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Olmstein
12th May 2011, 05:39 AM
Typhoon headed for Fukushima this weekend.

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/wp201103.html

Horn
12th May 2011, 06:20 AM
Typhoon headed for Fukushima this weekend.

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/wp201103.html


That really sucks.

Antonio
12th May 2011, 11:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/user/dutchsinse#p/u/0/haMePBnkJhY

Please watch this everyone, this is bad.

lapis
12th May 2011, 12:01 PM
NILU ends public forecasts as map shows large radiation clouds now over US, Canada (VIDEOS) (http://enenews.com/nilu-ends-public-forecasts-map-show-large-radiation-clouds-canada-videos)

You've got to be kidding me! Take a look at the last videos that they posted!

Xenon-133
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7692U7zoHx8&feature=player_embedded

Iodine-131
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bmeLapf-Oo&feature=player_embedded

Oh, but don't worry! As a nuclear industry shill on another forum "reassured" me, xenon-133 is an inert gas that doesn't enter the body. (Also, this gem: "It is also very easy to expel cesium from the body quicker by taking Prussian blue.")

:lol

According to the comments to this Enenews.com thread, some other nuclear monitoring agencies are also suspending their activities.

And it gets better: out of curiosity I just went to the Idealist site (http://www.idealist.ws/), which is a radiation watchdog site, and it says:

"As of May 7, 2011, Idealist has been suspended indefinitely by decision of its founder."

WTF! WHY NOW? Are people being gagged?!

I guess this is it! We're on our own. I feel like the only people who are concerned are my two other conspiracy-minded friends IRL, some random people on the 'net and the regular posters on this thread at GSUS. :boohoo

lapis
12th May 2011, 12:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/user/dutchsinse#p/u/0/haMePBnkJhY

Please watch this everyone, this is bad.


I am halfway through it, and I feel like I'm going to either cry hysterically or :puke

Antonio
12th May 2011, 12:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/user/dutchsinse#p/u/0/haMePBnkJhY

Please watch this everyone, this is bad.


I am halfway through it, and I feel like I'm going to either cry hysterically or :puke


The idea of naming the site Zardoz is beyond sick, they are laughing in our faces.

sirgonzo420
12th May 2011, 12:25 PM
Is it time for this yet?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHsx1cvACkY

Serpo
12th May 2011, 12:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbGVIdA3dx0



Pick a head line...they are all bad and not improving...Im with you Lapis :puke
http://enenews.com/

“Reactor Rupture”: TEPCO says “there must be a large leak” in No. 1 reactor — Reveals No. 2 and 3 may have similar ruptures
May 12th, 2011 at 01:16 PM

Reactor Rupture Could Slow Japan Plant Stabilization, National Journal’s Global Security Newswire, May 12, 2011 …Read More
16 comments
NILU ends public forecasts as map shows large radiation clouds now over US, Canada (VIDEOS)
May 12th, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Fukushima, Norwegian Institute for Air Research (NILU), May 11, 2011 …Read More
38 comments
TEPCO: Bigger breach in No. 1 reactor core than expected — “Serious setback” to stabilize Fukushima
May 12th, 2011 at 12:26 PM

More-than-expected damage found at Japan reactor, AP, May 12, 2011 at …Read More
8 comments
“Nuclear meltdown at Fukushima” — TEPCO worried fuel burned a hole through bottom of containment vessel
May 12th, 2011 at 10:10 AM

Telegraph, May 12, 2011 …Read More
39 comments
Nuclear fuel at Reactor No. 1 melted after “full exposure”
May 12th, 2011 at 09:50 AM

Kyodo, May 12, 2011 …Read More
10 comments
Water level now below BOTTOM of fuel rods in No. 1 — Suggests nuclear fuel is in a molten mass at bottom of reactor (VIDEO)
May 12th, 2011 at 05:55 AM

Water leaking from No.1 reactor, NHK, May 12, 2011 …Read More
21 comments
Hardly any water in Reactor No. 1 after flooding effort — “Containment vessel is likely to be broken and leaking”
May 12th, 2011 at 12:44 AM

Unit 1, you need substantial revision of the cooling system, MBS Mainichi News, May 12, 2011 …Read More
35 comments
SOUTH of Tokyo: Cesium in tea leaves above maximum limit — “Radioactive contamination problems are far from over”
May 11th, 2011 at 08:34 PM

Radiation Detected in Tea Leaves in Japan, Wall Street Journal, May 11, 2011 …Read More
42 comments
Dawn at Fukushima: Enhanced image exposes smoke/steam billowing from reactor buildings No. 2, 3, 4 (PHOTOS)
May 11th, 2011 at 04:42 PM

morningEnhanced

May 11, 2011 at 4:30 pm EDT …Read More
47 comments
Smoke/steam pouring out of Reactor Units No. 2, 3, 4 (PHOTOS & VIDEOS)
May 11th, 2011 at 02:30 PM

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TBS News Live Feed …Read More
38 comments
“Reactor 3 at the damaged Fukushima nuclear power station is leaking” — TEPCO says Cesium at 620,000 times above limit
May 11th, 2011 at 02:23 PM

DAMAGED JAPANESE POWER STATION HAS NEW RADIOACTIVE LEAK, Agenzia Giornalistica Italia, …Read More
11 comments
Watchdog: Inexplicable that EPA shut down Fukushima radiation monitoring after finding high levels of radiation in drinking water
May 11th, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Watchdog criticizes feds for pulling back on radiation monitoring, California Watch, …Read More
92 comments
“Unusual amount of smoke” billowing from Reactors No. 3 and 4 “nothing to be concerned about” says TEPCO, Japan gov’t
May 11th, 2011 at 10:56 AM

Japan: New Smoke At Nuclear Plant, CBS, May 8, 2011 …Read More
23 comments
TEPCO discusses installing structure to support No. 4 spent fuel pool from underneath
May 11th, 2011 at 10:25 AM

Gov’t, TEPCO in uphill battle to contain Fukushima reactors, set to review roadmap, Mainichi Daily News, May 11, 2011 …Read More
24 comments
MIT: Nuclear chain reactions must have been burning at damaged reactors long after disaster unfolded
May 11th, 2011 at 09:36 AM

Chain Reactions Reignited At Fukushima After Tsunami, Says New Study, MIT’s Technology Review, May 9, 2011 …Read More
11 comments
Exceptional Incident? Dutch authorities seize five containers after hazardous radiation exceeded permissible levels
May 10th, 2011 at 08:50 PM

Containers from Japan seized in Netherlands due to radioactivity, Kyodo, May 10, 2011 …Read More
70 comments
“Very, Very Serious”: Unit No. 4 leaning, in danger of falling — Gov’t confirms stabilization efforts underway (PHOTO & VIDEO)
May 10th, 2011 at 03:21 PM

lean1

Nuclear collapse looms? Fukushima No. 4 reactor ‘leaning’, RT, May 10, …Read More
127 comments
TEPCO: Reactor No. 3 temperature rising — Pumping water to cool reactor may be ‘insufficient’ (VIDEO)
May 10th, 2011 at 12:11 PM

TEPCO starts adjusting gauges at Unit 1, NHK, May 10, 2011:

…Read More
23 comments
Highest Yet: Iodine-131 in No. 3 spent fuel pool at over 1,000,000 times normal — “Generated during nuclear fission” (VIDEO)
May 10th, 2011 at 11:39 AM

Radiation high at No.3 reactor pool, NHK, May 10, 2011:

TEPCO admits it may need to change plans and ‘slow down’ repairs because of extremely high radiation in Reactor No. 1 (VIDEO)
May 10th, 2011 at 10:59 AM

High radiation may slow down TEPCO’s repairs, NHK, May 10, 2011:

…Read More
43 comments

lapis
12th May 2011, 01:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbGVIdA3dx0

That looks interesting! I guess now we can see where they got the inspiration for the crazy mankini bathing suit in Borat. ;)

http://www.vanityfair.com/images/culture/2006/12/cuar01_borat0612.jpg

http://waxturds.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/zardoz.jpg

Sean Connery still looks pretty hot despite those wild boots, red diaper and ponytail. :o

Horn
12th May 2011, 01:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haMePBnkJhY&feature=channel_video_title

keehah
12th May 2011, 02:13 PM
At the end of your linked video Horn, thats my area he singles out at for immediate concern. :(

Western USA gets shat upon.

http://www.revelation2seven.org/UsedImages/pg152.gif

IMO the coverup of the radiation in North America being ramped up right now will be selectively unveiled some time in the next year as from a yet to happen nuclear false flag attack in North America.

Government radiation stations in Canada show radioisotope concentration coming in now 1/5 to 1/10 what it was the first few weeks after the initial explosions. They only report weekly now so daily spikes cannot be seen.

(scroll up for March and April data)
Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Station Radioisotope Concentrations
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hc-ps/ed-ud/respond/nuclea/data-donnees-eng.php#rc_may2011

Antonio
12th May 2011, 06:06 PM
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/13_03.html

meltdown at unit1.

Finita la comedia.

beefsteak
12th May 2011, 06:43 PM
Thanks, Antonio.

Just in case the summary disappears due to a P'O'ed Jap govt censor, here it is for the record.



No.1 reactor is in a "meltdown" state

Tokyo Electric Power Company says the No.1 reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant is believed to be in a state of "meltdown".

The utility company said on Thursday that most of the fuel rods are likely to have melted and fallen to the bottom of the reactor. Earlier in the day, it found that the coolant water in the reactor is at a level which would completely expose nuclear fuel rods if they were in their normal position.

The company believes the melted fuel has cooled down, judging from the reactor's surface temperature.

But it suspects the meltdown created a hole or holes in the bottom of the reactor causing water to leak into the containment vessel.

It also suspects the water is leaking into the reactor building.

The company is planning to fully fill the containment vessel with water by increasing the amount injected.

The company says, however, it must review the plan in light of the latest finding.

Friday, May 13, 2011 05:21 +0900 (JST)

=============

Anybody else out there shaking their head in disbelief at the idiocy of uttering they are going to keep water in the "containment" vessel.

Which crack is it exactly they are planning to patch in a building too risky to enter? I think I'll go back and bring forward Eng. Arnie G's posted vimeo on the "pressures" inside the reactors...based upon information provided him by his peers who appreciate what he's trying to do on those vimeos.

beefsteak

Book
12th May 2011, 08:00 PM
Anybody else out there shaking their head in disbelief at the idiocy...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPBzj90Su8A

|--0--| here 'ya go Beefsteak

Horn
12th May 2011, 08:33 PM
All the evidence shows that we are being engulfed by radioactive “weather” every day (for eight weeks and counting). Sadly, people have trouble considering that the radiation entering their body now will not manifest itself for at least some years (signs of radiation poisoning in the forms of terrible cancers will show up anywhere from two years to half a century or more from now). However, the fact that it will not manifest for years makes it no less real a health risk. Consider these words carefully and decide for yourself if it is worth the great risk of doing nothing, even though we are being exposed to radioactive poisons every hour of every day.

Many forecast maps at the link,

http://globalcooperative.wordpress.com/2011/05/07/radioactive-weather-update/

beefsteak
12th May 2011, 08:37 PM
Thanks for the posted excerpt, Horn. Pretty pithy and pragmatic there.

beefsteak
12th May 2011, 08:39 PM
Here's Eng. Arnie G's newest one:


http://vimeo.com/23393101

That's what happens when one takes a few days off...they get behind on their Gunderson updates... :oo-->

His 3 bullet points:

* Airborne releases from Fukushima

* More on the explosion at Reactor #3
(Showed a still image of SI-reactor site in Idaho nuclear accident at Prompt Moderate Criticality (neutron releasing, lifting up type conflagration DETONATION....more info in 5/13's vimeo below about detonations in Fukushima 3.) which impaled an employee onto the interior roof of the reactor, causing his immediate death, as well as another worker in the same reactor working several feet below him who also died from the blast.)

* Liquid (as in contaminated groundwater moving north) releases from Fukushima

beefsteak

Horn
12th May 2011, 08:48 PM
Warnings

Xenon Xe 133 Gas delivery systems, i.e., respirators or spirometers, and associated tubing assemblies must be leakproof to avoid loss of radioactivity into the laboratory environs not specifically protected by exhaust systems.

Xenon Xe 133 Gas adheres to some plastics and rubber and should not be allowed to stand in tubing or respirator containers. Loss of radioactivity due to such adherence may render the study nondiagnostic.
Precautions
General

Xenon Xe 133 Gas as well as other radioactive drugs, must be handled with care and appropriate safety measures should be used to minimize radiation exposure to clinical personnel. Also, care should be taken to minimize radiation exposure to the patients consistent with proper patient management.

Exhaled Xenon Xe 133 Gas should be controlled in a manner that is in compliance with the appropriate regulations of the government agency authorized to license the use of radionuclides.

Radiopharmaceuticals should be used only by physicians who are qualified by training and experience in the safe use and handling of radionuclides and whose experience and training have been approved by the appropriate government agency authorized to license the use of radionuclides.
Carcinogenesis, Mutagenesis, Impairment of Fertility

No long-term animal studies have been performed to evaluate carcinogenic potential, mutagenic potential or whether this drug affects fertility in males or females.

http://www.drugs.com/pro/xenon-xe-133-gas.html

lapis
12th May 2011, 09:49 PM
Warnings

Xenon Xe 133 Gas delivery systems, i.e., respirators or spirometers, and associated tubing assemblies must be leakproof to avoid loss of radioactivity into the laboratory environs not specifically protected by exhaust systems.


Inert, huh? ::)

beefsteak
12th May 2011, 10:31 PM
Catching up on some other fields of personal interest...a best friend of our daughter during the HighSchool / Early College years, has up and had a stroke out of the blue...tender age of 32. Single mother of 2, hasn't been able to work since, and all the rest of the flow-on challenges from just both those 3 personal glimpses into her young life...

Anyhow...currently listening to Dr. Russell Blaylock, MD, retired neurosurgeon now nutrition brain researcher and expert...has an exceptional, plain English video on EXCITOTOXINS on Google. His first excitotoxin target is MSG (MonoSodiumGlutamate)

He just got through briefly making mention of "irradiation opening the blood/brain barrier" and that not being a good thing. This powerpoint presentation (1hr/6minutes) by Dr. B (yes, same one interviewed by Rense and mentioned earlier on this thread wrt Dr. B's statements as to the radioactive cesium replacing potassium in our bodies and our *unprotected grown* organic vegetables, and ditto strontium replacing calcium in both) I hope HE will have more to say about this, even tho' this was taped PRIOR TO 3/11....

Appears to be good solid info presented by Dr. B himself, in the flesh. Might want to take a listen. It's can be viewed at:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2384105525501310962#

I know I'm going to keep an eye out for more solid info from Dr. B on the radiation (LLR) originating unstopped, from Fukushima. If anyone is going to be up on mitigations and remediations nutritionally, I would expect it to be Dr. B.

beefsteak

beefsteak
13th May 2011, 08:16 AM
Fresh Eng. Arnie G...just out:


http://vimeo.com/23680177 (http://vimeo.com/23680177)

beefsteak

undgrd
13th May 2011, 09:16 AM
Fresh Eng. Arnie G...just out:


http://vimeo.com/23680177 (http://vimeo.com/23680177)

beefsteak


Is it me or was he about to say CIA 30 seconds into that video?

gunDriller
13th May 2011, 01:39 PM
Is it me or was he about to say CIA 30 seconds into that video?


i think so.

made me wonder about the possible correlation with silver prices.

march april may for Ag -

http://www.kitco.com/LFgif//agmar11.gif

http://www.kitco.com/LFgif//agapr11.gif

http://www.kitco.com/LFgif//agmay11.gif


silver was at $34 on the 11 of March. then went UP UP UP till a week ago.

i wonder how further admissions about the out-of-control-ness of Fukushima, what effect that might have.

beefsteak
13th May 2011, 02:37 PM
Hi, Gunny,
Not too sure how to tie together the hiccup in pricing of the primary currency metal (GOLD) and the other precious metals (Silver in particular) with the Fukushima triggering and outlier events. I'm sure there's linkage there somewhere, but how to quantify it beyond a "hmmmmm" and wondering is about the best I can do.

Since this is not being portrayed as any kind of significant health threat, I suspect it is also being viewed as de minimis financial import. Seems silly to disregard financial impact of an industry which wouldn't even exist in the scope it does currently without "govt guarantees" since it is "too large to insure." And in a major island nation no less. I just shake my head.

The populace's ability to become inured to obvious import never ceases to amaze me.

beefsteak

sirgonzo420
13th May 2011, 02:43 PM
Yeah, but WE GOT BIN LADEN!!!1!!!1!!!










:oo-->

beefsteak
13th May 2011, 03:23 PM
Here's Eng. Arnie G's newest one:


http://vimeo.com/23393101

That's what happens when one takes a few days off...they get behind on their Gunderson updates... :oo-->

: BULLET PT #2 More on the explosion at Reactor #3
(Gunderson showed a still, B&W image of SI-reactor site in Idaho nuclear accident at Prompt Moderate Criticality which impaled an employee onto the interior roof of the reactor, causing his immediate death, as well as another worker in the same reactor working several feet below him who also died from the blast.)

This is the second time in recent days something is mentioned of Idaho and nuclear "involvement" in conversational flow within my hearing. So I'm now paying attention even tho' I do not live out there.

Someone then sent me the following information, which I confirmed on the web at a Virginia blog website, so I believe it is legit. (Not that I doubted the person who sent it to me in good faith. Just seems prudent to check stuff out that arrives unsolicited, y'know?)

Apparently written April 12, 2011 (1 month post F.), and blogged April 27, this is relatively fresh legislative action post Fukushima to draw attention to. Surprised my Sister in ID didn't bring this to my attention. But then, I'm not surprised she didn't mention it come to think of it. It's an ostrich thing she does well.... :(

Granted:
* this is about Above Ground Nuke Testing in '50s-'60s referenced above by moi...
* this is the first I've heard about what "classes/occupations" were initially considered...
* this is the first time I've ever heard the term "downwinders" in this context...
* this is the first article I've seen that has attached any kind of monetary amount to "downwinders" compensation...
* this downwinders "thing" has been initiated post Fukushima...and I wonder why?
Timing's great, yes? Introducing modification legislation of a 1990s already passed act, and doing so while the Reactor is hot, so to speak?

Trying to separate out the current "claimants" before the inevitable "downwinders'" claimants --50-60 years post Fukushima-- outstretch their hands? Who knows???

Here's the article, dateline Washington DC:

Bill Would Expand Relief for Americans Sickened by Radiation Exposure


Bipartisan Group Introduces RECA Amendments Act of 2011

Contact: Susan Wheeler
Tuesday, April 12, 2011

Washington, D.C. -- Idaho Senators Mike Crapo and Jim Risch have joined Senator Tom Udall (D-NM) and a bipartisan group of senators to introduce the Radiation Exposure Compensation Act (RECA) Amendments of 2011. The Act would provide expanded restitution for Americans sickened from working in uranium mines or living downwind of atomic weapons tests.

Other co-sponsors of the bill include Senators Jeff Bingaman (D-NM), Mark Udall (D-CO) and Michael Bennet (D-CO). Companion legislation was concurrently introduced in the House by Rep. Ben Ray Luján (D-NM-3).

Among other things, the RECA Amendments of 2011 would build upon previous RECA legislation by further widening qualifications for compensation for radiation exposure; qualifying post 1971 uranium workers for compensation;
equalizing compensation for all claimants to $150,000;
expanding the downwind exposure area to include seven states; and
funding an epidemiological study of the health impacts on families of uranium workers and residents of uranium development communities.

“I recognize the burden placed upon cancer patients and their families to pay for the expensive regimen of treatments this disease requires. Passage of this legislation is the first step in helping Idahoans get the care they need,” said Crapo.

“For decades now, Idahoans have been pleading their case to the federal government for help in dealing with the health effects they suffered as a result of nuclear testing. This bill answers those pleas by providing the same assistance those in neighboring states already receive,” said Risch.

“As the U.S. government built up its Cold War nuclear arsenal during the mid-20thcentury, many Americans paid the price with their health – and all the while, the government was slow to implement federal protections,” Tom Udall said. “With this legislation, we honor a generation of hardworking Americans who sacrificed their lives and health by working or living near the uranium mines. We are taking the next step to close this sad chapter in our history by expanding RECA to include all who are justified in receiving radiation exposure compensation.”;

“This legislation represents a continued commitment to compensating Americans whose health was negatively affected by the Cold War. I am particularly glad that the bill includes – for the first time – the downwinders from the Trinity (NM) site who have never been compensated,” said Bingaman, who worked on the original RECA law, as well as the 2000 law that made several improvements to the program.

"The patriots who worked on nuclear sites and in uranium mines during the Cold War were crucial to maintaining our national security," Mark Udall said. "It's our responsibility now to make sure we help properly take care of those who are dealing with illnesses they contracted because of radiation exposure. This bill will expand RECA so that a wider pool of workers affected and communities downwind will be able to access the compensation they deserve."

"During the Cold War, thousands of Coloradans served our country by working to build the nation's nuclear arsenal and now we know that through no fault of their own, they were not properly protected from harmful radiation exposure," Bennet said. “I will continue to work with this bipartisan group of like minded Senators who are fighting to properly compensate those workers, their families and others who have suffered over many years. Addressing this wrong is the only right and just thing to do."

“Communities throughout New Mexico are still reeling from the legacy of uranium mining, as it continues to impact families to this day. It is critical that we continue to fight for those who have been affected so they can be compensated for the suffering they have endured. This legislation recognizes the sacrifices of the workers and miners whose efforts contributed to our victory during the Cold War, and the downwinders who have been forgotten for too long. These patriotic Americans have waited long enough for the compensation they deserve,” said Luján.

Specifically, the Radiation Exposure Compensation Act Amendments of 2011 would:
*Extend compensation to employees of mines and mills employed after Dec. 31, 1971. These are individuals who began working in uranium mines and mills after the U.S. stopped purchasing uranium, but failed to implement and enforce adequate uranium mining safety standards. Many of these workers have the same illnesses as pre-1971 workers who currently qualify for RECA compensation.

*Add core drillers to the list of compensable employees, which currently only includes miners, millers and ore transporters.

*Add renal cancer, or any other chronic renal disease, to the list of compensable diseases for employees of mines and mills. Currently, millers and transporters are covered for kidney disease, but miners are not.

*Allow claimants to combine work histories to meet the requirement of the legislation.
For example,
individuals who worked half a year in a mill and half a year in a mine would be eligible for compensation. (Currently, the Department of Justice makes some exceptions for this, but the policy is not codified in law.)

*Make all claimants available for an equal amount of compensation, specifically $150,000, regardless of whether they are millers, miners, ore transporters, onsite employees, or downwinders.

*Make all claimants eligible for medical benefits. Currently, only miners, millers and ore transporters can claim medical benefits through the medical expense compensation program.

*Recognize radiation exposure from the Trinity Test Site in New Mexico, as well as tests in the Pacific Ocean.

*Expand the downwind areas to include all of
Arizona,
Nevada,
New Mexico,
Colorado, Idaho, Montana, and
Utah for the Nevada Test Site;
New Mexico for the Trinity Test Site; and
Guam for the Pacific tests.

*Allow the use of affidavits to substantiate employment history, presence in affected area, and work at a test site. Current legislation only allows miners to use affidavits.

*Return all attorney fees to a cap of 10 percent of the amount of the RECA claim, as was mandated in the original 1990 RECA legislation.

*Authorize $3 million for five years for epidemiological research on the impacts of uranium developmention communities and families of uranium workers. The funds would be allocated to the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences to award grants to universities and non-profits to carry out the research.

*Allow in the miners, millers, core drillers, and ore transporters to file a Special Exposure Cohort petition within the Energy Employees Occupational Illness Compensation Program Act (EEOICPA). Other DOE workers are currently allowed to file such petitions for compensation when claims are denied and there is not enough information for NIOSH to do dose reconstruction to determine the impacts of exposure.

For visual refreshment of "downwinder locations"

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/beefsteak_GIM/NevAboveGroundNukeTestingNV1950-60.jpg

Interesting is it not that I count 18 downwinder states, but only 7 "get to queue up?

Know anybody who should get into get into the $150K handout line? ? ? ?

Horn
13th May 2011, 03:53 PM
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/index.gif

gunDriller
13th May 2011, 06:48 PM
Hi, Gunny,
Not too sure how to tie together the hiccup in pricing of the primary currency metal (GOLD) and the other precious metals (Silver in particular) with the Fukushima triggering and outlier events. I'm sure there's linkage there somewhere, but how to quantify it beyond a "hmmmmm" and wondering is about the best I can do.

Since this is not being portrayed as any kind of significant health threat, I suspect it is also being viewed as de minimis financial import. Seems silly to disregard financial impact of an industry which wouldn't even exist in the scope it does currently without "govt guarantees" since it is "too large to insure." And in a major island nation no less. I just shake my head.

The populace's ability to become inured to obvious import never ceases to amaze me.

beefsteak


March 11, that was when the rubber band snapped.

i don't mean the rubber band in my head. that snapped a long time ago ;D

"A major economic power,[2] Japan has the world's third-largest economy by nominal GDP[11] and by purchasing power parity. It is also the world's fourth largest exporter and fourth largest importer. Although Japan has officially renounced its right to declare war, it maintains an extensive modern military force in self-defense and peacekeeping roles. After Singapore, Japan has the lowest homicide (including attempted homicide) rate in the world.[12] According to both UN and WHO estimates, Japan has the longest life expectancy of any country in the world. According to the UN, it has the third lowest infant mortality rate.[13][14]"

i would estimate that the world's 3rd largest economy is going to be half to 2/3 its current size when the full effects of Fukushima are felt.

and that life expectancy statistic will change.

the world economy cannot tolerate losing 1/3 or 1/2 of Japan. they can keep up with the happy face news for as long as they want, but happy face news doesn't stop a cancer from spreading. happy face news doesn't stop a rotting apple from rotting.

happy face news increases the rate at which the apple rots, because they can't tell the truth about the rotted parts, whether the rotted part is debt or a countryside that's been wiped out with radiation.

in Japan right now, they're sending children to school, about 50 miles from Fukushima, where they wear masks and long sleeve shirts, to theoretically protect them from the radiation. meanwhile workers in the schoolyard are digging up the soil, to be taken i know not wear.

i think it will boil over and we'll see the resulting Panic within 6 months.


as far as Fukushima & silver, it's just interesting to see how it went parabolic shortly after Fukushima. (dollar negative, risk on ?)

then how the price dropped after Tarzan/ Obama beat his chest and caught Osama. (dollar positive, risk off ?)


the Panic of 2011/ 2012 will be interesting. it will be risk on, but the crashes in the various markets will force people to sell assets including gold & silver, and the market manipulators may use that time to raise margin requirements again.

China will be like, "oh, you're letting me buy gold for $1400 or $1300 an ounce ? DEAL !!!"


by "Risk On", i mean, that's when markets are worried & panicky, and gold @ $1550 seems like a good deal.

so, during The Panic of 2011, gold may be available for those lower prices, but gold @ $1550 will still be a good deal. a paradox.

expecting some really fascinating volatility.

osoab
13th May 2011, 07:04 PM
Thanks to all on this thread.

beefsteak, very nice job.

Now for the latest attempt at Fukushima.

Tents!

Japan's Latest Proposal To Contain Fukushima's Radioactive Fallout - A (Circus) Tent (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/japans-latest-proposal-contain-fukushimas-radioactive-fallout-circus-tent)


You just can't make this up: proving that Japan can outdo even the Russians when it comes to nuclear crisis "response", Dow Jones reports that the latest scheme to come out of TEPCO is to cover Fukushima with a giant tent. It is unclear if it will have a circus coloration yet. From DJ: "Giant polyester covers will soon be placed around the damaged reactor buildings at Japan's Fukushima nuclear complex to help contain the release of radioactive substances into the atmosphere, the plant operator said Friday. Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) will install the first cover at the No. 1 reactor, the focus of recent stabilization efforts, starting next month." This probably means that Japan looked long and hard at the concrete shell option and realized it was impossible, which is true. The problem is that by now the melted cores are not in the complex, but deep beneath it and the radioactivity is actively seeping directly into the soil. And since the polyester tent idea is doomed to failure, it is only a matter of time before the Simpsons dome is firmly in place over a ragion with a radius of about 20 kilometers. Impossible you say? Just wait.


From DJ:

Workers will erect a steel framework and place a giant polyester tent-like cover around the reactor building. Similar covers will be placed around units No. 3 and 4. The work is expected to be completed by the end of the year.

A series of hydrogen explosions blew off the roofs and upper walls of the three reactors in the days after the March 11 earthquake and tsunami knocked out their cooling systems, triggering the overheating of the reactors.

The explosions scattered a large amount of radioactive debris in the area around the reactors. Workers will have to clear the debris near the No. 1 unit so that cranes and other heavy equipment can approach the reactor. TEPCO said it began shifting debris from the area around the unit Friday.

The damaged buildings have come to symbolize the severity of the nuclear crisis at the plant, the worst nuclear accident since Chernobyl in 1986.

The loss of the roofs and filters above the reactors has led to the steady release of radioactive substances from the complex, prompting calls for measures to contain contamination in the surrounding areas.


Artist's impression of this latest Japanese venture:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/images/circus_tent.jpg

Glass
13th May 2011, 07:05 PM
"The patriots who worked on nuclear sites and in uranium mines during the Cold War were crucial to maintaining our national security," Mark Udall said. "It's our responsibility now to make sure we help properly take care of those who are dealing with illnesses they contracted because of radiation exposure. This bill will expand RECA so that a wider pool of workers affected and communities downwind will be able to access the compensation they deserve."


not sure being called a patriot is a good thing. It's an interesting move to make on their part though.

Antonio
13th May 2011, 07:26 PM
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/05/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-radiation-on-2nd.html

more than 1 sievert/hr.
PS. 1 sievert equals to 100 Roentgens/hr which means acute radiation sickness in 1 hr.

beefsteak
13th May 2011, 09:36 PM
Osoab,
Thanks for your contributions as well, bro' As far as that tent deal? Bet Guinness book of World Records will end up creating a new category: biggest tent to burst." Sure to be messier than bubble gum in a kid's hair. Hydrogen sure won't be contained in any tent. A reinforced reactor, primary containment and secondary containment couldn't hold the hydrogen. As Eng. Arnie G. said earlier t'day, ".....1000 feet per second detonation distributed fragments in order to end up as far away as they did when Prompt Moderated Criticality from Fukushima 3 detonated as it did.

Glass,
did a double take at the "patriots" label myself on first AND SECOND read today of that article. All I could come up with is that ".....definitions sure have changed in 200+ years." Comparing patriots Washington, Jefferson, Monroe, Franklin, Adams, Hancock, etc., with uranium mining/drilling/milling/transporting patriots.....

:dunno

Antonio,
thanks for that good find. I hadn't heard yet about the 2nd floor readings. WOW! Talk about the needle laying against the bezel from needle fatigue...that just about spells it out.

Antonio
13th May 2011, 09:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3lSLpSHBuY

I don`t know if this has been posted already but at the end of the vid they mention looking for terminally ill people to work there, eerie stuff indeed.

woodman
14th May 2011, 03:30 AM
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/05/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-radiation-on-2nd.html

more than 1 sievert/hr.
PS. 1 sievert equals to 100 Roentgens/hr which means acute radiation sickness in 1 hr.


I liked this reply after the article:

Anonymous said...
How on earth did the Japanese kamakaze pilots ever muster the strength to dive planes full of explosives into ships, when these scared pansies cannot even face a runaway nuke plant today. The world needs to invade Japan, seal these plants up and leave them with their glow in the dark island. They will not need lights by the time they get done, as the whole place will glow. Did the people of the world miss the part where they announced that Fukishima could be a world killer, as it has the potential to be just that, and is much worse than Chernobyl ever was. Everyone in America is too busy watching the tele, and drinking fluoride to care as most here don't realize what is going down in Japan. I guess that's what happens when a man who fakes being president rekills osama bin laden, a known CIA asset, for a chance to run again, and hide the fact he is worse than any president in history. Wake up and smell the BS you assclowns.

May 13, 2011 9:57 PM

keehah
15th May 2011, 10:31 AM
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/13_03.html

meltdown at unit1.

Finita la comedia.

Friday they admit meltdown state, Sunday they admit it all happened two months ago.

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/15_21.html

Rapid meltdown in No.1 reactor

Tokyo Electric Power Company, the operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, says most of the fuel rods in the No.1 reactor had dropped to the bottom of the pressure vessel within 16 hours of the earthquake on March 11th.

The utility revealed its study on the subject on Sunday.

TEPCO said it analyzed the data and calculated a timeline for the developments in the No. 1 reactor on the assumption that the reactor lost its cooling system as soon as it was hit by the tsunami.

The firm said that within about 3 hours after the reactor automatically shut down, the cooling water had evaporated to a level at the top of the rods.

In the next hour and a half, parts of the fuel rods are believed to have begun melting.

The temperature of the fuel rods is believed to have reached 2,800 degrees Celsius at this stage, and the meltdown advanced rapidly.

Almost of all the fuel rods melted and dropped to the bottom of the pressure vessel by 6:50 am on March 12th.

TEPCO said the temperature dropped after water was poured into the reactor starting at 5:50 am on the same day.

The firm says the melted rods created small holes on the bottom of the vessel, but that no major problems are developing there. It believes that the amount of radioactive substances that could spread from the reactor will be limited.

Sunday, May 15, 2011 23:29 +0900 (JST)

beefsteak
15th May 2011, 10:54 AM
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/05/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-radiation-on-2nd.html

more than 1 sievert/hr.
PS. 1 sievert equals to 100 Roentgens/hr which means acute radiation sickness in 1 hr.


I liked this reply after the article:

Anonymous said...
How on earth did the Japanese kamakaze pilots ever muster the strength to dive planes full of explosives into ships, when these scared pansies cannot even face a runaway nuke plant today. The world needs to invade Japan, seal these plants up and leave them with their glow in the dark island. They will not need lights by the time they get done, as the whole place will glow. Did the people of the world miss the part where they announced that Fukishima could be a world killer, as it has the potential to be just that, and is much worse than Chernobyl ever was. Everyone in America is too busy watching the tele, and drinking fluoride to care as most here don't realize what is going down in Japan. I guess that's what happens when a man who fakes being president rekills osama bin laden, a known CIA asset, for a chance to run again, and hide the fact he is worse than any president in history. Wake up and smell the BS you assclowns.

May 13, 2011 9:57 PM


Woodman,
Loud and clear where you are coming from, bro' when you posted that Anonymous' commentary. However, some slightly different thoughts came hard on the heels of the Kamizake then and pansies labeling now...

I'm not so sure there aren't plenty of Japanese that would very much like to shut this down and quit being poisoned closer to home. For one thing, they are still very much in shock. Multiple massive disruptive deaths, plus emotional numbing, and financial wipeouts everywhere one looks, atop the search for safe food and water with no money to purchase, ATOP of literally struggling with securing personal space in gymnasium cardboarded sections, or participating in the obvious bewildering farm coop conversations at the grain scales...this is literally overwhelming. Of the highest order. It's kind of like our Katrina. No Kamikazes here in America either, and it's been how many years?

The Katrina "enemy" is / was the Weather. Where does one go to kill "weather?"

The poisoned GoM...where does one go to kill Corexit? Or kill corporate BP?

In us vs them type traditional war, there is a defined enemy. They have a face, a name, a label, a geographic location. Easy to pick "them" out in a crowd.

In this nucleated war, it is
a corporation
with a logo,
manipulated news,
unthinkable has happened and hasn't been planned for,
mad scramble resembling very much like CYA,
confusion, and
outright stupid control of the masses ...
....which are the order of the day. There are no Kamikaze pilots to whom orders can be issued.

When the muddle subsides mentally,
and the paralysis of massive, genocidal shock wears off,
someone --most likely outside of Japan--who is bigger, meaner, more well funded, and can pull off a purposeful response-- WILL figure out a way to tackle this, imposing EXTERNAL WILL, and without overt regard to the "bottom line $$" being the current primary motivator. THEN, something will happen.

And I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever, the ordinary Japanese folk, BOTH military or civilian, will arise to the occasion and participate in shut this whole thing down. ALL 8 or 10 nuke facilities currently in trouble (acc'd to Shimatsu), even tho' the focus is on the obvious birdie...Fukushima #1-#6

I sincerely hope and pray Japan doesn't have to become an "atoll in the Pacific" first, like that Anthrax devastated Atoll, also in the Pacific currently. However, it looks to me like that's just where it's headed until or when the Corporation gets a human face and can be hunted down and dealt with.

Until your post, I hadn't thought of how much more difficult it is to "see" this particular enemy of not only the state, but the planet.

Thanks for your post.

beefsteak

osoab
15th May 2011, 03:00 PM
The whole tent idea has me confused. Seems like a complete waste of effort.

What good will a tent do?

Will it blow away in a Typhoon? More than likely.

Will it keep the eyes in the sky from seeing in? This seems like the more likely reason.

beefsteak
15th May 2011, 05:49 PM
[size=11pt]Sunday Evening Japan Update:



TEPCO trying to “prevent re-criticality” at Reactor No. 3 — Temperature soaring in pressure vessel, up over 100°F in 24 hours even after increasing water injection
May 15th, 2011 at 05:56 PM

Translation from Japanese into English:

#1)
15 TEPCO, the world prevent the Second Coming of the Unit 3 reactor at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station, the reactor cooling water, on a dissolved boric acid to absorb neutrons, the same day to the reactor announced that the injection began.

Will be the No. 1 and 2, take the same measures.

Critical re-continuous fission phenomenon again. 1 – Unit 3 reactor pressure vessel was initially injected in the history of water for cooling, TEPCO was seen as the salt will absorb neutrons. The boric acid is dissolved in water cooling, since instead of fresh water from seawater cooling down because it is seen that the salinity.

Meanwhile, the pressure vessel of Unit 3 are top of the soaring temperatures. TEPCO “There is a possibility that water is leaking irrigation pipe as a” pipe from the 12th to add another 12 tonnes of water filling the pipe with two per clock. Has increased from 14 to 15 tons per clock injection volume, temperature of the top 24 in no time at 5:00 am on July 15 rose 46.5 degrees, was 297 degrees. TEPCO said, “is still not going well injection” sees.

Translation from Japanese:

#2:)
TEPCO announced on May 15 that it started to use boric acid in the reactor cooling water for the Reactor 3 at Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant to prevent recriticality from happening. [...]

[T]he temperature at the top of the Reactor 3 RPV has risen rapidly. TEPCO increased the amount of cooling water to 12 tons per hour on May 12 using two water feeding systems, then to 15 tons per hour on May 14. However, the temperature at the top of the RPV increased by 46.5 degrees Celsius in 24 hours to 297 degrees Celsius as of 5:00AM on May 15. TEPCO thinks there’s a problem with the pipes that feed water into the RPV.

Interesting, is it not, that translator # 2 "omitted" some goodies translator #1 included...such as the phrase:
Critical re-continuous fission phenomenon again.

http://enenews.com/tepco-trying-to-prevent-re-criticality-at-reactor-no-3-temperature-soaring-in-pressure-vessel-up-100-f-in-24-hours-even-after-increasing-water-injection

beefsteak

gunDriller
15th May 2011, 07:15 PM
The firm says the melted rods created small holes on the bottom of the vessel, but that no major problems are developing there. It believes that the amount of radioactive substances that could spread from the reactor will be limited.

Sunday, May 15, 2011 23:29 +0900 (JST)


the amount of radiation that spread from Chernobyl was limited.

same for the radiation from Hiroshima & Nagasaki.

same for the DU in Iraq. it's all limited. deadly, and limited.


they're not telling us anything. they might as well say, the reactor is safe because the sky is blue. :sarc:


i feel re-assured. :sarc: :sarc:

beefsteak
15th May 2011, 07:42 PM
Russian media continues to be a lesser intimidated by TEPCO control beacon of information. I never thought I'd live to utter those words, but I'm grateful for "nuclear truths" regardless of "byline"....

http://en.rian.ru/images/16301/93/163019397.jpg

URL for seeing in enlarged format,...a.k.a., look for the "magnifying glass with the plus on it" hovering over the image on the link below: (click said magnifying glass to enlarge image)

http://en.rian.ru/images/16301/93/163019397.jpg

PLEASE NOTE:
in enlarged visual format proffered above: the 2month mark was delineated by the Russian source of that graphic. The ORIGINAL IODINE is 60 days into its 80 day "half-life" progression...the Cesium and Strontium we have with us for decades going forward. That was Fukushima Day 1, back on March 11, which TEPCO is now admitting was when meltdown occurred. We've had new Iodine and New Cesium and New Strontium and NEW plutonium and NEW Tellerium every day since....

Sobering.....

beefsteak

beefsteak
15th May 2011, 10:04 PM
According to another forum, the following link provides current monitoring (through May 14) of Fukushima#3 Temp and Pressure. I only see 2 columns of Temperatures. I can't read Japanese, therefore, I'm not sure.

Perhaps Osaka will be able to return and give us a clue as to whether this updates automatically, or something. I was able to see the date currently showing at this hour is 5/15/2011; and columns A & B appear to be in Celsius.

http://atmc.jp/plant/temperature/?n=3

Snapshot as of time this post is being made:(Click English and then Translate Button) near top of this page...it helps somewhat...
COLUMNS A & B are:
A water nozzle temperature reactor.
B pressure vessel lower temperature .

"X" axis = Temp
"Y" axis = Day of month

https://chart.googleapis.com/chart?chof=gif&cht=lc&chxt=x,y&chxl=0:|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|5/1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14&chs=500x320&chd=t:0,0|93.3,85.9,81.1,84.9,67.9,72.0,86.0,81.3, 84.8,93.7,100.8,116.6,128.5,156.6,163.5,180.2,206. 2,216.4,214.5,220.3,215.9,170.5,154.9|111.6,109.4, 110.6,110.8,110.4,110.7,109.6,112.9,113.4,118.4,12 5.3,135.1,140.0,143.5,147.4,150.3,151.9,154.3,151. 9,152.4,150.2,145.7,148.1&chg=4.54,10&chco=0000FF,FF0000,FF9900&chds=0,500&chxr=0,0,500|1,0,500&chls=2,2,3|3,2,0|3,2,0&chm=o,FF0000,1,0:-1,8|o,FF9900,2,0:-1,8&chf=bg,ls,0,DDDDDD,0.15,FFFFFF,0.1

beefsteak

Antonio
16th May 2011, 12:33 AM
A Russian political scientist said that PR stops working when the temperature in people`s appartments falls to 40C below zero.
I guess the MSM lies about what is happening in Japan will also stop working when geiger clicks reach a certain number.
Too bad that so many will die or at least ruin their health before the final awareness sets in.
They have kids attending HS wearing face masks. This is what insanity looks like. You don`t send your kids to school if they need to wear masks, you run with them to a place where masks are not needed.
What`s the use for a HS diploma if the kid is in need of a bone-marrow transplant?

PatColo
16th May 2011, 07:42 PM
The usual Mon night lineup on Rense tonight, re Fukushima, 2nd & 3rd hours (8 - 10 PM PT):

Dr. Bill Deagle
Fukushima Situation Deteriorating

From Hong Kong
Yoichi Shimatsu
Fukushima Report

Serpo
16th May 2011, 09:10 PM
Who Will Take the Radioactive
Rods From Fukushima?
By Yoichi Shimatsu
Exclusive to Rense.com
Former Editor of the Japan Times Weekly
A Hong Kong-Based Environmental Writer
5-15-11
The decommissioning of the Fukushima 1 nuclear plant is delayed by a single problem: Where to dispose of the uranium fuel rods? Many of those rods are extremely radioactive and partially melted, and some contain highly lethal plutonium.

Besides the fissile fuel inside the plant's six reactors, more than 7 tons of spent rods have to be removed to a permanent storage site before workers can bury the Fukushima facility under concrete. The rods cannot be permanently stored in Japan because the country's new waste storage centers on the northeast tip of Honshu are built on unsuitable land. The floors of the Rokkasho reprocessing facility and Mutsu storage unit are cracked from uneven sinking into the boggy soil.

Entombment of the rods inside the Fukushima 1 reactors carries enormous risks because the footing of landfill cannot support the weight of the fuel rods in addition to the reactors and cooling water inside the planned concrete containment walls. The less reactive spent fuel would have to be kept inside air-cooled dry casks. The powerful earthquakes that frequently strike the Tohoku region will eventually undermine the foundations, causing radioactive wastewater to pour unstoppably into the Pacific Ocean. The rods must therefore go to another country.

American Bad Faith

Under the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), signed by Japan in 1970, Washington's negotiators stipulated that used nuclear fuel from Japanese reactors must by law be shipped to the United States for storage or reprocessing to prevent the development of an atomic bomb. Washington has been unable to fulfill its treaty obligations to Tokyo due to the public outcry against the proposed Yucca Mountain storage facility near Las Vegas.

A panel convened by the Obama administration has just recommended the set up of a network of storage sites across the United States, a controversy certain to revive the anti-nuclear sentiments during the upcoming election campaign. The American nuclear industry has its own stockpile of more than 60,000 tons of spent fuel - not counting waste from reactors used for military and research purposes - leaving no space for Fukushima's rods inside the Nevada disposal site, if indeed it is ever opened.

To Continental Asia

The Tokyo Electric Power Company (Tepco) has allocated 1 trillion yen ($12 billion) in funds for nuclear waste disposal. Areva, the French nuclear monopoly, has teamed up with Tepco to find an overseas storage site. So far, the Tepco-Areva team have quietly contacted three Asian countries - Kazakhstan, China and Mongolia -- to set up a center for "reprocessing", a euphemism for nuclear dump site.

Among the threesome, China was the top choice for the Japanese nuclear establishment, which has confidence in Beijing's ability to safeguard nuclear secrets from its citizenry and even from the top leaders. Japan's space agency, which keeps 24-hour satellite observation over every nuclear-related facility in China, possesses the entire record of radiation leaks there. Since Beijing withholds this sort of data from the public, the Japanese side felt it had the necessary leverage in talks with Chinese nuclear officials.

Though the nuclear-sector bureaucrats were initially eager to receive bundles of yen, the proposal was blown away by the salt craze that swept over China. Within a couple of weeks of the Fukushima meltdowns, millions of shoppers emptied supermarket shelves on rumors that iodized salt could prevent radiation-caused thyroid cancer. The Chinese public is rightfully fearful of health-related scandals after discoveries of melamine in milk, growth hormones in pork, pesticides in vegetables, antibiotics in fish and now radioactive fallout over farmland.

A nuclear disposal deal would require trucks loaded with radioactive cargo to roll through a densely populated port, perhaps Tianjin or Ningbo, in the dead of night. There is no way that secret shipments wouldn't be spotted by locals with smart phones, triggering a mass exodus from every city, town and village along the route to the dumping grounds in China's far west. Thus, the skittishness of the ordinary Chinese citizen knocked out the easiest of nefarious plans.

Principle of Industrial Recovery

A more logical choice for overseas storage is in the sparsely populated countries that supply uranium ore to Japan, particularly Australia and Canada. As exporters of uranium, Canberra and Ottawa are ultimately responsible for storage of the nuclear waste under the legal principle of industrial recovery.

The practice of industrial recovery is already well-established in the consumer electronics and household appliances sectors where manufacturers are required by an increasing number of countries to take back and recycle used television sets, computers and refrigerators.

Under the principle, uranium mining giants like Rio Tinto and CAMECO would be required to take back depleted uranium. The cost of waste storage would then be factored into the export price for uranium ore. The added cost is passed along to utility companies and ultimately the consumer through a higher electricity rate. If the market refuses to bear the higher price for uranium as compared with other fuels, then nuclear power will go the way of the steam engine.

Australian and Canadian politicians are bound to opportunistically oppose the return of depleted uranium since any shipments from Fukushima would be met by a massive turnout of "not-in-my-backyard" protesters. The only way for Tokyo to convince the local politicos to go along quietly is by threatening to publish an online list of the bribe-takers in parliament who had earlier backed uranium mining on behalf of the Japanese interests.

Nuclear's Cost-Efficiency

The question then arise whether nuclear power, when long-term storage fees are included, is competitive with investment in renewable energy such as wind, solar, hydro and tidal resources. Renewable energy probably has the edge since they don't create waste. Natural gas remains the undisputed price beater wherever it is available in abundance. In a free market without hidden subsidies, nuclear is probably doomed.

In a lapse of professionalism, the International Atomic Energy Commission (IAEA) has never seriously addressed nuclear-waste disposal as an industrywide issue. Based on the ration of spent rods to reactor fuel inside U.S. nuclear facilities, there are close to 200,000 metric tons of high-level nuclear waste at the 453 civilian nuclear-energy plants worldwide. Yet not a single permanent storage site has ever been opened anywhere.

The Fukushima 1 dilemma shows that the issues of cost-efficiency and technological viability can no longer be deferred or ignored. Ratings agencies report that Tepco's outstanding debt has soared beyond $90 billion, meaning that it cannot cover future costs of storing spent rods from its Kashiwazaki and Fukushima 2 nuclear plants. The Japanese government's debt has soared to 200 percent of GDP. Neither entity can afford the rising cost of nuclear power.

The inability of Tepco or the government to pay for nuclear waste disposal puts the financial liability squarely on its partner companies and suppliers, including GE, Toshiba, Hitachi, Kajima Construction and especially the sources of the uranium, CAMECO and Rio Tinto and the governments of Canada and Australia. A fundamental rule of both capitalism and civil law is that somebody has to pay.

Last Stop

Since Australia and Canada aren't in any hurry to take back the radioactive leftovers, that leaves Japan and treaty-partner United States with only one option for quick disposal- Mongolia.

Ulan Bator accepts open-pit mining for coal and copper, which are nothing but gigantic toxic sites, so why not take the melted-down nuclear rods? Its GDP, ranked 136 among the world's economies, is estimated to be $5.8 billion in 2010. Thus, $12 billion is an unimaginable sum for one more hole in the ground.

Not that Mongolia would get the entirety of the budget, since the nuclear cargo would have to transit through the Russian Far East. Unlike the health-conscious Chinese, the population of Nakhodka or Vladivostok are used to playing fast-and-loose with radioactive materials and vodka.

Even if the mafia that runs the Russian transport industry were to demand a disproportionate cut, Mongolia's 3 million inhabitants would be overjoyed at gaining about $2,000 each, more than the average annual income, that is if the money is divided evenly after the costs of building the dump.

Realistically, the Mongolian people are unlikely to receive a penny, since the money will go into a trust fund for maintenance costs. That's because $12 billion spread over the half-life of uranium - 700 million years - is equivalent to $17 in annual rent. That doesn't even cover kibble bits for the watchdog on duty, much less the cooling system. Not that anyone will be counting since by the time uranium decays to a safe level, fossils will be the sole remnant of human life on Earth.

Illusory, shortsighted greed will surely triumph in Mongolia, and that leaves a question of moral accountability for the rest of us. Will the world community feel remorse for dumping its nuclear mess onto an ancient culture that invented boiled mutton, fermented mare's milk and Genghis Khan? For guilt-ridden diplomats from Tokyo and Washington wheedling the dirty deal in Ulan Bator, here's the rebuttal: Did the national hero, the Great Khan, ever shed any tears or feel pangs of guilt? There's no need for soul-searching. A solution is at hand.



http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/who-will-take-the-radioactive-rods-from-fukushima/

lapis
17th May 2011, 09:55 AM
I freaked out a little this morning. Around 7, I let one of my cats out of the garage, and noticed a chemical smell outside. I thought it may be due to my neighbor spraying pesticides or something (people in the suburbs are big on pesticides and cleaning products).

But then about 45 minutes later when I went to drive my daughter to school, it had started sprinkling and I noticed that the chemical smell was still there, like it was coming down with the rain and/or mixing with something in the dry soil.

I emailed one of my friends who lives about 10 miles away and she said she smelled something similar. Still waiting on others to email me back.

In other news:

Nearly 3,000 taken to hospitals by ambulances from quake shelters (http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/nearly-3000-taken-to-hospitals-by-ambulances-from-quake-shelters)

"Nearly 3,000 evacuees living in shelters in three of the northeastern Japan prefectures worst affected by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami have been taken to hospital by ambulance, according to a Kyodo News survey released Tuesday.

At least 2,816 evacuees suffering from stress and poor hygienic conditions were rushed to hospitals from shelters in coastal parts of the Pacific prefectures Iwate, Fukushima and Miyagi, the survey of 15 local fire departments showed."

Stress and poor hygienic conditions, huh? Hopefully it is something temporary and not life-threatening like that. I hope it's not radiation poisoning.

sirgonzo420
17th May 2011, 10:52 AM
I freaked out a little this morning. Around 7, I let one of my cats out of the garage, and noticed a chemical smell outside. I thought it may be due to my neighbor spraying pesticides or something (people in the suburbs are big on pesticides and cleaning products).

But then about 45 minutes later when I went to drive my daughter to school, it had started sprinkling and I noticed that the chemical smell was still there, like it was coming down with the rain and/or mixing with something in the dry soil.

I emailed one of my friends who lives about 10 miles away and she said she smelled something similar. Still waiting on others to email me back.

In other news:

Nearly 3,000 taken to hospitals by ambulances from quake shelters (http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/nearly-3000-taken-to-hospitals-by-ambulances-from-quake-shelters)

"Nearly 3,000 evacuees living in shelters in three of the northeastern Japan prefectures worst affected by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami have been taken to hospital by ambulance, according to a Kyodo News survey released Tuesday.

At least 2,816 evacuees suffering from stress and poor hygienic conditions were rushed to hospitals from shelters in coastal parts of the Pacific prefectures Iwate, Fukushima and Miyagi, the survey of 15 local fire departments showed."

Stress and poor hygienic conditions, huh? Hopefully it is something temporary and not life-threatening like that. I hope it's not radiation poisoning.


Lapis, I think you would do well to have a Geiger counter of some sort.

lapis
17th May 2011, 11:00 AM
It would be nice! But last time I checked, the good ones are sold out.

lapis
17th May 2011, 11:25 AM
The rain is probably not due to radiation, but seems like one more sign of DOOOOOM!!!!!!

beefsteak
17th May 2011, 09:13 PM
PatColo,
Thanks again for the Rense' headzup w/r/t last evenings scheduled interviews. Frankly, I felt like I was sitting in on an episode of the old "Gong Show" and my future and that of my family was the Gong that kept being nailed by TPTB and TEPCO/Fukushima.

Yoichi Shimatsu's abbreviated interview was soddenly sobering, as well. He informed that TEPCO was releasing a "new updated whozit" today, and sure enough they did.

The only thing that struck me as I found it online at ZeroHedge was that it was "colorful" and very graphic...but not in a truth telling kind of graphicity I would prefer.

Shimatsu's announcement last evening that the much vaunted AREVA remodel of the offsite radiation remediation site contracted to be completed in January isn't even a real "thing" as currently being held out in TEPCO's plan. Nope, not at all. Seems the building being retrofitted by AREVA prior to Fukushima, has humongous CRACKS in it and would hold about as much radioactive water as a tea strainer in an Englishman's pantry.

That landed with a thud on my ears.

Shimatsu also stated basically F #1 is the "practice" unit, and Rense followedup with the "blast of radiation" assessment which I'd not heard details of as graphically as Rense presented them when #1 was opened last week. The conversation digressed to hiring druggies and drunk and relying upon the Japanese Mafia for bodies for feeding the Deadly Radiation Firing Cannon. Shimatsu--boots on the ground journalist that he is legitimately known for and peer acknowledged in the Asian genre-- did NOT correct Rense's recitation, which was even more damning in my opinion.

It would have been better a better presentation if Rense wouldn't have performed his patented indulgence in chest thumping "I told you so's." That gets so tiresome being bleated from the lips of the self-righteous. What evidence has there ever been that piety and Pharisee breast beating has ever saved one hide, one soul, or one thin dime in the scheme of things?

beefsteak

beefsteak
17th May 2011, 09:40 PM
.

TEPCO PDF file ENTITLED:
Roadmap towards RESTORATION from the Accident at Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Station.

A splash of 4 colors on this enlargement adjustable PDF, to break up the monotony and give the public who can only read pictures something to talk about.

WARNING: Clicking the link below only brings up a 50.9% sized image

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/betu11_e/images/110517e2.pdf

beefsteak
17th May 2011, 09:46 PM
.

TEPCO Progress Report PDF ENTITLED:
Current Status of Roadmap (issues/targets/major countermeasures) as of May 17

LOTS OF COLORS on these 8 pages of PDF. Special note should be mentioned of the picture of the Zeolite used on Page 6, (not, not all piddly 300#) which is spitting on a wildfire. Also, please note on Page 7, the artist rendering of what the proposed tented covering of each reactor is conceptually proffered. Now THAT is riveting. :sarc:

Clicking the following link will produce a PDF in 72.1% size.
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/betu11_e/images/110517e3.pdf

beefsteak
17th May 2011, 10:04 PM
.

TEPCO Progress Report: Part 3 19 pages PDF.

Progress status of cooling (reactors) (Description) Pages 1-5

Progress status of cooling (Spent Fuel Pool) (Description) Pages 6-8

Implementation status of mitigation (Accumulated Water) (Description) Pages 9-10 (Yes 2 photos showing unimpressive zeolite)

Progress Mitigation (Groundwater)(Description) Page 11 (only 1 page? hmmmm)

Progress status of mitigation (Atmosphere/ soil) (Description) Pages 11-14 (Bigger Picture of PROPOSED Tent on Page 14-- :sarc: )

Progress status of decontamination and monitoring (Description) Pages 15-16 (Page 15 contains "dosage" scattergram/chart)

Progress status of countermeasures against aftershocks, etc. (Description) Pages 17-18

Progress status of environment improvement (Description) Page 19

Don't we all feel so much better now?

Clicking on following link will bring up 45.4% image sized PDF, which is adjustable.
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/betu11_e/images/110517e5.pdf

gunDriller
18th May 2011, 06:16 AM
well, at least they called it a "Progress Report".

at least they didn't call it a "Japan is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fucked" Report. :sarc:

beefsteak
18th May 2011, 12:02 PM
Gunny,
did you notice there wasn't one photograph displayed of the plutonium contaminated object discovered over 2 miles away in a rice field? Found that curious.

Here's more from that 3rd Progress report/PDF: Page 14. When did they start making containers out of lead, or even lead lined????

Ever seen radioactive waste stacked so nicely. Unguarded? And UNLABELED??? They are using remote controlled equipment to remove waste from the various explosions, but they couldn't find any little radioactive yellow stickers to put on those GLOWING BLUE containers?
And why aren't they buried already??

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/beefsteak_GIM/StackedContainerizedRadioactiveWaste.jpg

beefsteak

beefsteak
18th May 2011, 12:40 PM
Say whaaaaaaaaat? :o :o :o Hope THIS becomes a campaign issue instead of the forged birth certificate

Wednesday, May 18, 2011
Release of radioactive water made at request of U.S.

more: http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110518x3.html

beefsteak

gunDriller
18th May 2011, 02:09 PM
Gunny,
did you notice there wasn't one photograph displayed of the plutonium contaminated object discovered over 2 miles away in a rice field? Found that curious.


no ... it takes me awhile to absorb all the info.

still, i appreciate the document. good for showing what the reactors look like.

Serpo
19th May 2011, 04:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Kvsst9s0ygw#at=201May 16, 2011

Cesium-137 rising in samples of strawberries, kale, and grass from Northern California & ALERT: Melted fuel in No. 1 reactor NOT covered with water! + China Syndrome "might just have happened at Fukushima" — Molten fuel may have "melted through everything into the earth"

www.paltalk.com/download.php
join room from here, it seems to be working now, if not look for "Future of things according to the webbots" in "government & politics"
or click here www.paltalk.com/g2/group/1365402390/DisplayGroupDetails.wmt

" CBC ALERT! Fallout for BC,CANADA & USA" www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEsHbN-75e8&feature=player_embedded

** Health Canada **
"Canadian Guidelines for the Restriction of Radioactively Contaminated Food and Water Following a Nuclear Emergency" hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/pubs/contaminants/emergency-urgence/recommended-r...


"ALERT: Melted fuel in No. 1 reactor NOT covered with water" enenews.com/alert-melted-fuel-in-no-1-reactor-not-covered-with-water


" Cesium-137 rising in samples of strawberries, kale, and grass from Northern California " enenews.com/cesium-137-rising-samples-strawberries-kale-grass-northern...

" Reactor No. 1 core had total meltdown and uranium fuel may be outside containment building — Nuclear reaction could have restarted" enenews.com/reactor-no-1-core-had-a-total-meltdown-and-uranium-fuel-ma...


" Highly radioactive substances detected in Tokyo — Higher than what was found near Fukushima plant" enenews.com/highly-radioactive-substances-detected-in-tokyo-higher-tha...


" Tepco says fuel in Reactors No. 2 and 3 may have melted — Announcement about the two reactors "will be made later" enenews.com/tepco-fuel-reactors-2-3-melted-announcement-about-reactors...


" Fukushima I Nuke Plant: Radiation on 2nd Floor of Reactor 1 Exceeded 1,000 Millisieverts/Hour" ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/05/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-radiation-on-2nd.html


" Watch Simulation Of 3 Million Gallons Of Dumped Radioactive Seawater Spread Through Pacific Ocean" blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/06/seawater-radiation-plume-simulati...

" TEPCO trying to "prevent re-criticality" at Reactor No. 3 — Temperature soaring in pressure vessel, up over 100°F in 24 hours even after increasing water injection " enenews.com/tepco-trying-to-prevent-re-criticality-at-reactor-no-3-tem...

"Japan Nuclear Radiation Rainwater Update -- Idaho Iodine Levels 14,066% Above EPA Limit"
blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/23/japan-nuclear-radiation-rainwater...

Fukushima "nuclear meltdown" radiation "Restriction of Radioactively Contaminated" fallout disaster fear radiation "deadly gas" bunker "food storage" water storage contaminated foodhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Kvsst9s0ygw#at=201
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/643/584/Fukushima_Day_67-_Matters_Turn_Much_Worse_While_Health_Canada_EPA_O k_Radioactive_Food_Water.html

PatColo
19th May 2011, 05:07 AM
** Health Canada **
"Canadian Guidelines for the Restriction of Radioactively Contaminated Food and Water Following a Nuclear Emergency" hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/pubs/contaminants/emergency-urgence/recommended-r...


"ALERT: Melted fuel in No. 1 reactor NOT covered with water" enenews.com/alert-melted-fuel-in-no-1-reactor-not-covered-with-water


" Cesium-137 rising in samples of strawberries, kale, and grass from Northern California " enenews.com/cesium-137-rising-samples-strawberries-kale-grass-northern...


notice where the urls were truncated with the "...", this raises an interesting topic I've thought about starting a thread on.

I just pasted the youtube description in a reply to your dedicated thread on this video. I initially did the same thing, c/p the text... then previewed and noticed most URLs truncated. So went back to youtube page, right-click-- Copy Link Location, came back to GSUS to paste, was going to do that for each one.

This is where youtube gets tricky. You know how you can mouse-over a link, and in the lower left of your browser it displays the actual URL? Do that in youtube and it displays the final destination link as you see most of already in the truncated version. But right-click-- Copy Link Location, then paste what the clipboard captured, and you see the real initial URL is loaded up with a fancy redirect/tracker URL... In the case of the first link in the quote box above, the final URL is
http://hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/pubs/contaminants/emergency-urgence/recommended-recommandes-eng.php#t24

but right-click-- Copy Link Location of the truncated URL, and paste it somewhere and this is what you get:
http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fhc-sc.gc.ca%2Fewh-semt%2Fpubs%2Fcontaminants%2Femergency-urgence%2Frecommended-recommandes-eng.php%33t22&session_token=_8lwj4MlXQfzN-9zT9r3qoNf33184TMwNTgfMTg2OEAxdzA1ODA15DY4

Isn't that cute how they even hide that lengthy tracking URL from you by spoofing your browser's mouse-over preview so that it hides that ugly tracking URL? It's like they don't want you to know, er sumthin!!

here's the youtube description I posted in your other thread, with un-truncated URLs, & without the crazy session_tokens:



still watching, but note it has this lengthy youtube description,


Uploaded by connectingdots1 on May 16, 2011

Cesium-137 rising in samples of strawberries, kale, and grass from Northern California & ALERT: Melted fuel in No. 1 reactor NOT covered with water! + China Syndrome "might just have happened at Fukushima" — Molten fuel may have "melted through everything into the earth"

http://www.paltalk.com/download.php
join room from here, it seems to be working now, if not look for "Future of things according to the webbots" in "government & politics"
or click here http://www.paltalk.com/g2/group/1365402390/DisplayGroupDetails.wmt

" CBC ALERT! Fallout for BC,CANADA & USA" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEsHbN-75e8&feature=player_embedded

** Health Canada **
"Canadian Guidelines for the Restriction of Radioactively Contaminated Food and Water Following a Nuclear Emergency" http://hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/pubs/contaminants/emergency-urgence/recommended-recommandes-eng.php#t24

"ALERT: Melted fuel in No. 1 reactor NOT covered with water" http://enenews.com/alert-melted-fuel-in-no-1-reactor-not-covered-with-water



" Cesium-137 rising in samples of strawberries, kale, and grass from Northern California " http://enenews.com/cesium-137-rising-samples-strawberries-kale-grass-northern-california

" Reactor No. 1 core had total meltdown and uranium fuel may be outside containment building — Nuclear reaction could have restarted" http://enenews.com/reactor-no-1-core-had-a-total-meltdown-and-uranium-fuel-may-be-outside-the-concrete-containment-building-nuclear-reaction-could-have-restarted


" Highly radioactive substances detected in Tokyo — Higher than what was found near Fukushima plant" http://enenews.com/highly-radioactive-substances-detected-in-tokyo-higher-than-what-was-found-near-fukushima-plant


" Tepco says fuel in Reactors No. 2 and 3 may have melted — Announcement about the two reactors "will be made later" http://enenews.com/tepco-fuel-reactors-2-3-melted-announcement-about-reactors-will-be-made-later


" Fukushima I Nuke Plant: Radiation on 2nd Floor of Reactor 1 Exceeded 1,000 Millisieverts/Hour" http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/05/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-radiation-on-2nd.html


" Watch Simulation Of 3 Million Gallons Of Dumped Radioactive Seawater Spread Through Pacific Ocean" http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/06/seawater-radiation-plume-simulation-watch-3-million-gallons-dumped-radioactive-seawater-spread-pacific-14619/

" TEPCO trying to "prevent re-criticality" at Reactor No. 3 — Temperature soaring in pressure vessel, up over 100°F in 24 hours even after increasing water injection " http://enenews.com/tepco-trying-to-prevent-re-criticality-at-reactor-no-3-temperature-soaring-in-pressure-vessel-up-100-f-in-24-hours-even-after-increasing-water-injection

"Japan Nuclear Radiation Rainwater Update -- Idaho Iodine Levels 14,066% Above EPA Limit"
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/23/japan-nuclear-radiation-rainwater-update-idaho-iodine-levels-14066-epa-limit-19907/

Fukushima "nuclear meltdown" radiation "Restriction of Radioactively Contaminated" fallout disaster fear radiation "deadly gas" bunker "food storage" water storage contaminated food



Sorry for the tangent, back to radiation doom news.

Serpo
19th May 2011, 02:53 PM
TEPCO Releases Photos of Tsunami Waters Around its Plant
By IB Times Staff Reporter | May 19, 2011 07:13 AM EDT

Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) released Thursday handout tsunami waters photos taken from near its number 5 reactor at Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant on March 11, when a 8.9 magnitude earthquake struck Japan that triggered the tsunami.

Waves up to 30-foot high engulf the port city of Sendai after a magnitude 8.9 earthquake struck off the north east coast of Japan on March 11. Earthquakes are common in Japan, one of the world's most seismically active areas. The country accounts for about 20 percent of the world's earthquakes of magnitude 6 or greater.

Japan's economy shrank much more than expected in the first quarter and slipped into recession after the triple blow of the March earthquake, tsunami and nuclear crisis hit business and consumer spending and tore apart supply chains.

Take a glimpse of the tsunami waters at the TEPCO plant:





http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/148344/20110519/tokyo-electric-power-company-tepco-tsunami-japan-earthquake-march-11-nuclear-plant-crisis-economy.htm

beefsteak
19th May 2011, 03:24 PM
Thanks, Serpo,

Don't know that I would have had the courage to stand ontop of a Nuke Pwr Plant #5 taking pictures.

I think one of the captions pretty much summed it up:
"Taken Mar 11, TEPCO released May 19"

Must take a very long time to get digital film images developed in Japan after the Quake....

beefsteak

keehah
20th May 2011, 01:30 AM
The particles are out there, many will breathe one, then it will kill them. These effects are ignored in radiation safety assurances that look at risk of external dose only so ignore alpha radiation. Alpha radiation 'passes through three or four cells', in lungs, the same cells, once a second, for your entire life until it causes cancer in those cells that kills you.

Christopher Busby: The Negative Health Effects of Low-Dose Radiation from Fukushima 1/2
From: TheAlexJonesChannel | May 18, 2011

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZszDrDfL5A

Part 1 with the Doctor: ...tube.com/watch?v=rCmP83mgUnk
"Many of these radioactive atoms have an affinity to DNA"

beefsteak
20th May 2011, 04:01 PM
THANKS, Keehah,

I find Busby very very credible. I'll be listening to that link you provided a couple 3 times, to absorb the most I can as a layman.


Woodman,
wondering how your research into your 28' well strata between the water table and your surface is going?

Ever locate your watermaster? Learn anything you can share with us from your research? I'm sure thinking about sinking my own well. Just learned from the city that the first 100/115ft is customarily arsenic poisoned, and so 150 is a minimum, and 450 is the best.

What does well sinking cost per ft out where you live? I know it's not cheap for anybody!

beefsteak

lapis
20th May 2011, 05:38 PM
Interview with Akira Tokuhiro, Nuclear Engineer: Fukushima and the Mass Media (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vivian-norris-de-montaigu/interview-with-akira-toku_b_863297.html)

"Only the mass media can put the kind of pressure on TEPCO and the Japanese government to bring about major change. This will cost at least 10 billion dollars if not 20-30 billion to clean up. It will take at least 10 years if not 20 and roughly 10,000 people working on the cleanup. The nuclear business is global. This needs an international effort to clean up Fukushima."
-- Nuclear Engineer Akira Tokuhiro

In an email today, Japanese born, U.S.-educated nuclear engineering professor Tokuhiro wrote the following:

I want to bring up a sensitive point to many who are (may be) identified below.

There is a difference amongst the following: nuclear physicist, nuclear engineer, nuclear reactor operator, nuclear non-proliferation specialist.

During the current crisis, all these 'experts' have been in the media.

The ranking of 'experts' who REALLY know how the reactor accident took place is as follows.

1) Nuclear reactor operator (he/she is really the forensic surgeon, the auto mechanic who can build and drive the car)
2) Nuclear engineer (he/she is the forensic and internal/external medicine practitioner; the automobile design and analysis engineer)

As for the other two, they only understand the principles. It is as if they know the principles of driving a car but have never driven the car nor designed a car nor repaired a car.

Would you ask a podiatrist about a medical heart condition? Would you ask a medical ethicist? I think you get my point.

It takes all kinds of people to run the global nuclear industry. However, who do you trust in terms of knowledge?

There are only a handful of Japanese nuclear engineers working and teaching in the U.S. What Professor Tokuhiro was able to add also included a strong dose of a deep understanding of the Japanese culture. "There is a cultural element in this. The Japanese do not want to be embarrassed". He added that TEPCO is a large entity which only has to answer to the Prime Minister. He added that it is a bit of the "... Only small people pay taxes mentality". The mass media in Japan is only given the information TEPCO and the government want to give them. Labor practices in Japan, he says, are quite brutal and when you get to the bottom of the labor force, those at the top of society do not really care about them."

The numbers are disturbingly higher than we have been lead to believe, the number of homes in the villages which are contaminated, the rice paddies, the fact that the "official" six to nine month cleanup is virtually impossible, no matter how much they do accomplish... all of this is what has being kept off the front pages of the mass media.

The first conversation I had had with Akira Tokuhiro the previous week included the contracts for the clean-up, the bidding process for which was being kept highly secret and is the main reason France's President Sarkozy headed to Japan so soon after the earthquake and tsunami leading to the accident. It will take a very long time for the surveys to be carried out to determine exactly what needs to be decontaminated, and only so much water for example can be processed per day. TEPCO speaks of 500 to 1,000 people involved with the cleanup, but Tokuhiro claims it will take ten times that amount.

"They need to tell people it will take at least 10, maybe 20 years, at least 10 if not 20, or even $30 billion and at least 10,000 people working on this, " he repeated, "This is the most important thing they must tell people. They must be honest with the evacuees."

"It has now been over 60 days that this has been going on and people need information." He added that a mildly anti-nuclear group, CNIC, the Citizen's Nuclear Information Center, had pretty reliable information here (http://cnic.jp/english/topics/safety/earthquake/fukushima.html).

An anonymous colleague in Japan told Tokuhiro this past week that there is no initiative taking place in terms of the health and measuring of those who have been exposed. The IAEA is supposedly sending around 20 experts to help with this, but even they do not have the kind of manpower to deal with such a human catastrophe (yet, Tokuhiro adds, they can find people to go to Iran and Iraq as weapons inspectors).

Virtually any nuclear engineer connected with the industry he or she supports cannot be fully trusted right now to give us the full truth about Fukushima because the truth is simply too damaging to the nuclear industry and they know it. The attitude the industry has as well as the ugly reality that this same energy is tied to the economy which supports full on capitalism must be scaled back Tokuhiro advised. He tells me it is difficult to speak of this in the U.S., but adds that we need to go back to a time when shops were closed on Sundays and we spent time with our families, not using up more energy but actually staying home. I added that we still do this on Sunday and it is often very difficult to find shops open here in France on Sunday except for the local outdoor markets.

A Japanese colleague of his inside of Japan, a radiation oncologist actually originally from Fukushima prefecture says there must be long term health monitoring at least 100,000 people will need to be monitored and they have this expertise in Japan because of the horrific experiences of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

Professor Tokuhiro teaches in Idaho and as an academic he is still free to tell what he believes and believes almost all nuclear engineers following this disaster know, and have known since almost the beginning, that the reactors have melted through the core and that this has not been admitted until just these past few days when access to the computer data from the control rooms was obtained

Why is TEPCO not telling anyone the truth? That these 3 units have partially melted and that they have known this for 3-4 weeks at least. They release only small amounts of information every day. Many nuclear engineering professionals have known, were able to figure out almost from the beginning, in fact perhaps from March 15, sixteen hours or so after the accident, that the core had melted. Was there any operator error involved? He understood that TEPCO workers retreated on March 12 because the radiation readings were simply too high. He believes that within 16 hours after this they already knew the core had melted. And even though no one wants to waste precious time pointing fingers and blaming, this information is much needed in order to learn about how the events surrounding Fukushima and these numerous criticalities can be avoided in the future. We have many many of these plants operating, in the U.S. and around the world.

"This must be an international effort," Tokuhiro emphasized again and again. He has come up with 20 Lessons Learned and states that an International Nuclear Cleanup Project must be undertaken in such a way the data and this experience help humanity to learn how to move forward. He asks where the leadership has been, where is the IAEA?

"We have an international effort to clean up Chernobyl. They just raised another 600 million or so". (25 years later and this is still needed).

I asked him about his own family in Tokyo and about Japanese culture in general regarding the lack of information. Akira replied that Japan is very centralized, Tokyo-centric and that these things seemed to be taking place very far away and that the people in Tokyo were not in shelters, evacuated perhaps forever from their homes. He told me about the diary he was reading online of one evacuee who had been a nuclear engineer working at Fukushima, who had been evacuated with his family. (It can be found in the original on the Japan Nuclear Industrial Forum here: www.jaif.or.jp). This man is an expert and he can be trusted to know what is going on and analyze the information.

He ended with the assertion that, "This is forcing the issue of what our energy portfolios for the next 15-20 years and longer will look like and what to do with all the nuclear waste. Politicians in an election year just want this to all go away".

The he asked, "If in the U.S. 20% of the energy is generated by nuclear, then can the U.S. economy right now afford a 20% slowdown?"

Fukushima differs from other nuclear reactors in that it uses a dirty fuel or MOX which is banned in many of the countries where nuclear power is a major energy source. My Swedish-Russian nuclear physicist friend is sending me links for reliable radioactivity readings and weather/wind patterns. We must remember some of what is posted on the internet are simulations, not actual readings. But he did add this:

The most terrifying fact is that the Japanese power plants are using 'dirty' fuel, which most countries have rejected and banned. Needless to say that the Americans built them. Since the Earth is moving Counterclockwise most of the fall-out will drop on U.S., unless very strong winds take it somewhere else.

In Sweden we have so far not measured increased levels of radiation. My only concern is what happened to the plutonium stored in the water tanks next to the reactor.

There are 23 reactors in the U.S. like the one in Fukushima. It takes a lot of money to build a reactor but then it becomes a money-maker once it is paid off and is run for as long as possible making as much profit as possible. This MUST become about our common future, and it does require an international effort. This is NOT a Wall Street bailout, this is much more serious and needs immediate attention and action. We MUST put the future of humanity and our planet before constant profits and crazy out of control capitalism.

A great deal of information has finally been coming out these past few days and if you need more information on the technical aspects of the core meltdowns and explanations which are updated fairly often, please follow Arnie Gunderson at www.fairewinds.com

I will update as I receive and am able to process all of this information and also include more links for very practical information with interpretations for laypeople outside this area to be able to use to make good choices.

Until then, take care, stay informed and be proactive with your information gathering. If there is one thing we have learned form this, it is that it is not going to be the mainstream media which will be taking the lead on getting this information out there. We must ask ourselves, "Why?"

Please follow me on twitter at: vivigive and be watching for our documentary coverage of the nuclear and economic events at: www.vigilante-vnm.com

osoab
20th May 2011, 07:21 PM
Seppuku time?

TEPCO Chief Resigns After $15 Billion Loss (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/20/tepco-chief-resigns-after_n_864593.html)


TOKYO (By Nathan Layne and Taiga Uranaka) - Tokyo Electric Power Co reported a $15 billion net loss on Friday to account for the disaster at its Fukushima nuclear plant, marking the biggest loss in Japan by a non-financial company and prompting the firm to warn its future was uncertain.

Much-criticized president, Masataka Shimizu, 66, resigned to take responsibility for the worst nuclear crisis since Chernobyl in 1986, making way for an insider, managing director Toshio Nishizawa, 60.

Engineers are battling to plug radiation leaks and bring the plant northeast of Tokyo under control more than two months after a 9.0 magnitude earthquake and deadly tsunami that devastated a swathe of Japan's coastline and tipped the economy into recession.

The disaster has triggered a drop of more than 80 percent in Tokyo Electric's share price and forced the company to seek government aid as it faces compensation liabilities that some analysts say could top $100 billion.

Before speaking, Shimizu bowed before a packed press conference at the company's headquarters in the capital. Nishizawa, who has worked at the utility since 1975, stood to his left.

"We feel sorry for the victims of the earthquake and tsunami. At the same time we want to sincerely apologize for our nuclear reactors in Fukushima causing so much anxiety, worry and trouble to society," the outgoing president said.

For the business year that ended March 31, the company, commonly known as Tepco, posted a 1.25 trillion yen ($15 billion) net loss after accounting for 1 trillion yen to scrap reactors at the Fukushima complex and write off tax assets.

The earnings figures were released after the close of Tokyo stock market trading and represent a landmark in the company's 60-year history.

Japan Prime Minister Naoto Kan and other lawmakers have lambasted Tepco for its handling of the disaster. At one stage, Kan reportedly demanded company executives tell him: "What the hell is going on?"

Shimizu did not make any public appearances in the two weeks that followed the March 11 disaster, sparking criticism Tepco lacked leadership as it fought to bring the plant under control.

Shortly after, he was hospitalized with dizzy spells as Tepco's share price plummeted and the company lurched close to collapse.

UNCERTAINTY AND RISK

Nishizawa takes over at a time when even the company admits there is major uncertainty over whether it can continue as a going concern.

Apart from compensation claims and quake tsunami damage, TEPCO expects other costs to include 700 billion yen this business year to buy more gas and coal to replace lost nuclear power capacity.

Since the crisis, Tepco has been supported by banks that offered emergency loans. The government has promised to help Tepco handle compensate claims by thousands of households and businesses forced to evacuate from around the
Fukushima plant because of radiation risks, although the issue is far from settled.

"I feel a massive weight of responsibility to assume the post when we are in an unprecedented crisis never experienced in the history of the company," said Nishizawa.

"But I decided to take it because I believe it is my mission to challenge head-on this difficult situation."
Tepco's five-year credit default swaps reached a record 762 basis points late on Thursday, or the equivalent of $762,000 to insure $10 million of debt against default.

The spreads have more than tripled since the government's chief spokesman Yukio Edano last week suggested banks waive some of Tepco's debt, raising concern the government may not support the company. Economics minister Kaoru Yosano said banks should not be liable.

"There are conflicting comments coming out of the government now," said Takashi Hiroki, chief strategist at Monex Inc.
Tepco though is the only power supplier to Tokyo and some surrounding areas that account for 40 percent of Japan's economy, so the government will be under pressure to keep the company afloat, analysts say.

The stricken Fukushima Daiichi makes up less than 5,000 megawatts (MW) of Tepco's overall generation capacity of 65,000 MW.

"You might as well recapitalize the thing that's there at the moment," said Ben Wedmore, director of equity research at MF Global FXA Securities. "I would think that by the end of June the debt-equity ratio would be such that there has to be some plan to recapitalize. Otherwise the debt would be junk level and the banks would be unable to lend."

Parliament is discussing the plan to help the utility handle compensation. Kan is battling low support ratings and a feisty opposition that has the power to block some legislation.

The compensation scheme would be funded with taxpayers' money and contributions from other nuclear plant operators, but it places no limit on Tepco's liabilities for compensation, a factor likely to hobble its finances for years and weigh on its credit rating.

"While a reconsideration of their corporate structure is important, the bigger pressure is how the government will structure their compensation scheme," said Hiroki Shibata, an analyst at Standard & Poor's Ratings. "I don't see any immediate impact from the change in presidents."

COMPENSATION

The 1.25 trillion-yen loss revealed Friday exceeds the 812 billion yen deficit booked by Japan's biggest telephone utility, Nippon Telegraph and Telephone, in the year to March 31, 2002, and the 795 billion yen loss by industrial conglomerate Hitachi Ltd two years ago.

Only banks have had bigger losses, with Mizuho Financial Group holding the record with a shortfall of 2.4 trillion yen eight years ago.

Faced with so much uncertainty, Tepco did not offer earnings guidance for the current year to March 2012.
Tepco has not made an estimate for the likely cost of compensating all victims. Analyst forecasts have ranged from around $25 billion up to $130 billion if the crisis at the nuclear complex drags on.

On Tuesday, TEPCO said it aimed to complete initial steps to limit the release of further radiation from the plant and to shut down its three unstable reactors by January 2012.

In a bid to raise cash, TEPCO said it planned to sell assets worth 600 billion yen.
The biggest gem in its asset portfolio is a 7.9 percent stake in KDDI, a telecommunications company that owns Japan's

No. 2 mobile phone network. The stake is worth 201 billion yen based on Thursday's closing price.
Other stock holdings in companies not directly involved in its generating business amount to little more. Tepco values all the stocks on its books at 310 billion yen.

Most of its investments however are locked up in its generating and transmission infrastructure, with 60 percent of 13 trillion yen in assets on its balance sheet accounted for by nuclear plants and other fixed assets.

Shares of Tepco closed up 2.5 percent at 376 yen, compared with a 0.1 percent fall in the benchmark Nikkei 225 index.
(Additional reporting by James Topham, writing by Tim Kelly; Editing by Chris Gallagher and Neil Fullick)

beefsteak
20th May 2011, 09:56 PM
Nuke Eng. Arnie Gunderson's delay with newest video has been explained in a 1PM EDT Tweet from Maggie Gunderson, Fairewind's founder and Arnie's wife, today, Friday 5/20/2011.



Fairewinds' video computer died. Kevin busy loading replacement w files. Video ASAP. Thanks for concern & support #japan nuclear 10 hours ago ·

beefsteak

beefsteak
20th May 2011, 10:51 PM
Researching Tokuhiro: (Like to know something about who I'm "listening to and why....")



[He] was born in Tokyo but now works in the Center for Advanced Energy Studies in Idaho Falls, Idaho.

https://inlportal.inl.gov/portal/server.pt?open=512&objID=281&mode=2

Akira has more than 20 years of experience in nuclear engineering and has been closely monitoring the situation in Japan following the devastating earthquake and tsunami.

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According to the Tokyo-born Akira Tokuhiro, in a U.I. press release, the situation in Japan is both dire and emblematic of that island’s reliance on energy. His concepts of sustainability and energy development are also telling of the dichotomy between the worlds of scientists who are proponents of nuclear energy and scientists who want research and development to go in completely different directions:

“Commercial nuclear energy is a highly-regulated global enterprise of industrialized nations. For Japan, a nation without energy resources, this is a painful decision; that is, to replace the power of some 50 nuclear plants by some other energy source. For the rest of the world and the global nuclear enterprise, this incident will delay and add cost to building new reactors. I thus see that we are inching our way toward higher energy prices and possible energy shortages as early as 2020-2030,” Tokuhiro said.


“As with fossil fuels, if we are not determined to construct new U.S. nuclear power plants in the near-term and for the foreseeable future, we will undermine our energy security and economic sustainability. Our only choice is to use much less energy and go back to the lifestyle of the '50s and '60s when life was not ‘open’ 24/7/365 days a year.”

================



Akira Tokuhiro, Ph.D.

http://www.if.uidaho.edu/~tokuhiro/assets/images/portrait.jpg

Associate Professor, Nuclear Engineering

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Degrees:

Ph.D., Nuclear Engineering, Purdue University, 1991.

M.S., Mechanical Engineering, University of Rochester, 1984.

B.S.E., Engineering Physics, Purdue University, 1981.


Years of Service:

First year of service at UI

Two years of service at KSU


Related Experience:
Assistant Professor, Dept. of Nuclear Engineering, University of
Missouri-Rolla (2000-2005) and
Director, University of Missouri-Rolla Reactor facility


Courses Taught:

Taught 3 different courses since 2005, including:

ME 573 Heat TransferI

NE 630 Nuclear Reactor Physics

NE 648 Nuclear Reactor Laboratory



At University of Missouri-Rolla

NE025 (UG) Introduction to Nuclear Technology Applications

NE206 (UG) Reactor Operations I

NE303 (UG) Reactor Physics

NE304 (UG) Reactor Laboratory I

NE306 (UG) Nuclear Reactor Operations

NE307 (UG) Nuclear Fuel Cycle

NE308 (UG) Reactor Laboratory II

NE423 (GR) Nuclear Reactor Safety



Teaching Experience:
Assistant Professor, Dept. of Nuclear Engineering, University of Missouri-Rolla (2000-2005)

Consulting and Patents:
Patent Filed, 2004, Gamma-Irradiation Activated Aerogels for Encapsulating Heavy Metals, M. Bertino (Applicant), A. Tokuhiro (5% credit) and others.


Principal Publications in Last Five Years:

C. M. Doudna, M. F. Bertino, A. T. Tokuhiro, Structural investigation of Ag-Pd clusters synthesized with the radiolysis method, Langmuir, 18, 2434, 2002.



A. Tokuhiro and M. Bertino, Radiation resistance testing of MOSFET and CMOS as a means of risk management, IEEE Transactions on Components and Packaging Technology: Open Forum, 25,
518, 2002.



E. P. Loewen and A. T. Tokuhiro, Status of Research and Development of the Pb-Alloy Cooled Fast Reactor, Atomic Energy Soc. Japan, J. Nucl. Sci. and Technol., Vol. 40, No. 8, August 2003.



A. Tokuhiro, B. Vaughn, Test Results of the Omron FaceKey Access Security System at the University of Missouri-Rolla Reactor (UMRR), Atomic Energy Soc. Japan, J. Nucl. Sci. and Technol., Vol. 41,
No. 4, April 2004.



J. F. Hund, M. F. Bertino, G. Zhang, C. Sotiriou-Leventis, N. Leventis, A. Tokuhiro, and J. Farmer, “Formation and Entrapment of Noble Metal Clusters in Silica Aerogel Monoliths by g-Radiolysis”, J. Phys. Chem. B 107, 465 (2003).



J. F. Hund, M. F. Bertino, G. Zhang, C. Sotiriou-Leventis, N. Leventis, A. Tokuhiro, and J. Farmer, “Synthesis of aerogel-metal cluster composites by gamma radiolysis”, Mater. Res. Soc. Symp. Proc. 740, I11.2 (2003).



C. M. Doudna, M. F. Bertino, F. D. Blum, A. T. Tokuhiro, D. Lahiri-Dey, S. Chattopadhyay, and J. Terry, “Synthesis of bimetallic nanoparticles with high aspect ratio”, Mater. Res. Soc. Symp. Proc.740,
I7.15 (2003).



C. M. Doudna, M. F. Bertino, F. D. Blum, A. T. Tokuhiro, D. Lahiri-Dey, S. Chattopadhyay, and J. Terry, “Radiolytic synthesis of bimetallic Ag-Pt nanoparticles with high aspect ratio”, J. Phys. Chem. B
107, 2966 (2003).



M. F. Bertino, J. F. Hund, G. Zhang, C. Sotiriou-Leventis, A. T. Tokuhiro, and N. Leventis, “Room Temperature Synthesis of Noble Metal Clusters in the Mesopores of Mechanically Strong Silica-Polymer Aerogel Composites”, J. Sol-Gel Sci. Technol. 30, 43 (2004).



S. K. Pillalamarri, Frank D. Blum, A. T. Tokuhiro, and M. F. Bertino, “Synthesis of polyaniline-silver nanocomposites using radiolysis”, Polymeric Materials: Science & Engineering 90, 264 (2004).



M. F. Bertino, J. F. Hund, J. Sosa, G. Zhang, C. Sotiriou-Leventis, N. Leventis, A. T. Tokuhiro, and J. Terry, “High resolution patterning of silica aerogels”, published as a letter in J. of Non-Cryst. Solids 333, 108 (2004).



J. Z. Shi, V. Pandit, T. P. Schuman, M. F. Bertino, and A. T. Tokuhiro, “Synthesis and characterization of titanium nanoclusters using gamma radiolysis in organic media”, Abstr. Pap. Am. Chem. Soc. 228, U781-U781 032-INOR Part 1 (2004).



N. Chennamsetty, G. K. Venayagamoorthy, A. Tokuhiro, Facial Expression Classification Using Learning Vector Quantization Networks, Intelligent Engineering Systems Through Artificial Neural Networks, Vol. 14, Smart Engineering System Design: Neural Networks, Fuzzy Logic, Evolutionary Programming, Complex Systems and Artificial Life, C.H. Dagli et al., Eds., ASME Press Series, New York, 2004, ISBN 0-7918-0228-0.



M. Buragohain, G. K. Venayagamoorthy, A. Tokuhiro, Development of an Autonomous Mobile Robot for Radiation Source Detection Using Neural Networks, Intelligent Engineering Systems Through Artificial Neural Networks, Vol. 14, Smart Engineering System Design: Neural Networks, Fuzzy Logic, Evolutionary Programming, Complex Systems and Artificial Life, C.H. Dagli et al., Eds., ASME Press Series, New York, 2004, ISBN 0-7918-0228-0.



M. F. Bertino, R. R. Gadipalli, J. G. Story, C. G. Williams, G. Zhang, C. Sotiriou-Leventis, A. T. Tokuhiro, S. Guha, and N. Leventis, “Laser Writing of Semiconductor Nanoparticles and Quantum Dots”, Appl. Phys. Lett. 85, 6007 (2004). The article was also published on “Virtual Journal of Nanoscale Science & Technology” (Dec. 20, 2004 issue), and was reviewed by “Micro/Nano Newsletter” (January 2005 issue), by “MRS Bulletin” (Feb. 2005 issue), and by “Nanotechwire.com” (http://nanotechwire.com/news.asp?nid=1385).



A. T. Tokuhiro and S. Vadakattu, Inspection for Surface Pitting Corrosion on a Nuclear Control Rod Surface using Machine Vision, Atomic Energy Soc. Japan, J. Nucl. Sci. and Technol., accepted, to appear, 2005.



D. Lahiri, Z. Zhang, S. Chattopadhyay, C. M. Doudna, T. Shibata, B. Mishra. A. T. Tokuhiro, J. Terry, D. Meisel, and B. A. Bunker, “XAFS investigation of core-shell and alloyed Pt/Ag and Pd/Ag nanoparticles”, J. Appl. Phys. 97, 094304 (2005).



D. Lahiri, S. Chattopadhyay, B.A. Bunker, C.M. Doudna, M.F. Bertino, F. D. Blum, A. T. Tokuhiro and J. Terry, “EXAFS studies of bimetallic Ag-Pt and Ag-Pd nanofibers”, Physica Scripta, T115, 776 (2005).



S. Pillalamarri, F. D. Blum, A. T. Tokuhiro, and M. F. Bertino, “Templateless Synthesis of Polyaniline Nanofibers”, Chem. Mater. (communication) 17, 227 (2005). The article was reviewed by “MRS Bulletin” (Mar. 2005 issue).



S. Pillalamarri, F. D. Blum, A. T. Tokuhiro, and M. F. Bertino, “One-pot synthesis of polyaniline-metal nanocomposites”, Chem. Mater., manuscript #cm050827y, accepted for publication, 2006.



A. Tokuhiro, H. No, M. Call and K. Hishida, Comparison of Near Wake-Flow Structure Behind A Solid Cap With an Attached Bubble and A Solid Counterpart, JSME Int. J., Ser. B, 49, 3, 2006.



Memberships:

American Society of Mechanical Engineers

American Nuclear Society

Young Generation Nuclear North America

Society of Women Engineers

Women in Nuclear



Honors and Awards:
Reviewer Honorarium, Department of Homeland Security, 2003

Most Improved Lab Instruction, UMR, School of Materials, Energy and Earth Resources, 2004



Institutional and Professional Service in Last Five Years:

University: University of Missouri System. Secured University of Missouri System partnership with the Shaw Group to pursue Idaho National Lab Maintenance and Operations contract


Department: (1) Alpha Sigma Nu – Nuclear Honorary, 2005-present, (2) Undergraduate Honor Program, MNE and CoE, 2006-present, (3) Reactor Safeguards Committee, 2005-present.

Professional:
Review papers and proposals for DOE Nuclear Energy Research Initiative,
Reactor Sharing,
Reactor Instrumentation,
Nuclear Engineering Education Research;
Homeland Security;
State Department, U.S. Civilian Research and Development Foundation;
ACS, Petroleum Research Fund;
NSF, Science and Technology Centers;
Canadian National Science & Engineering Research Council;
Journal of Nuclear Technology;
Canadian Journal of Physics;
Annals of Nuclear Energy;
Journal of Measurement Science & Technology;
Central European Physics Journal, International Journal of Heat & Mass Transfer;
Reviewer and Session Chair, International Conference on Nuclear Energy, ICONE-14, Miami, FL 2000;
Conference on Benchmarking of CFD Codes for Nuclear Reactor Safety, CFD4NRS, Munich, Germany, 2006;
Reviewer and Technical Committee, 4th International Symposium on Ultrasonic Doppler Velocimetry for Fluid Mechanics and Fluid Engineering, ISUD4.

Professional Development in Last Five Years:

Attended NSF-Sponsored Engineering Engineering Education, Bucknell University, 2003.

New Faculty Teaching Scholar, UMR, Class of 2003-2004.

On-Course Workshops on Enhancing Engineering Education, UMR, Center for Educational Research and Teaching Innovations, AY 2004-2005 Seminar series.

Other Notable Achievements in Last Five Years:

Major professor for 12 M.S. students at University of Missouri; 3 M.S. and 1 Ph.D. students currently at Kansas State University

Currently, PI or Co-PI of 2 research grants totaling about $400K

beefsteak
20th May 2011, 11:02 PM
Poking around some more in the archives of Idaho Statesman since this Tokuhiro PhD Nuke Eng. has popped up his head, I found the following:



INL sends experts to help Japan deal with damaged reactors
Submitted by Rocky Barker on Wed, 04/13/2011 - 10:00am.

"The INL is the home of the partially melted reactor core from the 1979 Three Mile Island Nuclear Reactor. Material scientists and engineers conducted tests and research on the melted core that have helped them better understand how the fuel reacts when it heats up.

Grossenbacher said a lot can be learned from the cores of the three reactors that melted down at Fukushima and the fuel pools that also saw still unexplained overheating. Then there are the effects of pouring salt water on the reactors to cool them down.

So would the INL consider having one of the cores shipped to Idaho?

“We have to be convinced the resource value is there,” Grossenbacher said."

Read more: http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2011/04/13/rockybarker/inl_sends_experts_help_japan_deal_with_damaged_rea ctors#ixzz1MxopuLP1


Boy, THAT ought to thrill 'em over there in Idaho. Just what America needs: 3 Core Samples of Fukushima brought to America for "study purposes...."

Has all common sense "left the building?"

beefsteak

lapis
21st May 2011, 10:44 AM
Thanks for digging that stuff up and posting it, beefsteak.

Serpo
21st May 2011, 02:37 PM
Fukushima's Apocalyptic Threat Demands Immediate Global Action
by Harvey Wasserman

Fukushima may be in an apocalyptic downward spiral.

Forget the corporate-induced media coma that says otherwise…or nothing at all. [Workers at the emergency headquarters of TEPCO's Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant (AFP/TEPCO)] Workers at the emergency headquarters of TEPCO's Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant (AFP/TEPCO)

Lethal radiation is spewing unabated. Emission levels could seriously escalate. There is no end in sight. The potential is many times worse than Chernobyl.

Containing this disaster may be beyond the abilities of Tokyo Electric or the Japanese government.

There is no reason to incur further unnecessary risk. With all needed resources, it's time for the world's best scientists and engineers to take charge.

Even then the outcome is unclear.

For a brief but terrifying overview, consult Dr. Chris Busby as interviewed by RT/TV.

Fukushima Units One, Two and Three are all in various stages of melting down.

Molten fuel at Unit One may have burned through its reactor pressure vessel, with water poured in to cool it merely pouring out the bottom.

A growing pond of highly radioactive liquid is softening the ground and draining into the ocean.

There is no way to predict where these molten masses of fuel will yet go.

Especially in the event of an aftershock, steam and hydrogen explosions could blow out what's left of the containments.

The extra plutonium in the MOX fuel at Unit Three is an added liability.

At least one spent fuel pool has been on fire.

The site has already suffered at least two hydrogen explosions. Some believe a fission explosion may also have occurred.

All have weakened the structures and support systems on site.

These shocks and the soft ground may be why Unit Four has partially sunk and is tipping, possibly on the brink of collapse. Even a relatively minor aftershock could mean catastrophe.

More explosions are possible. More leaks are virtually certain.

Escalated radiation levels from any one of the reactors could force all workers to evacuate, leaving the entire site to chance.

The New York Times has now reported that critical valve failures that contributed to the Fukushima disaster are likely at numerous US reactors.

Significant radioactive debris has been found thousands of yards from the plant. Radiation levels in Tokyo, nearly 200 miles away, have risen. Fallout has been detected in North America and throughout Europe.

Radiation pouring into the sea has begun to spread worldwide.

There is much more, none of it good.

Japan and Germany have had the good survival sense to abandon future reactor construction, and to shut some existing sites.

But here, the corporate media blackout is virtually complete. Out of sight, out of mind seems the strategy for an industry desperate for federal loan guarantees and continued operation of a rickety fleet of decaying old reactors.

The Obama Administration has ended radiation monitoring of seafood in the Pacific. It does not provide reliable, systematic radiological or medical data on fallout coming to the United States.

But we may all be in unprecedented danger.

A national movement is underway to end atomic give-aways and turn to a green-powered Earth.

Now we must also move ALL the world's governments beyond denial to focus on somehow bringing Fukushima under control.

After two months of all-out effort, four reactors and at least that many spent fuel pools remain at risk.

Our survival depends on stopping Fukushima from further irradiating us all.

The world community has come together to put a new sarcophagus around Chernobyl.

A parallel, more urgent effort now needs to focus on Fukushima.

Whatever technical, scientific and material resources are available to our species, that's what needs to go there.

NOW!!!
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/05/20-1

Serpo
21st May 2011, 02:42 PM
Japan's PM Kan Forced Chinese and Korean Counterparts to Eat Fukushima Vegetables and Fruits


It was not enough for Prime Minister Kan to make the Emperor and Empress of Japan visit Fukushima, have them eat Fukushima food and bring some back home as souvenirs for the imperial household that has small children (including the future emperor of Japan).

(In the photo, from the left: Fukushima Governor Sato, Japan's PM Kan, Korean President Li, and Chinese Premier Wen.)

Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao and Korean President Lee Myung-bak had to go along with Kan, visit Fukushima, and do the obligatory "It's so delicious it is safe" performance by eating cherries and cucumbers grown in Fukushima to counter "baseless rumors" that the food may be contaminated with radioactive materials. (Radiation is a rumor, and safety is a religion in Japan among TPTB, in case you haven't noticed.)

They are in Japan for the trilateral summit (which by itself irks a growing number of Japanese, but that will be another post).

From Asahi Shinbun (10:29PM JST 5/21/2011):

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/05/japans-pm-kan-forced-chinese-and-korean.html

beefsteak
21st May 2011, 03:37 PM
Thanks for digging that stuff up and posting it, beefsteak.


Hello, Lapis,
Thanks!

The more I think about the absurdity of Tokuhiro getting INL's Grossenbeck "bringing the Mountain (Fukushima melted core samples) to Mohammed" (Tokuhiro a Japanese Nuke Engineer living in USA), the more ludicrous this all seems. Surreal, actually.

Couldn't the PhD just "go back home, and help clean up the Fukushima mess and FAX the melted down core results he examines IN SITU" to University of Idaho/INL colleagues? That way, the chunk of MOX radiation stays where it belongs, and he goes back to where HE belongs, and no one else gets hurt even worse here in USA.

What the article is NOT saying is this: I suspected strongly, that the "samples" he and Grossenbeck are wanted are the MOX /dirty fuel plutonium core melting residues. You see, Idaho INL is lobbying for a PLUTONIUM RE-FURBISHING fuel site over where he currently teaches. If he wants to know so badly what happens when oceanic salt watre is poured onto melting MOX fuel, why doesn't he just construct an experiment behind leaded walls, in full gear. Does he have to put at risk an entire airplane, crew, and passengers, TSA, customs officials, courier and other automotive conveyances on the streets as the "truck" brings it from the airport to the INL lab for him to study?

Come to think of it, how did the 3MI melted core sample make it from Pennsylvania to Idaho? Homing Pigeons???

Talk about living in a box and wearing blinders at the same time, this takes the "cake"...yes, YELLOWCAKE!!!

beefsteak

Antonio
21st May 2011, 04:52 PM
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/05/1000-millisievertshr-debris-outside.html

1 sievert outside which is 100 roentgens, radiation sickness in 1 hr.

beefsteak
21st May 2011, 06:38 PM
Terrific Link, Antonio!!

I found this "radioactive Debris Field Map" poking around your link.

WOW! It is "enlargeable by clicking + magnifying glass icon on the page when moving cursor around.

I found it most interesting to study the REACTOR #3 debris field.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OHznJxief74/TdgPcO5IgKI/AAAAAAAABrI/pFz6lVlXnME/s400/TEPCOcontaminationmap5-21.JPG

Radiation Sickness in 1hr? When does death occur in this instance?

Heaven must have an express lane for the deceived, deluded duped and the brave who are still "working" this site. Makes ME sick just to think about this let alone in vivid color graphics at this link below...Measured from 5/12 thru to 5/19 at 7:30PM TOKYO time zone...

CLICKABLE/ENLARGEABLE:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OHznJxief74/TdgPcO5IgKI/AAAAAAAABrI/pFz6lVlXnME/s1600/TEPCOcontaminationmap5-21.JPG

gunDriller
21st May 2011, 07:02 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OHznJxief74/TdgPcO5IgKI/AAAAAAAABrI/pFz6lVlXnME/s400/TEPCOcontaminationmap5-21.JPG

is it possible to get a copy of the large map, but without the radiation readings, to see what the layout looks like ?

PatColo
21st May 2011, 07:57 PM
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/05/1000-millisievertshr-debris-outside.html

1 sievert outside which is 100 roentgens, radiation sickness in 1 hr.


I wonder if the global ZSM (that's "ZioStream Media", a new meme I'm trying to get going, plz propagate ZSM) manages the Fukushima depopulation Op's inevitable widespread radiation illness the same as they do the widespread chemical-poisoning illness from the Gulf Op (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/reporter-%27entire-communities-where-they%27re-vomiting-blood%27/): namely, see no evil, hear no evil, report no evil...

beefsteak
21st May 2011, 09:34 PM
Gunny,
after poking around on Serpo's link, I found this to be the LEAST annotated map, which while not exactly what you were hoping, may allow you to see more, okay? Adding to your closer examination, this is in PDF form, which will allow you to enlarge many magnification percentages over the prior heavily annotated image which was in .jpg form.

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/f1/images/f1-sv-20110323-e.pdf

beefsteak

gunDriller
22nd May 2011, 06:19 AM
Gunny,
after poking around on Serpo's link, I found this to be the LEAST annotated map, which while not exactly what you were hoping, may allow you to see more, okay? Adding to your closer examination, this is in PDF form, which will allow you to enlarge many magnification percentages over the prior heavily annotated image which was in .jpg form.

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/f1/images/f1-sv-20110323-e.pdf

beefsteak


thank you a MILLION.

have a nice silver pic -
http://www.spencermarks.com/assets/images/L0105_creamer_and_sugar.jpg

may a 1000 ounce bar fall from the sky ... but NOT hit you on the head.

is that a map of all the reactors ?

beefsteak
22nd May 2011, 08:18 AM
Y/W, Gunny,

It is my understanding the 4 blue boxes are F. reactors 1-4. 5 and 6 are not visible. Does that help?

Beautiful Silver tea service. Oh, and that 1000 Ag bar dropping from the sky? It missed my head allright, but my gouty big toe (left foot) wasn't so lucky......

beefsteak

beefsteak
22nd May 2011, 11:25 PM
Mainichi News posted following today: 5/22/2011


http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/images/20110521p2a00m0na018000p_size5.jpg
A photograph shows a whole-body counter. (Photo courtesy of the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency)



Nuclear plant workers suffer internal radiation exposure after visiting Fukushima

The government has discovered thousands of cases of workers at nuclear power plants outside Fukushima Prefecture suffering from internal exposure to radiation after they visited the Fukushima prefecture, the head of the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said.

Most of the workers who had internal exposure to radiation visited Fukushima after the nuclear crisis broke out following the March 11 quake and tsunami, and apparently inhaled radioactive substances scattered by hydrogen explosions at the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant.

The revelation has prompted local municipalities in Fukushima to consider checking residents' internal exposure to radiation.

Nobuaki Terasaka, head of the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, told the House of Representatives Budget Committee on May 16 that there were a total of 4,956 cases of workers suffering from internal exposure to radiation at nuclear power plants in the country excluding the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant, and 4,766 of them involved workers originally from Fukushima who had visited the prefecture after the nuclear crisis. Terasaka revealed the data in his response to a question from Mito Kakizawa, a lawmaker from Your Party.

The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said it received the data from power companies across the country that measured the workers' internal exposure to radiation with "whole-body counters" and recorded levels of 1,500 counts per minute (cpm) or higher. In 1,193 cases, workers had internal exposure to radiation of more than 10,000 cpm. Those workers had apparently returned to their homes near the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant or had moved to other nuclear power plants from the Fukushima No. 1 and 2 nuclear power plants.

According to Kakizawa, one worker at the Shika Nuclear Power Plant operated by Hokuriku Electric Power Co. in Ishikawa Prefecture returned to his home in Kawauchi, Fukushima Prefecture, on March 13 and stayed there for several hours. He then stayed in Koriyama in the prefecture with his family for one night before moving out of Fukushima. On March 23, he underwent a test at the Shika Nuclear Power Plant that showed his internal exposure to radiation had reached 5,000 cpm. He was thus instructed by the company to remain on standby. The radiation reading dropped below 1,500 cpm two days later, and then he returned to work.

Another male worker in his 40s told the Mainichi that he had waited at his home, about 30 kilometers from the crippled nuclear plant, following a hydrogen explosion at one of the troubled reactors. He later went through a test which showed his internal exposure to radiation had reached 2,500 cpm. "I think most of the radiation derives from iodine (which has a short half-life), and therefore the radiation reading is expected to drop. But I am worried," the man said.

The local government in Nihonmatsu, Fukushima Prefecture, has received inquiries about internal exposure to radiation from its citizens. In response, it is considering selecting infants and people working mainly outdoors and measuring their internal radiation exposure levels using whole-body counters, officials said.

Internal exposure to radiation lasts longer and carries more risks than external exposure. People are deemed to have had internal exposure if whole-body counters detect over 1,500 cpm of radiation from them. If more than 100,000 cpm of radiation is detected from body surfaces, decontamination is said to be necessary.

A special earthquake-resistant building that serves as a base for emergency workers at the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant had its doors strained by hydrogen explosions at the No. 1 and 3 reactors in March, making it easier for radioactive substances to come in. "We had meals there, so I think radioactive substances came into our bodies," a male worker in his 40s said. "We just drink beer and wash them down," he added.

A 34-year-old male worker, who entered the nuclear complex earlier in May, voiced concerns over the lack of a sufficient system to check internal exposure to radiation. "Most of the workers around me have not undergone checkups at all. Those in their 20s are particularly worried," he said.

Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO), the operator of the crippled Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant, is to check workers' internal exposure to radiation whenever deemed necessary, in addition to regular checks conducted every three months. But as of May 16, only about 1,400 workers have gone through checkups -- roughly 20 percent of the total number of workers. And only 40 of the workers have had their test results confirmed. The highest level of radiation to which a worker has been exposed so far is 240.8 millisieverts, and 39 millisieverts of radiation was from internal exposure.
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110521p2a00m0na021000c.html

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And the world is supposed to believe TEPCO's radiation readings becauuuuuuuuse......

beefsteak

beefsteak
22nd May 2011, 11:32 PM
This really STINKS! Can you imagine for a moment, building a new patio for one's backyard which you've been saving up to do for your family, and using some of these "cinder blocks?"



Tokyo high levels of radioactive material in sludge incinerator ash, Nippon TV News24, May 13, 2011:

Translation by EX-SKF

Nippon Television’s investigation has revealed that the radioactive materials in very high concentration, 170,000 becquerels per kilogram, had been found in the sewage slag from a sewage treatment facility in Tokyo. [...]

The samples taken at two additional facilities also showed radiation over 100,000 becquerels per kilogram. The slag has already been recycled into cement and other construction materials.

The national government issued a guidance on May 12 as to how to dispose the radioactive sludge and slag in Fukushima Prefecture, which is to burn the sludge and store the burned sludge (slag) in containers. However, there is no such standard for radioactive sewage treatment outside Fukushima Prefecture.

keehah
23rd May 2011, 01:20 AM
I'm no Doctor, but I wonder if one could soon get rich selling lung 'enema' treatments? ::)

Serpo
23rd May 2011, 12:14 PM
Arnie Gundersen explains how containment vents were added to the GE Mark 1 BWR as a "band aid" 20 years after the plants built in order to prevent an explosion of the notoriously weak Mark 1 containment system. Obviously the containment vent band aid fix did not work since all three units have lost containment integrity and are leaking radioactivity. Gundersen also discusses seismic design flaws, inadequate evacuation planning, and the taxpayer supported nuclear industry liability fund.http://vimeo.com/24112635

Serpo
23rd May 2011, 12:23 PM
[quote=beefsteak ]
This really STINKS! Can you imagine for a moment, building a new patio for one's backyard which you've been saving up to do for your family, and using some of these "cinder blocks?"

[quote]
The slag has already been recycled into cement and other construction materials.

It stinks alright and this is plain wrong......


http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/05/ministry-of-education-quietly-released.html


Ministry of Education Quietly Released WSPEEDI Simulation, It Shows Very High Organ Dose of Iodine-131 for Infants in Wide Area

beefsteak
23rd May 2011, 12:24 PM
This is customarily what is found in:
Green Clay according to Dr. Janet Starr-Hull, PhD, CN, and
a whole long list of other credentials.

Green clays contain:
Magnesium
Calcium
Potassium
Manganese
Phosphorous
Zinc
Silicon
Organic copper
Selenium
Organic cobalt
Micro-algae
Kelp
Phyto-nutrients

She also states:
Green clay alkalizes body pH.

French Green clay is extracted 250 feet under the surface of the Earth in quarries in France.

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I'm making a gigantic assumption here, but since the components aren't listed in alphabetical order, I'm thinking they are listed in "order of % of the whole." Not too sure how to check out that assumption, but I'll try writing to her and see what I learn. No promises she'll reply, of course, since she doesn't sell the stuff my wife uses as facial mask French Green Clay.

beefsteak

beefsteak
23rd May 2011, 12:49 PM
Serpo,
THANKS for posting that. I'm sitting here, stunned at the implications for an honest man in a "FAULT-RIDDEN" p/poor planning, hurry to make a buck, and then pass that same buck when TSHTF via leaks in containment, etc.

While Nuke Engineer and former Plant Operator (acc'd to Dr. Tokuhiro...the only persons we should be listening to as "expert testimony"...) Arnie Gunderson is telling it like it is, this squarely puts him in the "endangered species" category as a whistleblower.

It goes without saying, the REST of us are already a nucleated, endangered species thanks in large part to Nuclear Power Plant venting, among other ills and sins of commission and omission.

That was a MOUTHFUL of presentation.

BWR retro-fitted with vents, when containments should NOT be vented in the first place.
BWR with inadequate battery banks are just two of his points.

I'm sitting here musing:
"If computer battery power has improved multiple times over the last 10 years, have the nuke plants kept up with the battery technology available? 4 hours is a mighty short time to be told to grab one's important stuff and get away from an immediate meltdown BWR which has failed."

Wonder if any of the nuke industry guys which earlier posted on here would chime in and share their thoughts on this battery issue, without the sermonizing that accompanied their earlier gloating commentary...

How about it, guys? Saint and sinner...we're still glowing in this soup together....

beefsteak

Serpo
23rd May 2011, 12:55 PM
Thanks Beefsteak

clay link for info
http://www.eytonsearth.org/

So building one reactor is safer than building many together as when one goes up in smoke it makes it hard to work on the others......... :oo-->

Reactors in America insured to 10 Billion and then the tax payers have to cope it for the rest.

This whole industry shouldnt exsist, pity it does.

Serpo
23rd May 2011, 01:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/user/johnkhutchison1?feature=mhsn


long video and havnt watched it myself yet

SOLUTION to NUCLEAR DISASTER

please watch this
RARE interview with KEN SHOULDERS, Father of MicroElectronics.
Shoulders presented a paper to MIT in 2005 concerning elimination of radioactive particles using the Hutchison Effect.

video here:
youtube.com/​user/​johnkhutchison1?feature=mhsn

Shoulders has identified the Hutchison Effect as using EVOs (exotic vacuum objects).
EVOs TRANSMUTATE matter.
John Hutchison used this technology to transmutate polluted waters in the Gulf of Mexico back into "healthy water" (confirmed by independent scientific analysis).
Hutchison is NOW using his technology as a "shield" and reducing radiation... reducing to levels that, at times, there is no "background radiation". Video report to follow showing reductions of radiation.

An exact duplicate of Hutchison's lab is in Hiroshima. Numerous efforts have been made by Hutchison to contact the Teslar Company in Hiroshima (owner of the lab), so that the EVOs (Hutchison Effect) could be used in Japan. He has been unable to contact the owners of the lab. Hutchison even contacted the Japanese Consulate in Toronto, and was told, "Japan does not need assistance."

OPEN SOURCE TECHNOLOGY!!!

Hutchison has posted the schematic of all the equipment and the audio tones used to drive the RF here:

s1189.photobucket.com/​albums/​z428/​Nancy_Lazaryan/​?action=view&current=SCHEMATICphaseshiftTWO.jpg

s1189.photobucket.com/​albums/​z428/​Nancy_Lazaryan/​?action=view&current=SCHEMATICcont.jpg

youtube.com/​user/​johnkhutchison1?feature=mhsn#p/​search/​1/​d-ubCyxDRXo

Hutchison has asked computer experts to create a "virtual lab" from the schematics, so that anyone can use the technology to protect their homes.

Hutchison has asked that Ham Radio, CB and Telsa Coil Operators pick up the radio frequencies and BOUNCE them, and that people put rebar around their houses (6ft tall, one foot in the ground, NSEW).

If people WANT a SOLUTION, then they will need to help.

If there are any scientists, ham cb or tesla coil operators, and/or computer experts that will help, have them contact me.

Nancy Lazaryan..email: nancylazaryan@yahoo.com

beefsteak
23rd May 2011, 04:07 PM
Confession time, or is it confusion time.

EHV herpes virus, a highly contagious, airborne equine virus outbreak in Utah 2 weeks ago, has rodeo crowd/state-fair, highschool roping events, etc., BEING CANCELLED.

34 confirmed cases in 9 states. And RODEOS are cancelled.

Yet, Fukushima continues to spew death, and people keep sending their children to local highschools within 30km of Dai-ichi?

What on earth is it going to take to right the priorities gyroscopes? The mind staggers...

beefsteak
23rd May 2011, 11:22 PM
US Researcher gives TEPCO a "reality check"



Fukushima reactor had meltdown 3.5 hours after cooling system collapsed: U.S. researcher
(Mainichi Japan) May 23, 2011


A meltdown occurred at one of the reactors at the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant three and a half hours after its cooling system started malfunctioning, according to the result of a simulation using "severe accident" analyzing software developed by the Idaho National Laboratory.

Chris Allison, who had actually developed the analysis and simulation software, reported the result to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in late March. It was only May 15 when Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) admitted for the first time that a meltdown had occurred at the No. 1 reactor at the Fukushima nuclear plant.

According to Allison's report obtained by the Mainichi, the simulation was based on basic data on light-water nuclear reactors at the Laguna Verde Nuclear Power Plant in Mexico that are about the same size as that of the No. 1, 2, and 3 reactors in Fukushima.

According to the simulation, the reactor core started melting:
* about 50 minutes after the emergency core cooling system of the No. 1 reactor stopped functioning
* and the injection of water into the reactor pressure vessel came to a halt.
* About an hour and 20 minutes later, the control rod and pipes used to gauge neutrons started melting and falling onto the bottom of the pressure vessel.
* After about three hours and 20 minutes, most of the melted fuel had piled up on the bottom of the pressure vessel.
*At the four hour and 20 minute mark, the temperature of the bottom of the pressure vessel had risen to 1,642 degrees Celsius, close to the melting point for the stainless steel lining, probably damaging the pressure vessel.

TEPCO, the operator of the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant, had tried to fill the containment vessel of the No. 1 reactor with water, but it decided to abandon the plan after it discovered that a meltdown had occurred at the reactor.

Masanori Naito, director in charge of safety analysis at the Institute of Applied Energy, said, "TEPCO could have conducted similar analysis at an early stage and assumed the meltdown had occurred. TEPCO should have prepared other cooling methods besides the method of filling the reactor with water."
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110523p2a00m0na019000c.html
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Thanks to Keehah's posting on page 52, here's May 15th's TEPCO "version" buried in the 2900 pages of "documentation/discovery"



Rapid meltdown in No.1 reactor

Tokyo Electric Power Company, the operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, says most of the fuel rods in the No.1 reactor had dropped to the bottom of the pressure vessel within 16 hours of the earthquake on March 11th.

The utility revealed its study on the subject on Sunday.

TEPCO said it analyzed the data and calculated a timeline for the developments in the No. 1 reactor on the assumption that the reactor lost its cooling system as soon as it was hit by the tsunami.

The firm said that within about 3 hours after the reactor automatically shut down, the cooling water had evaporated to a level at the top of the rods.

In the next hour and a half, parts of the fuel rods are believed to have begun melting.

The temperature of the fuel rods is believed to have reached 2,800 degrees Celsius at this stage, and the meltdown advanced rapidly.

Almost of all the fuel rods melted and dropped to the bottom of the pressure vessel by 6:50 am on March 12th.

TEPCO said the temperature dropped after water was poured into the reactor starting at 5:50 am on the same day.

The firm says the melted rods created small holes on the bottom of the vessel, but that no major problems are developing there. It believes that the amount of radioactive substances that could spread from the reactor will be limited.

Sunday, May 15, 2011 23:29 +0900 (JST)
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Simulation, eh?

Proof all the water then and now is (was?) nothing but "theatre" for the world stage. And for what purpose? Appears to be the poisoning of the Pacific? To tick off the Russians? To extort a Chinese Cement Pumper Donation to Fukushima, "gratis..."

One might ask, why is this important to discuss now? What difference does learning of this simulation, the results thereof, and flushing/fleshing out the timeline mean to GS-USers?

beefsteak

Serpo
24th May 2011, 03:04 AM
The mutations begin...................and you know how fast rabbits can breed...................


Japan nuclear radiation leak gives birth to earless bunny? (VIDEO), International Business Times, May 23, 2011:

An earless bunny was born near Japan’s Fukushima nuclear power plant, giving rise to fears that nuclear radiation leak is worse than expected and deformed human babies may be next in the list.

A Youtube video clip was posted by a member with the ID “yuunosato” titled, ‘Earless Bunny Born After Tokyo Electric Power Company Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant Accident.’

The translated description of the clip reads:

“After the nuclear accident, government and the media said there was no immediate effect on the health. But in the town of Namie Tsushima, which is outside the 30 kilometer area or outside the mandatory evacuation zone, it happened. [...]“
http://enenews.com/ibt-japan-nuclear-radiation-leak-gives-birth-to-earless-bunny-video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVY9azhH3U&feature=player_embedded

gunDriller
24th May 2011, 06:56 AM
The mutations begin...................and you know how fast rabbits can breed...................


[color=teal]Japan nuclear radiation leak gives birth to earless bunny? (VIDEO), International Business Times, May 23, 2011:

An earless bunny was born near Japan’s Fukushima nuclear power plant, giving rise to fears that nuclear radiation leak is worse than expected and deformed human babies may be next in the list.


well, look at the bright side.

at least we don't have to worry about Killer Rabbits. :sarc:

not with Fukushima happening !

osoab
24th May 2011, 09:27 AM
I have seen this site posted a few times at a few other sites.

If you do the google translate, you will get English.

Anyway, the site shows the radiation level at #1 reactor at or near 200 Sv/h. It has been running there for about 3 days.

http://atmc.jp/plant/rad/

Oddly enough #4 is not listed.

sirgonzo420
24th May 2011, 10:25 AM
Here's a handy-dandy chart:

http://www.canadafreepress.com/images/uploads/radiation.png



Note that the dose for 10 minutes next to the Chernobyl reactor after explosion and meltdown is 50 Sv.


That's 300 Sieverts per hour.

Compare to readings from Fukushima #1 at 200 Sieverts per hour.



edit: the image was too big to post and still be readable.

Here's the link: http://www.canadafreepress.com/images/uploads/radiation.png

oldmansmith
24th May 2011, 02:12 PM
Yahoo did have a report today saying that three of the reactors were partially melted down...then it was gone right away.

beefsteak
24th May 2011, 03:18 PM
Totally believe you, oldmansmith.

If one ever needed "proof"--not that GS-USers do--that the MSM doesn't really believe in freedom of the press and the people's right to information--which of course is power--...that yahoo yanking should prove that right away!

beefsteak

beefsteak
24th May 2011, 03:20 PM
sirgonzo420,
after reading several things Antonio has so generously posted on here, one can't help but wonder if the Chernobyl 50sevr per 10 min was the "official" which was revised later, you know?

Maybe, Antonio has some words of update for us. Hope he's still here.

beefsteak

Serpo
24th May 2011, 03:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR_BMAbYQkY

Large Sarge
24th May 2011, 04:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR_BMAbYQkY


I am not of the opinion that this reactor meltdown is "unstoppable"

Antonio
24th May 2011, 04:25 PM
200 sv/hr is 20000 roentgen/hr. Such readings can be found only in close proximity to nuke fuel and are immediately lethal, the lethal dose is about 500 roentgen. This is what was on the roof of Chernobyl and people worked there in lead suits for about 30-40 seconds each.

sirgonzo420
24th May 2011, 04:30 PM
sirgonzo420,
after reading several things Antonio has so generously posted on here, one can't help but wonder if the Chernobyl 50sevr per 10 min was the "official" which was revised later, you know?

Maybe, Antonio has some words of update for us. Hope he's still here.

beefsteak


I wonder the same. I have no idea how accurate the "official" sources are. The chart I posted also has a bit of a disclaimer at the bottom.

All things considered, I still find the chart to be a decent display of rudimentary radiation dose comparisons.

sirgonzo420
24th May 2011, 04:37 PM
200 sv/hr is 20000 roentgen/hr. Such readings can be found only in close proximity to nuke fuel and are immediately lethal, the lethal dose is about 500 roentgen. This is what was on the roof of Chernobyl and people worked there in lead suits for about 30-40 seconds each.



Yes, 200 Sv/h is waaay beyond the limit for mortal men.

I mean fuck, I don't think robots can even handle radiation like that.

Large Sarge
24th May 2011, 04:46 PM
if they were giving these workers either liposomal vitamin C or intravenous vitamin C (before and after each shift)

the effects would be minimal

and I respect antonio for his knowledge on this topic.

current "lethal doses" are for people that are not megadosing vitamin C

Dr. Klenner claimed if the vitamin C levels were high enough, no radiation damage would occur at all.....

they could take a small army of folks, megadose them on vitamin c, put them in protective gear/vehicles, and clean that mess up pronto.

I am serious about the vitamin C

it will protect you

Antonio
24th May 2011, 04:47 PM
200 sv/hr is 20000 roentgen/hr. Such readings can be found only in close proximity to nuke fuel and are immediately lethal, the lethal dose is about 500 roentgen. This is what was on the roof of Chernobyl and people worked there in lead suits for about 30-40 seconds each.



Yes, 200 Sv/h is waaay beyond the limit for mortal men.

I mean fuck, I don't think robots can even handle radiation like that.


Exactly. The robots on the Chernobyl roof burned out at these levels, only "biorobots" could work there. If this is true then nobody can approach Fukushima reactors to do any meaningful thing. They have to build an underground cooling system and then bury the thing in lead and concrete, seems like it`s not feasible with several reactors melting.

Large Sarge
24th May 2011, 04:53 PM
going to have to build a wall in the pacific, limit the ocean leaving, and then seal the top

no perfect solution

but the pacific ocean is HUGE, and so limiting the leakage, is about the best you can do.....

beefsteak
24th May 2011, 07:37 PM
<img>Celente/Rense video here </image removed>


I am not of the opinion that this reactor meltdown is "unstoppable"

Hello, Large Sarge,

Please share more of your thoughts. I'm sure they are well thought out and you spent time constructing them.

Don't keep us in suspense, okay?

beefsteak

Serpo
24th May 2011, 07:38 PM
These problems are huge and its all up to Tepco to fix so it seems.

They caused the disaster in the first place so how good are they at fixing the worlds worst calamity.

How much is it going to cost and who is paying ect

Serpo
24th May 2011, 07:40 PM
going to have to build a wall in the pacific, limit the ocean leaving, and then seal the top

no perfect solution

but the pacific ocean is HUGE, and so limiting the leakage, is about the best you can do.....




What about the Russian nuclear processing ship they could use for the water.Nothing seemed to come of that.

Serpo
24th May 2011, 07:44 PM
200 sv/hr is 20000 roentgen/hr. Such readings can be found only in close proximity to nuke fuel and are immediately lethal, the lethal dose is about 500 roentgen. This is what was on the roof of Chernobyl and people worked there in lead suits for about 30-40 seconds each.



Yes, 200 Sv/h is waaay beyond the limit for mortal men.

I mean fuck, I don't think robots can even handle radiation like that.


Exactly. The robots on the Chernobyl roof burned out at these levels, only "biorobots" could work there. If this is true then nobody can approach Fukushima reactors to do any meaningful thing. They have to build an underground cooling system and then bury the thing in lead and concrete, seems like it`s not feasible with several reactors melting.


The reason not to build more than one reactor in one place,if they both go down it makes it very difficult.Here we have 6 reactors.

In India they are protesting about building 10 in one place,they seem to be back tracking on that idea.

ximmy
24th May 2011, 07:57 PM
<img>Celente/Rense video here </image removed>


I am not of the opinion that this reactor meltdown is "unstoppable"

Hello, Large Sarge,

Please share more of your thoughts. I'm sure they are well thought out and you spent time constructing them.

Don't keep us in suspense, okay?

beefsteak


BTW beefsteak & others, thanks for continually updating this thread, some of us read it every day.
ximmy

beefsteak
24th May 2011, 08:32 PM
ximmy,
there is indeed incredible sharing of lay expertise, surfing skills, and thoughtful responses on this thread.
Being nuked 10x over lethal level in one "earthquake" has a tendency to bring out the best in the best, who naturally hang out on GS-US. We gotta help ourselves in this one, you know? "TPTB" could care less than less.

for myself, I'll just say thanks to saying something!
beefsteak

Antonio
24th May 2011, 08:42 PM
I`d like to know what is the worst possible outcome? Nobody so far says what it is. Can scientists predict what awaits us if Fukushima is allowed to progress? I`m sure some scientists must be thinking about this, they are not saying anything because it has to be too awful to contemplate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pauUXRX70D8

Large Sarge
25th May 2011, 02:00 AM
apprently this cold fusion device (running on nickel), is real


http://pesn.com/2011/05/17/9501827_Ampenergo_Amps_Up_Rossis_Energy_Catalyzer_ in_America/

why are they building any nuclear plants?



Ampenergo Amps Up Rossi's Energy Catalyzer in America
An American company named Ampenergo has made a deal with Andrea Rossi to market his Energy Catalyzer (E-Cat) technology in the Americas. Ampenergo, which has ties to people in the U.S. DOD and DOE, will share royalties with Rossi, and are in the middle of talks with multiple potential customers.


Screenshot of the Energy Catalyzer as seen in the video The Magic of Mr. Rossi.




by Hank Mills

The saga of Andrea Rossi's cold fusion technology (called the Energy Catalyzer or E-Cat) continues to accelerate. His game changing technology consumes tiny quantities of nickel and hydrogen to produce huge quantities of clean, safe, and cheap energy. Unlike conventional fission based nuclear power, no radioactive materials are used and no nuclear waste is produced. Multiple companies are now positioning themselves to market the E-Cat, both in Europe and the Americas. One of these companies is Defkalion Green Technologies which is based in Greece. Another is company is Ampenergo, which is located in the United States.

Defkalion Green Technologies has acquired a license to manufacture, distribute, and market the E-Cat in all areas of the world except the Americas. It has recently been announced that another company named Ampenergo, has made a deal with Andrea Rossi (through his company Leonardo Corporation) to market and develop the technology in North and South America. Ampenergo has paid Andrea Rossi for these rights (an undisclosed amount), and in return they will receive a share of all royalties from the sale of E-Cat licenses and products in the Americas.

In this latest deal, there seems to be three companies involved. First, there is Leonardo Technologies Inc. (LTI) of Bedford New Hampshire, that was co-founded by Rossi. He sold his interest in the company over ten years ago, and has apparently used the proceeds to develop his cold fusion technology. It appears he has stayed in contact with the company since that time, and has worked with them to develop the technology. After selling his stake in LTI, Rossi started his own company named, "Leonardo Corporation." This company has a manufacturing plant in Miami, Florida that is producing the E-Cat modules. In 2009, LTI branched off to create Ampenergo which is located in the USA as well.

Ampenergo was founded by Karl Norwood, Richard Noceti, Robert Gentile and Craig Cassarino. It is important to note that Robert Gentile was the Assistant Secretary of Energy for Fossil Energy at the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) during the early 1990's. This helps confirm Rossi's claim that tests of the E-Cat have been observed by the U.S. Department of Defense and the DOE. It is very likely that at least certain individuals in the DOD and DOE are aware and interested in the Energy Catalyzer. However, their silence is deafening.

It is unknown if any military or secret government research is taking place, but there are unsubstantiated rumors floating around the internet of the US Navy using a nickel-hydrogen cold fusion reactor to power a submarine. Although the rumor is not likely to be true, if they have known about the technology for a couple of years, it is possible testing is taking place. Trillions of dollars go missing from the DOD budget on a regular basis, and the money is obviously being spent on something.


Interview with NyTeknik

In an interview with the Swedish website NyTeknik, Craig Cassarino of Ampenergo disclosed several interesting tidbits of information about the deal, his company, and their plans for the technology. Importantly, it is clear that Ampenergo is very impressed with Rossi's technology. Craig claims that his company witnessed three demonstrations in the USA, and at least one in Bologna, Italy. They do not fully understand the exact reactions taking place, but are certain that the E-Cat technology works.

Craig also claims they are in talks with multiple companies in North and South America. Some companies are very skeptical about the technology, but others are more open. The companies they are talking with have many potential applications for the technology. One company they contacted considers the technology as a high power density fuel. This would be correct, because the reaction chamber for a 2.5 kW output is about the size of an adult fist, and with this technology one hundred grams of nickel powder can replace many barrels of oil. In addition, the fuel would be very cheap. Andrea Rossi has recently stated that a recharge that would power a unit for six months would only cost approximately $100 dollars. To produce the same amount of energy from oil would cost thousands of dollars. Most likely, the cost for the fuel would eventually be much lower than $100 dollars for 100 grams (the quantity that can power a reactor for six months). The $100 dollar figure probably does not factor in cost savings that would take place when mass production of the powder starts, and of course the company would be making a profit off the powder.

During the interview, space travel is mentioned as a potential application of the technology. We know that NASA is among those showing interesting the E-Cat. My hope is that the energy produced by the E-Cat would not be used to power a nuclear rocket, but to power something truly exotic. For example, could the E-Cat produce enough electricity to power an electrogravitic craft such as those suggested by Townsend Brown?

It seems that the race is on to commercialize the E-Cat. Defkalion and Ampenergo seem to be leading the way. Of course most of the dumbstream media is remaining silent of this race towards the commercialization of cold fusion technology. As of right now, the best sources for news and information are from alternative news sites such as PESN. I expect this to be the case even after CBS, FOX, ABC, NBC, and MSNBC start covering the technology. By staying alert and keeping an open mind, we have a huge head start!


More Info from Rossi's Blog

Andrea Rossi frequently posts responses to questions on his blog at the Journal of Nuclear Physics. He has been revealing many interesting tidbits of information. However, he still declines to disclose information about the catalyst used.

One piece of information he has revealed is that all 330 E-Cat modules for the one megawatt plant in Xanthi, Greece have been manufactured and are being tested. In previous posts, he indicated that testing consists of modules being in continuous operation. Basically, this means that the one megawatt plant is running right now, but just not in Greece yet. Also, the enclosure for the one megawatt plant is being designed. It is relatively small, being only 3 x 3 x 2 meters and weighing only 2 tons.

A few additional bits of information from his blog...

* Rossi has began using the term "new fire" to describe his technology.

* An E-Cat can be throttled down to a lower power level in approximately one minute.

* He is using the term E-Tiger to describe the one megawatt plant.

* He has stated that it is possible a one megawatt plant will be opened in the USA by November.

* In private testing, the temperature inside of the reactor can reach 1,600 C which is hot enough to melt the nickel powder (probably not desirable).

* E-Cats will be sold to the public by the end of this year.


More Test Results on the Way

It has been rumored on the Vortex L discussion list (one of the best sources for cold fusion information on the web) that the University of Bologna is about to disclose additional test results from the E-Cat. As we have mentioned here at PESN, the University of Bologna is in the middle of a one year research program on the technology. Most likely, the data they release will be from extended tests of E-Cat units. Already, all chemical energy sources have been ruled out, and nuclear energy is the only possible source of the excess heat. For example, one test had an E-Cat running for 18 hours producing a constant output of around 15 kilowatts with an average input of only 80 watts. Maybe they have had a similar test running for weeks or months!

Another rumor on Vortex-L indicates that the Swedish scientists (one of which was the former president of the Swedish Skeptics Society) who tested the E-Cat earlier in the year, have submitted a paper about an additional test of the E-Cat to a peer reviewed journal. Apparently, they are waiting on it to be published before sharing the results of that test.

Rossi has also stated that the University of Uppsala in Sweden will receive an E-Cat unit for testing. It will be interesting to see what results they get from the E-Cat. Every test of the E-Cat so far has been a success, so there is little reason to think their testing will yield different results.


Catalyst Patent Application

Andrea Rossi's technology produces huge amounts of energy due to an undisclosed catalyst that is composed of two elements that are not radioactive and are not precious metals. He has filed a patent application covering this catalyst. Although a patent covering his reactor design has been published (and granted in Italy), it does not disclose the catalyst. It has been speculated that the patent application for the catalyst is about to be published. This may or may not be the case, because there are ways to prevent a patent application being published before the patent is granted. For example, making many changes to the patent application delays it being published. No one knows if Rossi is taking such steps to prevent his secret from being revealed.

If the catalyst is revealed, it would allow replicators to test the technology themselves. Although individuals would not be able to sell units for a profit, I do not see anything stopping individuals from building units for home use. Although this might be dangerous due to the small amount of gamma rays produced by the device (that can be shielded with 2cm of lead and a layer of boron) and nano-nickel powder being slightly toxic, the technology is so simple, I doubt anyone could prevent such replication attempts from being made.

The saga of the Energy Catalyzer continues to accelerate. The end of this year could be very exciting.

As more information about this ongoing saga is obtained, it will be reported on here at PESN. We have also registered the domain name http://RossiColdFusion.com to forward to our feature page at PESWiki, and we have a news page dedicated to the coverage of this topic. Remember that PESWiki is publicly editable, so if you know of significant coverage we've not included, you are free to add a link to it. Our Help page gives instructions for those not familiar with wiki syntax.

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gunDriller
25th May 2011, 07:15 AM
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/05/1000-millisievertshr-debris-outside.html

1 sievert outside which is 100 roentgens, radiation sickness in 1 hr.


I wonder if the global ZSM (that's "ZioStream Media", a new meme I'm trying to get going, plz propagate ZSM) manages the Fukushima depopulation Op's inevitable widespread radiation illness the same as they do the widespread chemical-poisoning illness from the Gulf Op (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/reporter-%27entire-communities-where-they%27re-vomiting-blood%27/): namely, see no evil, hear no evil, report no evil...


better register the domain name "Ziostream.com", the Talmud-worshippers might steal your idea.

but - if i use that term around some family members they will just say "Zi-what ?", and another ugly conversation will follow.

but one of my brothers did admit that the Repubs. & the Dem's. are virtually identical. PROGRESS !!! ;D




The reason not to build more than one reactor in one place,if they both go down it makes it very difficult.Here we have 6 reactors.

In India they are protesting about building 10 in one place,they seem to be back tracking on that idea.


India has some beaches where the sand has a very high Thorium content. not the 6 ppm stuff that is normal, they have much higher concentrations.

but - India is building their nuclear program ... so they need uranium reactors for that.




I`d like to know what is the worst possible outcome? Nobody so far says what it is. Can scientists predict what awaits us if Fukushima is allowed to progress?

we know that Plutonium has been found in soils about 50 km away from Fukushima.

i would say we already have part of a worst outcome - that the Plutonium made it high enough to "go global".

it's not like little microgram particles of Plutonium respect borders. they're not Japanese, they don't say, "i'm staying in the land of the Rising Sun !"


as far as predicting, the problem is getting reliable information. it comes out in fits and starts, then 2 months later they admit, "oh, we lied. there was a meltdown within 24 hours of the tsunami."

we know they are using water to cool the 6 reactors and the containment pools.

we know that there are holes in the reactor vessels, that is, the concrete is cracked and has been breached.

instead of having a "closed loop" cooling system, where radioactive water is sent to a holding pond to cool off, then re-used, they use new water.

the way they're doing it, every day they radiate another few million gallons of seawater.

they've been doing that for about 2 months now.

at the rate they're going, they will radiate 1 billion gallons after a year.


i think to get more answers, you would have to be "on the inside", working on the clean-up.

Serpo
25th May 2011, 06:58 PM
Yes the cold fusion device is showing a lot of promise, LS.

Hopefully this E- CAT isnt a DOG :D

beefsteak
25th May 2011, 10:13 PM
This TEPCO managed news/PR campaign all is well in Fukuland schtick seems to belching big centimeter holes in its news cycle every bit as large and documentable as the reactors as spewing deadly radioactivity around the plant, the nation, into the ocean and air, and around the globe.

It appears the news/info cycle has moved from
3/11's 24hr coverage for 7 days post 3/11,
to quarantine,
to drones and leaked photos,
to staged, tomato-gulping, PR stunts,
to now 2,900 pages, "official" TEPCO documents/data dump
to more horror stories tonight than one can even list from the various reliable sources, such as ENews, NHK, and Reuters Africa or wherever.....

And let's not forget the cute, earless, white mutant F. bunny which miraculously appeared on YouTube ystdy and got picked up by we earth inhabitants in order to voyeuristically view its cottonball tail accompanied by horrid museum exhibits of mutant Chernobyl animals (1 shown currently) and adorable 6 legged black and white puppy dogs and deer fawns in other mostly unspecified locations in WIKIpedia.......

Tonight, there are stories of multiple (puncture) holes 7cm to 10cm in diameter in the sides--top, bottom, left, right makes no difference--leaking radiation. There are staggering sievert readings crowding headlines. There are insider reports of various "efforts" to control and scrub contaminated air, and boron being poured down the gullets of Hawaiian cattle.

This is confusing...possibly the understatement of the month.

Is saturation to dirth to overload a deliberate pattern to perpetrate upon the people of the planet? The only thing I can think of is that it is time to shake down the world for a transfer of wealth to the far east in an obvious sympathy campaign. Why else show bunnies, puppies, and fawns unless it is to set up a purse-string tuggin'/wallet-wringing out campaign from the poisoned ones.

This one wonders.

And once again, the cyclic responsive human nature returns to who what when where and why, to get one's arms around this current, staggeringly overdone data dump.

The two or three people worth re-listening to and ferreting out for trusted info, updates, and comprehensible responsiveness are the Dr. Blaylocks, Dr. Sajis, Eng. Gundersons/Tokuhiros, and Shimatsus....

Thank GOD for the alternative news media outlets who are in touch with real people and not the TEPCO, Japanese Govt, GE, USDA, EPA, FEMA, DHS zombies.

beefsteak

beefsteak
25th May 2011, 11:40 PM
Day 58, May 8, 2011...most recent RELEASED Dr. Saji's blog to worldwide industry peers: wrt ventilation efforts:



I. Recapping on a temporary ventilation system in 1F1.

After successfully installing a temporary ventilation system two days ago [May 6, 2011 JST], and observing the decrease in aerosol density, there is a growing hope that worker should be able to get inside of the Reactor Building to start plumbing work for installation of external air coolers for decay heat removal.

At 8:08 PM, TEPCO opened the personnel double door between the reactor building and the turbine hall, while keeping the temporary tent room with the ventilation system working. After 8 more hours of filtering the air, they will remove the tent to have workers get inside the Reactor Building with full covered masks without using air breathing apparatus.

The removal of the tent may induce some effluent release to the environment, however, their safety assessment is said to be confirmed the safety.

A video of the installation of a temporary ventilation system can be observed in the following website: CLICK HERE (http://video.mainichi.co.jp/viewvideo.jspx?Movie=48227968/48227968peevee388167.flv?inb=yt)

Note that the radiation monitor is showing 0.2-0.3 mSv/h in the video.

Balance of Saji's most recently released report: His bullet points 2 through 4:



II. 1F4 pool water video

TEPCO also released another video of 1F4 pool water situation. The pool water temperature is as high as 80 degree-C. http://video.mainichi.co.jp/viewvideo.jspx?Movie=48227968/48227968peevee388169.flv

It is very interesting to see bubbles started to come out at this temperature. Although it is explained that the bubbles are steam bubbles, for me they are obviously hydrogen bubbles. The pool water seems to have been saturated with hydrogen gas generated through water radiolysis and started to release the excess hydrogen gas.



III. Recapping on the accident scenario by referring to the SPEEDI results

On May 5, as Earthquake(55), I introduced the results of correlation of the major events with the results of SPEEDI calculation. I tried to check my assessment by trying to correlate the dose rate measurements made by a temporary environmental monitoring data release by TEPCO. Due to the station blackout, all of their environmental monitoring stations were dead during the early phase of the accident. TEPCO quickly put a portable survey meter at the front entrance, supplemented by data taken by a monitoring car. Unfortunately, available data are very limited in the first few days. TEPCO has been releasing these data every day.

Attached please find a graphical representation of these monitoring data, displayed daily from March 12 to 15. On the March 12, only two monitoring locations were available. The results were rather disappointing. Although a few large releases are recorded everyday, they are not directly correlated with the reported major events, such as initiation of containment venting, hydrogen explosion, etc. I am puzzled with the results. There can be several reasons:

(1) The radiation monitors may not be catching the events since it may also depend on the wind direction.

(2) Spontaneous venting may have preceded before initiation of the manual venting.

(3) The hydrogen explosion shot the effluent up to the sky, without so much of releases ground level.

In spite of these mysterious results, I still think that the major release occurred with the hydrogen explosion, since explosion debris were highly contaminated.



IV. Recapping on remediation of the school ground

Following the surface soil removal method performed by Koriyama-shi to reduce the dose rate of some of the school grounds, Fukushima-shi today tested a method to put the contaminated surface soil at the bottom of the soil whose surface was temporary put aside. By digging up to 50 cm, the dose rate decreased by a factor if ten. Before this treatment, the dose rate at the surface was 2.3-2.1microSv/h.

After the treatment, the dose rate went down to 0.2 microSv/h. Another test showed that this method can be equally effective, when the depth is around 20 cm.



Well, let me stop here.



Genn Saji

beefsteak
25th May 2011, 11:55 PM
"50 cm surface soil removal" mentioned in prior post by Japan's Dr. Saji, equates to 19.69" in "American lingo."

Seems to this poster that indicates pretty deep and quick radioactive penetration from strictly "airborne" contaminants over 58 days in such a short radius from Fukushima. Wonder what soil type?? It stands to reason that soil type would affect penetration rates.

It is further noted there is NO mention of rainfall in that same 58 day period in that schoolyard. Wonder where "groundwater level" is in that schoolyard?

Anyone else reading something else into those "by day 58, 50cm penetration school yard" soil testing" commentary?

So many unknowns, and "undefineds" an incomplete datasets....makes a good case for wondering if Dr. Saji's blogs are being "sanitized," as well.

beefsteak

beefsteak
26th May 2011, 07:10 PM
Speaking of force-feeding Boron to dairy cattle...
the following information is presented by moi--completely and fully conflicted about the posting to follow.

Inside myself, my wife and I have discussed that true mitigation/remediation help in this poisoned earth and air time post 3/11 in which we are now consigned to live and tarry till HE comes, is going to come from "horizontal sharing/sources" and not from any trickle down. The trickle down seems to be what the sheeple are waiting for pronoucements to come from. Not us. However, the conflict is in who to believe? What measuring standards are concerned and committed to sound responsive actions are we to use? We feel comfortable relying upon long-term voices--those with alphabet soup after their names like Saji, Gunderson, Blaylock, Starr-Hull. And we feel a measure of trust and truth also comes from credible, long-term established voices such as Bob Nichols, Yoichi Shimatsu, etc.

And THEN we have these newer voices come in, and we don't know how to evaluate THEIR voices, since they seem to have an agenda...a product to sell, in this case MILK.

My wife and I acknowledge the Dairy Industry has sold us down the river a long time ago with their hidden strontium-90 from Nevada Above Ground testing poisoning of existing milk supply. Witness the decay to Yttrium which has been declared as THE source for pancreatic cancers and diabetes epidemics at least downwind here in America.

So, when new voices such as are written up, photographed expertly, and seemingly "trying to help" as posted below, and they are coming from biased interests within a corrupt lobbying milk industry...
well, we're gagging on it. And don't trust it. And feel isolated by applying logic and refusal to accept the PR that is starting a NEW MILK PUSH...this time because boron is being force-fed to dairy cattle in Hawaii.

Here's the copy/paste:


MAY 10, 2011

Big Island Dairy Farmers fight radiation with Boron
May 10, 2011 / Community
All Islands, Big Island, Oahu
Britton & Shekinah; Milk and Honey Farm

An open letter from dairy farmers on the Big Island of Hawaii shares some solutions for working with radiation problems in milk.

Dear Milk Share Members,
Our goal to offer high quality safe food to our community has recently been challenged in the reality of the radioactivity being released into our environment. In the past weeks radioactive levels have increased in Hawaii, with high spikes and a more current leveling off of radiation levels. Milk from the large dairies in Hamakua and Hawi has shown elevated levels of radiation, from 400 to 2400 times the recognized safe levels.

Why is milk contamination significant in the world of agriculture? Because milk represents the overall condition of the entire food chain, since cows consume grass and are exposed to the same elements as crops. So, when milk tests positive for radiation, it indicates the entire food chain is contaminated since cows eat grass. When grass is contaminated everything grown in the same soil is contaminated. This has proposed a serious concern to us farmers, with us asking what can we do? After much consideration, research, and conversations with much appreciated experts in the field of biological farming and human & animal health, we have found some things which we are able to do to protect our soil, animals, and bodies.

Aside from the much recognized supplement potassium iodine as a protection against radioactive iodine, there are a number of ways we can help. We have remembered our friend, elemental boron and the position it plays on the earth. Boron is the only mineral capable of accepting and ionizing radiation that never changes the innards or the nucleus of the cell. Spoken simply, boron can take radiation and release it without upsetting its own very delicate balance.

Boron is used extensively in the nuclear industry.

Sodium borate is regularly used for standby liquid control systems, in case of emergencies. It was used in Cheronbyl in 1986 mixed with sand to prevent further radiation leakage. It was also used in 1999 in Tokaimura, Japan, to absorb the massive amounts of radiation after an accident at a plant. Currently it is being dumped on fuel rods and in surrounding waters of the Fukushima plant. Boron is widely recognized as extremely safe and can be used to capture radioactivity on our soils, gardens, orchards, etc. It also can be safely ingested by humans and animals. Boron will accept radiation and ionize it within our bodies, after which our bodies will safely excrement the boron and radioactivity.

We have begun feeding our cows and goats sodium borate at milking times, as well as adding it to free choice kelp and water troughs. In the past years we have monitored boron and other minerals in the soil and have added as necessary to bring levels up to recognized healthy levels. As a safety measure we are planning to implement a boron dosage to all of our pastures, as well as neighboring pastures.

For humans, boron can safely ingested at a dosage of 4-10 mg per day.
Borax, 11% boron, can be used as a tea and sprayed on your gardens, or land surrounding your home, at a rate of 10# of Borax per acre, 1#, if using elemental boron.

Borax can also be ingested at
1/8 tsp to 1 litre water for women,
¼ tsp to 1 litre water for men.

Fortunately, red wine and coffee are significant sources of boron, as well as
non-citrus fruits,
red grapes,
plums,
pears,
apples,
avocados,
legumes and
nuts!

Boron is known to be non-carcinogenic, non-mutagenic and has been used internally to protect the astronauts in space as they leave the earth’s protective magnetic field.

Other things we can do to protect our bodies are to
consume zeolites,
use potassium iodine,
receive plenty of glutathione, the best source of which is whey!,
eat plenty of supergreens, such as kale, but including chlorella and spirulina,
maintain healthy mineral levels, and
eat lots of good healthy fats, including raw butter, and coconuts, which offer a fantastic layer of protection for our cells.

Baking soda has been known to diminish the severity of change produced by uranium to the kidneys, which are the first to show radiation damages of uranium.

Dosage is
1 tsp to 8 oz water for adults and
¼ tsp in 4 oz water for children.

According to Cheryl McCoy, http://www.Aboutclay.com, Calcium Bentonite Clay acts as a magnet absorbing anything with a positive charge, i.e., radiation and toxicity.

She suggests:
ashing all produce which may be considered radioactive in
1 part clay to 8 parts water
in a non-metallic bowl,
soaking for 10 minutes,
then rinse and
dry as usual.

Bentonite clay can be added to:
catchment tanks,
drinking water or
raw milk
......to isolate radioactivity, which will not be released once captured by clay.

Also, the body cannot digest clay, but will rather release clay through excrement.
Clay can be added to milk or drinking water at a dosage of
1 oz liquid calcium bentonite to 1 gallon raw milk or drinking water.

Either allow to settle and pour off or
mix and consume clay and liquid.

1-2 oz liquid bentonite clay can be safely consumed per day by an adult, with significant detox abilities.

In these tenuous times it is all we can do to be honestly informed of the situation at hand and act accordingly. We are doing our best to protect our soil, animals and bodies from the elevated levels of radioactivity, and hope that you will also.

Our prayers and blessings are with the farmers and families closer to the source of radioactive pollution. We send them our love and hopes for a green, safe future for all on this earth.

Blessings,
Britton & Shekinah
Milk and Honey Farm
Pahoa, Big Island Hawaii
http://hawaiihealthguide.com/healthtalk/display.htm?id=915&hhsid=9ea42c3eb9d93ab4faf7ca3cd98ee6d8

gallery of Milk and Honey Farm:
http://craigelevitch.smugmug.com/Gardening/Hawaii-Island-Homegrown-Food/7592010_W3g8S/3/498331765_cNQXP#498331765_cNQXP


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GS-USers...my wife and I are GAGGING on the broad assumptions being passed along by a couple of organic Hawaiian nobody's giving nutritional advice which THEY'VE heard and have no basis for validating nor checking out in their own experience.

Is this bothering anyone else who reads this?

It's one thing for Dr. Blaylock, MD., neurosurgeon and nutrition specialist with legit creds wrt. brain and food chemistry to talk dosages in my wife's and my minds.

But for TWO WELL-INTENTIONED LADY cow farmers to be dosing dairy herd at milking machine time with boron and then giving nutritional/mineral dosage advice simply broken into adult women, men, or children categories. SAY WHAT? It's coming in the "horizontal info dissemination portal" my wife and I want to learn from and learn to trust, but........?

Are we nuts? Or just toasted zombies?

beefsteak

Book
26th May 2011, 07:20 PM
Are we nuts? Or just toasted zombies?



http://www.futurlink.com/media/asset_publics/resources/000/001/606/case_study/Dancing_with_the_stars_143x181.jpg?1287676800

I haven't seen Japan even mentioned in the past two weeks on teevee. Not once.

:D

Dogman
26th May 2011, 07:32 PM
Are we nuts? Or just toasted zombies?



http://www.futurlink.com/media/asset_publics/resources/000/001/606/case_study/Dancing_with_the_stars_143x181.jpg?1287676800

I haven't seen Japan even mentioned in the past two weeks on teevee. Not once.

:D


The media run from one fire to another, out of sight out of mind, sort of.

Quite, on the nuke plants, Alabama T damage, half ass's gulf cleanup, etc, etc
we may hear from these if the news cycle gets slow, but more than likely they
will make a weekend news special' months later.

The public attention span can only take so much at one sitting on one thing,
anymore than that and viewers start loosing attention and ratings start to suffer. :sarc:

Such is the 24/7 news cycle we live in now! :sarc:

beefsteak
26th May 2011, 10:23 PM
Dogman,
you speak truth to power as you so eloquently pointed out the attention span of the current "news cycle."

Thank you!

beefsteak

beefsteak
26th May 2011, 10:32 PM
More truth emerges:



TEPCO Says Iodine at Kashiwazaki Plant May Be From Fukushima
By Tsuyoshi Inajima and Yuji Okada - May 26, 2011 4:54 AM MT


Tokyo Electric Power Co. said it found traces of radioactive iodine 131 near its Kashiwazaki Kariwa nuclear plant that may have originated from the utility’s stricken Fukushima Dai-Ichi reactors.

Operations at Kashiwazaki on Japan’s western coast are normal, the company known as TEPCO said in a statement today. The iodine was found in seaweed that may have drifted over from the Fukushima plant on the country’s eastern coast, according to the statement.

Radiation leaks from the three reactor meltdowns at Fukushima rank the accident on the same scale as the Chernobyl disaster in 1986. The 20-kilometer (12-mile) exclusion zone around Fukushima has forced the evacuation of 50,000 households, extermination of livestock and disposal of crops.

Chubu Electric Power Co., which shut all the reactors at its sole nuclear station following the Fukushima disaster, detected radioactive cobalt 58 on a filter attached to an exhaust stack at the plant, the utility said today.

The amount of cobalt 58 found at the Hamaoka plant in southeast Japan wasn’t high enough to be harmful :o, according to Chubu Electric.

Maintenance at the plant’s reactor No. 5 may have tainted the filter, the company said.

During the reactor’s shutdown, about 400 metric tons of seawater leaked into the steam condenser and 5 tons of it flowed into the pressure vessel, Akio Miyazaki, the Tokyo-based spokesman at the utility, said by phone today.

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Tsuyoshi Inajima at tinajima@bloomberg.net; Yuji Okada in Tokyo at yokada6@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for the story:
Alexander Kwiatkowski akwiatkowsk2@bloomberg.net http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-26/tepco-says-iodine-at-kashiwazaki-plant-may-be-from-fukushima-1-.html

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strains credulity that seaweed would wander around the island nation of Japan from east to west just so it could show up over on the west side of Japan and "be discovered" based upon the currents' maps priorly posted on this thread by earlier sea goers such as GS-US'er SOLID.

Hmmmm.

beefsteak

beefsteak
26th May 2011, 10:59 PM
Robert Alvarez's update on America's Spent Fuel Pools, especially in regards to America's Boiling Water Reactors (such as Fuku's Mark 1 multi-unit per site installation)
Alvarez served as a Senior Policy Advisor to the Secretary of Energy during the Clinton administration

Beginning excerpt shown below:



Spent Nuclear Fuel Pools in the US: Reducing the Deadly Risks of Storage

By Robert Alvarez

The price of fixing America's nuclear vulnerabilities may be high, but the price of doing too little is incalculable.

Cover for Spent Nuclear Fuel Pools in the United StatesU.S. reactors have generated about 65,000 metric tons of spent fuel, of which 75 percent is stored in pools, according to Nuclear Energy Institute data. Spent fuel rods give off about 1 million rems (10,00Sv) of radiation per hour at a distance of one foot — enough radiation to kill people in a matter of seconds. There are more than 30 million such rods in U.S. spent fuel pools. No other nation has generated this much radioactivity from either nuclear power or nuclear weapons production.

Nearly 40 percent of the radioactivity in U.S. spent fuel is cesium-137 (4.5 billion curies) — roughly 20 times more than released from all atmospheric nuclear weapons tests. U.S. spent pools hold about 15-30 times more cesium-137 than the Chernobyl accident released. For instance, the pool at the Vermont Yankee reactor, a BWR Mark I, currently holds nearly three times the amount of spent fuel stored at Dai-Ichi's crippled Unit 4 reactor. The Vermont Yankee reactor also holds about seven percent more radioactivity than the combined total in the pools at the four troubled reactors at the Fukushima site.

Even though they contain some of the largest concentrations of radioactivity on the planet, U.S. spent nuclear fuel pools are mostly contained in ordinary industrial structures designed to merely protect them against the elements. Some are made from materials commonly used to house big-box stores and car dealerships.

http://www.ips-dc.org/reports/spent_nuclear_fuel_pools_in_the_us_reducing_the_de adly_risks_of_storage


http://www.ips-dc.org/files/3195/IPS-RA-Report-Cover-front.jpg?width=250

beefsteak

beefsteak
26th May 2011, 11:54 PM
EXCERPTED:


Fukushima Faces ‘Massive’ Water Problem
By Stuart Biggs and Yuriy Humber - May 26, 2011 6:37 PM MT


As a team from the International Atomic Energy Agency visits Tokyo Electric Power Co.’s crippled nuclear plant today, academics warn the company has failed to disclose the scale of radiation leaks and faces a “massive problem” with contaminated water.

The utility known as Tepco has been pumping cooling water into the three reactors that melted down after the March 11 earthquake and tsunami. By May 18, almost 100,000 tons of radioactive water had leaked into basements and other areas of the Fukushima Dai-Ichi plant, according to Tepco’s estimates. The radiated water may double by the end of December.

“Contaminated water is increasing and this is a massive problem,” Tetsuo Iguchi, a specialist in isotope analysis and radiation detection at Nagoya University, said by phone. “They need to find a place to store the contaminated water and they need to guarantee it won’t go into the soil.”

The 18-member IAEA team, led by the U.K.’s head nuclear safety inspector, Mike Weightman, is visiting the Fukushima reactors to investigate the accident and the response. Tepco and Japan’s nuclear regulators haven’t updated the total radiation leakage from the plant in northern Japan since April 12.

Japan’s nuclear safety agency estimated in April the radiation released from Dai-Ichi to be around 10 percent of that from the accident at Chernobyl in the former Soviet Union in 1986, while a Tepco official said at the time the amount may eventually exceed it.


Full Disclosure

“Tepco knows more than they’ve said about the amount of radiation leaking from the plant,” Jan van de Putte, a specialist in radiation safety trained at the Technical University of Delft in the Netherlands, said yesterday in Tokyo. “What we need is a full disclosure, a full inventory of radiation released including the exact isotopes.”

The government plans to release details on the radiation released at the “appropriate time,” said Goshi Hosono, an adviser to Prime Minister Naoto Kan who is overseeing the crisis response and appears at daily briefings at Tepco’s headquarters.

.......

The Japanese utility is trying to put the reactors into a cold shutdown, where core temperatures fall below 100 degrees Celsius (212 degrees Fahrenheit), within six to nine months. Ostendorff rated the chance of Tepco achieving that goal at six or seven out of 10.



‘Fundamentally Incorrect’

Tepco took more than two months to confirm the meltdowns in three reactors and this week reported the breaches in the containment chambers. The delay in releasing information has led to criticism of Prime Minister Naoto Kan for not doing more to ensure Tepco is keeping the public informed.

“What I told the public was fundamentally incorrect,” Kan said in parliament on May 20, referring to assessments from the government and Tokyo that reactors were stable and the situation was contained not long after March 11. “The government failed to respond to Tepco’s mistaken assumptions and I am deeply sorry.”

Public disagreements emerged this week between Tepco and the government over whether orders were given to halt seawater injection into reactors to cool them the day after the tsunami.


Order Ignored

Tepco is considering whether to sanction the manager of the Fukushima plant, Masao Yoshida, after he ignored an order to stop pumping seawater, Junichi Matsumoto, a general manager at the company, said yesterday.

He was commenting after Kyodo News cited Tepco Vice- President Sakae Muto saying Yoshida will be removed for disobeying the order. Hosono said Yoshida is needed at the plant to contain the crisis.

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Japan’s Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency on April 12 raised the severity rating of the Fukushima accident to 7, the highest on the global scale and the same as Chernobyl. The partial reactor meltdown at Three Mile Island in Pennsylvania in 1979 is rated 5.



‘Desperate Measure’

The government needs to investigate the total amount of radiation leaked from the plant to ascertain damage to the ocean from contaminated water, said van de Putte, also a nuclear specialist at environmental group Greenpeace International.

The group found seaweed and fish contaminated to more than 50 times the 2,000 becquerel per kilogram legal limit for radioactive iodine-131 off the coast of Fukushima during a survey between May 3 and 9.

Mol, Belgium-based Nuclear Research Centre and Herouville- Saint-Clair, France-based Association pour le Controle de la Radioactivite dans l’Ouest confirmed they conducted analysis of the samples supplied by Greenpeace.

Ascertaining the cumulative volume of radiation emitted by the plant is possible, van de Putte said.

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Tepco is planning to treat the contaminated water at Dai- Ichi with a unit supplied by Areva SA (CEI) from mid-June. The decontamination equipment can process 1,200 tons of water a day, Tepco said.


To contact the reporters on this story:
Stuart Biggs in Tokyo at sbiggs3@bloomberg.net
Yuriy Humber in Tokyo at yhumber@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story:
Peter Langan at plangan@bloomberg.net


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Please note: the promised Areva facility already under contract to be completed by Jan 2011, is cracked by the very same earthquake which did in FUKUSHIMA DAI-ICHI #1-6.

Estimates bandied about by other reporters state the new "remodeled warehouse" will hold about as much water as a tea strainer. As some GS-USer posted on here in the last few days...what happened to the megafloat water treatment unit Japan was going to "borrow back" from Russia who is decommissioning nuke subs with it currently?????

Sure haven't heard anything about that recently.

beefsteak

Serpo
27th May 2011, 02:46 AM
By R. D. Bradshaw



From the beginnings of the Japanese nuclear crisis at Fukushima, www.analysis-news.com has followed events there to make reports to subscribers. While much of the focus has been on reported health effects and natural remedies to possibly deal with the crisis, there have been a continuous series of reports showing the absolute lies and deception emanating from TEPCO (Tokyo Electric Power Company), governments (like the US and Japan), and of course the Rothschild controlled media.



It has been bad enough that the various governments and TEPCO have deliberately lied, deceived and altered reports to paint a picture considerably different than the real world; but we have had the repeat of the lies in the Rothschild media, coupled with an almost complete black out of true news on the crisis. You’d think the Rothschild media reporters and editors would realize that they are being poisoned by Fukushima radiation along with the rest of us. But no, the Rothschild media deliberately acts to hide and deceive the real world and real world crisis.



Two earlier Goldsmiths have reported on the media lies and deception on radiation at length. For those interested in reading these comments, you can find them at www.goldseek.com and www.analysis-news.com in the Goldsmiths CXC, published Apr 22, 2011 and the Goldsmiths CXCI, published Apr 28, 2011. The short of it is that Fukushima has been belching out radiation 24/7 since the crisis started on Mar 11. That radiation now circles the globe in the Northern Hemisphere. Much of it is carried in the Jet Stream to the US and then around the globe.



The US government in particular has largely stopped monitoring and reporting on the crisis (governments say that they don’t want to panic people—meaning it is better to let them alone to live in ignorance and radiation poisoning than to be told the truth; never understanding that people deserve and have a right to be warned by their governments so that they can move to a better location if they want to in order to avoid the radiation). Of course, the truth is that most Rothschild controlled governments don’t give a squat about the health and safety of their people. All they care about is profit and gain to the Rothschild masters running things—as will be addressed in this Goldsmiths.



In addition to comments in the Goldsmiths, www.ex-skf.blogspot.com had a recent story on gamma rays at Fukushima with some comments. One comment said: “We all know the Japanese are handy with cameras but what I would like to know is when is somebody going to step in and take over operations from TEPCO. I know every culture has its own way of doing things but this is a global genocide. Where is the UN? Where are our leaders? Where am I going to find safe food and water? What about my children? It seems to me everyone is just a little too casual about the destruction of the planet. One more thing that occurred to me is that with all of the wars ongoing and more on the way and everything is getting irradiated anyway someone will decide it’s OK to use nuclear bombs again. From those about to die, sayonara.”



UPI.com on May 22, 2011 had a major world news story on Japan Reports More Radiation Leakage which had a couple of comments worth noting. The first one was from Barry Cohen, owner of zeolite.com, who wrote: “The Japanese Government and TEPCO the power company that allowed this HUGE Nuclear Disaster to happen is amazingly negligent! Criminally Negligent! They are not doing ANYTHING to protect all of the people and animals that are now sick and dying and will become sick and possibly die from radiation exposure! Within a few days of this Nuclear disaster our company Zeolite dotcom has offered to donate and GIVE FOR FREE 16 Tons (32,000 Pounds) of the highest quality medical grade ingestible Zeolite to the Japanese Government and to TEPCO the power company to pass out to the people of Japan in order to remove radiation from their bodies! Even the poor Japanese pets can benefit from our Zeolite and medical grade high quality natural Zeolite has been proven to safely remove radiation from humans and animals in Chernobyl Russia after their Nuclear disaster! However both the Japanese Government and TEPCO the power company has totally ignored our repeated offers to help save the health and lives of affected people and animals in Japan! I have NEVER experienced such total BLANTANT ignorance in my entire life! This Nuclear disaster is also affecting the ecosystem and health of the entire planet and it must be stopped! If the Japanese cannot fix their mess then the rest of the world must quickly move in by force if necessary to stop this disaster and help those affected together! When it is contained and under control then Japan can foot the bill! Afterwards all Nuclear power plants must be better inspected and upgraded if necessary to prevent future disasters! There is no time to wait any longer! Speak Out People! It’s Our Future’s At Stake.”



Another comment said: “Wow I can't believe the arrogance of the entire nuclear industry. Is this the reason we are not getting any updates about radiation fallout anywhere in the entire USA. Just pure arrogance and blatent disregard for the depth of this terrible situation?? Some individuals are monitoring radiation here in USA and finding high levels in the rain water. But no one is being advised to stay out of the rain by the US government! How Sad.”



Let me add a footnote to the above comment from Barry Cohen on Zeolite. I know little or nothing about the Zeolite product and I am not recommending it or suggesting it in this Goldsmiths. I am including it herein only for information purposes to illustrate the enormous apathy and don’t care by government leaders who should care about their people. Persons interested in this product should check it out with their health professionals.



The Seriousness of the Incident



In my review of the Japanese crisis (and I follow the daily reports primarily from Energy News at www.enenews.com), Northern Honshu Island in Japan has become a total nuclear dead zone which will eventually have to be totally evacuated. Instead of being contained in days and months, it will likely take years—maybe up to ten years or longer. Several major core meltdowns have occurred and the proverbial China syndrome may be in effect. If so, where will these cores eventually end up? Some have posited in the underground water table; others have said in the Pacific; and others confess that they don’t know.



Tragically for the people involved, the Rothschild controlled media and the Japanese government doesn’t seem to give a squat one way or the other (and if you don’t think governments lie to their people, you are an idiot—proof, every day or so we learn new revelations on the crisis about how the US and Japanese governments and TEPCO have lied repeatedly in public statements). It looks like someone would get up and start telling the public what is going on. Instead, we are told daily about Tiger Woods, IMF Chief Khan and his assault on a hotel maid in New York and of course what is the latest opinions and thinking of people in Hollywood and on the sports pages—as if the public needs to be kept up to date on a lot of frivolous crap (incidentally, this is called media brainwashing).



The Japanese economy, government, money and financial markets should all logically be in a collapse and spiraling sharply down. Yet, we have not seen any of this. Here, we have a huge nuclear dead zone, evacuation of people (which increases over time), huge lies about the health effects of nuclear radiation poisoning (the dummies in dummy land are told by their governments that it is harmless; while many perceptive doctors and common sense from non-brainwashed people tell you that it is dangerous and unsafe at any level).



For those following the financial markets, it is crystal clear that Japan will have a huge collapse in its economy. Its once trade surplus will vanish and there cannot be any reasonable recovery as Japanese exports and balance of trade fall dramatically. Oh, of course, the powers that be will continue the lies and deception for some time. But that time is limited. Japanese and even Korean goods are being found to now contain radiation poisoning. On Mar 29, 2011, Reuters had a story that China had refused to allow a ship from California to dock as it had a high level of radiation (the ship had docked for a few days in Tokyo). Nations and peoples are going to soon start abandoning products from Japan and possibly even South Korea. This has already happened with food from Japan. Who wants it? Well, they (the usual Rothschild Cabal liars who are the powers that be) may say it’s safe, but I am not going to willingly eat it (yet, it is fast covering all food grown in the US and much of the rest of the world).



The point here is that Japanese stocks, bonds and money should all be collapsing. Yet, they are not. So the question must be asked--why not? Well, the answer is going to devolve to who makes the profits with the markets being continuously manipulated to show lies and deception instead of reality and truth?



The Bottom Line



So, if there is money involved (which there is), we must look at what and why the various Rothschild controlled governments and Rothschild controlled media powers are collectively working in conspiracy and collusion to hide perhaps one of the greatest tragedies among man in human history. And since there is money involved to influence the various governments and media powers, as owned/directed by the Rothschild Cabal of big bankers (like the Rothschilds, Roggenfelders, Lazards, Oppenheimers, Warburgs, etc), we should be able to define what is happening by following the money. Consequently, where is the money trail on this thing?



Thus, who is profiting from the lies being told by the Rothschild governments and media powers? Well, the typical Japanese citizen on the street gains nothing. The American people and people throughout the rest of the Northern Hemisphere gain nothing. We are all collectively being poisoned and our leaders lie to us and deceive us about it. So who benefits and profits from the lies and deception?



The answer here is obvious. This delay of facing up to the real world benefits only one class of people. The beneficiaries are the stock holders and investors in Japanese paper (bonds, yen, etc). If the inevitable collapse can be delayed and hidden from the people, it will allow the Rothschild Cabal insiders an opportunity to divest from their Japanese holdings and get out without any major losses. While many Japanese citizens own some of this paper, we can bank on it that the powers controlling the governments and media don’t give a squat about the average Japanese citizen on the streets. So we must look to insiders as being the beneficiaries.



And I must suggest that that’s exactly what is underway. The Rothschild Cabal fat cats and their racial cousins throughout the world are evidently bailing out of Japan. To what extent thinking Japanese are doing the same, I cannot say. But likely anyone with brains must see the inevitable collapse and must be divesting just as fast as possible without trying to cause a panic or major sell off (if things go down too fast and too soon, they could collapse so rapidly that the insiders could not get out without sustaining major losses; thus they are making it a slow, controlled fall to keep values up as much as possible before the collapse does come).



There is also another important collateral issue here in that the Rothschild Cabal cousins and insiders are big in the nuclear power industry. They are trying to save the industry and their investments in nuclear power long term. If the dummies in dummy land get wise and start closing down nuclear power plants, it might be a disaster for the Rothschild Cabal masters and their huge investments in this industry. They are doing everything possible to try to save the industry. Bad publicity over the Japanese crisis will not do them and their investments any good. As a minimum, they need time to bail their investments out before radiated people start closing down the reactors and the factories which build the plants and equipment and provide the fuel.



The main things on this theme that will survive for sure are gold and silver. They will come out smelling like a rose.

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1306476180.php

__________________________________________________ ___________

Serpo
27th May 2011, 04:14 AM
Nuclear Super Typhoon? Massive storm may approach Fukushima this weekend — Current gusts of 195 mph
May 26th, 2011 at 04:58 PM


Super typhoon churns through Pacific, threatens Okinawa, CNN, May 26, 2011:

Super Typhoon Songda ripped across the western Pacific on Thursday, dropping heavy rain on the Philippines and threatening Okinawa and the Japanese main islands with rain and damaging winds into the weekend.

Songda was a Category 5 storm late Thursday, with maximum sustained winds of 161 mph and gusts of 195 mph, according to the Joint Typhoon Warning Center in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. The storm was producing wave heights of 38 feet in the Pacific, forecasters said.

The forecast track for Songda put it over Okinawa on Saturday night as a Category 2 storm, with maximum sustained winds of 109 mph and gusts up 132 mph. [...]

Tropical Cyclone Information, Japan Meteorological Agency, May 26, 2011:

Typhoon Songda brings floods, snarls traffic in Philippines, Bloomberg News by Cecilia Yap and Joel Guinto, May 25, 2011:

http://enenews.com/nuclear-super-typhoon-massive-storm-hit-fukushima-weekend-current-gusts-195-mph

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27th May 2011, 04:17 AM
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I haven't seen Japan even mentioned in the past two weeks on teevee. Not once.

:D


maybe the FCC managed to get the word Fukushima classified as a swear word.

it's looking like genetic mutations will be a standard part of this generation's breeding cycle.

i hope it's not so bad that the nation has to add a 3rd category of bathroom for the upcoming mutants.

i don't think the US can afford to increase their public restroom count by 50%.

DMac
27th May 2011, 09:57 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/letter-fukushima-mother

Letter from a Fukushima mother

When Tomoko-san, a mother of two in Fukushima City, heard from an NGO worker that I was going to be in Fukushima to report on a story about radiation levels at local schools, she was kind enough to volunteer her time to speak to me – and handed me this letter. I promised to translate it and share it with you. So here it is:

To people in the United States and around the world,

I am so sorry for the uranium and plutonium that Japan has released into the environment. The fallout from Fukushima has already circled the world many times, reaching Hawaii, Alaska, and even New York.

We live 60 kilometers (37 miles) from the plant and our homes have been contaminated beyond levels seen at Chernobyl. The cesium-137 they are finding in the soil will be here for 30 years. But the government will not help us. They tell us to stay put. They tell our kids to put on masks and hats and keep going to school.

This summer, our children won’t be able to go swimming. They won’t be able to play outside. They can’t eat Fukushima’s delicious peaches. They can’t even eat the rice that the Fukushima farmers are making. They can’t go visit Fukushima’s beautiful rivers, mountains and lakes. This makes me sad. This fills me with so much regret.

Instead, our children will spend the summer in their classrooms, with no air conditioning, sweating as they try to concentrate on their lessons. We don’t even know how much radiation they’ve already been exposed to.

I was eight years old when the Fukushima Daiichi plant opened. If I had understood what they were building, I would have fought against it. I didn’t realize that it contained dangers that would threaten my children, my children’s children and their children.

I am grateful for all the aid all the world has sent us.

Now, what we ask is for you to speak out against the Japanese government. Pressure them into taking action. Tell them to make protecting children their top priority.

Thank you so much,

Tomoko Hatsuzawa

Fukushima City

May 25, 2011

[Translated by Hiroko Tabuchi]

beefsteak
27th May 2011, 10:46 AM
Thanks, DMAC

Oftimes, the simply put is the most eloquently voiced.

Nowhere is this truer than the translated Mother's Letter.

beefsteak

beefsteak
27th May 2011, 11:29 AM
Appreciated your multiple postings, Serpo.

Wanted to respond to the point being made about "zeolite generosity" based upon some earlier comments on this thread and extrapolated math logic.


Within a few days of this Nuclear disaster our company Zeolite dotcom has offered to donate and GIVE FOR FREE 16 Tons (32,000 Pounds) of the highest quality medical grade ingestible Zeolite to the Japanese Government and to TEPCO the power company to pass out to the people of Japan in order to remove radiation from their bodies!

Here are the thoughts which raced through the mind as I carefully read between the lines of this generous gift offer and the insulted giver who was not taken up on the offer.

1) Red tape to get zeolite tonnage from company to Japanese CITIZENRY, not some warehouse somewhere under Japanese Govt.
Govt is still hunting for 26K or more missing and presumed dead from 3/11
Govt is still unable to get F. under control, plus all the OTHER BWReactors on that Island
Govt is still unable to get over 140,000 citizens out of cardboard school gymnasiums' hovels.
Govt is still unable to guarantee water is drinkable.
Govt is still unable to locate food, bury stinking, poisoned cattle and other livestock, veggies, fruit, rice
Govt is....
not the best conduit for getting ANYTHING helpful through to those who need it in Japan.

Then, let's not forget the loss of face, by tacit admission they have a problem, simply by accepting such a gift...let alone in an election cycle "over there."

QUESTION: After 60+ days, are we the global people still unable to penetrate the radiated fog and get something as simple as zeolite from donor to recipient with a bit of creative, outside the govt box thinking?

2) Let's talk dosages in 32000 tons. Let's assume it is LONG tons as in metric tons...makes the math "easier."

32K tonnes = 32 000 000 000 grams. At 3 grams laxation threshold per adult, that would be a mere 10 billion 1 dose only "prescriptions." (Recall if you will, the personally reported, anecdotal difficulty at 2000 milligrams (2 grams) 2 x a day --with a foreign mineral supplement called French Green Clay-- creating stabbing stomach pains within 20-30 minutes of swallowing with massive water, followed by massive "excremental throughput" for the next 48 hours.)

This mind staggers at the thought of multiplied millions of simultaneous stomach distress and then excremental throughput of multiplied millions ONTOP OF NO HOME, INADEQUATE WASTE COLLECTION LET ALONE TREATMENT FACILITIES, crying babies, and already overwhelmed medical care staff trying to treat a massively displaced, now zeolite-chelating Japanese poisoned public due to a "gift."

At Chernobyl, the radiation removal mineral product was passed out in 20% French Green Clay baked into chocolate bars and FREELY DISPENSED to a poisoned populace--a people STILL in their homes and villages and a functioning society, not a post earthquake then tsunamied, totally and geographically DEVASTATED populace.

To add to all this logistical distribution nightmare, ALL this mitigating clays/zeolites, etc., MUST BE taken with massive amounts of water. Non-poisoned H2O is and has been currently unavailable in quantities since 3/11 in Japan, most especially.

3) 10B adults get 1 dose, one time, one day.
or 5 Bill adults get 2 doses, 2 times, one day
or 2.5B adults get 4 doses, enough for 2x per day, for 2 days.
or 1.25B adults get 8 doses, enough for 2x per day for 4 days.
or 612,500,000 adults get 16 doses, enough for 2x per day for 8 days

The standard "Paper or plastic" query at the checkout register at local grocery stores comes to mind...only in this instance, it would be: "....gel capsules? Ziploc baggies? Boxes? Bottles?"

4) Radiation is unrelentingly being released for 60+ days now. GLOBALLY.

60+days and counting Versus 8 days 1x gift for 612,500,000 poisoned Japanese?

Logic says there are "reasons" the zeolite ONE TIME TONNAGE GIFT wasn't accepted.

So, when is a gift not a gift? ? . And when is Japanese Govt response or lack thereof, to be favorably or unfavorably compared to the Post Chernobyl response?

Questions to Antonio: Do you know when the FREE Choc Candy Bar with French Green Clay distribution program stopped post-Chernobyl?

Did the populace feel like it was a publicity stunt? Or was it generally consumed eagerly, swamping supply with vociferous demand?

Please remember before judging Japanese Govt too harshly for the much touted "gift" non-acceptance, the old but goody advice: "Don't start something you can't finish...."

Japan Didn't.

"Zeolite dotcom's Barry Cohen" should quit bellyaching and grandstanding, and become part of the solution if he/they are serious about their "gift."

Personally? I'm embarrassed at the grandstanding rant--in the comments section of a posted article on this tragedy. "lookie how nice America's DoTcOm COHEN is...."

GIVE US ALL STRENGTH, wisdom, horse sense . With a large dollop of grace and humility

beefsteak

gunDriller
28th May 2011, 07:10 AM
from The Oil Drum -

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/7964#more

"Ten Thousand Holes in Fuku Dai-ichi

I read the news today (...) and it seems that there are a growing number of holes at the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear facility. Although nobody has actually seen them, much less counted them all, holes from 3cm to perhaps 7cm in diameter are believed to exist in the primary containment vessels for at least two of the reactors. Tepco suspects that the holes were created by molten fuel eating its way through the steel walls. Water is being injected into the containment in an effort to continuously remove heat from the fuel, but the water leaking through the holes is bringing radioactive contaminants along with it while filling up the no-longer-drywell and the basement of the reactor building. A plant to process this water is being designed. In the meanwhile, highly radioactive water is being pumped to a storage facility next door. Unfortunately, this facility is almost full."


I am beginning to question their assumption, "oh, we could never irradiate the entire Pacific Ocean ... it's too big".

That's related to why people used nuclear power in the first place - the ability to obtain an almost infinite amount of energy from a relatively small amount of feedstock.

Since that almost infinite amount of energy brings with it a huge amount of radiation, and TEPCO is using the Pacific Ocean as a dump-site ... wow, better stock up on tuna & obtain a fishing license & some lures - and a BIIIG freezer.

Neuro
28th May 2011, 11:09 AM
Fortunately, red wine and coffee are significant sources of boron
Been thinking about stocking up on pre 2011 Red Wine, radiation free, shockfull of anti-oxidants, long shelf life, mood enhancer, good blood sugar profile, and contains boron!

gunDriller
28th May 2011, 12:26 PM
Fortunately, red wine and coffee are significant sources of boron
Been thinking about stocking up on pre 2011 Red Wine, radiation free, shockfull of anti-oxidants, long shelf life, mood enhancer, good blood sugar profile, and contains boron!


may i suggest a 2007 Chateau Montelena Cabernet ...
http://www.wine.com/V6/Chateau-Montelena-Napa-Valley-Cabernet-Sauvignon-2007/wine/107357/detail.aspx

a little pricey at $48 but, sounds like it was a good year -
"When we talk about vintages at Montelena, they are often categorized as “hot” or “cool.” Then occasionally there are years like 2007 which, because of their ideal conditions, earn the tag of “Goldilocks” because everything was just right. Warm spring conditions led to earlier than normal bud break, while the moderate temperatures in summer and early fall further extended the growing season, resulting in long, slow ripening with fantastic flavor development and near-perfect juice chemistries."

94 Wine Advocate
93 International Wine Cellar


or, perhaps a Vinedos de Paganos El Puntido 2005, a Tempranillo (Spanish red wine made from a black grape) -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempranillo

http://www.wine.com/V6/Vinedos-de-Paganos-El-Puntido-2005/wine/107703/detail.aspx

$42


sort of interesting that a bottle of really good red wine sells for about the same as an ounce of silver.

that would be an interesting and fun thing to track - the least-expensive 94+ rated red wine / Silver ratio. ;D

Neuro
28th May 2011, 01:07 PM
Fortunately, red wine and coffee are significant sources of boron
Been thinking about stocking up on pre 2011 Red Wine, radiation free, shockfull of anti-oxidants, long shelf life, mood enhancer, good blood sugar profile, and contains boron!


may i suggest a 2007 Chateau Montelena Cabernet ...
http://www.wine.com/V6/Chateau-Montelena-Napa-Valley-Cabernet-Sauvignon-2007/wine/107357/detail.aspx

a little pricey at $48 but, sounds like it was a good year -
"When we talk about vintages at Montelena, they are often categorized as “hot” or “cool.” Then occasionally there are years like 2007 which, because of their ideal conditions, earn the tag of “Goldilocks” because everything was just right. Warm spring conditions led to earlier than normal bud break, while the moderate temperatures in summer and early fall further extended the growing season, resulting in long, slow ripening with fantastic flavor development and near-perfect juice chemistries."
94 Wine Advocate
93 International Wine Cellar

or, perhaps a Vinedos de Paganos El Puntido 2005, a Tempranillo (Spanish red wine made from a black grape) -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempranillo

http://www.wine.com/V6/Vinedos-de-Paganos-El-Puntido-2005/wine/107703/detail.aspx

$42

sort of interesting that a bottle of really good red wine sells for about the same as an ounce of silver.

that would be an interesting and fun thing to track - the least-expensive 94+ rated red wine / Silver
ratio. ;D

I was thinking more on the lines of buying up maybe a 1000 bottles of cheap but drinkable red wine, around $5-7 each... Same philosophy as to my silver buying. I am not paying premium for fancy or numismatic coins. But I'll trade your nice bottle of radiation protection for 2 bottles of radiation protection in a couple of years... ;D

gunDriller
28th May 2011, 01:11 PM
I was thinking more on the lines of buying up maybe a 1000 bottles of cheap but drinkable red wine, around $5-7 each... Same philosophy as to my silver buying. I am not paying premium for fancy or numismatic coins. But I'll trade your nice bottle of radiation protection for 2 bottles of radiation protection in a couple of years... ;D


Jeez, 1000 bottles - talk about stocking up !

i don't like paying retail myself.

also, my stomach does not like alcohol - even if i have food first. i suppose i could get some of the benefits just by drinking Grape Juice, maybe even Welch's grape juice - as long as it's real grape juice ?

Neuro
28th May 2011, 01:35 PM
I was thinking more on the lines of buying up maybe a 1000 bottles of cheap but drinkable red wine, around $5-7 each... Same philosophy as to my silver buying. I am not paying premium for fancy or numismatic coins. But I'll trade your nice bottle of radiation protection for 2 bottles of radiation protection in a couple of years... ;D


Jeez, 1000 bottles - talk about stocking up !

i don't like paying retail myself.

also, my stomach does not like alcohol - even if i have food first. i suppose i could get some of the benefits just by drinking Grape Juice, maybe even Welch's grape juice - as long as it's real grape juice ?
Unless it is the pasteurized grape juice you won't have that much of a shelf life. If it is pasteurized then you would not have the antioxidants, but I guess you would still have the boron in it. A bottle of wine last for many years, if you just store it cool. A cheap bottle will go over its peak quicker than expensive wine, but it will still be drinkable...

beefsteak
28th May 2011, 08:04 PM
Following your discussion, Neuro, & Gunny,

Trying to determine what MDAR for boron is. I'm finding "laxation threshold is 9mg per kg of weight."
But I can't verify yet who said it, what their source was, etc., if that is for males, females, mature, underage, over the hill, and in wine or just grapes. So, I'm on the trail.

I HAVE found warnings about Pregnant Women, Nursing Mothers, and those with Kidney problems, but don't know anymore than the fact that I've read these warnings, so I'm posting them.
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Did find a commercial product label which states it contains 3 capsules 1x per day provides:

Boron (amino acid chelated) 1500 mcg *
* Daily Value not established.
Recommended consumption is: 3 capsules 2 times per day.
It is combined in a primarily calcium/magnesium supplement product.

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Here's another "Boron Only supplement"

Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1 Capsule Amount Per Serving
Boron (as boron citrate, aspartate & glycinate) 3 mg†
† Daily Value not established.

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Statement made about use of boron:
Gluten Free

Three Forms of Boron
Citrate - Aspartate - Glycinate
For Enhanced Bioavailability*

Source Naturals (TM) TRIPLE BORON contains three bioavailable forms of the trace mineral boron, including one chelated form for enhanced delivery.

Current research suggests boron is a factor in maintaining strong, healthy bones partly due to its positive effects on vital components of the body's own bone maintenance cycles. Preliminary studies also suggest boron may play an important part in supporting prostate and joint health as well as cognitive function. *

Not too sure why boron helps when radioactivity already has gotten to the bones, but then I'm just beginning to research this.

Darned medical industry and their temple secrets, anyhow. I've never been much bothered by what I did NOT know about nutrition until 3/11 Fukushima.

Any assistance would be appreciated. That way, these guys wanting to calculate their stashed wine hoards would have something factual to work from.

I'm not up on wine stuff, so a helping hand is truly appreciated. I was raised a tee-totaler, so I'm at a researcher level only.

PS...got some heirloom taters planted t'day. Found a warehouse hoard of last years potting soil still in old bags. Figured while I was figuring out the hydroponics gig, I'd get the onions and taters started. I could live a LOOOOONG time on onions and taters! 'Maters are next. ;D

Saw my first green onion seed today. Ugly black looking little things in the store bot package. Had to explain to the wife what happens when hybrid seeds mature and make their own seeds. This is actually fun, figuring out this "inside gardening" thing.

Okay, Okay...back to Boron research for the cabernet' lovers amongst us.

beefsteak

beefsteak
28th May 2011, 08:13 PM
Speaking of research,

the other thing I'm trying to research is how to "purify contaminated soil" and how to know when it is cleaned up?

I posted about mustard grass and sunflowers. But how does one know "when we're done" and the radiation is gone? Anyone know of affordable testing labs, or is that a new growth industry now?

Questions always create more questions, y'know?

beefsteak

Neuro
28th May 2011, 09:52 PM
Here is some more information re Boron. According to this a bottle of red wine contains about 5 mg of Boron... But you can get the same amount if you eat about 10 oz of dried fruit and nuts.

http://www.lef.org/abstracts/codex/boron_index.htm

As I understand it Boron does some type of chelation of radioactive particles. But I need to find out more about this...

gunDriller
29th May 2011, 06:29 AM
Speaking of research,

the other thing I'm trying to research is how to "purify contaminated soil" and how to know when it is cleaned up?

I posted about mustard grass and sunflowers. But how does one know "when we're done" and the radiation is gone? Anyone know of affordable testing labs, or is that a new growth industry now?

Questions always create more questions, y'know?

beefsteak


my approach to this was to take advantage of a neighbor's sale on straw bales - $1 for a 60# bale from last year's harvest.

that's a good source of carbon for a compost pile. now i need some nitrogen. human urine, for example. human #2 mixed with cheap bagged soil is also great worm food.

anyway, i'm building one LARGE compost pile under an awning, to protect it from the rain.

following the same techniques outlined in some of the gardening threads - i collect the ingredients first, then assemble them when i have 6+ cubic yards - enough for the compost pile to heat up. (to about 130 F). it cools down after a few weeks, then i introduce redworms. if i've done my job right, same thing happens as happened with my compost piles in 2008/9 and 2009/10 winters - the worms multiply, the pile slowly gets smaller, and i end up with about 1 1/2 cubic yards of premium worm castings.

then mixing that with cheap bagged soil - bagged pre-Fukushima, that is. so far, i bought 2 bags that were on sale, the manufacturers wouldn't answer my questions about when it was bagged. so, next up, i buy some Supersoil (which is mostly wood chips), and see if they'll answer my questions.

etc. etc.

all of my land has been rained on. if it got irradiated in the process, i don't expect to use that soil for food. but it will still come in handy for growing biodiesel feed stock - sunflowers, peanuts, and pumpkins.

& until i learn how to measure the radiation & have the right instruments (i figure that SirGonzo420 will educate us, here or at G-S.us-CON 2012 ... that's a conference), i will assume that the local rain is radiation rain.

basically, it's just easier for me to make my own soil.

the hard part is telling some guests that the food that tastes so good was grown in home-made soil with human waste as a primary ingredient. :o

beefsteak
30th May 2011, 11:49 PM
Interesting, Gunny.

Not sure you are going to have to disclose your source of "composting materials...." unless you are planning to pass the collection cup, so to speak...

It is our plan to perform ongoing pruning and plant selection of the hydroponic veggies, wasting no organics from our efforts as we learn our lessons during this transition time, in our miniaturized hydroponics efforts. Also, based upon the information obtained and excerpted below, we hope to "process through a couple pet rabbits, their pellets, which are much different than human waste according to the home gardener sites we've been researching. Fertilizer "tea" should be able to be made from said processed veggie waste through Peter or Molly Cottontail.

beefsteak

beefsteak
31st May 2011, 12:03 AM
Nuclear War Survival Skills
http://www.oism.org/nwss



Ch. 9: Food

• MINIMUM NEEDS The average American is accustomed to eating regularly and abundantly....
• COOKING WITH MINIMUM FUEL In areas of heavy fallout,...
• GRAIN SUPPLEMENTED WITH BEANS People who live on essentially vegetarian diets eat a little of their higher-quality protein food at every meal,...


MINIMUM NEEDS
An average American is accustomed to eating regularly and abundantly. He may not realize that for most people food would not be essential for survival during the first two or three weeks following a nuclear attack. Exceptions would be infants, small children, and the aged and sick, some of whom might die within a week without proper nourishment. Other things are more important for short-term survival: adequate shelter against the dangers from blast and fallout, an adequate supply of air, and enough water.

The average American also may not realize that small daily amounts of a few unprocessed staple foods would enable him to survive for many months, or even for years. A healthy person if he is determined to live and if he learns how to prepare and use whole-grain wheat or corn can maintain his health for several months. If beans are also available and are substituted for some of the grain, the ration would be improved and could maintain health for many months.

The nutritional information given in this chapter is taken from a July, 1979 book, Maintaining Nutritional Adequacy During a Prolonged Food Crisis.** Integrating nutritional facts from worldwide sources needed to help unprepared people, it uses unaccustomed foods advantageously during the prolonged crisis that would follow a heavy nuclear attack. The practical know-how in this chapter regarding the expedient processing and cooking of basic grains and beans is based on old ways which are mostly unknown to modern Americans. These methods have been improved and field-tested by civil defense researchers at Oak Ridge National Laboratory.


LOSS OF HIGH-PROTEIN ANIMAL FOODS
A massive nuclear attack would eliminate the luxurious, complicated American system of food production, processing, and distribution. Extensive, heavy fallout and the inability of farmers to feed their animals would kill most of the cattle, hogs, and chickens--the basis of our high-protein diet. The livestock most likely to survive despite their owners' inability to care for them would be cattle on pasture. However, these grazing animals would swallow large numbers of fallout particles along with grass, and many would drink contaminated water.
Their digestive tracts would suffer severe radiation damage. Also, they’d suffer radiation burns from fallout particles. Thus --in an outdoor area where the total dose from gamma radiation emitted within a few days from fallout particles on the ground might be only 150 R-- most grazing animals probably would be killed by the combined effects of external GAMMA-ray radiation, Beta burns, and internal radiation.


PRECAUTIONS WHEN EATING MEAT
In areas where the fallout would not be enough to sicken animals, their meat would be safe food. In fallout areas, however, animals that have eaten or drunk fallout - contaminated food or water will have concentrated radio-active atoms and molecules in their internal organs. The thyroid gland, kidneys, and liver –these THREE most especially should not be eaten.

If an animal appears to be sick, it should not be eaten. The animal might be suffering from a sickening or fatal radiation dose and might have developed a bacterial infection as a result of this dose. Meat contaminated with the toxins produced by some kinds of bacteria could cause severe illness or death if eaten, even if thoroughly cooked.

Under crisis conditions, all meat should be cooked until it is extremely well done - cooked long past the time when it loses the last of its pink color. Make sure the center of each piece of meat is raised to boiling temperature,. The meat should be cut into pieces that are less than ½ -inch thick before cooking. This precaution also reduces cooking time and saves fuel.


SURVIVAL OF BREEDING STOCK
Extensive areas of the United States would not receive fallout heavy enough to kill grazing animals. The millions of surviving animals would provide some food and the fertile breeding stock needed for national recovery. The loss of fertility caused by severe radiation doses is rarely permanent. Extensive experiments with animals have shown that the offspring of severely irradiated animals are healthy and fertile.


LIVING ON BASIC PLANT FOODS
Even if almost all food-producing animals were lost, most surviving Americans should be able to live on the foods that enable most of the world's population to live and multiply: grains, beans, and vegetables. And because of the remarkable productivity of American agriculture, there usually would be enough grain and beans in storage to supply surviving Americans with sufficient food for at least a year following a heavy nuclear The problem would be to get the unprocessed foods, which are stored in food-producing regions, to the majority of survivors who would be outside these regions.

Surprisingly little transportation would be needed to carry adequate quantities of these unprocessed foods to survivors in famine areas. A single large trailer truck can haul 40,000 pounds of wheat enough to keep 40,000 people from feeling hunger pains for a day. More than enough such trucks and the fuel needed to carry basic foods to food-short areas would survive a massive nuclear attack. It is likely that reasonably strong American leadership and morale would prevail so that, after the first few weeks, millions of the survivors in starving areas should receive basic unprocessed foods.

Eating food produced in the years after a large attack would cause an increase in the cancer rate, due primarily to its content of radioactive strontium and cesium from fallout-contaminated soil. Over the first 30 years following an attack, this increase would be a small fraction of the number of additional cancer deaths that would result from external radiation. Cancer deaths would be one of the tragic, delayed costs of a nuclear war, but all together would not be numerous enough to endanger the long-term survival of the population.


LIVE OFF THE LAND?
Very few survivors of a heavy attack would be in areas where they could live off the land like primitive hunters and gatherers. In extensive areas where fallout would not be heavy enough to kill human beings, wild creatures would die from the combined effects 'of external gamma radiation, swallowed fallout particles, and beta burns on their bodies.

Survival plans should not include dependence on hunting, fishing, or gathering wild plants.


FOOD FOR SHELTER OCCUPANTS
Most people would need very little food to live several weeks; however, the time when survivors of blast and fallout would leave their shelters would mark the beginning of a much longer period of privation and hard manual labor. Therefore, to maintain physical strength and morale, persons in shelters ideally should have enough healthful food to provide well-balanced, adequate meals for many weeks.

In most American homes there are only enough ready- to-eat, concentrated foods to last a few days. Obviously, it would be an important survival advantage to keep on hand a two-week supply of easily transportable foods.

In any case, occupants of shelters would be uncertain about when they could get more food and would have to make hard decisions about how much to eat each day. (Those persons who have a fallout meter, such as the homemade instrument described in Chapter 10, could estimate when and for how long they could emerge from shelter to find food. As a result, these persons could ration their limited foods more effectively.)

During the first few weeks of a food crisis, lack of vitamins and other essentials of a well-balanced diet would not be of primary importance to previously well-nourished people. Healthful foods with enough calories to provide adequate energy would meet short-term needs.

If water is in short supply, high-protein foods such as meat are best eaten only in moderation, since a person eating high-protein foods requires more water than is needed when consuming an equal number of calories from foods high in carbohydrates.

beefsteak
31st May 2011, 12:10 AM
NHK Reports: 5/31/2011 JST



TEPCO begins live video stream from Fukushima

TEPCO has begun live-streaming video of the disabled Fukushima nuclear plant through the company's website.

The real-time footage comes from a camera installed about 250 meters northwest of the No.1 reactor.

The No.1 to No.4 reactors can be seen in the webcast.

TEPCO had until now been uploading still pictures shot from the southern side of the plant once every hour.

It began the video service on Tuesday in response to many requests for live images of the reactors.

Tuesday, May 31, 2011 12:50 +0900 (JST)

I can't see it, b/c it requires a plug-in I don't have plugged-in....
http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/f1-np/camera/index-j.html


If official TEPCO press releases are your thing, here they are:
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/index-e.html

beefsteak

beefsteak
31st May 2011, 12:14 AM
Not good news: F.#2 spent fuel pool


High radioactivity level at No. 2 reactor

The operator of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant says the radioactivity level and humidity are high in the Number 2 reactor building, which will make internal operations hard.

Workers entered the building last week to measure humidity and to gauge levels of radioactive substances in the atmosphere.

The results show the Number 2 reactor building's radioactive cesium level is twice as high as the cesium level in air not purified in the Number 1 reactor building. Steam is filling the Number 2 building, and humidity has reached 99.9 percent.

The high humidity means an air purification unit cannot be used to lower the level of radioactivity.

In order to cool the spent fuel storage pool that's causing the steam, TEPCO will put in place a heat exchanger on Tuesday to serve as a cooling system.

But TEPCO does not know how effective the system will be, so it will be a while before it can install the purifier to lower the radioactivity level.

Monday, May 30, 2011 07:04 +0900 (JST)
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/30_07.html

beefsteak

beefsteak
31st May 2011, 12:21 AM
comment found below above article posting w/r/t/ #2 reactor update.

Corollary Cesium Report from inside mountainous Japan:



COMMENTATOR'S NAME: Darth
May 30, 2011 at 5:58 am · Reply

High Levels Of Cesium Found 80 km Away In Mountain Snow

“On May 29, a private association of mountain lovers [in Fukushima], “Association for preserving the primal forests in Takayama Mountain”, announced the result of radiation analysis of snow samples taken from the mountains around Fukushima City in Fukushima Prefecture. High concentration of radioactive cesium was detected from snow samples taken below the altitude of 1,500 meters (4,921 feet), with the highest being 2,968 becquerels per kilogram from the sample taken on the east slope of Mount Minowa at 1,338 meters high. Radioactive cesium that exceeds the provisional national limit (500 becquerels per kilogram) has been detected from freshwater fish in the Abukuma river that runs through Fukushima City, and it is considered that radioactive cesium in fish comes from the water from melted snow.”

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/05/high-level-of-radioactive-cesium-from.html

beefsteak

beefsteak
31st May 2011, 12:54 AM
And the drip drip drip continues...or "when is a cold shutdown no longer a cold shutdown???"

This time about F#5:



Monday, May 30, 2011

Pump failure nearly brings No. 5 to a boil
Tepco installs backup unit 15 hours later for halted reactor

By REIJI YOSHIDA
Staff writer

The seawater pump in the cooling system for the Fukushima power plant's No. 5 reactor broke down Saturday evening, prompting repair crews to install a backup pump 15 hours later on Sunday afternoon, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said.

Tepco discovered the pump had stopped at 9 p.m. Saturday but didn't announce it to the public until Sunday morning.

The beleaguered utility said it notified the local and central governments of the situation on Saturday evening.

The seawater pump was set up after the reactor's original pumps were knocked out by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami. It was part of the critical Residual Heat Removal System that was later used to safely ease the reactor into a cold shutdown on March 20.

Unlike reactors 1 through 4, No. 5 is less at risk of meltdown because it was not damaged by hydrogen blasts as some of the others were and because workers managed to restore external power to its cooling system.

The pump had been taking in seawater for the RHRS's heat exchanger, which uses it to cool down fresh water being used to regulate the temperature of the reactor and its spent fuel pool.

The cause of the pump's failure was not immediately known but was likely caused by seawater fouling some of its parts, Tepco spokesman Junichi Matsumoto told a news conference Sunday morning.

By noon Sunday, the core had reached a temperature of 93.6 degrees and the fuel pool had reached 46 degrees, compared with 68 degrees and 41 degrees, respectively, at 9 p.m. Saturday.

The backup pump kicked in at 12:31 p.m., bringing the core back down to 83 degrees by 1 p.m., a Tepco spokeswoman said by phone later Sunday.

The temperature of the core must stay below 100 degrees to maintain cold shutdown status. Anything above might cause the water to evaporate and expose the fuel rods.

Tepco began setting up the backup pump at 8 a.m. Sunday. Matsumoto said Tepco didn't start until morning because the temperatures of both facilities were rising slowly and an emergency water-injection system was available for unit 5.

"We judged that it's better to wait for the morning, rather than to start working while it's dark. We didn't think it would pose any immediate danger," Matsumoto said.

"Even if the temperature (of the core) reaches 100 degrees, the alternative water-injection system is available," he said.

Still, Matsumoto admitted that "it might have been better" to notify the media sooner about the pump's failure.

Tepco is under fire for failing to disclose information fully and quickly since the nuclear crisis began on March 11. The quake and tsunami severely damaged units 1, 2, 3 and 4 at Fukushima No. 1, but Nos. 5 and 6 were already shut for regular inspections at the time of the disaster.


http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110530a1.html


Answered that long standing question of mine. There truly is no such thing as "cold shutdown." These mothers will be with us for thousands of years into the future. Planet-wide. Such foolishness.


beefsteak

beefsteak
31st May 2011, 12:59 AM
Interesting headline. I didn't know this about Chernobyl. Makes me wonder about 3MI as well. hmmm



Pneumonia cases “surge” in Japan’s Tohoku region — Frequency of pneumonia also increased after Chernobyl

http://enenews.com/pneumonia-cases-surge-japans-tohoku-region-frequency-pneumonia-increased-after-chernobyl


Suggest reading on individual basis. This is definitely attributed to LOW DOSE RADIATION exposure. Been there, done that with the pneumonia thing, both personally and with my youngsters many decades ago. This is disheartening to read.



excerpted:
Read the report: http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110420a4.html

The characteristics of the course of acute pneumonia in patients subjected to prolonged exposure to low doses of ionizing radiation as a result of the accident at the Chernobyl Atomic Electric Power Station, Lik Sprava (Russian) via National Center for Biotechnology Information, July 1992:


Abstract
Distinct changes in the clinical picture of acute pneumonia were noted in patients subjected to constant prolonged (1986-1990) effect of small doses of ionizing radiation as a result of residing in the contaminated territory after the Chernobyl atomic station disaster. These changes included increased duration of the disease, frequency of protracted forms, suppression of the immune system.
At the same time a general decrease of the incidence of acute pneumonia, increase of the frequency of severe cases of concomitant pathology indicate some stimulating effect of small doses of ionizing radiation on the body with a healthy immune system and suppressing effect on inadequately functioning immune system.
Changes of the clinico-laboratory indices of the course of acute inflammatory process depended on the duration of residing in the contaminated locality and to a lesser degree of the dose.


beefsteak

beefsteak
31st May 2011, 08:33 AM
GS-USers: Kamikazes have become visible.




31 May 2011 Last updated at 03:19 ET


Japan pensioners volunteer to tackle nuclear crisis
By Roland Buerk BBC News, Tokyo


Yasuteru Yamada said people from all walks of life were welcome to join the group

A group of more than 200 Japanese pensioners are volunteering to tackle the nuclear crisis at the Fukushima power station.

The Skilled Veterans Corps, as they call themselves, is made up of retired engineers and other professionals, all over the age of 60. They say they should be facing the dangers of radiation, not the young.

It was while watching the television news that Yasuteru Yamada decided it was time for his generation to stand up. No longer could he be just an observer of the struggle to stabilise the Fukushima nuclear plant. The retired engineer is reporting back for duty at the age of 72, and he is organising a team of pensioners to go with him.

For weeks now Mr Yamada has been getting back in touch with old friends, sending out e-mails and even messages on Twitter. Volunteering to take the place of younger workers at the power station is not brave, Mr Yamada says, but logical.

"I am 72 and on average I probably have 13 to 15 years left to live," he says.

"Even if I were exposed to radiation, cancer could take 20 or 30 years or longer to develop. Therefore us older ones have less chance of getting cancer." Mr Yamada is lobbying the government hard for his volunteers to be allowed into the power station. The government has expressed gratitude for the offer but is cautious.

Certainly a couple of MPs are supporting Mr Yamada. "At this moment I can say that I am talking with many key government and Tepco people. But I am sorry I can't say any more at this moment. It is on the way but it is a very, very sensitive issue politically," he said.

Certainly it is likely more workers will be needed.

The plant is still spewing radiation, nearly three months after an earthquake and tsunami knocked out its cooling systems, triggering explosions.

Its operator, Tepco, has now confirmed three of the reactors probably suffered meltdowns.

The plan is to bring the plant to a cold shutdown by January, although some experts believe that is overly optimistic.

To cope with the disaster Japan has raised the radiation exposure limit for emergency workers from 100 millisieverts to 250 millisieverts. But Tepco announced this week two workers at Fukushima might have already been exposed to more.

Kamikaze?
Many of Mr Yamada's veterans are retired engineers like him. Michio Ito Michio Ito is keen to swap his apron for a radiation suit

Others are former power station workers, experts in factory design - and even a singer and two cooks - Mr Yamada says they will be useful to keep his team amused and fed.

Michio Ito used to be a primary school teacher but is spending his retirement helping out in a cafe that offers work experience to people with learning difficulties. He is keen to swap his apron for a radiation suit. "I don't think I'm particularly special," he says. "Most Japanese have this feeling in their heart. The question is whether you step forward, or you stay behind and watch. "To take that step you need a lot of guts, but I hope it will be a great experience. Most Japanese want to help out any way they can."

Mr Yamada has already tried on his old overalls for size. He says he is as fit as ever - with a lifetime of experience to bring to the task.

And he laughs off suggestions his proposed team is comparable to the kamikaze pilots who flew suicide missions in World War II. "We are not kamikaze. The kamikaze were something strange, no risk management there. They were going to die. But we are going to come back. We have to work but never die." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13598607

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I'm glad the BBC picked up this story and flung it around the world. I'm grateful.

Politicially sensitive issues holding up accepting their help??? Say again? ? ? ? ? GEEEZE! Turn'em loose already!

beefsteak

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Serpo
31st May 2011, 08:52 AM
Speaking of research,

the other thing I'm trying to research is how to "purify contaminated soil" and how to know when it is cleaned up?

I posted about mustard grass and sunflowers. But how does one know "when we're done" and the radiation is gone? Anyone know of affordable testing labs, or is that a new growth industry now?

Questions always create more questions, y'know?

beefsteak


my approach to this was to take advantage of a neighbor's sale on straw bales - $1 for a 60# bale from last year's harvest.

that's a good source of carbon for a compost pile. now i need some nitrogen. human urine, for example. human #2 mixed with cheap bagged soil is also great worm food.

anyway, i'm building one LARGE compost pile under an awning, to protect it from the rain.

following the same techniques outlined in some of the gardening threads - i collect the ingredients first, then assemble them when i have 6+ cubic yards - enough for the compost pile to heat up. (to about 130 F). it cools down after a few weeks, then i introduce redworms. if i've done my job right, same thing happens as happened with my compost piles in 2008/9 and 2009/10 winters - the worms multiply, the pile slowly gets smaller, and i end up with about 1 1/2 cubic yards of premium worm castings.

then mixing that with cheap bagged soil - bagged pre-Fukushima, that is. so far, i bought 2 bags that were on sale, the manufacturers wouldn't answer my questions about when it was bagged. so, next up, i buy some Supersoil (which is mostly wood chips), and see if they'll answer my questions.

etc. etc.

all of my land has been rained on. if it got irradiated in the process, i don't expect to use that soil for food. but it will still come in handy for growing biodiesel feed stock - sunflowers, peanuts, and pumpkins.

& until i learn how to measure the radiation & have the right instruments (i figure that SirGonzo420 will educate us, here or at G-S.us-CON 2012 ... that's a conference), i will assume that the local rain is radiation rain.

basically, it's just easier for me to make my own soil.

the hard part is telling some guests that the food that tastes so good was grown in home-made soil with human waste as a primary ingredient. :o


Heard of bokashi,we use it and its great...http://www.bokashiman.com/

Serpo
31st May 2011, 08:58 AM
Who Will Take the Radioactive Rods from Fukushima?


Yoichi Shimatsu
Global Research
May 31, 2011
The decommissioning of the Fukushima 1 nuclear plant is delayed by a single problem: Where to dispose of the uranium fuel rods? Many of those rods are extremely radioactive and partially melted, and some contain highly lethal plutonium.

Besides the fissile fuel inside the plant’s six reactors, more than 7 tons of spent rods have to be removed to a permanent storage site before workers can bury the Fukushima facility under concrete. The rods cannot be permanently stored in Japan because the country’s new waste storage centers on the northeast tip of Honshu are built on unsuitable land. The floors of the Rokkasho reprocessing facility and Mutsu storage unit are cracked from uneven sinking into the boggy soil.

Entombment of the rods inside the Fukushima 1 reactors carries enormous risks because the footing of landfill cannot support the weight of the fuel rods in addition to the reactors and cooling water inside the planned concrete containment walls. The less reactive spent fuel would have to be kept inside air-cooled dry casks. The powerful earthquakes that frequently strike the Tohoku region will eventually undermine the foundations, causing radioactive wastewater to pour unstoppably into the Pacific Ocean. The rods must therefore go to another country.

American Bad Faith

Under the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), signed by Japan in 1970, Washington’s negotiators stipulated that used nuclear fuel from Japanese reactors must by law be shipped to the United States for storage or reprocessing to prevent the development of an atomic bomb. Washington has been unable to fulfill its treaty obligations to Tokyo due to the public outcry against the proposed Yucca Mountain storage facility near Las Vegas.

A panel convened by the Obama administration has just recommended the set up of a network of storage sites across the United States, a controversy certain to revive the anti-nuclear sentiments during the upcoming election campaign. The American nuclear industry has its own stockpile of more than 60,000 tons of spent fuel – not counting waste from reactors used for military and research purposes – leaving no space for Fukushima’s rods inside the Nevada disposal site, if indeed it is ever opened.

To Continental Asia

The Tokyo Electric Power Company (Tepco) has allocated 1 trillion yen ($12 billion) in funds for nuclear waste disposal. Areva, the French nuclear monopoly, has teamed up with Tepco to find an overseas storage site. So far, the Tepco-Areva team have quietly contacted three Asian countries – Kazakhstan, China and Mongolia — to set up a center for “reprocessing”, a euphemism for nuclear dump site.

Among the threesome, China was the top choice for the Japanese nuclear establishment, which has confidence in Beijing’s ability to safeguard nuclear secrets from its citizenry and even from the top leaders. Japan’s space agency, which keeps 24-hour satellite observation over every nuclear-related facility in China, possesses the entire record of radiation leaks there. Since Beijing withholds this sort of data from the public, the Japanese side felt it had the necessary leverage in talks with Chinese nuclear officials.

Though the nuclear-sector bureaucrats were initially eager to receive bundles of yen, the proposal was blown away by the salt craze that swept over China. Within a couple of weeks of the Fukushima meltdowns, millions of shoppers emptied supermarket shelves on rumors that iodized salt could prevent radiation-caused thyroid cancer. The Chinese public is rightfully fearful of health-related scandals after discoveries of melamine in milk, growth hormones in pork, pesticides in vegetables, antibiotics in fish and now radioactive fallout over farmland.

A nuclear disposal deal would require trucks loaded with radioactive cargo to roll through a densely populated port, perhaps Tianjin or Ningbo, in the dead of night. There is no way that secret shipments wouldn’t be spotted by locals with smart phones, triggering a mass exodus from every city, town and village along the route to the dumping grounds in China’s far west. Thus, the skittishness of the ordinary Chinese citizen knocked out the easiest of nefarious plans.

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Principle of Industrial Recovery

A more logical choice for overseas storage is in the sparsely populated countries that supply uranium ore to Japan, particularly Australia and Canada. As exporters of uranium, Canberra and Ottawa are ultimately responsible for storage of the nuclear waste under the legal principle of industrial recovery.

The practice of industrial recovery is already well-established in the consumer electronics and household appliances sectors where manufacturers are required by an increasing number of countries to take back and recycle used television sets, computers and refrigerators.

Under the principle, uranium mining giants like Rio Tinto and CAMECO would be required to take back depleted uranium. The cost of waste storage would then be factored into the export price for uranium ore. The added cost is passed along to utility companies and ultimately the consumer through a higher electricity rate. If the market refuses to bear the higher price for uranium as compared with other fuels, then nuclear power will go the way of the steam engine.

Australian and Canadian politicians are bound to opportunistically oppose the return of depleted uranium since any shipments from Fukushima would be met by a massive turnout of “not-in-my-backyard” protesters. The only way for Tokyo to convince the local politicos to go along quietly is by threatening to publish an online list of the bribe-takers in parliament who had earlier backed uranium mining on behalf of the Japanese interests.

Nuclear’s Cost-Efficiency

The question then arise whether nuclear power, when long-term storage fees are included, is competitive with investment in renewable energy such as wind, solar, hydro and tidal resources. Renewable energy probably has the edge since they don’t create waste. Natural gas remains the undisputed price beater wherever it is available in abundance. In a free market without hidden subsidies, nuclear is probably doomed.

In a lapse of professionalism, the International Atomic Energy Commission (IAEA) has never seriously addressed nuclear-waste disposal as an industrywide issue. Based on the ration of spent rods to reactor fuel inside U.S. nuclear facilities, there are close to 200,000 metric tons of high-level nuclear waste at the 453 civilian nuclear-energy plants worldwide. Yet not a single permanent storage site has ever been opened anywhere.

The Fukushima 1 dilemma shows that the issues of cost-efficiency and technological viability can no longer be deferred or ignored. Ratings agencies report that Tepco’s outstanding debt has soared beyond $90 billion, meaning that it cannot cover future costs of storing spent rods from its Kashiwazaki and Fukushima 2 nuclear plants. The Japanese government’s debt has soared to 200 percent of GDP. Neither entity can afford the rising cost of nuclear power.

The inability of Tepco or the government to pay for nuclear waste disposal puts the financial liability squarely on its partner companies and suppliers, including GE, Toshiba, Hitachi, Kajima Construction and especially the sources of the uranium, CAMECO and Rio Tinto and the governments of Canada and Australia. A fundamental rule of both capitalism and civil law is that somebody has to pay.

Last Stop

Since Australia and Canada aren’t in any hurry to take back the radioactive leftovers, that leaves Japan and treaty-partner United States with only one option for quick disposal- Mongolia.

Ulan Bator accepts open-pit mining for coal and copper, which are nothing but gigantic toxic sites, so why not take the melted-down nuclear rods? Its GDP, ranked 136 among the world’s economies, is estimated to be $5.8 billion in 2010. Thus, $12 billion is an unimaginable sum for one more hole in the ground.

Not that Mongolia would get the entirety of the budget, since the nuclear cargo would have to transit through the Russian Far East. Unlike the health-conscious Chinese, the population of Nakhodka or Vladivostok are used to playing fast-and-loose with radioactive materials and vodka.

Even if the mafia that runs the Russian transport industry were to demand a disproportionate cut, Mongolia’s 3 million inhabitants would be overjoyed at gaining about $2,000 each, more than the average annual income, that is if the money is divided evenly after the costs of building the dump.

Realistically, the Mongolian people are unlikely to receive a penny, since the money will go into a trust fund for maintenance costs. That’s because $12 billion spread over the half-life of uranium – 700 million years – is equivalent to $17 in annual rent. That doesn’t even cover kibble bits for the watchdog on duty, much less the cooling system. Not that anyone will be counting since by the time uranium decays to a safe level, fossils will be the sole remnant of human life on Earth.

Illusory, shortsighted greed will surely triumph in Mongolia, and that leaves a question of moral accountability for the rest of us. Will the world community feel remorse for dumping its nuclear mess onto an ancient culture that invented boiled mutton, fermented mare’s milk and Genghis Khan? For guilt-ridden diplomats from Tokyo and Washington wheedling the dirty deal in Ulan Bator, here’s the rebuttal: Did the national hero, the Great Khan, ever shed any tears or feel pangs of guilt? There’s no need for soul-searching. A solution is at hand.

Yoichi Shimatsu, former editor of the Japan Times Weekly, is a Hong Kong-based environmenthttp://www.prisonplanet.com/who-will-take-the-radioactive-rods-from-fukushima.html

beefsteak
31st May 2011, 10:00 AM
Thanks, Serpo!!

1).
How many applications are in the single container of the bokashi microbes? Only enough in his small container of microbes to treat a single (1) square bucket to be treated full? More than one square bucketfull? It looks like he just reached in with his hand, grabbed some and sprinkled it atop the organics. I like to measure things so that I get my money's worth out of every container I'm purchasing. What is your experience?

2)
And the "tea" that seeps through those holes in the top bucket....1 ml diluted to 20 liter = liquid fertilizer? Did I hear that correctly? That's a lot of liquid fert out of 1 ml. !!!

I'm thinking this might be a good addition to a hydroponics liquid fert anyhow system...

3)
...but if there are still live microbe cultures in the dilute tea waiting to be injected into a hydroponics system, wouldn't they start to "break down" the roots of the very plants I'm trying to grow hydroponically?

4)
Then when it is dumped into the garden after which a 1mo waiting period is required before planting into it, does it begin to smell badly then, now that it is non-containerized any longer?

So many questions, yes? Thanks for the headzup. Pickling vs Putrifying...smells appealing....hmmm

beefsteak
31st May 2011, 10:10 AM
Sadly, the world I suspect has been waiting on tinterhooks for another "F. explosion."

The eneNews link is quoting Reuters using the phrase: Reuters.jp translation: A nuclear explosion in the vicinity of Unit 4, Fukushima, Tokyo Electric Power No change in dose.

That's a bit different (sarcasm) than a ruptured underground tank explosion vis a vis mechanical equipment puncturing causality.

Not a subscriber to WSJ who is running the story, so I have nothing but the eNews headline and that excerpt.

Any further details would be welcomed. Anyone?


beefsteak

Serpo
31st May 2011, 03:44 PM
With the bokashi ,you buy a bag of it and sprinkle a couple of handfulls at a time on your scaps and mix with a stick in a bucket.Can collect the juice but we dont bother so can use standed bucket in that case.When bucket is full to the top as far as possible place lid on tightly and leave while you fill up other bucket.2 to 3 weeks and then empty onto garden and dig into soil,not much smell left and it breaks down really quickly once it hits the soil and turns the soil richer very fast.
Can get a liquid version which I have made once where you add organic molassis to a starter liquid and it ferments for a few days....maybe better for hydro.

check out some other web sites on bokashi to get overall feel for it ,but basically its very simple and works.

Serpo
31st May 2011, 03:51 PM
No biggy ,just an explosion at a NUCLEAR POWER REACTOR whats the big news .....its not on the news either of course......getting to be standed now ,not important just another EXPLOSION

Serpo
31st May 2011, 04:04 PM
Some more on the E-CAT



Cold Fusion #1 Claims NASA Chief

A Chief NASA scientist, Dennis Bushnell has came out in support of Andrea Rossi's E-Cat technology, but denies any type of nuclear fusion is taking place, saying it is probably beta decay per the Widom Larson Theory. Repackaging the terminology to avoid embarrassment will not erase over twenty years of suppression and the reality of cold fusion!



Dennis Bushnell; Source: NASA






by Hank Mills

Dennis Bushnell is a Chief scientist at NASA Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia. He is also an inventor, author, and has been a consultant to countless government and military agencies. A few of these include the DOD, Air Force, DARPA, and the NRC. To read a more complete summary of his background, a good review can be found here. Recently, he was interviewed during an EV World podcast.

During the show, he addressed what he called "Low Energy Nuclear Reactions" as being the most interesting and promising alternative energy technology being developed. In fact, it was first on his list, ahead of salt water agriculture, cyanobacteria, energy conservation, geothermal power, nano-plastic solar panels, solar thermal concentrators, and high altitude wind power.

"The most interesting and promising [technology sector] at this point ... [is] low energy nuclear reactions."

Bushnell went on to say that LENR technology could potentially solve all of our energy and climate problems. He stated the technology could be used for any application, including to power rockets for space travel. It is quite refreshing to hear such positive statements, in support of cold fusion, from a mainstream, credible, and respected scientist!

Actually, I cannot think of any other scientist off the top of my head, that I would have rather made a statement in support of LENR (cold fusion). His extensive scientific background, career history, and status as a Chief NASA scientist make his supportive statements very significant. Hopefully, they will inspire other scientists to take LENR research seriously! I would like to hear a naysayer like Bob Park (who has attacked cold fusion researchers for 20 years) try to criticize him for his comments.

During the interview, Bushnell specifically mentioned Andrea Rossi's E-Cat (Energy Catalyzer) technology, and seemed very supportive of it. He reviewed the tests that have been performed and the large amount of excess heat produced. At one point he made a remark scientists across the world should notice...

"I think we are almost over the "we do not understand it" problem. I think we are almost over the "this does not produce anything useful" problem. I think this will go forward fairly rapidly now. If it does, this is capable of, by itself, completely changing geo-economics, geo-politics, and solving climate issues."

Despite his positive statements about LENR, he also made a few statements that indicate his lack of ability to admit that nuclear fusion at low temperatures could be a reality. He stated that all of the so called, "cold fusion" experiments performed over the last twenty years did not produce fusion reactions. His position is that they produced energy via a process called "Widom Larsen" theory, that does not involve fusion at all, but only "beta decay."


They Dare Not Call It Fusion

Fusion is the process in which two atoms collide, merge or "fuse" together, and form another element. During the process, a large amount of energy is released. The problem is that achieving fusion can be difficult, due to electrostatic repulsion. This electrostatic wall that prevents fusion reactions is called the, "Coulomb Barrier." The star in the center of our solar system produces fusion reactions by using millions of degrees of heat. With enough heat, the atoms are smashing into each other with so much force the Coulomb Barrier can be broken. This is what mainstream scientists call "hot fusion."

Cold Fusion, is a phenomenon in which atoms can fuse together and release energy at much lower temperatures. Instead of millions of degrees, the reactions can take place at temperatures as low as a few hundred of degrees. Somehow, in cold fusion setups such as those of Andrea Rossi's, the Coulomb Barrier is apparently somehow being penetrated. There are many ideas and theories about the possible mechanisms that allows this barrier to be broken, allowing fusion reactions happen at such low energy levels.

Many of the theories have similar themes. Quite a few involve a proton from a hydrogen atom being made "invisible", being shielded, or made electrostatically neutral by an electron. In other theories, hydrogen atoms are shrunken and turned into mini-atoms or "virtual neutrons." Basically, in these theories the protons and their electrons (in some kind of altered form) do not experience the full repulsion of the Coulomb barrier, or are able to quantum tunnel through it. After they penetrate the barrier, a transmutation occurs in the metal (the atom gains a proton) and a large amount of energy is released. The end result is nuclear fusion at low temperatures.

The "Widom Larsen" theory is just another variation of the above. In the theory, an exotic type electron called a "heavy surface plasmon polariton" combines with a proton to form an, "ultra low momentum neutron." This neutron can then penetrate the Coulomb barrier of an atom of nickel (or other metal) to produce transmutations and release energy. Its proponents claim that this theory does not violate any "laws" of physics, and is not nuclear fusion.

However, I propose that "Widom Larsen" is a form of nuclear fusion, just like the other theories. The only difference is that it uses a few more fancy names for exotic sub atomic particles. Just like many of the other theories, the following set of events take place according to "Widom Larsen" theory.

- A shrunken or mini-hydrogen atom, virtual neutron, or a proton shielded by an electron sneak past the Coulomb barrier of another atom.

- A transmutation into a heavier element can take place.

- A large release of energy takes place.

This is indeed a fusion reaction, but the "Widom Larsen" proponents still try to argue otherwise. They claim that true "nuclear fusion" can only occur if a proton is pushed through the Coulomb barrier when the full repulsion is felt. Anything else, they claim, is a "neutron capture" event.

The first thing untenable about that is they claim an "ultra low momentum neutron" is composed of a proton and electron. If it is composed of a proton and electron (just pretending to be a neutron) how can it be a neutron capture event? For example, if I catch a dog dressed up like a cat, I really caught a dog. I did not really catch a cat! However, they want you to believe a dog dressed up like a cat, is really a cat!

The second thing untenable about their assertion is they claim that fusion cannot be taking place unless the full repulsion of the Coulomb barrier is felt. They go to the dictionary, and produce the following definitions.

- Neutron Capture involves a single particle, such as a neutron, with no electric charge entering a nucleus.

- Nuclear Fusion involves two nuclei having like-charges that overcome electromagnetic forces (the Coulomb barrier).

Basically, they try to claim that if you find a way to make a nuclei or proton sneak into another atom (without using lots of energy to bypass the Coulomb barrier) you have cheated, and you have not produced nuclear fusion.

For example, did you "climb" a wall if you used a ladder? The "Widom Larsen" supporters say you did not "climb" the wall unless you scaled it by hand! Using a ladder was cheating! According to them you did not climb the wall, but only "went over it."

They want to call your success something less than what it was, because you found a smarter/faster way to do it!

However, regardless how you got over the wall, the end result is the same. You are on the other side! The same is true with Cold Fusion and LENR (which they claim is only neutron capture and not fusion). The fact is, fusion happened regardless of the method by which you got the proton/electron/neutron into the atom's nucleus!

In reality, there may be some sort of Widom-Larsen "like" phenomenon taking place in Andrea Rossi's cold fusion technology, and others. However, I doubt that the entire theory is correct. To be blunt, I doubt any of the current cold fusion theories are 100% correct, but the seeming fact is fusion is occurring!

Any theory that claims that taking an atom, putting all or part of it into the nucleus of another atom, transmuting the second atom into another element, and releasing energy in the process is anything other than *some* kind of fusion, is total nonsense. It defies logic and rationality!


Hiding the Legacy of Suppression

The main reasons I think many mainstream scientists like Bushnell and the "Widom Larsen" supporters want to abolish the term Cold Fusion, deny the obvious truth fusion is taking place, and claim only LENR neutron capture is taking place is as follows.

First, they have to do "something" to make themselves "stand out." By shouting their "Widom Larsen" theory they can avoid the "stigma" of the term cold fusion, they can make it seem they have a special theory better than all the others, and they can claim they are not producing fusion at low temperatures (which is still heresy in their opinion).

Secondly, by naming the emerging technology "LENR" or "neutron capture", they can possibly avoid the history of cold fusion being brought up. If the history of cold fusion is brought up, it makes the mainstream scientific community look like a bunch of evil, greedy monsters and ignorant fools. Cold fusion has been suppressed for over 20 years, and they do not want the history of that suppression being a focus of the media's attention. They would rather give it a new name and a non-fusion explanation. That way, their dirty little secret can be kept hidden. The population of the world is going to be angry when they realize that we could have had practical cold fusion many years ago, if not for those who put their own interests ahead of the good of mankind!

Finally, if something as "impossible" as Cold Fusion becomes a reality, then it raises the question anew about what other technologies the scientific community deemed "impossible" might actually be possible after all. Anti-gravity, free energy, and faster than light space travel are all considered by the mainstream to be science fiction, but in the post cold fusion world that paradigm would be shattered (for political reasons more than scientific). By not using the term "Cold Fusion", it may be easier for the scientific community to down play the significance of this technology actually existing when they previously said it was impossible, claim that they never were involved in suppressing it, and convince the masses it does not represent damning proof of the failure of mainstream science on something so fundamental.


Andrea Rossi's Take On "Widom Larsen" Theory

Andrea Rossi's Energy Catalyzer technology apparently involves a nuclear reaction between nickel powder and hydrogen gas. Due to the fact that he has used both the terms "cold fusion" and LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions) to describe the technology, some "Widom Larsen" theory supporters have claimed it explains what is taking place in the E-Cat. However, Rossi has stated he now has an understanding of what exactly is taking place in his device, and that "Widom Larsen" theory does not explain it!

Yesterday, a contributor, Herald Patterson asked a series of questions relating to this issue on Andrea Rossi's Journal of Nuclear Physics blog; and Rossi answered them. The following is a composite of those two, with Rossi's responses indented in red.


Dear Mr. Rossi,

Thank you for refuting those two metropolitan legends. Unfortunately, there are other legends and unfounded rumors circulating around the internet as well. I will list a few of them here in case you would like to comment on them, and put an end to some ridiculous speculation that is taking place on the internet.

Thank you for your questions, here are the answers:

1) Other than the catalysts, hydrogen pressure, the special processing of the nickel powder, and the heat added to the system by the resistors there is some “other” factor that is critical to making the system work. For example, a source of radio frequency radiation to stimulate the processes inside the reactor vessel.

Yes: like Flash Gordon! Seriously: what happens inside the reactor is influenced only by what is inside; outside there is only cooling and thermalization.

2) No gamma radiation is actually produced inside of the reactor vessel. They claim you will not let independent scientists measure the gamma radiation inside the reactor *not* because the signatures detected could reveal the patent pending catalysts, but because no gamma radiation would be found.

Gamma have been regularly measured by us

3) No nickel is actually transmuted into copper. They try to connect this to the lack of gamma radiation, to support their idea that some extraordinary but totally *non-fusion* process is taking place.

Analysis of powders are the evidence of the transmutation

4) That you no longer think any form of fusion is taking place. They claim because you use the term Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, you non longer think a fusion reaction is taking place between the nickel and hydrogen.

Wrong

5) Others claim there is no radiation being produced, except from beta-decay. Some push this idea to support a pet theory they religiously proclaim all over the net called, “Widom Larsen” theory.

Beta decay has nothing to do with my process, Widom Larsen theory has nothing to do with my process

I wish people would just take you at your word, instead of trying to twist the truth to support their own pet theories and ideas.

If you wish to comment on any of the above, I will do my best to spread your answers on the net to counter act the rumor-mongering taking place.

Thank you for all your work and willingness to interact with us.

I’m looking forward to October!

I am looking for October too, my friend.

Herald

His answers make it clear that Widom Larsen theory does not have anything to do with his process, beta decay (a hallmark of Widom Larsen theory) does not have anything to do with his process, and gamma radiation has been measured routinely inside of his reactor. In fact, it is gamma radiation that is converted to heat!

In fairness, it is likely that a mechanism somewhat similar to "Widom Larsen" theory might be working inside of his reactor. One of his early papers hypothesized that a proton might be shielded by an electron, and be able to penetrate the Coulomb Barrier of a nickel atom. However, there are multiple theories that propose about the same thing, and any of them could be the "correct" one (or none of them might be 100% correct). Mini-atoms, virtual neutrons, protons shielded by electrons, and ultra low momentum neutrons (composed of exotic protons and electrons) are all similar concepts. There is absolutely nothing "special" about Widom Larsen theory, and no reason to think it is the "real" theory that explains what is taking place in his reactor. Of course the proponents of the theory will latch onto that idea with all their might, and try to ride on the coat tails of the E-Cat's success.

What the Widom Larsen supporters don't want you to realize, is that the terms LENR and Cold Fusion are the same concepts. They are nuclear fusion reactions that take place at low temperatures. Just because Rossi uses the term LENR, does not mean he does not think fusion reactions are taking place. In fact, he does! The possibility "weak" forces may exist between the hydrogen nucleus and the nickel nucleus (instead of the full force of the Coulomb barrier) does not mean anything. LENR still equals COLD FUSION!


Accepting Reality

The fact is that cold fusion technology is about to be commercialized. Andrea Rossi is planning on launching the first one megawatt plant in October, powering a E-Cat manufacturing facility. The first plant will be in Xanthi, Greece and soon afterwards a plant will open in the USA. This technology that has been mocked, attacked, slandered, ignored, and suppressed for over 20 years is about to be validated by the marketplace.

In my opinion, the sooner the scientific community confirms and acknowledges that this emerging technology is indeed *fusion* based, the better off we will be. Despite what you want to call the process, regardless your name for the particle that enters the nucleus of the nickel atom, and whatever your pet theory may be - a fusion reaction is taking place!

Proponents of Widom Larsen theory may cling to definitions in dictionaries and technicalities to dismiss the true fusion based nature of Andrea Rossi's technology and cold fusion in general, but the truth will not be hidden! The world is about to wake up, and the powers that be and the scientific community are about to reap what they sowed.

Twenty years of suppression for the protection of ego, greed, wealth, and tyrannical control of humanity will not be forgotten! Too many lives have been lost, too much environmental destruction has occurred, and technological progress has been hindered for too long.

The PEOPLE are going to take back their POWER!

# # #

http://pesn.com/2011/05/31/9501837_Cold-Fusion_Number-1_Claims_NASA_Chief/

gunDriller
31st May 2011, 06:27 PM
Sadly, the world I suspect has been waiting on tinterhooks for another "F. explosion."

The eneNews link is quoting Reuters using the phrase: Reuters.jp translation: A nuclear explosion in the vicinity of Unit 4, Fukushima, Tokyo Electric Power No change in dose.

That's a bit different (sarcasm) than a ruptured underground tank explosion vis a vis mechanical equipment puncturing causality.

Not a subscriber to WSJ who is running the story, so I have nothing but the eNews headline and that excerpt.

Any further details would be welcomed. Anyone?

beefsteak


well, it was Memorial Day weekend.

there were hamburgers to grill, beer to drink, and Arnold's latest soap opera to discuss ... it's now coming out that he used Cal. State Police to provide security (in an expanded sense) for various escort services that he used (no male prostitutes though.) :sarc:

i'm finding articles about a fourth explosion at Fukushima #4 - but back in March - on March 15.

http://rt.com/news/officials-explosion-fukoshima-claims/

"A fourth explosion has rocked the Fukushima nuclear plant on Tuesday at Unit 4 at the facility, the Japanese Kyodo news agency reports. The agency also reported high levels of radiation at Unit 3, which was hit by a blast on Monday."

tried the web-search, but nothing other than that about Unit 4.
http://www.google.com/search?q=nuclear+explosion+Unit+4+Fukushima


i found this at ENE news, May 23,
http://enenews.com/siemens-reactor-no-4-spent-fuel-pool-cracked-from-earthquake-not-tsunami-fairewinds-video
"Reactor No. 4 spent fuel pool cracked from earthquake"


http://peakoil.com/enviroment/tepco-now-admits-that-three-fukushima-reactors-have-melted-large-holes-present-in-containment-vessels/

a good article at PeakOil.com ...
"TEPCO now admits that three Fukushima reactors have melted, large holes present in containment vessels"


out here in real life, there is no under-playing the urgent-ness of it.

i find the lack of information itself to be instructional. almost like they're hiding something ?

the most recent "oh-shit" thing that i've heard is that some of the containment vessels are Swiss cheese, hundreds of breaches, hundreds of holes.

so when they use water to cool it, it just comes out.

i think there assumption that the ocean is infinite is very un-wise. i don't know how many gallons a day on average of radiation water they are dumping into the ocean - enough to cool X Megawatts of reactor core.


Before these puppies melted down, what was the power output of the Fukushima complex, in kilowatts or megawatts or gigawatts - anybody know ?

that would yield a rough idea of how much energy is needed to cool it. there's only so much heat water can absorb, up to near the boiling point of water. they're starting with water at about sea-water temp, 60 degrees F.

in metric, from about 15 degrees C to about 95 degrees C, that's how much they are heating the water. i kilogram of water heated 80 degrees C would absorb 1000x80 joules = 80,000 watt-seconds.

each day a 100 megawatt reactor would put out 8,640,000 million watt-seconds ... so they would need 108,000,000 kilograms of water to cool it.

237,600,000 pounds = 29,700,000 gallons ==> Each Day.

that's how much water they need to cool a heat-source that is putting out 100 megawatts.

it's more complicated than that, to get out 100 megawatts, they need a heat source that generates more than 100 megawatts (because it's not perfectly efficient).

of course, we don't know how much heat the reactor masses are putting out now, compared to their normal operating condition.


to be honest, i think those reactors were bigger than 100 megawatts.

just as a point on a curve, if they are water cooling the reactors they would be dumping 30 million gallons a day into the ocean for each reactor.


as a short term solution, water cooling is better than the thing blowing sky-high, but in the long term, it leads to the un-thinkable. 6 reactors for 6 months, 180 days.

32,400 million gallons to cool 6 reactors for 6 months if each reactor mass is imparting 100 megawatts to the cooling water mass.

32 Billion Gallons to cool 6 reactors for 6 months.


i can only do so much math at once. 8)

Serpo
31st May 2011, 07:14 PM
Old news isnt it but where is it now.....

Russia ready to dispatch radiation processing vessel to Japan
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TRENDS: Earthquake in Japan Fukushima nuclear disaster

TAGS: Ecology, Natural disasters, Nuclear, Russia, Japan

Russia is ready to send a unique vessel which can process radioactive liquid to Japan, the ship’s captain announced. This comes as another powerful earthquake hit the country’s northeast, leading to a radioactive spill at one of the nuclear plants.

As a result of a new earthquake which occurred on Thursday and measured 7.4 on the Richter scale, over three liters of radioactive water spilled from the spent fuel storage pool at reactor 2 of Onagawa nuclear facility. The water has reportedly spilled onto the floor at the building.

Onagawa facility operator Tohoku Electric Power Co. announced that the quake also damaged pressure-controlling devices inside the facility. No change of radiation outside the plant was reported.

As Japan continues to be shaken by a series of aftershocks following the powerful earthquake that hit the country on March 11, Russia announced that a special factory to process liquid radioactive waste, the “Landysh”, is ready to deploy to Japan at any moment.

The factory is used in Russia to service Russian Pacific Fleet submarines and in 10 years of work it has processed over 5,000 tons of radioactive waste. It was constructed as part of a nuclear disarmament partnership program between Russia and Japan using Japanese budget money.

In light of the recent events in Japan, the work of the Landysh has evoked serious interest among the Japanese authorities. The Japanese government made a request to the Russians to consider Japanese use of the facility at the troubled Fukushima power plant.

Two major Japanese news outlets, Kyodo news agency and NHK television, visited the Landysh on Friday in order to see how the facility works. The journalists had a chance to talk to the crew of the unique vessel.

The factory is placed on a barge, which can be carried to any necessary place. It is currently based at the town of Bolshoy Kamen in the Russian Far East. The waste processing part of the plant is hidden inside a concrete cocoon, which prevents the waste from getting into the water.

A Russian nuclear energy agency “Rosatom” spokesman announced earlier that if the Japanese side is satisfied with the technical characteristics of the plant, it can be sent to Fukushima shortly.

Experts believe that the Landysh can be used to process radioactive water, which has filled a number of the Fukushima plant’s premises and drainage system. According to earlier reports, tens of thousands of tons of radioactive water had collected in the plant’s systems. The radioactive water is due to be collected in special cisterns.

The Landysh has the capacity to process 7,000 cubic meters of liquid radioactive waste a year. The water can then even be used to breed fish. The factory, however, can only rework waste of low and medium radioactivity.

*When making the decision to build nuclear facilities in Japan’s territory, the country’s authorities ignored the seismic situation in the region, Philip White from the Citizen's Nuclear Information Center told RT.

“When Japan went into nuclear energy, say, when they first set up a policy about 50 years ago and they actually started implementing it by bringing nuclear power plants 40 year ago – at that stage they really were determined to go ahead. Any inconvenient information, like the vulnerability of plants to earthquakes, the fact that the ground location was unstable – that sort of information was suppressed right from the very beginning,” he said.
http://rt.com/news/japan-fukushima-earthquake-russia-landysh/

Neuro
31st May 2011, 10:21 PM
The Landysh has the capacity to process 7,000 cubic meters of liquid radioactive waste a year. The water can then even be used to breed fish. The factory, however, can only rework waste of low and medium radioactivity.I think this is the very reason we never saw or heard about it again...

beefsteak
31st May 2011, 10:25 PM
For the long suffering MSFT/Windows users: a better link has been found for watching Fukushima Live.
It comes in FLV format through Win Media Player. Resolution isn't too bad either.

Now, help me with this desktop problem: USA Wunderground in one window, Skype in one window, Fukushima in one window, TV in one window, Live G/S quotes one window, and FREE CELL or Majong in one window. How'm I s'posta get any work done or check/reply to emails? :sun:

Here's the FUKUSHIMA LIVE link at least Mr. All Thumbs here can get into... I can tell it's at least live if not a wee bit time delay, who knows....the foliage in the foreground is moving in the sea breezes if you look carefully enough. Then again, it could be a "clever loop" I'm not tech savvy enough to tell. :oo-->


Use VLC and open network stream on
http://mfile.akamai.com/127380/live/reflector:51361.asx?bkup=52045&prop=a (http://mfile.akamai.com/127380/live/reflector:51361.asx?bkup=52045&prop=a)

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PREVIOUS POSTING W/R/T this live camera gig from Earlier Tuesday AM....



NHK Reports: 5/31/2011 JST



TEPCO begins live video stream from Fukushima

TEPCO has begun live-streaming video of the disabled Fukushima nuclear plant through the company's website.

The real-time footage comes from a camera installed about 250 meters northwest of the No.1 reactor.

The No.1 to No.4 reactors can be seen in the webcast.

TEPCO had until now been uploading still pictures shot from the southern side of the plant once every hour.

It began the video service on Tuesday in response to many requests for live images of the reactors.

Tuesday, May 31, 2011 12:50 +0900 (JST)

I can't see it, b/c it requires a plug-in I don't have plugged-in....
http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/f1-np/camera/index-j.html


If official TEPCO press releases are your thing, here they are:
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/index-e.html

beefsteak

beefsteak
1st June 2011, 12:19 AM
How disingenuous can Japanese govt get? This is a Wed leading story: Japan Time:



Japan urges tougher sanctions on N.Korea

Japan has called on other governments to fully implement the UN sanctions on North Korea.

Japan made the appeal on Tuesday at a seminar in New York that was sponsored by the Japanese government. Ambassadors and other diplomats from more than 50 countries, mostly developing nations, attended the seminar.

The UN sanctions ban exports of nuclear-related technology and luxury goods to North Korea, but a recent unpublished UN report says there are many loopholes in the sanctions.

At the seminar, Japan's UN Ambassador Tsuneo Nishida called on other governments to implement the sanctions in a steady manner, fully inspecting cargo related to North Korea.

He also expressed Japan's readiness to help other governments improve their laws and strengthen customs functions as part of the efforts to tighten the monitoring regime.

NHK's New York correspondent says some participants at the seminar welcomed Japan's support but others indicated there are limits to achieving the full implementation of the sanctions.

Wednesday, June 01, 2011 09:24 +0900 (JST)

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/01_17.html

Unbelievable...


beefsteak

Serpo
1st June 2011, 03:12 AM
How disingenuous can Japanese govt get? This is a Wed leading story: Japan Time:



Japan urges tougher sanctions on N.Korea

Japan has called on other governments to fully implement the UN sanctions on North Korea.

Japan made the appeal on Tuesday at a seminar in New York that was sponsored by the Japanese government. Ambassadors and other diplomats from more than 50 countries, mostly developing nations, attended the seminar.

The UN sanctions ban exports of nuclear-related technology and luxury goods to North Korea, but a recent unpublished UN report says there are many loopholes in the sanctions.

At the seminar, Japan's UN Ambassador Tsuneo Nishida called on other governments to implement the sanctions in a steady manner, fully inspecting cargo related to North Korea.

He also expressed Japan's readiness to help other governments improve their laws and strengthen customs functions as part of the efforts to tighten the monitoring regime.

NHK's New York correspondent says some participants at the seminar welcomed Japan's support but others indicated there are limits to achieving the full implementation of the sanctions.

Wednesday, June 01, 2011 09:24 +0900 (JST)

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/01_17.html

Unbelievable...


beefsteak



Yes nuclear sanctions on NK by Japan(the experts) :sun: :ROFL:

gunDriller
1st June 2011, 05:15 AM
Japan urges tougher sanctions on N.Korea

Japan has called on other governments to fully implement the UN sanctions on North Korea.

Unbelievable...

beefsteak


Yes nuclear sanctions on NK by Japan(the experts) :sun: :ROFL:


they know how bad it can get. they don't want to happen to their special friend :sarc:

i would say, "land of the rising Israel" - BUT - Israel was on the receiving end of the Talmud-worshippers' nuclear experiments in August 1945.

it wasn't enough to test a uranium bomb on the Japanese (Hiroshima) - no the Talmud-worshippers had to try a plutonium bomb too (Nagasaki).

of course, the war was almost over, so the US had to scramble to test their new war toyz while the war was still going on. an early surrender by Japan would have really mucked up the US/Israeli nuclear program.

Serpo
1st June 2011, 03:18 PM
Its OK ,relax, the Japs have discovered how to protect their children.................... :conf:




Long sleeve uniforms urged in Fukushima

Some schools near the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant are urging that children continue to wear long-sleeves in summer, to limit their exposure to radioactive fallout.

The schools issued the advice on Wednesday, the day many students switch to summer uniforms. The move is a response to parents' concerns about radioactivity.

Radiation exceeding levels permitted by the government has been found at some schools in Fukushima Prefecture. The schools have been removing topsoil in their playgrounds and limiting outdoor activities.

At Koken Junior High School in Koriyama city on Wednesday, almost no students were seen wearing short-sleeves.

The school says students can choose to wear their long-sleeved gym wear or the long-sleeved summer uniform.

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/01_22.html

mike88
1st June 2011, 04:31 PM
While in infantry basic training, the instructors claimed our nylon poncho would be effective during nuclear attack.

beefsteak
1st June 2011, 05:19 PM
Hi, Mike88,

Did you believe them?

Anything special about what Army Nylon Ponchos are treated with or the denier of the ripstop nylon?

Interesting! Thanks for your post.


beefsteak

beefsteak
1st June 2011, 05:25 PM
Its OK ,relax, the Japs have discovered how to protect their children.................... :conf:

Long sleeve uniforms urged in Fukushima

Some schools near the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant are urging that children continue to wear long-sleeves in summer, to limit their exposure to radioactive fallout.

The schools issued the advice on Wednesday, the day many students switch to summer uniforms. The move is a response to parents' concerns about radioactivity.

Radiation exceeding levels permitted by the government has been found at some schools in Fukushima Prefecture. The schools have been removing topsoil in their playgrounds and limiting outdoor activities.

At Koken Junior High School in Koriyama city on Wednesday, almost no students were seen wearing short-sleeves.

The school says students can choose to wear their long-sleeved gym wear or the long-sleeved summer uniform.

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/01_22.html


Serpo,
The "spin cycle" of these kinds of pablum stories both breaks my heart and chaps my hide, all at the same time. These quota-filling free-lance writers never just how the children's parents are supposed to wash these clothes when water and soap and baking soda are in such short supply?

Or how the "municipalities" are supposed to be treating the radioactive waste water from all those long-sleeved summer shirts?

Thinking back a spell, I do recall seeing war photos of adults permanently "atomic flash-burned" from hiding behind a flowering cherry tree, or wearing garments that had decorations built into them. The flash from Hiroshima/Nagasaki permanently burned into their skins such fabric designs or the shadows cast by the tree branches behind which they instinctively sought cover. An atomic tattoo, if you please.

One of those permanent "wrinkles" in my visual memory banks. Perhaps as good as BOOK is with his/her pictures gallery, one of those photos can be dug up and posted. I'll sure know it if I see it again, altho' it has been several decades as I recall since I first viewed those photos.

beefsteak

Serpo
1st June 2011, 11:54 PM
Good VID....

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/05/31/exp.arena.japan.nuclear.melt.cnn?iref%3Dallsearch

Serpo
1st June 2011, 11:55 PM
Wednesday, June 1, 2011
An Angry Japanese Housewife in Fukushima City: "We've Had It, and We're Leaving"

Mrs Watanabe is taking her two daughters and heading out of Fukushima City after precious little has been done by the city to protect children from radiation that is much, much higher than officially reported.

In Japan, for the past two and a half months, parents like her were ridiculed, and often scolded, for "overreacting" over "nothing". Or worse, they were called "traitors" for leaving the contaminated areas not just by their fellow Japanese but even by some foreigners living in Japan.

Not any more, it seems (or so I hope), as the extent of radiation contamination is slowly being revealed, and more people now know that the Japanese government hid the data about radiation and chose to expose people to radiation without telling them for the fear of "causing panic".

Watanabe says to the NPR reporter Louise Lam that "Its our fault, we put the current DPJ government in power. We thought they'd be different from the last lot. But now it turns out we no longer know whether any political party out there will protect us. "

Audio link to the news is here: http://pd.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/me/2011/06/20110601_me_12.mp3?dl=1

Transcript from NPR Morning Edition this morning (6/1/2011; emphasis added):




And in Japan these days, people don't really trust the government over how it's handled the nuclear crisis created by the tsunami. Distrust is especially high, the closer you get to the stricken nuclear plant.

As NPR's Louisa Lim reports from the city of Fukushima, anger has focused on the emotional issue of children's safety.

Ms. KAYO WATANABE: (Japanese language spoken)

LOUISA LIM: As she drives round Fukushima, Kayo Watanabe points out the radiation hotspots. She knows which street used by kids going to school has above-normal radiation levels, which school gutter has radiation levels 60 times that considered safe. Shes been measuring radiation levels herself for a while.

She says she doubted the official line from the beginning - back in March when the very first blast happened at the Fukushima nuclear plant, almost 40 miles away.

Ms. WATANABE: (Through Translator) We havent believed the government from the start. When the explosion happened, they didnt say anything about it being dangerous. We dont trust the media, either, since the nuclear plant operator sponsors many newspapers and television stations.

(Soundbite of chatter in foreign language)

LIM: Were speaking at a kind of homework center, where kids gather after school. She has two children of her own girls aged two and nine. She was alarmed to discover local milk from near the nuclear plant being served at her daughters school. For more than two months, shes kept the kids cooped up inside, for fear of exposing them to radiation.

Now shes decided shes had enough. In two weeks, shell move with her kids to another town eighteen miles further from the nuclear plant, while her husband will stay behind for his job.

Ms. WATANABE: (Through Translator) We did discuss what would be better - to stay together or whether we should live apart from each other. But we decided we couldnt live our lives not knowing what the medical dangers were. So we decided to leave.

LIM: At Hirano Middle School, class is beginning. One major issue here has been how to decontaminate school playgrounds to get rid of any topsoil that could harbor radiation. At a school meeting with parents, the mood is testy.

(Soundbite of Japanese language spoken)

LIM: Why has Fukushima been the slowest, one parent asks. Other towns have already acted why are we the last? In fact, national policy on this was only announced on Friday. But many other cities had acted preemptively.

Unidentified Man (Education Official): (Foreign language spoken)

LIM: The education official replies that work will begin straight away. The plan is to dig up two inches of irradiated topsoil, which will then be buried 20 inches below the surface. Why just two inches? The parents ask. Because thats what were doing seems to be the answer.

(Soundbite of beeping monitor, shouting in Japanese)

LIM: After the meeting, a few angry locals brandishing their own radiation monitor surround the officials. They fear the radiation levels are higher than is being reported. Their anger is barely suppressed, which is unusual in Japan, where politeness is almost an art form. Afterwards, education official Yoshimasa Kanno admits he understands their frustration.

Mr. YOSHIMASA KANNO (Education Official): (Through Translator) It seems to be the case that parents are angry that two months have passed since the disaster. Its been pointed out that the response by the city government and the national government, for protecting children, has been slow.

LIM: The next morning, and construction equipment finally arrives at the school. Such action has come too late for Kayo Watanabes family.

Ms. WANTANABE: (Foreign language spoken)

LIM: Shell also be leaving behind her parents. Like the silent majority here, they are getting on with their lives as normal, growing vegetables and planting flowers in the garden. Her mother Takako Watanabe suffers from kidney disease, she says she wont leave.

Ms. TAKAKO WATANABE: (Through Translator) My hospital, my medical treatment, theyre all here, so I cant leave. But Ill miss the grandchildren.

LIM: As for Kayo, she seems to have lost faith in Japans ruling class. Its our fault, she says, we put the current DPJ government in power. We thought theyd be different from the last lot. But now it turns out we no longer know whether any political party out there will protect us.

Louisa Lim, NPR News, Fukushima, Japan.
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/06/angry-japanese-housewife-in-fukushima.html

Neuro
2nd June 2011, 03:33 AM
While in infantry basic training, the instructors claimed our nylon poncho would be effective during nuclear attack.
That is funny, my dad was told the same thing during his military training in Sweden in the early 60's...

mike88
2nd June 2011, 11:05 AM
The fellows in the squad came to the conclusion that the nylon poncho would make it easier for graves registration to collect your remains, kinda like a seal a meal. ;D

Serpo
2nd June 2011, 01:59 PM
Should be good for silver (used in solar panels)

The ongoing tragedy of Japan’s Daichi Fukshima nuclear complex will prove to be a boon for renewable energy in Japan, and astute investors should begin carefully to follow Tokyo’s new priorities.

Before the March 11 twin disasters of a massive earthquake followed by a devastating tsunami, about 30 percent of Japan’s electricity was generated by nuclear power, and Tokyo had ambitious plans to raise its market share to 50 percent over the next two decades, with renewable accounting for 20 percent, Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan told journalists earlier this month.

That optimistic policy is now in tatters, and Kan added, "However (following Fukushima), we now have to go back to the drawing board and conduct a fundamental review of the nation's basic energy policy."

Kan is now touting the government's “Sunrise Project,” which has been moribund for the last seven years. The goal of the Sunrise Project is to reduce the cost of solar power over the decade to a third of current levels and to one-sixth by 2030 as an incentive for more people to install it.

At the 50th anniversary of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development in Paris Kan told reporters, "Japan will now review its basic energy plan from scratch and is set to address new challenges."

The scale of the government’s turn away from nuclear and fossil fuel power is extraordinary, as currently renewable energy resources, such as solar and wind, only make up about 1 percent of Japan's total power supply. Even with hydropower, the ratio is about only 9 percent.

According to China Business the earthquake and tsunami halted production at most of Japan’s giant solar power companies, including Kyocera, Sharp and Sanyo because of the subsequent lack of electricity. Prior to the earthquake China and Japan essentially shared the European photovoltaic (PV) market; since the earthquake analysts predict that Japan will lose one quarter of its market share.

The shift has already started, as The Nikkei business daily reported on Wednesday that Softbank Corp, Japan's third-largest mobile phone operator, has announced plans to assist in the construction of about ten 20-megawatt facilities, costing about 8 billion yen ($100 million) each. But, as in many Western countries dominated by the nuclear and oil industries, solar energy policies have up to now enjoyed fitful support in Japan, where pioneers such as Sharp Corp and Kyocera Corp have lost their lead to overseas rivals that received larger subsidies and lower production costs. Furthermore, the cost of solar panel installation in Japan is double that in Germany.

So, who will be one of the major beneficiaries of this policy shift towards reducing solar costs?

China, surprise surprise.

China now has over 400 PV companies and now produces approximately 23 percent of photovoltaic products used worldwide. Three years ago China produced 1,700 megawatts of solar panels, nearly half of the world production of 3,800 MW, of which 99 percent were exported. According to Huang Xinming, head of a research institute at JA Solar, a large Chinese solar power company, JA Solar has just developed a new technology that could cut the cost of producing silicon, an important material in manufacturing solar panels, by 60 percent.

Expect to see a flood of yen into China’s PV industries; smart Western investors will head east as well, where the sun always rises.

By. Dr. John C.K. Dalyhttp://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Renewable-Energy/The-Fukushima-Cloud-s-Green-not-Silver-Lining.html

Serpo
2nd June 2011, 02:00 PM
The fellows in the squad came to the conclusion that the nylon poncho would make it easier for graves registration to collect your remains, kinda like a seal a meal. ;D


Built on body bag......nice


new headline....

Nuclear engineers urging IAEA to create “Level 8″ on INES scale for Fukushima

http://enenews.com/nuclear-engineers-urging-iaea-to-create-level-8-on-ines-scale-for-fukushima

gunDriller
2nd June 2011, 02:41 PM
Should be good for silver (used in solar panels)

The ongoing tragedy of Japan’s Daichi Fukshima nuclear complex will prove to be a boon for renewable energy in Japan, and astute investors should begin carefully to follow Tokyo’s new priorities.


very good point ... PV in Japan increases demand for physical silver.

which is a damn good deal for today's price, $36.15 an ounce.

Japan also is perfectly situated for OTEC, where they use cold water from deep water canyons to generate electricity.

they should be the world leader in OTEC, given their high-tech prowess & location near some of the Pac. Ocean's deepest & coldest trenches.


but Japan is wrong if they think they can't do nuclear power.

they just have to be honest & listen to their engineers. when some nuclear engineer resigns in protest, they should hire him to co-direct their nuclear effort, that's the kind of engineer you need in charge of nuclear.

instead they promoted yes-men & accountants, and built 6 nuclear reactors at sea-level in one of the world's most fertile earthquake/tsunami factories.

beefsteak
2nd June 2011, 02:53 PM
gunny,
you have confused me now. Sounds like you're promoting nuclear energy production under "xyz construction circumstancs"...is that what you're saying now? What's changed? I think I'm missing something.


beefsteak

beefsteak
2nd June 2011, 03:06 PM
With the bokashi ,...check out some other web sites on bokashi to get overall feel for it ,but basically its very simple and works.


Serpo,
while studying up on bokashi, it occurred to me that one can ambient air dry--say utilizing the radiant head of the sun, or even directing the exhaust of window air conditioners as heat sourcing. Either of these would reduce the volume and moisture content of vegetative waste. Reducing moisture content not only reduces weight, and smell, heat will render the veggie matter brittle and easily crushed into powder. Then microbes already in soil would be able to use this as soil amendment, preserving the non-radioactive material as new soil for hydroponic or postage stamp gardeners of city window farms, etc.

A further benefit would be reduced volume, a.k.a., reduced actual footprint of stored, now dried veggie waste.

This would reduce bokashi expenditures for only when one sees a need for such a system. Sun is free, bokashi isn't.

Still trying to find out if there is any "measuring of bokashi microbes" needing done. Haven't received any responses to that question yet.

Thanks again.

beefsteak

gunDriller
2nd June 2011, 06:39 PM
gunny,
you have confused me now. Sounds like you're promoting nuclear energy production under "xyz construction circumstancs"...is that what you're saying now? What's changed? I think I'm missing something.


beefsteak


i don't think nuclear energy is inherently bad. i think it's a very useful tool.

you just have to have adults managing all aspects of the process, from mining the ore to building the reactors to managing the waste.

so that leaves out most nations ... it leaves out Israel & the US for sure.

as it turns out, Japan was also not adult enough to manage nuclear energy using uranium & MOX as fuel.


the Finnish & the French, i think, have much better safety records. however, i have not studied their nuclear plants so i don't know if they're safe because they're lucky, or if perhaps they're an accident waiting to happen.

Germany seems to realize the seriousness of the technology.


in general, it's a technology where you have to be fanatical about safety, human health, and detail management every step of the way. Japan blew it. they had engineers telling them it was a bad reactor design & they didn't listen.

if they had built the reactors 100 feet higher elevation, there probably would have been no terrible nuclear incident starting March 11.

my guess is, they had geologists & engineers questioning the decision to locate the Fukushima reactor complex where it was located.

the managers & politicians & nuclear regulatory people who were responsible for siting the Fukushima reactor - deserve a trial for extreme criminal negligence, and work assignment at the Fukushima site, doing all the dangerous clean-up work.

pull them out of retirement, pull them off their Caribbean yachts, pull them out of their mansions - make them face the music for their negligence.


it's sort of a metaphor, but, for example, i would trust the Vulcans (Spock) with nuclear technology - they seem to represent a mature species that does not allow greed to endanger public safety.

but maybe humans are just not capable of managing this technology.

the problem is, with oil at a production plateau, un-availability of nuclear technology means people will be burning a lot more coal, which is obviously cleaner than Fukushima but not exactly clean.

beefsteak
2nd June 2011, 09:09 PM
thanks for the time you took to reply.

After many years of observing all kinds of technology, including energy it has been pretty consistently observed that little thought is given to post energy remediation. It's all about costs going in, the devil takes the hindmost. That's just screwy. Nuclear energy seems to have the least concerns about the "devil's due." And we're dying from it. All at the same time now.

So much for theoretical nuclear energy management.

beefsteak

beefsteak
2nd June 2011, 11:55 PM
Dear Colleagues:

52nd day! After 3/11 (Makes it May 2nd)

I. TEPCO gave up recovery of the RHRS

It was reported early this morning that TEPCO was forced to give up recovery of the Residual Heat Removal Systems (RHRS) for 1F1-4, by having the workers to enter into the basement of turbine halls to the existing pumps. The human entry is necessary for the electricians to work for re-wiring. The basements of turbine halls are currently flooded with the highly contaminated water, making it extremely difficult to pump the water out and decontaminate to a radiation level for workers to get inside. In addition, the planned plugging of the trenches (tunnels for operation) will result in difficulties in pumping the sea water to the RHRS. The plugging, with concrete, is to prevent the seepage of the contaminated water into the trench.

The recovery of RHRS was found very effective at 1F5 and 6, where the reactor vessel temperature went down from 200 to 30 degree-C in just one day.

They now hope to use external air cooled heat exchangers for an alternative solution. For that, it is still necessary to provide a coolant flow route to a temporary installed pump from the containment vessel to the air cooler and then back to the reactor vessel. A feasibility of such an operation will depend on dose level of the areas where human access is necessary. In addition, a similar operation will become necessary for cooling of the spent fuel pool.

Even this will found impossible, there still remains an ultimate solution, I think. This uses the recycled water for water injection into the reactor vessel, the recycled water from the Water Purification Facility currently being scheduled to be constructed as early as June. In this case, it is necessary to secure a flow pass from the containment vessel into the water accumulated in the reactor buildings. However, there seem to exist significant leakages of water from all of the damaged reactor vessels. Perhaps it is prudent to first try to see the outcome of the injection by using the recycled water to judge whether modification of the piping is necessary. The residual heat could be removed by a submerged heat exchanger dropped from the machine hatches down into the water accumulated in the basement. Sea water should be used for the secondary side, in this idea. The containment venting by releasing steam is very dangerous as demonstrated by the hydrogen explosions, however releasing water seems not to induce hydrogen explosion, as demonstrated by suspected water leakages from the containment vessels.



II. Accounting for water sources of the contaminated water

Dr. Ko-ichi Nakamura of AIST made a detailed follow-up studies on the water injection operation to account for the water sources of the contaminated water. According to his summary, the following characteristics can be shown:



1F1

Total volume of the contaminated water: 20,500 tons

Total volume of water flowed in not through water injection: 11,987 tons



1F2

Total volume of the contaminated water: 25,000 tons

Total volume of water flowed in not through water injection: 8,896 tons



1F3

Total volume of the contaminated water: 22,000 tons

Total volume of water flowed in not through water injection:5,374 tons



1F4

Total volume of the contaminated water: 20,000 tons

Total volume of water flowed in not through water injection: 16.693.8 tons



This indicate that the total volume of water flowed in, not through water injection, amounts to 11,907 + 8,896 + 5,374.5 + 16,693.8 = 42,871.3 tons = 857 tons/day. On the other hands, the capacity of the planned water purification system being prepared by TEPCO is 1,200 tons per day. Therefore, it will barely sufficient to provide necessary re-cycled water for injection operation, however, it is not sufficient to reduce the total volume of the contaminated water accumulated in the reactor premises in a year or so.

I also noticed that the contaminated water in 1F1 and 1F4 may be relatively low in salt content, however, that in 1F2 and 1F3 will have high salt contents, making it less effective for decontamination by using zeolite, in general.
 



IV. Recapping on remediation of the school ground at Koriyama-shi

Mr. Edano, Chief Cabinet Secretary, mentioned that the contaminated soil, removed from the school ground at Koriyama-shi, should be disposed of as radioactive wastes, details will be investigated by the government where to dispose. This issue is anticipated to be more serious for amelioration of farmland from the scheduled (and organized) evacuation zones.


V. Stop that reactor accident, please!

(1) An operation to install a temporary ventilation system was started in 1F1.

It employs six fans to take air from the 1F1 Reactor Building and exhaust after filtration back to the building. Ventilation ducts of 30 cm diameter are inserted from a personnel door between the Reactor Building and the Turbine Hall. This operation is to reduce radioactive aerosols by a factor 1/20 to facilitate worker entry to the Reactor Building. For this operation, workers will go inside of the Reactor Building first time since March 12, by wearing radiation protection suits and oxygen masks. A two men team of workers should complete work in just 10 minutes, rotated to other three teams to complete this operation. TEPCO hopes to start the ventilation system as early as in May 5.



(2) Transfer of low level contaminated water from 1F5 and 6.

Since the water level at the basement of 1F6 has started to increase, TEPCO transferred approximately 120 tons of water since they started yesterday. The water level is as high as 2 meters, with an estimated volume of 4900 tons. The activation level is reported to be low.

(3) Continued mysterious behavior of water sarcophagus

TEPCO is struggling to put 1F1 into a water sarcophagus state, since they have already injected a sufficient amount of water to fill the containment vessel, however, there are no sign of the increase in the water level. On Aril 27, TEPCO announced that they decreased the water injection rate back to 6 tons per hour, from the temporary increased 10 tons per hour since April 27. This resulted in a more comfortable containment vessel pressure of 1.4 ata from the previous 1.1 ata. To prevent a negative pressure, the nitrogen charging operation is being continued. A delicate operation is still necessary in balancing the temperature of the reactor vessel and pressure of the containment vessel by manipulating the injection flow rate.



IV. A memo for lessons learned from the tsunami-induced nuclear disaster (continued)

For memory sake, let me add lessons learned.



(48) Proprietary information and severe accident

In trying to investigate the Fukushima Daiichi accident, I noticed that one of the big obstructions for investigation of his accident is in proprietary information, seems to be guarded by the GE-TEPCO-TOSHIBA-HITACHI complex. The technical information I can readily access to the Fukushima Daiichi is far less than that I have for the Chernobyl reactor, through Dr. Sich’s Ph,D thesis ( Alexander Roman Sich's Ph.D. thesis 1994, The Chernobyl Accident Revisited: Source Term Analysis and Reconstruction of Events During The Active Phase, MIT Libraries, MITNE-306 )

I do not think this situation is acceptable,

Well, let me stop here


Genn Saji

beefsteak
2nd June 2011, 11:56 PM
Dear Colleagues:

51st day! AFTER 3/11 (Makes it May 1st)

I. Resignation of Professor KOSAKO, Toshiso from the Prime Minister's Cabinet Counselor post

Since April 29, the Japanese media are reporting Prof. Kosako's resignation issue as a big blot of the Prime Minister. He submitted his resignation yesterday. He was hand picked by the Prime Minister to join as an advisor to the Prime Minister. In the Japanese administration system, the Nuclear Safety Commission (NSC) is organized to advise to the Prime Minister directly. However, according to news media report, he had run into constant frictions with NSC and organized a new advisory group by hand-picking knowledgeable specialists. In the nuclear engineering field, there were 6 specialists. Professor Kosako also mentioned that it is not clear who is actually making important decisions, the advisors were simply explaining their individual opinions.

Professor Kosako appeared at a press interview and strongly criticized the government's decision, especially related with allowing the accumulated dose to 20 mS/y for children, from the previous 1 mSv. He also criticized sharply the Prime Minister's accident management policy by saying that the decisions were made in a haphazard way. In addition, he has been insisting on dissemination of the results of atmospheric dispersion code, SPEEDI, during the early phase of the accident.

The Prime Minister himself, as well as government officials, are eager to insist that the accusation of Professor Kosako is not the case. He is an internationally well-known radiation protection specialist but at the same time he has been a target of attack from anti-nuclear people, since he defended the government's position towards Hiroshima-Nagasaki atomic bombing survivors with regard to radiation health effects.

On the adequacy of 20 mSv guideline, Mr. Kati, Shigeji, the Counselor of the Cabinet in chare of NSC, commented that the guideline should be adequate since it is in line with the ICRP recomendations, although I am not sure he is the appropriate person to speak in behalf of the Chairman of NSC.



II. Adequacy of 20 mSv and LNT hypothesis

Deep behind his scientific judgment, I noticed that there is the issue of LNT, linier non threshold hypothesis. In spite of more than 30 years of researches and discussions, there is no consensus reached on this subject even among the specialists, in my observation. In view of the Government decision to raise the public and children's accumulated dose to 20mSv, as well as radiation workers' dose to 250 mSv, the radiation effects of low level doses to human bodies became a renewed subject for research and discussion among specialists, I believe.

Although there are many excellent research works as reviewed in UNSCEAR 2000 (Biological effects at low radiation doses, Sources and Effects of Ionizing Radiation, Volume II: Effects, Annex G, United Nations, New York, 2000), I observed that the ultimate decision relies on the Life Span Studies (LSS cohort) of the Hiroshima-Nagasaki atomic bomb survivors.

I noticed this strongly when I attended PSA’05 meeting, held at San Francisco, September 11-15, 2005, in USA, in the LNT PLENARY Has the LNT Outlived Its Usefulness? At that time, Chauncey Starr - Founding President, Electric Power Research Institute, strongly appealed that LNT resulted in a notion that the radiation exposure is dangerous at any dose level, resulting in extremely high cost for waste management, for example. His introduction to LNT was followed with lectures on Hormesis and Radiation by Bobby R. Scott - Lovelace Respiratory Research Institute, Albuquerque, New Mexico and another lecture on Health Effects of Low Level Radiation by Kenneth L. Mossman Director, Office of Radiation Safety, School of Life Sciences, Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ. In response to their criticism, William C. Dewey Director, Radiation Oncology Research Laboratory (RORL), Univ. of California, San Francisco defended the BEIR VII Report, by showing the results of LSS cohort results and rejected their claims.

Even with this observation, I still think LNT is too conservative. Let me explain my basis. The accumulated doses received by the LSS cohort are registered by distances from the ground zero, by using the US supplied DS86 (Dose System 1986), now updated to DS02. The latter predicts about 10% increase in gamma, however significant decrease in neutron doses with distance compared with DS86. The underestimation of the accumulated doses beyond 1 km distance, estimated by relying on DS86/DS02, should have resulted in overestimation of radiation effects to human bodies at the dose levels that are of interest for radiation safety studies.

Even at the time of DS86, I believe it must have been significantly underestimated the neutron doses beyond 1 km when the theoretical prediction is compared with the field collected sample data of neutron induced activation from Co-60, Eu-152 as well as Cl-36 (Reference: S. Sawada et al, 1999. Hiroshima-Nagasaki Genbaku Higai no Jissou (Shin-Nihon Syuppan, in Japanese ISBN4-406-02672-X C3030). The difference is approximately 2 orders of magnitude at 2 km. The cause of the underestimation is almost obvious, I believe. We need to compute a space time kinetic behavior of thermal neutrons from the fast neutron spectra, by using the information of the slowing down processes calculated with the DS86/DS02 transport computer code. The air is a gigantic moderating material in a semi-infinite space. Perhaps a new Green function method should be developed for modeling studies. On this theme, I am ashamed to confess that my Ph.D thesis was on Space Time Kinetics (G. Saji and A. Axford, 1969, Space-Time Kinetics for Heterogeneous Reactor Models, Nuclear Science and Engineering: 35. 319-331). However, I have done nothing after finishing my Ph.D. In my entire carrier later on.

In addition, there are many research results by Japanese scientists, categorized as (1) induced activation, (2) radiation fallouts, in particular black rain and (3) Internal exposure. All these are pointing out that the underestimation of doses predicted by DS86/DS02. Since this subject has been a focal point of law suits against the Japanese Government, it has been a very sensitive issue, unfortunately. Nevertheless, the continued scientific study in this field is still highly waited for.



III. Increased concern on possible beta exposures

Although the environmental monitoring data have not identified beta emitters, in particular Sr-89, the new 20 mSv guideline intensified my concern as to the possible beta exposure, especially among school children in connection with the restriction of school ground usage. It is strange why strontium activity data has not been reported during the Fukushima Daiichi accident. I am worried about this from the following basis:

(1) Large inventory in the reactor cores

At shutdown(1F2-5)

Species T1/2?? Inventories Major ?(MeV) Major ?(MeV)
Sr-89 50.5d 2649 PBq - 1.46 (100%)
Sr-90 29.12y 171 no gamma 0.54
I-131 8.04d 2292 0.36 (82%) 0.61 (87%)
I-133 20.8h 4985 1.4-0.5 (94%) 0.535(94%)
Cs-134 2.06y 126 0.605(97%) 0.65 (75%)
Cs-136 13.1d 82 1.04,0.82 0.34 (93%)
Cs-137 30.3y 193 0.662(92%) 0.52 (92%)



(2) Not volatile, but not refractory. Intermediate

m.p. : 769 degree-C; b.p.:1384 degree-C



(3) Amount of release from the Chernobyl reactor

As large as the Cs-137 release in PBq (74-85 PBq) (UNSCEAR 2000, Annes J; Table 2)



(4) Health effects of Sr-90 + Cs-137 at Techa River near Mayak plutonium production facility



(5) Underestimation of health effects of beta exposure

Barss and Weitz. SAIC) in Heath Phys.(2006. is showing beta/gamma dose-rate ratio can be as high as 64 at one cm from the soil surface, during the atomic bombing tests in Nevada in the first day.



IV. Impacts of Government’s food and marketing restriction

(1) Reactions to the Scheduled (and organized) evacuation among residents of Iidate-mura

The Iidate-mura dairy farmers' union decided to give up moving their cattle to a safe location, since they are getting unhealthy without sufficient forage, being in difficult business situation induced by the marketing restriction for the fresh milk. They also plan to sell all of their calves, since they gave up their continued business. They are at a verge of closing their business in the future. They intend to have TEPCO compensate for the total loss.



(2) Contaminated sea water in Ibaraki Prefecture

The Union of Fishermen in Ibaraki decided to give up netting ko-nago ( Japanese sand lance ) this season. They were hoping to resume netting, if the contamination of baby fish samples indicated below the Government tentative guideline values for two consecutive samplings. However, since a contamination higher than the guideline was detected yesterday, they decided to give up catching this baby fish this season.

Today, I took Riho-chan, 27 months old, to a small fishing village near our residence to buy fish. Our shopping bag contained a pack of dried sirasu, baby fish of sardine. In Japan, we use this very often as a calcium source. I felt sorry for both the fishermen as well as local people who will not be able to purchase one of the very basic food staffs for us Japanese.



V. High contamination detected in the Municipal Sewage

High level of contamination was found at Fukushima Municipal Sewage Treatment Facility. The activation level was 26,400 Bq/kg in sewage sludge, approximately 1,300 times higher before the accident, and 334,000 Bq/kg in the final molten slug form of the sludge. Usually, this slug, generated approximately 10 tons a day, was used as a material at cement factories, however, the city will trace down whether the slug was already used in the factory, It is likely that the highly contaminated water flowed into the city sewage system. The sludge will be retained within the facility, until an appropriate disposal procedure is developed.

It is well known the difficulties for processing biologically and radio-logically contaminated waste water, except, perhaps in Russia, where lower boundary of activation level is specified. I recall my experience of finding toilets in the Active Zone in a NPP of Russian Design. This is close to impossible in Western countries, I believe.



VI. Stop that reactor accident, please!

(1) The 1F2 and 1F3 trench water

TEPCO stated their preparation for plugging four pits located at the corner of 1F2 and 1F3 trenches.



(2) Plan to construct a temporary sea walls

TEPCO also plan to construct a sea wall that can prevent flooding due to potential another large tsunami induced by an aftershock. They postulated M=8 aftershock, whose tsunami may be as high as 11-12 meters. Therefore, approximately 1-2 meters tall temporary sea wall will be constructed urgently around 1F3 and 4. It is planned to pile up steel cages, filled with stones, by using water proof sheets in between with a total length of 300 meters.



(3) Resuming transfer operation from 1F2 and 1F3 pits

The transfer operation for highly contaminated pit water in 1F2 has been suspended to check a potential leakages. The level increased 5 cm during this idling period. Their planning to resume the operation, by doubling its capacity with an additional pump, was suspended. It is because the pump will be used for transferring the 1F3 trench water, whose level raised by 19 cm, threatening to overflow as early as in late May.



(4) Enforcement of 1F4 pool

Due to the hydrogen explosion, a portion of structural wall supporting the pool load was blown away. TEPCO is planning to install 8 meter long columns to support the bottom of the pool and surrounded by 1-5 meter thick concrete wall for enforcement. They plan to complete it as early as in end June.



(5) Transfer of low level contaminated water from 1F5 and 6.

Since the water level at the basement of 1F6 has started to increase, TEPCO started, at 2:00 PM on May 1, to pump the water to another temporary tank at a rate of 30 tons per hour.



VII. A memo for lessons learned from the tsunami-induced nuclear disaster (continued)

For memory sake, let me add lessons learned.



(47) Further progress in LNT discussions

In spite of more than 30 years of researches and discussions onthe issue of LNT, linier non threshold hypothesis, there is no consensus reached on this subject even among the specialists. In view of the Government decision to raise the public and children's accumulated dose to 20mSv, as well as radiation workers dose to 250 mSv, the radiation effects of low level doses to human bodies became a renewed subject for research and discussion among specialists.

Although there are many excellent research works as reviewed in UNSCEAR 2000 (Biological effects at low radiation doses, Sources and Effects of Ionizing Radiation, Volume II: Effects, Annex G, United Nations, New York, 2000), the ultimate decision relies on the Life Span Studies (LSS cohort) of the Hiroshima-Nagasaki atomic bomb survivors.

The accumulated doses received by the LSS cohort are registered by distances from the ground zero, by using the US supplied DS86 (Dose System 1986), now updated to DS02. The underestimation of the accumulated doses beyond 1 km distance, estimated by relying on DS86/DS02, should have resulted in overestimation of radiation effects to human bodies at the dose levels that are of interest for radiation safety studies.

Since the causes of underestimation is now identified, it is essential to provide a scientifically reasonable dose system by revisiting the space-time behavior of thermal neutrons, effects of fallout, in particular by the black rain, induced activation effects, beta exposures, as well as internal exposures.

Well, let me stop here.

Genn Saji

http://www.ambersharick.com/Day%2051.html

beefsteak
3rd June 2011, 12:09 AM
DELAWARE DRINKING WATER:

Drinking Water RadNet Laboratory Analysis, EPA, June 2, 2011:

Dover, DE
Posted 6/1
Collected 4/13
Drinking Water
Cs-137 @ 4.1 pCi/l

MCL = 3.0 pCi/l (Minimum Contaminant Level)

===============


DATA RELEASED 6/1 by EPA

TO AID in checking a City in a Region Near GS-USer's HOMEBASE:

http://opendata.socrata.com/Government/Drinking-Water-RadNet-Laboratory-Analysis/4ig7-9eqd

beefsteak

Serpo
3rd June 2011, 03:23 PM
interesting article about magnesium being anti radiation....

I use DOLOMITE on the garden, instead of lime ,which is a good source of magnesium

http://www.naturalnews.com/032596_magnesium_radiation.html

(NaturalNews) One would not normally think that magnesium deficiency can increase the risk of cancer yet we will find that just as severe dehydration or asphyxiation can cause death, magnesium deficiency can lead directly to cancer. It is known that carcinogenesis induces magnesium distribution disturbances, causing magnesium mobilization through blood cells and magnesium depletion in non-neoplastic tissues. Magnesium deficiency is carcinogenic, and in the case of solid tumors, a high level of supplemented magnesium inhibits carcinogenesis.

Researchers from Japan's National Cancer Center in Tokyo have found that an increased intake of magnesium reduces a man's risk of colon cancer by over 50 percent. Several studies have shown an increased cancer rate in regions with low magnesium levels in soil and drinking water. In Egypt the cancer rate was only about 10 percent of that in Europe and America. In the rural fellah it was practically non-existent. The main difference was an extremely high magnesium intake of 2.5-3g in these cancer-free populations, ten times more than in most western countries.

For all of these reasons and a hundred more, magnesium oil remains the number one item in my cancer protocol and thus number one for radiation exposure. Magnesium is our first line of defense against both.



It is in a list of medicinals that prevent and treat
cancer that we find helpful substances that treat
and strengthen us against radiation contamination.

"In the years leading up to Chernobyl, some dairy farmers in Austria were using remineralization as a part of their operations. They added rock dust to liquid manure as well as combining it with compost, thereby removing odors and greatly increasing soil biota. As a result, cows had twice the normal lifespan and produced much more milk. Amazingly enough, after Chernobyl, the cheeses that were remineralized (as well as biodynamic cheeses) measured no radioactivity whatsoever. Austrians would stand in long lines in order to buy these safe, remineralized products," writes Joanna Campe.

Iodine is obviously not the only substance that we should run to in the face of increasing radiation threats. Magnesium is a vital mineral whose lack leaves us open to not only radioactive damages but also those from heavy metals and thousands of chemicals, which we are commonly exposed to. Mercury and now a long list of radioactive particles are floating in the environment like invisible clouds that have spread out everywhere. They are raining down on us, damaging and damning our future. We can no longer be passive about building our defenses against the toxic onslaught.

Without sufficient magnesium, the body accumulates toxins and acid residues, degenerates rapidly, and ages prematurely.

Just about everyone who is writing protocols for radiation toxicity is forgetting about the importance of magnesium salts. Worse still are governments and the entire institution of medicine that are purposely ignorant about magnesium, so they cannot possibly be trusted for valuable health and medical information that will help us in our time of dire need. The need was dire before Fukushima but they did not want to admit that; they let the public get obsessed with CO2 emissions and said nothing about the mercury. Now with radioactive nuclides steadily building up in the background, we are in trouble than any of us care to admit. Today the situation has gone nuclear and there has never before been a need so great for detoxification and chelation.

Magnesium is a crucial factor in the natural self-cleansing and detoxification responses of the body. Magnesium is also necessary for effective chelation. It stimulates the sodium potassium pump on the cell wall and this initiates the cleansing process in part because the sodium-potassium-ATPase pump regulates intracellular and extracellular potassium levels. The healthy cell wall favors intake of nutrients and elimination of waste products.

The involvement of free radicals in tissue injury induced by magnesium deficiency causes an accumulation of oxidative products in heart, liver, kidney, skeletal muscle tissues and in red blood cells, leaving them more vulnerable to oxidative stress caused by radiation exposure. Both radiation exposure and heavy metals produce oxidative stress through the creation of increased levels of reactive oxygen species (ROS -- oxygen free radicals, peroxides, and singlet oxygen). It is known that these increased levels of intracellular ROS are sufficient to trigger apoptosis (cell death).

Glutathione is Magnesium-Dependent

Glutathione protects the cells from oxidative-stress-induced apoptosis and glutathione levels are magnesium dependent! "Glutathione is a very important detoxifying agent, enabling the body to get rid of undesirable toxins and pollutants. It forms a soluble compound with the toxin that can then be excreted through the urine or the gut. The liver and kidneys contain high levels of glutathione as they have the greatest exposure to toxins. The lungs are also rich in glutathione partly for the same reason. Many cancer-producing chemicals, heavy metals, drug metabolites etc. are disposed of in this way," says Dr. Patricia Kongshavn, former professor, department of medicine at McGill University.


Glutathione is a polypeptide,
C10H17N3O6S, of glycine, cysteine, and glutamic acid.

Glutathione synthetase requires γ-glutamyl cysteine, glycine, ATP, and magnesium ions to form glutathione. In magnesium deficiency, the ss y-glutamyltranspeptidase is lowered. There is a direct relationship between cellular magnesium, GSH/GSSG ratios, and tissue glucose metabolism. Magnesium deficiency causes glutathione loss and this is unwelcome as the clouds of radiation are touching down across the northern hemisphere. Magnesium deficiency causes glutathione loss, which is not at all healthy because glutathione helps to defend the body against damage from cigarette smoking, exposure to radiation, cancer chemotherapy, and toxins such as alcohol and just about everything else.

According to Dr. Russell Blaylock, low magnesium is associated with dramatic increases in free radical generation as well as glutathione depletion and this is vital since glutathione is one of the few antioxidant molecules known to neutralize mercury. "For every molecule of pesticide that your body detoxifies, you throw away or use up forever a molecule of glutathione, magnesium and more," says Dr. Sherry Rogers who goes on to say that, "Your body uses nutrients to make this glutathione and it uses up energy as well. Every time we detoxify a chemical, we use up, lose, throw away forever, a certain amount of nutrients."

Mineral Deficiencies

Deficiencies in basic minerals like magnesium and selenium can make all the difference between health and disease, between being able to withstand chemical, heavy metal and radiation exposure. Dr. Rogers has indicated that there is as much as a 500-fold difference in the ability of individuals to detoxify the same chemicals and much of that will be true for radiation as well. A key marker of this difference is each individual's magnesium level. Deficiencies in magnesium will wreak havoc with our body's ability to detoxify and chelate heavy radioactive particles and explains much of the difference between one person withstanding radiation exposures and another person falling to radiation sickness.

Dr. Leslie Fisher has treated in excess of 35,000 patients where mineral therapy was prescribed as the sole form of medication. He has conducted research within his own clinics and the Department of Psychiatry, Austin Hospital, Melbourne. Mineral therapy is the foundation upon which chelation treatments and protocols are built. Magnesium does protect cells from aluminum, mercury, lead, cadmium, beryllium and nickel, which explains why re-mineralization is so essential for heavy metal detoxification and chelation as well as radiation protection. Magnesium is essential for the survival of our cells but takes on further importance now where our bodies are being bombarded on a daily basis with heavy metals and radiation.

Radiation and Diabetes

No one is going to convince the public that the increasing radiation will have a general effect on our health that can be easily traced back to the source. Even before we get cancer from radiation we have a general down-spiraling of body functions because of all the oxidative stress. In my book, New Paradigms in Diabetes, I write extensively about the direct relationship between magnesium deficiency and the onset of diabetes.

Pancreatic beta cells are sensitive to reactive oxygen species (ROS) attack when they are exposed to oxidative stress, because of the relatively low expression of antioxidant enzymes such as catalase and glutathione peroxidase. Diabetes is typically accompanied by increased production of free radicals and/or impaired antioxidant defense capabilities, indicating a central contribution of reactive oxygen species. It is also a fact that ROS is one of the major factors that induce oxidative modification of DNA and gene mutation.

The Chernobyl incident was a major disaster of humanity, which has resulted in a plethora of health problems that are still far from being fully recognized. Most studies analyzing the medical consequences of this catastrophe have so far focused on diseases such as thyroid cancer, leukemia, immune and autoimmune pathology, even though an increase in the incidence of type 1 diabetes mellitus, a disorder involving the immune system, was observed within the residential population of Hiroshima among survivors of the atom bomb detonation. Studies have also shown that thymectomy and a sub-lethal dose of gamma radiation induces type 1 diabetes in rats.

Researchers at the Pediatric Hospital A. Meyer, Florence, Italy studied this question by assessing the incidence of the disease in children in Gomel, Belarus in the years subsequent to the Chernobyl disaster. The results of the study seem to confirm the hypothesis that environmental pollution such as that subsequent to the Chernobyl accident can cause diabetes.

Mass screening for diabetes mellitus has been conducted on 64,000-113,000 atomic bomb survivors residing in Hiroshima City since 1961. From 1971 to 1992 a 2.7-fold increase in the prevalence of diabetes mellitus was observed in males and a 3.2-fold increase in females.

We have a significant and documented increase in the incidence of type 1 diabetes in children and adolescents after Chernobyl in the radioactively contaminated area of Gomel compared to Minsk.
- Heinrich Heine University

When beginning to build a protocol against the radiation and heavy metal onslaught, we need to stick with the basics and they are magnesium, iodine, sodium bicarbonate, vitamin C, selenium, clay, THC (cannabis),? as well as a natural chelator and superfoods. Properly filtered water also is essential. There is always more we can do but even affording these basics is a challenge to many.

Special Note: One of my readers wrote saying, "Thank you for the labor of love you've given to the inhabitants of the world. All the information about magnesium, iodine, baking soda, etc. is priceless and very much appreciated. I know we can't thank you enough for your generosity with the knowledge you've accumulated from all of your research. I know you've had your detractors -- ignore them!" These basic medicines are not only the mainstay of emergency rooms and intensive care wards but are the backbone of a my new form of medicine called Natural Allopathic Medicine, which makes sense in the age of toxicity that we all have live in.

About the author:
About the author:
Mark A. Sircus, Ac., OMD, is director of the International Medical Veritas Association (IMVA) http://www.imva.info/.

gunDriller
4th June 2011, 07:16 AM
Chris Martenson interview with Arnie Gunderson, great stuff !

and really long ...
http://www.chrismartenson.com/page/transcript-exclusive-arnie-gundersen-interview-dangers-fukushima-are-worse-and-longer-lived-we-

link 2 part 2

http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/exclusive-arnie-gundersen-interview-dangers-fukushima-are-worse-and-longer-lived-we-think/58689


"The Dangers of Fukushima Are Worse and Longer-lived Than We Think


Chris Martenson: Welcome to another ChrisMartenson.com podcast. I am your host, Chris Martenson and today I have the privilege of speaking with Arnie Gundersen of Fairewinds Associates. In my eyes, a kind of living legend in the field of nuclear engineering. He has over thirty-nine years of nuclear industry experience and oversight and is a frequent expert witness on nuclear safety matters to the US Federal Government and private industry.

Since the initial days of the disaster at Fukushima, Arnie and his staff at Fairewinds have produced hands down, the most thorough, measured, accurate analysis of the unfolding developments there. A feat made all the more challenging by the frequent lack of information from TEPCO and the Japanese government and media. Now today, Arnie and I will talk about the latest state of the situation at Fukushima, which remains wholly unresolved and it's quite troubling – we should keep our eyes on it. In addition, we are going to discuss what the important factors are for you to know, as well as what pragmatic preparations those of us who live in or near nuclear installations or countries that have them should really be doing. So Arnie, welcome to the show, it's a pleasure to have you.

Arnie Gundersen: Thank you very much and I note that a lot of your readers have come to our site and I appreciate it.

Chris Martenson: We have some great readers and they are interested in knowing the truth, as best they can find it and we have a way of being at our site, which is that we really like to keep our facts very separated from our opinions. Something that I really admire that you do, as well.

Arnie Gundersen: Well thanks.

Chris Martenson: Let’s just briefly review – if we could just synopsize – I know you can do this better than anybody. What happened at Fukushima – what happened and I really would like to take the opportunity to talk about this kind of specifically, like where we are with each one of the reactors. So first of all, this disaster – how did it happen? Was it just bad engineering, was it really bad luck with the tsunami? How did this even initiate – something we were told again and again – something that couldn’t happen seems to have happened?

Arnie Gundersen: Well the little bit of physics here is that even when a reactor shuts down; it continues to churn out heat. Now, only five percent of the original amount of heat, but when you are cranking out millions of horsepower of heat, five percent is still a lot. So you have to keep a nuclear reactor cool after it shuts down. Now, what happened at Fukushima was it went into what is called a “station blackout,” and people plan for that. That means there is no power to anything except for batteries. And batteries can’t turn the massive motors that are required to cool the nuclear reactor. So the plan is in a station blackout is that somehow or another you get power back in four or five hours. That didn’t happen at Fukushima because the tidal wave, the tsunami, was so great that it overwhelmed their diesels and it overwhelmed something called “service water 2” But in any event, they couldn’t get any power to the big pumps.

Now, was it foreseeable? They were prepared for a seven-meter tsunami, about twenty-two feet. The tsunami that hit was something in excess of ten and quite likely fifteen meters, so somewhere between thirty-five and forty-five feet. They were warned that the tsunami that they were designed against was too low. They were warned for at least ten years and I am sure that there were people back before that. So would they have been prepared for one this big? I don’t know, but certainly, they were unprepared for even a tsunami of lesser magnitude.

Chris Martenson: So the tsunami came along and just swamped the systems and I heard that there were some other design elements there too, such as potentially the generators were in an unsafe spot or that some of their electrical substations all happened to be in the basement, so they kind of got taken out all at once. Now, here’s what I heard – the initial reports when they came out said, “Oh, nothing to fear, we all went into SCRAM,” which is some kind of emergency shutdown and they said everything is SCRAMed and I knew that we were in trouble in less than twenty-four hours, they talked about how they were pumping seawater in. Which I assume, by the time you are pumping seawater you have a pretty clear indication from the outside that there is something really quite wrong with this story, is that true?

Arnie Gundersen: Yes. Seawater and as anybody who has ever had a boat on the ocean would know, saltwater and stainless steel do not get along very well. Saltwater and stainless steel at five hundred degrees don’t get along very well at all. You are right, they had some single points of vulnerability – the hole in the armor and the diesels were one of them. But even if the diesels were up high, they would have been in trouble because of those service water pumps I talked about. And they got wiped out and those pumps are the pumps that cool the diesels. So even if the diesels were runnable, cooling water that runs through the diesels would have been taken out by the tsunami anyway. So it's kind of a false argument to blame the diesels.

Chris Martenson: Okay, so take us through. Reactor number one, it was revealed I think about a week ago now that they finally came to the revelation that I think some of us had come to independently, that there had been something more than a partial meltdown, maybe even a complete meltdown. What is your assessment of reactor one and where is it right now?

Arnie Gundersen: When you see hydrogen explosions, that means that the outside of the fuel has exceeded 2,200 degrees and the inside is well over 3,500 degrees. The fuel gets brittle, it burns, and then it plops to the bottom of the nuclear reactor in a molten blob like lava. It was pretty clear to a lot of people, including apparently to the NRC, but they weren’t telling people back in March, that that had occurred in reactor one. There was essentially a blob of lava on the bottom of the nuclear reactor. So I have to separate this – a nuclear reactor - and that is inside of a containment. So there is still one more barrier here. But the problem is that the reactor had boiled dry and they were using fire pumps connected to the ocean to pump saltwater into the reactor. Now, if this thing were individual tubes, the water could get around the uranium and completely cool it. But when it's a blob at the bottom of the reactor, it can only get to the top surface and that would cause it to begin to meltdown. Now, on these boiling water reactors, there are about seventy holes in the bottom of the reactor where the control rods come in and I suspect that those holes were essentially the weak link that caused this molten mass. Now it's 5,000 degrees at the center, even though the outside may be touching water, the inside of this molten mass is 5,000 degrees. It melts through and lies on the bottom of the containment.

That’s where we are today. We have no reactor essentially, just a big pressure cooker. The molten uranium is on the bottom of the containment. It spreads out at that point, because the floor is flat. And I don’t think it's going to melt its way through the concrete floor. It may gradually over time; but the damage is already done because the containment has cracks in it and it's pretty clear that it is leaking. So you put water in the top. And the plan had never been to put water in the top and let it run out the bottom. That is not the preferred way of cooling a nuclear reactor in an accident. But you are putting water in the top and it's running out the bottom and it's going out through cracks in the containment, after touching directly uranium and plutonium and cesium and strontium and is carrying all those radioactive isotopes out as liquids and gases into the environment.

Chris Martenson: So this melting that happened, is this just a function of the decay heat at this point in time? We’re not speculating that there has been any sort of re-criticality or any other what we might call a nuclear reaction – this is just decay heat from the isotopes that are in there from prior nuclear activity – those are just decaying and giving off that heat. That’s sufficient to get to 5,000 degrees?

Arnie Gundersen: Yes, once the uranium melts into a blob at these low enrichments, four and five percent, it can’t make a new criticality. If criticality is occurring on the site - and there might be, because there is still iodine 131, which is a good indication - it is not coming from the Unit 1 core and it's not coming from the Unit 2 core, because those are both blobs at the bottom of the containment.

Chris Martenson: All right, so we have these blobs, they’ve somehow escaped the primary reactor pressure vessel, which is that big steel thing and now they are on the relatively flat floor of the containment – they concrete piece – and you say Unit 2 is roughly the same story as Unit 1 – where’s Unit 3 in this story?

Arnie Gundersen: Unit 3 may not have melted through and that means that some of the fuel certainly is lying on the bottom, but it may not have melted through and some of the fuel may still look like fuel, although it is certainly brittle. And it's possible that when the fuel is in that configuration that you can get a re-criticality. It's also possible in any of the fuel pools, one, two, three, and four pools, that you could get a criticality, as well. So there’s been frequent enough high iodine indications to lead me to believe that either one of the four fuel pools or the Unit 3 reactor is in fact, every once in a while starting itself up and then it gets to a point where it gets so hot that it shuts itself down and it kind of cycles. It kind of breathes, if you will.

Chris Martenson: Right, so when it's doing that breathing, it's certainly generating a lot of heat through the fission process and then of course, it's generating more isotopes to decay and contribute to the decay heat at that point. What’s your assessment if there is that sort of breathing going on, is sort of like a little pocket within one of the geometries that exists that would still allow fission to be supported or could you imagine this being a fairly significant amount or how much do you think might be happening?

Arnie Gundersen: I think it's a relatively significant amount – maybe a tenth of the nuclear reactor core starts back up and shuts back down and starts back up and shuts back down. And that’s an extra heat load; you are not prepared to get rid of one tenth of a nuclear reactor’s heat by pumping water in the top

Now, Unit 3 has another problem and the NRC mentioned it yesterday for the first time and it gets back to that saltwater and the effect on iron. They are afraid that the reactor bottom will break, literally just break right out and dump everything. Because it's now hot and it's got salt on it and it's got the ideal conditions for corrosion. So the big fear on Unit 3 is that it will break at the bottom and whatever else remains in it, which could be the entire core, could fall out suddenly. And if that happens, you can get something called a “steam explosion,” and this may be a one in a hundred chance. I don’t want your listeners to think it's going to happen tomorrow, but if the core breaks you will get a steam explosion, but we’re not sure the core is going to break. And that is a violent hydrogen explosion like the one we’ve already witnessed.

Chris Martenson: Reactor 3 caught me when it blew, because what I saw there with my eyes was a fairly focused upwards very high-energy event, which completely looked different from what I saw when Unit 1 blew. Are you talking about – is that or I know you have postulated in the past that you think that might have been -- what’s the name for it a “prompt” criticality?

Arnie Gundersen: I called it a “prompt criticality,” that created a detonation and engineers differentiate – either way it's going to be a big explosion. But the violence of Unit 3’s explosion and I did some calculations to show that the speed at which the flame traveled in order to through particles as far as this one threw particles – the speed of that shockwave had to be in excess of a thousand miles per hour. That’s a detonation, where the shockwave itself can cause incredible damage and that can happen if we were to have one of these steam explosions at the bottom of the reactor in Unit 3 falls out – you could have another one of those all over again "

beefsteak
4th June 2011, 10:55 AM
Serpo,
Noticed Dr. Russell Blaylock was quoted in this article and wish to highlight one of the portions your generously provided:


According to Dr. Russell Blaylock MD, CN, retired Neurosurgeon and now author/lecturer Excitoxins, and Nuclear Sunrise, low magnesium is associated with dramatic increases in free radical generation as well as glutathione depletion and this is vital since glutathione is one of the few antioxidant molecules known to neutralize mercury.

EDIT: made me immediately think of all the amalgam in my teeth.... nice to know in my old age I can finally do something to remove the Hg from my body from years of dental fixes, plus all those "thimerosal delivery" vaccinations...

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"For every molecule of pesticide that your body detoxifies, you throw away or use up forever a molecule of glutathione, magnesium and more," says Dr. Sherry Rogers who goes on to say that, "Your body uses nutrients to make this glutathione and it uses up energy as well. Every time we detoxify a chemical, we use up, lose, throw away forever, a certain amount of nutrients."

Would like to mention that upon learning of this glutathione necessity, my wife and I have added TUMERIC in capsule form to our daily regimen, a natural source of glutathione. With the little 24 at a time capsule filler/assemblers on the market nowadays, it is a breeze to stop and do these, using either the "OO" capsules non-tamped down (tamper tool included) or the "O" capsule size TAMPED DOWN so that they hold about 475mg.

Our research has uncovered the following: using Tumeric in this fashion will find a side benefit of reduction of inflamation (yes, which includes arthritic helpfulness) And it also should be noted that if one is already on Heparin or Coumadin aka blood thinners, tumeric should be taken only with the understanding that it has a multiplier type effect on the effects of the prescription blood thinners already in one's system. That would not be a good thing according to the plain English stuff we read up on.

Concurrently, if one is facing surgery, please advise your Dr. if you are taking Tumeric on your own initiative. They will need that information and will have specific advice for you as regards to scheduling your surgery based upon your Tumeric consumption. These are some of the sticking in the mind points from our reading up on tumeric.
our google search link here:
http://www.google.com/search?q=tumeric+and+gout&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=pNG&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&source=hp&q=tumeric+and+glutathione&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=a91b69f6bd0a7737&biw=1072&bih=661

Dr. Linus Pauling Institute
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/phytochemicals/curcumin/
This is the Dr. Linus Pauling Institute at Oregon State University research source for reviewing in scientific lingo the literature w/r/t TUMERIC as a curcuminoid and T's POSITIVE impact upon gluthathione production and usage in human body.

Besides, we like "yellow colored things " around here, which includes the foods my wife already cooks with and includes this spice. ;D If further research uncovers a silver colored spice for the GS-US SILVER BUGS on here, you can be assured it will be posted promptly as well.

:sun:

beefsteak

beefsteak
4th June 2011, 11:20 AM
A word or three about the capsule fillers/assembly tools mentioned in the post above.

1) available on eBay, Amazon, etc., very inexpensively--under $20.
2) Choices of capsules in size.
3) Choice of capsules in type: (vegetable vs gelatin)
4) best prices of empty veggie caps we've found is Wonder Labs of Whitehouse, TN
amt: 1,000; size "O" --> http://www.wonderlabs.com/itemleft.php?itemnum=2100


A word about the choice of capsules:
The gelatin capsules are made from bovine hide only, which avoids danger of mad cow disease (by rendering of bovine bones in making gelatin.)

VCaps, or vegetarian capsules are manufactured by Capsugel®, and are derived from 100% Southern pine bark. They contain mostly cellulose.
Capsules are KGMP approved. ISO 9001 Certified by SGS, England.

A word about an important difference in the capsules:
GELATIN CAPSULES swell with humidity unless stored with a dessicant in jar/container.
Swelled capsules are tougher to insert AND remove from capsule fillers.

A quick tip about post filling of capsules
After they are pushed out and laying in your plate/tray for placing into bottles, take a few extra seconds to push the tops ONTO the bottoms...you'll feel them "quietly snap together" under your thumb and forefinger. They're made to close securely, and not just slip on and off easily like the pharma mfgrs capsules separate.

Here're some pix anyhow...

http://www.cap-m-quick.com/images/dimensions.gif

Here's a pix of the unit. Truly, a tool that is so simple a CAVEMAN can use it. That means I figured it out without reading the pics even. (It's a guy thing! :D )

http://www.capsuleconnection.com/sites/www.capsuleconnection.com/files/images/capsule_machine.jpg

The capsule holder/assembly parts rinse off quickly under hot water, and so far, haven't done any staining. They dry quickly also. Expect thousands of uses per machine. It really does only take about 3 minutes to make'em and push 'em out after you learn how.

beefsteak

beefsteak
4th June 2011, 06:15 PM
Gotta brag on my wife. |--0--|

She went and did her Thrift Store/Flea Market thing today, and came home with some superb stuff.

First, she found a really sharp and expensive looking spice carousel, just chock full of spices like she uses to cook with. (And I'm learning to make our drastically changed menu selections more interesting by adding a shake-shake of this and that on my food, just to keep from being bored to death by the same bland taste of everything.)

Those she doesn't cook with and I never liked to begin with (e.g., sage) and I had her add into the sesame seeds and the old parsley flakes plus something else I forget now, to my dried soil amendment can, which is the dried vegetative matter I know is pre-Fukishima in origin. My goal here to to cut down on bokashi cash outgo expenses --by drying veggie matter--now that Serpo has given us the headszup on these microbe guys.

The second thing she brought home were these "bread loaf size" already wrapped decorative bales of straw, still in their cellophane wrappers. What on earth do women see in those things? Anyhow, when I get some next year chicks and rabbits according to that 1979 Oak Ridge Laboratories advisory w/r/t non-radioactive contaminated meat sources posted earlier on this thread, I'll have some bedding for them that isn't poisoned. Then I'll be able to use any extra for my soil amendment bucket, too. And what is with women and making wreaths out of straw. She brought home some of them as well. Oh, well....more straw. But I made her take out all the goofy fabric and ribbon and pearls on some kind of string deals that were stuck into the straw wreath. :whistle


The last thing she scored on was really big deal!!! It was a WHOLE DRIP irrigation system with the drippers already inserted into the tubing, about 150' long she located at Salvation Army Thrift Store. The fancy, well-built pump w/timer was there, and the fittings that feed the pump from a regular garden hose was in the lot also. Plus several extra drippers, etc. $12 for that lot. I was very proud of her. This will sure give our hydroponics a boost. One of the displays we saw set up in a nearby city's hydro store was a deal where the dripper squirted directly onto the suspended roots of the plant, held in place by a neoprene disk that had been slit half way through so it could wrap around the stem of the growing strawberries we saw without harming the stem in anyway.

Pretty clever. I've got a scuba suit I don't use anymore that I'm cutting up for making all those disks. I'll post pix later of this disk and insert deal...fits snug like inside of a vinyl gutter unit plus 2 endcaps I'm using for the smaller plants.

Pretty interesting this new hydro project.

EDIT: just got through assembling a parts list and counting her pieces, and totaling up the value of her "find"....it is in excess of 600 FRNs, and that's at ebay prices...probably would plumb pass out on the floor at the local hardware store for this stuff if I'd go price it currently!! True Value TM seems to be mighty proud of their inventory as best I can tell. An added bonus is that it is already assembled, every 10" spacing, so no labor required, other than stringing it out.

WAY TO GO, HONEY!

beefsteak

beefsteak
4th June 2011, 11:56 PM
Wonder if this has anything to do with Fukushima #3 about to fall into the "cement drywell below the reactor" causing the advance warned about hydrogen explosion nuke eng. from Arnie G ystdy after the NRC brought it (F #3) up???



Radioactive water leak to be prevented for 3 days

Tokyo Electric Power Company has decided to increase the transfer of radioactive water by about 1,500 tons to a facility at the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. The company says the transfer can keep contaminated water from leaking outside for about 3 days.

More than 105,000 tons of contaminated water is thought to have accumulated in the basements of the reactor and turbine buildings. An additional 500 tons or so flows into the basements per day as a result of the injection of water into the reactors. The situation is raising concern about the possible overflow of contaminated water.

On Saturday, TEPCO obtained Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency permission to increase the water transfer from its initial plan. It began transferring 12 tons of water per hour from the basement of the Number 2 turbine building to the basement of a facility for nuclear waste.

The utility will start filtering 1,200 tons of highly radioactive water per day on June 15th. It also plans to set up tanks to store 10,000 tons of water underground at the plant in the middle of August.

Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:59 +0900 (JST)
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/05_10.html


beefsteak

Serpo
5th June 2011, 12:39 AM
NRC afraid bottom of Reactor No. 3 will break out and dump everything — First time it’s mentioned problem
June 4th, 2011 at 10:05 AM

The ideal conditions for corrosion …Read More
312 comments
High iodine levels mean No. 3 reactor core or a spent fuel pool is “starting itself up” every once in a while, believes nuclear consultant
June 4th, 2011 at 08:47 AM

Transcript for Exclusive Arnie Gundersen Interview: The Dangers of Fukushima Are …Read More
52 comments
Highest Yet: Radiation inside Reactor No. 1 drywell rises to 250 Sieverts per hour
June 4th, 2011 at 06:53 AM
250_1

Radiation dose, Unit 1 nuclear power plant Hukushima, atmc.jp, June 4, …Read More
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4,000 millisieverts per hour detected at No. 1 reactor building
June 4th, 2011 at 05:25 AM

High levels of radiation found at Japan nuclear plant, DPA, June …Read More
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Winds have turned, hot particles to head south from Fukushima — Advice is to leave Tokyo if Unit No. 4 collapses (AUDIO)
June 4th, 2011 at 03:59 AM

Transcript for Exclusive Arnie Gundersen Interview: The Dangers of Fukushima Are …Read More
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Vast underestimation of radiation levels by Japan gov’t — Blames “calculation errors”
June 3rd, 2011 at 03:54 PM

The ministry has accumulated 73 mSv miscalculation in the town Namie, …Read More
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IAEA is mandated to “accelerate and enlarge the contribution of atomic energy” — “Like expecting a tobacco company to prevent lung cancer”
June 3rd, 2011 at 03:20 PM
iaeapaint

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Japan nuclear expert: Risk of overflow as serious as meltdown — Tepco should’ve acknowledged risk weeks ago
June 3rd, 2011 at 08:09 AM

Fukushima Water Has More Radiation Than Released Into Air, Bloomberg, June …Read More
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Two explosions may have occurred early on at Reactor No. 3, very similar to Chernobyl — Likely at least several hundred pounds of plutonium ejected (VIDEO)
June 3rd, 2011 at 06:26 AM
Two explosions may have occurred early on at Reactor No. 3, very similar to Chernobyl — Likely at least several hundred pounds of plutonium ejected (VIDEO)

Linda Moulton Howe interviews Scott Portzline, security consultant to Three Mile …Read More
93 comments
IAEA: Japan gov’t response to nuclear crisis has been “exemplary” — Long-term response “impressive and well organized”
June 3rd, 2011 at 04:00 AM

Radiation monitoring continues near damaged Japanese nuclear plant, UN reports, UN …Read More
82 comments
6.3 quake hits off east coast of Japan, same latitude as Fukushima
June 2nd, 2011 at 10:01 PM
63quake

6.3-magnitude quake hits off the east coast of Honshu, Japan — …Read More
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EPA posts latest radiation data: Cesium-137 in Delaware drinking water above “Maximum Contaminant Level”
June 2nd, 2011 at 08:46 PM

Drinking Water RadNet Laboratory Analysis, EPA, June 2, 2011: …Read More
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Nuclear engineers urging IAEA to create “Level 8″ on INES scale for Fukushima
June 2nd, 2011 at 04:11 PM
Nuclear engineers urging IAEA to create “Level 8″ on INES scale for Fukushima

Linda Moulton Howe interviews Scott Portzline, security consultant to Three Mile …Read More
160 comments
Enlarged 50-mile evacuation zone by US was because of spent fuel pools, not reactor meltdowns: NRC official
June 2nd, 2011 at 02:24 PM

The NRC also had “suspicions” about the conditions of the spent fuel pools, Borchardt said… Based on that assumption, he said, the NRC recommended that U.S. residents in Japan stay 80 km away …Read More
48 comments
Large burst of steam/smoke rising from Reactor No. 4 (VIDEO)
June 2nd, 2011 at 12:37 PM
Large burst of steam/smoke rising from Reactor No. 4 (VIDEO)

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Japan bans radioactive green tea from area 40 miles SOUTHWEST of Tokyo
June 2nd, 2011 at 11:37 AM

Japan restricts green tea over radiation fears, AFP, June 2, 2011:

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“IAEA today admitted there is no such thing as ‘safe’ levels of radiation” — Allowable radiation standard based on ‘benefit’, not safety
June 2nd, 2011 at 09:57 AM

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Hospital: 40% of Fukushima visitors show internal exposure to radiation
June 2nd, 2011 at 09:40 AM

Hiroshi Nagasaki Hospital, examined the internal exposure to 40 percent of …Read More
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TEPCO shares hit record low — S&P cuts credit rating to junk status; Chance of default on debt now 53 percent
June 2nd, 2011 at 07:47 AM

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Fears mount as radioactive water now just 10 inches from overflowing surface outside Reactor No. 3
June 2nd, 2011 at 06:33 AM

Wastewater rises, fears mount, NHK, June 02, 2011:

The operator of …Read More
http://enenews.com/

Serpo
5th June 2011, 12:41 AM
...] Now, Unit 3 has another problem and the NRC mentioned it yesterday for the first time and it gets back to that saltwater and the effect on iron. They are afraid that the reactor bottom will break, literally just break right out and dump everything. Because it’s now hot and it’s got salt on it and it’s got the ideal conditions for corrosion. So the big fear on Unit 3 is that it will break at the bottom and whatever else remains in it, which could be the entire core, could fall out suddenly. [...]


http://enenews.com/nrc-afraid-bottom-reactor-3-will-literally-break-dump-everything



[...] It’s also possible in any of the fuel pools, one, two, three, and four pools, that you could get a criticality, as well. So there’s been frequent enough high iodine indications to lead me to believe that either one of the four fuel pools or the Unit 3 reactor is in fact, every once in a while starting itself up and then it gets to a point where it gets so hot that it shuts itself down and it kind of cycles. It kind of breathes, if you will. [...]

I think it’s a relatively significant amount – maybe a tenth of the nuclear reactor core starts back up and shuts back down and starts back up and shuts back down. And that’s an extra heat load; you are not prepared to get rid of one tenth of a nuclear reactor’s heat by pumping water in the top [...]
http://enenews.com/high-iodine-levels-3-reactor-core-spent-fuel-pool-starting-every-believes-nuclear-consultant

Serpo
5th June 2011, 12:45 AM
Arnie Gundersen: Yea, and actually we should extend this to the West Coast, because the same particles there too. To answer your question about Tokyo; what I’m advising people in Tokyo who are there now, is take your shoes off at the door, wet dust. Don’t dry dust. We are actually finding that contamination inside houses is higher now than contamination outside because it has been trucked in over the last two months and it hasn’t left. And if you dry dust you throw all of that radioactive material up into the air. I am also advising friends there to buy these little HEPA filters, high efficiency particulate filters that look like a little round device that sits on the floor, and change the filters frequently. Also advising people to remove the filters in their air conditioners and the air conditioner in their car, and replace them. Because they pick up particles over the last couple of months and it is a good time to replace them as well. Also telling people don’t do any demolition work. The last thing you want to do right now is tear a wing off your house because you will stir up that dust, not knowing exactly what’s in it, you run a risk of contamination.

http://www.chrismartenson.com/martensonreport/part-2-arnie-gundersen-interview-protecting-yourself-if-situation-worsens

hepa filters ect..........
http://www.hepafilters.com/products-page/air-purifier-products/airpura-600-series/


Arnie Gundersen: Well, I am in touch with some scientists now who have been monitoring the air on the West Coast and in Seattle for instance, in April, the average person in Seattle breathed in 10 hot particles a day.

Chris Martenson: What? I did not know that.

Arnie Gundersen: Well, the report takes some time to make its way into the literature. The average human being breathes about 10 meters a day of air, cubic meters of air. And the air out in the Seattle area are detecting, when they pull 10 cubic meters through them, this is in April now, so we are in the end of May so it is a better situation now. That air filter will have 10 hot particles on it. And that was before the Unit Four issue. Clearly we all can’t run south of the equator to our second homes in Rio or something like that. But it will stay north of the equator for anyone who has a Leer jet and can get out. But I guess what I am advising at that point is keep your windows closed. I would definitely wear some sort of a filter if I was outside. I certainly wouldn’t run and exercise until I was sure the plume had dissipated. This isn’t now. This is, as you were saying, this is worst case. If Unit Four were to topple, I would close my windows, turn the air conditioner on, replace the filters frequently, damp mop, put a HEPA filter in the house and try to avoid as much of the hot particles as possible. You are not going to walk out with a Geiger counter and be in a plume that is going to tell you the meter. The issue will be on the West Coast, hot particles. And the solution there is HEPA filters and avoiding them.

Serpo
5th June 2011, 04:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3CJLNJpUVo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q3ljfLvHww

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbYHoAWP0uY&NR=1

gunDriller
5th June 2011, 07:04 AM
The second thing she brought home were these "bread loaf size" already wrapped decorative bales of straw, still in their cellophane wrappers. What on earth do women see in those things? Anyhow, when I get some next year chicks and rabbits according to that 1979 Oak Ridge Laboratories advisory w/r/t non-radioactive contaminated meat sources posted earlier on this thread, I'll have some bedding for them that isn't poisoned. Then I'll be able to use any extra for my soil amendment bucket, too. And what is with women and making wreaths out of straw. She brought home some of them as well. Oh, well....more straw. But I made her take out all the goofy fabric and ribbon and pearls on some kind of string deals that were stuck into the straw wreath. :whistle

that's exactly what i did.

i found a local farmer with some mini-bales (60 pounds, normally they're 120 pounds) from last year's crop, stored in a huge barn, protected from the rain.

his bailer broke, and the hay sat in the sun too long (horses normally prefer hay with more water content). so the bales weigh 50 to 55 pounds ... and they're selling for $1 each. they think the hay is defective because it's too dry. i think it's just fine because it's pre-Fukushima.

i can fit 11 or 12 mini-bales in the back of my truck. i've made 2 trips to their farm so far.

the farmer was complaining about fuel costs (it's a young couple). i mentioned bio-diesel - his equipment is mostly diesel. i basically told him that he could limit his fuel costs by growing sunflowers & extracting the oil. his response was basically, "i don't want to hear about that hippie stuff !"

so, i refrained from telling them why i like their hay so much ... i don't think they want to hear about the possibility of radiation from Fukushima affecting their 2011 harvest.


the same option is probably available for most G-S.us members. you may not find overly-dry hay because a local farmer's bailer broke, but ANY hay from the 2010 season is good hay - unless you're near the Gulf of Mexico.

a typical price for the 120 pound bale is $12, at a farm supply store. if you look on Craigslist you can probably find cheaper.

anyway, i started constructing the "Tarp Mahal" on the back deck, to cover the hay and to build a compost pile protected from the rain, using all pre-Fukushima ingredients, well water, etc.

beefsteak
5th June 2011, 03:15 PM
The Gunderson report referenced by Serpo (above) kind of bothers me. Anyone else?

First, why is it now only after some think tank or "private contact" on the west coast releases info DOCUMENTED BACK IN APRIL 2010 (approx 60 days ago) are we only now hearing of the " breathed in 10 radioactive particles (inhilation)" from Mr. Gunderson?

60 days x 10 particles = 600 particles (assuming it is an average) and so on.

Firstly,
Several things go through my mind as we muse upon this new "tidbit"...
1) sample collection method
2) time of day sample was connected
3) what kind of "particles" are they surmising about?
4) why no concomitant discussion/revelation/musings in said interview about pragmatic responses to such info?

Didn't this interviewer promise "pragmatic responses/approaches" to learn said information or is my mind playing tricks?

Additionally....
Anyone interested in what kind and brand and model number of HEPA FILTER is in Arnie's home? Or the Seattle think-tanker people?

I've been wondering about tracking in radioactivity myself, especially after I hired 2 neighbors to take care of the lawn this year on my property instead of doing it myself. Personally glad to hear A.G. state that Hepa can help-a. We've decided to acquire some of the French Green Clay and place it into a kitty litter shallow basin, into which we step prior to entering into the home. At least it gives the "un-inhaled particles" something to attach to via the positive/negative charge physics phenom. And we're changing our vacuuming equipment to the old-fashioned "rainbow with water trap" unit one always sees at household/estate auctions.

Yes, we just cleaned our air filters. Thanks for the reminder, Arnie.

For those who may not know, washing a/cleaner filters using dishwashing liquid, makes them collect the dust faster, and quicker, necessitating rinsing more frequently. Nice to know, eh? That's not from Arnie. That's a freebie from experience. LOL

beefsteak

beefsteak
5th June 2011, 03:16 PM
Gunny,
thanks for the extra details. I didn't understand your initial post about how to selected the straw and where you found it, like I do now after you elaborated a bit. Very illuminating! Thanks again.

PS...good point you made w/r/t GoM hay...and all that airborne Corexit poisoning embedded therein/upon.

beefsteak

osoab
5th June 2011, 03:40 PM
Came across this site today. http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/fukushima.html

Basically, this guy thinks that the Israeli's installed mini nukes and Suxnet in all the reactors, set off a nuke to cause the tsunami, and forced the Japanese to cover up a 6.8 quake and call it a 9.1 quake. Very interesting thesis. Not complete quackery imho.

He did a 2 hour interview here about Fukushima. http://innersites.com/feet2fire/archives2011/f2f110529.htm
Scroll to the very bottom of the page and when you see hours 3 & 4, you can right click and save as.

I was reading another topic he had. Upcoming article: Antidepressant Nightmare (http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/antidepressants.html) Very interesting. I would like to see the whole thing when it comes out in July.

beefsteak
5th June 2011, 04:45 PM
Osoab,
that was an amazing "intro/tease" to the world of antidepressants. I'm going to have to share that with a few family members. If you get wind of this being in print before I do, please come back and share.

As far as the Nuke/EQ/Tsunami theory, I've read similar but not by your author's byline.
I don't know how to respond, except to reflect upon the depravity of TPTB. I'm not in the "it's inconceivable" department. This has and continues to be the most horrid travesty upon the human race. All nuke events prior to this one were simply dress rehearsals it appears.

The thread, I am SURE appreciates all perspectives on this Fukushima matter.

beefsteak

Serpo
5th June 2011, 08:56 PM
Radiation over Tokyo Mar 15 ......
Gov’t simulation shows radioactive plume of Krypton-85 over Tokyo March 15 — Reactor No. 3 with MOX exploded March 14
June 5th, 2011 at 07:46 AM


Fukushima Nuke Accident: WSPEEDI Shows Tokyo Was Under Radioactive Plume on March 15, EX-SKF, June 4, 2011:

Japan’s ever-sneaky Ministry of Education and Science again quietly released 3 sets of simulation maps of WSPEEDI without any press release nor any explanation; this time it was the simulations that they did on March 15. The Reactor 3 that used MOX fuel blew up on March 14 at 11:01AM JST. [...]

One set of the maps is about krypton-85 surface concentration. The maps show the band extending well beyond Tokyo and Kanagawa. [...]

I remember seeing posts in Japanese message boards that day and afterwards saying people had a metallic taste in their mouth that day, that people started to have nosebleed and fell ill. Both were attacked and dismissed as “malicious rumors”. [...]

When Hiroaki Koide of Kyoto University testified on May 23 in a government committee (Upper House, government oversight committee), the data he said he had been told by his superior not to publish was the data of radiation in Tokyo on March 15. [...]

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/06/fukushima-nuke-accident-wspeedi-shows.html


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Serpo
5th June 2011, 09:15 PM
Came across this site today. http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/fukushima.html

Basically, this guy thinks that the Israeli's installed mini nukes and Suxnet in all the reactors, set off a nuke to cause the tsunami, and forced the Japanese to cover up a 6.8 quake and call it a 9.1 quake. Very interesting thesis. Not complete quackery imho.

He did a 2 hour interview here about Fukushima. http://innersites.com/feet2fire/archives2011/f2f110529.htm
Scroll to the very bottom of the page and when you see hours 3 & 4, you can right click and save as.

I was reading another topic he had. Upcoming article: Antidepressant Nightmare (http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/antidepressants.html) Very interesting. I would like to see the whole thing when it comes out in July.


Just had a brief look and it does seem compelling to investigate this further.

Is this the reason for the lack of news ....THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE

lapis
6th June 2011, 11:45 AM
interesting article about magnesium being anti radiation....

Thanks for posting this! It's really well-written, and I wanted to emphasize some passages and/or add some comments to them:


"In the years leading up to Chernobyl, some dairy farmers in Austria were using remineralization as a part of their operations. They added rock dust to liquid manure as well as combining it with compost, thereby removing odors and greatly increasing soil biota. As a result, cows had twice the normal lifespan and produced much more milk. Amazingly enough, after Chernobyl, the cheeses that were remineralized (as well as biodynamic cheeses) measured no radioactivity whatsoever. Austrians would stand in long lines in order to buy these safe, remineralized products," writes Joanna Campe.


Just about everyone who is writing protocols for radiation toxicity is forgetting about the importance of magnesium salts. Worse still are governments and the entire institution of medicine that are purposely ignorant about magnesium, so they cannot possibly be trusted for valuable health and medical information that will help us in our time of dire need.

You can buy 5 lb. bags of Epsom Salts for pretty cheap at Costco.


Glutathione is Magnesium-Dependent

Glutathione protects the cells from oxidative-stress-induced apoptosis and glutathione levels are magnesium dependent! "Glutathione is a very important detoxifying agent, enabling the body to get rid of undesirable toxins and pollutants. It forms a soluble compound with the toxin that can then be excreted through the urine or the gut. The liver and kidneys contain high levels of glutathione as they have the greatest exposure to toxins. The lungs are also rich in glutathione partly for the same reason. Many cancer-producing chemicals, heavy metals, drug metabolites etc. are disposed of in this way," says Dr. Patricia Kongshavn, former professor, department of medicine at McGill University.

NOTE: Consuming raw dairy products also promotes the production of glutathione:

The Biochemical Magic of Raw Milk and Other Raw Foods: Glutathione (http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/2010/09/11/the-biochemical-magic-of-raw-milk-and-other-raw-foods-glutathione/)


Radiation and Diabetes

Researchers at the Pediatric Hospital A. Meyer, Florence, Italy studied this question by assessing the incidence of the disease in children in Gomel, Belarus in the years subsequent to the Chernobyl disaster. The results of the study seem to confirm the hypothesis that environmental pollution such as that subsequent to the Chernobyl accident can cause diabetes.

Mass screening for diabetes mellitus has been conducted on 64,000-113,000 atomic bomb survivors residing in Hiroshima City since 1961. From 1971 to 1992 a 2.7-fold increase in the prevalence of diabetes mellitus was observed in males and a 3.2-fold increase in females.

We have a significant and documented increase in the incidence of type 1 diabetes in children and adolescents after Chernobyl in the radioactively contaminated area of Gomel compared to Minsk.
- Heinrich Heine University

!!!!


When beginning to build a protocol against the radiation and heavy metal onslaught, we need to stick with the basics and they are magnesium, iodine, sodium bicarbonate, vitamin C, selenium, clay, THC (cannabis),? as well as a natural chelator and superfoods. Properly filtered water also is essential. There is always more we can do but even affording these basics is a challenge to many.

In addition to taking Epsom Salt baths, I've been taking more magnesium lately, especially this powder you add to water called Ionic Fizz (http://www.vitacost.com/Pure-Essence-Labs-Ionic-Fizz-Magnesium-Plus-Raspberry-Lemonade). I like it because it has other vitamins and minerals besides magnesium.

Taking a glass of this with a tablet of Kava extract puts me right to sleep at night. DOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!! never sleeps, but I need to. :D

lapis
6th June 2011, 12:02 PM
Serpo,
Noticed Dr. Russell Blaylock was quoted in this article and wish to highlight one of the portions your generously provided:


According to Dr. Russell Blaylock MD, CN, retired Neurosurgeon and now author/lecturer Excitoxins, and Nuclear Sunrise, low magnesium is associated with dramatic increases in free radical generation as well as glutathione depletion and this is vital since glutathione is one of the few antioxidant molecules known to neutralize mercury.


EDIT: made me immediately think of all the amalgam in my teeth.... nice to know in my old age I can finally do something to remove the Hg from my body from years of dental fixes, plus all those "thimerosal delivery" vaccinations...

+100. I think it also helps to take probiotics. I have some info. on that somewhere....


Would like to mention that upon learning of this glutathione necessity, my wife and I have added TUMERIC in capsule form to our daily regimen, a natural source of glutathione.

I've been adding it to everything, especially when no one is looking! ;D


Besides, we like "yellow colored things " around here, which includes the foods my wife already cooks with and includes this spice. ;D If further research uncovers a silver colored spice for the GS-US SILVER BUGS on here, you can be assured it will be posted promptly as well.

LOL!

lapis
6th June 2011, 12:19 PM
A word about the choice of capsules:
The gelatin capsules are made from bovine hide only, which avoids danger of mad cow disease (by rendering of bovine bones in making gelatin.)

VCaps, or vegetarian capsules are manufactured by Capsugel®, and are derived from 100% Southern pine bark. They contain mostly cellulose.

If you're going to take a lot of capsules, you may want to take the gelatin ones. Gelatin is known to be good for digestion, whereas cellulose isn't (I think that's what they use to make the enteric coating for some supplements).


A word about an important difference in the capsules:
GELATIN CAPSULES swell with humidity unless stored with a dessicant in jar/container.
Swelled capsules are tougher to insert AND remove from capsule fillers.

Properly stored, they keep forever. I order huge bags of them from my Frontier co-op.


Here's a pix of the unit. Truly, a tool that is so simple a CAVEMAN can use it. That means I figured it out without reading the pics even. (It's a guy thing! :D )

http://www.capsuleconnection.com/sites/www.capsuleconnection.com/files/images/capsule_machine.jpg


I have one of those, and I agree, they're so easy-to-use even a dumb girl like me with ZERO mechanical ability whatsoever has no trouble with it. ;)

gunDriller
6th June 2011, 02:00 PM
turns out that my first quart of Gossner milk, with a date code of January 11, 2012 - was made on March 11, 2011 ... the date of the earthquake/possible explosion/tsunami.

Dollar Tree has 1 quart Gossner - which doesn't have to be refrigerated - for $1.

i emailed them. they said local farms, in Utah, so, pretty far away from the Gulf & pre-Fukushima.

definitely time to back up the truck ! ;D

it's not as good as evaporated milk in coffee, though. :o

beefsteak
6th June 2011, 10:47 PM
Thank you Gunny [from the Mrs. :) ]

beefsteak
6th June 2011, 10:57 PM
Serpo,

Your post above where you highlight the necessity for Magnesium in our diets helped locate the following info posted for your and other's assistance.

What makes "THIS" different is the milligrams are also given per cupful...now THAT is food news we can use as my wife says. ;D



Getting magnesium from fruits and vegetables is easy but even for the health conscious among us, it's easy to forget to eat all of the foods necessary to maintain balanced nutrition.

An estimated two thirds of Americans are not consuming their daily recommended amount of magnesium. Here are 20 fruits and vegetables that are high in magnesium.

Spinach
Canned spinach contains 163 mg of magnesium per cup. Fresh unsalted cooked spinach contains 157 mg of magnesium per cup.

Beet Greens
Beet greens contain 98 mg per cup.

Dates
Dates contain 77 mg per cup.

Okra
Okra(frozen) contains about 74 mg per cup.

Artichokes
Artichokes contain 71 mg per cup.

Peas
Peas contain 71 mg per cup.

Papayas
Papayas contain 64 mg per cup.

Potatoes
Unpeeled potatoes contain 57 mg of magnesium per cup.

Pumpkin
Canned pumpkin contains 56 mg per cup.

Sweet Potatoes
Sweet potatoes contain 56 mg per cup.

Collard Greens
Cooked collard greens contain 51 mg per cup.

Corn
Yellow corn contains 48 mg per cup.

Squash
Squash contains about 43 mg per cup.

Cucumber
Cucumbers with skin intact contain 39 mg per cup and 34 mg per cup if peeled.

Rutabaga
Rutabaga contains about 39 mg per cup.

Broccoli
Cooked broccoli contains about 33 mg per cup.

Banana
One banana has about 32 mg of magnesium.

Brussels Sprouts
Cooked Brussels sprouts contain about 31 mg per cup.

Grapefruit
Both pink and white grapefruits contain about 20.7 mg of magnesium per cup.
http://www.healthdiaries.com/eatthis/20-fruits-and-vegetables-high-in-magnesium.html

:whistle


beefsteak

gunDriller
7th June 2011, 07:49 AM
Thank you Gunny [from the Mrs. :) ]


You're Totally Welcome !

i went back to Dollar Tree - sold out !

they get a new shipment in on Wednesday, we'll see what the "use by" dates are.

lapis
7th June 2011, 09:53 AM
it's not as good as evaporated milk in coffee, though. :o

Well, duh! Whachya doing messing around with kid's stuff? The only white thing fit to put in coffee is 100% heavy whipping cream! ;D

beefsteak
8th June 2011, 08:36 PM
Reports of this. Reports of that. To be filed. Already Filed. Run through the shredder. Take your pick.



http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/photo/DY20110608100458145L0.jpg



'Melt-through' at Fukushima? / Govt report to IAEA suggests situation worse than meltdown

The Yomiuri Shimbun

Nuclear fuel in three reactors at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant has possibly melted through pressure vessels and accumulated at the bottom of outer containment vessels, according to a government report obtained Tuesday by The Yomiuri Shimbun.

A "melt-through"--when melted nuclear fuel leaks from the bottom of damaged reactor pressure vessels into containment vessels-- is far worse than a core meltdown and is the worst possibility in a nuclear accident.

The possibility of the situation at the plant's Nos. 1 to 3 reactors was raised in a report that is to be submitted to the International Atomic Energy Agency.

If the report is released as is, it would be the first official recognition that a melt-through has occurred.

It was revealed earlier that sections of the bottom of the pressure vessels where control rods go through have been damaged. Highly radioactive water from inside the pressure vessels was confirmed to have leaked out of the containment vessels, even outside the buildings that house the reactors.

The report also acknowledges problems with the vertical administrative structure concerning nuclear safety regulations. As a result, the report says, who was responsible for keeping people safe in the event of a nuclear accident was not clear.

The report proposes separating the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency from the Economy, Trade and Industry Ministry and making it an independent organization. The report also proposes drastic reform of the nation's nuclear administration, including the Nuclear Safety Commission.

===

Vessel damaged 5 hours later
The pressure vessel of the No. 1 reactor at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant is believed to have been damaged five hours after the March 11 earthquake, according to an analysis by the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency.

The finding differs with a provisional analysis earlier released by plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co., which stated the the pressure vessel was believed to have been damaged 15 hours after the March 11 Great East Japan Earthquake.

On Monday, NISA, a nuclear watchdog body run by the Economy, Trade and Industry Ministry, disclosed the results of a detailed analysis regarding damage at the Nos. 1 to 3 nuclear reactors at the Fukushima facility. NISA estimates that the No. 2 reactor's pressure vessel was damaged 80 hours after the disaster. TEPCO's analysis contends the No. 2 reactor's pressure vessel was damaged 109 hours after the quake.

According to NISA's analysis, the No.1 reactor's core began suffering damage three hours after the earthquake.

The No. 1 reactor's pressure vessel was damaged at 8 p.m. on March 11, five hours after the earthquake. The No. 2 reactor's pressure vessel suffered damage at 10:50 p.m. on March 14, while the No. 3 reactor's pressure vessel suffered damage at 10:10 p.m. on March 14. NISA data showed the pressure vessels at the Nos. 1 and 2 reactors were damaged earlier than TEPCO's analysis showed.

On the other hand, the No. 3 reactor's pressure vessel was found to have been damaged 13 hours later than TEPCO's data showed.

NISA presumed the vessels failed when there was almost no water in the reactor cores of the Nos. 2 and 3 reactors.
(Jun. 8, 2011)
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T110607005367.htm


FUKUSHIMA NEWSCYCLE:
First: 24/7 coverage.
Second: LIES, LIES and More Damned Lies
Third: Deafening Silence, gag orders US Govt picks up the LYING football and sprints for the goal posts
FOURTH: Blizzard of "official reports/toilet paper"

beefsteak

PS: The Yomiuri Shimbun is a Japanese newspaper published in Tokyo, Osaka, Fukuoka, and other major Japanese cities. It is one of the five national newspapers in Japan; the other four are the Asahi Shimbun, the Mainichi Shimbun, Nihon Keizai Shimbun, and the Sankei Shimbun. The headquarters is located in Otemachi, Chiyoda, Tokyo.[2]

Founded in 1874, the Yomiuri Shimbun is credited with having the largest newspaper circulation in the world having a combined morning and evening circulation of 14,323,781 through January 2002. The paper is printed twice a day and in several different local editions.

Yomiuri Shimbun established the Yomiuri Prize in 1948. Its winners include Yukio Mishima and Haruki Murakami.

beefsteak
8th June 2011, 09:10 PM
JUNE 5th, New Vimeo:

Nuke Eng. Arnie Gunderson demystifies the NRC "law" and follow-up safety plans for "accidents" in the USofA.



http://vimeo.com/24704313

So, US is demanding more of Japan POST 3/11, than our own "safety planning" here stateside.

I'm shocked I tell you. Shocked. SHOCKED. SHOCKED!! :sarc:


beefsteak

beefsteak
9th June 2011, 12:45 AM
CNN's John King interviews Nuke Eng. Arnie Gunderson, June 7, 2011



http://vimeo.com/24803980

10 Particles, aka "fuel fleas" lodging in lungs, and even bone in WEST COAST's SEATTLE as posted on GS-US earlier.

beefsteak

beefsteak
10th June 2011, 10:27 PM
No Tea for Two from 100 SW of TOKYO : June 9, 2011


Radioactive tea above legal limit found 100 miles southwest of Tokyo
June 9th, 2011 at 08:22 AM

http://enenews.com/radioactive-tea-above-legal-limit-found-100-miles-southwest-tokyo


AND


Friday, June 10, 2011

Shizuoka tells tea retailer to conceal radiation info
KYODO News

Shizuoka — Shizuoka Prefecture told a Tokyo-based mail order company not to say anything on its website about excessive radioactive material being found in tea from the prefecture, the retailer said Friday.

After Radishbo-ya Co. made an inquiry to the Shizuoka Prefectural Government about the matter Monday, a prefectural official told the company not to disclose the finding due to fears the message would cause unwarranted harm to Shizuoka tea growers, adding that the prefecture would confirm the finding on its own, according to the retailer.

Radishbo-ya, for its part, sent purchasers of the tea letters informing them about the radiation and offered to recall the products.

Shizuoka is a famous tea production area.

"The official (who talked with Radishbo-ya) apparently feared that any warning issued through its website could fan public anxiety," a prefectural official said,

The prefecture publicly said Thursday it found excessive amounts of radioactive cesium in tea leaves processed at a plant for shipment to the retailer.
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/rss/nn20110610x3.html

Serpo
12th June 2011, 12:26 AM
Serpo,

Your post above where you highlight the necessity for Magnesium in our diets helped locate the following info posted for your and other's assistance.

What makes "THIS" different is the milligrams are also given per cupful...now THAT is food news we can use as my wife says. ;D



:whistle


beefsteak

A lot of these foods say they have a lot of magnesium but unless the ground is fed dolomite in stead of lime I cannot see how this food can have this much magnesium.It is something everyone lacks in the diet as most ground is limed to balance ph and dolomite is more expensive.

Serpo
12th June 2011, 12:30 AM
No Tea for Two from 100 SW of TOKYO : June 9, 2011


June 9th, 2011 at 08:22 AM

http://enenews.com/radioactive-tea-above-legal-limit-found-100-miles-southwest-tokyo


AND

Yes this could fan public anxiety or what is more important ruin the tea growing area......people come second....tea first.

Serpo
12th June 2011, 12:34 AM
The latest headlines from .............

http://enenews.com/

20,000 attend one Tokyo anti-nuclear protest, says organizer — 13 other events across city
June 11th, 2011 at 11:03 PM

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June 11th, 2011 at 10:29 PM

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Fukushima is already at or above Chernobyl levels and it continues to release significant amounts of radiation, says former U.S. Energy Dept. official
June 11th, 2011 at 08:48 PM

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Head of Fukushima health study: 100 mSv/yr OK for pregnant moms — “Effects of radiation do not come to people that are happy… They come to people that are weak-spirited”
June 11th, 2011 at 07:18 PM

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Trouble at SFP No. 4: Water injections not enough to cool pool — Workers find large hole in wall
June 11th, 2011 at 06:13 PM

TEPCO forced to review reactor 4 cooling plan, NHK, June 12, …Read More
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Workers found with over 600 millisieverts of radiation after being in control rooms of Reactors No. 3 and 4 — Only tested them for iodine and cesium
June 11th, 2011 at 10:31 AM

Fukushima workers’ exposure tops 650mSV, NHK, June 10, 2011:

[...] The …Read More
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Japan Gov’t tells residents that 20 millisieverts/year is not too high of a limit — Could have allowed 100 mSv
June 11th, 2011 at 09:57 AM

Young parents moving away from areas near damaged Fukushima plant, Mainichi …Read More
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TEPCO: We’ll do utmost to get plant under control; Still huge number of obstacles — Decontamination system malfunctions during test run
June 11th, 2011 at 08:49 AM

Many challenges at Fukushima Daiichi nuke plant, NHK, June 11, 2011:

…Read More
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On the Rise: Highest level of Cesium-137 in Bay Area topsoil since April
June 11th, 2011 at 07:55 AM

UCB Food Chain Sampling Results, University of California, Berkeley Department of …Read More
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Young parents leaving towns 50 km from plant — Local officials unable to encourage residents to evacuate until national and prefectural gov’t says so
June 11th, 2011 at 06:51 AM

Young parents moving away from areas near damaged Fukushima plant, Mainichi …Read More
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Paper: Hard to imagine something much more frightening than 5-year-olds marching off to irradiated school playgrounds with Geiger counters strapped to their chests
June 11th, 2011 at 06:10 AM

Unthinkable nuclear woes may yet become normal in Japan, Irish Times, …Read More
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Prime Minister’s former adviser: Gov’t worsened radiation exposure — Says thyroid cancer expected in children from Fukushima and nearby prefectures
June 11th, 2011 at 04:52 AM

Former adviser says government worsened radiation exposure, DPA, June 11, 2011:

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Gov’t tells company to conceal info on radioactive tea leaves because of “public anxiety”
June 10th, 2011 at 07:21 PM

Shizuoka tells tea retailer to conceal radiation info, Kyodo, June 10, …Read More
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100,000,000 becquerels per cubic centimeter of radioactivity estimated for Fukushima sludge
June 10th, 2011 at 11:31 AM

Sludge from contaminated water would be packed with radioactive substances: TEPCO, …Read More
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Inland Tsunami? Dam breaking could inundate nuke plant near Omaha — Equivalent of Fukushima’s tsunami (AUDIO)
June 10th, 2011 at 10:50 AM

Arnie Gundersen: NEBRASKA NUKE DISASTER – Flood, Fire and Heat, “Five …Read More
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Fukushima Daiichi worker found unconscious
June 10th, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant workers, a dormitory in the unconscious, …Read More
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Work suspended at Reactor No. 3 — Radiation too high
June 10th, 2011 at 09:30 AM

Radiation in No. 3 reactor too high for work, NHK, June …Read More
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Fire knocks out spent fuel cooling at nuclear plant near Omaha — Operating under heightened alert level because of nearby flooding on Missouri River
June 10th, 2011 at 08:11 AM

Electrical Fire Knocks Out Spent Fuel Cooling at Nebraska Nuclear Plant, …Read More
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Discussion Thread for June 10 – June 16, 2011
June 10th, 2011 at 07:59 AM

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Jana Press films “mutant rabbit” born near Fukushima Daiichi (VIDEO)

beefsteak
12th June 2011, 10:45 AM
Strontium found in groundwater near stricken Fukushima plant

Jun 12, 2011, 14:12 GMT


TOKYO- Radioactive contamination from the stricken nuclear power facility Fukushima has worsened, the operators Tepco warned Sunday, with probes of groundwater turning up traces of strontium that were 240 times above the allowable maximum limit.

Nuclear regulatory authorities reported finding the dangerously radioactive element near the damaged reactors 1 and 2.

The Kyodo news agency said it was the first discovery of strontium in the groundwater and was possibly caused by leakage resulting from pipelines being stopped up.

Meanwhile Tepco said that due to technical problems it could not yet start testing a new facility to decontaminate the tainted water.

Tepco had planned to start a week of testing on Friday, but due to the problems the start-up of the new facility - originally targeted for mid-June - would be delayed.

The decontamination facility poses a key element in Tepco's hopes of recycling the thousands of tons of highly-contaminated water used for cooling the reactors.
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http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asiapacific/news/article_1645035.php/Strontium-found-in-groundwater-near-stricken-Fukushima-plant (http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asiapacific/news/article_1645035.php/Strontium-found-in-groundwater-near-stricken-Fukushima-plant)
(http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asiapacific/news/article_1645035.php/Strontium-found-in-groundwater-near-stricken-Fukushima-plant)==========================
The left out part?

Maggie Gunderson, Nuke Eng. Arnie Gunderson's wife, and founder of Fairewinds, replied to an earlier email question, made the following observation:

"Testing for Strontium 90 is an extremely complicated testing procedure. As a result. the outcome is not known for a minimum of 60 days AFTER the sample was taken."

So, for this to register 240X ABOVE the maximum allowable limit means A) the groundwater was "severely contaminated back on April 13th" a mere month after the explosions and meltdowns using 6/11/2011 is the info release date. One could easily guestimate with a reasonable degree of certainty, that the groundwater pollution with St-90 occurred much earlier than April 13 according to Mrs. Gunderson's observation, due to such a stellar track record of "TEPCO TRANSPARENCY" and rapid reporting policy to the general public, let alone the planet's village residents. *sarc*

beefsteak
12th June 2011, 11:32 AM
Trouble at SFP No. 4: Water injections not enough to cool pool — Workers find large hole in wall


June 11th, 2011 at 06:13 PM
TEPCO forced to review reactor 4 cooling plan (http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/12_02.html),

NHK, June 12, 2011:

The operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has been forced to reconsider its plan to cool the spent fuel storage pool of the No.4 reactor.

Water injection from a special vehicle has not been intense enough to cool the water in the pool, allowing the temperature to remain at more than 80 degrees Celsius.

Tokyo Electric Power Company, or TEPCO, aims to install a circulatory cooling system that will pump water out of the pool and return it there as coolant. The utility originally hoped to put the system in place next month.

On Friday, {June 10, 2011} workers entered the 4th floor of the No.4 reactor building where the pool is located for the first time since the nuclear disaster took place.

They found a large hole in a wall created by the March 15th explosion. They also discovered that a nearby pipe necessary for the cooling system had been mangled.

TEPCO says the repair team found it hard to work near the pool as equipment had been destroyed and debris was scattered on the floor. :o :o :o

Fixing the damaged pipe is expected to be extremely difficult. In addition, it remains unclear if there is another pipe that can be used for the cooling system.

Sunday, June 12, 2011 05:07 +0900 (JST)


Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, okay?

It seems to me that there has been no prior mention on this thread of an explosion in Reactor 4, prior to this NHK report, yes? So, I went and checked some photos,

Aerial photos posted below, and reading Dai-ichi from lower left to upper right, we see 1 & 3 demolished, and 2 and 4 still outer containment still "intact," yes?http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201103/r734240_5947533.jpg


Something's fishy here...as I recall much has been claimed about #4 not being damaged and the spent fuel pool intact where the 1500+ used fuel rods of all kinds are stored. hmmmm....Then I found this photo:

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/update/images/12_02_v_s.jpg
Slightly different perspective yes?

Could someone please explain to me how there is "any floor" to walk onto or observe debris on level 4 let alone a "hole in the fuel pool wall" after reviewing this photo and then re-reading the 6/12 story released above? Photoshopped perhaps ? ?

beefsteak

Serpo
12th June 2011, 04:25 PM
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/06/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-reactor-4-4th.html

#Fukushima I Nuke Plant Reactor 4: 4th Floor Photos

The spent fuel pool occupies part of the 4th floor and the 5th floor. These pictures were taken (I'm sure they took more) by the workers on June 10.

In the first photo, you can see the pipe that's bent. That was the pipe that TEPCO was counting on to connect the cooling system for the Spent Fuel Pool, according to Jiji News (6/11/2011). The cooling system for the Reactor 4 Spent Fuel Pool won't be operational at least until July, as TEPCO will have to either fix the pipe or come up with alternative connection.

The second photo shows a mess of broken pipes, concrete bits and equipments. Any mechanics, engineers, who want to dissect the photo?

The Reactor 4 was in a scheduled maintenance when the earthquake hit on March 11. All the fuel rods had been moved to the Spent Fuel Pool. The workers were in the process of replacing the stainless-steel shroud of the Reactor Pressure Vessel at the time of the earthquake.

From TEPCO's Photo for Press page (click to enlarge):

Serpo
12th June 2011, 04:59 PM
Saturday, June 11, 2011
Just How Many People Showed Up at 6.11 No-Nuke Demonstrations on June 11?

Even the Japanese MSM had to report the events somewhat, which means the number of participants throughout Japan was probably significant even for the MSM.

That doesn't stop them from downplaying the number, though. Just like the US MSM.

The best (for MSM) coverage goes to Asahi Shinbun, who treated the news of the nationwide events as one of the top news. The article at Asahi has pictures and videos of the protests in various parts of the country, and pins the number of participants as follows:

20,000 in one demonstration in Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo, quoting the number by the event organizer;
200 in Koriyama-City, Fukushima Prefecture.

No other information on any other events. There were at least 14 events in Tokyo that were carried live on the net. Including the events that weren't net-casted, there were over 20 events in Tokyo alone. Throughout Japan, the 6.11 No-Nukes site lists 174 events worldwide.

Moving on, Sankei Shinbun only reports on the event in Yoyogi Park in Tokyo:

1,500 people

Yomiuri Shinbun is even more hilarious, and the only number the paper is willing to put out is:

200 people in Kashiwazaki, Niigata Prefecture

Kyodo News says several thousands in Paris, but no number for any event in Japan.

Mainichi Shinbun doesn't even carry the news.

Unofficial numbers for some events in Tokyo and Kanagawa, from the tweets:

20,000 in Shinjuku, Tokyo
6,000 in Shiba Park, Tokyo
1,500 in Yoyogi Park, Tokyo
700 in Kunitachi City, Tokyo
4,000 Yokohama, Kanagawa

Not too bad for a rainy day and for a country not used to go against any official, government policy.

BBC and the US's NPR reported the Tokyo number as 5,000.

New York Times has an article on the event in Tokyo (probably Shinjuku, as the article say 20,000 people attended), which concludes with a cynical remark by a bystander, a 21-year-old girl, saying "It looks fun, but if you think anything will change, it’s naïve."

You watch, girl.

Usual detractors are there in numbers, too; there are tweets attacking those who attended the demonstrations, calling them "naive idiots" for ignoring the need for electricity generated by the nuke plants. Hey just like the girl in the NYT article...

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/06/just-how-many-people-showed-up-at-611.html

osoab
12th June 2011, 05:09 PM
beef,

I was under the impression that #4 had blown. Which makes no sense if the reactor was unloaded. Where did the hydrogen come from to blow the roof? #4 is like Bldg 7.

keehah
12th June 2011, 05:11 PM
AlexanderHiggins.com: Radiation Levels In Reactor One Spike At 261 Sv Per Hour – Indications of Ongoing Criticality (http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/06/12/fukushima-radiation-nears-chernobyl-spiking-261000000-usvhr-ongoing-nuclear-meltdown-26401/)

The radiation levels in Reactor 1 Drywell has spiked to a new record high 261 Sv/hr. This is a sign of pretty consistent criticality in the reactor. The corium has breached the core containment, and is releasing radiation without TEPCO acknowledging the implications of this constant criticality. The pressure level in Reactor 1 has dropped to atmospheric levels, indicating the breach in containment.

The rising levels of radiation in the drywell also indicate that the efforts to control the fuel inside the reactor from going critical is becoming unmanageable. The radiation is emanating from the reactor, and levels around the Number 1 Building are rising instead of gradually decreasing, another indicator of ongoing criticality.

Italy's nuclear power referendum gets under way (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/12/italy-nuclear-referendum-silvio-berlusconi)

Pro-nuclear Berlusconi urges Italians to say 'no' while trying to limit turnout in key ballot
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 12 June 2011

Italians have begun voting in the world's first nuclear power referendum since Japan's Fukushima disaster, a vital ballot that represents a trial of strength between Italy's increasingly beleaguered prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi and his critics.

A majority yes vote could block his dream of generating a quarter of Italy's electricity needs with nuclear power. But the outcome of the ballot will only be valid if there is a turnout of at least 50% and Berlusconi's rightwing government has been doing all it can to limit participation.

Berlusconi, directly or indirectly, controls six of Italy's seven main television channels and news bulletins had scarcely mentioned the vote, despite nuclear power being an issue that stirs passionate feelings, until a few days ago when the country's media watchdog stepped in among Italians.

The prime minister has said he does not intend to vote and his government tried to scotch the ballot in a failed court appeal.

A turnout of more than 50% would be a second humiliating blow to the prime minister following defeat in last month's local elections in his home city of Milan.

After the courts threw out the government's appeal against the nuclear referendum, opposition groups mounted an energetic campaign to increase turnout.

beefsteak
12th June 2011, 09:00 PM
beef,

I was under the impression that #4 had blown. Which makes no sense if the reactor was unloaded. Where did the hydrogen come from to blow the roof? #4 is like Bldg 7.

I don't know, Osoab. Good questions. Not many answers...at least not many reliable answers released at this time. Many theories. I read one today that when #3 blew, because of interconnectivity it {the hydrogen} immediately flowed through to #4 and it was a simultaneous explosion. Have no idea if that is even plausible!

What bothers me is that the most we can learn about Fukushima, frankly, is what is currently going on at Ft Calhoun north of Omaha. It is also a G.E. BWR, Mark I model. Nuke Engineer Arnie Gunderson spoke at length about it from a prior BWR operator's perspective in a 40+min audio interview on some radio show called "Five O'Clock Shadow." Never heard of it before today.

Anyhow, the host had some of the NRC filings/reports from Ft Calhoun after the 4000 Volt Powerline fire there last week. Said event shut down --for reportedly 90 minutes-- the cooling system on Ft. Calhoun's spent fuel pool before service was restored to the cooling system. The only good news is, that the damage is so severe, the reloading of Ft. Calhoun reactor has been postponed due to gigantic repairs that need to be made to its infrastructure.

Arnie G dissected and parsed the reports filed with the NRC on this incident. That is the most I've heard about a Mark I BWR by G.E., since the Fukushima blowouts. Arnie's deeply concerned for an "inland tsunami" from the overflowing Missouri River currently underway. He stated the design limits of the earthen dams is within 1 foot of stressed beyond design limits.
Scary stuff.

Very astute of Arnie G. to use the developing situation at Ft. Calhoun Mark I BWR as an parallel type/educational presentation to understanding the flooded Fukushima nuke disasters. He stated the sand bags were already being laid at the very reactor building at Ft. Calhoun. :o :o :o

http://www.radio4all.net/files/theknightreport@gmail.com/3862-1-Fort_Calhoun_-_Arnie_Gunderson_with_Robert_Knight_-_WBAI_Five_OClock_Shadow.mp3

We listened twice at our house. Didn't understand everything Arnie G said, but wife and I understood enough.

beefsteak

beefsteak
12th June 2011, 09:11 PM
Good catches there, Keehah! Thanks for posting!

keehah
12th June 2011, 09:37 PM
Its time to drop the hydrogen explosion disinfo the corporatemediapropaganda used at the start. Many of us saw it as a lie from the start and now even the corporate media, government sociopaths and wiki admit nuclear meltdowns occured in those three reactors.

Reactor 4 had no fuel rods in the reactor, but like others had much more and dirtier nuclear fuel stored on top of the reactor in flimsy tanks so thightly it would have a nuclear meltdown and explode if the water cooling slowed for some reason.

"http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/13/temperature-rise-fukushima-reactor-4-fuels-fear-spent-fuel-rods-melting-16893/" (http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/13/temperature-rise-fukushima-reactor-4-fuels-fear-spent-fuel-rods-melting-16893/)
(I can't belive the work it takes with the new solftware's fascist defaults that act in attempt to prevent me from posting an internet link one can read. Fascists trying to dumb everthing down!)
[typing html code by hand now since this is an edit using the new software:]

Tepco also said it has found elements in the nuclear 4 spent fuel storage pool that are only caused during nuclear fission. This provides evidence that there is a meltdown underway [April 13] in the number 4 reactor.

As previously noted there is no containment in the #4 reactor and top officials have raised concerns that any radioactivity leaking from reactor #4 are being released directly into the environment.

Another edit to add:
Radioactive mushrooms contaminated in Chernobyl disaster seized at British port (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2002415/Radioactive-mushrooms-contaminated-Chernobyl-disaster-seized-British-port.html#ixzz1PAbedh4l)

A ton of mushrooms containing ten times the safe level of a radioactive metal has been seized and destroyed by health chiefs.

The Bulgarian consignment of dried wild mushrooms is thought to have been irradiated by caesium 137 from the Chernobyl disaster in Ukraine 25 years ago...

Levels of radiation are measured in becquerels. The EU sets a maximum limit for caesium 137 in food of 600 becquerels per kilogram – double the level in Japan.

But the amount of radioactivity found in the mushrooms destined for British families was more than 6,000 becquerels...

The mushrooms were discovered on May 6 at Humber Sea Terminal, North Lincolnshire. Details emerged last night in a report by port health chiefs.

Investigators initially thought the radiation was linked to food affected by the meltdown at the Fukushima nuclear power plant in Japan two months ago.

beefsteak
12th June 2011, 10:57 PM
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The left out part?

Maggie Gunderson, Nuke Eng. Arnie Gunderson's wife, and founder of Fairewinds, replied to an earlier email question, made the following observation: detecting Strontium 90 is an extremely complicated testing procedure. As such, the results are not known for a minimum of 60 days AFTER the sample was taken.

So, for this to register 240X ABOVE the maximum allowable limit means A) the groundwater was "severely contaminated back on April 13th" a mere month after the explosions and meltdowns using 6/11/2011 is the info release date. One could easily guestimate with a reasonable degree of certainty, that the groundwater pollution with St-90 occurred much earlier than April 13 according to Mrs. Gunderson's observation, due to such a stellar track record of "TEPCO TRANSPARENCY" and rapid reporting policy to the general public, let alone the planet's village residents. *sarc*

Gundersons' Strontium-90 test protocols which they deem reliable
VERSUS
TEPCO's 6,13,2011 supposed 3wk "quicky test..." version posted below.
Bet TEPCO's St-90 sample is: A) older than 3wks, and B) about 200x worse than they are "copping to..." if past history is any indicator of TEPCO's forthrightness



Excessive levels of strontium detected in seawater
Radioactive strontium that exceeds the government-set safety level was detected for the first time in sea water in the inlet next to the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

Tokyo Electric Power Company, or TEPCO, reported that strontium-90, at a level 53 times higher than the safety standard was detected in samples taken from inside an inlet used exclusively by the nuclear plant, on May 16.

TEPCO also said that strontinum-90 was detected at a level 170 times higher than the standard in samples also taken on May 16, near the water intakes outside reactor number 2.

At the reactor number 3 water intakes, the level was 240 times higher than the legal safety limit.

The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency says the result is not beyond their expectations because the substance was detected in an inlet used exclusively by the power plant. They say they will closely monitor the fish and shellfish in the affected area.

TEPCO announced that strontium-90 was also detected for the first time in ground water near the reactors' buildings.

A ground water sample taken on May 18, around reactor number 2, measured 6,300 becquerels per liter. And for reactor number one, the sample showed 22 becquerels.

TEPCO explained it usually takes about 3 weeks to analyze the samples.

With a comparatively long half-life of 29 years, radioactive strontium can accumulate in the bones if inhaled, and poses a risk of cancer.
Monday, June 13, 2011 06:03 +0900 (JST)
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/13_02.html ==============
Just a reminder:

Strontium 90 decays to Yttrium which is the basis for the majority of Pancreatic Cancers and most of all the diabetes cases. Attributed Source higher in this thread to an expert other than neurosurgeon, Russell Blaylock, MD.

Ode to Joy :( *sarc*

beefsteak

gunDriller
13th June 2011, 03:14 AM
beef,

I was under the impression that #4 had blown. Which makes no sense if the reactor was unloaded. Where did the hydrogen come from to blow the roof? #4 is like Bldg 7.

hot metal + water = steam explosion.


normally it's supposed to be controlled (to get electricity).

i wonder if they had an uncontrolled steam explosion. water can carry an enormous amount of energy when it's in the form of steam.

Steam to water to Steam curve for Rankine engine - couldn't find one for Fukushima category nuclear steam generator.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Rankine_cycle_Ts.png/600px-Rankine_cycle_Ts.png

goes from .87 psi to 725 psi (49 atmospheres.)

i think an un-controlled nuclear steam reaction would generate pressures higher than 49 atmospheres. imagine just 725 psi on a roof measuring 40 x 40 feet - 1600 square feet, 230,000 square inches.

167,040,000 pounds.

that would blow a roof off.

LastResort
13th June 2011, 06:59 AM
Now that I can actually post here I have to give a big "thanks" for those keeping me updated with this thread.

sirgonzo420
13th June 2011, 07:01 AM
Now that I can actually post here I have to give a big "thanks" for those keeping me updated with this thread.


. . . . fred?

LastResort
13th June 2011, 07:16 AM
. . . . fred?

Not sure what you're getting at but I was registered at the old GIM and i tried registering here when the site first started with no luck.

beefsteak
13th June 2011, 10:27 AM
Good to have you aboard, LastResort! And welcome back!

We're all in this particular soup together. All hands on deck. There are many fine contributors on here allright. And my wife and I are indebted to each and everyone of them!

beefsteak

Serpo
13th June 2011, 02:36 PM
Hot Particles From Japan to Seattle Virtually Undetectable when Inhaled or Swallowed VID

http://vimeo.com/25002205

Serpo
13th June 2011, 03:49 PM
Now its on NATURAL NEWS


http://www.naturalnews.com/032692_Fukushima_earthquake.html#ixzz1P8fcCdrH

Japan not hit by 9.0 quake? False flag nuclear weaponry actually destroyed Fukushima, claims report

Sunday, June 12, 2011 by: Ethan A. Huff, staff writer





(NaturalNews) What if the alleged 9.0+ magnitude mega earthquake that was said to have hit off the coast of Japan back on March 11 never actually happened, and the resultant tsunami that destroyed the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant was actually a deliberate, false flag attack using nuclear weapons? Freelance journalist Jim Stone offers compelling evidence that the official story we have all been told concerning the disaster is a phony coverup for a concerted attack against Japan, possibly for offering to enrich uranium for Iran.

An actual 9.0+ mega-quake would have leveled the whole country of Japan
Consider first the massive impact of an actual 9.0 magnitude earthquake, which would have been about 100 times more powerful than the 6.8 magnitude Great Hanshin earthquake of 1995 that destroyed much of the city of Kobe, located about 12.5 miles from the epicenter, and that killed more than 6,400 people. If the March 11 earthquake in Japan was actually a 9.0, it would have devastated everything within a 1,000-mile radius of the epicenter -- and yet the city of Sendai, for example, which is only about 48 miles from the epicenter, suffered virtually no structural damage whatsoever.

Truth be told, the only areas that suffered any significant damage at all were areas hit by the tsunami, which included the Fukushima nuclear plant. Besides the immense damage that occurred at the tsunami-hit nuclear plant, there was virtually no seismic damage in any other towns or cities near the epicenter that were not hit by the tsunami, which suggests that the earthquake could not have been anywhere close to a 9.0. According to Stone's review, the size of the earthquake that hit off Japan's coast actually registered at only about a 6.67 magnitude, according to some readings, while the tsunami that ensued was the equivalent of what would have occurred during an actual 9.0.

Cities and towns hit by tsunami appeared strangely unaware that it was even coming
Another factor to consider is that the towns and cities hit by the tsunami appeared to be largely unaware that it was even coming until moments before it arrived. If a 9.0 earthquake had actually hit as claimed, these areas would have not only experienced monumental destruction beforehand, but people living in them would have already been evacuating the area between when the earthquake supposedly hit, and roughly 40 minutes later when the tsunami actually arrived.

Various video clips and photos in towns and cities about to be hit by the approaching tsunami reveal that business was largely taking place a usual just minutes before it hit. People are shown walking around, buildings are intact, and little appears to be out of place, despite the fact that a mega-quake has supposedly just occurred. Take a look for yourself at Stone's information, as well as photos and videos captured, and think to yourself whether or not the official story makes sense in light of what actually took place (http://www.abeldanger.net/2011/05/j...).

The damage at Fukushima, and particularly at non-operational Reactor 4, could not have occurred simply from flooding or an earthquake
According to Stone's analysis, the damage that took place at the Fukushima nuclear facility could not have been the result of just flooding or even a 9.0 earthquake, assuming that one actually occurred. High-resolution aerial images of the damaged plant taken on March 24 show not only a completely missing Reactor 3, despite ongoing reports that it was still there, but also a completely demolished Reactor 4.

Remember the massive explosion that took place at Reactor 3 just a few days after the tsunami hit? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw2A...) Blamed on hydrogen buildup, this disastrous event could not have occurred as a result of damage caused by the earthquake or tsunami because a special emergency hydrogen stack designed specifically to deal with hydrogen buildup had been installed at Fukushima following the disastrous Three Mile Island accident. This special hydrogen stack does not require electricity to run, so it was fully operational during the time of the explosion and would have mitigated any hydrogen buildup.

And what about the mysterious Reactor 4 explosion, which occurred despite the fact that the reactor had been de-fueled, and was allegedly non-operational? Even in a worst-case scenario where its fuel rods completely melt down, the type of explosion that would follow would not be capable of literally disintegrating Reactor 4's thick, concrete walls, which is what actually occurred. And Reactor 4 was so heavily damaged by this explosion that it was expected to literally collapse.

So what caused these massive explosions in Reactors 3 and 4 to occur? According to Stone, nuclear weaponry was used to forcibly demolish these structures. Magna BSP, a security firm, allegedly installed massive "security cameras" inside the reactors prior to the disaster. These cameras weighed over 1,000 pounds, and look oddly similar to uranium gun-type nuclear bombs (http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/co...).

When you put two and two together, it appears as though nuclear weapons disguised as security cameras may have been used to blow up Fukushima's reactors. Perhaps this explains the reason for the information blackout on Reactor 4 that occurred in the days following the disaster (http://www.naturalnews.com/031758_F...).

Add to the mix a nuclear-induced tsnuami and corresponding earthquake, and you have the perfect scapegoat for deliberately targeting a nuclear facility and blaming it on natural causes.

A critical analysis of the facts actually makes the official story look like a conspiracy theory
Before dismissing this information as just another wacky conspiracy theory, take the time to review Stone's analysis, and think critically about the basic laws of physics in light of the information we have been told by the media. Would a real 9.0 earthquake have left nearby cities that were not hit by the tsunami undamaged? Why did the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) withhold crucial information about Reactor 4 for so long? And why did such massive damage occur from supposed explosions that, in reality, could not have physically caused them?

These and other questions raise doubt about the official story concerning the Japan earthquake and tsunami. Of course, the reasons why anyone would inflict this type of disaster on purpose is a different subject entirely, but that the disaster appears to have been deliberately caused is a possibility that every critical-thinking person would do best to consider.



And this link here is worth a look.................

http://www.abeldanger.net/2011/05/japan-earthquake-registered-only-667.html

Serpo
13th June 2011, 03:59 PM
2. Reactor 4 is building 7, demolished by explosives. [爆発物によって破壊された] Reactor 4 had been defueled and was undergoing replacement of it's internal stainless steel shroud, yet blew it's containment anyway. That is the FINAL smoking gun, an empty reactor is inert, and cannot produce an explosion, yet one happened at 4 that was so powerful it destroyed the structure leaving it in danger of falling over. Overheated open fuel pools cannot produce hydrogen because in an open fuel pool the water boils off at 100 Celsius, and won't be present in pressurized form at 2,000 degrees Celsius to liberate it's hydrogen by losing it's oxygen to the zircon cladding in the fuel rods. The rods will prefer the free oxygen in the air and burn long before attempting to claim the oxygen in whatever humidity there might be. The fact that the rods can catch fire only enforces the fact that they cannot release hydrogen in open air the way they can in a reactor. If you entertain the fantasy that they could, another problem against buildup presents itself - the hydrogen would be safely burned the moment it was created on the surface of the superheated rods. There would be no buildup. Fuel rods are many orders of magnitude below incapable of going supercritical also, even if totally melted down. The explosion at #4 was flatly impossible.

Reactor 4's dome was removed for defueling. Drone photos prove it. This dispels the rumors surrounding unit 4's explosion. Some people have said that this reactor was secretly in operation to enrich plutonium. This photo proves it was disassembled for shroud replacement as stated. Tepco is going out of it's way trying to explain the explosions, especially at reactor 4, because they did indeed occur, so an explanation is needed. As a result, they are giving reasons that cannot happen, just to say something. They need to see this post and get the Arava perspective(Arava is a district surrounding Dimona).
http://www.abeldanger.net/2011/05/japan-earthquake-registered-only-667.html

lapis
13th June 2011, 06:12 PM
I'm bummed we don't have a thanks feature on this new forum. Besides giving thanks for members' contributions, it was also a nice way to keep track of which posts I'd read.

beefsteak
13th June 2011, 07:04 PM
'Controlled' power cuts likely as Sun storm threatens national grid

By Steve Connor, Science Editor, in Boulder, Colorado

Monday, 13 June 2011


http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/dynamic/00614/5200235_614314t.jpg (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/controlled-power-cuts-likely-as-sun-storm-threatens-national-grid-2296748.html?action=Gallery)
REUTERS
Solar storms create problems on Earth

Officials in Britain and the United States are preparing to make controlled power cuts to their national electricity supplies in response to a warning of a possible powerful solar storm hitting the Earth. In an interview with The Independent, Thomas Bogdan, director of the US Space Weather Prediction Centre, said that controlled power "outages" will protect the National Electricity Grids against damage which could take months or even years to repair should a large solar storm collide with the Earth without any precautions being taken.

Mr Bogdan is in close discussions with scientists in the UK Met Office to set up a second space weather prediction centre in Britain to co-ordinate a global response to a threat viewed seriously by both the US and UK governments. One topic of discussion is how to protect national electricity grids from the immense power surges caused by the geomagnetic storms which happen when highly energetic solar particles collide with the Earth's magnetic field.

The most vulnerable parts of the grid are the hundreds of transformers connected to power lines many miles long that can experience sudden current surges during a geomagnetic solar storm, Dr Bogdan said. "It points to a potential scenario where large parts of either North America or northern Europe may be without power from between days or weeks, to perhaps months and, in extreme cases, there are estimates that it could last years," Dr Bogdan said.

The aim of the joint US-UK collaboration is to improve solar weather forecasting to a point where it is possible to warn power companies of an imminent storm. There is a feeling that if a "category 5" solar storm – the biggest of the five categories – were to be predicted, then taking the grid off-line before it is due to hit Earth and letting the storm pass would be better than trying to keep things running, he said.

In 1989, a solar geomagentic storm knocked out the electricity grid across large parts of Canada. The loss cascaded across the United States and caused power problems as far away as California. The greatest fear is a massive storm as big as the one documented by astronomer Richard Carrington in 1859, which burnt out telegraph wires. [[OH YEAH? ? ? ]]


"The sort of storms capable of doing that are fairly rare events. We refer to them as 'black swans'," Dr Bogdan said. "If the Carrington event occurred today, and power grid operators did not take efforts to safeguard their infrastructure, then we could be facing a scenario like that."===============


Relevance?


This thread recalls earlier iterations of what TPTB want to create fear in order to control us, yes?


Poisoned food, air, water, soil, spinach to salmon, peak oil, it's all bad for us. Now, we are to fear the SUN vis a vis control of our electricity wrested from us?

Nuke Plants are all about electrical power generation. And depopulation it would appear.

So, if we are going to take down Nukes, then we are going to have to become slaves to "smart grid masters" and now fear them even more to cook our bread and wash out clothes and cool our homes, let alone run our computers, gas pumps, ATMs, Cr Cards, and railway / transportation systems.

The point of relevance is this: I smell another false flag event on the come...will it be an "unannounced practice power interruption?" Don't recall invitations being issued to Fukushima event, nor WTC, nor GoM.

Oh, and before I forget....it wasn't a solar storm story crippling the power grid in Canada, which cascaded into the US. Talk about re-writing history, yes? Please correct me if I'm not remembering correctly!

How many GS-USers are on smart grid meters now? Might be an enlightening ad hoc poll.


I'll start...NOPE...but we've been informed in the "monthly P&L bill that it's coming"


So 1 for the Nope, not smart grid yet column.


beefsteak

keehah
14th June 2011, 12:21 AM
No to nuclear power, no to privitizing water, no to allowing polticians to do illegal things. Highest turnout in almost 20 years.

Italy PM Berlusconi suffers referendum defeat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1BJhY-Ezrk

Serpo
14th June 2011, 04:12 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9a0Q1v93SA

Shami-Amourae
14th June 2011, 04:23 AM
dutchsinse has been doing an ongoing road trip all over the United States doing Geiger counter readings.

Pacific Coast (Washington State)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQL-xosSnJY
37.5 CPM

Wyoming
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a32pmMn0K
77.7 CPM

Notice that according to his readings, the Pacific Coast in Washington is actually doing better the the interior of the country (which is about 2x worse.) Anytime you go over 100 CPM you're fucked according to the "authorities". I wonder how bad California is though.

Neuro
14th June 2011, 05:51 AM
No to nuclear power, no to privitizing water, no to allowing polticians to do illegal things. Highest turnout in almost 20 years.

Italy PM Berlusconi suffers referendum defeat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1BJhY-Ezrk
Great there is some hope!

gunDriller
14th June 2011, 03:15 PM
===============
Relevance?
...

The point of relevance is this: I smell another false flag event on the come...will it be an "unannounced practice power interruption?" Don't recall invitations being issued to Fukushima event, nor WTC, nor GoM.

Oh, and before I forget....it wasn't a solar storm story crippling the power grid in Canada, which cascaded into the US. Talk about re-writing history, yes? Please correct me if I'm not remembering correctly!


very good points, about the false flag power interrruption. yet one more reason to be self-sufficient electricity-wise and fuel-wise.


it is very possible to use the solar storms to generate electricity, just as it is possible to use an earthquake or a hurricane to generate electricity.

just imagine if Japan had prepared for the alleged quake by bolting the 2 tectonic plates they sit on to a very VERY large generator, so that the energy was imparted to a Godzilla-size spring that spends the next 50 years unwinding.

as far as the solar flares, it's the same effect they have - inducing a voltage in a loop of wire - that makes them both destructive and constructive. it's a matter of capturing a huge amount of energy during the time window of the flare, then slowly releasing it.

Serpo
14th June 2011, 11:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSvvmrB7qEg&feature=youtu.be


Fort Calhoun near Omaha, Nebraska

"On June 6, 2011, the Fort Calhoun pressurized water nuclear reactor 20 miles north of Omaha, Nebraska entered emergency status due to imminent flooding from the Missouri River. A day later, there was an electrical fire requiring plant evacuation.

Then, on June 8th, NRC event reports confirmed the fire resulted in the loss of cooling for the reactor's spent fuel pool. The discussion includes specific details of the technical failures at Fort Calhoun, the risks of coolant loss at overcrowded "spent" fuel pools, and the national hazards of nuclear facilities along the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers, and other water sites during the current period of floods and climate change."

I may or may not post the other parts to this, as it was exceedingly strenuous on my comp for some reason, I guess because of all the overlays and whatnot I added. Incase I don't post the rest, here is the link to watch it on youtube:

(full 40 minutes) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHZdub3n0mI

Serpo
15th June 2011, 11:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiCXb1Nhd1o&feature=player_embedded

LastResort
16th June 2011, 11:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiCXb1Nhd1o&feature=player_embedded

I watched that one shortly after the disaster in Japan Definatly interesting. Watched it late at night though before bed and it gave me terrible dreams. I also watched another documentary on chernobly where russian scientists go in to the sarcophagus to try and find out what happened to all the nuclear fuel. Very interesting aswell.

Serpo
16th June 2011, 03:28 PM
Japan: Tepco to build sarcophagus over Fukushima reactor
The operator of the Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear plant has announced plans to construct a shroud over one of the reactor buildings, a stop-gap measure until a more permanent solution can be found, such as entombing the facility in concrete.
Japan: Tepco to build sarcophagus over Fukushima reactor
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Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant Unit 1 reactor building covering plan released Photo: EPA

By Julian Ryall in Tokyo

7:00AM BST 16 Jun 2011

A similar concrete sarcophagus was built over the remains of the reactors at the Chernobyl power plant after that facility was destroyed in an accident in April 1986.

Tokyo Electric Power Co. will start the construction of a rigid steel frame over the No. 1 reactor on June 27, Yoshikazu Nagai, a spokesman for the company, said.

A hydrogen explosion destroyed the walls and roof of the reactor building on March 12, the day after the cooling system was knocked out by the Great East Japan Earthquake and the tsunami that it triggered.

The frame, which is being put together off-site, will support polyester fibre panels that have been coated with a resin designed to prevent further radiation leaking into the atmosphere.

The entire structure will be put together by remotely controlled cranes and other vehicles in order to minimise the amount of radiation the company's emergency repair crews are exposed to, Mr Nagai said.
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The cover will stand 177 feet high and be 154 long with a roof that can be opened to give cranes access to the interior. It will also be fitted with filters that will gradually scrub the air inside the building of radioactivity, enabling workers to enter the plant.

Tepco will use the operation to test the construction methods and effectiveness of the shroud but plans to build similar covers over the No. 3 and No. 4 reactor buildings, which were also damaged by explosions after the tsunami.

Eventually, Tepco plans to erect a concrete structure around the reactors, although it admits that will take several years to achieve.

Company officials admit they are not sure how effective the temporary cover may be in limiting emissions of radiation from the reactors and spent fuel pools, but it will at least prevent more rainwater entering the buildings and becoming contaminated with radiation, they said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8578786/Japan-Tepco-to-build-sarcophagus-over-Fukushima-reactor.html

Serpo
16th June 2011, 03:33 PM
Fukushima's Apocalyptic Threat

By Harvey Wasserman, Reader Supported News

20 May 11

RSN Special Coverage: Disaster in Japan



ukushima may be in an apocalyptic downward spiral.

Forget the corporate-induced media coma that says otherwise ... or nothing at all.

Lethal radiation is spewing unabated. Emission levels could seriously escalate. There is no end in sight. The potential is many times worse than Chernobyl.

Containing this disaster may be beyond the abilities of Tokyo Electric or the Japanese government.

There is no reason to incur further unnecessary risk. With all needed resources, it's time for the world's best scientists and engineers to take charge.

Even then the outcome is unclear.

For a brief but terrifying overview, consult Dr. Chris Busby as interviewed by RT/TV.

Fukushima Units One, Two and Three are all in various stages of melting down.

Molten fuel at Unit One may have burned through its reactor pressure vessel, with water poured in to cool it merely pouring out the bottom.

A growing pond of highly radioactive liquid is softening the ground and draining into the ocean.

There is no way to predict where these molten masses of fuel will yet go.

Especially in the event of an aftershock, steam and hydrogen explosions could blow out what's left of the containments.

The extra plutonium in the MOX fuel at Unit Three is an added liability.

At least one spent fuel pool has been on fire.

The site has already suffered at least two hydrogen explosions. Some believe a fission explosion may also have occurred.

All have weakened the structures and support systems on site.

These shocks and the soft ground may be why Unit Four has partially sunk and is tipping, possibly on the brink of collapse. Even a relatively minor aftershock could mean catastrophe.

More explosions are possible. More leaks are virtually certain.

Escalated radiation levels from any one of the reactors could force all workers to evacuate, leaving the entire site to chance.

The New York Times has now reported that critical valve failures that contributed to the Fukushima disaster are likely at numerous US reactors.

Significant radioactive debris has been found thousands of yards from the plant. Radiation levels in Tokyo, nearly 200 miles away, have risen. Fallout has been detected in North America and throughout Europe.

Radiation pouring into the sea has begun to spread worldwide.

There is much more, none of it good.

Japan and Germany have had the good survival sense to abandon future reactor construction, and to shut some existing sites.

But here, the corporate media blackout is virtually complete. Out of sight, out of mind seems the strategy for an industry desperate for federal loan guarantees and continued operation of a rickety fleet of decaying old reactors.

The Obama Administration has ended radiation monitoring of seafood in the Pacific. It does not provide reliable, systematic radiological or medical data on fallout coming to the United States.

But we may all be in unprecedented danger.

A national movement is underway to end atomic give-aways and turn to a green-powered Earth.

Now we must also move ALL the world's governments beyond denial to focus on somehow bringing Fukushima under control.

After two months of all-out effort, four reactors and at least that many spent fuel pools remain at risk.

Our survival depends on stopping Fukushima from further irradiating us all.

The world community has come together to put a new sarcophagus around Chernobyl.

A parallel, more urgent effort now needs to focus on Fukushima.

Whatever technical, scientific and material resources are available to our species, that's what needs to go there.

NOW!!!http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/303-211/6005-fukushimas-apocalyptic-threat

Serpo
16th June 2011, 03:36 PM
"Fukushima is the biggest industrial catastrophe in the history of mankind," Arnold Gundersen, a former nuclear industry senior vice president, told Al Jazeera.

Japan's 9.0 earthquake on March 11 caused a massive tsunami that crippled the cooling systems at the Tokyo Electric Power Company's (TEPCO) nuclear plant in Fukushima, Japan. It also led to hydrogen explosions and reactor meltdowns that forced evacuations of those living within a 20km radius of the plant.

Gundersen, a licensed reactor operator with 39 years of nuclear power engineering experience, managing and coordinating projects at 70 nuclear power plants around the US, says the Fukushima nuclear plant likely has more exposed reactor cores than commonly believed.

"Fukushima has three nuclear reactors exposed and four fuel cores exposed," he said, "You probably have the equivalent of 20 nuclear reactor cores because of the fuel cores, and they are all in desperate need of being cooled, and there is no means to cool them effectively."

TEPCO has been spraying water on several of the reactors and fuel cores, but this has led to even greater problems, such as radiation being emitted into the air in steam and evaporated sea water - as well as generating hundreds of thousands of tons of highly radioactive sea water that has to be disposed of.

"The problem is how to keep it cool," says Gundersen. "They are pouring in water and the question is what are they going to do with the waste that comes out of that system, because it is going to contain plutonium and uranium. Where do you put the water?"

Even though the plant is now shut down, fission products such as uranium continue to generate heat, and therefore require cooling.

"The fuels are now a molten blob at the bottom of the reactor," Gundersen added. "TEPCO announced they had a melt through. A melt down is when the fuel collapses to the bottom of the reactor, and a melt through means it has melted through some layers. That blob is incredibly radioactive, and now you have water on top of it. The water picks up enormous amounts of radiation, so you add more water and you are generating hundreds of thousands of tons of highly radioactive water."

Independent scientists have been monitoring the locations of radioactive "hot spots" around Japan, and their findings are disconcerting.

"We have 20 nuclear cores exposed, the fuel pools have several cores each, that is 20 times the potential to be released than Chernobyl," said Gundersen. "The data I'm seeing shows that we are finding hot spots further away than we had from Chernobyl, and the amount of radiation in many of them was the amount that caused areas to be declared no-man's-land for Chernobyl. We are seeing square kilometres being found 60 to 70 kilometres away from the reactor. You can't clean all this up. We still have radioactive wild boar in Germany, 30 years after Chernobyl."

Radiation monitors for children

Japan's Nuclear Emergency Response Headquarters finally admitted earlier this month that reactors 1, 2, and 3 at the Fukushima plant experienced full meltdowns.

TEPCO announced that the accident probably released more radioactive material into the environment than Chernobyl, making it the worst nuclear accident on record.

Meanwhile, a nuclear waste advisor to the Japanese government reported that about 966 square kilometres near the power station - an area roughly 17 times the size of Manhattan - is now likely uninhabitable.

In the US, physician Janette Sherman MD and epidemiologist Joseph Mangano published an essay shedding light on a 35 per cent spike in infant mortality in northwest cities that occurred after the Fukushima meltdown, and may well be the result of fallout from the stricken nuclear plant.

The eight cities included in the report are San Jose, Berkeley, San Francisco, Sacramento, Santa Cruz, Portland, Seattle, and Boise, and the time frame of the report included the ten weeks immediately following the disaster.

"There is and should be concern about younger people being exposed, and the Japanese government will be giving out radiation monitors to children," Dr MV Ramana, a physicist with the Programme on Science and Global Security at Princeton University who specialises in issues of nuclear safety, told Al Jazeera.

Dr Ramana explained that he believes the primary radiation threat continues to be mostly for residents living within 50km of the plant, but added: "There are going to be areas outside of the Japanese government's 20km mandatory evacuation zone where radiation is higher. So that could mean evacuation zones in those areas as well."

Gundersen points out that far more radiation has been released than has been reported.

"They recalculated the amount of radiation released, but the news is really not talking about this," he said. "The new calculations show that within the first week of the accident, they released 2.3 times as much radiation as they thought they released in the first 80 days."

According to Gundersen, the exposed reactors and fuel cores are continuing to release microns of caesium, strontium, and plutonium isotopes. These are referred to as "hot particles".

"We are discovering hot particles everywhere in Japan, even in Tokyo," he said. "Scientists are finding these everywhere. Over the last 90 days these hot particles have continued to fall and are being deposited in high concentrations. A lot of people are picking these up in car engine air filters."

Radioactive air filters from cars in Fukushima prefecture and Tokyo are now common, and Gundersen says his sources are finding radioactive air filters in the greater Seattle area of the US as well.

The hot particles on them can eventually lead to cancer.

"These get stuck in your lungs or GI tract, and they are a constant irritant," he explained, "One cigarette doesn't get you, but over time they do. These [hot particles] can cause cancer, but you can't measure them with a Geiger counter. Clearly people in Fukushima prefecture have breathed in a large amount of these particles. Clearly the upper West Coast of the US has people being affected. That area got hit pretty heavy in April."

Blame the US?

In reaction to the Fukushima catastrophe, Germany is phasing out all of its nuclear reactors over the next decade. In a referendum vote this Monday, 95 per cent of Italians voted in favour of blocking a nuclear power revival in their country. A recent newspaper poll in Japan shows nearly three-quarters of respondents favour a phase-out of nuclear power in Japan.

Why have alarms not been sounded about radiation exposure in the US?

Nuclear operator Exelon Corporation has been among Barack Obama's biggest campaign donors, and is one of the largest employers in Illinois where Obama was senator. Exelon has donated more than $269,000 to his political campaigns, thus far. Obama also appointed Exelon CEO John Rowe to his Blue Ribbon Commission on America's Nuclear Future.

Dr Shoji Sawada is a theoretical particle physicist and Professor Emeritus at Nagoya University in Japan.
He is concerned about the types of nuclear plants in his country, and the fact that most of them are of US design.

"Most of the reactors in Japan were designed by US companies who did not care for the effects of earthquakes," Dr Sawada told Al Jazeera. "I think this problem applies to all nuclear power stations across Japan."

Using nuclear power to produce electricity in Japan is a product of the nuclear policy of the US, something Dr Sawada feels is also a large component of the problem.

"Most of the Japanese scientists at that time, the mid-1950s, considered that the technology of nuclear energy was under development or not established enough, and that it was too early to be put to practical use," he explained. "The Japan Scientists Council recommended the Japanese government not use this technology yet, but the government accepted to use enriched uranium to fuel nuclear power stations, and was thus subjected to US government policy."

As a 13-year-old, Dr Sawada experienced the US nuclear attack against Japan from his home, situated just 1400 metres from the hypocentre of the Hiroshima bomb.

"I think the Fukushima accident has caused the Japanese people to abandon the myth that nuclear power stations are safe," he said. "Now the opinions of the Japanese people have rapidly changed. Well beyond half the population believes Japan should move towards natural electricity."

A problem of infinite proportions

Dr Ramana expects the plant reactors and fuel cores to be cooled enough for a shutdown within two years.
"But it is going to take a very long time before the fuel can be removed from the reactor," he added. "Dealing with the cracking and compromised structure and dealing with radiation in the area will take several years, there's no question about that."

Dr Sawada is not as clear about how long a cold shutdown could take, and said the problem will be "the effects from caesium-137 that remains in the soil and the polluted water around the power station and underground. It will take a year, or more time, to deal with this".

Gundersen pointed out that the units are still leaking radiation.

"They are still emitting radioactive gases and an enormous amount of radioactive liquid," he said. "It will be at least a year before it stops boiling, and until it stops boiling, it's going to be cranking out radioactive steam and liquids."

Gundersen worries about more earthquake aftershocks, as well as how to cool two of the units.

"Unit four is the most dangerous, it could topple," he said. "After the earthquake in Sumatra there was an 8.6 [aftershock] about 90 days later, so we are not out of the woods yet. And you're at a point where, if that happens, there is no science for this, no one has ever imagined having hot nuclear fuel lying outside the fuel pool. They've not figured out how to cool units three and four."

Gundersen's assessment of solving this crisis is grim.

"Units one through three have nuclear waste on the floor, the melted core, that has plutonium in it, and that has to be removed from the environment for hundreds of thousands of years," he said. "Somehow, robotically, they will have to go in there and manage to put it in a container and store it for infinity, and that technology doesn't exist. Nobody knows how to pick up the molten core from the floor, there is no solution available now for picking that up from the floor."

Dr Sawada says that the creation of nuclear fission generates radioactive materials for which there is simply no knowledge informing us how to dispose of the radioactive waste safely.

"Until we know how to safely dispose of the radioactive materials generated by nuclear plants, we should postpone these activities so as not to cause further harm to future generations," he explained. "To do otherwise is simply an immoral act, and that is my belief, both as a scientist and as a survivor of the Hiroshima atomic bombing."

Gundersen believes it will take experts at least ten years to design and implement the plan.

"So ten to 15 years from now maybe we can say the reactors have been dismantled, and in the meantime you wind up contaminating the water," Gundersen said. "We are already seeing Strontium [at] 250 times the allowable limits in the water table at Fukushima. Contaminated water tables are incredibly difficult to clean. So I think we will have a contaminated aquifer in the area of the Fukushima site for a long, long time to come."

Unfortunately, the history of nuclear disasters appears to back Gundersen's assessment.

"With Three Mile Island and Chernobyl, and now with Fukushima, you can pinpoint the exact day and time they started," he said, "But they never end."http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/06/201161664828302638.html

osoab
16th June 2011, 04:29 PM
I

#Radiation in Japan: Nosebleed, Diarrhea, Lack of Energy in Children in Koriyama City, Fukushima (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/06/radiation-in-japan-nosebleed-diarrhea.html)




Wednesday, June 15, 2011


Once a malicious "baseless rumor" on the net, now it is written up in a regional newspaper with readership in Tokyo and Kanto area.

Tokyo Shinbun (paper edition only, 6/16/2011) reports that many children in Koriyama City in Fukushima Prefecture, 50 kilometers from Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant, are suffering inexplicable nosebleed, diarrhea, and lack of energy since the nuke plant accident.

(The photo of the page from this blog site (http://c3plamo.slyip.com/blog/archives/2011/06/post_2102.html), in Japanese.)

Quick translation of the article:
What's happening to children in Koriyama City in Fukushima right now? Nosebleed, diarrhea, lack of energy - "Effect of radiation unknown" says the doctor
Report by Ao Ideta, Tokyo Shinbun, June 16, 2011

On June 12, a non-profit organization called "The Bridge to Chernobyl" (チェルノブイリへのかけはし (http://www.kakehashi.or.jp/)) held a free clinic in Koriyama City in Fukushima Prefecture, 50 kilometers [west] from Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant.

Worried about the effect of radiation exposure, 50 families brought their children to see the doctor.
A 39-year-old mother of two told the doctor that her 6-year-old daughter had nosebleed everyday for 3 weeks in April. For 1 week, the daughter bled copiously from both nostrils. The mother said their doctor told her it was just a seasonal allergy from pollen. Her other child, 2-year-old son, had nosebleed from end of April to May.
The pediatrician from The Bridge to Chernobyl, Yurika Hashimoto, told the mother it was hard to determine whether the nosebleed was the result of radiation exposure, but they should have the blood test done for white blood cells. It was important to keep record, the doctor advised.
The family move out temporarily from Koriyama City to Saitama Prefecture after the March 11 earthquake, but came back to Koriyama at the end of March.
The mother said about 10% of pupils at the elementary school have left Koriyama. Each school in Koriyama decides whether to have the pupils drink local milk that the school provide, which tends to concentrate radioactive materials. In her daughter's school, it is up to the parents to decide. But the mother said she let the daughter drink milk with other children because the daughter didn't want to get excluded by other children for not drinking milk with them.
A 40-year-old father of a 4-month-old baby daughter was so worried that he never let the daughter go outside, even though she didn't exhibit any ill effect of radiation so far. He said, "I'm so worried. I don't know how to defend ourselves."
I [the reporter of the story] used the radiation monitoring device over the low bush near the place where this event was being held. It measured 2.33 microsieverts/hour. As I raised the device higher, the radiation level went down to 1 microsievert/hour. The highest air radiation measured in Koriyama City was 8.26 microsieverts/hour on March 15. Since middle of May, it has been about 1.3 microsievert/hour.
If you live one year in a place with 1.3 microsievert/hour radiation, the cumulative radiation will exceed 11 millisieverts. [And that's only the external exposure.]
A 40-year-old mother with a 6-year-old son was angry, and said "Doctors, researchers, they all say different things. I don't understand how the evacuation areas are determined. Take Iitate-mura, for example. They just let the villagers get exposed to high radiation for a month, and when the air radiation level got lower they told them to move out. We can't trust the national government, we can't trust Fukushima prefectural government." Her family just built a new house, and she was not sure how they could survive economically if they moved. If they moved, when would they be able to come back? What about cost of moving, or the psychological effect on her child? She just couldn't decide what to do.
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osoab
16th June 2011, 04:31 PM
Japan: Tepco to build sarcophagus over Fukushima reactor
The operator of the Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear plant has announced plans to construct a shroud over one of the reactor buildings, a stop-gap measure until a more permanent solution can be found, such as entombing the facility in concrete.
Japan: Tepco to build sarcophagus over Fukushima reactor
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Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant Unit 1 reactor building covering plan released Photo: EPA

By Julian Ryall in Tokyo

7:00AM BST 16 Jun 2011

A similar concrete sarcophagus was built over the remains of the reactors at the Chernobyl power plant after that facility was destroyed in an accident in April 1986.

Tokyo Electric Power Co. will start the construction of a rigid steel frame over the No. 1 reactor on June 27, Yoshikazu Nagai, a spokesman for the company, said.

A hydrogen explosion destroyed the walls and roof of the reactor building on March 12, the day after the cooling system was knocked out by the Great East Japan Earthquake and the tsunami that it triggered.

The frame, which is being put together off-site, will support polyester fibre panels that have been coated with a resin designed to prevent further radiation leaking into the atmosphere.

The entire structure will be put together by remotely controlled cranes and other vehicles in order to minimise the amount of radiation the company's emergency repair crews are exposed to, Mr Nagai said.
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So they are building a tent like structure. What about the other 3 reactors?

osoab
16th June 2011, 04:34 PM
Thursday, June 16, 2011

#Radiation in Japan: Testing of Vegetables Only 0.1%, Government Discourages "Unauthorized" Health Checks in Affected Areas (http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/06/radiation-in-japan-testing-of.html)


Japan must be the least suited country in the world to deal with an emergency situation, because it doesn't recognize it is an emergency.

Thanks to the net, though, people are speaking up even in Japan and spreading information. Here are two such examples, tweets in Japanese from Japan. They could be what their government and its apologists call "baseless rumors", but I doubt it although 'm not giving any guarantee that they aren't.

(Then again, as one of my Twitter followers reminded me, "Radiation is rumor; safety is religion; ignorance is strength.")

First, a tweet from @tatsuofujii (http://twitter.com/#%21/tatsuofujii) 藤 井 辰雄. He says he became a farmer in Inawashiro, Fukushima Prefecture three years ago. He evacuated after the Fukushima I Nuke Plant accident, and says as a responsible producer he wouldn't grow and sell vegetables if there is even a slight possibility that his vegetables may harm children and women capable of becoming pregnant.

His June 14 tweet:

日 が経つにつれて危機意識が薄れてる。野菜にこだわって生 産してきた福島の農家として警告します。未だに農産物は出荷量に対し99.9%以上未検査。1市町村1圃場 だけのサンプル検査です。自治体が出す安全宣言 などは現時点で非常にいい加減な検査手法により出されています。

I sense that people are getting less vigilant as days go by. But I warn you, as a farmer who has taken much pride in growing the best vegetables possible, that more than 99.9% of the agricultural produce shipped are not tested, even today. The test for radioactive materials is done by sampling in one farm plot per city/town/village. The "safety declaration" by municipalities are being issued, based on this flimsy testing. So that's how Shizuoka Prefecture may have tested their teas: one bag from one factory per one tea growing region. Unfortunately for the governor of Shizuoka, a Tokyo grocer did the independent testing, and he had to order the testing at all 100 factories in that one particular tea growing region.

Here's a tweet by a medical doctor, @KamiMasahiro (http://twitter.com/#%21/KamiMasahiro) 上 昌広. His Twitter profile says he is a doctor in internal medicine, and the site he lists on Twitter goes to the Tokyo University Institute of Medical Science (http://expres.umin.jp/index.html), and he is a professor in the Division of Social Communication System.

His June 13 tweet:
 
飯舘村で一緒に健康相談した医師から。何考えているんだろう。 「本日、病院幹部(私もその一人)に文科省 と厚労省の連名で通達が書面できました。原発被害を受けた地域への関係学会が認めない健康診断や調査は住民 たちの負担を増やすので、許可を得てからやりなさいと」

Message from the doctor I worked with in Iitate-mura [in Fukushima Prefecture], when we gave medical advice to the villagers. I don't know what they [the government ministries] are thinking. "Today, our hospital received a written notice signed by both the Ministry of Education and Science and the Ministry of Health and Welfare. The notice says "The medical checkups and research of the residents in the areas affected by the nuke plant accident are allowed only if the permission to do so is given by the related scientific societies and associations; otherwise it would only increase the burden on the residents.""

beefsteak
16th June 2011, 09:47 PM
FOX (Philadelphia) interviews researcher Mangano, who has annotated a 48% INCREASE in infant deaths in Philadelphia just since 3/11/2011, postulates it could be the Radioactive Iodine - 131 found in Philly's drinking water............:'(.
Deaths have been occuring in NEWBORNS up to 2 weeks old.



Story Here...Video at link below:



Is Iodine-131 Killing Babies In Philly?

A researcher says the death rate among babies is up 48 percent since Iodine-131 was found in Philadelphia’s drinking water

Joseph Mangano is is the executive director of the Radiation And Public Health Project in New York, which is made of up scientists and health professionals.

There has been a recent spike, in infant deaths in Philadelphia, and Mangano says radioactive levels, in our water could be to blame.

After the explosion at the Fukushima power plant in Japan, radiation circled the globe, all the way to Pennsylvania.

About a month, after the disaster, radiation levels spiked, in our water, at three Philadelphia facilities.

Mangano said radiation combined with higher levels of iodine the EPAQ found in Philadelphia’s water two months ago may be killing young babies here.

We're reporting his research not to alarm or cause panic, but to inform. It's enough time to suggest, not conclude yet. The real benefit is it is a red flag for more studies to be done.

Mangano says we’ve gone from an average of 5 deaths per week to 7and a half deaths per week.

And what's even more thought provoking is Mangano believes radiation traveling from Japan is particularly [affecting] pregnant women without them knowing it.

Mangano looked at infant death data from the Centers For Disease Control And Prevention.

It shows an average of five infant deaths a week in the five weeks leading up to the fallout in Japan.

Then, for the 10 weeks after Japan, there was an average of 7. 5.
During the same time period, the rate of infant deaths for the whole country jumped just 2.3 percent.

So why the huge disparity?

Mangano points to significant rainfall and iodine.

The EPA data showed the levels in drinking water in Philadelphia were the highest in the country and out of the seven highest readings, five were in Philadelphia.

Mangano also looked at numbers for the same time period dating back six years. They showed a decline in infant deaths until this year.
Also we should point out no autopsy information regarding these infant deaths and radiation was available.

VIDEO HERE:
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/is-iodine-131-killing-babies-in-philly-061611


beefsteak

oldmansmith
17th June 2011, 12:01 PM
Thanks again for keeping this thread going. I don't watch TV, but the radio and the MSM internet have had NOTHING on this disaster in quite some time. Mrs. Old is due with our first in August and I am concerned for our little girl.