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freespirit
26th March 2011, 10:01 AM
buckle up kids, this is gonna get interesting.....

OTTAWA - The federal election is set for May 2 and it's shaping up to be a campaign battle from C to C — coalition to contempt.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced the date at Rideau Hall today and immediately made it clear he wants a majority to stave off a "reckless opposition coalition."

Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff moved to blunt that line of attack, vowing not to form any coalition with the NDP or Bloc Quebecois and warning that the real danger is Harper's contempt for democracy.

"The Harper Winter will soon be over," he said. "For the first time in our history, a prime minister was found guilty by the House of Commons of contempt for our parliamentary institutions and that's why we're having an election.

"We will be asking Canadians to choose between a prime minister that shows scant respect for our institutions and a Liberal team that believes profoundly that the first thing you expect of a government is respect for democratic principles."

However, Harper said the Liberals can't be trusted to keep their word on the coalition.

"Their record is clear," he said. "Deny it in an election, then do it afterward."

He said an opposition coalition would be a danger to the economy and the country.

"Imagine a coalition of arch-centralists and Quebec sovereigntists trying to work together. The only thing they'll be able to agree on is to spend more money and to raise taxes to pay for it."

That alarmist talk was scoffed at by Bloc Leader Gilles Duceppe, who noted that Harper was eager in 2004 to replace Paul Martin's minority Liberals with a Tory government backed by the NDP and Bloc. Harper signed a letter with Duceppe and NDP Leader Jack Layton at the time, asking the Governor General to "consult the opposition leaders and consider all of your options" before agreeing to call an election.

"He lied this morning," Duceppe said of the prime minister.

Duceppe revelled in the details of his meeting with Harper in 2004 at the Delta Hotel in Montreal.

"He was coming in my office saying, 'If Martin is going to lose confidence, what do you want in the throne speech? What would you like in the budget?'" Duceppe recalled.

The rhetoric follows a historic vote in the House of Commons on Friday. MPs voted 156-145 in favour of a Liberal motion expressing non-confidence and citing the Harper government for contempt of Parliament — a first for a national government anywhere in the Commonwealth.

Harper and other Tories defended this week's federal budget as a responsible plan during a fragile economic recovery and warned about the "irresponsible" effects of an "unnecessary" election. However, the stock market rose Friday and at least one expert dismissed any economic impact.

Don Drummond, chief economist at TD Bank Financial Group and a former top Finance Department official, rattled off five reasons why a federal election poses virtually no threat to the economy.

Harper is expected to campaign on the budget, which was laden with tightly targeted tax credits and riding-specific goodies, while simultaneously accusing his opponents of plotting to subvert the will of the electorate should the Conservatives fail to add 12 Tory seats and win their coveted majority.

The opposition parties have already begun pounding home their campaign message, slamming the prime minister as a secretive leader who abuses power and leads a government plagued by scandal.

In the past month, the Conservative party and four of its top officials have been charged with election overspending and two RCMP investigations have been launched against former political staffers.

http://news.ca.msn.com/federal-election-2011/cp-article.aspx?cp-documentid=28138737

keehah
26th March 2011, 10:10 AM
buckle up kids, this is gonna get interesting.....



Interesting? Perhaps if you want to support a local independent candidate talk about real issues at a fringe or two. If you go as far as questioning 9/11 you will be dismissed. You may get passing mention in the state sponsored media (SSM) that you are a crazy hater.

For leaders (what the SSM election coverage focuses on) choose from:

1. Born again Israel before Canada Zionist controlled Christian Psychopath.
2. Tired Russian Nobility via Harvard.
3. Union and 70's Socialism Sideshow.
4. Green Party Patsy. Pro NWO but no longer green.

Oh and BTW how many times have we done this now with the same cast of characters?

freespirit
26th March 2011, 10:26 AM
i agree with you keehah, this is a road we've been down before with no real success.

by interesting i meant that given all the turmoil and upheaval all over the world, canada having an election while we are supporting another US fiasco and dropping bombs on libya, to say the least, may not be a good thing. this could very well be the start of some very bad political moves in canada...

don't get me wrong, harper's GTFG (got to f*cking go), but ignatief is no better (i know, i know...same old story) but what do you think would be an acceptable alternative? we will, once again, have to choose the lesser of evils presented, and we're gonna get fucked either way. a lesser evil is still evil.

steyr_m
26th March 2011, 12:27 PM
i agree with you keehah, this is a road we've been down before with no real success.

by interesting i meant that given all the turmoil and upheaval all over the world, canada having an election while we are supporting another US fiasco and dropping bombs on libya, to say the least, may not be a good thing. this could very well be the start of some very bad political moves in canada...

don't get me wrong, harper's GTFG (got to f*cking go), but ignatief is no better (i know, i know...same old story) but what do you think would be an acceptable alternative? we will, once again, have to choose the lesser of evils presented, and we're gonna get fucked either way. a lesser evil is still evil.

I don't mind Harper much. At least he followed through with his campaign promises. I think an added bonus will be that the Conservatives will probably end up with a majority govt. and will pass scrapping the Firearms registration.

I don't care for Harper's foreign policy. Why are we in Libya? Iggy would have probably done the same.

keehah
26th March 2011, 12:59 PM
We even have a Canadian General in charge of the war to overthrow Libya. How nice to have Israel mentor us on the more modern advanced ways of world piece. Which are exactly like the old empire ways of going to war, bomb and attack and put your guy in power. The only difference is like the USA, Canada is now more like an infected drone for another's agenda.

freespirit
26th March 2011, 02:34 PM
harper has become nothing more than a lap dog for the united states and israel, and that in itself is enough for me to say he has GTFG. but i reiterate, ignatief is no prize either, so where does that leave us?

steyr_m
26th March 2011, 03:30 PM
harper has become nothing more than a lap dog for the united states and israel, and that in itself is enough for me to say he has GTFG. but i reiterate, ignatief is no prize either, so where does that leave us?


Iggy and Jack Layton (I wonder if his middle name starts with "U") would do the same. The puppet-master pulling the O-man's strings will give either of them a call and tell him what to do.

freespirit
26th March 2011, 03:44 PM
i just can't ignore the feeling i get in the pit of my stomach thinking about this, i have a bad feeling about the aftermath of this election...just cant quite put my finger on it yet...

keehah
27th March 2011, 02:26 PM
Perhaps part of the reason we were allowed an election this time.

Who went deeper?
Iggy, the wise and weary prostitute? Or Harper the eager lost soldier?

Well Harper of course, but Iggy is advertising his old blood dominatrix ideas.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/03/10/canada-%E2%80%98will-always-stand-by%E2%80%99-israel-harper-says/

Opponents who say that Canada has “lost its way” when it comes to its foreign policy are using “code for the view that Canada should go back to being ambivalent about our relationship with Israel and its fundamental right to defend itself,” Mr. Harper said. “Our party will never do that. We will always stand by [Israel].”

Both he and the Liberal leader addressed a sold-out crowd of 1,000 at the event hosted by the Canadian Jewish Political Affairs Committee. It was held at the Royal Conservatory of Music.

The Liberals have a long association with the Canadian Jewish community and, as a defender of Israel, “does not do code,” said Mr. Ignatieff.

“I disagree with Mr. Harper about just about everything,” he said. “We have plenty to disagree upon. We have plenty we can use to run an election campaign on. Let us not run an election campaign on who’s the better support of the state of Israel,” he said.

Both Mr. Harper and Mr. Ignatieff decried anti-Semitism on Canadian campuses, which the Prime Minister said has gained a disturbing foothold in the country’s universities in the form of Israeli Apartheid Week and had become increasingly sophisticated and “intellectually acceptable.”

“This is the time to reaffirm that it is permissible to criticize the state of Israel, but it is impermissible to compare it to South Africa,” Mr. Ignatieff said...

Canada will be “vigilant” in watching the unfolding turmoil in the Middle East, Mr. Harper said, while Mr. Ignatieff said Canada should reaffirm its commitment to Israel’s security and become a global leader in the fight against Middle Eastern dictatorships [resistance to world fiat bank gang], like that of Iran’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi.

Threats against the Jewish people and the state of Israel represent threats against Canadian values of freedom and democracy, Mr. Harper said.

“We must be relentless, relentless and uncompromising in exposing this anti-Semitism for what it is,” he said.

I hope the wanna-be Czar decrees this information as permissible:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/23/israel-south-africa-nuclear-weapons

The "top secret" minutes of meetings between senior officials from the two countries in 1975 show that South Africa's defence minister, PW Botha, asked for the warheads and Shimon Peres, then Israel's defence minister and now its president, responded by offering them "in three sizes". The two men also signed a broad-ranging agreement governing military ties between the two countries that included a clause declaring that "the very existence of this agreement" was to remain secret.

Ash_Williams
27th March 2011, 05:24 PM
I told the opposition candidates that I was so sick of fucking elections that I'd go against all I hold dear and vote conservative if they forced one.

Normally I'd vote libertarian if possible, and least-offensive small party if not.

keehah
22nd August 2011, 06:27 AM
For leaders (what the SSM election coverage focuses on) choose from:

1. Born again Israel before Canada Zionist controlled 'Christian' Psychopath.
2. Tired Russian Nobility via Harvard.
3. Union and 70's Socialism Sideshow.
4. Green Party Patsy. Pro NWO but no longer green.

Oh and BTW how many times have we done this now with the same cast of characters?

So much for the sideshow, which was doing quite well.

Canadian Opposition Leader Dies

August 22, 2010: Jack Layton dead at 61 after bout with cancer (http://www.canada.com/Jack+Layton+dead+after+bout+with+cancer/5288307/story.html#ixzz1VlQksoY5)

Layton was just 61 when he was felled Monday by an unidentified but aggressive cancer that took hold this summer following a battle last year with the same disease in his prostate.

The latest diagnosis came in mid-July, barely a month after Layton and his wife Olivia Chow, a fellow NDP MP from Toronto, had made their historic move into Stornoway, the official Ottawa residence of the country's Opposition leader.

No social democrat had ever occupied the place (or even come close to doing so), and Layton's arrival there on June 15 raised hopes among the NDP faithful that even greater achievements awaited the party under his leadership.

But by the time a thin and weary-looking Layton revealed on July 25 he'd been stricken by a second cancer, and that he would require a leave-of-absence to fight the illness "so I can be back to fight for families when Parliament resumes" in September, there were widespread doubts he'd be able to fulfil that promise or to direct his party's ultimate quest: becoming Canada's government in a future election.

Terry853
22nd August 2011, 08:17 AM
As a westerner I was impressed with the election results. The Quebec BLOC is gone, the libtartds are much reduced and it is the conservatives turn. The lizard Ignatiev was never a real Canadian so the libs got what has been long overdue. The NDP got to where they are because of Smiling Jack, who does seem to be a nice guy, for a socialist. The war in Libya is total bullshit and we should not be involved in the totally corrupt bullshit there. Meanwhile we as Canadians wait for America to fall in the tank so that we can fall in on top of them. Interesting times..