BRIC nations call for immediate ceasefire in Libya

[DMac]

This is troubling news, BRIC is beginning to flex as it is an alliance against NATO, IMO.

Russia, China call for immediate ceasefire in Libya (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Russia-China-call-for-immediate-ceasefire-in-Libya/articleshow/7762475.cms)


BEIJING/MOSCOW: China and Russia have called for an immediate ceasefire in Libya expressing concern over civilian casualties in the military strikes by allied forces in areas controlled by Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.

"China noticed reports of civilian casualties from the multinational military action against Libya and is very concerned with this," Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu said at a news briefing.

"We urge (the sides) to do everything to end the violence," Russia defence minister Anatoly Serdyukov told visiting US Defence Secretary Robert Gates after closed-door talks with him. He added that Moscow believed Libyan civilians had been killed in the Western air strikes.

Both the countries, along with India, Brazil, and South Africa, abstained from last week's UN Security Council vote approving international military involvement in Libya, which aims to protect civilians against Muammar Gaddafi's forces.

China is opposed to "abuse of force causing more civilian casualties".

According to reports from Libya at least 64 Libyans had been killed and 150 others wounded by the missiles and bombs fired by the foreign forces over the weekend.

The majority of Libya's civil airports and seaports were destroyed.

"The UN resolution on no-fly zone over Libya aimed to protect civilians. We oppose abuse of force causing more civilian casualties and more serious humanitarian disasters," said Jiang.

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China, India Demand Immediate Cease-Fire in Libya (http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=126513)


China and India have called for an immediate end of the operation in Libya where US and European nations launched punishing airstrikes to enforce a U.N. no-fly zone.

China wants an immediate cease-fire and talks to end the violence, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu declared Tuesday, as cited by the Canadian press.

"We oppose the use of force that could result in more civilian casualties and a humanitarian crisis," she said.

"We view with grave concern the ongoing violence, strikes and deteriorating humanitarian situation in Libya. We regret the air strikes that are taking place," Indian Foreign Minister stated, according to Xinhua.

China and India, along with Brazil, Russia, and South Africa (BRIC nations), plus Germany abstained from a voting last Thursday on the UN Security Council's 1973 resolution authorizing the international community to impose a no-fly zone over Libya.


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Brazil calls for ceasefire in Libya (http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFTRE72L0YY20110322)

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SAO PAULO (Reuters) - The Brazilian government called late on Monday for a cease-fire in Libya, where air attacks by the United States and its allies sought to stop the advance of Muammar Gaddafi's forces on rebel-held towns.

[Neuro]

I'll post this one here also!:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-22/allies-control-of-airspace-in-libya-puts-qaddafi-s-ground-forces-at-risk.html

Allied forces expanded their air campaign over Libya to thwart Muammar Qaddafi’s fighters and enable rebels to regain control of cities, as leaders debated who should be in overall control of the operation.

Aerial strikes enabled rebel forces to push out from their eastern stronghold of Benghazi as the United States Africa Command indicated that an F-15E jet crashed because of technical difficulties. At the same time, Norway is keeping its fighters grounded until there is clarity on the chain of command as France, the U.K. and allies including Turkey and the Arab states struggle to agree on whether NATO should guide the operation.

[DMac]

From the Reuter's link:


Last week, Brazil, China, India, Germany and Russia abstained from passing a U.N. Security Council resolution authorizing the use of force to impose a no-fly zone in Libya.

I'm wondering if we are witnessing a renewed German-Russian alliance?

(PDF Link)
Germany and Russia: A Special Relationship (http://www.twq.com/07spring/docs/07spring_rahr.pdf)

Stratfor analysis, June 2010
Germany and Russia Move Closer (http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20100621_germany_and_russia_move_closer)

(Link contains brackets so it does not work with our forum software, highlight the link and paste into your browser to read the full article)
Medvedev Moots Russia-Germany “Modernization Alliance”
http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=36641

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...it is Russian ties with Germany that really matter for Medvedev’s modernization-focused foreign policy, and this country was mentioned first in the list of potential allies exactly for this reason (Ekspert, RBC Daily, July 15). Certainly, “special relations” with Germany were cultivated during Vladimir Putin’s presidency, when the main theme was the export of natural gas and Gazprom was its key agent. Medvedev, however, is trying to re-shape relations around the agenda of investing in Russia’s industrial revival, consequently the main celebrity in Yekaterinburg was Siemens (Kommersant, July 16).

[JDRock]

..any blue-pill fools who still believe these revolutions are not top down controlled -designed -called plays, your reasons evaporated when the so called "allies" :oo--> began helping the rebels.

[DMac]

I'll post this one here also!:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-22/allies-control-of-airspace-in-libya-puts-qaddafi-s-ground-forces-at-risk.html

Allied forces expanded their air campaign over Libya to thwart Muammar Qaddafi’s fighters and enable rebels to regain control of cities, as leaders debated who should be in overall control of the operation.

Aerial strikes enabled rebel forces to push out from their eastern stronghold of Benghazi as the United States Africa Command indicated that an F-15E jet crashed because of technical difficulties. At the same time, Norway is keeping its fighters grounded until there is clarity on the chain of command as France, the U.K. and allies including Turkey and the Arab states struggle to agree on whether NATO should guide the operation.




That article gives me the impression we are being setup for NATO to take over operations in Libya.


I found this on the BBC site, live feed:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12776418



0837: The BBC's Christian Fraser in Paris reports: "The French are fiercely proud of the role they played this weekend in saving the people of Benghazi. President Nicolas Sarkozy has looked decisive, far more assured than he did during the crisis in Tunisia. But at time it is his mercurial diplomatic style that has come to the fore. He is criticised in some quarters this morning for being too impulsive. The New York Times reports the US and UK were frustrated by his decision to launch unilaterally the first attacks on Libya without fully informing his allies. On Saturday, before the leaders had left the summit at the Elysee Palace, President Sarkozy hurried to a press conference to announce to the world that French planes were already over Libya, and engaging Col Gaddafi's forces. It is also clear that despite pressure from the US and the UK, President Sarkozy has objected strongly to Nato taking the lead. There are even reports the French and German ambassadors to Nato walked out of a meeting last week after criticism from the Nato secretary general."


Interesting...

Italy repeats call for NATO control of Libya mission (http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/03/22/idINIndia-55779520110322?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews)

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(Reuters) - Italy repeated its demand on Tuesday that military operations against Libya be placed under a joint NATO command, underlining the growing differences in the anti-Gaddafi coalition.

[DMac]

It seems Turkey is the NATO member that has cast the vote to not have NATO run operations in Libya, at least for now:

Libya strategy divides military coalition (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/03/21/libya-coalition-discord.html)

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Discord erupted Monday in Europe over whether the military operation in Libya should be controlled by NATO, after Turkey blocked the alliance's participation while Italy issued a veiled threat to withdraw the use of its bases unless the alliance was put in charge.

Germany also questioned the wisdom of the operation, and Russia's Vladimir Putin railed against the UN-backed airstrikes mounted so far against Moammar Gadhafi's force by Britain, France and the United States outside of their NATO roles.

[Awoke]

Since when does China take issue with Military killing civilians?
Since when does Russia, for that matter?

This is a set up, as JDRock stated.

Things are accelerating.

[Neuro]

It seems Turkey is the NATO member that has cast the vote to not have NATO run operations in Libya, at least for now:

Libya strategy divides military coalition (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/03/21/libya-coalition-discord.html)

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Discord erupted Monday in Europe over whether the military operation in Libya should be controlled by NATO, after Turkey blocked the alliance's participation while Italy issued a veiled threat to withdraw the use of its bases unless the alliance was put in charge.

Germany also questioned the wisdom of the operation, and Russia's Vladimir Putin railed against the UN-backed airstrikes mounted so far against Moammar Gadhafi's force by Britain, France and the United States outside of their NATO roles.

Yes, I wonder whether Turkey will remain a NATO member for long... Anyway the UN resolution was not a Carte Blanche for aerial bombing of any Libyan targets, which the Anglo-Franco sphere lead coalition, seems to take it for. This has escalated very quickly into all out war on Libya, instead of upholding a no fly zone...

[DMac]

It seems Turkey is the NATO member that has cast the vote to not have NATO run operations in Libya, at least for now:

Libya strategy divides military coalition (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/03/21/libya-coalition-discord.html)

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Discord erupted Monday in Europe over whether the military operation in Libya should be controlled by NATO, after Turkey blocked the alliance's participation while Italy issued a veiled threat to withdraw the use of its bases unless the alliance was put in charge.

Germany also questioned the wisdom of the operation, and Russia's Vladimir Putin railed against the UN-backed airstrikes mounted so far against Moammar Gadhafi's force by Britain, France and the United States outside of their NATO roles.

Yes, I wonder whether Turkey will remain a NATO member for long... Anyway the UN resolution was not a Carte Blanche for aerial bombing of any Libyan targets, which the Anglo-Franco sphere lead coalition, seems to take it for. This has escalated very quickly into all out war on Libya, instead of upholding a no fly zone...


Agreed on the Turkish question. The Neocons don't want Turkey in NATO anymore, from what I recall:
http://www.aei.org/speech/100160


I disagree with you on the carte-blanche point.. A no-fly zone gives the aggressor the ability to take out any and all targets that can be threatening to aircraft - that includes airports and any possible SAM sites.

Using creative intelligence I'd assume any and all sites could be hit under this pretext (for better or worse :( )

Details to the Libyan no fly zone:
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2011/ss_military0273_03_14.asp

[Spectrism]

The field is being set up with opposing forces. This whole adventure into Libya was pushed through Obama so that the US would be IN THE WRONG and would have to face an equal opposing coalition. By putting Amerika into a morally WRONG position, the battle becomes EQUAL.

There are multiple goals being attained by this.

- population reduction- sending millions to hell while they are enemies of the one true God
- destruction of US morality and morale
- destruction of liberty and its greatest proponent
- bleed the energy/ wealth out of Amerika
- eliminate those who are not on the team

[Spectrism]

Anyone got a good handle on the sides?

Here is my guess on the start.
Eventually it will change (either by wipeout or side re-alignment) to ALL against Israel.

Team A
USA
Japan
South Korea
UK
Israel


Team B
China
Russia
Germany
France
Italy
Turkey
Iran
Pakistan
Syria
Libya

[Neuro]

France and Italy is clearly not at the same team as Libya!

Rothschild new world order vs. humanity, is the teams I think!

[Spectrism]

France and Italy is clearly not at the same team as Libya!

Rothschild new world order vs. humanity, is the teams I think!


Which Libya? Before or after the "war" of restructuring?

[DMac]

Germany pulls out of NATO operations (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/171235.html)

Germany has pulled out of NATO operations in the Mediterranean due to the disagreement over the forces' mission in Libya.


The German defense ministry said on Tuesday that Berlin pulled out of any military operations in the Mediterranean following the Western military alliance's involvement in the Libya conflict, DPA reported.

A ministry spokesman said two frigates and two other ships with a crew of 550 would be reverted to German command.

Some 60 to 70 German troops participating in NATO-operated AWACS surveillance operations in the Mediterranean would also be withdrawn, according to the ministry.

Following the disputes among NATO members over the military intervention in Libya, they met in Brussels to mend differences over what role the alliance should play in Libya.

France says the takeover of the operations by NATO will alienate Arab states, however, Italy believes that NATO should take control of the military campaign in Libya.

Meanwhile, the head of the Italian Senate's defense affairs committee, Gianpiero Cantoni, said the French policy is motivated by a desire to secure oil contracts with a future Libyan government.

US President Barack Obama, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister David Cameron have agreed NATO should play an important role in the command structure of the Libya mission, the White House said.

"They reviewed the substantial progress that's been made in terms of halting the advance of Gaddafi's forces on Benghazi as well as the establishment of a no-fly zone," said White House spokesman Ben Rhodes.

[Cobalt]

How come the U.S., France, and the Brits get to fly in the NO FLY ZONE and drop bombs?

Their is nothing right with what is going on there, it is all pure Bullshit.


The only good I could see coming from this is is a bunch of the members of the UN say Fuk it and drop out of that corrupt organization.