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Ragnarok
13th March 2011, 11:16 AM
Many tidbits of wisdom to be found here:

Snip:
"If you hand me silver or gold, I won't care whether the symbols impressed on it are from a reliable government, an unreliable one, or a defunct one. But if you hand me paper, I'd better be firmly assured the issuer will live long enough (and be inclined) to pay off this debt to me. Even if you hand me a paper claim ticket to silver or gold stored in a vault somewhere, I'd better be firmly assured the vault keeper is of a mind to let me take possession of that metal without the slightest hesitation.

Another and FOA, by saying wise people should avoid paper and only hold physical, are indicating that they expect the LBMA and Comex Gold Contract documents will go the way of the Confederate Dollar (or maybe more appropriately, the way of the pre-1933 paper dollar: "Yes, a dollar is still a dollar, we just won't live up to it in quite the way we used to.").

At the very least, they're saying the risk of such a systemic change is so substantial that one should not be standing too near the fault line should the quake come sooner than predicted.

What the both of them are describing is an official Spot POG (and its kindred future months' POGs) which may well plummet to $200 or even, as Another allowed some time ago, perhaps $10. Realise, though, that Another is by no means predicting that Michael will be able to profitably sell Krugerrands at $10 each. Far from it.

What Another and FOA are anticipating is a situation much like the paper money situation in both the USA and the CSA in 1864: how likely is it that the paper contract you're handing me today will be redeemable for any amount of gold by this time next year?

Tell you what, I've got a spare ten bob I feel no desperate attachment to. I'll buy your one-ounce IOU just for kicks. If LBMA completely expires, I'm out only a small amount. If LBMA unaccountably fails to expire, I've struck it rich. Of course, I may still not receive a physical ounce of gold on settlement day. I may find I've become the proud owner of a 1/400th part of a London Good Delivery bar, which I'm then told may not be removed from the vault. If I'm lucky, I might be able to sell my claim ticket for some amount of whatever paper currency is still worth accepting.

Meanwhile, those of us with less of a gambling inclination will sleep more soundly holding physical. After all, a silver or gold coin firmly in your possession remains silver or gold even after its issuer expires."
Read the rest at http://fofoa.blogspot.com/2011/03/mo...ld-fodder.html

Enjoy/fyi, R.

Uncle Salty
28th March 2011, 02:10 PM
Reading FOFOA makes me want to trade my silver for gold.

However, I still think the GSR will continue to fall a bit and want to exchange at a lower ratio.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

uncletonoose
28th March 2011, 02:43 PM
Reading FOFOA makes me want to trade my silver for gold.

However, I still think the GSR will continue to fall a bit and want to exchange at a lower ratio.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?


GSR is just one of the factors that I use. The main calculator is the percentage of gain/loss. For example

London Fix closing as of:
1/4/11 Today 3/28/11 Gain/Loss
Gold $1388.50 $1417.00 2.05%
Silver $30.67 $37.08 20.9%

I swapped all the gold I had for silver, the 1st week in January. I think I made the right decision.

Uncle Salty
29th March 2011, 07:22 PM
Reading FOFOA makes me want to trade my silver for gold.

However, I still think the GSR will continue to fall a bit and want to exchange at a lower ratio.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?


GSR is just one of the factors that I use. The main calculator is the percentage of gain/loss. For example

London Fix closing as of:
1/4/11 Today 3/28/11 Gain/Loss
Gold $1388.50 $1417.00 2.05%
Silver $30.67 $37.08 20.9%

I swapped all the gold I had for silver, the 1st week in January. I think I made the right decision.


Do you ever plan to get back into gold in anticipation of the gold reset that FOFOA talks about?

uncletonoose
30th March 2011, 07:50 AM
Reading FOFOA makes me want to trade my silver for gold.

However, I still think the GSR will continue to fall a bit and want to exchange at a lower ratio.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?


GSR is just one of the factors that I use. The main calculator is the percentage of gain/loss. For example

London Fix closing as of:
1/4/11 Today 3/28/11 Gain/Loss
Gold $1388.50 $1417.00 2.05%
Silver $30.67 $37.08 20.9%

I swapped all the gold I had for silver, the 1st week in January. I think I made the right decision.


Do you ever plan to get back into gold in anticipation of the gold reset that FOFOA talks about?


As of right now, I have no plans of trading silver for gold, but could change at any time, like gold taking off like a rocket and surpassing silver gains. I think we have come to a point in time that we must factor in the industrial uses of silver vs gold, and how much is left on this earth. There will be a point in time where silver will be scarcer than gold, just by supply and demand, and turning the G-S ratio to a S-G ratio.

I might be way off, but that's how this old man see's it.