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Silver Shield
21st March 2011, 10:32 PM
http://dont-tread-on.me/nazism-vs-zionism/

I have been meaning to post these pics on the blog and of course I already got push back.

Take a look and please comment.

mrnhtbr2232
21st March 2011, 10:58 PM
Both portray national hubris - one is pride, the other is caste.

Cebu_4_2
21st March 2011, 11:06 PM
Needs Antonios reply.

Antonio
21st March 2011, 11:07 PM
The main diff is that Zionism is genuine while Nazism was fake. Nazism was created and financed by Jews in order to kill as many Whites as possible and also to kill "useless" non-Zionist Jews whose deaths gave the Zionists the carte blanche to create Israel and solidify control over the guilt-ridden goym.
Instead of searching for the differences/similarities between Zionism and Nazism, look for the hidden connection between them.

Gaillo
22nd March 2011, 12:17 AM
They are both rooted in collectivism... which is why I'll pass on both. When individual rights are protected, ALL rights are protected. When the rights of ANY man are sacrificed upon the alter of "the greater good", no man is ever again safe, and no true liberty can be obtained!

Neuro
22nd March 2011, 01:48 AM
They are both rooted in collectivism... which is why I'll pass on both. When individual rights are protected, ALL rights are protected. When the rights of ANY man are sacrificed upon the alter of "the greater good", no man is ever again safe, and no true liberty can be obtained!
The really really sad thing is that individual rights have to be protected by a collective will of the people. The collective will of the people only tend to do that after the collectivist projects have utterly failed. However one practical difference between national socialism in Germany and other collectivist approaches, as far as I understand was that income taxes were very low in Germany, at least during pre-war times...

Antonio
22nd March 2011, 01:58 AM
Everyone should do morning exercises.

hoarder
22nd March 2011, 06:48 AM
The really really sad thing is that individual rights have to be protected by a collective will of the people. Quoted for truth. I'm going to steal that line from you. Sorry.

JDRock
22nd March 2011, 07:33 AM
The main diff is that Zionism is genuine while Nazism was fake. Nazism was created and financed by Jews in order to kill as many Whites as possible and also to kill "useless" non-Zionist Jews whose deaths gave the Zionists the carte blanche to create Israel and solidify control over the guilt-ridden goym.
Instead of searching for the differences/similarities between Zionism and Nazism, look for the hidden connection between them.


An absolute home-run antonio.....you see through the disinfo and propaganda perfectly.

I would challenge anyone who doesnt agree here to research the root of the word nazi... how is it probable that arguably 1 of the most important political movements in modern history was named after NOTHING??...unless of course it was an abreviation of ASHKEnazi :taunt:

Awoke
22nd March 2011, 11:55 AM
The main diff is that Zionism is genuine while Nazism was fake. Nazism was created and financed by Jews in order to kill as many Whites as possible and also to kill "useless" non-Zionist Jews whose deaths gave the Zionists the carte blanche to create Israel and solidify control over the guilt-ridden goym.
Instead of searching for the differences/similarities between Zionism and Nazism, look for the hidden connection between them.


This probably the best post I have ever seen you make, and is definately signature-worthy if we weren't limited to 300 characters in our sigs.

MAGNES
22nd March 2011, 12:21 PM
This probably the best post I have ever seen you make, and is definately signature-worthy if we weren't limited to 300 characters in our sigs.




An absolute home-run antonio.....you see through the disinfo and propaganda perfectly.

I would challenge anyone who doesnt agree here to research the root of the word nazi... how is it probable that arguably 1 of the most important political movements in modern history was named after NOTHING??...unless of course it was an abreviation of ASHKEnazi :taunt:


Antonio contradicts himself all the time, how does what he just posted square with all his other dribble ?
He denies the mass murder of Europeans, Russians, Ukrainians, at the same time he makes statements
openly cheer leading for murder of some of those same Europeans, calling us goyim even and mocking us,
Antonio is a trickster and deliberately tries to muddy the waters. Maybe he is working on tricking people
to follow him here, lol , good luck. As Antonio says, " look for the hidden connection " we already have
exposed it and he never did, and he opposes us for it, and there are other issues too.

I have always been on the middle ground on a lot of these issues regarding Hitler and WWII.

Awoke
22nd March 2011, 01:32 PM
Oh I agree with everything you said there, Magnes, but what he posted was true, and the fact that he is a stalinist jew and (I suspect) a deciever doesn't make his summary any less-true.

Antonio
22nd March 2011, 02:00 PM
Oh I agree with everything you said there, Magnes, but what he posted was true, and the fact that he is a stalinist jew and (I suspect) a deciever doesn't make his summary any less-true.


Ok, make it easy for me and start a thread called Antonio`s Lies.

Awoke
22nd March 2011, 02:17 PM
You already know how I feel (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/what-is-your-definition-of-a-personal-attack-gaillo/msg179307/#msg179307) about you.

nunaem
22nd March 2011, 03:19 PM
Germans had it great until the allies declared war on them. They actually had a State that defended and promoted their own people as a whole. Imagine that.

Antonio
22nd March 2011, 04:12 PM
Germans had it great until the allies declared war on them. They actually had a State that defended and promoted their own people as a whole. Imagine that.


Here is the summary of German (goym) guilt. They were seduced by Jewish cannibals Hitler&Co into the most murderous greed ever. The greed blinded them to the fact that Russians,Poles, Serbs and other Slavs are genetically identical to them. So they went to kill them all and take their Lebensraum or so they thought. We all know how it ended.
Germans have shown the world that goym can be as sociopathic as Jews minus the Jewish brains.

I have lost half of my family in WW2. Most of the time I feel pity for Germans except when they start to revise the history and I`m not talking about the Holyhoax here.
The only way for Germans to start regaining their status as humans and not rabid greedy morons is to own up to the fact that they once sunk morally lower than any other nation ever.
Honesty is the best cure for any disease of body and soul, try it sometime, it works.

dys
22nd March 2011, 04:38 PM
They are both rooted in collectivism... which is why I'll pass on both. When individual rights are protected, ALL rights are protected. When the rights of ANY man are sacrificed upon the alter of "the greater good", no man is ever again safe, and no true liberty can be obtained!


Collectivism always has a moral relativism component to it. Greater good, lesser of two evils, ends justify the means.

dys

LuckyStrike
22nd March 2011, 04:58 PM
The main diff is that Zionism is genuine while Nazism was fake. Nazism was created and financed by Jews in order to kill as many Whites as possible and also to kill "useless" non-Zionist Jews whose deaths gave the Zionists the carte blanche to create Israel and solidify control over the guilt-ridden goym.
Instead of searching for the differences/similarities between Zionism and Nazism, look for the hidden connection between them.


Really?

hoarder, jdrock, and awoke thanked this kikes post?



I'm done.

MAGNES
22nd March 2011, 05:35 PM
Really?


They are not fans of Hitler that is why I suspect, WWII was devastating to European Man,
I am not a fan of Hitler either, very few on here are, I wouldn't thank Antonio,
I have seen his performance and posts change, many have seen this, they know
what he is about, he is very contradictory. Now he is appealing as a victim, lol .
That too I have challenged him on, considering some of the stuff he was posting.
How does this last post fit with all his other comments and past history, it doesn't,
at least we can be honest with each other and disagree, I would hope you agree
NB, he deliberately trolls you and GofD I have noticed in threads that matter,
that is why I have challenged him the way I have, mostly I just ignore him.
You will never get good coherent info from Antonio. He even mocks us as goyim,
even recently I remember seeing a post.

Read this NB.


You already know how I feel (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/what-is-your-definition-of-a-personal-attack-gaillo/msg179307/#msg179307) about you.



After his second post I posted this, he got a pass on the first, how does the OP in this thread
below and his responses fit with his posts in this thread above, don't waste your time trying to
figure him out, what more do people need to figure him out, he is an anti.





We should have have a Kraut Chutzpah subforum.


Here is some " Chutzpah " , you are a troll and you should stay clear of threads like this,
people here know your history and presence here is deliberately inflamatory, you are no
victim of anything, openly calling for murder on more than one forum, including above post
where you suggest they all commit suicide, you are no Russian either, you made that clear
long ago.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/hello!/

http://img251.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=60152_antoniothehater_122_460lo.jpg#

ximmy
22nd March 2011, 05:54 PM
http://dont-tread-on.me/nazism-vs-zionism/

I have been meaning to post these pics on the blog and of course I already got push back.

Take a look and please comment.


Silver Shield needs our support on his comments page above...
ximmy

gunDriller
22nd March 2011, 06:05 PM
recommended reading = "Adolf Hitler, Founder of Israel".

once he made his "let's send the Jews to the Desert" views known, very early in his career a man named "Trebitsch-Lincoln" showed up ... with an envelope full of cash for young Adolf.

incidentally, the book does not paint Hitler in a positive light, though the title may sound like it. it is one of the best books about World War 1 & 2 Germany i've ever read - it does a great job explaining the absolute chaos & confusion, the infighting among the Jews, the way Western European Jews looked down on Ashkenazi Jews, the way Ashkenazi Jews "got them back", the practice - by Jews - of removing teeth from the corpses of other Jews.

anyway, then during the 1930's, Hitler got MORE cash, from Jewish financiers.

and of course, as late as October 1942, Harriman was loaning WW2 Germany, via the Union Bank, managed by Prescott Bush, Harriman being a Rothschild affiliate.

great book !

iOWNme
22nd March 2011, 06:15 PM
The main diff is that Zionism is genuine while Nazism was fake. Nazism was created and financed by Jews in order to kill as many Whites as possible and also to kill "useless" non-Zionist Jews whose deaths gave the Zionists the carte blanche to create Israel and solidify control over the guilt-ridden goym.
Instead of searching for the differences/similarities between Zionism and Nazism, look for the hidden connection between them.


An absolute home-run antonio.....you see through the disinfo and propaganda perfectly.

I would challenge anyone who doesnt agree here to research the root of the word nazi... how is it probable that arguably 1 of the most important political movements in modern history was named after NOTHING??...unless of course it was an abreviation of ASHKEnazi :taunt:


Nazi means = National Socialism

"1930, from Ger. Nazi, abbreviation of German pronunciation of Nationalsozialist (based on earlier Ger. sozi, popular abbreviaton of "socialist"), from Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei "National Socialist German Workers' Party," led by Hitler from 1920."

iOWNme
22nd March 2011, 06:30 PM
Judging by the comments SS may have hurt some feelings with this one. I think SS will find that certain topics can cut into people.....


The truth is sharp, isnt it?

hoarder
22nd March 2011, 06:42 PM
"1930, from Ger. Nazi, abbreviation of German pronunciation of Nationalsozialist (based on earlier Ger. sozi, popular abbreviaton of "socialist"), from Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei "National Socialist German Workers' Party," led by Hitler from 1920."[/i]


I've read that before, but NS does not equal NZ. However, Ashkenazi minus Ashke equals NAZI.

In the end the only thing that's relevant is CUI BONO.

The end result reveals the original intention.

Dogman
22nd March 2011, 07:14 PM
Got to love the title. of this thread.

wn, jew hate, hell just hate for hate.

Punks!

hoarder
22nd March 2011, 07:17 PM
Got to love the title. of this thread.

wn, jew hate, hell just hate for hate.

Punks!
If the truth is hate, then hate is the truth. :o

Dogman
22nd March 2011, 07:29 PM
kool I M mZED OF THE SHIT PEOPLE,
FUCK YOU...

hoarder
22nd March 2011, 07:32 PM
kool I M mZED OF THE shit PEOPLE,
fuck YOU...
Drinking?????? ???

ximmy
22nd March 2011, 07:34 PM
kool I M mZED OF THE shit PEOPLE,
fuck YOU...


Dude...

Where is the Picard with hand on face icon?

Gaillo
22nd March 2011, 08:06 PM
Got to love the title. of this thread.

wn, jew hate, hell just hate for hate.

Punks!



kool I M mZED OF THE shit PEOPLE,
fuck YOU...

What a surprise... another wierd-ass drunken attack on us by Goldies! ::)

See you next month... this is your THIRD ban for this crap, next time it'll be permanent. Think about it, buddy... you're a good member here when you're off the sauce - perhaps drinking and posting just aren't a good combination for you?

-Gaillo

gunDriller
22nd March 2011, 08:10 PM
kool I M mZED OF THE shit PEOPLE,
fuck YOU...


Dude...

Where is the Picard with hand on face icon?


one hand or 2 ?

http://defaultprime.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/picard-no-facepalm-618x494.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr322/CAC_003/facepalm1.jpg




kool I M mZED OF THE shit PEOPLE


translation ?

Antonio
22nd March 2011, 08:20 PM
The main diff is that Zionism is genuine while Nazism was fake. Nazism was created and financed by Jews in order to kill as many Whites as possible and also to kill "useless" non-Zionist Jews whose deaths gave the Zionists the carte blanche to create Israel and solidify control over the guilt-ridden goym.
Instead of searching for the differences/similarities between Zionism and Nazism, look for the hidden connection between them.


Really?

hoarder, jdrock, and awoke thanked this kikes post?



I'm done.


Wait, I ain`t done yet. You`ll need a lot of ad hominem to "debate" me when I start talking about Patton, the greatest back-stabbing coward who ever walked the planet and our Anglo-American WW2 "Allies".

osoab
22nd March 2011, 08:36 PM
kool I M mZED OF THE shit PEOPLE,
fuck YOU...


Dude...

Where is the Picard with hand on face icon?


one hand or 2 ?

http://defaultprime.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/picard-no-facepalm-618x494.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr322/CAC_003/facepalm1.jpg




kool I M mZED OF THE shit PEOPLE


translation ?


There is also this double face palm.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQggWW1ua629juJp1S1X5vTjgDf3AKAo GUFSIsBj0YuDJY0LhHl&t=1

Antonio
22nd March 2011, 08:42 PM
They are both rooted in collectivism... which is why I'll pass on both. When individual rights are protected, ALL rights are protected. When the rights of ANY man are sacrificed upon the alter of "the greater good", no man is ever again safe, and no true liberty can be obtained!


Yes but how would you suggest we work on nuclear reactors in meltdown?

Gaillo
22nd March 2011, 08:48 PM
They are both rooted in collectivism... which is why I'll pass on both. When individual rights are protected, ALL rights are protected. When the rights of ANY man are sacrificed upon the alter of "the greater good", no man is ever again safe, and no true liberty can be obtained!


Yes but how would you suggest we work on nuclear reactors in meltdown?


Very carefully. ;)

General of Darkness
22nd March 2011, 09:03 PM
SS you've become much more suspect to me these days because you're covering for the jews in every thread, and then trying to compare zionism and nazis. Seriously? At the end of the day, I like being around my own race, for better or worse. ;D

nunaem
22nd March 2011, 10:57 PM
When individual rights are protected, ALL rights are protected. When the rights of ANY man are sacrificed upon the alter of "the greater good", no man is ever again safe, and no true liberty can be obtained!


When you view collectivism and individualism as diametrically opposed and at war, it only makes sense to treat individualists individually. Collectivists are no longer individuals in a certain sense, they are gears in a machine.

Imagine fighting a war as a pure individualist. You treat each and every soldier as an individual who has done you no harm, you don't even differentiate between your own soldiers and enemies. You wait until they do you harm first until you retaliate against them individually.
Now imagine fighting a war as a collectivist, or as how wars are always fought. You strike enemy soldiers before they strike you, because you understand that they are part of a cause that is out to destroy you.
It goes without saying which method is more effective.

If individualists want to get anywhere they need to realize they are part of, dare I say, a collective of individualists that not everyone is a member of. Universal individualism is blindness. Treating outsiders kindly when they do not return the favor is suicide.

Antonio
22nd March 2011, 11:13 PM
Extreme individualism is rooted in infantile tendencies. Children cannot understand their responsibility to other humans.
God forbid a nuke station melts here in USA. Accidents like this require societies to adapt the Stalinist model overnight.
It`s better to gradually detox from individualism because an abrupt withdrawal from this addiction is unimaginable.
A catastrophe requiring the Stalinist model to deal with it is inevitable, it can be a natural or man-made disaster, a war or an economic meltdown.

dys
22nd March 2011, 11:25 PM
Extreme individualism is rooted in infantile tendencies. Children cannot understand their responsibility to other humans.
God forbid a nuke station melts here in USA. Accidents like this require societies to adapt the Stalinist model overnight.
It`s better to gradually detox from individualism because an abrupt withdrawal from this addiction is unimaginable.
A catastrophe requiring the Stalinist model to deal with it is inevitable, it can be a natural or man-made disaster, a war or an economic meltdown.


You know, my man, I wanted to believe you were sincere. I really did. You are bright, funny, and as someone else said you have a better understanding of the human condition than most of us. So I was really hoping against hope on this one. But now I know that you are not. I guess I should at least thank you for removing all doubt. This post is a wrap. You should know that you are in my top 3 favorite shills of all time, it's a tough list to crack.

dys

dys
22nd March 2011, 11:34 PM
You guys always play the war card, so predictable.

dys



When you view collectivism and individualism as diametrically opposed and at war, it only makes sense to treat individualists individually. Collectivists are no longer individuals in a certain sense, they are gears in a machine.

Imagine fighting a war as a pure individualist. You treat each and every soldier as an individual who has done you no harm, you don't even differentiate between your own soldiers and enemies. You wait until they do you harm first until you retaliate against them individually.
Now imagine fighting a war as a collectivist, or as how wars are always fought. You strike enemy soldiers before they strike you, because you understand that they are part of a cause that is out to destroy you.
It goes without saying which method is more effective.

If individualists want to get anywhere they need to realize they are part of, dare I say, a collective of individualists that not everyone is a member of. Universal individualism is blindness. Treating outsiders kindly when they do not return the favor is suicide.

vacuum
22nd March 2011, 11:38 PM
I thought it was going to be some article arguing some type of thesis, but was pleasantly surprised when it was only pictures.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
22nd March 2011, 11:38 PM
Ten questions to the Zionists
by Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl ZT"L
Dean of Nitra Yeshiva

Written in 1948 and republished many times since then


1. IS IT TRUE that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that:
a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and
b) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and
c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily.

2. IS IT TRUE that the Zionist leaders in Switzerland and Turkey received this offer with the clear understanding that the exclusion of Palestine as a destination for the deportees was based on an agreement between the Gestapo and the Mufti.

3. IS IT TRUE that the answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments:
a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees.
b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a "Jewish State" at the end of the war.
c) No ransom will be paid

4. IS IT TRUE that this response to the Gestapo's offer was made with the full knowledge that the alternative to this offer was the gas chamber.

5. IS IT TRUE that in 1944, at the time of the Hungarian deportations, a similar offer was made, whereby all Hungarian Jewry could be saved.

6. IS IT TRUE that the same Zionist hierarchy again refused this offer (after the gas chambers had already taken a toll of millions).

7. IS IT TRUE that during the height of the killings in the war, 270 Members of the British Parliament proposed to evacuate 500,000 Jews from Europe, and resettle them in British colonies, as a part of diplomatic negotiations with Germany.

8. IS IT TRUE that this offer was rejected by the Zionist leaders with the observation "Only to Palestine!"

9. IS IT TRUE that the British government granted visas to 300 rabbis and their families to the Colony of Mauritius, with passage for the evacuees through Turkey. The "Jewish Agency" leaders sabotaged this plan with the observation that the plan was disloyal to Palestine, and the 300 rabbis and their families should be gassed.

10. IS IT TRUE that during the course of the negotiations mentioned above, Chaim Weitzman, the first "Jewish statesman" stated: "The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important". Weitzman's cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation "One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe".

Antonio
22nd March 2011, 11:41 PM
Extreme individualism is rooted in infantile tendencies. Children cannot understand their responsibility to other humans.
God forbid a nuke station melts here in USA. Accidents like this require societies to adapt the Stalinist model overnight.
It`s better to gradually detox from individualism because an abrupt withdrawal from this addiction is unimaginable.
A catastrophe requiring the Stalinist model to deal with it is inevitable, it can be a natural or man-made disaster, a war or an economic meltdown.


You know, my man, I wanted to believe you were sincere. I really did. You are bright, funny, and as someone else said you have a better understanding of the human condition than most of us. So I was really hoping against hope on this one. But now I know that you are not. I guess I should at least thank you for removing all doubt. This post is a wrap. You should know that you are in my top 3 favorite shills of all time, it's a tough list to crack.

dys


I don`t aspire to understand the human condition better than most of you. I have eaten my pound of shit in this life, I have met people who`ve eaten tons of it and lived to tell about it. Who do you think pays me, since you are accusing me of being a shill?

dys
22nd March 2011, 11:52 PM
I don`t aspire to understand the human condition better than most of you. I have eaten my pound of shit in this life, I have met people who`ve eaten tons of it and lived to tell about it. Who do you think pays me, since you are accusing me of being a shill?



I don't know but I have you dead to rights. It's weird, when I first started message forums I thought shills were all conniving globalist peodephiles. The truth is so much different. I actually made friends with one shill, he still emails me now and then. He is a good man who I suspect is very torn about his profession and is having a hard time. I wish him the best. As for you, you are one of the better ones out there (meaning from a professional standpoint), but the devil is in the details as they say.
I used to be in the game of going after shills and making it tough on them, but I've changed my tune over the years. I'm a Christian. As men and women we are all in this together. I know who the real enemy is, and it isn't you.

dys

Antonio
22nd March 2011, 11:57 PM
I don`t aspire to understand the human condition better than most of you. I have eaten my pound of shit in this life, I have met people who`ve eaten tons of it and lived to tell about it. Who do you think pays me, since you are accusing me of being a shill?



I don't know but I have you dead to rights. It's weird, when I first started message forums I thought shills were all conniving globalist peodephiles. The truth is so much different. I actually made friends with one shill, he still emails me now and then. He is a good man who I suspect is very torn about his profession and is having a hard time. I wish him the best. As for you, you are one of the better ones out there (meaning from a professional standpoint), but the devil is in the details as they say.
I used to be in the game of going after shills and making it tough on them, but I've changed my tune over the years. I'm a Christian. As men and women we are all in this together. I know who the real enemy is, and it isn't you.

dys



But specifically, what particular lies of mine bothered you so badly in that post? How the fuck are you gonna face a nuclear meltdown with your ideology?
It`s hard enough for us.
Also, who are your other 2 favorite shills if I am the 3d?
PS. I`m not trying to pick a fight with you. I`m often accused of being a troll but rarely a shill. I`m genuinely interested in what entity in your opinion I`m shilling for.

Awoke
23rd March 2011, 05:35 AM
Really?

hoarder, jdrock, and awoke thanked this kikes post?



I'm done.


Rebel1, look at it again.



The main diff is that Zionism is genuine while Nazism was fake.

True



Nazism was created and financed by Jews in order to kill as many Whites as possible

True



and also to kill "useless" non-Zionist Jews whose deaths gave the Zionists the carte blanche to create Israel and solidify control over the guilt-ridden goym.

True



Instead of searching for the differences/similarities between Zionism and Nazism, look for the hidden connection between them.


Meh


Why would you be surprised to see us thank occams post? I don't discriminate when it comes to being honest about who I think posts the truth, and in this (rare) case, occam posted the truth.

hoarder
23rd March 2011, 07:10 AM
You guys always play the war card, so predictable.

dysWar is part of life. Why build a political philosophy that assumes otherwise.

Here is the logical sequence of things:
1) Recognise reality for what it is.
2) Arrive at opinion about which ideology is best.

It simply does not work if you try to reverse the sequence because it renders you incapable of #1.

dys
23rd March 2011, 08:25 AM
Here is the logical sequence of things:
1) Recognise reality for what it is.
2) Arrive at opinion about which ideology is best.

It simply does not work if you try to reverse the sequence because it renders you incapable of #1.


If war is a way of life (and I agree with you that it is), I submit to you that collectivism is one of the worst ideologies to cope with the reality of war. Human nature is such that people tend to be enthusiastic about defending what is theirs (read: private property) and unenthusiastic about defending what doesn't belong to them.

dys

nunaem
23rd March 2011, 08:56 AM
Here is the logical sequence of things:
1) Recognise reality for what it is.
2) Arrive at opinion about which ideology is best.

It simply does not work if you try to reverse the sequence because it renders you incapable of #1.


If war is a way of life (and I agree with you that it is), I submit to you that collectivism is one of the worst ideologies to cope with the reality of war. Human nature is such that people tend to be enthusiastic about defending what is theirs (read: private property) and unenthusiastic about defending what doesn't belong to them.

dys


Once the enemy is threatening your individual private property, it is too late.

hoarder
23rd March 2011, 08:58 AM
If war is a way of life (and I agree with you that it is), I submit to you that collectivism is one of the worst ideologies to cope with the reality of war. Human nature is such that people tend to be enthusiastic about defending what is theirs (read: private property) and unenthusiastic about defending what doesn't belong to them.

dys
I didn't say war was a way of life, war is a fact of life.
Property can factor in a number of ways.
If you have none, and there is war, collectivism is an asset. (nothing to lose, much to gain)
If you have owned/earned property, individualism may guarantee that you lost that property to a (collective) group of thugs.

If your property is derived by collectively stealing it from others, collectivism is an asset(strategically, not morally speaking).
Don't get me wrong, I hate communism and I live alone in the mountains. I'm as individualistic as it gets. But I have sense enough to know I cannot compete against groups. Such is the real world.

Antonio
23rd March 2011, 12:52 PM
Instead of searching for the differences/similarities between Zionism and Nazism, look for the hidden connection between them.


Meh


Why would you be surprised to see us thank occams post? I don't discriminate when it comes to being honest about who I think posts the truth, and in this (rare) case, occam posted the truth.



What is this meh supposed to mean? Like I said, if I "rarely" post truth, feel free to start a thread about my lies. I give you carte blanche to use any ad hominems you want, I don`t give half a shit about them. Nordicberserker (scary nickname, isn`t it, much scarier than Antonio) called me a kike and wasn`t banned for it. I don`t support banning people for ad hominems so it`s totally ok with me. Having to use ad hominems is a laughable loss of any serious debate so go right ahead. People are full of testosterone here on GSUS, some use ad hominems when debating geopolitics, others threaten to poison cats and have ninja avatars. Shit, I gotta ask my doc to write a script for a testosterone patch, my natural levels must be falling...

solid
23rd March 2011, 01:06 PM
shit, I gotta ask my doc to write a script for a testosterone patch, my natural levels must be falling...


Antonio, this thread may help you. ;D

http://gold-silver.us/forum/health-and-fitness/how-to-increase-testosterone-naturally/

Neuro
23rd March 2011, 01:17 PM
One thing to consider though. Zionism may be fake too. It may just be an instrument of the Rothschilds to have a place to run to when it gets to hot under their feet, later Israel may just be thrown under the truck in their quest for world domination....

Awoke
23rd March 2011, 01:20 PM
Occam, I don't feel like rehashing everything I've ever said to you.

I think you're a liar because I don't believe anything you have ever said about your personal life, and I think you are putting on a disguise here. For shit's sake, you already know how I feel, so quit insisting that I re-type everything.



For future reference, "meh" is just an expression of aloofness, oftentimes coupled with an unknowing shoulder shrug. It usually means that someone doesn't really care about something, or that the person thinks something was "average" or less than average.
(ie: The last superman movie was pretty meh)

In this case, "meh" meant "Whatever. Nazism and Zionism are both jewish concepts and will not garner my future research time"

Regarding ad hominem attacks (Whatever that means) I try to stay away from that stuff. I will call a stalinist and stalinist, but I don't typically run around firing from the hip with insults and name-throwing.

DMac
23rd March 2011, 01:28 PM
One thing to consider though. Zionism may be fake too. It may just be an instrument of the Rothschilds to have a place to run to when it gets to hot under their feet, later Israel may just be thrown under the truck in their quest for world domination....


I entertain that thought as potential as well Neuro. At some point in the future, Israel could get thrown under a bus by them.

Antonio
23rd March 2011, 01:32 PM
One thing to consider though. Zionism may be fake too. It may just be an instrument of the Rothschilds to have a place to run to when it gets to hot under their feet, later Israel may just be thrown under the truck in their quest for world domination....

This is very astute and may very well be the truth. We can only wait and see if definite proof of this comes out in our lifetimes, so far everything looks legit. Jews have dominated the planet way before the word "Zionism" was invented.

osoab
23rd March 2011, 01:47 PM
One thing to consider though. Zionism may be fake too. It may just be an instrument of the Rothschilds to have a place to run to when it gets to hot under their feet, later Israel may just be thrown under the truck in their quest for world domination....


I entertain that thought as potential as well Neuro. At some point in the future, Israel could get thrown under a bus by them.


I caught this pices over @ Makow (http://www.henrymakow.com/a_brief_review_of_farrells_bab.html) a few days ago. Here is another link.
Rothchilds are Babylonian? Interesting take.

A Brief Review of Farrell's "Babylon's Banksters" (http://hardons-blog.blogspot.com/2011/03/brief-review-of-farrells-babylons.html)



"Indeed, the "Jewish" people - historically known as Israelites or Hebrews, have been just as much victimized and plundered by this PRIVATE CARTEL that portends to hijack national destiny and their relative currencies, supplanting them with a FIAT INTEREST BEARING CURRENCY, as any other nation in the world."

[Editor's Note: It appears the Jews learned fiat banking in Babylon at the same time as they learned the Cabala. "Nobody owns a scam," the argument goes. Fiat banking is Babylonian.

I think the Rothschild syndicate has gone a long way to prove that untrue. Nonetheless I have enormous respect for Eliezer, who has a keen sense of the dire implications of currency produced as a private debt ]


by "Eliezer"

This is not a "Zionist" System, but as described in Babylon's Banksters: The Alchemy of Deep Physics, High Finance and Ancient Religion, by Joseph Farrell, it is a SYSTEM of displacing national currencies with the CURRENCY of a PRIVATE BANKING CARTEL, which finds its genesis in BABYLON and the bloodline of NIMROD.

Interestingly, Farrell links the Rothschild Banking Dynasty to NIMROD. The war is being conducted in a Romanish fashion, wherein siege walls, physical, spiritual, psychological and metaphoric, are formed and erected to surround & isolate an intended target.

All nations involved in the assault upon Libya, as an example, will most certainly be enmeshed in the BABYLONIAN SYSTEM of DEBT BASED FIAT CURRENCY, just as the American people are today through the current FEDERAL RESERVE - an ARM of the PRIVATELY held & controlled INTERNATIONAL BANKING CARTEL.

The war, both in historical & conventional terms, has always been between the PRIVATE and debasing influence of the FIAT CURRENCY of the BANKSTERS, and the public national currency and will of the people, issued by their elected representatives and institutions.

As Farrell documents, this is ultimately why both Lincoln AND JFK were assassinated. So, Rothschild is not "Jewish" or "Zionist" per se,' but Babylonian and of the lineage of NIMROD more precisely.

Indeed, Farrell also reveals, "Alphonse Mayer Rothschild and Clarice Sebag-Montefiore had a son, born in 1922, to whom they gave the peculiarly Jewish-Christian-"Babylonian" (actually "Biblical," because there were neither "Jews" nor "Christians" known as such in that era) name of Albert Anselm Salomon Nimrod Rothschild (which means "red shield")."

This ubiquitous SYSTEM of PRIVATE INTEREST BEARING or DEBT based CURRENCY - extracting a flow of current or "currency" from labor accrues a determinant political and economic power to the few who comprise the bloodlines of this PRIVATE BANKING CARTEL.

This CARTEL is essentially seeking GLOBAL HEGEMONY. And this is why it is an enemy to the public currency and moral conscience of all people's, and more specifically, the constitutional republic of the united states.

Indeed, the "Jewish" people - historically known as Israelites or Hebrews, have been just as much victimized and plundered by this PRIVATE CARTEL that portends to hijack national destiny and their relative currencies, supplanting them with a FIAT INTEREST BEARING CURRENCY, as any other nation in the world.

Essentially, the real struggle throughout history, has been between the BABYLONIAN BANKSTERS and the people. The incident in the Jerusalem Temple, in which Jesus is reported to have over-turned the tables of the money-changers, accusing them of turning God's sanctuary into a den of vipers and thieves, is a poignant reminder of how a people's currency can be debased and displaced with that of a FIAT SPECIES, that of BABYLON'S BANKSTER''S.

Neuro
23rd March 2011, 01:51 PM
One thing to consider though. Zionism may be fake too. It may just be an instrument of the Rothschilds to have a place to run to when it gets to hot under their feet, later Israel may just be thrown under the truck in their quest for world domination....

This is very astute and may very well be the truth. We can only wait and see if definite proof of this comes out in our lifetimes, so far everything looks legit. Jews have dominated the planet way before the word "Zionism" was invented.

The bankers don't live in Israel, unless they are publicly disgraced... Evelyn de Rothschild has a few million acres of organic farms in India if I am not mistaken.

Awoke
23rd March 2011, 01:53 PM
"You who say you are jews and are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan"

I have said since I discovered the conspiracy, that this conspiracy is thousands of years old, stretching from the days of babylon. (GIM)

Link 1 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/do-you-believe-that-the-devil-exists-how-about-satan/msg144975/?topicseen#msg144975)
Link 2 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/the-ground-zero-mosque-proposed-by-the-cordoba-initiative-(focus-on-the-name)/msg98289/?topicseen#msg98289)

MAGNES
23rd March 2011, 02:27 PM
http://dont-tread-on.me/nazism-vs-zionism/

I have been meaning to post these pics on the blog and of course I already got push back.

Take a look and please comment.


Who here would argue that WWII was not a disaster for the people and tens millions died.

I posted this on gim long ago.

The " allies " were mass murderers too.

Antonio
23rd March 2011, 02:45 PM
http://dont-tread-on.me/nazism-vs-zionism/

I have been meaning to post these pics on the blog and of course I already got push back.

Take a look and please comment.


Who here would argue that WWII was not a disaster for the people and tens millions died.

I posted this on gim long ago, lol .

The " allies " were mass murderers too.


Allies is a vague word. During WW2 Anglo-American individualists who financed Hitler before the war, pretended to join up with Russian collectivists in order to look good after Russian WW2 victory. It was them who dropped bombs on German civilians, not us.
You see, individualists cannot fight armed people because it is dangerous to do so. So, they have killed either black and brown people for their resources or unarmed whites as in Germany. Today they have their ass handed back to them by collectivist, piss-poor and outgunned Muslims.
You have to be more specific about what Allies you are talking about...

MAGNES
23rd March 2011, 06:36 PM
You have to be more specific about what Allies you are talking about...


Antonio, I ain't here to bust your balls all the time, you trolled 4 threads in a row,
normally I ignore you, you know that, you know I know the score, the question
here is why are you not consistent, you cannot believe everything you post
because of all the contradictions, what did you just tell me, ? , you want me
to agree with you ? Why you posting the controversial you posting ? Even
recently, like 2 days ago, ? , you can't claim to be a good guy not against
civilians here and then openly talk about them killing themselves. Who are
the allies, you notice, I put it in quotation marks, Rothchild and the Jews
that owned the FED are not Anglo Saxon, their tools were. They owned
IG Farben and Auschwitz outright, it was not an "extermination" camp.

I can post John Loftus here so you can freak out on him, why would you
when he outs the top and is pro Jewish and outs real crimes against Jews,
covers Thyssen, Hitlers Steel and Industrial giant, you claim your family is
victims, lol, nothing you do and say makes sense, you are different people.
Someone may have taken my comments as heartless, but your past history
and comments betray you, not even Irving says Jews were not murdered and
he too is blacklisted, you hate this history because you don't want people
to know that the Jews that were murdered, it was payback for the mass murder
committed by the Communists, the Germans were viewed as liberators in
those areas , like Ukraine and Belarus, Loftus is blacklisted for this too.
There is no gas chambers in his book either, lol .

Antonio
23rd March 2011, 06:46 PM
Magnes, Loftus is a hook-nosed kike pretending to be Irish, same as Elvis Costello and Bruce Springsteen (you gotta love those Irish kikes, huge fuckin shnozzels on them).
This is all I need to know about him. I couldn`t possibly find time to read a known crypto.

MAGNES
23rd March 2011, 07:47 PM
Magnes, Loftus is a hook-nosed kike pretending to be Irish, same as Elvis Costello and Bruce Springsteen (you gotta love those Irish kikes, huge fuckin shnozzels on them).
This is all I need to know about him. I couldn`t possibly find time to read a known crypto.


Case closed !