has inadvertently become the world’s bell-weather poster child for the inherent risks of nuclear power ever since the 11 March Tohoku offshore earthquake, measuring 9.0 on the Richter scale, triggered a devastating tsunami that effectively destroyed the complex.

Ever since, specialists have wrangled about how damaging the consequences of the earthquake and subsequent tsunami actually were, not only for the facility but the rest of the world.

The Fukushima Daichi complex was one of the 25 largest nuclear power stations in the world and the Fukushima I reactor was the first GE designed nuclear plant to be constructed and run entirely by the Tokyo Electric Power Company, or TEPCO.

Needless to say, in the aftermath of the disaster, both TEPCO and the Japanese government were at pains to minimize the disaster’s consequences, hardly surprising given the country’s densely populated regions.

But now, an independent study has effectively demolished TEPCO and the Japanese government’s carefully constructed minimalist scenario. Mainichi news agency reported that France’s l’Institut de Radioprotection et de Surete Nucleaire (Institute for Radiological Protection and Nuclear Safety, or IRSN) has issued a recent report stating that the amount of radioactive cesium-137 that entered the Pacific after 11 March was probably nearly 30 times the amount stated by Tokyo Electric Power Co. in May.

According to IRSN, the amount of the radioactive isotope cesium-137 that flowed into the ocean from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant between March 21 and mid-July reached an estimated 27.1 quadrillion becquerels.
[Ed: sure makes ole Fulford's recent guerilla.com interveiw a big brassy baldface lie, yes?]

Why should this matter? Aren’t the Japanese authorities on top of the issue?

Cesium-137 can cause burns, acute radiation sickness and even death at sufficient doses. It can contaminate food and water and, if ingested, gets distributed around the body, where it builds up in soft tissues, such as muscles. Over time, it is expelled from the body in urine.
[Ed. Hence the NaHCO3 supplementation currently mandatory, personal de rigueur...]

And where might the ingested cesium-137 come from?

Seafood, anyone?

One of the problems of the release of radioactivity into a maritime environment is that is represents a cumulative food chain, from plankton consumed by larger organisms, as evidenced by mercury contamination of swordfish, none of whom swam around ingesting globules of the silvery metal.

IRSN estimated that of the total amount, 82 percent had flowed into the sea by 8 April, adding that the Pacific was polluted at exceptional speed because the devastated Fukushima Daichi nuclear power plant (NPP) is situated in a coastal area with strong currents.

If the IRSN report contained any good news, it was that the impact of the cesium-137 contamination on marine life in remote waters is likely to lessen later this year.

The radioactive silver lining? Radioactive cesium-137 has a half life of roughly 30 years, so if the IRSN estimates are accurate, then my 2041 the Pacific’s aquatic life will only be subjected to a mere 13.55 quadrillion becquerels of radiation.

This is not to suggest that Japanese will shortly be keeling over from consuming their sushi but rather, that for better or for worse, a significant amount of cesium 137 has entered the Pacific’s aquatic environment, and the long-term effects of low-level exposure on the population consuming Pacific seafood are unknown.

Numerous tests since 1945, when before it was believed that only massive bursts of radiation were hazardous to human health, have documented the insidious effects of long-term, low level radiological exposure to humans. [Ed. Dr. Abraham Petkau effect discussion is higher on this thread...]

Fukushima sits at the nexus where the Kuroshio Current, running northward off the eastern coast of Japan, collides with the cold subarctic Oyashio Current that flows southwards, circulating counterclockwise along the western North Pacific Ocean. Their interaction produces the North Pacific Current, a slow warm water eastwards flowing current between 40 and 50 degrees north in the Pacific Ocean. In the eastern northern Pacific, the North Pacific Current divides into the southern flowing California Current and the northern Alaska Current.

The potential level of pollution outlined in the IRSN report indicate that it is long overdue for both TEPCO and the Japanese government to stop dribbling out information about the true state of events since Fukushima was devastated, and that foreign governments, particularly the United States, whose western shores are washed by the same currents that pass by Fukushima, insist that they do so.

While trillions of dollars are at stake in the worldwide nuclear industry, the potential health consequences are now simply too significant to ignore.
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THANK YOU, OILPRICE.COM


beefsteak

PatColo
3rd November 2011, 10:46 PM
latest Dees:

http://rense.com/1.imagesH/micky_dees.jpg

current stories on rense front page:

As The Public, Possibly Worldwide, Sickens (From Radiation)... (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/fl20111101ad.html)
Fukushima Fears Played Down By TEPCO (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/03/fukushima-fears-played-down)
Fukushima Reactor 2 May Have Gone Critical (http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/02_38.html) - Vid
Reactor 2 100 Fold Increase Of Krypton 85 In ONE Day (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/11/reactor-2-cv-gas-analysis-on-november-2.html)
Fukushima Cesium 134, 137 Already 95% Of Chernobyl (http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/11/cs134-and-137-from-fukushima-are-already-95-of-chernobyl/)
Gunderson - Fukushima Hot Particles Proven In The US (http://fairewinds.com/content/scientist-marco-kaltofen-presents-data-confirming-hot-particles) - Vid
Nuclear Fission Reignites At Fukushima Reactor 2 (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20111102x1.html)
New Video Tour Of Destroyed Fukushima 1 Nuke Plant (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/11/video-of-fuku-i-nuke-plant-on-october.html) - Vid
Kyushu Electric To Restart One Of Its Reactors (http://australiancannonball.com/2011/11/01/kyushu-electric-to-resume-operating-nuke-plant-reactor/)
Radioactive Cesium In Japan Pollen Being Breathed (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20111101x2.html)
8 Yr Old Japanese Girl Has 2,915 Bq Of Cesium (http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/10/8-years-old-girl-has-2915-bq-of-cesium/)
PR Stunt - Japan MP Drinks Fukushima Water (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-15533018)
US Topsoil 10,000% Higher Cesium Than Found By UC Berkeley (http://enenews.com/university-researcher-topsoil-8000-pcikg-cesium-fukushima-10000-higher-highest-levels-found-uc-berkeley)
The Fukushima Melt-Throughs - An Overview (http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/10/what-must-be-done-for-melt-out/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FukushimaDiary+%28Fukushima+D iary%29)
Chernobyl Like Deformed Eye In Japan Kitten (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0kIuSR_5GU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL)
Japan Confused, Perplexed On How To Handle Radiation (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204394804577008192502423920.html)
Farmer Near Fukushima Proceeding To Sell Rice (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/10/farmer-in-evacuation-ready-zone-in.html)
Nuclear Powers Plan Weapons Spending Spree (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/30/nuclear-powers-weapons-spending-report)
Fukushima Plant Clean Up May Take 30 Yrs (or 100) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/31/fukushima-nuclear-plant-30-years-cleanup)
Kashiwa City School Reads 3.52 mSv/hr - 200k From Fukushima (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rC5aLuSLbxw) - Vid
Hydrogen Gas Rising In Reactor 2 Building (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/10/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-hydrogen-gas.html)
Japan Still Refusing To Evacuate Fukushima Children (http://australiancannonball.com/2011/10/30/japanese-government-still-refusing-to-evacuate-fukushima-children/)
Mainichi Reveals Secret Of Japan's 'Latent' Nuclear Weapons (http://mdn.mainichi.jp/perspectives/news/20111028p2a00m0na004000c.html)
Fukushima Legislature Votes To Close Ten Nukes (http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=155903)
Volunteers, Residents To Decon Fukushima City Hot Spots (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/10/110-volunteers-and-residents-to-decon.html)
More... (http://rense.com/Datapages/japanquakedat.htm)
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/images%284%29.jpgFuksuhima Radiation In US & Canada
US Chart Showing Precipitation
Radiation Types & Amounts (http://opendata.socrata.com/Government/Precipitation-RadNet-Laboratory-Analysis/e2xy-undq)
Live National Radiation Network Map (http://radiationnetwork.com/)
West LA - Santa Monica Live Readings (http://www.enviroreporter.com/2011/03/enviroreporter-coms-radiation-station/#averages)
Radiation And Jet Stream Forecast Monitoring Sites (http://rense.com/general93/radiation.htm)
Radiation Dose Chart (http://xkcd.com/radiation/)
Dangerously Radioactive Second-Hand Cars Haunt Japan (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/radioactive-second-hand-cars-dog-japan/story-e6frg6so-1226177000267)
Radioactive Concrete Sold In Japan Home Center Store (http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/10/radioactive-waste-has-already-become-concrete/) - Vid
EMF Radiation Has Staggering Effect On Living Beings (http://www.activistpost.com/2011/10/cellphone-towers-emr-damaging.html)
Fukushima Rain In St Louis, MO 270x Over Background (http://australiancannonball.com/2011/10/18/2-76-mrhr-fukushima-rainfall-in-saint-louis-missouri-on-101711/) - Vid
Cesium In Bay Area Milk Doubles In Past Month (http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/2174)
10 Most Radioactive Places On Earth (http://brainz.org/ten-most-radioactive-places-earth/)
Canada Says Fish Test Rad-Free - Suspicions Grow (http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2011/09/fish-tests-radiation-negative-but-wheres-it-from/)
Plutonium May Be Flowing All The Way To West Coast (http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/09/breaking-news-we-are-running-out-of-time/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FukushimaDiary+%28Fukushima+D iary%29)
Massive Tokyo Anti-Nuke Rally Mocked By Japan MSM (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/photographs-of-60000-strong-anti-nuke.html)
Japan Schools To Program Kids About Radiation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeV0j06jAWA&feature=uploademail) - Vid
BAD NEWS - St. Louis Rainwater 133x Normal Background (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRLabU6TVRY) - Vid
Np 239 Detected In St Louis 9/14/11 Radioactive Rainfall? (http://australiancannonball.com/2011/09/17/maximum-alert-neptunium-239-potentially-detected-in-saint-louis-91411-radioactive-rainfall/)
Japan To Promote Use Of Potentially Radioactive Lumber (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/potentially-radioactive-lumber-to-be.html)
'Non-Intrusive' Radiation Scanners For Heathrow (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2034011/Non-intrusive-scanners-spare-travellers-blushes-Heathrow--turning-stick-men.html)
Rense & Michael Collins - Fukushima Radiation In Our Food (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We50AVrTMk8) - Vid
Video Shows US West Drenched By Fukushima Radiation (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/map-of-cesium-137-deposition-across.html) - Vid
Radioactive Fill 10x Over Background Used On Niagara Roads (http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/niagara/Concerns-over-Falls-road-fill-radiation)
HI Testing For Radiation At Kaneohe Sandbar (http://www.khon2.com/news/local/story/State-testing-for-radioactive-contamination-at/3e_axVWUcUOvo8HeB4iL9Q.cspx)
More... (http://rense.com/Datapages/radiationdat.htm)

PatColo
3rd November 2011, 11:32 PM
Tuesday, Nov. 1, 2011

JUST BE CAUSE
(http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/JTsearch5.cgi?term1=JUST%20BE%20CAUSE) The costly fallout of tatemae and Japan's culture of deceit (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/fl20111101ad.html)


By DEBITO ARUDOU (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/JTsearch5.cgi?term1=DEBITO%20ARUDOU)
There is an axiom in Japanese: uso mo hōben — "lying is also a means to an end." It sums up the general attitude in Japan of tolerance of — even justification for — not telling the truth.

First — defining "telling the truth" as divulging the truth (not a lie), the whole truth (full disclosure) and nothing but the truth (uncompounded with lies) — consider how lies are deployed in everyday personal interactions.

Let's start with good old tatemae (charitably translated as "pretense"). By basically saying something you think the listener wants to hear, tatemae is, essentially, lying. That becomes clearer when the term is contrasted with its antonym, honne, one's "true feelings and intentions."

Tatemae, however, goes beyond the "little white lie," as it is often justified less by the fact you have avoided hurting your listener's feelings, more by what you have gained from the nondisclosure.

But what if you disclose your true feelings? That's often seen negatively, as baka shōjiki ("stupidly honest"): imprudent, naive, even immature. Skillful lying is thus commendable — it's what adults in society learn to do.

Now extrapolate. What becomes of a society that sees lying as a justifiably institutionalized practice? Things break down. If everyone is expected to lie, who or what can you trust?

Consider law enforcement. Japan's lack of even the expectation of full disclosure means, for example, there is little right to know your accuser (e.g., in bullying cases). In criminal procedure, the prosecution controls the flow of information to the judge (right down to what evidence is admissible). And that's before we get into how secretive and deceptive police interrogations are infamous for being.

Consider jurisprudence. Witnesses are expected to lie to such an extent that Japan's perjury laws are weak and unenforceable. Civil court disputes (try going through, for example, a divorce) often devolve into one-upmanship lying matches, flippantly dismissed as "he-said, she-said" (mizukake-ron). And judges, as seen in the Valentine case (Zeit Gist, Aug. 14, 2007), will assume an eyewitness is being untruthful simply based on his/her attributes — in this case because the witness was foreign like the plaintiff.

Consider administrative procedure. Official documents and public responses attach organizational affiliations but few actual names for accountability. Those official pronouncements, as I'm sure many readers know due to arbitrary Immigration decisions, often fall under bureaucratic "discretion" (sairyō), with little if any right of appeal. And if you need further convincing, just look at the loopholes built into Japan's Freedom of Information Act.

All this undermines trust of public authority. Again, if bureaucrats (like everyone else) are not expected to fully disclose, society gets a procuracy brazenly ducking responsibility wherever possible through vague directives, masked intentions and obfuscation.

This is true to some degree of all bureaucracies, but the problem in Japan is that this nondisclosure goes relatively unpunished. Our media watchdogs, entrusted with upholding public accountability, often get distracted or corrupted by editorial or press club conceits. Or, giving reporters the benefit of the doubt, it's hard to know which lyin' rat to pounce on first when there are so many. Or journalists themselves engage in barely researched, unscientific or sensationalistic reporting, undermining their trustworthiness as information sources.

Public trust, once lost, is hard to regain. In such a climate, even if the government does tell the truth, people may still disbelieve it. Take, for example, the Environment Ministry's recent strong-arming of regional waste management centers to process Tohoku disaster ruins: Many doubt government claims that radioactive rubble will not proliferate nationwide, fanning fears that the nuclear power industry is trying to make itself less culpable for concentrated radiation poisoning by irradiating everyone (see www.debito.org/?p=954! (http://www.debito.org/?p=9547))!

Apologists would say (and they do) that lying is what everyone in positions of power does worldwide, since power itself corrupts. But there is the matter of degree, and in Japan there is scant reward for telling the truth — and ineffective laws to protect whistle-blowers. It took a brave foreign CEO at Olympus Corp. to come out recently about corporate malfeasance; he was promptly sacked, reportedly due to his incompatibility with "traditional Japanese practices." Yes, quite so.

This tradition of lying has a long history. The Japanese Empire's deception about its treatment of prisoners of war and noncombatants under the Geneva Conventions (e.g., the Bataan Death March, medical experiments under Unit 731), not to mention lying to its own civilians about how they would be treated if captured by the Allies, led to some of the most horrifying mass murder-suicides of Japanese, dehumanizing reprisals by their enemies, and war without mercy in World War II's Pacific Theater.

Suppressing those historical records, thanks to cowardice among Japan's publishers, reinforced by a general lack of "obligation to the truth," has enabled a clique of revisionists to deny responsibility for Japan's past atrocities, alienating it from its neighbors in a globalizing world.

Even today, in light of Fukushima, Japan's development into a modern and democratic society seems to have barely scratched the surface of this culture of deceit. Government omerta and omission kept the nation ignorant about the most basic facts — including reactor meltdowns — for months!

Let me illustrate the effects of socially accepted lying another way: What is considered the most untrustworthy of professions? Politics, of course. Because politicians are seen as personalities who, for their own survival, appeal to people by saying what they want to hear, regardless of their own true feelings.

That is precisely what tatemae does to Japanese society. It makes everyone into a politician, changing the truth to suit their audience, garner support or deflect criticism and responsibility.

Again, uso mo hoben: As long as you accomplish your goals, lying is a means to an end. The incentives in Japan are clear. Few will tell the truth if they will be punished for doing so, moreover rarely punished for not doing so.

No doubt a culturally relativistic observer would attempt to justify this destructive dynamic by citing red herrings and excuses (themselves tatemae) such as "conflict avoidance," "maintaining group harmony," "saving face," or whatever. Regardless, the awful truth is: "We Japanese don't lie. We just don't tell the truth."

This is not sustainable. Post-Fukushima Japan must realize that public acceptance of lying got us into this radioactive mess in the first place.
For radiation has no media cycle. It lingers and poisons the land and food chain.

Statistics may be obfuscated or suppressed as usual. But radiation's half-life is longer than the typical attention span or sustainable degree of public outrage.

As the public — possibly worldwide — sickens over time, the truth will leak out.

gunDriller
4th November 2011, 06:45 AM
http://radiationnetwork.com/

i looked at each of those Radiation Monitoring sites. the one that made the most sense was radiationnetwork.com.

i don't entirely understand the readings.

the little circles with the numbers that indicate radiation level - none of them were "blinking red".

they SEEMED to indicate low levels of radiation in North America.


does this mean we're 'safe' ? - temporarily

reading back about Chernobyl, it went around the world, but the locations that were gravely affected were closer to Ground Zero for that disaster. for example, some farms in Scotland, that remain condemned today. also, date farms in Turkey, i think remain affected.

i figure the whole ballgame here is to 'worry accurately' (though i try not to worry at all, and to just prepare vigorously.)

after the initial releases in March 2011 that made their way to North America, are we now in a safe zone/ window ?

for example, can we do rainwater catchment & storage, and eat food from crops that are rainwater irrigated instead of well irrigated ? (admitting that ultimately wells get their water from the rain, but for a deep well there is a delay effect )


if we're safe, we're safe - i'm not complaining ! ;)

but somehow - i have a feeling it's not that simple.

i wonder if the only way to know for sure is to buy a Geiger Counter & similar equipment & learn how to use it.

also to collect samples of rainwater and to send them to a lab where there are experienced radiation engineers/ scientists, with no political agenda (they just take measurements, they're not taking orders from the US gov. who seems to have the policy of "nothing to see here".)

can anybody suggest such a lab ?


on a side note - i started letting my chickens free range. i kept them in a 'restricted' aread for about 7 months, so that all the food & straw/ manure/ compost in there is from known sources, e.g. hay from the 2010 harvest, pre-Fukushima. but i was on the road for 2 weeks, and wanted to let them have some chicken style fun (scratching in the compost pile for bugs).

PatColo
5th November 2011, 12:58 PM
Am. Free Press giving Shimatsu's allegations some wider exposure,

Journalist Accuses Israel of Fukushima Sabotage (http://americanfreepress.net/?p=969)

October 14, 2011 admin
http://americanfreepress.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Fukushima.jpg By Richard Walker -
A leading Japanese journalist recently made two incredible claims about the Fukushima power plant that suffered a nuclear meltdown in March 2011, sending shockwaves around the world. First, the former editor of a national newspaper in Japan says the U.S. and Israel knew Fukushima had weapons-grade uranium and plutonium that were exposed to the atmosphere after a massive tsunami wave hit the reactor. Second, he contends that Israeli intelligence sabotaged the reactor in retaliation for Japan’s support of an independent Palestinian state.
more: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=969

the gee-whiz editing on this is a distraction but it's only 2:18,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AS2PIYPGTAc

gunDriller
6th November 2011, 06:02 AM
sub-title - "Well, at least Korea is Honest" -

"Radioactive cesium found on S. Korean streets"

"South Korean authorities began digging up streets in Seoul’s Nowon Ward on Nov. 4, after high radiation levels were detected on the asphalt."

http://ajw.asahi.com/article/asia/korean_peninsula/AJ2011110516649

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6280/japan1enr0.jpg

beefsteak
7th November 2011, 11:36 PM
Nuke Engineer, Arnie Gunderson posted this, indicating the entire report of Kaltofen who testified in DC to various big whigs in audience, the results of his radioactive "FUEL FLEAS" a.k.a., hot particle tests in April after Fuku Blew...
basis Seattle
basis Tokyo
basis Fukushima Prefecture.


http://vimeo.com/31370998


beefsteak

gunDriller
8th November 2011, 07:53 AM
i already take off my outdoor shoes & toss them in a tub with soapy water - cause of the poison oak.

maybe that same routine will help to catch some fuel fleas.

maybe i should dig the crawl space under my house into a basement, to enlarge the Fukushima-free living area.

plus i like digging anyway.

beefsteak
8th November 2011, 08:42 AM
How can one love gold and / or silver and not have the "like to dig" thing goin' for them, Gunny? LOL

Sure wish I would have known that you had captive/under cover chickens that you needed a sitter for. Me and the wife would have moved heaven and earth to some how get that done for you. We are literally scraping bottom trying to find safe chickens to eat, ditto eggs.

Any of your resourceful neighbors want to make any extra money off of their captive chickens or fresh eggs? Serious inquiry here.

So serious am I with this inquiry, anyone with any leads on under cover aquaculture/and chickens, turkey, veal growers/suppliers would be deeply appreciated! PM please.


beefsteak

osoab
9th November 2011, 04:29 PM
New Yochi on Rense. from 11-7-11

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Shimatsu_110711.mp3

http://www.rense.com/

beefsteak
9th November 2011, 09:40 PM
Heavy with sadness after listening to that, Osoab. Thank you for posting the link. I hadn't looked for it yet.

DMac
10th November 2011, 02:19 PM
the gee-whiz editing on this is a distraction but it's only 2:18,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AS2PIYPGTAc

I'm linking a thread I created on this very subject, here:

Stuxnet confirmed in Japan (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?46098-Stuxnet-confirmed-in-Japan)

Bad form or no, I'll bump it up as well.

PatColo
10th November 2011, 05:26 PM
^ it's a good idea, the stuxnet angle is worth its own thread. As I said b4 somewhere though, I don't really know where to go with that angle- need a smoking gun, new revelations- hate to say but it's sort of an academic discussion without more info to chew on. FWIW my first guess is stuxnet was responsible, or at least played a key role- just too much funny smelling about the whole fukushima meltdown, the media blackout, etc. And the spike in cancer levels I expect in the N. hemisphere in the coming years will be untraceable as to the "source" which caused any given case... really a diabolical MO of "slow kill" population reduction. All I can advise future cancer patients, is run don't walk from the Western "cancer treatment" racket... it seems like a death sentence, with some significant wealth transfer to the racketeers on the patient's way out.

Besides the recent Shimatsu interview Rense posted, he also posted this recent interview, lots of practical radiation advice,
NEW
Michael Collins
Radiation Update
11.7.11
Free MP3 - Listen
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/audio_icon.gif (http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Coliins_110711.mp3)

beefsteak
11th November 2011, 11:59 AM
I'm linking a thread I created on this very subject, here:

Stuxnet confirmed in Japan Bad form or no, I'll bump it up as well.

SCREW BAD FORM, DMAC.

Putterup'ere, DMAC. Any time. Any Day.

We're all boiling frog/dying in this nuke soup as it is.

Personally, I appreciated your Stuxnet link posting here.

You know what that ole gospel song the Gaithers usta sing a lot: "If I can help somebody as as I travel on......"


beefsteak

EDIT: Found the Lyrics...

If I Can Help Somebody :
If I can help somebody, as I pass along,
If I can cheer somebody, with a word or song,
If I can show somebody, how they're travelling wrong,
Then my living shall not be in vain.

Chorus:
My living shall not be in vain,
Then my living shall not be in vain
If I can help somebody, as I pass along,
Then my living shall not be in vain.

If I can do my duty, as a good man ought,
If I can bring back beauty, to a world up wrought,
If I can spread love's message, as the Master taught,
Then my living shall not be in vain.
---old Gospel Song

beefsteak
15th November 2011, 02:35 AM
FINALLY..........some SOLID, achieveable, measurable NUTRITIONAL REMEDIATION advice from one of the biggies carrying the warning banner in this FUKUSHIMA DEVASTATING HORRIFIC depopulation event.

Comes from Dr. Chris Busby! THANK YOU, CHRIS!!!

[quote]

Calcium and other supplements to protect against internal radiation
Chris Busby
7th Nov 2011

The Fukushima catastrophe has focused interest on the health effects of exposure tointernal radionuclides. The whole of northern Japan has to a greater or lesser extentbeen contaminated with a range of fission-product radionuclides, neutron activation radionuclides and components of the reactors, Plutonium and Uranium isotopes.These are all the same contaminants which were released by the Chernobyl catastrophe and the long term health effects are serious, as shown by the epidemiological research into the Chernobyl-affected territories.

These are described in ECRR2010, Busby et al 2011, Yablokov and Busby 2009 and Yablokov et al 2009.According to ECRR2010, the effects are all due to the enhanced genotoxicity of certain internal radionuclides, in particular, Strontium90,
Strontium89,
Barium140,
Uranium 238, 235 and 234,
Plutonium239 and 238 and perhaps
Caesium 137 and 134.

The reason for the enhanced genotoxicity of these contaminants is that they have significant chemical affinity for the DNA, both somatic and germline which evidence shows is the main target for radiation genotoxicity.

It should be noted that the currently used risk model of the ICRP does not add any special enhancement hazard factors for internal radionuclides and assesses health outcomes purely on the basis of absorbed dose, making no allowance for enhanced ionisation near the DNA.

For this reason, people living in highly contaminated areasof Japan have been told that since their absorbed dose is not much different from background, no ill health will be found. This is the same argument employed after Chernobyl, and it is now shown by many hundreds of studies to be false.

The purpose of this short note is to suggest that taking certain elemental supplements, notably Calcium, will have a radioprotective effect and will reduce the effects of exposure to the main harmful elements contaminating the air, the food, the dairy products and the water.

The Mechanism
The human body uses various elements for various purposes. Consequently, the local concentration at the cell level or below of these elements is not uniform. It is an interesting, curious and well known fact that the body does not employ any element with an atomic number greater than Zinc (Z=30) except for Iodine (Z= 53) which concentrates in the Thyroid gland and circulates in the blood.

Since the absorption of gamma radiation is proportional to the 5th
power of the atomic number, and since most of the body is water, with an effective atomic number of Z = 8 (Oxygen) it is immediately predictable that the Thyroid gland, owing to its Iodine content would absorb huge amounts of radiation compared with other parts of the body. And the thyroid is, of course, the most radiosensitive organ. In order to block access of Radioactive Iodine 131 (and other radioiodines) authorities give out stable (nonradioactive) iodine tablets. In fact, at Fukushima, it now turns out this did not happen.Nevertheless the idea is correct.

The structures and molecular sites in the body which bind specific chemical elements are not always completely saturated. Therefore vacant sites can be and will be attached to by elements which have access to them; if these elements are the stable elements which are normally bound to the site, the chemical equilibrium laws will ensure saturation so long as there is an excess of the particular element.

There are anumber of physico-chemical descriptions, adsorption isotherms, equilibrium equations and so forth but the idea is straightforward. For ionic equilibria the laws of mass action apply in dilute solution.

If there exist near the active sites radionuclide ions which mimic the natural elementor ion then these will substitute at the site.

The site of interest here in this discussion is primarily the phosphate backbone of the DNA which normally is stabilised by dipositive Calium, Ca++ or Magnesium Mg++.Ions which mimic these but are radioactive are Ca45++, Ba140++, Sr90++ andSr89++, UO2++ (uranyl) and Plutonium complex ions.Therefore, taking supplements of stable calcium will ensure that the active sites at theDNA are filled with stable Calcium and this will inhibit the binding of the other radioactive materials. This idea is particularly attractive since

(a)
Calcium tablets are harmless and completely non toxic

(b)
Calcium tablets are available from health food shops which usually combine them with magnesium

(c)
A number of research studies with rodents carried out during the Sr90 contamination in the global weapons fallout period showed that Ca supplements drove out Strontium90 (see below).

Therefore the theoretical prediction is shown to be broadly right.

The presence of Sr-90 in weapons fallout was considered at the time (1959-63) to represent a serious danger to health, and indeed we now know that these exposures were the cause of the cancer epidemic which began some twenty years after the tests.

Because of the (justified) fears, a number of studies were carried out on the use of stable Calcium and Strontium to block the absorption of Sr-90 and other Calcium mimics which were radioactive. I refer to Spencer et al 1967 who showed the method worked in humans and Palmer et al 1958 and Kawin 1959 who demonstrated that it worked in rats.

The dose regime
Studies with rodents show that the main problem is with individuals which have low Calcium levels. The most important thing is therefore to ensure that the individual’s Calcium levels are not below the natural or normal level. Beyond this, taking greater doses of Calcium have a diminishing effect on Strontium 90 build up as measured by the activity in bone. Therefore it is proposed that for an adult, no more than two tablets containing 800mg Calcium Lactate and 350mg Magnesium oxide are taken once day, and one tablet is probably sufficient to ensure that there is no deficiency in Calcium ionic strength at the DNA. Calcium is an important component of physiological makeup and the concentrations are regulated by various complex systems. However, loading up the Calcium at the gut level will generally ensure that there is sufficient Calcium present to reduce the effects of radioactive Calcium ion mimics in the body.

For children, the doses should be reduced in proportion to the child’s weight.

These substances are non toxic, but one caution is necessary. Some of the preparations sold have Vitamin D added. These should not be given to children under the age of 14 for long periods of time.

Finally, following Fukushima it wouldbe prudent to have the brand of calcium supplement tested for the presence of Strontium-90 and uranium. A number of Sr90 and U free Calcium preparations will be available on the internet soon, but it would be possible to find a company and send some tablets for analysis, and then stick to that brand.


Other supplements
I would suggest that a daily dose of 2mg of Caesium Carbonate or chloride of some soluble caesium salt would, on the same basis, reduce the concentration of radiocaesiums. These appear to concentrate in muscle, and their effects on heart muscle appears to be significant.

Bandashevsky has shown that in the Chernobyl fallout territories children have suffered arrythmias and heart attacks at Caesium loadings of 50Bq/kg.

Unfortunately, the laws prohibit the sale of such tablets despite the fact that Caesium is totally non toxic at these levels.

Lastly, I would suggest taking daily selenium tablets 100ug (adult dose). Selenium isa sulphur mimic and its substitution for sulphur causes the cell to be fooled (due to theZ^5 photoelectron effect) and increase the rate of DNA repair through reactive oxygen enzyme potentiation. This has been shown to give a large radio protectiveeffect in many rodent studies.

Finally
My advice is to evacuate from areas where the external gamma dose rate is greater than 0.3uSv/h at 1m above the ground. This will signal the existence of significant contamination which will represent an inhalation hazard. I have shown this by analysis of vehicle air filters.

The idea of supplements is to make the best of a bad decision or a forced decision to remain. Avoid Dairy produce (milk, cheese). Avoid any shellfish or mollusks from the east coast of Japan. Fish is probably OK, especially pelagic fish. Measure radioactivity in the food you eat and avoid foods which are contaminated.

Do not believe the authorities in Japan or the spokesmen of the international risk agencies (ICRP, IAEA, UNSCEAR, WHO); their advice is wrong.

It is possible to measure radioactivity in food with a Geiger counter that can be stopped and started (not all of them allow this).

Make up some lead shielding using roofing lead about 2 inches thick. Put the food in a shallow dish, use a long count time and compare with an equal weight of water.

Anything that gives three times background is suspect.

Take control of your lives and look after yourself and your children.No one else will.

Good luck and lots of love
Chris

gunDriller
15th November 2011, 07:14 AM
Make up some lead shielding using roofing lead about 2 inches thick. Put the food in a shallow dish, use a long count time and compare with an equal weight of water.

sometimes a scrap metal company will sell lead at cost ... 46 cents a pound.

i guess the idea is to make a lead box to shut out background radiation, then you put the food & the Geiger Counter sensor in there ?

i'm not sure about using water for a baseline measurement - since it could be Fukushima-ized water - seems like it would need to be from a pre-March-11-stash.

Golden
15th November 2011, 07:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q1TsbDkdlE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q1TsbDkdlE
Uploaded by ichicax4 on Nov 4, 2011
High graphs for past 2-3 days, November 2 til now...especially Phoenix & TX, which corresponds to jet stream analysis. Reactor #2 hole is LARGE and not being explained. New criticalities and then retraction from TEPCO. New Purple flashes on camera. Forecast for this weekend.

Link to EPA graphs here:
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/12/realtime-epa-radnet-japan-nuclear...

See jet stream here for past, present, future:
http://squall.sfsu.edu/scripts/namjetstream_model_fcst.html

Rainfall forecast from NOAA:
http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/p120i12.gif

See reactor vid of giant hole:
http://www.youtube.com/user/nuckelchenblogde#p/u/0/W5gAaP1QOdU

See purple flashes here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/nuckelchenblogde#p/u/7/IfmIkKMHTAU

beefsteak
15th November 2011, 09:38 AM
Awesome GFS Animated Jet Stream Forecast Link --5 days into future
provided above.

Factual, no bs, empowering. KEEP THIS ONE HANDY, People, Please.

THANK YOU!

http://squall.sfsu.edu/scripts/namjetstream_model_fcst.html

beefsteak
15th November 2011, 09:49 AM
Golden Snake,
THANKS!

LINK CORRECTION HERE for your first posted link above, bro.

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/12/realtime-epa-radnet-japan-nuclear-radiation-monitoring-every-us-city-single-page-16511/

Daily EPA/RADNET Updates in CPM for every major City in USA.

I'd forgotten about Andrew Higgins blog. Good to be reminded. The link in Golden Snake's msg for this didn't work for me so I went poking around.

My link above is the current one.


beefsteak

beefsteak
15th November 2011, 10:24 AM
sometimes a scrap metal company will sell lead at cost ... 46 cents a pound.

i guess the idea is to make a lead box to shut out background radiation, then you put the food & the Geiger Counter sensor in there ?

i'm not sure about using water for a baseline measurement - since it could be Fukushima-ized water - seems like it would need to be from a pre-March-11-stash.

Gunny,
no guesswork about this info from Busby.

What the good Busby man gave us is a scaled down, but still scientifically defensible LAB PROTOCOL for individual use, okay?

Don't pick it apart, don't guess about it, don't debate it, just do it is my strongly worded suggestion.

There's a time to be jaded and a time to "git 'er done already"....this is the latter, okay, buddy?

I'm making 3 boats. TODAY.

And I'm using easily available plumber's lead from the local hardware store.
Safer than risking automobile/truck tires to the god knows what puncturing scrap is at the local scrap yard.

Sold by the pound. Looks like steel wool only it isn't. Very maleable, formable, compressable. My hardware store has an open box of it on the shelf, and you reach in, pinch off some, weigh it, and you're on your way. If you want to decontam it, wash it in warm soapy water, rinse, add baking soda, swish around thoroughly and rinse again, set aside to drain and dry, before forming into lead boats.

After boat is formed, consider using something like cupcake paper liners from the grocery store to place inside boat, before adding item to be tested onto the dimpled lead surface.

More about testing and sampling in a later post, since a 2 inch cubed lead boat doesn't hold much "lettuce," beef, chicken, milk etc. Make a 2" thick boat and form it around a glass baby food jar. DON'T EAT THE CONTENTS of the babyfood first either.:o


wrt: your water commentary...

As far as the water is concerned, water can be ridded of radionuclides by known and available to individuals methods, discussed earlier on this forum. Namely, filtration, Reverse Osmosis, then Distillation.

So, this can be a baseline of baselines.

Additionally, "historical background counts" info is available on the net per region, on folks' blogs such as the rad-net image John Q Public stickied on this Jap Forum. Use those background or USC-Berkely Nuke Department numbers when measuring CPM in "control sample" water.

Those posts can be found here earlier on this thread.


beefsteak

beefsteak
15th November 2011, 10:30 AM
GS'ers, if I may be permitted a small, but heartfelt rant here:

IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS HOLY WHY HAS IT TAKEN 9 MONTHS for this highly personalized, adaptable, doable scientifically and analytically defensible RADIATION DETECTION testing protocol for food, water, and small external exposed items to get handed down to the plebes like ME and My family? It's not like I've not been searching, looking,
convinced of the danger of being mercilessly and callously nuked since 3/11/2011.

It's not like radiation monitoring was invented by Fukushima on 3/10/2010 and then they had their "ooops" moment within 24 hours and the Japs didnt' have time to "issue the memo...."

While I appreciate the Busby's, the Caldicotts, the Gundersons, and others,
THIS totally doable and scientifically defensible analytical tool/protocol sure wasn't in my Rad Inspector "manual"........

GRRRRRRRR!

I'm so riled up and angry right now, I'm taking a break!

Damned elitest thinkers are on OUR TEAM as well.

IRKS ME NO END to have life-saving TESTING HOW 2 info be withheld from the nuked but awake rest of us by the Gundersons, Busbys, Caldicotts, in-the-know "our own teammates" amongst us!

gunDriller
15th November 2011, 01:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q1TsbDkdlE

See purple flashes here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/nuckelchenblogde#p/u/7/IfmIkKMHTAU


well, it sounds like Fukushima is still sending abundant radiation in our general direction.


i was thinking about how to protect some of my land from radiation rain. the hardware store has these 10x100 rolls for $10, 4 mil clear plastic. i already bought one. that area's about 50 feet wide, it seems wise to invest the $50 and keep a section of land 50 x 100 feet, Fukushima free.

that's a lot cheaper than a green house. if you do your growing during months when it rains very little, and use well-water, you are taking steps towards having Fukushima free food.

beefsteak
18th November 2011, 01:04 PM
This Graphic is definitely worth 1,000 words or 4 trillion unreadable Japanese characters....you chose.

Take a minute and check out the link

Of particular interest is the factoid/captioning indicating the weight of the melted core is
150 Tons....yowzer!!



http://images.scribblelive.com/2011/11/10/224c0058-0032-4a6d-a09e-51de96822d99.jpg

MNeagle
18th November 2011, 01:32 PM
http://images.scribblelive.com/2011/11/10/224c0058-0032-4a6d-a09e-51de96822d99.jpg

beefsteak
18th November 2011, 03:53 PM
Thanks. Sure wish I knew your secret, MN...I couldn't get that ink to "become visible" for love nor money. This new "forum" is simply maddening in its frustrating, counter intuitive, sometimes it shows up, sometimes it doesn't....applications.

So much for progress, eh?

That was right nice of you to make that show up. Deeply appreciated!


beefsteak

gunDriller
22nd November 2011, 06:56 AM
I couldn't read this article on my laptop because of the way it's formatted on Zero-hedge -


http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/fukushima-china-syndrome-inevitable-huge-steam-explosions-or-nuclear-bomb-type-explosion


"I've repeatedly noted that we may experience a "China syndrome" type of accident at Fukushima.

For example, I pointed out in September:

Mainichi Dailly News notes:

As a radiation meteorology and nuclear safety expert at Kyoto University's Research Reactor Institute, Hiroaki Koide [says]:

The nuclear disaster is ongoing.

***

At present, I believe that there is a possibility that massive amounts of radioactive materials will be released into the environment again.

At the No. 1 reactor, there's a chance that melted fuel has burned through the bottom of the pressure vessel, the containment vessel and the floor of the reactor building, and has sunk into the ground. From there, radioactive materials may be seeping into the ocean and groundwater.

***

The government and plant operator TEPCO are trumpeting the operation of the circulation cooling system, as if it marks a successful resolution to the disaster. However, radiation continues to leak from the reactors. The longer the circulation cooling system keeps running, the more radioactive waste it will accumulate. It isn't really leading us in the direction we need to go.

It's doubtful that there's even a need to keep pouring water into the No.1 reactor, where nuclear fuel is suspected to have burned through the pressure vessel. Meanwhile, it is necessary to keep cooling the No. 2 and 3 reactors, which are believed to still contain some fuel, but the cooling system itself is unstable. If the fuel were to become overheated again and melt, coming into contact with water and trigger a steam explosion, more radioactive materials will be released.

***

We are now head to head with a situation that mankind has never faced before.

Mainichi also reports:

The Ground Self-Defense Force (GSDF) and residents of the zone between 20 and 30 kilometers from the stricken Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant held an emergency evacuation drill on Sept. 12 ... in preparation for any further large-scale emission of radioactive materials from the plant.

***

The scenario for the drill presupposed further meltdown of the Fukushima plant’s No. 3 reactor core, and a local accumulation of radioactive materials emitting 20 millisieverts of radiation within the next four days. ...

And nuclear expert Paul Gunter says that we face a "China Syndrome", where the fuel from the reactor cores at Fukushima have melted through the container vessels, into the ground, and are hitting groundwater and creating highly-radioactive steam:

Nuclear expert Arnie Gundersen said recently that a new built up of hydrogen may cause the reactors to explode again:

Hydrogen buildup at Fukushima? What does it mean & why does it happen? from Fairewinds Associates on Vimeo.



Nuclear expert Dr. Ian Fairlie - former scientific secretary to the United Kingdom government’s Committee Examining Radiation Risks from Internal Emitters, who advises the European Parliament as well as local and national authorities in several countries - told Dr. Helen Caldicott:

Really it’s just a matter of time before it [the corium] goes through and into the bottom of the actual station itself. And if it ever hits ground, well… there’s a lot of water sloshing around there, if molten fuel gets into that water it will immediately flash to steam and you will have huge steam explosions going on.

***

I’m not ruling out a nuclear bomb-type explosion”.

And the architect who actually designed Fukushima Reactor No. 3 - Uehara Haruo, former president of Saga University - told popular Japanese news source Live Door on November 17th that (translation courtesy of Fukushima Diary):

In this interview, [Haruo] admitted Tepco’s explanation does not make sense, and that the China syndrome is inevitable.

He stated that considering 8 months have passed since [the March 11th earthquake] without any improvement, it is inevitable that melted fuel went out of the container vessel and sank underground, which is called China syndrome.

He added, if fuel has reaches a underground water vein, it will cause contamination of underground water, soil contamination and sea contamination. Moreover, if the underground water vein keeps being heated for long time, a massive hydrovolcanic explosion will be caused."

beefsteak
22nd November 2011, 11:59 PM
Glass bumped this info a little while ago...thought Mamboni wouldn't mind it being posted here, as well. I had someone ask me just last weekend about this, and I couldn't find where I'd read it. THANKS, DOC.

===================================

Radiation Detoxification with natural foods


Radiation Detoxification
.

With the recent earthquake in Japan, resulting in the instability of several nuclear reactors, many people have been asking what they can do to protect themselves from radiation exposure or poisoning, or what they can do to naturally detoxify their system if they are exposed. The following is a compilation of the research I have been able to find on ways to naturally and safely prevent and/or detoxify your body from radiation exposure/poisoning. I will start out by listing the various protocols that have been shown to be effective, then I will expand on the details.
.
1. Diet consisting mainly of brown rice, miso and seaweed
2. Other additions to the diet

· Spirulina, chlorella and the algaes (kelp, etc.)

· Brassica vegetables and high beta carotene vegetables

· Beans and lentils and other foods high in nucleotide content

· Potassium, magnesium, calcium and mineral rich foods

· cod liver oil and olive oil

· Avoid sugars and sweets and wheat

3. Clay, Sea salt and Baking Soda Baths

4. Homeopathic remedies

5. Schuessler’s Bioplasma
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Diet of brown rice, seaweed and miso
At the time of the atomic bombing, Tatsuichiro Akizuki, M.D. was Director of the Department of Internal Medicine at St. Francis’s Hospital in Nagasaki and he fed his staff and patients a strict diet of brown rice, miso and tamari soy soup, wakame, kombu and other seaweed, Hokkaido pumpkin, and sea salt. He also prohibited the consumption of sugar and sweets since they suppress the immune system. By imposing this diet on his staff and patients, no one succumbed to radiation poisoning whereas the occupants of hospitals located much further away from the blast incident suffered severe radiation fatalities. Much of this positive result has to do with the fact that the sea vegetables contain substances that bind radioactive particles and escort them out of the body.(Tatsuichiro Akuziki, M.D. Nagasaki 1945, London Quarter books, 1981).

Seaweeds are very high in mineral content.

Consuming natural iodine, such as in the seaweeds, helps prevent the uptake of iodine-131,

.....while iron inhibits the absorption of plutonium-238 and plutonium-239.

.....Vitamin B-12 inhibits cobalt-60 uptake.

.....Zinc inhibits zinc-65 uptake and

.....sulfur is preventative for sulfur-35 (a product of nuclear reactors) incorporation by the body.

Sea vegetables can prevent assimilation of different radionuclitides, heavy metals such as cadmium, and other environmental toxins.

“ An experiment conducted by J.F. Stara at the Environmental Protection Agency showed that sodium alginate significantly reduced the amount of radio active strontium in the bones of cats. Stara observed that radio active strontium in the bones is resecreted into the intestines where it is bound by alginate, neutralized then excreted in the stools.”

“There is no family of foods more protective against radiation and environmental pollutants than sea vegetables … sea vegetables can prevent assimilation of different radionuclitides, heavy metals such as cadmium, and other environmental toxins.” Steven Schecter, N.D

Radiation Detoxification – Part 2
.
Yesterday, I listed various protocols for natural radiation detoxification and wrote about the first protocol, explaining why eating a diet rich in seaweeds, miso and brown rice is so important. Today, I will address the second protocol:

Other Additions to the diet

· Spirulina, chlorella and the algaes (kelp, etc.)

· Brassica vegetables and high beta carotene vegetables

· Beans and lentils and other foods high in nucleotide content

· Potassium, magnesium, calcium and mineral rich foods

· Fatty acids, such as cod liver oil and olive oil

· Avoid sugars and sweets and wheat

.Spirulina – After the Chernobyl incident in 1986, the Institute of Radiation Medicine in Minsk proved that children experienced enhanced immune systems, T-cell counts and reduced radioactivity on this protocol: 5 grams of spirulina a day for 45 days. Spirulina can be found in most health food stores.

.Chlorella - It is one of the most widely studied of the algaes and has been described as having the highest chlorophyll content. Animal studies indicate a chlorophyll rich diet increases the survival of experimental animals after lethal doses of radiation. Studies dating back to the 1950’s, including a US Army study, confirm these findings. According Roy Upton, director of the American Herbal Pharmacopeia, the use of chlorella was first developed by the Japanese as an antidote and treatment against atomic radiation.

Chlorella and liquid chlorophyll can also be found in most health food stores.

.Brassica vegetables and high beta carotene vegetables – Cancer researchers have found that all the brassica family plants protect your cells from the damaging effects of radiation. Beta-carotene has also been researched and found to have radio-protective effects. A study conducted on over 700 children exposed to the Chernobyl radiation found that diets high in carotenes significantly reduced DNA damage in humans exposed to radiation. Natural beta- carotene protects against the lipid oxidation and acts as a fatty acid antioxidant radio-protector. Brassica vegetables include broccoli, brussels sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower, swedes, turnips, broccoli raab, collards, cress, kale, kohlrabi, mustard, and bok choi. Beta-carotene can be found in concentrated amounts in foods such as sweet potatoes, carrots, kale, spinach, turnip greens, winter squash, collard greens, cilantro, fresh thyme, cantaloupe, romaine lettuce and broccoli.

.Beans and lentils – These foods have high nucleotide concentrations. Nucleotides are the building blocks that make up RNA and DNA. Nucleotides also carry out several critical functions needed for cell replication, as well as neutralizing toxins, increasing cellular metabolism, improving the response and efficiency of the immune system, enhancing the effects of antioxidants and increase the body’s ability to heal and repair. Other foods high in nucleotides include spirulina, chlorella, algae, yeast, sardines, liver, anchovies and mackerel.
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Potassium, magnesium, calcium and mineral rich foods –
Cesium (one of the radioactive elements released from the nuclear reactor) will be treated by the body as if it were potassium, so a potassium deficiency would tend to make one more receptive to radioactive hazards posed by cesium, says Ingrid Naiman.

Potassium regulation is affected by magnesium and magnesium and calcium need to be in proper balance.

Calcium significantly decreases the amount of Strontium 90 absorbed by bone. Foods high in potassium include apricots, avocado, bananas, cantaloupe, honeydew, kiwi, lima beans, milk, oranges, potatoes, prunes, spinach, tomatoes and winter squash. Greens like spinach and swiss chard, nuts and seeds such as pumpkin, sunflower and sesame, and beans like black and navy, are good sources of dietary magnesium. Most of the foods above also contain calcium, especially the dark green leafy vegetables, along with cheese, fish and yogurt.

.Fatty acids, such as cod liver oil and olive oil – Two studies from Spain (Ilbanez and Castellanos) showed that olive oil fully protected rats against increasing doses of damaging X-ray irradiation. Other research has shown that in terms of radiation, mice exposed to large doses of radiation survived 50-100% longer than normal if fed cod liver oil.
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Avoid sugars, sweets and wheat – This one probably does not need much explanation, but I will summarize by saying that after radiation exposure, the last thing you want to do is eat foods that have been proven to lower your immune function.

http://www.herbsofgrace.com/Blog/201...etoxification/ (http://www.herbsofgrace.com/Blog/2011/03/16/radiation-detoxification/)

lapis
25th November 2011, 09:40 AM
Bumpity-bump.

beefsteak
25th November 2011, 01:17 PM
thought you might have "fallen in" Lapis.:o

Good to see you. ;D Have a nice Thanksgiving?


back to being beefsteak :cool:

beefsteak
25th November 2011, 01:30 PM
I'm still musing over some of Yoichi's didactic, revelatory statements of Monday Nov 14th Rense live radio interview. (Sorry, no link...I listened live.)

1) The primary reason we are not seeing the stuffed full, body bag photo-bytes (especially in Fukushima prefecture itself) is due to the Medical University there in Fuku. and their morgue being the primary depository of over a thousand corpse, chillin' and glowin'.
(How'd one like to have one of your own kids, neices, nephews, professors, administrative support staff, etc., a student at that particular med school?????)

Creative temporary solution, yes, and Yoichi spoke to how that particular insititution is overflowing with the chillin' and glowin' in particular.

2) Yoichi stated in that interview that his own uncle had passed over, and he certain it is due to the phenomenon of radiated during WWII now getting their second massive dose overcoming the elderly so negatively radiated in the first place.

3) Yoichi spoke to the highly touted "Fukushima official" paraded in front of the press whom we all saw and thought he was nuts...yes, the one eating wonderful radiated vegatables and tomatoes, now in his last few days of life, due to (direct quote) "rare, adult onset leukemia" from such a fool-hardy, take one for the team photo op.

When I hear him speak, I'm again reminded of his towering credentials as a journalist of over 40 years in Japan, and now residing in Hong Kong.

There's some "grist" for the threadmill on this horrific, ongoing nucleating crisis, Lapis.

keehah
25th November 2011, 11:08 PM
TEPCO: Radioactive substances belong to landowners, not us (http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2011/11/tepco-radioactive-substances-belong-to.html)

By TOMOHIRO IWATA / Asahi Shimbun Weekly AERA FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 25, 2011

During court proceedings concerning a radioactive golf course, Tokyo Electric Power Co. stunned lawyers by saying the utility was not responsible for decontamination because it no longer "owned" the radioactive substances.

“Radioactive materials (such as cesium) that scattered and fell from the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant belong to individual landowners there, not TEPCO,” the utility said.

That argument did not sit well with the companies that own and operate the Sunfield Nihonmatsu Golf Club, just 45 kilometers west of the stricken TEPCO plant in Fukushima Prefecture.

The Tokyo District Court also rejected that idea.

But in a ruling described as inconsistent by lawyers, the court essentially freed TEPCO from responsibility for decontamination work, saying the cleanup efforts should be done by the central and local governments.

Although the legal battle has moved to a higher court, observers said that if the district court’s decision stands and becomes a precedent, local governments' coffers could be drained...

The golf course has been out of operation since March 12, the day after the Great East Japan Earthquake and tsunami set off the nuclear crisis.

The companies wanted to reopen the course in July, but radiation levels, checked by the Nihonmatsu municipal government in June, were above the national safety limits.

On Aug. 10, a level of 2.91 microsieverts per hour was recorded 10 centimeters above ground at the tee of the sixth hole. The level was 51.1 microsieverts per hour near a drainage ditch in a parking space for golf carts, a level comparable to the Ottozawa area of Okuma, 2.4 km from the plant.

But TEPCO questioned the reliability of these figures.

“There is room for doubt about the ability of the measuring equipment the city used and the accuracy of the records,” it said.

TEPCO even suggested that the levels of contamination at the golf course would not pose a problem: “There are sites overseas with an annual reading of 10 millisieverts of natural radiation."

The district court on Oct. 31 not only rejected TEPCO’s argument that radioactive fallout belongs to individual landowners, it also said the city’s radioactivity measurements were credible.

Moreover, the court ruled that companies have the right to demand decontamination work by TEPCO.

But the court went on to say that central or local governments should be responsible for the decontamination work, given the efficiency of their cleanup operations so far.

The district court also rejected the companies' demand for compensation, saying the golf course operations could have been resumed because the radiation levels were below 3.8 microsieverts per hour, the yardstick set by the science ministry in April for authorizing the use of schoolyards.

The golf course companies immediately appealed the district court's decision.

Lawyers said operations were suspended at the golf course because of potential health risks to employees and customers.

“It is only natural that an employer take into account the health of its employees,” one of the lawyers said...

lapis
27th November 2011, 05:48 PM
thought you might have "fallen in" Lapis.:o

I still monitor the debacle, mainly through Enenews.com, and have noticed that the radiation in Japan is being detected (well at least reported) ever southward. Meanwhile, my family members are STILL stuck in Japan, so I can't really focus on this for too long or else I get (even more) mad.


Good to see you. ;D Have a nice Thanksgiving? Thanks. Yes, I couldn't complain as there were very few of the more annoying in-laws in attendance. Hope you had a good one. :)

Serpo
29th November 2011, 02:07 PM
Japanese Convince Me Fukushima Is Genocide

November 28, 2011


http://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/japanesepupils.jpg(left, Japanese students clean their own classrooms)

Teaching in a Japanese school, Howard Francis is amazed at how cohesive they are as a people. He speculates that Fukushima was designed by the NWO to break them down.



by Howard Francis
(henrymakow.com)

I am currently teaching ESL at a Japanese school located in China.

The experience has taught me that the Japanese have a very strong and independent culture. This is presumably due to their isolationist history.

When I first arrived, I was shocked by how civilized the Japanese are in comparison to the Chinese. As I walk through the school, every child and member of staff smiles at me, bows their head and says "Hello, Mr. David."

The classes are easy to teach. The children have a positive attitude and want to excel. Children who cause trouble are ostracized by the other kids!

In one of the rare moments when a class gets out of control, rather than shouting, my Japanese co-teacher says in a measured tone, 'your behavior is not polite and you are insulting this school and your family.' All the children hang their head in shame.

The students have various chores they need to fulfill. They have to clean the school during break and lunch times, including the toilets. There is no vacuum cleaner; the children clean the carpets with an adhesive tape!

This might sound strict but the children carry out their chores with gusto. They enjoy being in an environment they respect. (In contrast, the rich Chinese children I have taught are uncivilized. Called "little emperors" by the indulgent grandparents that raise them, they are rude, unpredictable and constantly demand attention.)

There is a big push on for being healthy and energetic. Various posters tell the students how to eat well. After one of my classes, I was amazed to see all the children and staff go downstairs, get on their trainers and hit the track! They are training for a marathon.

The gender relations between the teenagers are healthy. In my teenage classes, the boys and girls are very modest and shy. When I assign a 'free talk' task, they segregate fast.


NEGATIVES


A big negative of working with the Japanese is that they ostracize you for being an outsider. Despite teaching 11 classes a week, I am frequently told that I am a 'guest'. I have to work in a different office than the Japanese staff and I am not allowed to use any school equipment including computers.

I have had various fallings-out because I broke one of their 10 million invisible rules. In one incident, I was chastised for borrowing a mug from the school nurse. It turns out that her mugs can only be used by students receiving medical treatment. Although she gave me the mug, I was judged to have somehow intimidated her. I was asked by management to bring my own mug to school.

In Japanese schools you cannot wear your normal shoes inside the building. When I first arrived they put me in a pair of rock hard sandals and after half an hour of teaching I couldn't feel my feet. I leant on the desk to get some relief, but was told this is a grievous insult in Japan. It means you feel superior and are looking down on the students in disdain.

When I explained that I could barely walk, my monitor kept repeating, while nodding and smiling in an unhinged way, 'we must respect the Japanese custom.'They really struggle to understand a non-Japanese perspective.

Japanese culture is about conformity to a thick web of manners, and this makes it inherently exclusive and conservative.

They are very unified, functional and self-sufficient. This is illustrated by Japan's very low immigration rates. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenharner/2011/04/09/in-defense-of-japans-immigration-policy-1/)


OBSTACLE TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER?


The Japanese people will not willingly join the heterogeneous and atomized world citizenry planned by the New World Order.

This has led me to wonder if the Fukushima nuclear crisis was an Illuminati attack designed to wipe these people out? Or at least fatally demoralize them?

In his book 'The Fugu Plan', Rabbi Marvin Tokayer reveals declassified documents that show the WW2 Japanese elite were not privy (http://www.henrymakow.com/japanese_tried_to_make_deal_wi.html) to the Illuminati agenda. They probably still are.

The Japanese Emperor has been known to have meetings with David Rockefeller but, symbolically, he is currently in hospital and rumored to be suffering from radiation poisoning after visiting Fukushima. (http://thehivedaily.com/blog/2011/11/17/japans-emperor-to-remain-in-hospital-for-fever-cough-is-he-sick-with-radiation/)

I view Fukushima as a slow kill attack on the Japanese people, working on two main fronts. Firstly, the radiation will cripple Japan. It is reported that the radiation leaking out in Fukushima is 33x worse than Chernobyl! (http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/11/namie-machi-fukushima-is-33-times-worse-than-chernobyl/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FukushimaDiary+%28Fukushima+D iary%29)

This will make the country increasingly inhospitable, grievously damage the economy and drain the willpower of the people. Mongolia has just banned the import new Japanese cars due to radiation fears.

Secondly, the cost of repairing the country will bankrupt the Japanese government. A professor at the University of Tokyo has estimated that it will cost $10 trillion to clean up the mess, a price that would bankrupt Japan (http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article31520.html) many times over.

The disaster will weaken Japan over the coming decades, forcing it to become subordinate to a EU-style Asia-Pacific bloc (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7437090.stm).

Watching television footage of the smoking Fukushima power plant, are we witnessing ethnic cleansing on an unprecedented scale?

------

Alan Spickard Adds:

I agree. The nuclear "accident" in Japan seems to be genocidal in design posing to weaken the DNA structure of its people to premature pathogens and degenerative diseases resulting in shorter life spans in creating a radical population reduction there. This genocidal action may have been in the works for sometime, even as far back as the Second World War, as the "fire-bombing" in Japan on civilian targets was unconscionable.


To wit, General Bonner Fellers, an adviser to Gen. MacArthur, wrote that the U.S. bombing of Japan was among "the most ruthless and barbaric killings of non-combatants in all history" (The Real War by Benjamin Schwarz, p. 102).



Japan's Emperor was not quite the narcissist thought to be despite the unnecessary request for "unconditional surrender" by the U.S. Government, as he surrendered sooner than what the U.S. may have anticipated...


Were it not for the Emperor's amazing courage, millions more Japanese would have been killed (World War II, by Richard Marbury, p.272) as.... another 48 atomic bombs were scheduled for production--- seven per month--- by the head of the Manhattan Project, General Leslie R. Groves... and Groves had been ordered by the U.S. Government to drop them all on Japan! (Day One by Peter Wyden, p.15-17).



What is interesting is that this Fukushima event in Japan was predicted by the Illuminati Card Game by Steven Jackson. This game was introduced in the early 1980's to underline its prescience. Many informed folks believe that HAARP,
or "high altitude auroral research project" capabilities, can easily create customized earthquakes nearly anywhere in the world, which precipitated this disaster.



I would not be surprised that Japan may the first nation to meet the protocols of the Georgia Guidestones in which 90% of its population will be eliminated in the future thanks to HAARP related technology (As an aside, the United States is also scheduled for a 90% reduction... which may precede the Japanese prototype... as its means of doing so in the U.S. is a different model).



Indeed, in 1966, Professor Gordon MacDonald published a book, Unless Peace Comes, in which he wrote about "military environmental control techniques," or HAARP. Unbelievably, MacDonald went on to describe "earthquake engineering and ocean wave control."


This was 45 years ago. So this parallel technology has been around for some time
completely unknown to the public for the most part... as much of the very advanced parallel technology is!



You can read more about MacDonald and HAARP from my website:
http://www.spickardssigns.com/february2010brief.htm and here:
http://www.spickardssigns.com/april2010brief.htm

(http://www.spickardssigns.com/april2010brief.htm)
It is a good idea to have a strong faith in God as a refuge in these days as

the Apostle Paul described this Era as "dangerous." They are proving to be just that.

http://www.henrymakow.com/japan_1.html

Serpo
29th November 2011, 02:09 PM
U.S. to restart construction of nuclear reactors

After 34 years, the United States is expected to resume construction of nuclear reactors by the end of the year, and Toshiba will export turbine equipment for the reactors to the U.S. early next month, it was learned Saturday.
By The Yomiuri Shimbun (http://search.nwsource.com/search?searchtype=cq&sort=date&from=ST&byline=The%20Yomiuri%20Shimbun)

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TOKYO — After 34 years, the United States is expected to resume construction of nuclear reactors by the end of the year, and Toshiba will export turbine equipment for the reactors to the U.S. early next month, it was learned Saturday.
According to sources, construction will begin by year-end on the Nos. 3 and 4 reactors of the Alvin W. Vogtle Electric Generating Plant in Georgia and the Nos. 2 and 3 reactors of the Virgil C. Summer Nuclear Generating Station in South Carolina.
The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission is expected to shortly approve the construction and operation of the reactors, which have been designed by Westinghouse, a subsidiary of Toshiba.
The decision to resume construction of reactors is expected to pave the way for Japan to export related equipment to the United States, observers said.
The reactors to be constructed are of the AP1000 type, an advanced 1,100-megawatt pressurized water reactor, and are targeted to go into operation in 2016 at the earliest.
The AP1000 can better withstand disasters — the outer structure is so strong it can handle the impact of a large airplane crashing into it — and is designed to automatically cool down over a 72-hour period even after external power is lost. Four AP1000 reactors are currently being built in China.
Toshiba will export to the United States core equipment for the reactors that helps convert steam back to water, the sources said.
Before the construction of a reactor can begin, it needs to receive a final safety-assessment report from the NRC as well as NRC approval for its construction and operation.
The NRC issued final safety-assessment reports for the four reactors in the summer after the onset of the crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear-power plant in Japan.
U.S. electric-power companies, which plan to construct the four reactors, already have started procuring equipment and have entered the final stage in preparation for the construction of the four reactors, as the utilities are likely to receive NRC approval soon.
The United States has 104 reactors in operation, making the country the world's largest nuclear-energy producer. However, after the Three Mile Island nuclear-power-plant meltdown in 1979, construction of new nuclear-power plants was suspended.
Former U.S. President George W. Bush, who called for less dependence on Middle East oil, shifted policy toward resumption of construction of nuclear-power plants.
Since 2007, many electric-power companies have applied to build new nuclear-power plants. The NRC is currently screening 26 new reactors.
Following the meltdowns at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear-power plant, the NRC placed priority on safety assessments for existing nuclear-power plants, delaying the screening of new projects.
No construction on reactors has been carried out in the United States since January 1978.
Capitalizing on the planned construction of the four reactors, the Toshiba-Westinghouse alliance will try to secure more orders for advanced reactors from other countries.


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MNeagle
30th November 2011, 09:20 PM
Study Shows Worse Picture of Meltdown in Japan

TOKYO — Molten nuclear fuel may have bored into the floor of at least one of the reactors at the stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, the complex’s operator said Wednesday, citing a new simulation of the accident that crippled the plant in March.

The simulation suggested that the meltdown may have been more severe than had previously been thought.

Soon after the an earthquake and a tsunami on March 11 knocked out cooling systems at the power plant, nuclear fuel rods in three of its six reactors overheated and slumped, the operator, the Tokyo Electric Power Company (http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/index-e.html), has said.

In the No. 1 reactor, the overheated fuel may have eroded the primary containment vessel’s thick concrete floor, and it may have gotten almost within a foot of a crucial steel barrier, the utility said the new simulation suggested. Beneath that steel layer is a concrete basement, which is the last barrier before the fuel would have begun to penetrate the earth.

Some nuclear experts have warned that water from a makeshift cooling system now in place at the plant may not be able to properly cool any nuclear fuel that may have seeped into the concrete. The new simulation may call into question the efforts to cool and stabilize the reactor, but the Tokyo Electric Power Company, or Tepco, says it is not worried more than eight months after the accident.

The findings are the latest in a series of increasingly grave scenarios presented by Tepco about the state of the reactors. The company initially insisted that there was no breach at any of the three most-damaged reactors; it later said that there might have been a breach, but that most of the nuclear fuel had remained within the containment vessels.

“This is still an overly optimistic simulation,” said Hiroaki Koide, an assistant professor of physics at the Kyoto University Research Reactor Institute (http://www.rri.kyoto-u.ac.jp/en/), who has been a vocal critic of Tepco’s lack of disclosure of details of the disaster. Tepco would very much like to say that the outermost containment is not completely compromised and that the meltdown stopped before the outer steel barrier, he said, “but even by their own simulation, it’s very borderline.”

“I have always argued that the containment is broken, and that there is the danger of a wider radiation leak,” Mr. Koide said. “In reality, it’s impossible to look inside the reactor, and most measurement instruments have been knocked out. So nobody really knows how bad it is.”

Still, a spokesman for Tepco, Junichi Matsumoto, said Wednesday that the nuclear fuel was no longer eating into the concrete, and that the new simulation would not affect efforts to bring the reactors to a stable state known as a “cold shutdown” by the end of the year.

“The containment vessel as a whole is being cooled, so there is no change to our outlook,” Mr. Matsumoto said at a news conference.

The nuclear accident at the Fukushima Daiichi plant, the worst since Chernobyl, triggered fuel meltdowns at three of its six reactors and a huge radiation leak that has displaced as many as 100,000 people. The Japanese government has said some areas around the plant will be uninhabitable for decades.

Tepco based the simulation on projections of decay heat released by the nuclear fuel and other estimates. The results suggest that the uranium fuel rods at the No. 1 reactor were most badly damaged, Mr. Matsumoto said, because it lost cooling water before the other two reactors did. The fuel rods were exposed for several hours before fire trucks could pump in emergency seawater.

Because the simulation suggests that heat released as a result of radioactive decay “far overwhelmed” the effect of the cooling water, he said, and because temperatures in the inner pressure vessel that originally housed the fuel are thought to have dropped quickly, Tepco now assumes that “100 percent of the fuel at Unit 1 has slumped” into the outer primary containment vessel.

In addition, the simulation suggests that the fuel bored more than two feet into the concrete, Mr. Matsumoto said.

At Units 2 and 3, the initial cooling efforts were more successful, he said, and a smaller amount of fuel is thought to have escaped the pressure vessels and into the primary containment vessels.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/01/world/asia/meltdown-in-japan-may-have-been-worse-than-thought.html?_r=1

Golden
1st December 2011, 07:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl6I21nZGvY
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Fukushima Daiichi Nr. 4. : 11/30/2011 Thank you aristoman007

Golden
1st December 2011, 11:44 AM
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267 days in the making...

beefsteak
2nd December 2011, 12:25 PM
clinoptilolite !!!

Golden
6th December 2011, 10:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KZtXI6r4oE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KZtXI6r4oE
Uploaded by nuckelchenblogde on Dec 6, 2011

The plot thickens.

beefsteak
7th December 2011, 09:48 AM
clinoptilolite !!!

This has been a slow grind trying to get to the bottom of this rabbit hole, progress is being made!

Clinoptilolite is THE zeolite ordered en masse' by the Russian govt post Chernobyl. It was incorporated into:
1) milkshakes
2) cookies
3) candies
4) chocolate bars
to get this health restoring CLINO-zeo into the humans for miles around.

There are 85 natural and synthetic zeo's on the planet currently known. This particular one, clinoptilolite, is abundant in it's particular deposits. Ponce may be interested to learn, one is in nearby Cuba...for all the good it is doing to blockaded US consumers.

The best mined deposit is Bulgarian, to this day.

Why clino?

The honeycomb structure (also referred to as "cage") of this particular zeo has been scientifically evaluated to be the best at snagging the radioactive cesium and strontium ions partially due to this particular structure.
The other reason it is so effective at snagging these harmful ions is due to it's weak magnetic charge, which, when an harmful ionizing particle is snagged, it "ain't comin' back out" and therefore can be passed through the human waste removal system.

Yes, multilevel marketers are making a killing on packaging this. I've seen some retailers seeking $160 PER MONTH for their particular affiliate bloated downline to package and distribute this 30 day supply of their clino product.

Swanson's turns their clino- into a tincture of sorts...and wants you to take 1-3 drops 3 x a day with clear water. Any guesses as to how much clino- is in 1 drop?

Is this Swanson being chintzy? Or is clino that powerful in small amounts, tincturized? Who knows? It's taken me 9 months to get at the truth about what truthfully will help. I'm still drilling down on efficacious amounts, etc.

Bulgarian clino- IS acquired by the thieving MLM crowd at $2 a pound, in 90% pure form...the remainder 10% = clay, a topic we've covered on this thread priorly in the "french green clay" discussions.

Yes, it's offered on eBay...but who knows what one is buying when surveying ebay. Could be ground up bleached silica/playsand repackaged from Home Depot for all I know.

It is 1st person reported to me that the Japanese govt is very interested in this particular bulgarian zeolite. Hmmm...wonder why.

It is my opinion, based upon the slow to respond and the TEPCO incestuous interests, that the govt level expressed interest is NOT primarily of an altruistic motivation. Makes me mad.

Here it is 9 months...and I've been hunting...down on my lowly plebecite level trying to get my hands on SOMETHING that will help in a positive and restorative manner all this airborne and now food chain--land and sea--poisoned Fukushima radioactive dispersal.

Finally, this is something that can return milk and milk products, and feeding of poultry for meat and eggs into the rather monotonous dietary regime me and my household have strictly followed since 3/11.

Primarily available as a "soil amendment" in order to escape the wrath and control of the FDA, this zeolite has other commercial applications.

One I found most curious in my research is the following:
Clino- has been added for several decades to MIDDLE EASTERN SOFTDRINKs currently still being supplied by street vendors.

It is astounding to believe this supplement has basically purified the MIDDLE EASTERN BELLY AND BODIES under those corpulent flowing white robes of the towel-heads. And then there are the guzzlin' Zionists which have also been consuming this for decades, both creating a "therapeutic dosage level" over time, over and against what we all know is coming down in the middle east. Sooner rather than later.

I'm simply astounded at uncovering this level of stealth preparation by TPTB in this nucleated societal class.

And those of us plebes, west coast to east coast, north border to southern border...by and large, have NOT been
informed, primarily due to the FDA's guidelines about what can be discussed, claimed, etc.

I'm still after more specifics, and have tried to upload an actual, electron microscopic image of the zeiolite "cage/structure" from bulgarian deposit. Been thwarted, so I'll figure out a way to get it up somehow.

Anyhow, me and my family are breathing a sigh of relief for now being able to bring back into our lives milk products for my wife's baking most especially, as well as ability to "clean up and protect poultry on the hoof" so to speak.

Today is a great day of rejoicing in my household.

Today, I am Bulgarian. And I'm going to find one, if at all possible, and give a manly hug to if at all possible!

Busby's testing protocol has now come to the surface. Scientifically defensible and individually doable.
Chorella and Flax seed consumption has come into foreground.
There's the rather complicated Japanese forumala of Mamboni's contribution iterated recently above on this thread.
Also, sodium bicarb has come to the fore as a bladder protector.
Now, we have the heavy lifter, Clinoptilolite,
Remember our GS'er buddy, Antonio who cheerfully advised us all we can "P*ss it out," as this Chernobyl survivor so graphically shared with us on this thread in the last 9 months.

Thanks be to God
for this unfathomable, lovingly created eons in advance Clinoptilolite deposits of on this planet, which we can all avail ourselves of if we but try.

This CLINOPTILOLITE is a huge piece of the remediation and mitigation puzzle I've been searching for. Belief in the Almighty intersects with sound science, and old fashioned gumshoe detective
work. Let's all whup this thing back into submission for we the people's greater good and screw up the plans for the depopulating PTB in the process.


beefsteak

Serpo
7th December 2011, 04:10 PM
Japan was hit by a tsunami formed from TWO giant waves, reveal scientists



Passing radar satellites spotted two huge wave fronts merging far out to sea
Tsunami caused £184billion worth of damage

By Ted Thornhill (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Ted+Thornhill)

Last updated at 3:32 PM on 7th December 2011




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3AdFjklR50&feature=player_embedded (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2070576/Japan-hit-tsunami-formed-TWO-giant-waves-reveal-scientists.html#comments)









Until now they were just hypothetical, but scientists have revealed that the 133ft-high tsunami that hit Japan in March, triggered by a magnitude 9.0 earthquake, was formed from two giant waves.
According to Nasa and Ohio State University researchers, this ‘merging tsunami’ doubled in intensity over rugged ocean ridges greatly increasing its destructive power when it reached land.
The rare phenomenon was captured by Nasa and European radar satellites able to calculate water depths down to a few centimetres. The fact they were in the right place at the right time is described as a ‘one in 10million chance’ by a Nasa scientist.
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/06/article-2070576-0EFA709500000578-509_634x421.jpg Devastating: The tsunami flows into the city of Miyako from the Heigawa estuary in Iwate Prefecture on March 11


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/06/article-2070576-0EFE104200000578-90_634x423.jpg Ruined: A survivor walks through debris in Rikuzentakata, Iwate prefecture on March 18

The satellites detected two fronts that merged far out to sea to form an astonishingly powerful single wave that could travel long distances without losing power.


More...



Two black holes 10billion times bigger than the Sun discovered... but don't worry, they're 270million light years away (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2070264/Two-black-holes-10billion-times-bigger-Sun-discovered--dont-worry-theyre-270million-light-years-away.html)


Principal investigator Y Tony Song, from Nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, said: ‘It was a one in 10 million chance that we were able to observe this double wave with satellites.
‘Researchers have suspected for decades that such “merging tsunamis” might have been responsible for the 1960 Chilean tsunami that killed about 200 people in Japan and Hawaii, but nobody had definitively observed a merging tsunami until now.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/06/article-2070576-0EF8BDE500000578-233_634x422.jpg Chaos: The double-power tsunami left this boat on top of a two-storey building at Otsuchi town


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/07/article-2070576-0F1664A600000578-577_634x449.jpg Power: One of the Nasa satellite radar reconstructions showing how the tsunami fanned out across the Pacific carrying the energy of several merging tsunami 'jets'

‘It was like looking for a ghost. A Nasa-French Space Agency satellite altimeter happened to be in the right place at the right time to capture the double wave and verify its existence.’
The researchers think ridges and undersea mountain chains on the ocean floor deflected parts of the initial tsunami wave away from each other to form independent jets shooting off in different directions, each with its own wave front.
Professor C K Shum of Ohio State University added: ‘We can use what we learned to make better forecasts of tsunami danger in specific coastal regions anywhere in the world, depending on the location and the mechanism of an undersea quake.’
The disaster left 15,839 dead and 3,647 missing, according to the official toll. The high number of missing is because the dead are only counted when a body is identified.
The tsunami also touched off a nuclear crisis when it slammed into the Fukushima Dai-ichi power plant, forcing about 100,000 people to flee their homes. They still have no idea when they can return.
The tsunami also created an estimated 23 million tons of debris. The cost of the damage reached £184billion.










Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2070576/Japan-hit-tsunami-formed-TWO-giant-waves-reveal-scientists.html#ixzz1ftgW37yQ

osoab
7th December 2011, 05:36 PM
Let the People of Fukushima Go Home and Get Back to Work (http://spectator.org/archives/2011/12/06/let-the-people-of-fukushima-go)



By Theodore Rockwell (http://spectator.org/people/theodore-rockwell) on 12.6.11 @ 6:08AM
The science does not support the panic.

The front-page story (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/after-japan-nuclear-disaster-a-wasteland/2011/11/16/gIQAt7ZTcN_story.html) in the Washington Post on Sunday November 20 vividly portrayed the horrors of the evacuated zones around Fukushima with unforgettable imagery. A natural reaction is to call for more restrictive safety measures. But one point was not made clear: No one, not one single person, has received a life-altering injury from radiation since the disaster started unfolding last March. The atrocities described are caused by the application of international radiation standards that are set at levels far below where science shows adverse health effects occur, and by the fear of radiation that policy creates and nurtures. Once again, fear of radiation does more harm that the radiation itself.

The reality is that, while some people in the Fukushima housing area are wearing cumbersome rad-con suits, filtered gas-masks, gloves and booties, and putting the same on their children, other people are living carefree in places like Norway, Brazil, Iran, India where folks have lived normal lives for countless generations with radiation levels as much as a hundred times greater than the forbidden areas of the Fukushima homes.

The use of inappropriate radiation standards is not an abstract issue. People around Fukushima are being told they cannot return home for an indeterminate period -- perhaps years. And efforts to decontaminate their home sites to these standards may include stripping off all the rich top-soil and calling it RadWaste. People who were evacuated have been reduced to economic poverty, clinical depression, and even suicide.

There is good scientific evidence that, except for some hot spots, the radiation levels at these home-sites are not life-threatening. The current restrictions are based on a misguided desire to be "prudent." No matter how well intended, this "prudence" is cruelly destructive. Many radiation protectionists, such as Myron Pollycove, MD, former special assistant to the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Dr. Jerry Cuttler, former President of the Canadian Nuclear Society, and Abel Gonzales of Brazil, vice-chair of the International Commission on Radiological Protection, are beginning to feel unhappy about the harm their rules have caused and are joining in the cry for quick action as the Japanese head into winter.

In 2002, U.S. Regulatory Report NCRP-136 examined the question of establishing permissible radiation limits. After looking at the data, it concluded that most people who get a small dose of nuclear radiation are not harmed by it, and in fact are benefited. That's what the science said: Most people would benefit by receiving more radiation, within the hormetic range. "Benefit" means the incidence of cancer and genetic damage would be less than it would be without the additional radiation.

But curiously, the report's final conclusion was just the opposite. It recommended that our regulations should be based on the unsupported premise that any amount of radiation, no matter how small, should be considered harmful. It justified that recommendation as "conservative" or "prudent." Let's think about that. Why is it prudent do just the opposite of what the science indicates? Why is exaggerating a panicky situation considered prudent? I've never seen a good answer to that.

Last month, British radiation expert Wade Allison, author of Radiation and Reason, addressed the people on Japanese television. He proposed that radiation limits be set the same way other such limits are set -- not by seeing how little we can obtain, but what is the maximum we can tolerate, including a generous safety factor. The answer he gets is about 1,000 times the current "permissible limit."
Who gave the radiation police the right to give their particular concern priority over all other considerations? That question is not limited to Japan. A proposed European Community directive dated 17 Oct 2011 notes that the doses of radiation being regulated are small compared to doses people receive in the normal course of living. Instead of reaching the common-sense conclusion that they should therefore stop trying to regulate harmless doses of radiation, they decided they have to regulate Nature! They want us to wage an endless war against our naturally radioactive planet, when there is good evidence that without radiation, Life withers and dies.

Few if any people decide where to live, or how to live, on the basis of radiation level. There is no reason that they should start doing so now. Let the good people of Fukushima return home and get on with their lives!




Letter to the Editor
http://spectator.org/assets/db/13231844868188.jpg (http://spectator.org/people/theodore-rockwell) About the Author

Dr. Theodore Rockwell is a member of the National Academy of Engineering, editor of the 1956 handbook, The Reactor Shielding Design Manual, now available on the Department of Energy's website, and the first recipient of the American Nuclear Society's Lifetime Achievement Award, now called Rockwell Award.

Golden
7th December 2011, 05:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT7KTT0w9h8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT7KTT0w9h8
Takashi Hirose is a leading anti-nuke activist/author in Japan for the past three decades. He was invited by citizens of Tsuchiura on September 11, 2011, six months from the earthquake.
In this 3-hour-long lecture, he talks about the Fukushima Daiichi disaster: its cause, current condition, contamination and health effects.
0:00:00 Opening remarks by the organizers
Hirose's Lecture
0:06:10 Introduction
0:11:50 Truth about the nuclear accidents
1:43:10 Earthquakes and nuclear plants in Japan
1:59:40 Contamination and health effects
2:42:20 Alternative energy
2:54:40 Appeal and closing remarks by organizers
Updates since the lecture:
1. In early December 2011, Mr. Mitsuhiko Tanaka will be appointed as
one of the ten members of the parliamentary committee to investigate
on the Fukushima nuclear accidents.
2. Governor Nishikawa of Fukui Prefecture suggested Mr. Hashimoto, the
newly-elected mayor of City of Osaka, which is a major shareholder of
Kansai Electric Power Company, be more deliberate on Hashimoto's
nuclear phase-out policy.

EE_
7th December 2011, 06:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H7LjPIBfkU&feature=g-all

LastResort
8th December 2011, 04:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KZtXI6r4oE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KZtXI6r4oE
Uploaded by nuckelchenblogde on Dec 6, 2011

The plot thickens.

8 months too fuckin late if you ask me.

Golden
8th December 2011, 11:12 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDU1W6f6x1Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDU1W6f6x1Q
Uploaded by ichicax4 on Dec 8, 2011
Fukushima fire inconclusive, camera coverup being alleged, troop movements and cement trucks inbound. Pray for the workers there to stay safe.

Original Fuku fire video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1C2sdQKWpU

Lights, camera, and ? JNN/TBS Live cam:
http://news.tbs.co.jp/newsi_sp/youtube_live/

Bad news from radiation expert just back from Fuku:
http://enenews.com/radiation-expert-back-from-japan-it-is-clear-that-the-situ...

POTRBLOG dissertation on camera change to hide releases:
http://www.potrblog.com/

New colors of TEPCOcam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUYE0xbVEcw&feature=related

French blogger post/another compelling explanation of yellow light:
I've just read in the french blog where I discovered your vid that all this should be due to powerfull new projectors, installed for better working at the longer winter's nights.
If I understanded well, you're a little familiar with the domain of optics ? Here's a translation of the possible explanation of theses lights :

"According to the Tribune de Genève, based on "some Japanese sources," the lights are due to the installation of a new light.
According to Etienne Servant (Fukushima information), the spectrum visible laterally on a high brightness projector can vary between orange and green, which could explain the phenomenon observed in recent times with the 500 mm telephoto TBS / JNN : the movement of the projector and camera simultaneously could produce the effect visible. Given the distance, the mist, the simultaneous movement of the camera and projector, the light flashes can accentuate this phenomenon.
Indeed, the camera TBS / JNN is located about 2.5 km of the plant, and the image we perceive is necessarily distorted by the movement of air and movement of the lens due to wind. The absence of this webcam image can also be explained by the passage of mists that cloud the atmosphere.
If this hypothesis is not contradicted, that "event" demonstrates the ability of men to imagine what they fear. The current gaps of information provided by Tepco make external monitoring of the nuclear plant most dangerous in the world always requires an effort of interpretation. The lighting effects seen on the webcams since March 11 have also often leads to misinterpretation."
(http://fukushima.over-blog.fr/)

lapis
12th December 2011, 12:53 AM
This CLINOPTILOLITE is a huge piece of the remediation and mitigation puzzle I've been searching for. Belief in the Almighty intersects with sound science, and old fashioned gumshoe detective work. Let's all whup this thing back into submission for we the people's greater good and screw up the plans for the depopulating PTB in the process.

Finally some good news! Thanks for posting this information. I tried to thank your post, but because of Adblock or something Firefox won't let me.

Golden
12th December 2011, 11:10 AM
This is for those on the slow track that need a shock wave to kick start the grey matter. The rest chuckle and nod their heads.
NSFW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZdJautFQ2s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZdJautFQ2s

Dogman
12th December 2011, 11:15 AM
This is for those on the slow track that need a shock wave to kick start the grey matter. The rest chuckle and nod their heads.
NSFW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZdJautFQ2s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZdJautFQ2s

At least the dog was honest.

Golden
12th December 2011, 07:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9LfEB3e3nc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9LfEB3e3nc
Uploaded by MsMilkytheclown on Dec 12, 2011

The article about the Monkeys is TRUE. Wild monkeys to measure radiation levels in Fukushima
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8950513/Wild-monkeys-to-...
Thanks Again to cosmiccowboy92021 for that link and monkey vid :)

Serpo
13th December 2011, 12:51 AM
FDA Refuses To Monitor AK Fish -
Ocean Currents Don't Lie
By Jeff Rense
4-21-11 In the latest example of blatant Federal negligence (coverup), the valiant and ever vigilant FDA and EPA have determined they will not be testing ANY fish from the Gulf Of Alaska. This is another egregious (not that they give a rat's tail) abandonment of their obligation to watch over the public health and welfare. In this case, the Feds have chosen to protect the Alaskan fishing industry...the public's right to know and to be kept safe and informed be damned. The Feds are already protecting the Dairy and Beef and Big Ag industries, so why not the Alaska fisheries, too. A simple look at the maps below tells the tale of exactly why the Feds SHOULD be monitoring ALL Pacific caught seafood. First off, the Kuroshio Current (also named the Black Current) flowing northbound just off the East Coast of Japan meets up with the Oyashio Current, flowing southbound next to Japan's east coast. The two then run off together and head due EAST and become the North Pacific Current. The venerable North Pacific, as you will see below, jaunts straight across the Pacific and then SPLITS...with half going directly north into the Gulf of Alaska where it swirls and swirls in a sweeping counter-clockwise vortex. The southern portion of the split heads straight for the West Coast where it becomes the California Current as it flows south and down the West Coast into Baja California before eventually fading into the North Equatorial Current and a return trip back to Asia. http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/currentmap.jpg Kuroshio And Oyashio Currents Zone (KR/OY Mix And Become North Pacific Current) Pronounced (koorosheo) Also called Japan Current or BLACK CURRENT. The Kuroshio Current (in red arrow) runs off the coast of Japan. It is a strong and very large warm surface oceanic current traveling 40 to 121 km/day at 1.6 to 4.8 km/h. At about lat. 35°N it divides to form an eastern branch flowing nearly to the Hawaiian Islands and a northern branch that skirts the coast of Asia and merges with the waters of the cold Oyashio Current to form the North Pacific Current. Dense fogs develop along the boundary between the Japan and Oyashio currents. Air moving over the warm Japan Current becomes more temperate and acts to moderate the climate of Taiwan and Japan. The Oyashio Current (in green arrow) is a cold subarctic current that flows south and circulates counterclockwise along the western North Pacific Ocean. The two currents collide near eastern shores of Japan forming the North Pacific Current. The North Pacific Current The North Pacific Current (sometimes referred to as the North Pacific Drift) is a slow warm water current that flows west-to-east between 40 and 50 degrees north in the Pacific Ocean. The current forms the southern part of the North Pacific Subpolar Gyre. The North Pacific Current is formed by the collision of theKuroshio Current, running northward off the coast of Japan, and the Oyashio Current, which is a cold subarctic current that flows south and circulates counterclockwise along the western North Pacific Ocean. The North Pacific Current forms the northern part of the North Pacific Subtropical Gyre. In the eastern North Pacific, it splits into the southward California Current and the northward Alaska Current. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Pacific_Current (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Pacific_Current) http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/Subtropical_C.gif Source: National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
Here is the full FDA-EPA story about why there is 'no reason' to monitor Alaska and North Pacific fish for radiation exposure... 'No Nuclear Risk To North Pacific Fish' Officials Say http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/17/no-nuclear-risk-to-north-pacific-fish-officials-say/ (http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/17/no-nuclear-risk-to-north-pacific-fish-officials-say/)

http://www.rense.com/general93/curr.htm

Serpo
13th December 2011, 02:05 AM
Dead cleanup worker removed sludge from drains in contaminated area just hours before death — “Exceptional” unease by gov’t spokesman





NHK Japanese translated by EX-SKF, Dec. 12, 2011:
60-year-old man was found collapsed in a car and confirmed dead
Doing the decontamination work in Date City in Fukushima
Near the district assembly hall in the morning
Scooped the sludge in the side drains
Eating lunch in the company car
Found collapsed in a car in Shimo-Oguni District of Date City at around 1pm on December 12
Cabinet Office says “The cause of death has nothing to do with the decontamination work”, without revealing the details
http://enenews.com/dead-cleanup-worker-removed-sludge-drains-contaminated-area-hours-before-death-exceptional-unease-govt-spokesman

Serpo
13th December 2011, 02:07 AM
Bloomberg exposes IAEA: Safety division is a “marketing channel” for nuclear technology, reveals secret US docs





UN Atomic Agency Money Goes to Terror Fight, Not Nuclear Safety, Bloomberg, Dec. 10, 2011 (Emphasis Added):

Introduction
The [International Atomic Energy Agency] classifies safety as one of its top three priorities, yet is spending 8.9 percent [of budget...] on making plants secure from accidents
The IAEA was founded in 1957 as the global “Atoms for Peace” organization to promote “safe, secure and peaceful” nuclear technology
2,300 work at the IAEA’s secretariat at its headquarters
Its mission statement encapsulates the same conflict as Japan’s failed nuclear-safety regime: playing the role of both promoter and regulator of atomic power, according to scientists, diplomats and analysts interviewed by Bloomberg News.

Johannis Noeggerath, president of Switzerland’s Society of Nuclear Professionals and safety director for the country’s Leibstadt reactor
[IAEA] “accepted for years the overlap between regulation and industry in Japan”
“They have a safety culture problem”

Wikileaks

The agency’s safety division garnered little respect in U.S. diplomatic cables that described the department as a marketing channel for countries seeking to sell atomic technology

IAEA vs. Convention on Nuclear Safety

The IAEA’s own mission to promote atomic power may also contradict the Convention on Nuclear Safety.

“Each contracting party shall take the appropriate steps to ensure an effective separation between the functions of the regulatory body and those of any other body or organization concerned with the promotion or utilization of nuclear energy,” says article 8.2 of the convention.

Robert Kelley, a former IAEA director who led inspections in Iraq
“IAEA inspectors and field workers are largely on their own when it comes to safely carrying out their jobs”
“They receive little guidance or support and they are very dependent on the facilities they are inspecting to protect their health”

Trevor Findlay, former Australian diplomat
“The IAEA did not seize the opportunity of this dreadful event to advance the agency’s role in nuclear safety”
IAEA Director General Yukiya Amano “has been tough on Iran and Syria, but not when it comes to nuclear safety”
The agency’s failure on Fukushima is due to its timid leadership and an over-reliance on Japanese data

Akio Matsumura, a former diplomat and chairman of the World Business Academy
The absence of independent information about the [Fukushima] meltdown compounds those fears, he said
“The IAEA has disseminated reports on updates at Fukushima, but the source of the information is the Japanese government”
“If the Japanese government chooses to remain opaque in its dealings, then the IAEA reports will be useless”

http://enenews.com/bloomberg-exposes-conflicted-iaea-safety-division-is-a-marketing-channel-for-nuclear-technology-reveals-secret-us-docs

PatColo
13th December 2011, 06:08 AM
Mike adds some of his spin,

Confirmed: Fukushima disaster contaminated ocean with 50 million times normal radiation, leaks still ongoing (http://www.naturalnews.com/034395_Fukushima_cesium_radiation.html)

http://www.naturalnews.com/images/authors/MikeAdams.jpgTuesday, December 13, 2011
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com

beefsteak
13th December 2011, 08:21 AM
PatColo......
any thoughts on the non-appearance of Yoichi for the last 3 Mondays or so? He must be working on something really sensitive to have gone deep cover I'm thinking. What think you?

Serpo,
welcome back, buddy. All, not just me, have missed your postings here.

I found another recent blog source on another GS thread last night... ...something called Fukishima Diary. Have no clue who the party is who is blogging from their perspective. Just know it appears to be a native Japanese speaker, perhaps bilingual, as the translations syntax is very good.


beefsteak

beefsteak
13th December 2011, 08:29 AM
Let the People of Fukushima Go Home and Get Back to Work

That writer looks particularly silly after the news of the "gutter cleaner dying in his car eating lunch" story broke....

If he's so confident, why doesn't he exchange his cushy academic "chair" and go clean gutters for a few hours...as a public service project y'know.

There has to be SOME punishment for journalistic malfeasance/malpractice me thinks....


beefsteak

Golden
13th December 2011, 11:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wete5wK7b_c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wete5wK7b_c
Uploaded by ichicax4 on Dec 13, 2011

High radiation fallout was detected across a large portion of the US in the past 2 days. Multiple jet stream systems, projected rainfall, and water vapor bands suggest extreme caution for outdoor activities over the next few days in entire US with possible exception of Florida and Puerto Rico.
ANYTHING OVER 100 should be considered high. 300 cpm is radioactive hazmet suit level per EPA!!!
List of cities:
Bismarck, ND
Pierre, SD
Amarillo, TX -- 810 cpms!
Ft. Worth, TX
San Angelo, TX
SLC, UT
Olympia, WA
Spokane, WA
Albuquerque, NM
Ft. Smith, AK
Phoenix, AZ -- 700 cpms!
Tucson, AZ
Yuma, AZ
Bakersfield, CA -- 500 cpms!!
Idaho Falls, ID
Louisville, KY
St. Paul, MN

EPA guidelines for hazmat protection:
http://www.rrt5.org/acp/docs/App6_AirMonitoringGuidelines.pdf

EPA guidelines for emergency response:
http://www.ert.org/mainContent.asp?section=Health&subsection=Task&mem...

EPA radiation monitoring for US, check your city here:
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/12/realtime-epa-radnet-japan-nuclear...

Water vapor weather loop from University of Washington:
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/loops/wxloop.cgi?wv_east+%2F24h%2F

Jet stream animation page:
http://virga.sfsu.edu/scripts/namjetstream_model.html

NOAA 5 day precip map/forecast:
http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/d13_fill.gif