Revelations by an ex-Jew

[Bigjon]

http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com/



This is a must listen!!
Revelations by an ex-Jew
http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/mf/play/av6nkx/uglytruthAPR12010brnathanael2.mp3

[Awoke]

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/nath2.jpg

Tagging.

[Antonio]

Kill me but his hat reminds me of nurse porn ;D.

[sirgonzo420]

He looks like such a fucking idiot.

His gloves don't even match...

[gunDriller]

He looks like such a fucking idiot.

His gloves don't even match...


i do not understand Nate Kapner.

[Bigjon]

He looks like such a fucking idiot.

His gloves don't even match...


Granted he looks like an idiot, however he doesn't sound like an idiot.

Is there a way someone is supposed to look?

Are you PC trained in looks?

[sirgonzo420]

He looks like such a fucking idiot.

His gloves don't even match...


Granted he looks like an idiot, however he doesn't sound like an idiot.

Is there a way someone is supposed to look?

Are you PC trained in looks?


To me, with his voice, he does sound like an idiot as well.

Many if not most people will dismiss him as a lunatic right off the bat. I might agree with him on some things regarding zionism/jewry, but he would get a much better reception from the general population if he didn't look like a fuckin' Jim-Jones-style-crazyperson.

[Bullion_Bob]

This could very well be a case for lead the opposition in order to help control it.

Go straight to the heart of the matter, and come off as crazy while doing it.

Best case scenario is be the first to the plate, and reach the largest audience possible so that when people hear the same info, an automatic association is developed.

[sirgonzo420]

This could very well be a case for lead the opposition in order to help control it.

Go straight to the heart of the matter, and come off as crazy while doing it.

Best case scenario is be the first to the plate, and reach the largest audience possible so that when people hear the same info, an automatic association is developed.


"By way of deception, thou shalt do war"

[dys]

Most of these 'confessions from an ex jew' turn out to actually be 'confessions from someone pretending to be an ex jew'. Just my experience.

dys

[hoarder]

Bullion Bob understands the psychological mechanisms or deception.


Go straight to the heart of the matter, and come off as crazy while doing it.

Best case scenario is be the first to the plate, and reach the largest audience possible so that when people hear the same info, an automatic association is developed.

[woodman]

I listened to the interview and I understand him quite well. He's pissed, as are most of us. We are watching our world and any decency in it, being destroyed. Bro Nathaniel is pointing it out. Sure he sounds crazy. He's crazy pissed. As are most of us. Is he leading the opposition for the Jews? I doubt it. He is pointing out their duplicity and how they are destroying us.

There is a thread ongoing here about the Jews owning the world and what are we going to do about it? Well? We gonna sit here and argue about whether the Bro is a plant? We'd be better off forming some kind of organizations, just as our enemies have done. We have no other options now. We must form a battle plan and take our world back. It can only be done through mass teaching, just as Brother Nathaniel is doing. Teach those around you. We must take back political power and eventually stop them from having any legal ability to take positions of power.

Yes, it is Jews. Zionism is a Euphism. Destroy Zionism and you still have an extremely evil enemy intent on destroying every facet of decency in order to attain power over the entire world in their mistaken belief that they are better than us.

[Bigjon]

I guess you guys have it right, but did any of you listen to what he had to say?

Can you recommend any other Jewish voice that plays it straight?

[Antonio]

I`ve chatted with the man thru email a bit. He is extremely smart and educated, has a musicology degree from Boston Conservatory among his other accomplishments.
Being Russian I know for a fact that the Greek/Russian Orthodox Church here in USA is completely mason-infiltrated. I told him about it.
His friendliness instantly disappeared, he gave me a hissy fit denying this, said his collegues completely share his sentiments.
Really? How come he is alone doing what he is doing. I think Bullion Bob nailed him, I have little to add to what he said.
The man is intellegent enough to not dress up as a clown/ sucky-fucky porn nurse hybrid. The subjects he discusses are deadly serious, what better way to discredit the truth than present it in a crazy way.

[Tumbleweed]

This is a must listen!!
Revelations by an ex-Jew
http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/mf/play/av6nkx/uglytruthAPR12010brnathanael2.mp3



Damn good interview Bigjon. I think Brother Nathanial is on the level and telling it like it is. The Jews will try to lable him a crazy to discredit him but I believe he tells it like it is. I don't buy the theory he's leading the opposition either.

[Bigjon]

This is a must listen!!
Revelations by an ex-Jew
http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/mf/play/av6nkx/uglytruthAPR12010brnathanael2.mp3



Damn good interview Bigjon. I think Brother Nathanial is on the level and telling it like it is. The Jews will try to lable him a crazy to discredit him but I believe he tells it like it is. I don't buy the theory he's leading the opposition either.


I don't know if I care whether or not he is leading the opposition, all I care is that he reveals the truth. From what I've read from other sources his info seems right on the money.

I think it's great to be aware of how deceptive the Jews are and I want to thank those who pointed it out.

[po boy]

We must take back political power and eventually stop them from having any legal ability to take positions of power.




Sorry Woodman that won't happen until swine defy the law of gravity.



II know for a fact that the Greek/Russian Orthodox Church here in USA is completely mason-infiltrated. I told him about it.
His friendliness instantly disappeared, he gave me a hissy fit denying this, said his collegues completely share his sentiments.
Really? How come he is alone doing what he is doing. I think Bullion Bob nailed him, I have little to add to what he said.
The man is intellegent enough to not dress up as a clown/ sucky-fucky porn nurse hybrid. The subjects he discusses are deadly serious, what better way to discredit the truth than present it in a crazy way.

Then you have the pedophiles in the Catholic church.

When people start wearing costumes and talking about bad guys it makes me want to run.

[dys]

I listened to the interview and I understand him quite well. He's pissed, as are most of us. We are watching our world and any decency in it, being destroyed. Bro Nathaniel is pointing it out. Sure he sounds crazy. He's crazy pissed. As are most of us. Is he leading the opposition for the Jews? I doubt it. He is pointing out their duplicity and how they are destroying us.

There is a thread ongoing here about the Jews owning the world and what are we going to do about it? Well? We gonna sit here and argue about whether the Bro is a plant? We'd be better off forming some kind of organizations, just as our enemies have done. We have no other options now. We must form a battle plan and take our world back. It can only be done through mass teaching, just as Brother Nathaniel is doing. Teach those around you. We must take back political power and eventually stop them from having any legal ability to take positions of power.

Yes, it is Jews. Zionism is a Euphism. Destroy Zionism and you still have an extremely evil enemy intent on destroying every facet of decency in order to attain power over the entire world in their mistaken belief that they are better than us.


Woodman-

I have not listened to the interview yet, but I will. One thing I want to emphatically warn you about is judging the veracity or sincerity of one of these guys based on whether or not they criticize a particular group. Controlled opposition will say ANYTHING. They will bash the group they belong to and do it without mercy, or they will praise the group they are trying to subvert. You have to understand that the vast majority of these guys turn out to be controlled opposition. You have to ask yourself why a guy like this would be willing to risk life and limb in order to do this interview. Be careful out there, these guys are slick and they are very good at what they do. They (meaning confirmed controlled op, not necessarily this guy) are trying to steer you down the wrong path.

dys

[Awoke]

OK I have downloaded a copy and will listen today.

I have seen vids by Kapner, and I am already leaning towards him being controlled exactly as Bullion Bob described. However I want to give this a listen still.

[Nordmann]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AiBGqmNwOA

He believes in the Holocaust™. There's always a catch with jews who from the looks of it goes against the stream.

[woodman]

I listened to the interview and I understand him quite well. He's pissed, as are most of us. We are watching our world and any decency in it, being destroyed. Bro Nathaniel is pointing it out. Sure he sounds crazy. He's crazy pissed. As are most of us. Is he leading the opposition for the Jews? I doubt it. He is pointing out their duplicity and how they are destroying us.

There is a thread ongoing here about the Jews owning the world and what are we going to do about it? Well? We gonna sit here and argue about whether the Bro is a plant? We'd be better off forming some kind of organizations, just as our enemies have done. We have no other options now. We must form a battle plan and take our world back. It can only be done through mass teaching, just as Brother Nathaniel is doing. Teach those around you. We must take back political power and eventually stop them from having any legal ability to take positions of power.

Yes, it is Jews. Zionism is a Euphism. Destroy Zionism and you still have an extremely evil enemy intent on destroying every facet of decency in order to attain power over the entire world in their mistaken belief that they are better than us.


Woodman-

I have not listened to the interview yet, but I will. One thing I want to emphatically warn you about is judging the veracity or sincerity of one of these guys based on whether or not they criticize a particular group. Controlled opposition will say ANYTHING. They will bash the group they belong to and do it without mercy, or they will praise the group they are trying to subvert. You have to understand that the vast majority of these guys turn out to be controlled opposition. You have to ask yourself why a guy like this would be willing to risk life and limb in order to do this interview. Be careful out there, these guys are slick and they are very good at what they do. They (meaning confirmed controlled op, not necessarily this guy) are trying to steer you down the wrong path.

dys


I allow it's a possibility dys. If he is controlled op, he is still probably waking people up far more than any who are sincere. I think he is probably sincere though. He has taken a side. He says they will probably kill him and I think him right.

Lets not make the mistake of labeling a 'good message' bad, just because we are fearfull of controlled opposition. Take whatever ground your enemy gives you in battle. Take it, but watch out for minefields. It is good we are aware of the ubiquity of controlled opposition but let us not loose sight of the purity of the message. How duplicitous are they? Could be they are using our fear of controlled opposition to turn us away from the very message we ourselves would propagate, simply by saying it themselves. Let us therefore rejoice in the fact that our enemy may very well be giving away their position better than we ever could.

[dys]

I allow it's a possibility dys. If he is controlled op, he is still probably waking people up far more than any who are sincere. I think he is probably sincere though. He has taken a side. He says they will probably kill him and I think him right.

Lets not make the mistake of labeling a 'good message' bad, just because we are fearfull of controlled opposition. Take whatever ground your enemy gives you in battle. Take it, but watch out for minefields. It is good we are aware of the ubiquity of controlled opposition but let us not loose sight of the purity of the message. How duplicitous are they? Could be they are using our fear of controlled opposition to turn us away from the very message we ourselves would propagate, simply by saying it themselves. Let us therefore rejoice in the fact that our enemy may very well be giving away their position better than we ever could.


I'm not sure how much experience you've had with controlled op, but I've had a ton. What they are trying to do is steer you in a particular direction that will EVENTUALLY blind you from the truth. Picture a very narrow and poorly marked path that leads to the truth. Picture controlled op as a very gentle push to get you one or 2 steps off of the path. Once you get 1 or 2 steps off the path, the next goal is to get you 3 or 4 steps off the path- everything is based on incremental change. If you know that a particular person or group is controlled op, it is a mistake IMO to give them any audience at all. The reason for this is that they are actively trying to deceive you and they are experts at it. Trust me, no matter how smart you are or how well you can cherrypick BS from lies, they will get you thinking the wrong way eventually.
Said another way: good fruit doesn't come from rotten seeds.

dys

[Bigjon]

I allow it's a possibility dys. If he is controlled op, he is still probably waking people up far more than any who are sincere. I think he is probably sincere though. He has taken a side. He says they will probably kill him and I think him right.

Lets not make the mistake of labeling a 'good message' bad, just because we are fearfull of controlled opposition. Take whatever ground your enemy gives you in battle. Take it, but watch out for minefields. It is good we are aware of the ubiquity of controlled opposition but let us not loose sight of the purity of the message. How duplicitous are they? Could be they are using our fear of controlled opposition to turn us away from the very message we ourselves would propagate, simply by saying it themselves. Let us therefore rejoice in the fact that our enemy may very well be giving away their position better than we ever could.


I'm not sure how much experience you've had with controlled op, but I've had a ton. What they are trying to do is steer you in a particular direction that will EVENTUALLY blind you from the truth. Picture a very narrow and poorly marked path that leads to the truth. Picture controlled op as a very gentle push to get you one or 2 steps off of the path. Once you get 1 or 2 steps off the path, the next goal is to get you 3 or 4 steps off the path- everything is based on incremental change. If you know that a particular person or group is controlled op, it is a mistake IMO to give them any audience at all. The reason for this is that they are actively trying to deceive you and they are experts at it. Trust me, no matter how smart you are or how well you can cherrypick BS from lies, they will get you thinking the wrong way eventually.
Said another way: good fruit doesn't come from rotten seeds.

dys


There are good non-Jewish authors who have shined a light on the path, but they don't (in my mind) carry the weight of someone from the inside of Jewry exposing the Jews sins against humanity.

I do think Brother Nathanael is sincere and intent on exposing the Jews and converting the Jews to a superior religion (the high road) where forgiveness is a byword not a swear word.

[hoarder]

If he is controlled op, he is still probably waking people up far more than any who are sincere. Do you really think he is waking anyone up? Khazars are masters of psychology. They know the secrets of how to predetermine psychological responses.
People fall into two categories; those who have a psychological barrier to giving Khazars credit for their malicious cleverness and those who do not. Which ones is he waking up?

[Bigjon]

If he is controlled op, he is still probably waking people up far more than any who are sincere. Do you really think he is waking anyone up? Khazars are masters of psychology. They know the secrets of how to predetermine psychological responses.
People fall into two categories; those who have a psychological barrier to giving Khazars credit for their malicious cleverness and those who do not. Which ones is he waking up?


I think uninitiated people (sheeple) would be shocked to hear the message he conveys in the OP and that shock might be enough for them to get off of their rocking chairs and investigate Jews. Even if it is to prove Brother Nathanael wrong, an investigation would lead to more insight than the vacuum where these people currently reside.

Have you listened to the audio?

Do you have another Jew to recommend?

[hoarder]

I think uninitiated people (sheeple) would be shocked to hear the message he conveys in the OP and that shock might be enough for them to get off of their rocking chairs and investigate Jews. With the flood of ideas, porn, jokes and insanity people are being subjected to by hollywood and the internet, there really isn't much shock factor anymore. 99% of sheeple who watch the video will dismiss him as a kook, a role he plays well. The only people who will even give him reasonable consideration based on the truthfulness of what he says are people like you and me. Khazars HOPE that we will discredit ourselves by trying to prove a point by posting a video of a clown.

People do not easily dismiss their long held beliefs when confronted by the truth. It should not be done in a sloppy manner.
Khazars understand the psychology of "first time". They know many of the goyim will be confronted by the truth so it makes sense to me that they would want the truth presented in the most unpalatable method the first time they hear it.

[Bigjon]

I think uninitiated people (sheeple) would be shocked to hear the message he conveys in the OP and that shock might be enough for them to get off of their rocking chairs and investigate Jews. With the flood of ideas, porn, jokes and insanity people are being subjected to by hollywood and the internet, there really isn't much shock factor anymore. 99% of sheeple who watch the video will dismiss him as a kook, a role he plays well. The only people who will even give him reasonable consideration based on the truthfulness of what he says are people like you and me. Khazars HOPE that we will discredit ourselves by trying to prove a point by posting a video of a clown.

People do not easily dismiss their long held beliefs when confronted by the truth. It should not be done in a sloppy manner.
Khazars understand the psychology of "first time". They know many of the goyim will be confronted by the truth so it makes sense to me that they would want the truth presented in the most unpalatable method the first time they hear it.


Their first impression is going to be the tone of his voice... You are not paying attention, are you just here to win an argument?


Have you Listened to the audio?

Do you have a Jew to recommend?

[sirgonzo420]

I think uninitiated people (sheeple) would be shocked to hear the message he conveys in the OP and that shock might be enough for them to get off of their rocking chairs and investigate Jews. With the flood of ideas, porn, jokes and insanity people are being subjected to by hollywood and the internet, there really isn't much shock factor anymore. 99% of sheeple who watch the video will dismiss him as a kook, a role he plays well. The only people who will even give him reasonable consideration based on the truthfulness of what he says are people like you and me. Khazars HOPE that we will discredit ourselves by trying to prove a point by posting a video of a clown.

People do not easily dismiss their long held beliefs when confronted by the truth. It should not be done in a sloppy manner.
Khazars understand the psychology of "first time". They know many of the goyim will be confronted by the truth so it makes sense to me that they would want the truth presented in the most unpalatable method the first time they hear it.


Their first impression is going to be the tone of his voice... You are not paying attention, are you just here to win an argument?


Have you Listened to the audio?

Do you have a Jew to recommend?


Don't hold your breath waiting for hoarder to "recommend a jew".

lol

[chad]

i'm curious. what is the point of looking like a flipped out, hippie version of "where's waldo?" is looking insane part of his message? what am i missing here? :conf:

[Santa]

Yeah, what good reason would this Jew have to dress up in a Fake ass Christian clown suit?

[Bigjon]

I think uninitiated people (sheeple) would be shocked to hear the message he conveys in the OP and that shock might be enough for them to get off of their rocking chairs and investigate Jews. With the flood of ideas, porn, jokes and insanity people are being subjected to by hollywood and the internet, there really isn't much shock factor anymore. 99% of sheeple who watch the video will dismiss him as a kook, a role he plays well. The only people who will even give him reasonable consideration based on the truthfulness of what he says are people like you and me. Khazars HOPE that we will discredit ourselves by trying to prove a point by posting a video of a clown.

People do not easily dismiss their long held beliefs when confronted by the truth. It should not be done in a sloppy manner.
Khazars understand the psychology of "first time". They know many of the goyim will be confronted by the truth so it makes sense to me that they would want the truth presented in the most unpalatable method the first time they hear it.


Their first impression is going to be the tone of his voice... You are not paying attention, are you just here to win an argument?


Have you Listened to the audio?

Do you have a Jew to recommend?


Don't hold your breath waiting for hoarder to "recommend a jew".

lol


Don't you think that the voice of an insider carries more weight than the voice of an outsider?

I take it you haven't listened to the audio?

[Twisted Titan]

I have but one lamp to guide my path when It comes to judge if one of them have seen the error of their Zionist ways.

How is said individual supported and what they ask for.

If said convert solicits for "money" they are but a snare to your feet.

Every Zionist/ Jew is taught or has access to the weapon of Usury.

There is no Zionist/Jew that "needs" paper money to spread the truth.

They only need it because it has proven to be the most subtle effective waysto keep you weak and never having the time to figure out how the grand deception is because you are so deeply enmeshed in it.

This nappy haired Charlatan can kiss my Silver @$$.

[Bigjon]

I have but one lamp to guide my path when It comes to judge if one of them have seen the error of their Zionist ways.

How is said individual supported and what they ask for.

If said convert solicits for "money" they are but a snare to your feet.

Every Zionist/ Jew is taught or has access to the weapon of Usury.

There is no Zionist/Jew that "needs" paper money to spread the truth.

They only need it because it has proven to be the most subtle effective waysto keep you weak and never having the time to figure out how the grand deception is because you are so deeply enmeshed in it.

This nappy haired Charlatan can kiss my Silver @$$.


I guess you have him nailed either way. If he asks for money he's a charlatan and if he doesn't ask for money he's financed by the Jews.

[Awoke]

BigJon, don't take it too personally. This is a tough crowd here, and most of us are skeptical of everyone.

(For God-sake, Ron Paul is a FMC member.)

So keep your chip up. You are not under attack. You just have to recognize that Kapner looks and acts like an idiot in his videos, which is a serious turn-off to anyone who is just waking up to the matrix.

He makes Christianity look like a dog and pony show, and makes conspiracy research look like childrens overactive imaginations at work.

So although I appreciate what I have seen him say in his videos in the past, I recognize how he could easily make a fresh red pill back up and reach out for another blue pill.

With that being said, I will now listen to the audio you posted.

[hoarder]

Their first impression is going to be the tone of his voice... You are not paying attention, are you just here to win an argument?


Have you Listened to the audio?

Do you have a Jew to recommend?
The audio plays Jew music and then a guy with a feminine voice comes on saying basically nothing. Still have it on in the background.
I have watched other Kapner vids and his style is consistent, an over-dramatic clown, which is turn off.


The lack of Jews to recommend does not give Kapner any added credibility.

[chad]

jeff rense is on the board of directors of his foundation. i've always had some respect for rense, so i don't know...

[hoarder]

Don't hold your breath waiting for hoarder to "recommend a jew".

lol
Benjamin Freedman. You guys can exhale now! :D

[Bigjon]

Their first impression is going to be the tone of his voice... You are not paying attention, are you just here to win an argument?


Have you Listened to the audio?

Do you have a Jew to recommend?
The audio plays Jew music and then a guy with a feminine voice comes on saying basically nothing. Still have it on in the background.
I have watched other Kapner vids and his style is consistent, an over-dramatic clown, which is turn off.


The lack of Jews to recommend does not give Kapner any added credibility.


Jew music??? lol

Is there any other kind?

Mark Glen has done a number of excellent audio's with USS Liberty surviver Phil Tourney.

I screwed up, OK, I admit it.

Still the guy can be used, if you only hear him, his message is strong and clear. A later follow up letter to illustrate the Jews propensity of leading the opposition to lead it astray and to poison the well by making it appear ridiculous, would serve as an object lesson raising awareness of the Jews duplicity.

[MAGNES]

http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com/

This is a must listen!!
Revelations by an ex-Jew
http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/mf/play/av6nkx/uglytruthAPR12010brnathanael2.mp3



Bigjon, excellent post, unfortunately people are not looking at the information, the author,
your great links.

You are being trolled and some here can't see that following down that path too.

EXCELLENT SITE
http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com/

EXCELLENT SISTER SITES
http://thisiszionism.blogspot.com/

http://factsnotfairies.blogspot.com/

EXCELLENT BOOK
http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com/2008/02/architects-of-deception_01.html

MORE EXCELLENT BOOKS
http://thisiszionism.blogspot.com/2005/04/wall-street-and-rise-of-hitler.html
http://thisiszionism.blogspot.com/2009/03/wall-street-and-bolshevik-revolution.html
http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com/2007/03/none-dare-call-it-conspiracy.html

EXCELLENT WEBSITE, full of truthful information
http://www.realzionistnews.com/

So what if the guy comes off as eccentric, he is a good writer,
analyst, take the leads and information and find other sources,
you are not supposed to get info from one source.

BIGJON has excellent links above. Contribute instead of talk shit.

"The Jewish people as a whole will be its own Messiah. It will attain world domination by the dissolution of other races...and by the establishment of a world republic in which everywhere the Jews will exercise the privilege of citizenship. In this New World Order the Children of Israel...will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition..." (Karl Marx in a letter to Baruch Levy, quoted in Review de Paris, June 1, 1928, p. 574)

[MAGNES]

This could very well be a case for lead the opposition in order to help control it.


First off Antonio deliberately trolls this thread among with a few others recently.
I can see it plain as day because I know his positions and seen his mo, he hates
Kapner, and others hate Kapner, what is controlled ? The guy ain't running for
Pres, he comes off as eccentric, big deal, he started with a website full of truthful
articles, nobody here is posting or talking about them, I will tell you right now why
most here don't like them, his Christian message at the bottom of all his articles.

His articles are full of truth, see my above posts, compare to the rest of thread.

You don't have to like the guy or agree with all his work and all his positions,
he ain't Alex Jones, his articles made him, he ain't running for office, "controlled",
what's that, how is he misleading people ? How is he the pide piper steering his
miniscule readers off the cliff ? A noob coming across his site may do their own
research, like many of us did, Judicial was loons too right, you are all loons or can
be painted as loons by the adl, so what, the tea party is all loons now, lol .

Let me tell you people something important, there is very good information
out there and the same mo and attacks can be made on everyone, the media
discredits people this way so people do not go to the information itself, and
I see this playing out in this thread.

Like Bollyn, perfect example.

Everyone is a loon according to the Jews.

Do you people need me to explain this to you , of course not.

To those of you not familiar with Kapners articles you are missing out.

To those of you that are familiar with the information, help out ?

I'll post pics of the freaky Jews who run the show, I'll take Kapner any day over them.

Everyones post here is a distraction to real good information.

Don't be trolled and don't troll yourselves.

Edit, I removed my smart ass remarks, " you have been played ", " what is your problem ".
This site is full of good info, I hate watching go to page 2 faster than yapping threads.

[Kruger]

I thanked the posts above detailing how controlled opposition works, but I think I agree with Magnes here. The dude is obviously a clown, but all we can really go on is: is his message legit, and is he mysteriously well-funded? I'd say yes, and no.

"Don't be trolled and don't troll yourselves." -Magnes

LOL I like it.

[Awoke]

I have listened to this recording, and it gets my stamp of approval.

The Continent of North America is usurped and being destroyed from the inside, and these guys point the finger at the jews.

Here is the issue I take with it. I have ton a shitload of research myself, and I would never consider saying that I have all the answers, but I have reservations on this interview because of this:

"It's not just israel"

Then for an hour they say "It's the jews jews jews" and two times Kapner comes out and says "It's not the CFR, TLC, BBG, it's the jews."

Does Kapner not realize the origin and usage of those associations???? HTF could he not know that they are all jewish incepted/infiltrated organizations? It makes no sense to me.

Yes he discusses the meat of the matter: How our kids are being taught to embrace homosexuality, violence, materialism, how Christianity is banned from schools and Christian symbols are made out to be offensive, and how the conspiracy is thousands of years old.

But for them to come out and not give the secret societies their due, in regard to the roles they play in the subversion of the globe? That is suspect to me.

Still, a good listen. Thanks BigJon.

[Bigjon]

What I heard was that just getting rid of the secret societies and Israel would not be sufficient without first identifying the origin of the problem and that is THE JEWS.

THE JEWS are the crux of the problem and have to be identified as such, calling them Zionists, Illuminaughty, or other code words is sidestepping the problem.

[Tumbleweed]

This is a must listen!!
Revelations by an ex-Jew
http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/mf/play/av6nkx/uglytruthAPR12010brnathanael2.mp3



This ia a bump for probably one of the best interviews I've listened to. Unvarnished truth.

[dys]

I just listened to exactly 34 minutes of this interview, and I've heard enough. Looks like I'll be out on an island on this one. I believe that it is disinformation. Argument:

1. Convoluted, long winded and extremely general prose.
Talking a lot without giving any, or very little, specifics. Points are overly general, nonexistent, or needlessly repeated.
2. Tangent.
Starting down one road and getting sidetracked, never to return to original point. Rush Limbaugh is another disinformation agent that does the exact same thing. (aside: when I was in college, I had a conversation with a well to do jewish student about Rush. I complained about this, and he tried very hard to convince me that tangent was the hallmark of intellectualism. True story.)
3. Lack of substance.
Accusation without explanation. Giving the 'what' without the 'why'.
4. Overcompensation.
'Brother Nathanael'. (btw, this is a Jewish trick that I have seen a million times) Overly dramatic. Theatrics.


Sorry guys, this is a bad source.

dys

[Tumbleweed]

I just listened to exactly 34 minutes of this interview, and I've heard enough. Looks like I'll be out on an island on this one. I believe that it is disinformation. Argument:

1. Convoluted, long winded and extremely general prose.
Talking a lot without giving any, or very little, specifics. Points are overly general, nonexistent, or needlessly repeated.
2. Tangent.
Starting down one road and getting sidetracked, never to return to original point. Rush Limbaugh is another disinformation agent that does the exact same thing. (aside: when I was in college, I had a conversation with a well to do jewish student about Rush. I complained about this, and he tried very hard to convince me that tangent was the hallmark of intellectualism. True story.)
3. Lack of substance.
Accusation without explanation. Giving the 'what' without the 'why'.
4. Overcompensation.
'Brother Nathanael'. (btw, this is a Jewish trick that I have seen a million times) Overly dramatic. Theatrics.


Sorry guys, this is a bad source.

dys





I dont know how old you are dys but i'm crouding sixty. Had a friend of mine who had a jewish mother and he listened to it with me. this is the most truethful and honest audio i've listened to. It ain't Bullshit.

[dys]

I dont know how old you are dys but i'm crouding sixty. Had a friend of mine who had a jewish mother and he listened to it with me. this is the most truethful and honest audioss i've listened to. It ain't Bullshit.

No, it's not BS. Controlled op is never BS...it's a mixture of truth and lies.

A couple of questions to ask yourself:

1. Why do they take so long to make their points?
2. Would this interview get any traction with someone that is unaware of the Jewish conspiracy?
3. Did this interview teach you anything you didn't know?

Read between the lines.

dys

[Antonio]

To me things are very simple. If a guy looks like a clown, he is either a degenerate or he is playing one, no third explanation will do.
I`m very conservative in the way I dress, usually you can`t see me from a distance because I blend in with asphalt
( wear only 3 colors, black,grey and khaki).

Flamboyance belongs to gay bars, not the Orthodox Church.

[Bigjon]

I dont know how old you are dys but i'm crouding sixty. Had a friend of mine who had a jewish mother and he listened to it with me. this is the most truethful and honest audioss i've listened to. It ain't Bullshit.

No, it's not BS. Controlled op is never BS...it's a mixture of truth and lies.

A couple of questions to ask yourself:

1. Why do they take so long to make their points?
2. Would this interview get any traction with someone that is unaware of the Jewish conspiracy?
3. Did this interview teach you anything you didn't know?

Read between the lines.

dys





You take your best shot at shooting down the piece without exposing one idea that was discussed... Now that is disinfo and a plea to others that they shouldn't listen.

I think you are the disinfo man.

[dys]

You take your best shot at shooting down the piece without exposing one idea that was discussed... Now that is disinfo and a plea to others that they shouldn't listen.

I think you are the disinfo man.


With respect, I never said that others shouldn't listen. I did say that I believe this source is bad, and I do.

dys

[Bigjon]

You take your best shot at shooting down the piece without exposing one idea that was discussed... Now that is disinfo and a plea to others that they shouldn't listen.

I think you are the disinfo man.


With respect, I never said that others shouldn't listen. I did say that I believe this source is bad, and I do.

dys

You say there are lies in the piece. Could you point them out?


Well br Nathanael is the only current day former Jew who is speaking out and for those who are uninitiated they would naturally give his word more weight than an outsider.

here are some notes I took about the topics covered:

It is not pc to say jew so you say Zionist

It isn’t just Israel,

Bro nathanael

Jews always identify themselves as Jews instead of as Americans
Craig Roberts never uses the J word or the Z word and it didn’t get him anywhere because he got fired from every post.
Jews attack on Gazza approved of by 80% of Jews yet they say the opposite when queried as an individual
Imagine there were no Israel… but we would still be screwed as a(septic tank) nation… who is responsible destroying Christianity, destroying marriage, denigrating women, killing babies…
Jews control schools, money, everyaspect of American life is controlled by Jews, they have taken over.
No history of the byzantine empire, a Christian empire, which limited Jews law, education and gov.
Jews will not allow solzenitsen book 200 years living together to be put into English.
Democracy is for the rich… the Jews.
Abortion is the worst crime imaginable murdered in the womb, brought about by the Jews.
Roe lied, all lies a law based on lies.
Jews look at us as their slaves… br N sang Israel ntnl anthem, hypocrits on the dole, stole Palestine, Jews own congress, hate laws
Jews worship themselves and demand others worship them also. Br N we are at war, every American should be signing up to fight this war. Is the candidat good for the Jews
Jews got a law against Christian symbols, but Jewish symbols are legal.
Jewish children don’t watch the trash on tv they’re studying to lead the goyim health care won’t work for America, because whites will pay and trash will collect.
G Soros wants central control. Multi-cultural, multi-credal 65 law Jakob Javits
Akorn funding takenaway run by Soros had funding taken away, but Jew judge restored funding
Very few Christian judges, who are bought… rest are Jews.
Mark Glen is part Palestinian,


The basic idea is we are in a war for our survival and if we cannot enlist enough of our fellow white Christians we are doomed. The Jews hate us and will do anything to get rid of us.

[dys]

Well br Nathanael is the only current day former Jew who is speaking out and for those who are uninitiated they would naturally give his word more weight than an outsider.

here are some notes I took about the topics covered:

It is not pc to say jew so you say Zionist

It isn’t just Israel,

Bro nathanael

Jews always identify themselves as Jews instead of as Americans
Craig Roberts never uses the J word or the Z word and it didn’t get him anywhere because he got fired from every post.
Jews attack on Gazza approved of by 80% of Jews yet they say the opposite when queried as an individual
Imagine there were no Israel… but we would still be screwed as a(septic tank) nation… who is responsible destroying Christianity, destroying marriage, denigrating women, killing babies…
Jews control schools, money, everyaspect of American life is controlled by Jews, they have taken over.
No history of the byzantine empire, a Christian empire, which limited Jews law, education and gov.
Jews will not allow solzenitsen book 200 years living together to be put into English.
Democracy is for the rich… the Jews.
Abortion is the worst crime imaginable murdered in the womb, brought about by the Jews.
Roe lied, all lies a law based on lies.
Jews look at us as their slaves… br N sang Israel ntnl anthem, hypocrits on the dole, stole Palestine, Jews own congress, hate laws
Jews worship themselves and demand others worship them also. Br N we are at war, every American should be signing up to fight this war. Is the candidat good for the Jews
Jews got a law against Christian symbols, but Jewish symbols are legal.
Jewish children don’t watch the trash on tv they’re studying to lead the goyim health care won’t work for America, because whites will pay and trash will collect.
G Soros wants central control. Multi-cultural, multi-credal 65 law Jakob Javits
Akorn funding takenaway run by Soros had funding taken away, but Jew judge restored funding
Very few Christian judges, who are bought… rest are Jews.
Mark Glen is part Palestinian,


The basic idea is we are in a war for our survival and if we cannot enlist enough of our fellow white Christians we are doomed. The Jews hate us and will do anything to get rid of us.



Are you a Christian, Bigjon? I ask for two reasons. First, I am a Christian. Second, I've seen many Jews in religious scenarios posing as X Jews and pretending to be preachers, Christians, reformed, etc. I point this out, because I have seen their games many times before. Do you know how to get in touch with this guy? If you do, I'd like to put him to the test (John 4:3). If he passes the test, I will cheerfully come back here and tell everyone that I was wrong about the guy. I am just a man, I am not perfect and I could very well be wrong. I'm getting to the point where I HOPE I get proven wrong on one of these things.

dys

[hoarder]

You take your best shot at shooting down the piece without exposing one idea that was discussed... Now that is disinfo and a plea to others that they shouldn't listen.

A while back a fellow member of this forum who is a Hitler believer insisted that I read Mein Kamph and demonstrate that it was false.
Bigjon, the point that you and he are missing is that giving false information is not what Hitler and Kapner are about. They are about tainting true information, and both have played their role very well.

[woodman]

It could be that Bro Kapner acts the clown in order to garner attention. There is a lot of that in show biz, so maybe he is putting on a show, which necessitates him acting the clown. I agree that being a clown, degrades the message. He should clean up his appearance. Don't let this blind you to the fact that instead of striking at the branches (Zionism) in this message they are striking at the root (Jews).

[Bigjon]

Are you a Christian, Bigjon? I ask for two reasons. First, I am a Christian. Second, I've seen many Jews in religious scenarios posing as X Jews and pretending to be preachers, Christians, reformed, etc. I point this out, because I have seen their games many times before. Do you know how to get in touch with this guy? If you do, I'd like to put him to the test (John 4:3). If he passes the test, I will cheerfully come back here and tell everyone that I was wrong about the guy. I am just a man, I am not perfect and I could very well be wrong. I'm getting to the point where I HOPE I get proven wrong on one of these things.

dys


No, I'm not a Christian. I was raised as a presbyterian. My father was a very domineering type who was also a religious NUT. I guess I'm still in rebellion, at age 68. I admire the philosophy, the rules and the order, but can't bring myself to giving up my autonomy.

I have a neighbor who is very religious and we talk frequently. He is totally unaware of what is going on and won't believe a word of what I say. It's too far out for him to believe that the Jews could be bad people or responsible for what we see every day, the degradation of our laws and our society. He sees the degradation, the homo's, the porn et al, but won't blame anyone except evil liberals for it.

He also lacks a real sense of his own morals as he looks to what others say on TV for his guidance, he tried to convince me that torture is good and necessary.

He won't read any of the things I send him, he is a very narrow minded person. He is very focused on being a nice person. He blames all of Americans problems on the Muslims and evil liberals.

The people I know who are good Christians are all blind as a bat, to what is going on right under their noses.


The Christian church today is as evil to me as the Jews, it brings in and embraces all the filth, abortion, gay marriage, homo's, et al.

[Tumbleweed]

1 They are building a foundation for what they are going to say and they are educating people that's why it takes them more time to make their points.

2 they are planting seeds in peoples minds and it takes time for people to start to see the truth they are revealing.

3 No I don't believe I heard anything I hadn't before. What they do is to identify the Jews and what they have been doing for a long time. It takes courage to do that.

What are the lies they told dys?




I dont know how old you are dys but i'm crouding sixty. Had a friend of mine who had a jewish mother and he listened to it with me. this is the most truethful and honest audioss i've listened to. It ain't Bullshit.

No, it's not BS. Controlled op is never BS...it's a mixture of truth and lies.

A couple of questions to ask yourself:

1. Why do they take so long to make their points?
2. Would this interview get any traction with someone that is unaware of the Jewish conspiracy?
3. Did this interview teach you anything you didn't know?

Read between the lines.

dys

[Antonio]

Bigjon, show your neighbour the movie They Live. Sounds like he needs to be un-Hannitized a bit...

[dys]

No, I'm not a Christian. I was raised as a presbyterian. My father was a very domineering type who was also a religious NUT. I guess I'm still in rebellion, at age 68. I admire the philosophy, the rules and the order, but can't bring myself to giving up my autonomy.

I have a neighbor who is very religious and we talk frequently. He is totally unaware of what is going on and won't believe a word of what I say. It's too far out for him to believe that the Jews could be bad people or responsible for what we see every day, the degradation of our laws and our society. He sees the degradation, the homo's, the porn et al, but won't blame anyone except evil liberals for it.

He also lacks a real sense of his own morals as he looks to what others say on TV for his guidance, he tried to convince me that torture is good and necessary.

The people I know who are good Christians are all blind as a bat, to what is going on right under their noses. He won't read any of the things I send him, he is a very narrow minded person. He is very focused on being a nice person. He blames all of Americans problems on the Muslims and evil liberals.

The Christian church today is as evil to me as the Jews, it brings in and embraces all the filth, abortion, gay marriage, homo's, et al.



I became aware of the Jewish conspiracy in a backwards sort of way. First, I became aware of the Satanic conspiracy. The Satanic conspiracy lead me to the Jewish conspiracy. In general, you are probably more well versed in the Jewish conspiracy than I am, I don't deny that. But something that I am well versed in is the Satanic conspiracy. Hear me out:

Here is the Satanic progression of strategy-
1. Rejection
2. Rebellion
3. Deception

Does this sound familiar to you? It does to me, because I lived it.
Forget about what you think you know about Christians. The thief only comes to steal, kill, and destroy. The first place they went was the churches and in particular Christian churches. Even the good ones are constantly under attack. As far as the individuals, there are so few of us out there now. Anybody can say anything, I'm sure you've read The Protocols of Zion. How many cryptojew religious leaders and pseudo-Christians are out there? The Christian religion has been infiltrated to such a ridiculous extent that the genuine article is the rare exception, no longer the rule.

dys

[dys]

1 They are building a foundation for what they are going to say and they are educating people that's why it takes them more time to make their points.


This I disagree with. A foundation requires concepts that can be directly, clearly, and concisely articulated. I heard vagueness, which is a hallmark of disinformation.


2 they are planting seeds in peoples minds and it takes time for people to start to see the truth they are revealing.

Very few seeds, very few ideas. Accusation without explanation can tend to have the opposite effect of what you say...it can cement in people's minds that something is untrue.



3 No I don't believe I heard anything I hadn't before. What they do is to identify the Jews and what they have been doing for a long time. It takes courage to do that.

Exactly my point. The interview was aimed at people that already believe what he is saying. As Hoarder said, people that do not have these beliefs wouldn't make it 5 minutes into that interview.


What are the lies they told dys?

I honestly don't know. That's the thing about controlled opposition, it is very hard to seperate what is worthwhile from what is not.

dys

[Bigjon]

Who's a clown and who is not?

Some of you would not follow or listen to any of these guys if they had on plain street clothes.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Bishop_Richard_Williamson.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Popepiusix.jpg

http://orthodox.net/photos/parish/2009-08-09_moleben-on-the-land+priest-seraphim.jpg

http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/files/2010/03/greek-priests-351x233-custom.jpg

get your own clown suit.

[dys]

If you are referring to me when you say 'some of you', what makes you think I would listen to any of these guys in any situation?

You don't know what you think you know.

dys

[Tumbleweed]

dys if you're a christian and the holy spirit is with you that is your guide in these things. It's that small voice inside you that helps you know right from wrong. What I hear in that audio is truth. What I'm hearing here in the negative comments about this audio I believe are the lies of satan.

[DMac]

30 minutes into this podcast, it is spot on.

[Horn]

Yes, it is Jews. Zionism is a Euphism. Destroy Zionism and you still have an extremely evil enemy intent on destroying every facet of decency in order to attain power over the entire world in their mistaken belief that they are better than us.


The people of Earth must own it, Not any organization otherwise.

The timing just right now for them to claim it, even peacefully.

http://www.themarinaexperiment.com/wp-content/uploads/no_camping.jpg

[dys]

dys if you're a christian and the holy spirit is with you that is your guide in these things. It's that small voice inside you that helps you know right from wrong. What I hear in that audio is truth. What I'm hearing here in the negative comments about this audio I believe are the lies of satan.


Well like I said, I'm just a man; I'm not infallible. Could be that I'm wrong, although I don't believe that I am. I would love to be proven wrong. Do you know how to get ahold of this Nathanael character via email? I'd like to contact him.

dys

[Bigjon]

dys if you're a christian and the holy spirit is with you that is your guide in these things. It's that small voice inside you that helps you know right from wrong. What I hear in that audio is truth. What I'm hearing here in the negative comments about this audio I believe are the lies of satan.


Well like I said, I'm just a man; I'm not infallible. Could be that I'm wrong, although I don't believe that I am. I would love to be proven wrong. Do you know how to get ahold of this Nathanael character via email? I'd like to contact him.

dys


bronathanael@yahoo.com

It's right at the top of his website.

Brother Nathanael Kapner
http://www.realzionistnews.com/

[dys]

bronathanael@yahoo.com

It's right at the top of his website.

Brother Nathanael Kapner
http://www.realzionistnews.com/



I contacted him. I'll let you know and will be the first person to admit that I was wrong if in fact I am wrong about this gentleman.

dys

[Tumbleweed]

dys you can get lost reading to much. Just keep the ten commandments and know that anyone who trys to lead you away from keeping them is working for Satan.





dys if you're a christian and the holy spirit is with you that is your guide in these things. It's that small voice inside you that helps you know right from wrong. What I hear in that audio is truth. What I'm hearing here in the negative comments about this audio I believe are the lies of satan.


Well like I said, I'm just a man; I'm not infallible. Could be that I'm wrong, although I don't believe that I am. I would love to be proven wrong. Do you know how to get ahold of this Nathanael character via email? I'd like to contact him.

dys

[steyr_m]

I wonder what Jeff Rense would think of this thread if he read it. He features N. Kapner quite often on his site.

[PatColo]

I started a thread on this in the CT forum [Japan: Victim of Scaluar Warfare Attack [???] (http://gold-silver.us/forum/conspiracy-theories/japan-victim-of-scaluar-warfare-attack-()/msg204612/#msg204612)], cross posting here because of the Kapner observation.



Japan: Victim of Scaluar Warfare Attack (http://europebusines.blogspot.com/2011/03/japan-victim-of-scaluar-warfare-attack.html)

The title "Lord Stirling" chose above implies greater certainty than what he writes in the short article, perhaps he should have ended the title with a question mark. But what he writes about recognizing TPTB's patterns, I agree with-- without my being able to "prove" anything; based on just enough empirical knowledge but mostly on pattern recognition and intuition, my first guess would certainly be that weather warfare is underway wrt Japan, another "engineered natural disaster".

Incidentally, another thread discusses Bro. Nathaneal Kapner and whether he's for real or another pied piper; and this recent vid from him dismissing/ridiculing the notion that the chain of disasters in Japan is perhaps less than an act of God, is the strongest piece of evidence I've seen that Kapner's yet another tool;

Japan, Quakes & The Jewish Question (BrN On Video!) # 239 (http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=618)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD-nviRKcSU&feature=player_embedded

[Tumbleweed]

Seems like quite a stretch to think Brother Nathanael is a tool for the Jews just because he doesn't think the quake in Japan was caused by Harp or a nuclear weapon.

He stays pretty focused on the Jews and the problems they cause around the world.

[dys]

Seems like quite a stretch to think Brother Nathanael is a tool for the Jews just because he doesn't think the quake in Japan was caused by Harp or a nuclear weapon.

He stays pretty focused on the Jews and the problems they cause around the world.


Not a stretch at all. Controlled op often has a 'pet issue' component to it. The game is to create buy in/trust, and then leverage that buy/in trust in order to influence sentiment on the issue(s).
If you watch the first video posted on this thread, the video alleges that BN has connections to the vatican. My experience is that the most effective controlled op has connections to either the Vatican or Mormonism.
Also, I sent BN an email a couple of days ago with the Christian test. He never responded. Doesn't prove that he is controlled op, does indicate he is not genuine concerning his Christianity. Not a good sign.
Finally, check out the getup he is wearing. Puh-leaze. And check out the long beard. I have long noted that long beards are a VERY BAD sign when religious leaders wear them.

This is definetly a bad source.

dys

[Horn]

Finally, check out the getup he is wearing. Puh-leaze. And check out the long beard. I have long noted that long beards are a VERY BAD sign when religious leaders wear them.

This is definetly a bad source.

dys


I can see it now.

dys knockin on the pearly gates & being refused entry due to beard lenght. ;D

Most of these things are worked out in time, the dorky smile at the end of the video in conjunct with the words spoke is what worries me more.

[hoarder]

Imagine yourselves trying to explain the Khazar problem in that tone of voice while darting both index fingers around, grinnin like a coon dog shittin a peach seed.

[Antonio]

the dorky smile at the end of the video in conjunct with the words spoke is what worries me more.


I have noticed the dorky smile at the end of EVERY video of his, meant to talk about this but never got around to it. I don`t think it`s just dorky, the dorkiness is a veil over the true nature of this smile which imho is cannibalistic. Watch his eyes closely when he does has become the obligatory smile at the end of every video. Those eyes turn pretty sadistic at the very last second and I don`t think they signify his distaste for the sheenies.
Smile is not just a mouth gesture, we smile with our eyes at the same time (or we don`t).

[Neuro]

I haven't watched a single full video of his yet. The reason being that they have a very long download time where I am, and those times I have tried to take the time to get his video, it has been interrupted after a minute or so.

But I wonder why he has bleached his teeth, he has a very weird appearance to me, he does look like a loon, even if his message is 100% spot on, I can't think of a worse messenger to bring it to someone about to wake up from zombiehood.

[Bigjon]

I haven't watched a single full video of his yet. The reason being that they have a very long download time where I am, and those times I have tried to take the time to get his video, it has been interrupted after a minute or so.

But I wonder why he has bleached his teeth, he has a very weird appearance to me, he does look like a loon, even if his message is 100% spot on, I can't think of a worse messenger to bring it to someone about to wake up from zombiehood.


I use opera (a Norwegian product, maybe that's why a swede can't use it. lol) and it has a download manager built in. If a download gets interrupted, you can just restart it.

I feel very twisted about this controlled op thing, but I will use A. Jones if he is saying the right thing and I think it will wake someone up and I know Jones is a crypto Jew and controlled op. In the same manner I think using Br N is alright and can serve to show how duplicitous the Jews are.

[Neuro]

Bigjon I am using safari, because I have an iPod touch. The limiting factor for me is bandwith, in Turkey FAST broadband Internet connection is a dream. Maybe in the summer I will be able to watch these Br N videos, in our Swedish summer house.

I have nothing against using Norwegian software, I did use Opera many years ago actually. Like you I am quite pragmatic, and I don't mind learning from known shills either. In a way they can be useful idiots, for our cause as well. IOW liberating us from the masters they serve. Where is Percival btw?

[Bigjon]

Bigjon I am using safari, because I have an iPod touch. The limiting factor for me is bandwith, in Turkey FAST broadband Internet connection is a dream. Maybe in the summer I will be able to watch these Br N videos, in our Swedish summer house.

I have nothing against using Norwegian software, I did use Opera many years ago actually. Like you I am quite pragmatic, and I don't mind learning from known shills either. In a way they can be useful idiots, for our cause as well. IOW liberating us from the masters they serve. Where is Percival btw?


Many of my best friends are Swedish and we have a great time telling jokes about each other's respective nationalities and we are all Americans, but are Swedes and Norwegians at the same time. And the real Norwegian's my cousins from Norway seem to get real up tight when an American like myself tries to say I'm Norwegian too.

[Neuro]

Hehehe I can imagine that Bigjon! Norwegians tend to be uptight about many things that hurt their national ego. I think it comes from being a colony of Sweden or Denmark for most of their existence!

[MAGNES]

I just listened to exactly 34 minutes of this interview


Dude, you want to talk about disinfo ?

I gave you the benefit of the doubt and still do dys, but your
comments are in a few places, you are no student of history,
nor do you know any history of Western Philosophy or the history
of the Church. You present yourself as knowledgeable yet
have no good information sources yourself nor history
that matters. And you even contribute to arguments that
caused us to research and out key people.

Kapner in the mp3 talks about strategies, what to say,
Zionist, Jew, etc, does it matter, conclusion NO, Jews
will go after you cause of the message alone, they
mention Paul Craig Roberts, very important, his strategy,
I am a student and always pushed his articles and discussed
his changing tone and strategy, this is important , then they
discuss BYZANTIUM AND JUSTINIAN, then then discuss
ABORTION, then they encourage people to look at sources,
name SPLC as liars, connect some dots, openly talk about
degenerate policies openly promoted and indoctrination, ...
openly talks about Ford and his book, and banning Christmas,
great leads for anyone ...

Kapner covered good ground, gave good references, connected the dots,
told everyone that " they must get involved " , just like Plato, if you
are not involved you are an " idiot ", that is where the word comes from.

THIS IS AT 30 MINUTES

EVERYTHING IS WORTH EXPANDING ON

And Dys calls himself a Christian outing disinfo
and tells you " not a good source " .

Right now on this forum there are people promoting satanism.
Totally corrupting key European history and leaders again.
Dys is quiet, he even came in to help them in their arguments,
I just put this down to Dys being ignorant of history and these
matters. But now he is outing Kapner, please.

Hoarder turned gim upside down by posting sections of protocols,
then he went underground, talks about group politics which is key.
On this his comments are not right. It is worth listening too, for
people here on this forum, they covered good ground.

[MAGNES]

SOME REAL CHRISTIAN HISTORY

Kapner gives you key history, Christian History. Just like Mullins. Pound.

Kapner himself mentions, Byzantium, Justinian.



SOME REAL HISTORY

Full of links and related information with real sources, I verify EM's claim.
Eustace Mullins: NEW HISTORY OF THE JEWS (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/eustace-mullins-new-history-of-the-jews/)

Believe it or not this too is directly related, directly. Goldissma called Charles the Great a mason, lol,
one of the greatest enemies of their kind, Charles the Great does the same thing the Irish do here,
along with the Byzantines, I also give University level podcast titles you can find on your own.
HOW THE IRISH SAVED CIVILIZATION (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/how-the-irish-saved-civization/)

[po boy]

Off topic but where in the bible does it say to practice Christmas or Easter. :conf:

[PatColo]

Seems like quite a stretch to think Brother Nathanael is a tool for the Jews just because he doesn't think the quake in Japan was caused by Harp or a nuclear weapon.



in his video above, Kapner's main, and really only, approach to "debunking" the internet rumors swirling that the Japan chain-of-disasters situation is engineered, is the disinfo ploy of RIDICULE. He offers nothing of substance refuting the engineered/weather-warfare rumors, only a bunch of ridicule buzzwords heaped onto those engaging in such conspiracy research & speculation. This is a pretty strong indictment that Kapner's a tool who's being deployed currently to "spend the cred-capital" he's accumulated through past valid criticism of dajooz, on "debunking" (steering people away from) the notions that the Japan situation is something other than an act of God.





Finally, check out the getup he is wearing. Puh-leaze. And check out the long beard. I have long noted that long beards are a VERY BAD sign when religious leaders wear them.

dys


I've bemoaned in the past Kapner's chabad lubavich-style beard; he claims afiliation with Russian Orthodox Christianity, and if you look at photos of those types, Kapner gets a pass on the getup:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=russian+orthodox+priest

[Antonio]

Christianity has been the ultimate Jew tool of control since the very beginning. Google Eli Ravage Case Against Jews. Anyone sporting a beard and a big-ass cross should be shaven and sent to Siberia to be useful.

[DMac]

None are absolute. Take what you can from those on the net that you can verify as truth and move on. I would never forward Kapner's material around to those not already "in the know" due to his comical dress alone. He asks for ridicule in that regard.

In situations like this, you take some leads he gives and do some research on your own.

I'm starting to think, the longer I'm online, is that folks involved in CT research just want to find videos or articles telling them how it is.
(edit to add - you must learn to think for yourself, not be told what to think)


Kapner talks of the Byzantines briefly in this podcast. MAGNES has posted titles to podcasts discussing Byzantium.

Take leads such as these and educate yourselves, don't continue the "I need it in 5 minutes with pretty pictures" mentality that is destroying our various cultures.

[Book]

I'm starting to think, the longer I'm online, is that folks involved in CT research just want to find videos or articles telling them how it is.
(edit to add - you must learn to think for yourself, not be told what to think)



For me it was similar. The usual internet suspects startled me into questioning my MSM/Fox/CBS/NBC reality. Going sane takes at least a year crawling from one false rabbit hole to the next. Every one of those CT guys are selling CDs and DVDs and tee-shirts. In the end they all revealed themselves to be just sharpies making money off our naivete and innocence. Fear sells. Like DMac says...learn to think for yourself.

:)

[dys]

I just listened to exactly 34 minutes of this interview


Dude, you want to talk about disinfo ?

I gave you the benefit of the doubt and still do dys, but your
comments are in a few places, you are no student of history,
nor do you know any history of Western Philosophy or the history
of the Church. You present yourself as knowledgeable yet
have no good information sources yourself nor history
that matters. And you even contribute to arguments that
caused us to research and out key people.

Kapner in the mp3 talks about strategies, what to say,
Zionist, Jew, etc, does it matter, conclusion NO, Jews
will go after you cause of the message alone, they
mention Paul Craig Roberts, very important, his strategy,
I am a student and always pushed his articles and discussed
his changing tone and strategy, this is important , then they
discuss BYZANTIUM AND JUSTINIAN, then then discuss
ABORTION, then they encourage people to look at sources,
name SPLC as liars, connect some dots, openly talk about
degenerate policies openly promoted and indoctrination, ...
openly talks about Ford and his book, and banning Christmas,
great leads for anyone ...

Kapner covered good ground, gave good references, connected the dots,
told everyone that " they must get involved " , just like Plato, if you
are not involved you are an " idiot ", that is where the word comes from.

THIS IS AT 30 MINUTES

EVERYTHING IS WORTH EXPANDING ON

And Dys calls himself a Christian outing disinfo
and tells you " not a good source " .

Right now on this forum there are people promoting satanism.
Totally corrupting key European history and leaders again.
Dys is quiet, he even came in to help them in their arguments,
I just put this down to Dys being ignorant of history and these
matters. But now he is outing Kapner, please.

Hoarder turned gim upside down by posting sections of protocols,
then he went underground, talks about group politics which is key.
On this his comments are not right. It is worth listening too, for
people here on this forum, they covered good ground.





Magnes-

I've always liked and respected you, but this post is totally out of line. First, much of it is ad hominem and not specific to the points I raised. Second, I don't "call" myself a Christian, I AM a Christian. I have never in my life knowingly supported a Satanic agenda. Have I done it out of ignorance? Probably, so has most everyone. Queue the irony chime, as I believe you are doing exactly as you accuse me of doing by supporting Kapner/Nathanial. Now I may not have the extensive knowledge of history as you do, but I assure you that when it comes to the subject of controlled op, especially when it comes to controlled op from a religious angle, I am amply well read. No, I do not always source or support my opinions as you do, it's not really my style; besides, a lot of what I've learned is a blend of personal experience and observation, so links and sources don't perfectly fit what I'm trying to express.
I don't appreciate the insinuation (and maybe I am taking this the wrong way, if so I apologize) that I have some sort of an agenda here. I believe in THE TRUTH and I will express the truth as I know it...popular or in this case, not. If I believe in something, I am certainly not going to use you or anyone else on this forum as the acid test to determine whether or not I am right.
Last thing, I do read your posts and I do at times read your links, but quite honestly Magnes, your style of expression is sometimes difficult to follow for me. This is not a knock as I don't question your intelligence or your knowledge of history, and you have made many great posts, which I commend you for. The bottom line is that we may have clashed a little recently, but it is not personal from my end, not at all. I'm pretty pissed at you for writing your last post, as it appears to me that it IS personal.

dys

[dys]

FYI- I finally heard from Kapner/Nathanial. He gave me a response that requires clarification. I'll keep everyone posted and I'll post the entire exchange between us as soon as he responds again. His response will most certainly either vindicate or expose him...at least from my perspective.

dys

[Antonio]

FYI- I finally heard from Kapner/Nathanial. He gave me a response that requires clarification. I'll keep everyone posted and I'll post the entire exchange between us as soon as he responds again. His response will most certainly either vindicate or expose him...at least from my perspective.

dys


Do what I did, chat with him for a while and then casually drop the fact that most Russian Orthodox Churches in the West are mason-infiltrated and see what he says...

[Awoke]

I dont know how old you are dys but i'm crouding sixty. Had a friend of mine who had a jewish mother and he listened to it with me. this is the most truethful and honest audioss i've listened to. It ain't Bullshit.

No, it's not BS. Controlled op is never BS...it's a mixture of truth and lies.

A couple of questions to ask yourself:

1. Why do they take so long to make their points?
2. Would this interview get any traction with someone that is unaware of the Jewish conspiracy?
3. Did this interview teach you anything you didn't know?

Read between the lines.

dys





1 They are building a foundation for what they are going to say and they are educating people that's why it takes them more time to make their points.

2 they are planting seeds in peoples minds and it takes time for people to start to see the truth they are revealing.

3 No I don't believe I heard anything I hadn't before. What they do is to identify the Jews and what they have been doing for a long time. It takes courage to do that.

What are the lies they told dys?




All I want to say on this is that even though Tumbleweed may not have learned anything new from that interview, 99.9995% of the people out there in the world would.

You can't forget, Dysgenic, that the people here are educated in the conspiracy well above and beyond the levels that what most "conspiracy researchers" are, nevermind the sheep.

[dys]

I've bemoaned in the past Kapner's chabad lubavich-style beard; he claims afiliation with Russian Orthodox Christianity, and if you look at photos of those types, Kapner gets a pass on the getup:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=russian+orthodox+priest


Those pictures that you linked appear to me to be a pretty large indictment of Russian Orthodox Christianity, or at least its leaders. Lots of occultic symbols in there. I also have a theory which I'm sure I'll catch hell for, but keep in mind it's just a theory and I'm not certain of this, that crosses are actually occultic symbols in disguise as opposed to symbolic of God. A few years ago, before I became a Christian, I moved into a new apartment and there was a cross that someone had left. Something didn't feel right about the cross, felt eerie, felt wrong, so I put it away where I couldn't see it. Then I became a Christian and I eventually started to become aware of how compromised and infiltrated the church is. I would discover phony leaders and then expose them. I observed a correlation between the fraudulent leaders and their prolific use of crosses. This ties into Kapner/Nathanael if you watch the peculiar way he wears and handles crosses.

dys

[MAGNES]

I've always liked and respected you,


My entire post is meat, what you yourself tell people to ignore, you are wrong.
What you are doing can apply to everyone and everything, that is not how people
learn. He covers key ground , key issues, where is the disinfo, the guy is eccentric
that is all, I put up the first 30 minutes, now let people judge for themselves.

Also, his website of articles is great, nobody that does research on these matters
gets info from one source, with your reasoning here have easily written off
everyone, not just Kapner, whole websites online, everyone can be dismissed easily,
and they have, as people here post real garbage and even occult stuff you are silent,
yet you attack some real history and at other times ignore key real history, that Kapner
himself even covers above.

I tried to correct you a few times as well.


Your comments about beards makes me laugh, you totally write off half the Christians
in the world, their leaders, they are encouraged to marry, have kids, have families,
you never see them in the news like "the catholics", they have always been target number
one, they have been mass murdered by Jews, their Churches destroyed, very traditional
people, hard to crack for the NWO, they are hated, mocked, smeared, you wrote all those
people off dude.

LAST OFFICE HOLDER OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE
Must watch for any Christian, Westerner, Freedom Lover.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmljeuDBt2g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTyg17HZAvg

[MAGNES]

I've bemoaned in the past Kapner's chabad lubavich-style beard; he claims afiliation with Russian Orthodox Christianity, and if you look at photos of those types, Kapner gets a pass on the getup:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=russian+orthodox+priest


Those pictures that you linked appear to me to be a pretty large indictment of Russian Orthodox Christianity, or at least its leaders. Lots of occultic symbols in there. I also have a theory which I'm sure I'll catch hell for, but keep in mind it's just a theory and I'm not certain of this, that crosses are actually occultic symbols in disguise as opposed to symbolic of God. A few years ago, before I became a Christian, I moved into a new apartment and there was a cross that someone had left. Something didn't feel right about the cross, felt eerie, felt wrong, so I put it away where I couldn't see it. Then I became a Christian and I eventually started to become aware of how compromised and infiltrated the church is. I would discover phony leaders and then expose them. I observed a correlation between the fraudulent leaders and their prolific use of crosses. This ties into Kapner/Nathanael if you watch the peculiar way he wears and handles crosses.

dys



This is rich, you even thank book, learn to think for yourself, that is Plato and Socrates
talking, educating, you call Plato a Mason, get totally refuted, and above you do the same
thing, attacking the greatest enemies of the Jews/NWO, and now crosses are satanic.

The Sun is not Satanic, Sun Rays are not Satanic, nor is the Cross.

Add all this to your previous comments, quite ridiculous.

The Jews that mass murdered the Orthodox Europeans are Satanic.

satanic
http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/the-rolling-stones-sympathy-for-the-devil/msg204984/#msg204984

[MAGNES]

This is a regular Orthodox Priest, conservative, pious, sometimes they wear black hats,
other times not, when someone dies of this faith, usually everyone wears black, to mourn,
the women wear black for years especially if they lose a young one, for life .

Some fucking assholes on gim openly stated to stone these people and me too.

WAOG wanted me stoned. And he was not banned for these comments.

The Jews mass murdered these people by the tens of millions.

http://adamite.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/11427.jpg

[Antonio]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar#Behavior_and_dress

study the Red Cross on a white background symbology, plenty of info on the net. Bro N is truly a brother.

[Awoke]

WAOG wanted me stoned. And he was not banned for these comments.

The Jews mass murdered these people by the tens of millions.


From what I remember about WAoG on GIM, he was always talking in Old Testament terms. He never spoke in New Testament terms, which would be indicative of jewry.

I never had a problem with him personally, but I remember a few times, thinking his posts were a little "off".

[dys]

My entire post is meat, what you yourself tell people to ignore, you are wrong.

What you are doing can apply to everyone and everything, that is not how people
learn. He covers key ground , key issues, where is the disinfo, the guy is eccentric
that is all, I put up the first 30 minutes, now let people judge for themselves.



I've already explained my rationale as to why I believe it's a bad source. You may not agree with it. I am certainly not going to refrain from posting my opinion just because you or anyone else disagrees with me.



Also, his website of articles is great, nobody that does research on these matters
gets info from one source, with your reasoning here have easily written off
everyone, not just Kapner, whole websites online, everyone can be dismissed easily,
and they have, as people here post real garbage and even occult stuff you are silent,
yet you attack some real history and at other times ignore key real history, that Kapner
himself even covers above.

I tried to correct you a few times as well.

I happen to believe that the vast majority of people that claim to be speaking out against the system have sold out (especially true of Jews). I have formed this belief based on research, personal experience, observation, et al. A belief is NOT a fact nor am I claiming that it is. What I try to do generally is to take my prior observations concerning sources that I KNOW have sold out, and use it to extrapolate whether an unknown source is genuine or not. Maybe you don't agree with my method. I believe that my method is very accurate. NOT absolute. Again, I am just a man; certainly capable of error.



Your comments about beards makes me laugh, you totally write off half the Christians
in the world, their leaders, they are encouraged to marry, have kids, have families,
you never see them in the news like "the catholics", they have always been target number
one, they have been mass murdered by Jews, their Churches destroyed, very traditional
people, hard to crack for the NWO, they are hated, mocked, smeared, you wrote all those
people off dude.

No, I do not "write off" Christians, that is a strawman. I believe that beards, especially long beards, are a 'red flag' that often indicates impropriety. I will explain my belief to you in greater detail than I have previously:

Santa Claus has a long beard. Christmas was originally a pagan holiday. Jesus Christ was depicted by the Catholic Church as having a long beard. Did he?
(important note- I don't know for certain whether he did or not, this is just a theory)
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:"
Exodus 20:4
Catholic= kabbalah.
Jews often have long beards.
Most importantly for me- of the religious frauds that I've discovered, a large portion of them have long beards.

dys

[dys]

This is rich, you even thank book,


What do you care who I thank?


learn to think for yourself, that is Plato and Socrates
talking, educating, you call Plato a Mason, get totally refuted, and above you do the same
thing, attacking the greatest enemies of the Jews/NWO, and now crosses are satanic.

Another strawman. I never called Plato a mason. What I said was, "I have long suspected Plato was a mason." Suspect meaning an uncomfirmed notion, an inkling, etc. If you remember correctly, you made an argument about Plato is response to my comment, after which I confessed that it's been a long time since I've read him. I told you I would look into it. BTW, I still plan on doing so.


The Sun is not Satanic, Sun Rays are not Satanic, nor is the Cross.

Sun Rays are now an occultic symbol. In today's world Appolo is a false God that is worshipped by many. Has this always been true? Your assertion on the other thread was that these concepts, from the Greek perspective, have been corrupted and they were not occultic at one time (correct me if I'm mischaracterizing your argument). That assertion doesn't really pass my smell test. Furthermore, it's not all that relevant to me, as what WAS is not germaine to most occultic discussions, rather what IS. I enjoy reading about history, but my experience is that historical perspectives are best taken with a grain of salt. Again, doesn't mean I'm not willing to read your links when and if I have the time or the interest.


The Jews that mass murdered the Orthodox Europeans are Satanic.

Agreed, which is exactly the reason I'm interested in exposing them.

dys

[Bigjon]

Now for a break let me return you to our original program.

http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com/



This is a must listen!!
Revelations by an ex-Jew
http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/mf/play/av6nkx/uglytruthAPR12010brnathanael2.mp3

[dys]

Kapner/Nathanael never got back to me, it's been 6 days (he got back to me on the 2nd day the first time I emailed him). I feel it's safe to say that he failed the test.

"And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."
John 4:3

Now listen, I know that not everyone on this forum is Christian, that's not the point. The point is that K/N purports to be Christian. If he can't pass this test, he is not who he says that he is. If he is not being honest about something that he is representing as being the foundation of his life, can we not infer that he is not truthworthy in general?

dys

[Antonio]

http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=626

Seems like Bro Nat is reading GSUS. This latest video of his is done without the usual strange smile at the end and is pretty tasteful.
If he keeps up this trend, this will be proof that he is here...

[Silver Shield]

Listen to all, follow none, walk your own path the best you can.