Jews own the world, wtf are you doing about it?

[Buddha]

Title speaks for itself.

[Buddha]

Title speaks for itself.

Sorry, to be PC. Zionists

[Antonio]

Are you addressing Jews or goym, my friend?

[Buddha]

Are you addressing Jews or goym, my friend?

Ahhh, "you goyim, what are you doing about your oppressors" so to speak

[Cebu_4_2]

Are you addressing Jews or goym, my friend?

Ahhh, "you goyim, what are you doing about your oppressors" so to speak


I still have 3 frns in my electronic bank, rest was converted to silver and it rests beneath the murky soil. I stopped voting for, but I vote all incumbents out, local and otherwise determined by study of the ballot as I cannot attend the public Diebold gatherings.

[Buddha]

Are you addressing Jews or goym, my friend?

Ahhh, "you goyim, what are you doing about your oppressors" so to speak


I still have 3 frns in my electronic bank, rest was converted to silver and it rests beneath the murky soil. I stopped voting for, but I vote all incumbents out, local and otherwise determined by study of the ballot as I cannot attend the public Diebold gatherings.


That is good for you

[Libertytree]

What are you doing? Anything specific?

I think people do what they can in their limited capabilities. Just don't think you're gonna get any details outta this question.

[Buddha]

What are you doing? Anything specific?

I think people do what they can in their limited capabilities. Just don't think you're gonna get any details outta this question.


They don't your explanation is the easy way out

[Antonio]

GoD is training Enzo like mad...

[Libertytree]

What are you doing? Anything specific?

I think people do what they can in their limited capabilities. Just don't think you're gonna get any details outta this question.


They don't your explanation is the easy way out


If I understood your reply I'd try and reply.

[Buddha]

Come on

[Antonio]

Don`t worry, Enzo has been biting hard on padded sleeves lately, soon he is gonna rip the ZOG`s throat out...

[nunaem]

I am going to find a woman with good genes, create a bunch of mini-me's, and train them in the art of war. And then they will do the same until I have an army of me's.

[Panoptimist]

I'm going to start here: http://www.archive.org/stream/AStudyInAnti-gentilism

[Antonio]

I am going to find a woman with good genes, create a bunch of mini-me's, and train them in the art of war. And then they will do the same until I have an army of me's.


If we assume you and the woman are genuine goym, this is the most truly antisemitic thing you can do.

[steyr_m]

I'm going to start here: http://www.archive.org/stream/AStudyInAnti-gentilism


I looked through it quickly. It was very reminiscent of Jane Birdwood's The Longest Hatred.

[steyr_m]

Title speaks for itself.


I think the answer for people in the US is to have people in their own State to start printing their own money.

[ShortJohnSilver]

The first thing you can do, is completely boycott any Jewish-authored books! If a book authored by a Khazar advances a point of view, be wary.

Very instructive to go through the history section and see the featured books - it doesn't matter whether they are covering a Demoncrat or a Repugnican--almost all the authors that receive prominent placement are Jewish.

Go ahead, look at the finance section - lots of Jews covering financial news, and in the meantime minimizing the reality.

On TV, the strength of the Japanese Yen in recent days was discussed in detail - without ONCE mentioning the yen carry trade and its likely unwinding. Looked through a bio of Jackson - very little was written about his struggles with the banks and they tried to make it sound like it was a policy disagreement instead of the bankers trying to strangle the country.

You won't get the truth from these members of the "synagogue of Satan" ... make it a point to boycott them as much as possible both online, on blogs, various sites, and in magazines and bookstores!

[Cebu_4_2]

I dont buy or read any books

[Silver Shield]

I am fighting against the elite by giving away 6 years of work with my Sons of Liberty Academy.

I am working with a group of students to translate the Academy into Spanish.

I am writing like mad on my blog Dont-Tread-On.Me about leaderless resistance and getting people to buy the Achilles Heel of the Elite, silver.

I have done 5 interviews in the past week spreading the news.
My articles have been on 50 sites including Zerohedge, BusinessInsider, PrisonPlanet, SurvivalBlog, Dollarcollapse...

I quit my job to do this full time.

I don't bitch about how things are as much as try to teach people what we can do about it.

I am building and Army of Awareness that I hope to have 10,000 through the Academy by the end of the year.

I am building a social community inside the Academy for people to meet up and share ideas.

What are you doing besides posting inflammatory posts?

At risk of another.... Argument with book... It is not the Jews... It is more accurately called Zionists if you are just focusing on the Rothschild faction. The Rockefeller side is just as powerful and they are not Zionists. I believe that the Elite is the best descriptor of our enemy. Plus no one can call you childish names like Anti Semite to discredit your argument, thoughts, and work.

If anyone is interested in writing for the blog go through the Academy so as to make sure we are on the same wave length and I will post it. I am at 125,000 views since this March 1st, so there is a lot of eye balls for good stuff.

If anyone have positive actions that they would like to take in this fight PM me and I will do my best to make it happen.

Peace,
SS
It is not the Jews

[Twisted Titan]

Acquire Honest Money every chance you get.

Acquire the Means and the mindset to protect yourself and Family.

Acquire The things you use on a daily basis.

Collect your Thoughts in written or audio format.

Prepare to be challenged because you eventually have the face the enemy.

[mick silver]

i am going to plant some food to sell ... plus what a few other said

[gunDriller]

Title speaks for itself.

Sorry, to be PC. Zionists


that's a very interesting point.

one of my best friends in college was Jewish - a cellist. of course, i knew nothing about Israel, and we never talked about it. generally, he would have been horrified by what Israel is doing to the Palestinians - but it's possible that he was indoctrinated, like the rest of us.

in 2008/ 2009, i had a computer programming instructor for learning Flash and Actionscript (which is similar to C, C++, etc.) he was also Jewish ... as was his wife. he was horrified by Sarah Palin and made enough political comments during his classes that i could get a sense, he was not an Israel supporter.

this talks around the question - how do we distinguish between criminals that are Jewish, and non-criminal Jews ? i call the criminal ones "Talmud-worshippers" because they seem to embrace the privileges that come with "club membership".

but that doesn't entirely answer the question. we can divide Jewish demographics further -
* Jewish people that support Israel
* Jewish people that don't support Israel, but remain silent about Jewish nepotism and criminality in the Jewish community.
* Jewish people that don't support Israel, and actually speak out about Jewish nepotism and criminality in the Jewish community.
* Jewish people that reject the whole ball of wax and assimilate into the Gentile community, e.g. my sister-in-law, who was raised in a Jewish family but is raising her children as Gentiles. I asked her during the holidays what to give "the kids" for Chanukay and she said they don't celebrate it.

of course, we could identify further divisions - my sister-in-law is a "good wife" - the brother she is married to completely embraces corporate America, including the codification of the Talmud that is embedded in American corporate business laws ("privatize the profits, socialize the risks). he owns Monsanto stock, Barrick stock, etc. he is a corporate CEO - his bosses are Jewish, and he is not a boat-rocker.

so my sister-in-law, although she seems to reject her Jewish heritage, has never said a peep during conversations about the Iraq War, etc. i have a feeling that brother is more of a Talmud-worshipper than she is, although our family was a-religious.

anyway, there's no easy answer. i just use the term "Talmud worshipper" to refer to Israel supporters.

[cthulu]

So what? Apparently, it's all voluntary. If you don't like how private businesses conduct their private business, get out.


Well, that's what most people on here say....

[Twisted Titan]

How do we distinguish between criminals that are Jewish, and non-criminal Jews ? i call the criminal ones "Talmud-worshippers" because they seem to embrace the privileges that come with "club membership".

but that doesn't entirely answer the question. we can divide Jewish demographics further -
* Jewish people that support Israel
* Jewish people that don't support Israel, but remain silent about Jewish nepotism and criminality in the Jewish community.
* Jewish people that don't support Israel, and actually speak out about Jewish nepotism and criminality in the Jewish community.
* Jewish people that reject the whole ball of wax and assimilate into the Gentile community


While that is highly commendable let us be candid.

Do you think the enemy is going to to such lenghts to label who their adversary is or just make a broad brush statments about Anti Semetisim?


My enemy will get what they give..


T

[po boy]

Learn how to count? ???

Grow some food, employ myself as much as possible,use hard money where applicable,treat FRN like the plague,dump my SSN, DL and other identifiers.

In short don't feed what you think gives them their power whatever you perceive that to be. ;)

[bellevuebully]

I try to help others see past the physical manifestations of what ultimately is a spiritual problem.

[JDRock]

Title speaks for itself.


I think the answer for people in the US is to have people in their own State to start printing their own money.
HELL, i would be happy if we had our own country!

[po boy]

Title speaks for itself.


I think the answer for people in the US is to have people in their own State to start printing their own money.
HELL, i would be happy if we had our own country!


We do it was know as a Republic it even has its own coins called SAE and GAE. Quit feeding the democracy via FRN.

[Ponce]

Besides my avatar in my front yard? nothing right now........in the summer I used to go to the big town and stand in the most famous corner for five ours at a time, about 300,000 cars going by.........I no longer mixed with people so that I no longer talk to anyone about it.

[po boy]

I am fighting against the elite by giving away 6 years of work with my Sons of Liberty Academy.


I don't bitch about how things are as much as try to teach people what we can do about it.


What are you doing besides posting inflammatory posts?


Peace,
SS
It is not the Jews



That's a ballsy statement on this site.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fHmWcRZ72A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fHmWcRZ72A)

[ximmy]

I am fighting against the elite by giving away 6 years of work with my Sons of Liberty Academy.


I don't bitch about how things are as much as try to teach people what we can do about it.


What are you doing besides posting inflammatory posts?


Peace,
SS
It is not the Jews



That's a ballsy statement on this site.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fHmWcRZ72A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fHmWcRZ72A)


Helen thinks it's the Jooz...
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=14341&title=helen-thomas-jews-control-the-white-house

[Antonio]

Ok, who gives orders to the Jews?

[steyr_m]

Title speaks for itself.


I think the answer for people in the US is to have people in their own State to start printing their own money.
HELL, i would be happy if we had our own country!


According to the Founding Fathers, your State is your Country. Before the erroneously named, the US Civil War, it was a confederation of countries; not the monolithic one we see today. If your State prints its own money, it is a move away from the Federal govt. and takes the Fed out of the mix.

[Tumbleweed]

I talk about the Jews and tell people what a bunch of SOB's they are and what they've been up to. I tell them what's in the Talmud and that the Jews did 911. It scares the shit out of people when I start talking like that. They think I'm going to get in trouble for being anti-semitic and the guvament is going to come after me.

[hoarder]

Ok, who gives orders to the Jews?
When a cohesive tribe is working together for the collective future benefit of the tribe and their offspring, orders are probably seldom needed since volontary action is more effective.

But if there are commands, they come from the Rothschilds.

[Antonio]

Ok, who gives orders to the Jews?
When a cohesive tribe is working together for the collective future benefit of the tribe and their offspring, orders are probably seldom needed since volontary action is more effective.

But if there are commands, they come from the Rothschilds.

So, who gives orders to Rothschilds? Is arresting Rothschilds a solution to all the problems that humanity faces? I bet we could come up with the address...

[hoarder]

So, who gives orders to Rothschilds? Is arresting Rothschilds a solution to all the problems that humanity faces? I bet we could come up with the address...
Put your finger in a cup of coffee. Now take it out. Is there a hole in the coffee where you removed your finger? :D

[Antonio]

Do you think those who own the planet are human?

[hoarder]

Do you think those who own the planet are human?
Yes. I think that is probable.

[Antonio]

Do you think those who own the planet are human?
Yes. I think that is probable.

So in other words you are not sure? I`m not sure either.

[nunaem]

Do you think those who own the planet are human?
Yes. I think that is probable.

So in other words you are not sure? I`m not sure either.


Are neanderthals (http://www.erichufschmid.net/Neanderthals/Blame-the-Neanderthals.html) human?

[Antonio]

Do you think those who own the planet are human?
Yes. I think that is probable.

So in other words you are not sure? I`m not sure either.


Are neanderthals (http://www.erichufschmid.net/Neanderthals/Blame-the-Neanderthals.html) human?

Haha, Huffy is good, isn`t he? My forehead is absolutely vertically straight but I`m a Jew. I kinda buy the reptilian/alien/Jew theory. The serpent symbolism is everywhere and goes back to the beginning of time.
I`m not very materialistic and the simple "bankers" explanation doesn`t cut it for me. I`ve been in the same room with "people" who weren`t bankers who exuded the unmistakable reptilian/non-human aura, it is the eeriest thing to experience. These creatures are aware when someone is onto them like myself which is very rare, they pay very close attention to such people and exhibit a kind of sick pride in being who the are...

[hoarder]

So in other words you are not sure? I`m not sure either.
If our minds only contained what is certain and what is possible, we would be intellectual midgets.
I spend much of my time assessing what is PROBABLE. Almost anything is possible and hardly anything is certain.

It is possible that shape shifting reptillians, Satan or something else is telling the Khazars what to do, that I will concede. But I don't spend much time thinking about what is possible unless I have both logical reasoning and verifiable phenomena to indicate that it's probable.

[Antonio]

There is little need to tell Khazars what to do, they know what to do themselves. Have you ever been in close proximity to a person who made your hair stand up on the back of your neck? I`m not talking visually freaky/deformed people, I`m talking pretty much regular people who have non-human energy.

It`s hard for me to buy the shape-shifting theory but I believe there was some genetic splicing done between humans and aliens, hybrids are everywhere.

[steyr_m]

Do you think those who own the planet are human?
Yes. I think that is probable.


Yes, I second that one. They are probably human....

[Antonio]

Do you think those who own the planet are human?
Yes. I think that is probable.


Yes, I second that one. They are probably human....

If Larry Silverstein is human then I want to be an animal...

[Neuro]

There is little need to tell Khazars what to do, they know what to do themselves. Have you ever been in close proximity to a person who made your hair stand up on the back of your neck? I`m not talking visually freaky/deformed people, I`m talking pretty much regular people who have non-human energy.

It`s hard for me to buy the shape-shifting theory but I believe there was some genetic splicing done between humans and aliens, hybrids are everywhere.
It is a possibility that aliens may have arrived here to do some genetic engineering, to make us a bit in their image, another possibility is the Neanderthal gene survived primarily in the middle east, many people do have Neanderthal features here. Either theory is not mutually excluding either. Alien genetic engineering I give a 25% likelihood of being correct, Neanderthal genes passed on I think is 95% likely. If anything I think Cro Magnon is more likely the result of alien genetic engineering. We look VERY different compared to earlier human versions, which have more features similar to Homo Sapiens Neanderthalis...

[hoarder]

If Larry Silverstein is human then I want to be an animal...
Look at the history of mankind. It's always been tribe against tribe, nation against nation, race against race, religion against religion and in the past there was nothing "immoral" about struggling for the supremacy of one's own.

The only difference with Khazars is their clever intellect, their culture/religion that espouses using deception on goyim and their sense of cohesion. These characteristics were cultivated for centuries. I don't see any logical reason why it should be attributed to non human genetics.

It's just human nature as usual.

[nunaem]

There is little need to tell Khazars what to do, they know what to do themselves. Have you ever been in close proximity to a person who made your hair stand up on the back of your neck? I`m not talking visually freaky/deformed people, I`m talking pretty much regular people who have non-human energy.

It`s hard for me to buy the shape-shifting theory but I believe there was some genetic splicing done between humans and aliens, hybrids are everywhere.
It is a possibility that aliens may have arrived here to do some genetic engineering, to make us a bit in their image, another possibility is the Neanderthal gene survived primarily in the middle east, many people do have Neanderthal features here. Either theory is not mutually excluding either. Alien genetic engineering I give a 25% likelihood of being correct, Neanderthal genes passed on I think is 95% likely. If anything I think Cro Magnon is more likely the result of alien genetic engineering. We look VERY different compared to earlier human versions, which have more features similar to Homo Sapiens Neanderthalis...



http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/05/100506-science-neanderthals-humans-mated-interbred-dna-gene/

According to a new DNA study, most humans have a little Neanderthal in them—at least 1 to 4 percent of a person's genetic makeup.
...
What's more, the Neanderthal-modern human mating apparently took place in the Middle East, shortly after modern humans had left Africa, not in Europe—as has long been suspected.

It's not far fetched to think that certain peoples might have more than 4% neanderthal DNA.

[steyr_m]

If Larry Silverstein is human then I want to be an animal...
Look at the history of mankind. It's always been tribe against tribe, nation against nation, race against race, religion against religion and in the past there was nothing "immoral" about struggling for the supremacy of one's own.

The only difference with Khazars is their clever intellect, their culture/religion that espouses using deception on goyim and their sense of cohesion. These characteristics were cultivated for centuries. I don't see any logical reason why it should be attributed to non human genetics.

It's just human nature as usual.


I'm reading Separation and Its Discontents right now. The premise (so far) is that whites/gentiles are generally individualistic and jews are more collective. When there's a competition for resources the group/tribal strategy will always win. This strategy fosters resentment (anti-Semitism) among gentiles. This anti-Semitism makes the group cohesiveness stronger and there's a vicious cycle of the Semites needing anti-Semitism in order to remain in power and/or maintain their cohesion.

[vacuum]

For those interested in genetic manipulation, aliens, etc, here is an interesting skull that was found and tested, appears to be non-human:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moEYqLdupIA

[Silver Shield]

wow this thread got off track... Lizard people? The only thing lizard like about the elite is their lack of empathy or remorse.

[Neuro]

wow this thread got off track... Lizard people? The only thing lizard like about the elite is their lack of empathy or remorse.
Not really about Lizard people, I don't think their are any people that have more reptilian genome than others. If aliens came to earth to genetically engineer a human species more like themselves I think it is likely they worked primarily with human genome. The human development the last say 10-30.000 years have been nothing but astounding, prior to that they didn't use tools much more complicated than clubs or rudimentary spears....

[iOWNme]

If Jews 'own' the world, who sold it to them?

[hoarder]

If Jews 'own' the world, who sold it to them?


They conquered it.

[General of Darkness]

Don`t worry, Enzo has been biting hard on padded sleeves lately, soon he is gonna rip the ZOG`s throat out...


What's your fixation with me?

[StreetsOfGold]

Ok, who gives orders to the Jews?
When a cohesive tribe is working together for the collective future benefit of the tribe and their offspring, orders are probably seldom needed since volontary action is more effective.

But if there are commands, they come from the Rothschilds.

So, who gives orders to Rothschilds? Is arresting Rothschilds a solution to all the problems that humanity faces? I bet we could come up with the address...


Folks like the Rothschild get their orders directly from Satan (not joking) who has MORE "worldly wisdom" than anyone and you cannot out smart him.
Only can can defeat satan so there's no use trying, consider this verse about Satan (devil)

Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

[sunnyandseventy]

Who's "can can"? How will they beat satan?

[DMac]

Are neanderthals (http://www.erichufschmid.net/Neanderthals/Blame-the-Neanderthals.html) human?


That is an interesting site, nunaem. Never saw it before. Through one of the links, I found this:


http://www.erichufschmid.net/VoR_phoneCall.html






Don`t worry, Enzo has been biting hard on padded sleeves lately, soon he is gonna rip the ZOG`s throat out...


What's your fixation with me?




Seems the page linked to above had a small fixation on you as well.

This is you he is talking about, correct?

The first thing I saw when searching for info on Hufschmid is this:

http://erichufschmidandthejews.wordpress.com/


As I mentioned previously, Hufschmid has appeared on CNN. You can see from this screen capture that the nice folks at CNN were kind enough to advertise the site that Hufschmid and his co-conspirator, Daryl Bradford Smith, worked on at the time. This site is www.iamthewitness.com. At the same time CNN also advertised www.takeourworldback.com. This site also claimed that Hufschmid’s sister is married to Rupert Murdoch’s son.


:dunno

[steyr_m]

If Jews 'own' the world, who sold it to them?


They conquered it.


I believe we screwed ourselves.

[General of Darkness]

It is not the Jews



SS, while I respect you for what you're doing, I'd say your full of crap.

Who did 9/11?
Who brought the U.S. into WWII?
Who controls the IMF?
Who controls the Federal Reserve?
Who promotes Multiculturalism and Diversity?
Who runs the SPLC?
Who runs the ACLU?

Do I need to keep going or are you going to keep being an apologist for the jews while saying it's these invisible "elites"?

[Antonio]

If Jews 'own' the world, who sold it to them?




Excellent question. Here is the answer which is the result of my lifelong research of the subject. Nobody sold it to them, they have owned the planet since the beginning of the recorded history and probably before that. All the kings, aristocrats etc whom we believe to be goy elites have been in fact Jews or cryptos.
Again, thanks for the question.

[nunaem]

Are neanderthals (http://www.erichufschmid.net/Neanderthals/Blame-the-Neanderthals.html) human?


That is an interesting site, nunaem. Never saw it before. Through one of the links, I found this:


http://www.erichufschmid.net/VoR_phoneCall.html



Sounds like a case of projection to me.

Still, Ashkenazi Jews are a real odd-looking bunch. I wouldn't be surprised if they were at least partly descended from a close relative of the human species.

[hoarder]

They conquered it.
[/quote]

I believe we screwed ourselves.
[/quote]Blame the victim. The victim always deserves some blame for letting himself be deeived, but the deceiver deserves most of the blame.

[nunaem]

The victim always deserves some blame for letting himself be deeived, but the deceiver deserves most of the blame.


If the deceiver is a stranger, sure. But when reports of the deceiver's unscrupulousness go back 2000+ years, it falls more on the 'fool me twice' side of the spectrum.

[po boy]

It is not the Jews



SS, while I respect you for what you're doing, I'd say your full of crap.

Who did 9/11?
Who brought the U.S. into WWII?
Who controls the IMF?
Who controls the Federal Reserve?
Who promot?
Who runs the SPLC?
Who runs the ACLU?

Do I need to keep going or are you going to keep being an apologist for the jews while saying it's these invisible "elites"?





So what gives them the power? I'd say it's the FRN, reject the FRN don't teach your children Multiculturalism and Diversity.
Screw the SPLC and ACLU start the pro God club.
Don't practice the ten planks, you want freedom stop being a communist.
I see you bitching about the Jews you hate next it will be the dirty Arabs see your other thread after that it's the blacks, mexicans ,white trash, drug dealers or whatever other boogie man you can come up with.

I didn't see SS apologize for the jews, he just wasn't blaming one race of people for a country's sell out leaders.
What is easy to see is GoD bitching because he doesn't like being a communist.

Flame on!

[hoarder]

So what gives them the power? I'd say it's the FRN, Mass media is more powerful than the FRN. Without media, the FRN would have been gone a long time ago. But Khazars own both, and to pretend it has nothing to do with race is to fight a war not knowing who the enemy is. You can stop pretending it's just a systemic problem.

whatever other boogie man you can come up with.Jews are not the boogie man, they are the root of the problem.

[po boy]

I'd have to disagree I think communism is the problem and as far as I can tell it's still voluntary in this country.

I'm not pretending communism is systematically practiced by most Americans as it is rampant.

I agree the media is a powerful tool but I haven't had any Jews put a gun to my head to make me practice communism.

The opposite to freedom and responsibility is collectivism and limited liability.

Doing ones best to limit participation in a system that isn't beneficial for you or that helps one class more than another doesn't help protect freedom.

I see the enemy to freedom as communism and it is funded by the use of FRN (devils dollars).

As far as the root I start by looking in the mirror.

[keehah]

It is the smallest biggest part of the Abrahamic branch of psychopathic and fixed system odds supports profit of human tendency to communistic child likedenial of world reality.

[hoarder]

I agree the media is a powerful tool but I haven't had any Jews put a gun to my head to make me practice communism.

But they have used the influence of media to sell Marxism to many around you and you have to live with that.

Do you realize Jews invented, financed, promoted and implemented communism?

[Awoke]

The General is right. The Sons of "liberty" academy is a philo-semetic distraction.

I can see it plain as day. I have confronted Silver Shield on this before (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/christians-are-jew-whores/msg156358/#msg156358), and I don't buy into the whole bullshit schpeal about "attacking ideas, not groups".

You know who the group is. Hiding that truth from people is decieving them.


IT'S THE JEWS who are in league with lucifer.

[sunnyandseventy]

Learned a new word...


philo-semetic

And came across an interesting blog.....

http://www.judeofascism.com/2010/02/problem-of-genteel-philo-semitic.html

[po boy]

I agree the media is a powerful tool but I haven't had any Jews put a gun to my head to make me practice communism.

But they have used the influence of media to sell Marxism to many around you and you have to live with that.

Do you realize Jews invented, financed, promoted and implemented communism?


I do realize many are deceived and not surprised who would invent such a wealth robbing tool.

That doesn't mean I don't have a responsibility to myself to limit or quit practicing what I don't believe in.

In short communism is easy to go along with which is why it is so rampant. :-[

Would you be willing to live as Palani, as far as I can tell he is one of a small minority that limits his exposure as much as possible.

It is plain to see that there is no changing the Democratic (communist) system so complaining about it does nothing to change anything.An example of this is Ron Paul, he had no chance at being president but did an amazing feat by waking many from their slumber.

The change must come on an individual basis this is what I believe those that see should focus on rather that attacking each other. ;)

[keehah]

Supporting one part of the Abrahamic trinity generally results in support for its controlling Jewish shoulder. Like supporting wishes of Democrates supports the wishes of Republicans. One is playing the same game so the game grows in power.

Christians for Israel being the most obvious example.

Denial about it leads to outbursts IMO.

[Awoke]

Learned a new word...


philo-semetic

And came across an interesting blog.....

http://www.judeofascism.com/2010/02/problem-of-genteel-philo-semitic.html


Two things:

1) Philo-semetic just means "Jew friendly"
2) The blog stated that "Winston Churchill was philo-semetic to the point of corruption" when in fact Winston was a jew.

I didn't read the whole blog after that.

[hoarder]

That doesn't mean I don't have a responsibility to myself to limit or quit practicing what I don't believe in.

In short communism is easy to go along with which is why it is so rampant. :-[

Would you be willing to live as Palani, as far as I can tell he is one of a small minority that limits his exposure as much as possible.

OK, po boy. So it's about what we can do as an individual to avoid Marxism.

The effectiveness of anything people do to solve problems depends on how well they have diagnosed the problem.

If I had done an incomplete job of diagnosing the problem I might go the route you suggest.

But since I acknowledge the problem in it's entirety, I try to act in a manner that addresses the problem in it's entirety. Since mass media is at the root of the problem, I do everything I can to undermine the influence of those who have shown utter contempt for the free exchange of information by attempting to monopolize it.
I believe that by doing this, I hinder our covert rulers more than if I refused to use jewish funny money or played the legal eagle game. I don't discount the value of the latter methods, I just think my method is more effective.

[gunDriller]

While that is highly commendable let us be candid.

Do you think the enemy is going to to such lenghts to label who their adversary is or just make a broad brush statments about Anti Semetisim?

My enemy will get what they give.


one of our best allies in this situation is Jewish people who renounce Jewish nepotism & criminality & shed light on it.

there was a great interview yesterday with a Jewish guy, Guy Frazier ?, who grew up in Israel, "served" in the IDF, then renounced the whole thing.

the Talmud-worshippers' apparent best response is to call such people "self-hating Jews" - now that's weak.

[keehah]

No need to be so hard on the blogger Awoke. Perhaps it was used as a synonym.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/corruption

Definition of CORRUPTION

1 a : impairment of integrity, virtue, or moral principle : depravity
b : decay, decomposition
c : inducement to wrong by improper or unlawful means (as bribery)
d : a departure from the original or from what is pure or correct

2 archaic : an agency or influence that corrupts

[Awoke]

No need to be so hard on the blogger Awoke. Perhaps it was used as a synonym.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/corruption

Definition of CORRUPTION

1 a : impairment of integrity, virtue, or moral principle : depravity
b : decay, decomposition
c : inducement to wrong by improper or unlawful means (as bribery)
d : a departure from the original or from what is pure or correct

2 archaic : an agency or influence that corrupts



Oh, I didn't mean to sound like I was being hard on him. I just didn't take the time to read it all after the first couple paragraphs.
I guess I worded that wrong.

[keehah]

Oh, I didn't mean to sound like I was being hard on him. I just didn't take the time to read it all after the first couple paragraphs.
I guess I worded that wrong.


Please take it as an attempt at witty commentary, rather than a rebuke.
Its what I do about it. :-\

[Neuro]

I ordered Sushi today! It came with 6 minibottles of Kikkoman soy sauce. I saved 3!

[Bigjon]

Well in the world according to some here I screwed up, but there is a chance I could "spin" my screw up into something positive by illustrating a couple of the Jews main tactics "poison the well", "lead the opposition". Here is the text of a message I sent to my email list.
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Revelations by an ex-Jew
http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/mf/play/av6nkx/uglytruthAPR12010brnathanael2.mp3

http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/


The Ugly Truth is we have not been getting the other side of the story, to be truly informed; here are some links to the other side.
http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com/

Brother Nathanael Kapner
http://www.realzionistnews.com/

Many (lost) books on audio
http://www.iamthewitness.com/

Free Fall of buildings on 9/11 means an inside job.
http://www.buildingwhat.org/
http://ae911truth.org/

Jews arranged every aspect of 9/11
http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367&start=0&sid=1469fdd3faa15ff752483a4c989c0201

The Jews specialize in “False Flag Attacks”.
http://www.gtr5.com/
http://www.ussliberty.org/wrmeaarchive.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7384200507117357203#

The Jews have been very good at portraying themselves as victims, but is it true???
After studying this, I say that the only winners for the last 200 years have been the Jews.
http://vho.org/dl/ENG.html
http://knud.eriksen.adr.dk/index.html
http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/index.html
http://www.codoh.com/video/onethird.html
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/intern_jew.htm
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm
http://wake-up-america.net/index.htm
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=15930
http://jrbooksonline.com/

[Awoke]

Bah! You have to be a member of the Icke forum in order to read the thread that you posted, Big Jon. Just FYI.

(I tried)

[Bigjon]

Bah! You have to be a member of the Icke forum in order to read the thread that you posted, Big Jon. Just FYI.

(I tried)


It's free, all you have to do is register.

[Awoke]

I know. I just don't want to join the Icke forum. Thank you though.

[Bigjon]

Just for you Awoke.

The Auschwitz 'Gas Chamber' Illusion
by Nicholas Kollerstrom, PhD

As surprising as it may sound, the only intentional mass extermination program in the concentration camps of WW2 was targeted at Germans. From April, 1945 five million Germans were rounded up after surrendering, and deliberately starved until well over one million had died, in French and American-run concentration camps[1] - an event soon erased from the history books. There was, in contrast, never a centrally-coordinated Nazi program of exterminating Jews in Germany. Lethal gas chambers did not function in German labour-camps, that's just an illusion. The traditional Holocaust story has developed out of rumours, misunderstandings, and wartime propaganda. From stories pre-dating the Second World War to the Nuremberg Trials which gave official sanction to the notion, to subsequent trials, books and films, we have had it imprinted on our collective psyche. In most of Europe now, it is a thoughtcrime to believe what you have just read, punishable by imprisonment, so think carefully before deciding to read on.

The real experts on this subject are - in jail, so maybe you will put up with hearing my view instead? Europe needs, more than anything else, a truth and reconciliation forum to get to the bottom of these matters, and to try and exorcise the demonic hate-images. Ever more nations are passing laws that prohibit citizens from expressing doubt - Germany, France, Austria, Poland, Romania, Belgium, Switzerland, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Collectively, we need to work trough our despair, rage, and ideas of blame, to try and access the real historical record.

Cyanide at Auschwitz

Zyklon-B was used at Auschwitz, as an insecticide. It was vital in attempting to maintain hygiene that mattresses be deloused. Cyanide gas was adsorbed onto clay-type granules, designed to make the deadly gas as ‘safe’ as it could be. If you go to Auschwitz today, you can’t see any authentic gas chambers. You see stone huts, and experts have testified that they could not have been used to gas people, owing to problems in sealing them up (Zyklon-B released its cyanide gas rather slowly[2]).

In 1988 the scientific team of Fred Leuchter (a US execution-expert ‘Mr Death’ in gas-chamber technology) visited Poland, and concluded that the Auschwitz ‘gas chambers’ could not possibly have functioned in the alleged manner - i.e., they were not gas chambers[3]. In the following years, others would confirm the accuracy of his seminal, ‘Leuchter Report’. The German chemist Germar Rudolf, who worked at the Max Plank institute for Solid State Physics, is now in jail, because he likewise measured the high levels of the cyanide in the walls of the de-lousing chambers. It happens that this gas bonds permanently with iron, and iron is present in all the cement etc of stone walls. Whereas, he found none in the walls of what were supposed to be the ‘gas chambers’ which were mainly shower units. He thereby confirmed the work of Leuchter who likewise only found remains of the cyanide gas-insecticide in the delousing chambers.[4]

After Rudolf’s report was published in 1993, he lost his job and was prevented from completing his doctorate, then a few years later he was given a jail sentence. He is now in a high-security prison near Stuttgart, for the crime of not finding cyanide in the ‘gas chambers[5],’ echoing Leuchter’s cyanide residue investigations. [6] When a chemist is put in jail, for replicating the result of another - in Germany of all places, the nation which invented chemical procedure – then the farce cannot continue for much longer[7] (The gas chambers were conveniently located east of Germany behind the Iron Curtain to make them inaccessible to westerners, which helped the myth to flourish).

The Leuchter results were almost too good to be true, with a three orders of magnitude difference between the cyanide levels in the delousing chamber walls (about one part per thousand) and those in the washing chambers (aka ‘gas chambers’), around one part per million. They are not published in any peer-reviewed chemistry journal, for obvious reasons. The only way to hold a debate on this subject appears to be in a courtroom, while being prosecuted! It is hard to reach the calm condition necessary for replication of chemical measurements. Nonetheless people have replicated the fundamental result[8], and even folk with no interest in chemistry can appreciate the pretty blue colour on the outside of the de-lousing chamber (where the Ferro cyanide has seeped right through the wall) and its complete absence around the so-called ‘gas chambers.’ Let’s face it, the case is established: the cyanide poison was used where the German records state that it was used – for delousing mattresses, clothing etc - whereas it was not used where the US and UK (at Nuremberg) alleged.

Tourists, thirty million of them, have filed through ‘Krema 1’ at Auschwitz, with its piteous piles of shoes, etc of the dead. This was reconstructed after the war in 1946[9], a fact revealed 1992 by Dr. Franciszek Piper, the Senior Curator and Director of Archives of the Auschwitz State Museum. The historic remains from the camp are such things as shower-unit huts, a swimming pool and a morgue. There was a camp orchestra, and quite a collection of pictures from the camp art-classes,[10] although these cannot be shown in Germany or Poland, on account of laws prohibiting the doubting of the Holocaust. Anne Frank of ‘Diary’ fame came to the camp in 1944 with her father who was ill. He was put into the hospital there, and recovered, suggesting that he was decently looked after.[11]

The ‘gas chambers’ at Auschwitz had water pipes in their ceilings, indicating that they were designed as shower units. They generally lacked tight-seal doors, which would have been essential, even though these were easy to install – the Leuchter report cited the absence of such seals as one reason why the alleged ‘gas chambers’ would never have functioned.

The Arithmetic of Annihilation

The primary argument put forward by Professor Arthur Butz in his classic text, The Hoax of the 20th Century was demographic: the Jews of Europe were still there after the war and therefore had not been exterminated. They had generally moved eastwards, and once the Iron curtain came down in 1948 it became difficult to count them. Some two million emigrated from Europe, both to Palestine and America. Between 3 ½ and 4 million Jews had lived in all the lands controlled by Adolf Hitler[12], of which an upper limit of one million died in WW2: the figure of a million dead, ‘while possible, seems rather high to me’, concluded Butz[13],[14] - a figure to be contrasted with ten million Germans who died during and just after that war[15]. If somewhere around fifty million people died during WW2, that Jewish mortality comprised some 2% of this total: which is about the average for Europe, i.e. no great excess of Jews died in WW2. Almost half a million Jews dwelt in Germany around 1930 (around 1% of the population), and by 1939 many had emigrated, some 270,000 remaining[16].

The figure of six million dead is given in the ‘Holocaust’ section in Wikipedia, with three million having died in Poland. Its high ‘extermination’ figures are given in counties well to the East of Germany. East Europe was then the epicentre of world Jewry, and in the years around WWII a vast diaspora of Jews took place, mainly into what became the Soviet Union, but also Palestine and America. Poland had 10% of its total population Jewish in the 1930s and the Polish premier had ‘stated repeatedly that there were a million too many Jews in Poland’[17] –so the pressure on them to emigrate was not solely due to German policies. British rule in Palestine disintegrated in 1938, which meant that its strict immigration quotas ceased to apply. A very careful estimate of East Europe’s Jewish population ascertained that there were 2.6 million in Poland at the outbreak of the war - less than the total Polish ‘deaths’ given by Wikipedia. It put total worldwide mortality of Jews through WWII at 1 ¼ million, of which most was due to ‘Soviet barbarism’ rather than German labour-camps[18]. That seems quite comparable to the figure given above. Within the Nazi labour-camps, around four hundred and fifty thousand Jews died.[19]

Around 500,000 prisoners were registered in the labour-camps of Auschwitz in Poland, of which some 130,000 died[20]. Bodies were there disposed of by individual cremation, and the records for coke fuel consumption over the period February 1942 – October 1943 for the cremation ovens indicate that around five thousand bodies were then burnt. That accords with the number of registered, deceased inmates, viz those who had died from natural causes[21], who had to be cremated rather than buried because of the great typhoid epidemics. This demonstrates that no mass-incineration of bodies took place. Josef Kramer, a supervisor at the Auschwitz camp, gave a statement after the war which is recommended by Professor Butz as probably genuine: it had 350-500 deaths per week happening over May-November 1944, all from natural causes, a very high figure because sick prisoners were sent there, and the dead were all cremated. He believed the camp held up to 100,000 prisoners, mainly Poles and Prussians.[22]

The Final Solution – An Export Program

The ‘Final Solution’ of Adolf Hitler retained a single meaning right through WW2, central to the program of ‘National socialism,’ and signified the deportation of Jews, generally eastwards to Poland and Russia[23]. This program did not change at any point, e.g. the Wannsee conference of 1942,[24] to signify deliberate extermination. If that practice ever happened, it was not a centrally-directed policy and did not involve gas chambers: many tons of documentation of ‘third Reich’ policies remains, and no-one has been able to find therein any hint of such a meaning – of intentional genocide. The historical record fails to show any central decision to exterminate Jews by Nazi Germany.

The Gestapo and Zionists were collaborating in the late 30s because they had in this respect similar aims.[25] But, a German Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937 stated that: ‘In view of the anti-German agitation of international Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the world’.[26] International Jewish organisations twice declared war on Germany, in 1933 then again in 1939[27]. As the ‘final solution’ policy[28] was thwarted by the Allies, the camps became places of hard labour; then under the impact of Allied terror-bombing ravages of disease and famine took place.

No Documents!

At the Auschwitz trial held at Frankfurt in the mid-sixties, the court had to conclude that it lacked ‘almost all the means or evidence available in a normal murder trial’ including ‘the bodies of the victim, autopsy reports, expert reports on the cause of death, evidence as to the criminals, murder weapons, etc[29].’ Far from leading to doubt, this gave to the mythic gas chambers a metaphysical status, doubt of which was forbidden. 'No documents have survived, perhaps none ever existed,' concluded the Holocaust historian Léon Poliakov.[30]

‘In the case of the rush to impute to the Nazis a programme for the extermination of millions of people which has implausibly left no material traces, all the normal rules of historiography seem not only to have been suspended, but to have been violated over and over again. Historians routinely cite documents from secondary works like Raul Hilberg's The Destruction of the European Jews (1961) or from printed collections of documents, such as Robert Wolfe's Holocaust: The Documentary Evidence - but they never cite original documents.[31]

The nearest we have to primary-source documents concerning what went on within the camps, comes from the bulky, three-volume International Red Cross Report published in 1948. This and especially Volume III describes the couple of thousand regular, routine inspection-visits that its doctors made through the war years to the Polish labour-camps. Their report never hints at any gas-chamber, nor any mass-cremations. While maintaining a politically neutral position[32], it confirms that mortality in the camps was to a large extent caused by the allied terror-bombing.[33] Likewise Winston Churchill’s bulky, six-volume account of the War gives no allusion to the subject, especially volume Six, Triumph and Tragedy where one would expect to have some allusion if he believed it had happened.[34]

The head of the SS camp administration office sent a directive dated Dec. 28, 1942, to Auschwitz and the other concentration camps. It sharply criticised the high death rate of inmates due to disease, and ordered that "camp physicians must use all means at their disposal to significantly reduce the death rate in the various camps." Furthermore, it ordered: “The camp doctors must supervise more often than in the past the nutrition of the prisoners and, in cooperation with the administration, submit improvement recommendations to the camp commandants ... The camp doctors are to see to it that the working conditions at the various labor places are improved as much as possible.” The directive stressed that "the Reichsfuhrer SS [Heinrich Himmler] has ordered that the death rate absolutely must be reduced."[35] A further letter to all concentration camp commanders dated 20th January, 1943, reaffirmed that ‘every means must be used to lower the death rate.’ By September 1943 Auschwitz still had mortality peaking at 80/day, viewed as ‘catastrophic’ by the SS administration. Thus, from authentic documents concerning the need to reduce fatalities at the Auschwitz camp, the world has moved to a belief in genocide, with not a single authentic, supporting document[36]. The Auschwitz camp was set up as an industrial plant using the giant coalfields of Poland, and located at the confluence of rivers; it was essential to the war-effort - it would have made no sense to start exterminating its inmates.

The Hamburg judge Wilhelm Staeglich had been positioned near Auschwitz during the war and had on various occasions dropped into the camps around there. The conditions seemed fairly tolerable, he recalled, and certainly nothing resembling an extermination program existed. In particular, he had discerned no fear of mistreatment amongst the inmates. He published a testimony to this effect in 1973, and in return for his shocking news a German inquisition forced him to resign his job, stripped him of his doctoral degree, and banned his book. He was then subjected to police raids. His book, translated into English, is an essential text.[37]

German military radio messages were successfully decrypted at Bletchley Park using the ‘enigma’ codebreaker. Concerning the labour camps, over the period Spring 1942-February ’43, the following information was obtained: ‘The return from Auschwitz, the largest of the camps with 20,000 prisoners, mentioned illness as the main cause of death, but included references to shootings and hangings. There were no references in the decrypts to gassings.’[38] That seems clear enough - though no-one took any notice of it at Nuremberg.

No Photos!

Not only is there no trace of ‘Third Reich’ documentation[39] for what is alleged, but no photographs exist showing anything resembling such a group-gassing procedure. Do you believe that Jews both male and female stripped then marched into the gas chambers, then were hauled out in piles? If so, are you willing to believe that neither the very-thorough Germans nor the clever Jews wanted or were able to get a single picture of this ultimate horror? Go to Google and search – you’ll find rows of emaciated bodies, dead of typhus, will that do? I don’t think so.

US air-photographs taken in 1944 (released in 1978) when the ‘program’ was supposed to be in full swing do not show any huge crematoria burning corpses nor queues entering the ‘gas chambers: ‘The few air photos of Auschwitz-Birkenau known to date from the period of December 1943 to February 1945 show no signs of fuel depots, smoke from chimneys or open fires, burning pits or pyres. The photos were altered: Zyklon B input hatches, groups of inmates, and walls around crematoria were retouched onto the photo negatives … To this day there is no air photo evidence to support the alleged mass murder of the Jews at any location in Europe occupied by the Germans during World War Two….That the photos in western hands were altered in order to incriminate Germany, and were first published by the CIA, is also very significant indeed.’[40]

The Fabrication of Untruth

Let’s hear a couple of testimonies concerning the dreaded gas-chambers. An Austrian woman, Maria Van Herwaarden, testified about her camp experiences in a Toronto District Court in March 1988, as she had been interned in Auschwitz-Birkenau in 1942 for having sexual relations with a Polish forced laborer. On the train trip to the camp, a Gypsy woman told her and the others that they would all be gassed at Auschwitz. Upon arrival, Maria and the other women were ordered to undress and go into a large concrete room without windows to take a shower. The terrified women were sure that they were about to die. But then, instead of gas, water came out of the shower heads. Auschwitz was no vacation center, Maria confirmed, and she witnessed the death of many fellow inmates by disease, particularly typhus, and quite a few committed suicide. But she saw no evidence at all of mass killings, gassings, or of any extermination program.[41] A Jewish woman named Marika Frank arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau from Hungary in July 1944, when 25,000 Jews were supposedly gassed and cremated daily. She likewise testified after the war that she heard and saw nothing of "gas chambers" during the time she was interned there. She heard the gassing stories only later.[42]

The Allied carpet-bombing destroyed the supply lines for the Camps, and so the death-toll mounted from famine and disease. Leaflets were dropped from the air, alleging that at Auschwitz a ‘final solution’/extermination of Jews policy was being conducted, using gas. [43] That was the genesis of the story, as those Allied-propaganda leaflets were believed. Greeted by the sight, of rows of famished Jews who had died of e.g. typhoid, it was not hard to see its confirmation. ‘Far from it being common knowledge in Germany that people were being gassed … the vast majority of Germans were horrified by the United Nations accusations and they protested that they had never heard of such acts until after the cessation of hostilities when they had begun listening to United Nations broadcasts …. Since the British Broadcasting Corporation had been broadcasting these accusations regularly for many months before the end of the war, those Germans who had "common knowledge" of the gassing before the war's end most likely got this "knowledge" from the BBC!’[44] The gas-chamber legend was born in December 1941, when the German author Thomas Mann declared on the BBC that, in German hospitals, the severely wounded, the old and the feeble were culled with poison gas. This was the ‘first appearance of gas chambers in propaganda.’[45]

[Bigjon]

As to how the stories got going, here is a remark by Faurisson: ‘The Foreign Office saw the new rumors of the Second World War only as Jewish inventions, and many in American circles shared that conviction[46]. Edward Beneš, President of Czechoslovakia (in exile in London), announced in November 1942, after inquiry by his staff, that the Germans, contrary to what had been reported to him, were not exterminating the Jews. The American Jew, Felix Frankfurter, a Supreme Court judge, stated to Jan Karski on the subject: "I can't believe you." In August of 1943, Cordell Hull, Secretary of State, warned the U.S. ambassador in Moscow by telegram that in planning a joint Allied statement on "the German crimes in Poland", it would be advisable to eliminate any mention of the gas chambers, since, as the British pointed out, there was "insufficient evidence" in the matter[47]

The Hoax of Nuremberg

A modern inquiry needs to start from the data-fabrication at Nuremberg by the US/UK, using systematic assassination and torture of witnesses. The Nuremberg trials started in 1946 with the image of six million dead as firmly established.[48] This did not emerge as a conclusion from the trials, but in its immensity it was presented to the tortured and/or beaten[49] Nazis as a fact, and would they confess their part in it? All the main defendants at Nuremberg insisted that prior to the trial they had not known of any mass murder of Jews: except that Rudolf Höss, the former Commandant of Auschwitz, signed on March 15, 1946, a document averring that he had overseen the slaughter of two and a half million Jews, and this was read out on 15th April at Nurnberg. That day signified the birth of Auschwitz’s horror-myth. Two weeks earlier, Höss had remarked:

Certainly, I signed a statement that I killed two and half million Jews. I could just as well have said it was five million Jews. There are certain methods by which any confession can be obtained, whether it is true or not.”[50]

Decades later, an account was published of how Höss had been tortured for three days and nights without sleep by a British army team in order to extract that statement.[51] In a letter to his wife, Höss apologised for his ‘confessions’ and explains that they had been extracted from him under torture[52]. The victorious Allies could not have their ‘truth’ come out at Nuremberg, without the assistance of torture. In 2001, Patricia Meehan discussed the network of secret "Direct Interrogation Centres" the British had set up in their occupational zone of Germany[53] - torture chambers, to prepare ‘evidence’ for the upcoming trials. A Zionist influence was noted at the Nuremberg trials,[54] not least concerning the figure of six million.[55]
Weighty books are in print as memorials to ‘the Holocaust’, but, let’s hear a sceptical view from Down Under:

“…Yet in the case of the Holocaust, the dearth of material evidence for the existence of large-scale extermination programme is not perceived as significant. It is assumed that the Nazis destroyed their vast death machinery so thoroughly as to preclude all possibility of post-war detection. It is not permissible to express doubts as to whether the Nazis could really have eliminated all material evidence so completely, including making the ashes of six million people vanish from the locations at which they must have been interred. To think such doubts is to engage in thought crime….

‘The reality, therefore, is that the bulk of the 'evidence' for the Holocaust derives from a corpus of documents that was expressly manufactured by the OSS and OCC in 1945-46 for the purpose of incriminating the leaders of the former German government at Nuremberg. The procedure went roughly along these lines: the Documentation Division in Paris created 'copies' (in English only), certified them as true, and sent them to the prosecution in Nuremberg, while the original documents (if they ever existed) were never seen or heard of again. German translations of the original English texts were then prepared and sent to the defense in Nuremberg, where they arrived as late as possible so that the defense had insufficient time to worry about such matters as their authenticity….

‘Starting in May 1945 with the alleged suicides of SS-General Hans-Adolf Prützmann, SS head Heinrich Himmler and SS-General Odilo Globocnik while in British captivity, there followed a bizarre string of murders of individuals associated with the Auschwitz concentration camp. (These were perpetrated by a Jewish hit squad known as the DIN.) As Joseph Bellinger, author of a new book on Himmler's murder, points out, within six months or so of the war's end practically any one who could have shed light on the Jewish policy of the Third Reich was murdered!’ This, it must be said, was extremely convenient for the prosecution at Nuremberg.[56]

At Nuremberg, the German war-generals as well as being tortured had their wives arrested, to dissuade them from making inappropriate remarks in court. They were kept in solitary confinement to prevent their comparing notes, as each was presented with the Great Untruth and asked to believe it. Finally, most of them were hanged, by a court which felt free to invent new laws, and to act as prosecutor, judge, lawyer and executioner: American justice!

[Bigjon]

Coming of the Truthseekers

In the post-war years, anyone claiming to have a personal memory of the German gas-chambers would be liable to have Paul Rassinier turn up on their doorstep. Having himself experience the hell of the Buchenwald camp he was far from being a fan of the Nazis; but, neither was he prepared to endure fabricated stories on the subject. He spent years travelling about Europe with his tape-recorder and questions, but always he found that the witnesses came out with ‘evasions or palpable lies,’ and his published report concluded:

With regard to the gas chambers, the almost endless procession of false witnesses and of falsified documents to which I have drawn the reader’s attention during this long study, proves, nevertheless, one thing: never at any moment did the responsible authorities of the Third Reich intend to order - or in fact order – the extermination of the Jews in this or any other manner.[57]

That bold conclusion (for which he was, naturally, jailed) kick-started the ‘revisionist’ movement! We may here note that the money which the FRG keeps paying out to ‘holocaust survivors’ does enormous damage here, in stimulating ‘memories’ and generating such averred cases.


Revisionist Pioneers: David Irving, Ernst Zündel, and Germar Rudolf

Robert Faurisson investigated the configuration of the alleged Auschwitz ‘gas chambers,’ then Zundel[58] got to hear of this. At a historic 1985 trial in Toronto, witnesses were grilled for the first time ever over the existence of the alleged ‘gas chambers,’ and it was found that no such testimony would stand up. Faurisson was an advisor to Zundel in this trial, and a subsequent one, and this duo just kept on winning the arguments. The prosecution could come up with no credible witnesses for a gas-chamber’s existence:

“… in 1988, during the second trial against Ernst Zündel, the public prosecutor deemed it prudent to abandon any recourse to witnesses. Canadian justice had apparently understood the lesson of the first trial: there were no credible witnesses to the existence and operation of the 'Nazi gas chambers'. Little by little, every other country in the world has learned this same lesson. At the trial of Klaus Barbie in France, in 1987, there was talk about the gas chambers of Auschwitz but no one produced any witnesses who could properly speak about them. All the while in France, during several revisionist trials, Jewish witnesses sometimes came to evoke the gas chambers but none of them testified before the court as to having seen one or having participated in a homicidal gassing by hauling bodies out of the 'gas chambers'.

“Today, gas chamber witnesses are making themselves extremely scarce and the Demjanjuk trial in Israel, which once again has revealed how much false testimony is involved in the matter, has contributed to the suppression. Several years ago, it happened that I was aggressively questioned at the rear of a law court by elderly Jews who presented themselves as "living witnesses to the gas chambers of Auschwitz", showing me their tattoos. It was necessary for me only to ask them to look me in the eyes and to describe for me a gas chamber that inevitably they retorted: "How could I do this? If I had seen a gas chamber with my own eyes I would not be here today to speak with you; I myself would have been gassed also."”[59] (Faurisson)

The study of history cannot exist without dissenting views, and who would want to read a history journal that did not allow this? One fails to understand why ‘revisionism’ should be reprehensible, and Jews especially should be relieved to discover that their ancestors were never subject to such a horror. Bestselling author David Irving, who has written over a dozen books on WWII, was recently jailed[60]. His definitive, 700- page blockbuster Hitler’s War gave no hint that the Fuhrer ever got to hear of a gas chamber, or gave any extermination command! Irving is known for the care with which he checks out his primary-source material. In 1991 his publisher, Macmillan, destroyed all their copies of his books. Irving has paid quite a price for the truth he discovered.

In November 1991 Fred Leuchter was about to speak at Chelsea Town Hall (invited by David Irving), when he was arrested onstage by the police at the request of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, and deported back to the United States. So much for freedom of speech. When his trailblazing ‘Leuchter Report’ was first published in 1989, the House of Commons denounced it as ‘Nazi propaganda’ and a ‘fascist publication’ (on July 20th, with 100 MPs voting). Even the House of Commons, however, cannot alter the laws of chemistry: the durability of the ferrocyanide ion is now pivotal to the Holocaust debate!

We are not likely to get important insights unless the ‘thoughtcrime’ penalty is lifted from the German people, and they are allowed to review their own past. The definitive modern textbook, Dissecting the Holocaust has chapters by some twenty different authors over six hundred pages.[61] In 1995 the German Government demanded that all copies be confiscated and burnt![62] Edited by Germar Rudolf, it draws its inspiration from the pioneer labours of Ernst Zundel. While in Tennessee and publishing ‘revisionist’ material, he was seized by the police and thrown into solitary confinement in a Canadian jail[63]. After two years he was transferred to Germany, where his trial now progresses. He recently (October 2006) read to the court an open letter from the Iranian president to Germany’s chancellor - to the judge’s fury. The letter said, in effect, that Germany had been on its knees before Zion for fifty years and it was time to get up[64].

Here are conclusions which Professor Robert Faurisson (University of Lyon) has drawn:: [65]

that there was neither an order, nor a plan, nor a budget for the alleged genocide of the Jews;

that 'Wannsee' was at best only a "silly story";

that there existed no specialist's report on the weapon of the crime concluding that 'the building (whether intact, "reconstructed", or in ruins) served as a homicidal gas chamber';

that there is no autopsy that would allow us to conclude: 'This is the corpse of a deportee killed by poison gas'[66]

that the confession of Rudolf Höß was no longer of any value ("Höß was always a very weak and confused witness");

that their alleged witnesses had probably never seen gas chambers or gassings inasmuch as the best of them, the famous Rudolf Vrba, in 1985, had been obliged to admit before a Canadian judge and jury that in his famous book on the subject he had made use of "poetic licence" or "licentia poetarum";

that the "Jewish soap" had never existed;

that the figure of four million victims at Auschwitz was only a fiction;

and that from 1942 to 1945, certainly at Auschwitz, but probably overall, more Jews were killed by so-called 'natural' causes [starvation, disease, sickness and overwork] than by 'unnatural' ones.

At the recent Tehran conference, Faurisson summed up his case more succinctly –

• They cannot invoke a single document proving the crime.
• They are unable to provide the least representation of the crime weapon.
• They do not possess any proof nor even any evidence.
• They cannot name a single truthful witness[67]

Forbidden Doubt and Fictional Horror

Doubt anything in our modern world, scoff at sacred texts, no-one will care - except that one kind of doubt is forbidden to you, which will land you in jail – in ten different nations! You can read the Hammer-horror account in, e.g., Auschwitz by Lawrence Rees (2005): every hour or so, a thousand naked Jews were marched (somehow) into a room with space for maybe one or two hundred, the doors are locked, then the Zyklon-B is poured down special chutes or holes in the ceiling (which did not exist in the war, they were added later), then after the screaming stops ‘powerful fans’ remove the poison gas. In your dreams, Mr Rees. There were no such powerful fans. But, then what? The mass of bodies will be mixed up with the Zyklon-B, and that is specifically designed to keep emitting the cyanide gas slowly. How is anyone supposed to shovel out this tortured mass of corpses mixed up with poison powder? Remember there are only ordinary-sized doors, mostly opening inwards. Its an unthinkable nightmare that could not possibly have worked, and would certainly have gassed any workers trying to operate it. It is the ‘safe’ design of this insecticide material, which would have prevented it from functioning in this deliriously-imagined manner.

No German government existed after the war, that was the ‘unconditional surrender’ which the Allies demanded. By losing both its senior military staff and government, Germany was in effect decapitated - necessary for the illusory version of events to be perpetrated. The verdicts of Nuremberg were made final and binding for the post-war FRG. Germany has since paid a hundred billion Deutschmarks to Israel by way of Holocaust-compensation – clearly, that needs to be refunded. Germany should take the advice of Iranian leader Ahmadinajad and stop paying it, because that funding provides undue motivation for holocaust ‘memories.’ Germany is helping to maintain the holocaust legend,[68] by thus aiding the state of Israel.[69]

The United Nations has now established its annual Holocaust Remembrance Day on 27 January, as of 2006. On this anniversary, we all need to mull over the faking of history and the Greatest Lie Ever Told. As Perseus gazed at the Medusa only via a mirror, to avoid being petrified, to too we need calm reflection and the power of Truth to avoid our collective destruction.

END NOTES

[1] ‘Starting in April 1945, the United States Army and the French Army casually annihilated about one million men, most of them in the American camps,’ a part of the US-UK-Russia plan ‘to destroy Germany as a world power once and for all…’ James Bacque Other Losses London 1989 p.xix.

[2] www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=55888

[3] Fred Leuchter, Auschwitz: the First Forensic Examination of Auschwitz: London, 1989; 1988, Toronto. www.zundelsite.org/english/basic_articles/inside.html For debate, see: www.codoh.com/gcgv/gc426v12.html

[4] http://vho.org/GB/Books/trr//

[5] www.takeourworldback.com/short/rudolfarrested.htm

[6] http://vho.org/GB/Books/trr/ www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/14/43f1778c0f7e0

[7] www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndgcger.html

[8] www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/014_jam.html In 1990 the Krakow Forensic Institute obtained somewhat lower values: their brick samples from Auschwitz ‘gas chambers’ gave a maximum of 0.6 parts per million of cyanide ––ie, hardly a trace: www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/polish/institute-for-forensic-research/table-three.html

[9] www.rense.com/general53/aauz.htm, www.ihr.org/jhr/v15/v15n1p23_Weber.html

[10] http://judicial-inc.biz/Auschwitz.htm

[11] Dittlieb Felderer, Anne Frank’s diary a Hoax, IHR CA 1979, p.1; www.radioislam.org/annefrank/.

[12]Did Six Million Really die? (Richard Harwood, Historical Review Press, 1975: a 30-page monograph) pp.6, 28. An official German source of June 1940 put the figure at 3 ¼ million Jews ‘in all the territories now under German control’ (i.e. it excludes Russia). W. Staeglich, Auschwitz – a Judge Looks at the Evidence’ IHR 1986, p.29.

[13] A.R.Butz, The Hoax of the 200th Century (Historical Review Press, 1977, Brighton, 2003), p.239.

Paul Rassinier ((Debunking the Genocide Myth

[15] Ibid p.240..

[16] Walter Sanning, The Dissolution of European Jewry, IHR 1983, p.27.

[17] J&D. Kimche, The Secret Roads, the “Illegal Migration of a Peoplee 1954, p.215.

[18] Ref. 16, pp.32,198.

[19] Dissecting the Holocaust: The Growing Critique of "Truth" and "Memory" ed. germar rudolf, 2003, p. 216: www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/found.html, Ch. “Holocaust victims – A Statistical analysis.”

[20] Dissecting (www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndGraf.html) section 4.1

[21] Dissecting (ref 19), p.406.

[22] There were a network of labour camps around the small town of Auchwitz and this figure would be their total population. The gas-chamber allegations centred on the Birkenau (Auchwitz II) camp. British-intelligence estimate of 20,000 population (ref. 37) must have been for just one camp. Kramer’s statement alluded to the gassing stories: ‘All I can say is that it is untrue from beginning to end.’ Butz (ref 12), p.265.

[23] In the German endlosung, ‘end’ signifies ‘goal’ and ‘aim’, at least as much as ‘final.’

[24] The minutes of the Wannsee Conference (Berlin, 20th January 1942) provide ‘unambiguous documentary evidence that no extermination program existed:’ Butz, p.212;. For its text, see Staeglich (ref 12), Appendix I.

[25] Butz p.233.

[26] Quoted by Zundel, www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/022_jam.html

[27] 24 March 1933: www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/freedman.htm, http://k0nsl.com/k0nsl/detox/Judea1.html Daily Express headline, ‘Judea declares war on Germany;’ then again, on 5th Sept 1939 (8th Sept, Jewish Chronicle) “The Israeli people around the world declare economic and financial war against Germany … holy war against Hitler’s people” declared by Chain Weizmann, Zionist leader: Six Million (ref 12) p.4; , For Those Who Cannot Speak M. McLaughlin, Historical Review Press 1979 p.17. Staeglich, p.57.

[28] On June 17th 1942, Hitler remarked: ‘One could found a state of Israel in Madagascar,’ (Six Million, p.5) suggesting that the National-Socialist ‘final solution’ was then still viewed as feasible. Many ‘Zionists’ for whom Palestine was unfeasible looked at Madagascar.

[29] Dissecting (ref. 19), p.38. n.119.

[30] Léon Poliakov, Harvest of Hate, 1979.

[31] Social Democracy Now website http://www.blogigo.co.uk/socialdemocracynow/accuse-indictment-academic-historians-for-their-unprofessional/45/ (February, 2006).

[32] See Butz’ discussion of this Report (ref 13), p. 142ff.

[33] Report of the International Committee of the Red Cross WW2, 1948, Vol.3. www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2735

[34] General Eisenhower may have alluded to the subject, in one paragraph: after the war he visited a ‘horror camp’ near Gotha, where he saw evidence of ‘Nazi brutality’. D. Eisenhower, Crusade in Europe, 1948, p.408.

[35] Dissecting, p.289.

[36] Irving, Nuremberg, p.188 n.16, for absence of German ‘holocaust’ documents.

[37] Steiglich, ref. 12.

[38] British Intelligence in World War Two, HMSO, 1981 F.Hinsey Ed., Vol. II, p.673.

[39] For discussion of an alleged statement by Himmler concerning extermination, see Butz (ref.13) p.193.

[40] J. C. Ball, Air Photo Evidence, www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndaerial.html

[41] www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml www.ihr.org/books/kulaszka/21herwaarden.html

[42] Abrams, Voices from the Holocaust p.196

[43] In the Anne Frank ‘Diary’, she gets to hear in October 1942 about Jews going to gas-chambers, solely via the ‘English radio: The Diary of Anne Frank, Pan 1989, pp.43, 130; Felderer (ref. 11), p.13.

[44] www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p261_Lindsey.html. The story appears in a 1944 War Refugee Board report German Extermination Camps: Auschwitz and Birkenau, Washington, Executive office of the President, the WRB being ‘an instrument of the World Jewish congress:’ Butz p.66-7; Staglich p.93-8.

[45] Butz, p.174.

[46] “The whole propaganda which started about Auschwitz abroad was initiated by us with the help of our Polish comrades… It is no exaggeration when I say that the majority of all Auschwitz propaganda, which was spread at that time all over the world, was written by ourselves in the camp…." Bruno Baum, communist’ (Dissecting, p.115).

[47] www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndfaurpref.html

[48] David Irving, Nuremberg the Last battle (1996): US judge Robert Jackson was initially advised of the ‘six million’ figure by influential Jews: ‘Chapter 4, The Origin of six Million.’

[49] ‘All but two of the Germans [on trial at Nuremberg], in the 139 cases that we investigated, had their testicles kicked in beyond repair. This was standard operating procedure with our American investigators:’ 23.1.49, The Sunday Pictorial (quoted in For Those Who Cannot Speak (ref. 27), p.21.

[50] Höss spoke these words to Moritz von Schirmeister in a car on his way to Nurnberg on 1st April, 1946: www.rense.com/general68/Höss.htm. Faurisson states that Bernard Clarke, Höss’s chief torturer, was Jewish, but this is not in Butler’s book. Irving (ref 47), p.241.

[51] Rupert Butler, Legions of Death 1983, pp.237-8; Dissecting, p.96; Staeglich (ref. 12), pp.193-216.

[52] The letter is preserved: Irving, Nuremberg, p.246.

[53] Patricia Meehan, A Strange Enemy People: Germans under the British 1945-50, 2001.

[54] According to The Jewish Chronicle, the World Jewish congress ‘had secured the holding of the Nuremberg trials at which it had provided expert advice and much valuable evidence’ (16.12.49): McLaughlin, Nuremberg and other war crime Trials, Historical Review Press, 1979, p.54.

[55] For Zionists occupying top positions at the Nuremberg trials, see Butz (ref 13) p.30.

[56] Ref. (31).

[57] Rassinier (ref. 14) p.270.

[58] www.zundelsite.org/

[59] www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndwitness.html

[60] www.ihr.org/newsletters/ihr_update_december_2006.pdf; released, December 2006.

[61] Ref. 19.

[62] www.codoh.com/found/found.html. Academics protested against this search-and-destroy operation: www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Holocaust.html In 2005 G.R. Rudolf deported from America: www.rense.com/general68/scientistgermar.htm.

[63] Zundel was charged for the crime of having promoted the pamphlet Did Six Million Really die? (ref 11) This brilliant pamphlet, banned in many nations, has sold in hundreds of thousands in various languages, and let us hope it will come to be studied by every schoolchild.

[64] www.zundelsite.org/zundel_persecuted/sept11-06_letter.html

[65] Dissecting, preface: http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndfaurpref.html.

[66] US forensic pathologist Dr Charles Larsen performed autopsies in 1945 at Dachau and other German labour-camps. He is quoted as saying to a newpaper in 1980: ‘There never was a case of poison gas uncovered:’ www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=55. But, his biography Crime Doctor (J.D.McCallum, Canada 1979) has him saying that at Dachau ‘a relatively few of the inmates I personally examined were murdered in this manner,’ viz. by cyanide pellets: these were, he reckoned, ‘mercy killings’ only for psychotic prisoners, p.61.

[67] He found Butz’ book to be still the best one on the topic, with which one may agree. A Paris court found Faurisson guilty (February 2005) of the crime of Holocaust denial, for affirming on Iranian TV, ‘There was never a single execution gas chamber under the Germans.’ He presided over the Holocaust-re-evaluation conference at Tehran, December 2006. See his excellent lecture there given: http://www.ziopedia.org/content/view/2676/58/

[68] The Six Million Reconsidered, Ed W. Grimsted, Hist. Rev. Press 1977.

[69] www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/022_jam.html

Taken from: CODOH.com
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I did not come to the conclusion that the holocaust was a fraud because of what the revisionists said, I came to the conclusion because of what the holocaust historians said themselves!

[Awoke]

Thanks BigJon. I have read the first section, and will finish the rest later on.

It is reminiscent of a book I am reading now called "Debating the Holocaust: A new look at both sides", which is supposedly written by an unbiased author, but it is very obvious that he is a denier as you read through it.

I know it's all a lie. (The holohoax)

When I have the time I will transcribe a section from that book in which they talk about the munber 6 milllion.
Apparently 6 million hews have died about 8 or more times already throughout history! LOL. Totally impossible, based on all records of their total population throughout history!

It's funny how they shoot themselves in the foot with their lies.

[po boy]

Off topic as much as on topicwww.youtube.com/watch?v=kLG66ER0UUM&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLG66ER0UUM&feature=related)

[Silver Shield]

It is not the Jews



SS, while I respect you for what you're doing, I'd say your full of crap.

Who did 9/11?
Who brought the U.S. into WWII?
Who controls the IMF?
Who controls the Federal Reserve?
Who promotes Multiculturalism and Diversity?
Who runs the SPLC?
Who runs the ACLU?

Do I need to keep going or are you going to keep being an apologist for the jews while saying it's these invisible "elites"?




It is not the Jews...
Its the Zionists if you look at the Rothschild mafia...
But what about the very powerful Rockefeller mafia?

[Horn]

Jews own the world, wtf are you doing about it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaGOzHOENjk

[Bigjon]

It is not the Jews



SS, while I respect you for what you're doing, I'd say your full of crap.

Who did 9/11?
Who brought the U.S. into WWII?
Who controls the IMF?
Who controls the Federal Reserve?
Who promotes Multiculturalism and Diversity?
Who runs the SPLC?
Who runs the ACLU?

Do I need to keep going or are you going to keep being an apologist for the jews while saying it's these invisible "elites"?




It is not the Jews...
Its the Zionists if you look at the Rothschild mafia...
But what about the very powerful Rockefeller mafia?


If your holy book is the Talmud, you believe you are higher than god and that is you are a JEW.

It is the JEW that is the problem.

[Horn]

Who was it that said the world couln't be gained thru being a royal & proffesional ass-kisser?

[iOWNme]

To keep this in perspective, the Redshield's and the Rockefeller families have only been around for a couple hundred years.

So who has been running Satan's Master Plan here on earth for the last couple thousand years or so?

[po boy]

Satan?

[Panoptimist]

To keep this in perspective, the Redshield's and the Rockefeller families have only been around for a couple hundred years.

So who has been running Satan's Master Plan here on earth for the last couple thousand years or so?


In 1492, Chemor, chief Rabbi of Spain, wrote to the Grand Sanhedrin, which had its seat in Constantinople, for advice, when a Spanish law threatened expulsion.2

This was the reply:

” Beloved brethren in Moses, we have received your letter in which you tell us of the anxieties and misfortunes which you are enduring. We are pierced by as great pain to hear it as yourselves.

The advice of the Grand Satraps and Rabbis is the following:

1. As for what you say that the King of Spain obliges you to become Christians: do it, since you cannot do otherwise.

2. As for what you say about the command to despoil you of your property: make your sons merchants that they may despoil, little by little, the Christians of theirs.

3. As for what you say about making attempts on your lives: make your sons doctors and apothecaries, that they may take away Christians’ lives.

4. As for what you say of their destroying your synagogues: make your sons canons and clerics in order that they may destroy their churches. [Emphasis mine]

5. As for the many other vexations you complain of: arrange that your sons become advocates and lawyers, and see that they always mix in affairs of State, that by putting Christians under your yoke you may dominate the world and be avenged on them.

6. Do not swerve from this order that we give you, because you will find by experience that, humiliated as you are, you will reach the actuality of power.

(Signed) PRINCE OF THE JEWS OF CONSTANTINOPLE.”

2. The reply is found in the sixteenth century Spanish book, La Silva Curiosa, by Julio-Iniguez de Medrano (Paris, Orry, 1608), on pages 156 and 157, with the following explanation: “This letter following was found in the archives of Toledo by the Hermit of Salamanca, (while) searching the ancient records of the kingdoms of Spain; and, as it is expressive and remarkable, I wish to write it here.” — vide, photostat facing page 80.

[Buddha]

To keep this in perspective, the Redshield's and the Rockefeller families have only been around for a couple hundred years.

So who has been running Satan's Master Plan here on earth for the last couple thousand years or so?


Not to be an ass, but all evil began with the jews?

[ShortJohnSilver]

From the Wikipedia page on Fred Leuchter ... an inadvertant admission:

"The chambers were demolished by the Nazis when they abandoned Auschwitz, and the facilities Leuchter examined were, in fact, partially reconstructed."

i.e. the facilities as they stand today are a fabrication.

[DMac]

Jews own the world, wtf are you doing about it?

Dropping out of as many of their systems as I can and helping those in my circles understand why they should be doing the same.

The fact of the matter, as I see it, is that in order to fight this beast head on is to adopt strategy and tactics that would get us all thrown in the pen for discussing online.

Not doing that, the only option left is what I wrote above.

[DMac]

To keep this in perspective, the Redshield's and the Rockefeller families have only been around for a couple hundred years.

So who has been running Satan's Master Plan here on earth for the last couple thousand years or so?



The de Medici's (1300s-1700s) are one example of a powerful bloodline in history. We have to look outside of just Europe to properly answer this question, IMO, as we follow the path down history.

[Bigjon]

From the Wikipedia page on Fred Leuchter ... an inadvertant admission:

"The chambers were demolished by the Nazis when they abandoned Auschwitz, and the facilities Leuchter examined were, in fact, partially reconstructed."

i.e. the facilities as they stand today are a fabrication.


Ah, the ever changing story. That is not what was claimed until Mr. Leuchter came along.

The ever changing story with the never changing total. Jews fail math.

[iOWNme]

To keep this in perspective, the Redshield's and the Rockefeller families have only been around for a couple hundred years.

So who has been running Satan's Master Plan here on earth for the last couple thousand years or so?


Not to be an ass, but all evil began with the jews?


You backed my point up.

Everyone likes to point to the Redshields and Rockefellers. It is quite obvious this conspiracy is much older than a couple hundred years....These players are merely the face of the conspiracy, IMO.

[Antonio]

There are pyramids all over this planet, not just in Egypt, they are in South America, China and the biggest one has recently been discovered in Bosnia. Whoever had the power to build these structures, surely controlled the planet at the time. The only question is, has this entity left the planet or is it occupying the seat of power today?

[Trinity]

The only question is, has this entity left the planet or is it occupying the seat of power today

My guess, that entity bred itself out of existence or just plain stopped breading.

[Antonio]

The only question is, has this entity left the planet or is it occupying the seat of power today

My guess, that entity bred itself out of existence or just plain stopped breading.


Trinity, Egyptian mummies contain traces of cocaine and nicotine in their tissues. This proves the connection between Egypt and Mesoamerica.
Those who build the pyramids could certainly have more advanced aircraft than us. I don`t think this entity lost interest in this planet after having built such incredible structures here and I doubt they grew tired of screwing and making babies ;D.

[freespirit]

The only question is, has this entity left the planet or is it occupying the seat of power today

My guess, that entity bred itself out of existence or just plain stopped breading.


What?! No more breading??? but that's the best way to pan fry walleye!! and pike, lol

NOW what am i gonna do??
;D

[Horn]

These players are merely the face of the conspiracy, IMO.

What is a conspiracy without a face, Obiwan?

Evelyn just needs more well programmed and well payed directors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4kZd4Roies

[dys]

Trinity, Egyptian mummies contain traces of cocaine and nicotine in their tissues. This proves the connection between Egypt and Mesoamerica.
Those who build the pyramids could certainly have more advanced aircraft than us. I don`t think this entity lost interest in this planet after having built such incredible structures here and I doubt they grew tired of screwing and making babies ;D.


As much as I like your insight (and I do), I'm onto your agenda. No more flying below the radar on this one. That's a warning.

dys

[Antonio]

Trinity, Egyptian mummies contain traces of cocaine and nicotine in their tissues. This proves the connection between Egypt and Mesoamerica.
Those who build the pyramids could certainly have more advanced aircraft than us. I don`t think this entity lost interest in this planet after having built such incredible structures here and I doubt they grew tired of screwing and making babies ;D.


As much as I like your insight (and I do), I'm onto your agenda. No more flying below the radar on this one. That's a warning.

dys


Dys, please don`t be so cryptic and tell me straight like a man what my agenda is. I really want to know. I`ve been shuffling thru life in a zomby-like opiated stupor and haven`t discovered what agenda to choose. I have a big time inferiority complex about this. Pretty please, sugar on top, tell me what it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANPsHKpti48

[Horn]

Trinity, Egyptian mummies contain traces of cocaine and nicotine in their tissues. This proves the connection between Egypt and Mesoamerica.

That was back before God inflated the planet, those lizards don't dig all the water around it these days.

If you apply G2Rad's carbon dating theory to the following video this all occurred in 40 days & nights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ

[Antonio]

Trinity, Egyptian mummies contain traces of cocaine and nicotine in their tissues. This proves the connection between Egypt and Mesoamerica.
Those who build the pyramids could certainly have more advanced aircraft than us. I don`t think this entity lost interest in this planet after having built such incredible structures here and I doubt they grew tired of screwing and making babies ;D.


As much as I like your insight (and I do), I'm onto your agenda. No more flying below the radar on this one. That's a warning.

dys


Dys, please don`t be so cryptic and tell me straight like a man what my agenda is. I really want to know. I`ve been shuffling thru life in a zomby-like opiated stupor and haven`t discovered what agenda to choose. I have a big time inferiority complex about this. Pretty please, sugar on top, tell me what it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANPsHKpti48


Dys, it`s the second time you are trying to fuck with me, the first time was when you said in the Zionism vs Nazism thread that I was a shill. You ran away without explaining in that thread, now you are adopting the same modus operandi. How many times are you planning to throw empty accusations and run away?

[dys]

Dys, it`s the second time you are trying to fuck with me, the first time was when you said in the Zionism vs Nazism thread that I was a shill. You ran away without explaining in that thread, now you are adopting the same modus operandi. How many times are you planning to throw empty accusations and run away?

I didn't run away last time, Antonio. I answered your question, just not the way you would have liked. I'll give you a little more this time, but this is all I can say:

I'm sorry, but I'm simply not going to tell you how I know you are a shill. It's nothing personal. If I reveal my method, you and other shills will try and correct your 'tells' (poker term). If that happens, it will be more difficult for myself and others to detect shills in the future.

As for this thread, I meant exactly what I said, I wasn't messing with you. I'm actually cool with most of what you do around here...just not the agenda.
I suspect that you are fishing to see if I was just running a bluff on you. Truth: I'd prefer you fold here, I really don't want to have show down. But not for the reasons that you suspect.

Keep the good insights and humor coming, I really do enjoy it.

dys

ps- Are you from NY by any chance? (That's just a guess/gut feeling. Could be wrong on that one)

[Trinity]

What?! No more breading??? but that's the best way to pan fry walleye!! and pike, lol

NOW what am i gonna do??


Ooops! Breeding, they did not breed enough of there own kind to continue on. As far as breading? my favorite is breaded flounder.

[Ponce]

People always knows who the devil is, even if dressed as a saint, because his tail and horns always are sticking out.........same with the Zionists, you can always see them for what they are and no matter how many Hail Mary's they say they will always be what they are.

[gunDriller]

this is such a huge subject.

personally, i think it would be more effectively discussed away from the prying & lying eyes of the Talmud worshippers.

i thought this summed it up, as well as can be done, in a few paragraphs (below).

it's a huge subject - worthy of books & encyclopedia's. but having a website like this where Free Gentiles can gather and express themselves freely is key.

better still - for 10 or more of our members to start "GIM's" of their own - and to moderate them according to their moral instincts.


"Let's be realistic. The Jews "won" - for the time being.

Look who runs the largest talent agency in Hollywood - Ari Emanuel.

Look who just had a movie made about the software they stole to start a multi-billion dollar company with - Facebook etc.

But the Gentiles outnumber them. That is one of our "Aces up the Sleeve".

We have many other Aces. But I wouldn't list them publicly.


Think I'm anti-Semitic ? I'm not but ... THANKS for the compliment. Because I am anti-criminal.

How we discuss this subject with our friends & family is key.

Fortunately, all the Talmud-worshippers can do there is stuff propaganda down their ears.

Also, for example, if my brother begins to listen to historical fact - and talk about it at the dinner table, his Christian Zionist wife might withhold sex. My brother needs to understand that that is not the end of the world.


Like the Last Air-bender*, Mother Nature and the laws of physics are on Our Side - the side of the Gentiles & non-criminal Jewish people.


* Yes, I know that movie was a fairy tale."

[Large Sarge]

I agree the jews won for the time being

I understand your reluctance to share insights & strategy.

I will just offer some thoughts on jews

1. they value cunning and cleverness over intellect

2. they value stealth and deceit over honesty and bravery

3. They are very cohesive group, especially during stress/crisis (they will goto to pretty great lengths to protect another jew), they also sow division, envy, and hatred amongst their collective enemies (through appointed leaders, masons, false clergy, etc)

[Large Sarge]

I think if you could get the flouride removed from the tap water, well it would go a long way to waking people up...

your only real strategy is to raise the intellect and awareness of the gentiles in the dark....

stopping the poisoning with flouride, the drugging from various "conditions" (AdHd, etc)

the big hangup is the knee jerk "you are an anti-semite"

all those holohoax films hollywood churns out, year after year..... collective, societal guilt trip

[Bigjon]

I think if you could get the flouride removed from the tap water, well it would go a long way to waking people up...

your only real strategy is to raise the intellect and awareness of the gentiles in the dark....

stopping the poisoning with flouride, the drugging from various "conditions" (AdHd, etc)

the big hangup is the knee jerk "you are an anti-semite"

all those holohoax films hollywood churns out, year after year..... collective, societal guilt trip




Reading from Mercola's website this morning we need to abolish the use of plastic anywhere in the food chain.
We need a ban on GMO's. We need to tell these University based Ag people to go pound sand, because they haven't a clue or worse they are deliberately poisoning us.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/03/25/even-bpafree-plastics-leach-endrocrinedisrupting-chemicals.aspx

http://gmo.mercola.com/

[gunDriller]

one of the books that has helped me understand how the Talmud-worshippers ended up in this position is a short book, "the_expulsion_of_the_jews_from_england_in_1290"

my copy is from
http://iamthewitness.com/

anybody know how to do a site-specific search for a file ?

the file is named -
the_expulsion_of_the_jews_from_england_in_1290.pdf

anyway, what happened was, King Edward and King Innocent were running England during the second half of the 1200's, the 13th Century. England was very Christian. They Jewish people in England were very clique-ish, and did one thing for a living - Usury.

That was outlawed during the time period 1250 to 1290. This left the Jewish people needing to find other forms of honest work.

BUT - what they ran into was a form of reverse nepotism. In England, for most trades, there were guilds. To get into the guild, it was a strike against you to be Jewish.

and they weren't much into manual labor.

so, basically, they were screwed.

they eventually got back into England under Cromwell in I think the 1600's.

but they learned their lesson. now we see Jewish nepotism everywhere -

* banking & finance
* medicine
* Silicon Valley high tech & venture capital
* Hollywood
* mainstream media
... etc. etc.

oh yeah - US government. 2/3 (maybe 3/4) of Obama's staff is Jewish. what's the matter, the affirmative action pResident couldn't find any qualified Gentiles ? Bullshit !

my guess is, what happened to the Jewish people in England in the 13th century occurred over and over again, and that's what the 1897 Zionism conference was about. that's what the Protocols are about. that's what PNAC is about.

i highly recommend that book, it is not "anti-Jewish" - it just clearly describes how the Jewish people lived in England in the 1200's.

as it turns out, "Affirmative Action", because it classifies by race and not religion/ ethnicity, has the net effect of discriminating against Caucasian gentiles. if most of the Caucasian-allocated slots in an organization are taken by Jews - doesn't leave much room for Caucasian gentiles, does it ?


that alone tells us about something to concentrate on, politically. do you see what i'm talking about ? i'd rather not spell it out because the Talmud-worshippers will be "on it" like flies on shit, if i do.

[Buddha]

Thanks for all the great contributions guys. To be honest, I don't even remember starting this thread. I was wasted last weekend, woke up the next day and didn't remember much of the night. I thought "Oh shit, I'd better check my AIM logs and GSUS!" Sure enough I had started this thread. I'm not doing much, minimal "money" in a regional bank, which isn't hard because I don't make much "money" anyway. :D Low debt. I still pay for things via debit card though, I need to get out of that habit and use cash. I buy alot of real foods, no fast, and a minimal of processed foods. I'll be damned but I lost all of my silver on the sea. I don't watch teevee and don't go to movies, so I don't support their hold on MSM. As DMac said there is not a whole lot that one can do other than this, nothing that I would talk about online at least. 8)