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madfranks
18th March 2011, 08:32 AM
http://radiationnetwork.com/


Welcome to RadiationNetwork.com, home of the National Radiation Map, depicting environmental radiation levels across the USA, updated in real time every minute. This is the first web site where the average citizen (or anyone in the world) can see what radiation levels are anywhere in the USA at any time

Could be useful to see how much impact the Japanese radiation has once it crosses the shores of the US.

[Add EPA Link (JQP): http://www.epa.gov/radiation/rert/radnet-data-map.html ]

JohnQPublic
18th March 2011, 08:47 AM
I declare it now useful:

Radiation Reaches California (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/radiation-reaches-california)

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/18/2011 10:23 -0400

After travelling in the first class confines of the Gulf/Jetstream for the past 3 days, the Fukushima radiation has finally reached California. This happens just as The Hill reports Obama has oredered a full review of all US nuclear power plants. Look for the nuclear pair trade to become all the rage in the next week.

From Reuters:

Very low concentrations of radioactive particles believed to have come from Japan's Fukushima nuclear power plant have been detected on the U.S. west coast, diplomatic sources said on Friday.

The level of radiation was far too low to cause any harm to humans, they said.

One diplomat, citing information from a network of international monitoring stations, described the material as "ever so slight" and consisting of only a few particles.

"It is very low level," another source in Vienna said.

Until it isn't. Any since when are diplomats nuclear power experts?

cthulu
18th March 2011, 09:44 AM
They don't say how low. I've been seeing spikes as high as 60.

Low Pan
18th March 2011, 09:51 AM
yeah saw 60 in Denver, then it went dwn. 60 appears to be at the height of normal radiation levels.

edit: Wow, look at that map. Imagine what would happen if a Tsunami hit the US east coast. It would be the current Japanese crisis x100! :o

editx2: just saw Denver spike to 68

undgrd
18th March 2011, 09:54 AM
Denver will always be higher because of elevation.

lapis
18th March 2011, 10:17 AM
Denver will always be higher because of elevation.


It's now at 74. Does that mean it's getting more of the Japanese radiation than the west coast?

Cobalt
18th March 2011, 10:32 AM
Washington State Dept of Health radiation numbers here

http://www.doh.wa.gov/Topics/japan/monitor.htm

Low Pan
18th March 2011, 10:35 AM
Denver will always be higher because of elevation.


It's now at 74. Does that mean it's getting more of the Japanese radiation than the west coast?


I would think that the Mountain winds would help to push this back west. Thoughts?

madfranks
18th March 2011, 12:46 PM
Denver will always be higher because of elevation.


Correct. Since the Earth's atmosphere keeps out cosmic radiation, a city a mile higher than sea level has less atmosphere to filter out the extra-planetary radiation. It's normal, and not from Japan.

AndreaGail
18th March 2011, 01:04 PM
yeah i saw denver as high as 82 two days ago

looks fairly normal at 66 right now

Cobalt
18th March 2011, 01:26 PM
Colorado also has Uranium in the soil so add that in with altitude and they have a higher "normal" number

DMac
18th March 2011, 01:38 PM
Real Time Ionizing radiation detector. Located in New York, Tarrytown. 15 Miles south from Indian Point nuclear Power Plant.


http://www.aspnic.com/rad/

Cobalt
18th March 2011, 01:49 PM
Real Time Ionizing radiation detector. Located in New York, Tarrytown. 15 Miles south from Indian Point nuclear Power Plant.


http://www.aspnic.com/rad/


And here is one from Japan, put those two side by side
http://mu.jklmnop.net/japan/

JohnQPublic
19th March 2011, 08:02 AM
It is raining in So. Cal. now.

What Have They Done to the Rain? (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carl-pope/what-have-they-done-to-th_b_837875.html)


It is raining outside right now. And coming down with the rain are measurable -- if trace -- quantities of radioisotopes from Japan's crippled nuclear reactors. What we are being exposed to in California today is not a reflection of the current situation in Japan, though. These winds left Japan right after the first radiation releases, and the situation has gotten significantly worse in the past four days. We are not yet at Chernobyl levels, but this is obviously much worse than Three Mile Island...

...health officials in Los Angeles said "Our position has not changed: We still do not expect to see an increase in harmful levels of radiation in California."



"...What is lacking in all of this are any simple explanation of what the authorities are defining as "harmful," what the possible range of exposures are, and what potential level of releases from Fukushima Daiichi are being taken into account. How bad a scenario are they considering? The information that is being released is unhelpful and won't enable anyone to judge their actual risk. One expert said, intending to be reassuring, that the level being experienced in California was only "one microsievert", about 1/100th of the exposure from a chest X-ray. But one microsievert over what period of time? A week? A day? An hour? A minute? A microsievert a minute is equivalent to a chest X-Ray every two hours -- a very big deal indeed...

JohnQPublic
19th March 2011, 08:06 AM
Daiichi nuclear plant reaches California; experts: no health risk (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/03/18/2011-03-18_radiation_from_japans_fukushima_daiichi_nuclear _plant_reaches_california_experts.html)

BY Nancy Dillon
DAILY NEWS WEST COAST BUREAU CHIEF

Originally Published:Friday, March 18th 2011, 3:41 PM
Updated: Friday, March 18th 2011, 3:49 PM

LOS ANGELES - Trace amounts of radiation from Japan's nuclear crisis have reportedly reached California - but they're nowhere near hazardous levels.

"(They're) about a billion times beneath levels that would be health threatening," a diplomat with access to radiation tracking by the U.N.'s Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty Organization told the Associated Press.

The diplomat in Vienna said the initial reading came from an unnamed measuring station operated by the CTBTO, apparently in Sacramento.

Experts agree that any fallout wafting 5,500 miles across the Pacific to California will be too diluted to pose a health risk.

"It would be less than one microsievert," Dr. Keisuke Iwamoto, a radiation biologist at UCLA, told the Daily News. "To give you some perspective, a chest x-ray might be 100 microsieverts."

Still, some jittery residents are hoarding anti-radiation pills and fretting over the invisible threat as weather systems beat a path between the crippled Fukushima Daiichi plant and California.

"We've sold maybe 40 or 50 personal radiation detectors to people in California," Al Evan, the CEO of Security Pro USA in Los Angeles, told the Daily News. "Even though the radiation threat is minute, people are very concerned. We sold about a thousand packets of potassium iodide pills in two days. We're sold out."

California officials, meanwhile, said they're screening locally produced milk for any radiation contamination transmitted by grass-eating cows.

It's a precautionary measure, they said, since harmful levels are not expected to affect the milk supply.

An estimated 4,000 kids developed thyroid cancer after consuming milk contaminated with radioactive iodine after the 1986 Chernobyl disaster, according to the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission.

beefsteak
24th March 2011, 10:03 PM
Jesse's Cafe' American posts this t'day, 3/24/2011


24 March 2011
Fukushima Radioactive Fallout Update - Caesium and Iodine About Half Chernobyl Levels

I do not seem to be hearing this same level of detailed information on the financial news networks anymore. I do not watch network televised news at all, so it could be covered there.

Apparently I am not the only one who feels this way.

Lack of Data from Japan Distresses Nuclear Experts - LA Times

The stock touts on bubblevision are busily promoting blue skies and rainbows ahead of the weekend. Nothing to see here, move along. Just send in your money, and we can have endless prosperity. Or at least some can.

"New Scientist"
Fukushima radioactive fallout nears Chernobyl levels
By Debora MacKenzie
24 March 2011

Japan's damaged nuclear plant in Fukushima has been emitting radioactive iodine and caesium at levels approaching those seen in the aftermath of the Chernobyl accident in 1986. Austrian researchers have used a worldwide network of radiation detectors – designed to spot clandestine nuclear bomb tests – to show that iodine-131 is being released at daily levels 73 per cent of those seen after the 1986 disaster. The daily amount of caesium-137 released from Fukushima Daiichi is around 60 per cent of the amount released from Chernobyl.

The difference between this accident and Chernobyl, they say, is that at Chernobyl a huge fire released large amounts of many radioactive materials, including fuel particles, in smoke. At Fukushima Daiichi, only the volatile elements, such as iodine and caesium, are bubbling off the damaged fuel. But these substances could nevertheless pose a significant health risk outside the plant.

The organisation set up to verify the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty (CTBT) has a global network of air samplers that monitor and trace the origin of around a dozen radionuclides, the radioactive elements released by atomic bomb blasts – and nuclear accidents. These measurements can be combined with wind observations to track where the radionuclides come from, and how much was released.

The level of radionuclides leaking from Fukushima Daiichi has been unclear, but the CTBT air samplers can shed some light, says Gerhard Wotawa of Austria's Central Institute for Meteorology and Geodynamics in Vienna.

For the first two days after the accident, the wind blew east from Fukushima towards monitoring stations on the US west coast; on the third day it blew south-west over the Japanese monitoring station at Takasaki, then swung east again. Each day, readings for iodine-131 at Sacramento in California, or at Takasaki, both suggested the same amount of iodine was coming out of Fukushima, says Wotawa: 1.2 to 1.3 × 1017 becquerels per day.

The agreement between the two "makes us confident that this is accurate", he says. So do similar readings at CTBT stations in Alaska, Hawaii and Montreal, Canada – readings at the latter, at least, show that the emissions have continued.

In the 10 days it burned, Chernobyl put out 1.76 × 1018 becquerels of iodine-131, which amounts to only 50 per cent more per day than has been calculated for Fukushima Daiichi. It is not yet clear how long emissions from the Japanese plant will continue.

Similarly, says Wotawa, caesium-137 emissions are on the same order of magnitude as at Chernobyl. The Sacramento readings suggest it has emitted 5 × 1015 becquerels of caesium-137 per day; Chernobyl put out 8.5 × 1016 in total – around 70 per cent more per day.

"This is not surprising," says Wotawa. "When the fuel is damaged there is no reason for the volatile elements not to escape," and the measured caesium and iodine are in the right ratios for the fuel used by the Fukushima Daiichi reactors. Also, the Fukushima plant has around 1760 tonnes of fresh and used nuclear fuel on site, and an unknown amount has been damaged. The Chernobyl reactor had only 180 tonnes.

The amounts being released, he says, are "entirely consistent" with the relatively low amounts of caesium and iodine being measured in soil, plants and water in Japan, because so much has blown out to sea. The amounts crossing the Pacific to places like Sacramento are vanishingly small – they were detected there because the CTBT network is designed to sniff out the tiniest traces.


Dangerous isotopes
The Chernobyl accident emitted much more radioactivity and a wider diversity of radioactive elements than Fukushima Daiichi has so far, but it was iodine and caesium that caused most of the health risk – especially outside the immediate area of the Chernobyl plant, says Malcolm Crick, secretary of a United Nations body that has just reviewed the health effects of Chernobyl. Unlike other elements, he says, they were carried far and wide by the wind.

Moreover the human body absorbs iodine and caesium readily. "Essentially all the iodine or caesium inhaled or swallowed crosses into the blood," says Keith Baverstock, former head of radiation protection for the World Health Organization's European office, who has studied Chernobyl's health effects.

Iodine is rapidly absorbed by the thyroid, and leaves only as it decays radioactively, with a half-life of eight days. Caesium is absorbed by muscles, where its half-life of 30 years means that it remains until it is excreted by the body. It takes between 10 and 100 days to excrete half of what has been consumed.

While in the body the isotopes' radioactive emissions can do significant damage, mainly to DNA. Children who ingest iodine-131 can develop thyroid cancer 10 or more years later; adults seem relatively resistant. A study published in the US last week found that iodine-131 from Chernobyl is still causing new cases of thyroid cancer to appear at an undiminished rate in the most heavily affected regions of Ukraine, Belarus and Russia.

Caesium-137 lingers in the environment because of its long half-life. Researchers are divided over how much damage environmental exposure to low doses has done since Chernobyl. Some researchers think it could still cause thousands of new cases of cancer across Europe.


Footnote:
first printed material I've seen here or elsewhere that talks about the body excreting cesium.

Rense's interview-ee of Starr-Hull, PhD spoke of how to rid the body of radiation using French Green Clay.

Makes one wonder why we're not supposed to know these things and just carry the poisons around with us until, what...we croak? FWIW, there is an excellent article posted on another forum thread wrt. "Low & Slo" level radiation and its aggressive cellular destructive assault vs large dosages of radiations' cellular assault. A real eye-opener.

I think MIC can also easily be considered the abbreviation for MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX a manipulative agenda to keep ObamaCare in place. :puke

JohnQPublic
19th April 2011, 05:32 AM
This is not good:

http://youtu.be/BnRMS71OpCY

beefsteak
19th April 2011, 06:59 AM
Agreed! Thanks John Q.

beefsteak
24th January 2012, 10:43 AM
http://www.radiationnetwork.com/ is STILL the link that is working 1/24/2012.

MNEagle is able to make this forum "see" it. I'm not that skilled a poster.


beefsteak

Golden
22nd August 2012, 06:00 PM
Denver will always be higher because of elevation.


It's now at 74. Does that mean it's getting more of the Japanese radiation than the west coast?


Radiation in Denver versus Tokyo...


According to this, the total annual background exposure in Denver is 11.8 MILLIsieverts per year, which is 11,800 microsieverts per year, which is 32 microsieverts per day, which is 1.3 microsieverts per hour.
http://isis-online.org/risk/tab7

Current rate in Tokyo is 0.049 microsieverts per hour. The Denver rate is 27 times the current Tokyo rate, primarily due to radon gas in Denver, but that is not quite right and is an overestimate because it depends what is included and excluded, outdoors versus indoors, etc.


The International Commission on Radiological Protection recommends evacuation of a locality whenever the excess radiation dose exceeds .1 rem per year. But that's one-third of what I call the "Denver dose." Applied strictly, the ICRP standard would seem to require the immediate evacuation of Denver.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...444059332.html

Suffering from Rocky Flats...


Denver suffers from the long term effects of the incident at Rocky Flats where they used to manufacture the triggers for Hydrogen bombs, (small saucer shaped ingots of Plutonium). A similar event to that here in the UK some years earlier at Calder Hall, where the dust filters were contaminated with radioactive dust and caught fire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Flats_Plant
http://www.lm.doe.gov/rocky_flats/Sites.aspx