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Serpo
24th March 2011, 04:50 PM
No one could make this stuff up as no one would believe them.......


A BRITISH gang leader faces jail for murdering a man whose severed thumb dropped out of the sky, apparently from a bird's beak.

Mohammed Riaz, 33, was convicted in court yesterday of murdering his brother-in-law, Mahmood Ahmad, 41, whose body has never been found.

Riaz waged a campaign of terror against Mr Ahmad and his family after his wife, Nahid, the dead man's younger sister, walked out on him with their children, claiming he had raped her.

He recruited other family members in an attempt to hunt her down as she fled initially to Blackburn and later to Burnley.

She changed her name and even divorced him under Sharia but her former husband then turned his attention to her relatives.

Mr Ahmad was kidnapped outside his home in Watford in March last year as he returned from work at a kebab restaurant in East London.


He was taken to a flat in Ilford, Essex, and tortured in an attempt to force him to disclose Nahid's whereabouts. Mr Ahmad is said to have refused to divulge the secret and paid with his life. His screams were heard by other residents in the flats.

The jury was told that Mr Ahmad's body was dismembered using butcher's tools.

Although Mr Ahmad's disappearance led to a major search it was only after his thumb appeared to fall out of the sky that police were able arrest Riaz and his gang.

CCTV footage of an office car park in Caxton Place, Ilford, captured the moment when the object hit the ground. A cleaner, who had been standing outside the offices smoking a cigarette, thought at first that it was a discarded piece of chicken thrown from an upstairs window.

Stuart Trimmer, QC, for the prosecution, told the court: "There is a CCTV image of this item falling from the sky because that is what happened. How it came to be in the sky is unknown. It fell from the sky and fell into a car park."

Detectives believe that the thumb, cut cleanly by a bandsaw, was found by a bird that flew off with it in its beak.

When police realised that the thumb belonged to Mr Ahmad, they searched local landfill sites and even studied flight paths of local bird colonies.

Forensic officers were later able to link bloodstains found at the flat in Ilford with Mr Mahmood's DNA.

Riaz, of no fixed address, and his brother Sharif Mohammed, 37, of Ilford, were both convicted of murder. Faisal Chowdhury, 18, and Arnold Yousaf, 19, both of East London, were convicted of conspiracy to kidnap and Amirzada Hussain, 37, of East London, was found guilty of manslaughter.

Sabra Sultana, 36, Riaz's sister, of Ilford, was convicted of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.

Police said that they are determined to find Mr Ahmad's remains so that his family can give him a dignified burial.

Detective Chief Inspector Melanie Burn appealed for information about the whereabouts of the rest of Mr Ahmad's body.

She said: "This has been a challenging case, not least because we have been unable to locate Mahmood's body. Our search to find Mahmood continues and we will not give up in the hunt to repatriate him to his family."

The Timeshttp://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/british-man-jailed-for-murder-after-bird-drops-mans-thumb/story-e6frg6so-1226027442723

mightymanx
24th March 2011, 05:12 PM
It's a good thing there are no guns in the UK all those icky crimes went away a long time ago. :oo-->

gunDriller
24th March 2011, 05:14 PM
No one could make this stuff up as no one would believe them.......

The jury was told that Mr Ahmad's body was dismembered using butcher's tools.

Although Mr Ahmad's disappearance led to a major search it was only after his thumb appeared to fall out of the sky that police were able arrest Riaz and his gang.


it's important to use the right tool for the job.

the Closer would say, the use of butcher's tools clearly indicates pre-meditation.

but that damn bird ! totally screwing up the nearly "perfect" crime.

if there is business school for criminals (Israel ? the ADL of B'nai B'rith ?), they will have to include this as a case study.

(no, i'm not saying this crime was performed by Talmud-worshippers - just that Talmud-worshippers can learn from it).

the moral of the story is - if you're going to bury a body, you have to bury it deeply enough so that animals can't dig up the parts.

mike88
24th March 2011, 10:16 PM
should have served the body up at the kebab stand and made a couple of pounds. f'in amatures................

Glass
25th March 2011, 01:01 AM
should have served the body up at the kebab stand and made a couple of pounds. f'in amatures................


It's probably what they did with the rest of him.

gunDriller
25th March 2011, 06:27 AM
so, what's the bird's name - Lorena ?

SLV^GLD
25th March 2011, 06:29 AM
Totally unrelated:

A few years ago on a rather large construction site the safety officers were on their way from the office to the site when a fingertip came flying over the fence and bounced off one of the officer's hardhat. After some speculation and pontificating we determined that someone had injured themselves and in order to avoid the inevitable drug test or other reprimand they had attempted to dispose of the evidence. Their timing could not have been worse. Interestingly enough, it took several days before the injured man was spotted with his hand wrapped. When questioned about the incident he denied that the injury happened on the job. Since the work was being performed on a hospital campus the fingertip had been preserved in the hospital and tests conclusively proved the fingertip belonged to him. He was fired on the spot for non-reporting which probably saved him the disgrace of being violated with a drug test.

Walter Mitty
25th March 2011, 08:43 AM
It's not called the religion of piece for no reason. Piece, Piece, Piece to all says the Prophet.