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AndreaGail
27th March 2011, 11:50 AM
Unpaid jobs: The new normal?
March 25, 2011 12:33 pm


While businesses are generally wary of the risks of using unpaid labor, companies that have used free workers say it can pay off when done right.

By Katherine Reynolds Lewis, contributor

FORTUNE -- With nearly 14 million unemployed workers in America, many have gotten so desperate that they're willing to work for free. While some businesses are wary of the legal risks and supervision such an arrangement might require, companies that have used free workers say it can pay off when done right.

"People who work for free are far hungrier than anybody who has a salary, so they're going to outperform, they're going to try to please, they're going to be creative," says Kelly Fallis, chief executive of Remote Stylist, a Toronto and New York-based startup that provides Web-based interior design services. "From a cost savings perspective, to get something off the ground, it's huge. Especially if you're a small business."

In the last three years, Fallis has used about 50 unpaid interns for duties in marketing, editorial, advertising, sales, account management and public relations. She's convinced it's the wave of the future in human resources. "Ten years from now, this is going to be the norm," she says.
Why do people work for free?

The benefit unpaid labor offers to a business is pretty clear, but it can also give employees needed experience, a reference letter or even a self-esteem boost in a depressing economy.
Cassie Johnson, a 27-year old in San Marcos, Calif., lost her job as an enrollment adviser for an online university in 2009 and was receiving unemployment benefits for a year before finding an assistant manager position at a Starbucks (SBUX) that's so far from her home she spends most of her pay on gas. Since starting a public relations internship in February, she feels a renewed sense of purpose.

"I'm learning a lot and I feel really good about it. I'm happy. I feel relevant. I'm not making any money, so it's tough, but I feel it's setting me up for a career," Johnson says. "I only have $1.50 left in my checking account right now but I'm living with my boyfriend and he's been really good about supporting me."Sometimes, gratis work can even lead directly to a paid opportunity. Theresa Potter had been a marketing executive for 30 years when, during a career lull, she agreed to work on a few marketing initiatives for free at Coalescence, a Columbus, Ohio-based custom spice blending firm.

"You have amassed a lot of this information and you like to share it. You like to see companies become successful," Potter says.

Potter's year of volunteering at Coalescence paid off when the company's founders asked her to take the reins as president -- a salaried position. She felt comfortable taking the job because she'd become so familiar with the corporate culture and business goals.

But is it legal?

Unfortunately for many employers hoping to use unpaid labor to advance their business goals, there are strict federal and state rules that workers must be paid the minimum wage and paid for overtime, and must abide by other provisions in the Fair Labor Standards Act, which applies to about 135 million people working for 7.3 million employers. The FLSA doesn't apply to companies with less than $500,000 in annual revenue unless they engage in interstate commerce -- which can be as little as accepting credit cards or placing phone calls to another state.

"We don't have a system in this country where you can work for free," says Jay A. Zweig, a partner who works in employment law at Bryan Cave in Phoenix. "The exceptions are very, very rare, and generally there are state laws that would fill in to say that, unless you meet specific criteria, you're going to get in trouble with the government."

Unless someone is an intern, trainee or independent contractor, he or she has entered into an employment relationship when starting to work for a company. Federal and state authorities are alert for employers who may be taking advantage of the tight job market to skirt the rules.

The Labor Department has a strict six-point test to determine whether someone is an intern or trainee and separate guidelines for independent contractors. An internship must primarily benefit the intern, who must work under close supervision and not displace existing staff. Independent contractors cannot work under the control of the employer or be economically dependent on the firm.

"If a person has entered into an employment relationship with a company, they need to be paid for their work," a U.S. Labor Department spokesperson says. "We stepped up enforcement to ensure these businesses are complying with FLSA. We've hired an additional 250 investigators."

With the additional federal scrutiny, unpaid arrangements such as auditions or tryouts are even less likely to pass muster than in the past, says John Thompson, a partner at employment law firm Fisher & Phillips in Atlanta.

"A lot of employers don't get that the law is not about personal responsibility or agreements between consenting adults; it's about getting the pay to people as the law requires," Thompson says.

Companies that are found violating the law will likely have to provide back pay, monetary penalties up to $1,100 per violation and damages that equal the amount of wages, Thompson says.

The challenges of hiring and managing modern day serfs

Like others who have used unpaid labor, Remote Stylist's Kelly Fallis recommends beginning with a very specific job description and conducting a thorough hiring process to screen out people who aren't going to give their all for nothing.

Candidates who respond to Fallis' postings on Craigslist and Facebook must fill out a detailed email questionnaire and undergo two rounds of phone interviews and three in-person interviews.

Those who join Remote Stylist, whether they are students or out-of-work 20- or 30-somethings, must agree to a four-month run and sign a hiring contract. She asks interns to commit 30 hours a week; she has been burned in the past by people who were trying to juggle a paid job with their commitment to Remote Stylist.

Believe it or not, the competition for some unpaid gigs can grow intense. John Lovejoy, managing director of multimedia fundraising company Nomadic Nation, received 300 responses for an editor position and 700 cameraman applications after only one week of advertising a project to drive from Germany to Cambodia in plastic cars. Not only were the positions unpaid, but successful candidates had to pay their own expenses.

One editor and two cameramen ended up quitting before the end of the trek due to rough conditions and 16-hour workdays. In retrospect, Lovejoy says, "I would screen a little bit better and make sure they understood that this wasn't a vacation."

Crystal Green, owner of Tallahassee-based event planning firm Your Social Butterfly, has had mixed results with unpaid staffers who didn't take their responsibilities seriously. She's even had to retrace the missteps of unpaid staffers and apologize to alienated business partners.

"It's really hard as a single entrepreneur to babysit these people who need to learn. They're not making any money, so you have to be very patient," Green says.

None of these employers said they were concerned that they were violating the law -- whether or not they actually are -- but most get what they pay for, raising the question of whether they'd be better off just going with the time-honored tradition of paying employees.

"It's better to have one decently paid person than nine unpaid people who are making it so difficult because they're slacking off or they're difficult to manage," Green says.


http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2011/03/25/unpaid-jobs-the-new-normal/

po boy
27th March 2011, 12:09 PM
"Work to learn not to earn".

Ponce
27th March 2011, 12:52 PM
Back in 1998 after selling my company I wanted to make my fiber glass flying boat, the first thing that I did was to offer myself as an emplyee for free in order to learn how to work with fiber glass.....at the end of three months I was ready to leave but the owners wanted to hire me as a supervisor because the current one was about to retired........most of the employees were illegals and he needed someone who spoke Spanish..............it was for a good pay but I was retired.

PS: Made my flying boat that I sold for $25,000 and the IDEA for the it for $100,000.........it was only ten feet long, wings 12 feet and only for one person.......range of 450 miles....weight of 250 lbs.......it didn't actually fly but rather traveled on a cushion of air six feet above the water, this idea is dated to 1918 but my way was unique.

gunDriller
27th March 2011, 02:33 PM
looks like the Talmud Worshippers have contrived a new form of slavery.

of course, i always thought of Silicon Valley venture/vulture capitalists as being engaged in a form of slavery. but they don't like it if you say that to their face :o

Spectrism
27th March 2011, 03:06 PM
And that greedy witch acts like she is doing the interns (not employees) a favor!

Unfortunately, this is becoming the measurement of the value placed on workers.

keehah
27th March 2011, 03:14 PM
Worse than slavery.
Slaves are clothed, housed and fed.

Ponce
27th March 2011, 03:16 PM
Well Gun, that to me means that going to school as a kid was also a form of "slavery"..... even learning has a value if you know that with your new knowledge you will be able to make a good living.

If I knew 50 years ago what I know now I would by now be a trillionair.......to me it was not about making money but rather the fun that I was havng while making money........the state of mind of most people is all about making money in order to be able to exist (they created their own prison) and that's what will make you into a slave of the system.

To have "more" does not mean that you will live better or be happier.........always remember that your real world is in your own mind because that's the one that you created......yours truly......Father Ponce ::)

Spec and Kee?.......it all depends if you see the glass half empty or half full.

po boy
27th March 2011, 03:24 PM
What is wrong with learning a skill without pay? Hell isn't that what education is?

I found my first job asking for less than others got my foot in the door and when layoffs came I still had work and a raise to boot.

I think Ponce gave a good example. Hire yourself a job there is nothing new about this concept.

I think most remember how hard it was to find the 1st job with no real world experience.

Twisted Titan
27th March 2011, 03:45 PM
I've worked for "free" in Electrical

Alot of my class mates balked when I told them that i did but I wanst the least bit dismayed

Now that we are coming to the end of Program I have something a good many of them do not

WORKING EXPERINCE IN THE FEILD.

Not only that but having worked along side This Electrician gave him the confidence to allow me to use him as a personal refrence ( having the right person to call in a favor is absoultely instrumental )

And last but not least I didnt work for free. On several of the jobs I did He allowed me to keep the "scrap" cable I have some where north of 20-30 lbs of High Grade Copper.

Thats a handsome payday indeed and it ( like silver) only gets more valuable


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SLV^GLD
27th March 2011, 03:59 PM
Worse than slavery.
Slaves are clothed, housed and fed.
Chinese sweatshop workers are clothed, housed and fed in recompense (within the factory). They may get a pittance more for their pocket. What goes around comes around.

madfranks
27th March 2011, 06:25 PM
http://mises.org/daily/4547


Work for Free

Mises Daily: Monday, July 05, 2010 by Jeffrey A. Tucker

With young people nearly shut out of the market (by recession, regulation, "child" labor laws, and ghastly minimum wage laws), I would like to suggest the unthinkable: young people should work for free wherever they can and whenever they can. The reason is to acquire a good reputation and earn a good recommendation. A person who will give you a positive reference on demand is worth gold, and certainly far more than the money you might otherwise earn.

Many of the essays in my book Bourbon for Breakfast turn out to have forecasted both the current mess and this solution. But first let me tell a story of two cases in point, the first an example of the worst possible kind of worker, and the second an example of brilliant foresight.

The first case comes from a job I had in my teens. I was standing around with a few other employees in a clothing shop. The boss walked by and said to my coworker: "Please straighten these ties on this table." My coworker waited until the boss walked away, and then he muttered under his breath: "I'm not doing that for minimum wage."

That comment seared right through me, and I thought about it a very long time. The worker was effectively asking for money up front before working, even though he was employed to do things like straighten ties. This was even worse than insubordination. He had this idea that the value he contributes to the firm should never exceed the value of the money he is earning in money. If that must be true, one wonders why anyone should ever hire him.

The goal of every employer is to gain more value from workers than the firm pays out in wages; otherwise, there is no growth, no advance, and no advantage for the employer. Conversely, the goal of every employee should be to contribute more to the firm than he or she receives in wages, and thereby provide a solid rationale for receiving raises and advancement in the firm.

More at link...

dys
27th March 2011, 10:52 PM
I've spent a lot of time perusing the various unemployment forums out there, and I've seen the following story a million times:

I graduated from college and couldn't find a job, so I decided to take an unpaid internship at XYZ company. They promised me that if I did a good job, there would be a permanent position for me after 6 months. They worked me like a dog, required overtime and take home work, etc...and then at the end of 6 months they told me they had nothing for me. They gave me a letter of reference and offered great personal references, so my performance wasn't the reason. I heard through the grapevine that they bring new interns on every 6 months, promising all of them the same exact thing. What do I do now?

dys

po boy
28th March 2011, 12:02 AM
I've spent a lot of time perusing the various unemployment forums out there, and I've seen the following story a million times:

I graduated from college and couldn't find a job, so I decided to take an unpaid internship at XYZ company. They promised me that if I did a good job, there would be a permanent position for me after 6 months. They worked me like a dog, required overtime and take home work, etc...and then at the end of 6 months they told me they had nothing for me. They gave me a letter of reference and offered great personal references, so my performance wasn't the reason. I heard through the grapevine that they bring new interns on every 6 months, promising all of them the same exact thing. What do I do now?

dys


I have personal sad stories for days much worse that that.Maybe that's why I drink.
Aside from my whining the person has got a good reference and a letter along with real world experience that is worth something take it and put it to use. That person received something an education and painful it maybe but an education none the less. Is it right to treat people that way? Life isn't always fair but what do you do cash in the chips?

Road Runner
28th March 2011, 03:18 AM
We owned a cattle/horse sale barn starting back in 1985. One day the yard foreman came in and told us there was a kid fresh out of high school that wanted a job with us. We told them we didn't need more help and just couldn't hire anyone else. The whole next week my husband noticed that that kid who wanted a job was out hauling hay and doing the work at the sale barn with all the other guys. My husband went to the yard foreman and said " I thought I told you that we couldn't hire anymore help right now, and he replied I know that and I told him but he doesn't have a job and can't stand sitting around so he asked if he could just come help us for free for something to do. My husband came and told me that we were going to hire that kid, if a kid was that ambitious & would work for free because he had time on his hands he would make a good employee. We paid him for the week he had worked and hired him on. He was with us for the 10 years we owned the business. That kid now has a place of his own, he actually lives out in our territory with a wonderful wife and children.

Santa
28th March 2011, 04:35 AM
Crystal Green, owner of Tallahassee-based event planning firm Your Social Butterfly, has had mixed results with unpaid staffers who didn't take their responsibilities seriously. She's even had to retrace the missteps of unpaid staffers and apologize to alienated business partners.

"It's really hard as a single entrepreneur to babysit these people who need to learn. They're not making any money, so you have to be very patient," Green says.


This is hubris mixed with an entitlement mentality.

BrewTech
28th March 2011, 06:41 AM
Crystal Green, owner of Tallahassee-based event planning firm Your Social Butterfly, has had mixed results with unpaid staffers who didn't take their responsibilities seriously. She's even had to retrace the missteps of unpaid staffers and apologize to alienated business partners.

"It's really hard as a single entrepreneur to babysit these people who need to learn. They're not making any money, so you have to be very patient," Green says.


This is hubris mixed with an entitlement mentality.




Trying to find decent slave labor these days is a bitch! Poor girl. Maybe it's time for her to move from "babysitting" to "waterboarding"...

I'll admit I can relate to the idea of working for free just to have something to do, as well as for the purpose of keeping one's skills fresh or learning new ones. It's amazing how one's perspective changes as the time spent jobless increases.

Santa
28th March 2011, 07:38 AM
Crystal Green, owner of Tallahassee-based event planning firm Your Social Butterfly, has had mixed results with unpaid staffers who didn't take their responsibilities seriously. She's even had to retrace the missteps of unpaid staffers and apologize to alienated business partners.

"It's really hard as a single entrepreneur to babysit these people who need to learn. They're not making any money, so you have to be very patient," Green says.


This is hubris mixed with an entitlement mentality.




Trying to find decent slave labor these days is a bitch! Poor girl. Maybe it's time for her to move from "babysitting" to "waterboarding"...

I'll admit I can relate to the idea of working for free just to have something to do, as well as for the purpose of keeping one's skills fresh or learning new ones. It's amazing how one's perspective changes as the time spent jobless increases.


Little Crystal, a social planner for a firm called "Your Social Butterfly"... :oo--> For her sake, I hope she at least has a pert little ass for when she becomes unemployed
in a few months. :o