Jesus healed using cannabis, study shows

[Serpo]

Editor’s note: To some, this information will seem blasphemous. Please note that Cannabis is an ancient herbal remedy and has only recently been considered a street drug. Until 1942, cannabis was included in the US Pharmacopoeia. We are not saying Jesus depended on herbs to heal, but the facts seem to show that He did indeed utilize them.


Updated 01.18.10
Jesus was almost certainly a cannabis user and an early proponent of the medicinal properties of the drug, according to a study of scriptural texts published [in 2003].

The study suggests that Jesus and his disciples used the drug to carry out miraculous healings. The anointing oil used by Jesus and his disciples contained an ingredient called kaneh-bosem which has since been identified as cannabis extract, according to an article by Chris Bennett [reprinted here].

The incense used by Jesus in ceremonies also contained a cannabis extract, suggests Mr Bennett, who quotes scholars to back his claims. “There can be little doubt about a role for cannabis in Judaic religion,” Carl Ruck, professor of classical mythology at Boston University said. Referring to the existence of cannabis in anointing oils used in ceremonies, he added: “Obviously the easy availability and long-established tradition of cannabis in early Judaism would inevitably have included it in the [Christian] mixtures.”

Mr Bennett suggests those anointed with the oils used by Jesus were “literally drenched in this potent mixture …. Although most modern people choose to smoke or eat pot, when its active ingredients are transferred into an oil-based carrier, it can also be absorbed through the skin”.

Quoting the New Testament, Mr Bennett argues that Jesus anointed his disciples with the oil and encouraged them to do the same with other followers. This could have been responsible for healing eye and skin diseases referred to in the Gospels. “If cannabis was one of the main ingredients of the ancient anointing oil and receiving this oil is what made Jesus the Christ and his followers Christians, then persecuting those who use cannabis could be considered anti-Christ,” Mr Bennett concludes. (Source: Gaurdian.co.uk)

Bennet isn’t alone in his assertions…

“According to some scholars, cannabis was an ingredient of holy anointing oil mentioned in various sacred Hebrew texts. The herb of interest is most commonly known as kaneh-bosm (קְנֵה-בֹשֶׂם) (the singular form of which would be kaneh-bos) which is mentioned several times in the Old Testament as a bartering material, incense, and an ingredient in holy anointing oil used by the high priest of the temple.

The Septuagint translates kaneh-bosm as calamus, and this translation has been propagated unchanged to most later translations of the old testament. However, Polish anthropologist Sula Benet published etymological arguments that the Aramaic word for hemp can be read as kannabos and appears to be a cognate to the modern word ‘cannabis’, with the root kan meaning “reed” or hemp and bosm meaning “fragrant”.

Both cannabis and calamus are fragrant, reedlike plants containing psychotropic compounds. Rabbinical scholars appear to be divided on the subject; some reject the cannabis hypothesis and others affirm it.” (Source: Wikipedia – Religious and spiritual use of cannabis)

Cannabis vs. calamus:

Debate over the translation of kaneh-bosem


Cannabis

Sara Benetowa discovered that the Kaneh-Bosm or Cannabis is mentioned 5 times in the Old Testament. The first occurrence appears in the Holy Anointing Oil as Calamus, (Exodus 30:23). Sara argued that the translation of Calamus was a mistranslation which occurred in the oldest Bible the “Septuagint” and the mistranslation was copied in later versions.”

“If you actually buy the Calamus translation for the Holy Oil, then you assume that God specified in Exodus 30:23 a drug commonly known as herbal Ecstasy. Calamus contains an ingredient called asarone. This is a hallucinogen which is metabolized in the liver as trimethoxyamphetamine which is known as herbal ecstasy. The Middle Eastern version of this plant is far more toxic than its North American Cousin. This is deadly to flies and other insects.

The Exodus 30:23 reference refers to sweet Calamus. If you look at this in the Strong’s concordance where they spell this as qaneh rather than kaneh, they pronounce this as Kaw-Naw, a reed, calamus, and cane are listed as possible translations. The term sweet used in Exodus 30:23 in Hebrew is Bosem. According to the Webster’s New World Hebrew Dictionary, Bosem is perfume; scent. The Concordance: the Hebrew is Bosem #1314, fragrance, by impl. spicery; also the balsam plant:—-smell, spice, sweet (odour).

In some Bibles sweet calamus is translated as aromatic or fragrant Cane. It is where the bosem is fused to the word kaneh or qaneh that the cannabis translation becomes apparent. So then to pronounce this we have kaw-naw-bosem, and is spelled in English qaneh-bosem or kaneh-bosem.

In 1936, Sara Benetowa, later Known as Sula Benet, an etymologist from the Institute of Anthropological Sciences, in Warsaw wrote a treatise, “Tracing One Word Through Different Languages”. This was a study on the word Cannabis, based on a study of the oldest Hebrew texts. Although the word cannabis was thought to be of Scythian origin, Benet’s research showed it had an earlier root in the Semitic Languages such as Hebrew. Benet demonstrated that the ancient Hebrew word for Cannabis is Kaneh -Bosem.

She also did another study called Early Diffusion and Folk Uses of Hemp. On page 44, she states, “The sacred character of hemp in biblical times is evident from Exodus 30:23, where Moses was instructed by God to anoint the meeting tent and all of its furnishings with specially prepared oil, containing hemp.”

On page 41 Sula Benet writes, “In the course of time, the two words kaneh and bosem were fused into one , kanabos or kannabus know to us from the Mishna”. According to the Webster’s New World Hebrew Dictionary, page 607 the Hebrew for hemp is kanabos. (Source)

From “Thinking Baptists” The Holy Annointing Oil

In 1980, a wave of interest in Benet’s work prompted numerous etymologists to agree with Benet’s reinterpretation of the word qaneh-bosm in Exodus. That year, scholars at Jerusalem Hebrew University confirmed her work, noting that the qaneh-bosm was mistranslated in the King James version of Exodus 30:23 as calamus (Latimer, 1988). That same year, Weston La Barre also confirmed Benet’s work, noting further that “the term kaneh-bosm occurs as early as both the Aramaic and the Hebrew versions of the Old Testament, hemp being used for rope in Solomon’s temple and in priestly robes, as well as carried in Biblical caravans”.

More Archaeological Evidence Source

A recent archeological expedition to Israel uncovered scrolls that appear to depict the story of Jesus’ crucifixion. On one of the scrolls is a sketch that shows a man, thought to be Jesus, smoking from a pipe. Below the drawing is the Hebrew word “kineboisin”, which translates to cannabis.

Dr. Isaac Cohen, president of the South Israel Archaeological Society, believes that this is an extremely significant discovery for the theological community. He described the discovery as “a finding that could change the way many perceive the world.” Cannabis is known to have been smoked thousands of years before Jesus’ time, but this is the first evidence to show that Jesus himself may have used the plant.

Not only could this mean that Christian fundamentalist may ease up on their firm stance against the use of marijuana, but they may actually begin to promote its use for an enhanced religious experience. It is the Christian belief that Christ’s followers should emulate him. If Jesus smoked weed, then why shouldn’t everyone else? [Editor's note: Normally we like to reference the original study, we are still looking for it.]



Reverend Tom Brown shows the healing power of the Holy Anointing Cannabis Oil. Tom is helping Jack Herer, who has diabetes. This recipe comes directly from the Bible. The old measures have been substituted with modern measure (see below).

Editor’s note: I was lucky enough to meet the man videotaping this piece. He was given some of the oil and happened to have it with him. Generously, he shared some with me, enough to coat the tips of 2 fingers. I rubbed it on my back where I sustained an injury years ago as well as on my forehead. Intense heat immediately swept over my entire back and finally, my entire body (even though I was sitting in a cold car and could see my breath). In a few minutes, I was very slightly hallucinating. Everything looked as if it were inside a mandala for about an hour – a truly wonderful experience! I remember feeling noticeably healthier the following day.

Exodus 30, verses 22 – 30

Anointing Oil

22 Then the LORD said to Moses, 23 “Take the following fine spices: 500 shekels of liquid myrrh, half as much (that is, 250 shekels) of fragrant cinnamon, 250 shekels of fragrant cane, 24 500 shekels of cassia – all according to the sanctuary shekel – and a hin of olive oil. 25 Make these into a sacred anointing oil, a fragrant blend, the work of a perfumer. It will be the sacred anointing oil. . . .

Converted into today’s measurements:

liquid myrrh 500 shekels 5.75 kg (12.68 lbs)

cassia 500 shekels 5.75 kg (12.68 lbs)

cinnamon leaf 250 shekels 2.875 kg (6.34 lbs)

cannabis flowers 250 shekels 2.875 kg (6.34 lbs)

olive oil 1 hin 6.5 liters (1.72 gallons)

In the traditional method, all of these ingredients would have been mixed with water and then boiled until all the water evaporated. The oil was then strained and ready for use.

How to make the Holy Anointing Oil - by Reverend Tom Brown:

This is the recipe I have used. It is not exactly the same recipe that is listed in Exodus, it has only one ounce of marijuana instead of fifteen ounces. However, this recipe has been used on human beings and used with prayer, worked to relieve pain. I have used this on a man suffering from Aids, another man with severe upper back pain from a pinched nerve, on a woman with severe lower back pain associated with her monthlys, on a man suffering from rheumatoid arthritis and on myself for various pains and abrasions.

1 pint Organic Sesame Seed oil

1 pint Organic Olive Oil

.06 oz Cinnamon bark oil (Cassia) (1 eighth of a .5 oz bottle)

.06 oz Cinnamon leaf oil (1 eighth of a .5 oz bottle)

1 oz of Myrrh Gum

1 oz of Marijuana

This produces an oil that is much less powerful then the original recipe as 2 pints of oil, or one quart of oil, in the original recipe would have 15 ounces of marijuana flowers, not the 1 ounce I have used. All these ingredients except for the marijuana are available at the local health food store here in Fayetteville, Arkansas.

You need a cooking pot and a Pyrex 4 cup measuring cup. Use a cooking pot with a liner/separator so that the container you cook the oil in is lifted off the bottom of the cooking pot. You need a candy thermometer that will clip onto the side of the pot. You need enough Canola oil to use as the heat transfer medium in the cooking pot.

* Place the pint of Sesame Seed oil in the container with the shredded Marijuana and the Myrrh Gum.
* Place the jar into the cooking pot, on top of the liner/separator.
* Place the Canola oil into the cooking pot up to within 3 inches of the top of the pot – or to the same level of the Sesame Seed oil in the jar – whichever is less.
* Wrap Aluminum foil around the cooking pot lip and crumple it so that the space between the cooking pot and the jar is covered with the foil. This helps cut down on oil fumes and reduces fire hazard from the hot oil. Use an electric stove or hotplate – never use any kind of open flame for this cooking.
* Place the candy thermometer thru the foil and clip it onto the side of the cooking pot so that the sensing tip is immersed in the Canola oil. The Canola oil transfers heat from the stove to the jar at higher temperatures then boiling water at 212 degrees. You want to cook the oil for one hour at 300 degrees. This extracts the active ingredients from the Marijuana and dissolves the Myrrh gum into the oil.
* Remove from the heat and allow it to cool. The glass container is very fragile; do not mess with it until it cools to skin temperature or it will break and you will lose that lot of oil.
* Strain the oil / herb mixture thru a cloth and discard the solids.
* Add the Olive oil, Cinnamon Bark (Cassia) oil and the Cinnamon leaf oil to the cooked Anointing Oil and bottle. Store the Anointing Oil in the refrigerator in a dark colored bottle. Decant into smaller jars for use. (Source)
http://patients4medicalmarijuana.wordpress.com/2009/12/22/jesus-healed-using-cannabis-study-shows/
Rev. Tom Brown

[ximmy]

Ideas like this tend to have the agenda of discrediting the miraculous... such is then explained by reasoning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uww0DH-trOs

[chad]

you know, i'm down with the struggle, but...BULLSHIT.

[G2Rad]

whole bunch of people will be burning in Hell for ever and ever over that nonsense

as sure as the sun shines

[StreetsOfGold]

The Bible does teach healing with herbs
Psalm 104:14 He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man

Since we were told what to eat in Genesis and especially the seeds (which is usually not done nowadays) and heep seeds are some of the most nutritious in the world there can be a case made for growing and using marijuana, HOWEVER, this does not mean Jesus condoned smoking anything to "get high"

By definition

calamus:
The generic name of the Indian cane, called also rotang. It is without branches, has a crown at the top, and is beset with spines.
A sort of reed, or sweet-scented cane, used by the Jews as a perfume. It is a knotty root, reddish without and white within, and filled with a spungy substance. It has an aromatic smell.

[Rebel Yarr]

why does the article call marijuana a drug? wtf. drug

[hoarder]

That would explain the long hair, anyway. :o

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Is this really so difficult to believe?

What about the story of the spikenard balm?

John12

3Mary then took a pound of very costly perfume of pure nard, and anointed the feet of Jesus and wiped His feet with her hair; and the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume. 4But Judas Iscariot, one of His disciples, who was intending to betray Him, said, 5“Why was this perfume not sold for three hundred denarii and given to poor people?” 6Now he said this, not because he was concerned about the poor, but because he was a thief, and as he had the money box, he used to pilfer what was put into it. 7Therefore Jesus said, “Let her alone, so that she may keep it for the day of My burial. 8“For you always have the poor with you, but you do not always have Me.”

Clearly Jesus is using what we call "herbal medicine", but for religious purposes. I mean, that is established, correct? He of all people would not need it, yet he chooses to use it.

[keehah]

This article is a pro-pot miracle!

Smoking pot literally gets you closer to god's son.

[vacuum]

Clearly different herbs and substances were used throughout the bible. I have no problem believing cannabis was one of them... The plant itself has amazing and unique properties. It can be used as a fuel, rope, clothing, food, paper, and mind-altering substance. Its also restricted from us by tptb, which itself is a good clue. I also find it interesting that some plants are male and others female.

[Antonio]

Here is a sober summary of reefer. Reefer is a poor hallucinogen, a poor tranquilizer and a poor painkiller. It is unique among intoxicants being non-toxic and not physically addictive although I`ve seen friends who smoke prodigious amounts fidgeting when suddenly deprived of it. I too experienced very mild physical withdrawal from it when I chain-smoked joints for a few years. I`ve always hated the hallucinogenic part of reefer, others love it and they usually go in the direction of acid,shrooms and peyote. I value clear mind above everything in life. If you want to expand your mind, reefer won`t be enough. If you seek relaxation and good sleep, reefer won`t be enough, if you are in serious pain, the same story...
It`s a good social lubricant and you can have lots of fun in a company of good friends but on the other hand you may not because pot is unpredictable and you may suddenly become morose...vodka is more reliable but it`s toxic.
Pot is the ultimate compromise among intoxicants and I daresay it`s poverty.

[Serpo]

Here is a sober summary of reefer. Reefer is a poor hallucinogen, a poor tranquilizer and a poor painkiller. It is unique among intoxicants being non-toxic and not physically addictive although I`ve seen friends who smoke prodigious amounts fidgeting when suddenly deprived of it. I too experienced very mild physical withdrawal from it when I chain-smoked joints for a few years. I`ve always hated the hallucinogenic part of reefer, others love it and they usually go in the direction of acid,shrooms and peyote. I value clear mind above everything in life. If you want to expand your mind, reefer won`t be enough. If you seek relaxation and good sleep, reefer won`t be enough, if you are in serious pain, the same story...
It`s a good social lubricant and you can have lots of fun in a company of good friends but on the other hand you may not because pot is unpredictable and you may suddenly become morose...vodka is more reliable but it`s toxic.
Pot is the ultimate compromise among intoxicants and I daresay it`s poverty.



WTF.............are you trying to say...........

[osoab]

That would explain the long hair, anyway. :o


Don't forget the sandals and robe. :D

Friggin Bible Hippies.

[Antonio]

Here is a sober summary of reefer. Reefer is a poor hallucinogen, a poor tranquilizer and a poor painkiller. It is unique among intoxicants being non-toxic and not physically addictive although I`ve seen friends who smoke prodigious amounts fidgeting when suddenly deprived of it. I too experienced very mild physical withdrawal from it when I chain-smoked joints for a few years. I`ve always hated the hallucinogenic part of reefer, others love it and they usually go in the direction of acid,shrooms and peyote. I value clear mind above everything in life. If you want to expand your mind, reefer won`t be enough. If you seek relaxation and good sleep, reefer won`t be enough, if you are in serious pain, the same story...
It`s a good social lubricant and you can have lots of fun in a company of good friends but on the other hand you may not because pot is unpredictable and you may suddenly become morose...vodka is more reliable but it`s toxic.
Pot is the ultimate compromise among intoxicants and I daresay it`s poverty.



WTF.............are you trying to say...........


Pot is not enough ;D.
PS. If you like lightning-fast reflexes and clear mind, the chances are coffee won`t be enough and coke is your thing. Pot is a very poor substitute for opiates. Those who try opiates for the first time feel that this is what pot should but could never be. Heroin users have a very puritanical attitude towards pot and usually wouldn`t touch the stuff.

[Serpo]

Here is a sober summary of reefer. Reefer is a poor hallucinogen, a poor tranquilizer and a poor painkiller. It is unique among intoxicants being non-toxic and not physically addictive although I`ve seen friends who smoke prodigious amounts fidgeting when suddenly deprived of it. I too experienced very mild physical withdrawal from it when I chain-smoked joints for a few years. I`ve always hated the hallucinogenic part of reefer, others love it and they usually go in the direction of acid,shrooms and peyote. I value clear mind above everything in life. If you want to expand your mind, reefer won`t be enough. If you seek relaxation and good sleep, reefer won`t be enough, if you are in serious pain, the same story...
It`s a good social lubricant and you can have lots of fun in a company of good friends but on the other hand you may not because pot is unpredictable and you may suddenly become morose...vodka is more reliable but it`s toxic.
Pot is the ultimate compromise among intoxicants and I daresay it`s poverty.



WTF.............are you trying to say...........


Pot is not enough ;D.
PS. If you like lightning-fast reflexes and clear mind, the chances are coffee won`t be enough and coke is your thing. Pot is a very poor substitute for opiates. Those who try opiates for the first time feel that this is what pot should but could never be. Heroin users have a very puritanical attitude towards pot and usually wouldn`t touch the stuff.



I knew it ,you are comparing drugs , what ever........try stopping using them and see what happens.F#ck opiates Antonio and f#ck comparing drugs.

Is weed going to make you steal off your own mother...no...but opiates will and you know it.......

[Antonio]

Here is a sober summary of reefer. Reefer is a poor hallucinogen, a poor tranquilizer and a poor painkiller. It is unique among intoxicants being non-toxic and not physically addictive although I`ve seen friends who smoke prodigious amounts fidgeting when suddenly deprived of it. I too experienced very mild physical withdrawal from it when I chain-smoked joints for a few years. I`ve always hated the hallucinogenic part of reefer, others love it and they usually go in the direction of acid,shrooms and peyote. I value clear mind above everything in life. If you want to expand your mind, reefer won`t be enough. If you seek relaxation and good sleep, reefer won`t be enough, if you are in serious pain, the same story...
It`s a good social lubricant and you can have lots of fun in a company of good friends but on the other hand you may not because pot is unpredictable and you may suddenly become morose...vodka is more reliable but it`s toxic.
Pot is the ultimate compromise among intoxicants and I daresay it`s poverty.



WTF.............are you trying to say...........


Pot is not enough ;D.
PS. If you like lightning-fast reflexes and clear mind, the chances are coffee won`t be enough and coke is your thing. Pot is a very poor substitute for opiates. Those who try opiates for the first time feel that this is what pot should but could never be. Heroin users have a very puritanical attitude towards pot and usually wouldn`t touch the stuff.



I knew it ,you are comparing drugs , what ever........try stopping using them and see what happens.F#ck opiates Antonio and f#ck comparing drugs.

Is weed going to make you steal off your own mother...no...but opiates will and you know it.......

Keith Richards said he didn`t have problems with drugs but had problems with the police. Dope will drive one to crime because its price is artificially kept astronomically high, its production cost is pennies. There is nothing in dope itself which drives people to crime except the ridiculous price which amounts to extortion. I`ve also seen people who smoke up to 30$/day worth of reefer, this is approaching the expenses of dope addicts.
Grass is the last drug I`ll ever worship even though I`m thankful it`s there. It gives one a glimpse at what`s possible to experience thru drugs.
Heavy grass use looks a bit infantile after one reaches a certain age.
Either stop seeking chemical pleasures alltogether or move up to other drugs (either way is fine with me).

[oldmansmith]

All pleasures are chemical Antonio, some chemicals are taken and some are manufactured in your body.

Jesus drank wine, why would he not have used cannabis if everyone else did?

[ShortJohnSilver]

Q is, was it the stuff that has lots of THC, or the stuff that doesn't? There are plenty of hemp varieties that contain no THC and yes, you can get oil and rope from those as well.

Interesting slant on the article "Jesus did pot" - but no mention of the Jewish traditions that would have surrounded all of that - I note no "Moses/Joshua/Abraham/Isaac did pot" story has appeared ... which alone is suspect.

[Neuro]

Bennet is a tribesname, yes? I think he used manual techniques if he existed, that is...

[Book]

http://www.dailynewshaikus.com/ClipArt/Haikus/2007.03/2007.03.21/BongJesus.jpg

http://hempbeach.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Bong+Smoking+Jesus.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Weed-Gerald-Taylor/dp/0091899346

Potheads can read?

:oo-->

[Book]

Heroin users have a very puritanical attitude towards pot and usually wouldn`t touch the stuff.



http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KF/2009/03/25/jesus_w_junkie.jpg

Some heroin users finally accept Jesus as their last-ditch personal Savior when they can no longer steal $100 each day or get free methadone from the tax-payer-supported clinic. One Sunday morning they appear at a church door begging for Jesus and a free sandwich and a cup of free coffee.

:oo-->

[Horn]

Book, like a bong & a blintz?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRtNfb6D3Mc

[Book]

Book, like a bong & a blintz?



http://www.youtube.com/v/pc0mxOXbWIU

http://images.yuku.com/image/gif/520367ba40fe69fda168a27c0f5115be41b8b14e.gif

[Tumbleweed]

That article sounded like another lie coming from a Jew to discredit Jesus and his followers. It sounded to me like they were implying Jesus was a wandering hippie smokin people up and pulling the wool over their eyes, pretending to have performed miracles.

[sirgonzo420]

Pot or not, if Jesus walked the earth as a man, he had DMT in his brain.


:)

[osoab]

http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp145/bazookajoe108/bong-hits-4-jesus-1.jpg

[Book]

That article sounded like another lie coming from a Jew to discredit Jesus and his followers. It sounded to me like they were implying Jesus was a wandering hippie smokin people up and pulling the wool over their eyes, pretending to have performed miracles.



http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dZt6QPJB-jM/Su9GBLjiitI/AAAAAAAAAd8/Ff2Feij5Yqs/s320/jesus-pot.jpg

Exactly. All-too-common jew website doing this:

http://memegenerator.net/jesus-says/ImageMacro/5626480/SMOKING-BLUNT-WHILE-DRINKING-MILK-AND-EATING-POT-BROWNIE-ENTER-THE-DIVINE-CONSIOUSNESS

[sirgonzo420]

That article sounded like another lie coming from a Jew to discredit Jesus and his followers. It sounded to me like they were implying Jesus was a wandering hippie smokin people up and pulling the wool over their eyes, pretending to have performed miracles.



http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dZt6QPJB-jM/Su9GBLjiitI/AAAAAAAAAd8/Ff2Feij5Yqs/s320/jesus-pot.jpg

Exactly. All-too-common jew website doing this:

http://memegenerator.net/jesus-says/ImageMacro/5626480/SMOKING-BLUNT-WHILE-DRINKING-MILK-AND-EATING-POT-BROWNIE-ENTER-THE-DIVINE-CONSIOUSNESS



So what?

Christianity is an offshoot of judaism anyway.

So it's kinda "their thing".

[gunDriller]

it's amazing how many Christians are anti-marijuana.

[freespirit]

personally, i smoke every day. have for years, never missed work cause of it, or been in trouble with the cops over it, and i have a great relationship with God, talk to him almost every day.

i don't get worked up over those that choose not to use it, and i don't really care if they don't approve. i simply say to each their own, and if they can take some time to get to know me, i can usually broaden their perception of what they believe to be a "dangerous drug". and show them how misconstrued alot of the information on pot is, as well. i'm not preaching it, or broadcasting it, or looking to convert them to pot smokers, just to show them their perceptions may be flawed.

did jesus smoke pot? maybe, maybe not. does it make a difference? if you need some form of validation to make something such as pot use acceptable for yourself, you shouldn't be smoking it.

me? my conscience is clear.

OHL--

just for the record, i'm 40, been smoking it for 25 years, and i am in fantastic shape. i have no health issues, rarely get sick, i'm over 6' , 185lbs of solid muscle, and around 4% body fat.
;D

[Antonio]

“The Jews generally give value. They make you pay; but they deliver the goods. In my experience the men who want something for nothing are invariably Christians.”

George Bernard Shaw



PS.People who worship grass want to experience a chemical paradise but don`t want to pay the price. As a result they end up sucking useless smoke everyday and never reaching the desired paradise, all they get is bronchitis and red eyes. Opiate users have enough common sense to know beforehand that paradise in this life comes with a price and they are willing to pay it (cash advances and hideous withdrawal).

No wonder grass is connected with Xtianity, the most dishonest and delusional ideology ever invented.

[sirgonzo420]

“The Jews generally give value. They make you pay; but they deliver the goods. In my experience the men who want something for nothing are invariably Christians.”

George Bernard Shaw



PS.People who worship grass want to experience a chemical paradise but don`t want to pay the price. As a result they end up sucking useless smoke everyday and never reaching the desired paradise, all they get is bronchitis and red eyes. Opiate users have enough common sense to know beforehand that paradise in this life comes with a price and they are willing to pay it (cash advances and hideous withdrawal).

No wonder grass is connected with Xtianity, the most dishonest and delusional ideology ever invented.


lol at antonio knocking pot while glorifying heroin.

if heroin is ok, then cannabis is MORE than ok.

[osoab]

lol at antonio knocking pot while glorifying heroin.

if heroin is ok, then cannabis is MORE than ok.




Ditch weed will do that to a fella.

[lapis]

it's amazing how many Christians are anti-marijuana.


You don't get a deep meditative spiritual experience by smoking dope or doing / having mushroom or opiate trips.

What about those shamans that use psychedelic substances? Some of the experiences people have on them are amazing. And they have been reproduced with LSD studies/experiments (although with the caveat that both were taken under careful supervision and under certain conditions).


And that number one excuse is the "Bible says it's OK" and what it really is is a misunderstanding of the Bible.

I think so too. Some of the quotes that have stuck with me from Bible School all those years ago is John 14:12, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."

and 14:13: "And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son."

It's all a matter of faith.

I'm not averse to having non-drug induced mind-altering experiences. In fact, I'm fascinated with the idea. But so far I'm happy with just meditation for now, and studying non-dualistic ways of looking at reality, like the Dzogchen Buddhist teachings.

[lapis]

And for 25 years, every day of my life I drank caffeine like water, I LOVED COFFEE. I was convinced it was helping me to think clearly, to calm me, to relax me. There is no excuse that I could come up with to say it was bad for me. None. In my eyes coffee was delicious, smelled heavenly, helped me through everyday perfectly fine. My drug of choice.

Someday I hope to kick this habit too! It's a hard one to break. I was down to 1/2 a cup until this latest disaster in Japan, and since then I've been up late every night and up early every morning with my daughter.

I try to follow the recommendations in The Mood Cure book. It's all about using diet and supplements to break addictions. But one of the main recommendations is getting plenty of sleep! *yawn*

[Tumbleweed]

That article sounded like another lie coming from a Jew to discredit Jesus and his followers. It sounded to me like they were implying Jesus was a wandering hippie smokin people up and pulling the wool over their eyes, pretending to have performed miracles.



http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dZt6QPJB-jM/Su9GBLjiitI/AAAAAAAAAd8/Ff2Feij5Yqs/s320/jesus-pot.jpg


Exactly. All-too-common jew website doing this:

http://memegenerator.net/jesus-says/ImageMacro/5626480/SMOKING-BLUNT-WHILE-DRINKING-MILK-AND-EATING-POT-BROWNIE-ENTER-THE-DIVINE-CONSIOUSNESS


From the book the Talmud Unmasked by I.B. Pranaitis
http://www.talmudunmasked.com/chapter5.htm

The Talmud teaches that Jesus Christ was illegitimate and was conceived during menstruation; that he had the soul of Esau; that he was a fool, a conjurer, a seducer; that he was crucified, buried in hell and set up as an idol ever since by his followers.

1. ILLEGITIMATE AND CONCEIVED DURING MENSTRUATION

The following is narrated in the Tract Kallah, 1b:

"Once when the Elders were seated at the Gate, two young men passed by, one of whom had his head covered, the other with his head bare. Rabbi Eliezer remarked that the one in his bare head was illegitimate, a mamzer. Rabbi Jehoschua said that he was conceived during menstruation, ben niddah. Rabbi Akibah, however, said that he was both. Whereupon the others asked Rabbi Akibah why he dared to contradict his colleagues. He answered that he could prove what he said. He went therefore to the boy's mother whom he saw sitting in the market place selling vegetables and said to her: 'My daughter, if you will answer truthfully what I am going to ask you, I promise that you will be saved in the next life.' She demanded that he would swear to keep his promise, and Rabbi Akibah did so—but with his lips only, for in his heart he invalidated his oath. Then he said: 'Tell me, what kind of son is this of yours'? To which she replied: 'The day I was married I was having menstruation, and because of this my husband left me. But an evil spirit came and slept with me and from this intercourse my son was born to me.' Thus it was proved that this young man was not only illegitimate but also conceived during the menstruation of his mother. And when his questioners heard this they declared: 'Great indeed was Rabbi Akibah when he corrected his Elders'! And they exclaimed: 'Blessed be the Lord God of Israel who revealed his secret to Rabbi Akibah the son of Joseph' "!

That the Jews understand this story to refer to Jesus and his mother, Mary, is clearly demonstrated in their book Toldath Jeschu—'The Generations of Jesus'—where the birth of our Savior is narrated in almost the same words.(4)

(4) cf. Synag. Jud. Chap. VIII, p. 133.

[Book]

lol at antonio knocking pot while glorifying heroin.



http://manvsdebt.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Hypocrite.jpg

It seems he doesn't even realize it.

:D

[Horn]

I guess I'm middle of the road when it comes to drugs?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0uy44QhfEE

[Antonio]

lol at antonio knocking pot while glorifying heroin.



http://manvsdebt.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Hypocrite.jpg

It seems he doesn't even realize it.

:D


Book, you have outdone yourself. This dude looks an aweful lot like me,except the ears are a bit bigger than mine.
PS. There is a Russian saying:" If you are afraid of teeth, you shouldn`t get blowjobs".
The reason people worship grass is they are afraid of other drugs. If other drugs were non-addictive nobody would be smoking pot.
I don`t glorify any drugs and I had 11 absolutely clean years up until 3 years ago, I`m clean now except a few cigs.
It`s ok to have a grass phase in your teens/early 20s but if you are stuck in it it means you want something else but are afraid.
There is no way a 40yr old guy truly wants grass after 20 yrs of smoking it, he is bored with it like one is bored with a woman he no longer loves.It becomes a marriage of convenience. Either divorce her and be single or get a sexy heroin slut but be honest with yourself.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Nobody except the antis are suggesting that Jesus smoked pot.

I thought the OP was very clear that we were discussing a BALM or ointment which may have contained cannabis as ONE of the ingredients.

[Tumbleweed]

lol at antonio knocking pot while glorifying heroin.



http://manvsdebt.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Hypocrite.jpg

It seems he doesn't even realize it.

:D


Book, you have outdone yourself. This dude looks an aweful lot like me,except the ears are a bit bigger than mine.
PS. There is a Russian saying:" If you are afraid of teeth, you shouldn`t get blowjobs".
The reason people worship grass is they are afraid of other drugs. If other drugs were non-addictive nobody would be smoking pot.
I don`t glorify any drugs and I had 11 absolutely clean years up until 3 years ago, I`m clean now except a few cigs.
It`s ok to have a grass phase in your teens/early 20s but if you are stuck in it it means you want something else but are afraid.
There is no way a 40yr old guy truly wants grass after 20 yrs of smoking it, he is bored with it like one is bored with a woman he no longer loves.It becomes a marriage of convenience. Either divorce her and be single or get a sexy heroin slut but be honest with yourself.


antonio keep the ten commandenments and accept Jesus as god or suffer the consequencxess. It's your choice.

[Serpo]

Serpo, you break my heart everytime you post one of those Hallelujah for Weed threads.


This article is EXTREMELY ignorant to the the Bible.
You cannot take a few verses out of the BIble without understanding the whole picture.
Let me try to explain briefly.

In Genesis it says:
1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.



But after the fall of man, the ground was cursed and no longer was everything good (Genesis 3:17-18). Scripture makes this abundantly clear in 2 Kings 4:38-41 where a certain person found a wild vine with wild gourds and sliced them into a pot, not knowing that they were poisonous. God did a miracle to cure the pot of the poison. Not every herb was good for eating.



Genesis 3:17-19

17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’

“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”

Elisha Makes a Meal Edible
4:38 Now Elisha went back to Gilgal, while there was famine in the land. Some of the prophets were visiting him 56 and he told his servant, “Put the big pot on the fire 57 and boil some stew for the prophets.” 58 4:39 Someone went out to the field to gather some herbs and found a wild vine. 59 He picked some of its fruit, 60 enough to fill up the fold of his robe. He came back, cut it up, and threw the slices 61 into the stew pot, not knowing they were harmful. 62 4:40 The stew was poured out 63 for the men to eat. When they ate some of the stew, they cried out, “Death is in the pot, O prophet!” They could not eat it. 4:41 He said, “Get some flour.” Then he threw it into the pot and said, “Now pour some out for the men so they may eat.” 64 There was no longer anything harmful in the pot.






There are tons & tons of poisonous herbs ALL OVER THE PLACE !!!! It is up to us to discern what is edible & what is not.
Why not just go & eat the poisonous hemlock or poison ivy or poinsetta or poison mushrooms, too ?

God & Nature are sooooooooo smart. You have the free will to go & use whatever plants & herbs you want to.
Nature will see to it that you shall get the blessing from the plant or the cursing from the plant by your choices & knowledge.
(Abuse the teachings of the Bible & abuse your body subsequently from the wrong teachings & see what happens)
And Jesus smoking it, OMG, He walked on water & cured lepers.. nuff said.


Luv ya Serpo.


Not sure where it said Jesus smoked it.

The only time I saw truth in the bible is when I was in India and an American guy was totally lost in it.This guy was so involved in the bible that he didnt see what was happening in his immediate vicinity.It was then the realisation hit me that people depend on something in a physical way for spiritual growth.There is limited spiritual growth depending on anything ,books ,churches ,even beliefs.It all comes down to your conscious state of awareness and living in the eternal now.There is nothing else that isnt right here now and if anyone thinks/believes there is then it is a conceptual thought form that lies in their mind.
Spiritually has been a part of my life since 15 yrs old and in all this time it has been found that having no beliefs and no church is the way to freedom.
Otherwise I will be living in the past all the time and missing the present.
One further thing is that this is no easy task.
It also lets me walk into any place of worship and feel at peace and not like they are the opposition as this is what religion has done,it has separated man..........and this I will not tolerate any more.

God bless everyone

[Horn]

PS. There is a Russian saying:" If you are afraid of teeth, you shouldn`t get blowjobs".
The reason people worship grass is they are afraid of other drugs.

I'll have to agree here. You're a very astute gentile.

[sirgonzo420]

PS. There is a Russian saying:" If you are afraid of teeth, you shouldn`t get blowjobs".
The reason people worship grass is they are afraid of other drugs.

I'll have to agree here. You're a very astute gentile.


I don't "WORSHIP grass", and I am not afraid of other drugs*.

I don't shoot smack on a daily basis, but I'm familiar with many plants/fungi/compounds, and while I respect them, I'm not "afraid" of them.

People use "drugs" for different reasons.

If I wanted to shit myself and nod out, then I would snort/shoot/smoke heroin. I don't; I am content with cannabis.





*Cannabis is a plant. I don't consider it a drug any more than I do any other plant.

[Antonio]

I could write an article about each psychoactive drug listing every completely different reason why people use each one of them.
People use grass for several reasons, some artistic types rely on it to expand their minds, others seek the tranquilizing effect, others treat their physical pains with, some attempt treating the inner psychological pain with it...
Grass is a jack of all trades and the master of none.
The only excuse for being a lifelong grass smoker is having certain physical ailments which grass can relieve,such as glaucoma, nausea, arthritic pain, MS etc. In this case grass is much better than pharma drugs.
Smoking grass for emotional pain is stupid because grass only exacerbates it.
Being honest with oneself improves any situation. Christianity is the height of being dishonest with oneself. Cross and weed were made for each other. Weed promises cheap relief for mental pain but never delivers it, same as churches.
Being psychologically whole is hard work, it doesn`t come from a pipe or a building stuffed with weak people.

[Serpo]

Not sure where it said Jesus smoked it.


[/quote]


More Archaeological Evidence Source

A recent archeological expedition to Israel uncovered scrolls that appear to depict the story of Jesus’ crucifixion.
On one of the scrolls is a sketch that shows a man, thought to be Jesus, smoking from a pipe. Below the drawing is the Hebrew word “kineboisin”, which translates to cannabis.



[/quote]

ah well there you go then


but did he inhale......... ;D

[sirgonzo420]

I could write an article about each psychoactive drug listing every completely different reason why people use each one of them.
People use grass for several reasons, some artistic types rely on it to expand their minds, others seek the tranquilizing effect, others treat their physical pains with, some attempt treating the inner psychological pain with it...
Grass is a jack of all trades and the master of none.
The only excuse for being a lifelong grass smoker is having certain physical ailments which grass can relieve,such as glaucoma, nausea, arthritic pain, MS etc. In this case grass is much better than pharma drugs.
Smoking grass for emotional pain is stupid because grass only exacerbates it.
Being honest with oneself improves any situation. Christianity is the height of being dishonest with oneself. Cross and weed were made for each other. Weed promises cheap relief for mental pain but never delivers it, same as churches.
Being psychologically whole is hard work, it doesn`t come from a pipe or a building stuffed with weak people.


I mostly agree with your post.


That being said, cannabis does not disappoint me. It has always performed as expected.


On a side note, ever had a big ole' blast of DiMethylTryptamine?

Or has "SWIM"?

;D

[Antonio]

I could write an article about each psychoactive drug listing every completely different reason why people use each one of them.
People use grass for several reasons, some artistic types rely on it to expand their minds, others seek the tranquilizing effect, others treat their physical pains with, some attempt treating the inner psychological pain with it...
Grass is a jack of all trades and the master of none.
The only excuse for being a lifelong grass smoker is having certain physical ailments which grass can relieve,such as glaucoma, nausea, arthritic pain, MS etc. In this case grass is much better than pharma drugs.
Smoking grass for emotional pain is stupid because grass only exacerbates it.
Being honest with oneself improves any situation. Christianity is the height of being dishonest with oneself. Cross and weed were made for each other. Weed promises cheap relief for mental pain but never delivers it, same as churches.
Being psychologically whole is hard work, it doesn`t come from a pipe or a building stuffed with weak people.


I mostly agree with your post.


That being said, cannabis does not disappoint me. It has always performed as expected.


On a side note, ever had a big ole' blast of DiMethylTryptamine?

Or has "SWIM"?

;D


Never. Call me a coward but after having been slipped some acid and PCP and seeing all kinds of things and beings that weren`t there I would never touch any hallucinogen. I used to smoke huge amounts of grass while in college, to the point of mild hallucinations such as distorted depth perception etc. It was pure hell for me. The reason I smoked so much was a bad case of ulcer and grass does relieve the stabbing pain in the stomach. The same with opiates, I got there thru pain and started from painkillers, not from heroin although they are exactly the same thing.
The only 2 drugs I`ve ever done for purely emotional reasons are booze and coke and I never really abused them.The reason behind 90% of my overall drug use is pure physical pain while having to study/work at the same time and not depression. If one is depressed, the first thing to do is get rid of all psychoactive substances including caffeine and nicotine. Clinically depressed people on drugs is a horror show.

[Horn]

That being said, cannabis does not disappoint me. It has always performed as expected.

The "acceptable rebel" prescription in marijuana still works because its only mentally addictive, if it were physically addictive it would be feared as anything should be.

I've seen peoples lives ruined over it though. Not all at once, more or less like smoking tobacco but much more acute, a slow drain on the entire mental being until they can't really see the place they're in until its too late.

[Antonio]

That being said, cannabis does not disappoint me. It has always performed as expected.

The "acceptable rebel" prescription in marijuana still works because its only mentally addictive, if it were physically addictive it would be feared as anything should be.

I've seen peoples lives ruined over it though. Not all at once, more or less like smoking tobacco but much more acute, a slow drain on the entire mental being until they can't really see the place they're in until its too late.

Me too, I`ve seen them. It`s not as much that health is ruined, it`s more of being chronically unproductive although some of the most productive people I`ve known chain-smoke it for their entire lives. Grass is completely unpredictable while opiates offer a totally predictable experience everytime, dope highs are like a mass-produced product while grass is custom-taylored to each person and each and every experience.
Grass appeals to lazy liberals while opium is a soldier`s drug, a perfect combat companion erasing fear and sharpening the concentration. Getting into a fight after smoking grass is a disaster while dope makes you psychologically bulletproof.
The healthiest grass experience can be had in a sauna, smoke a little before and then lie down in a steam room.
PS. I`m not trying to shit on grass but I recognize the fact that there is such a thing as grass abuse. Thank God it is never malignant as any other drug abuse. It should be completely legal and a culture of responsible use must be developed.

[freespirit]

lol at antonio knocking pot while glorifying heroin.




It seems he doesn't even realize it.

:D


Book, you have outdone yourself. This dude looks an aweful lot like me,except the ears are a bit bigger than mine.
PS. There is a Russian saying:" If you are afraid of teeth, you shouldn`t get blowjobs".
The reason people worship grass is they are afraid of other drugs. If other drugs were non-addictive nobody would be smoking pot.
I don`t glorify any drugs and I had 11 absolutely clean years up until 3 years ago, I`m clean now except a few cigs.
It`s ok to have a grass phase in your teens/early 20s but if you are stuck in it it means you want something else but are afraid.
There is no way a 40yr old guy truly wants grass after 20 yrs of smoking it, he is bored with it like one is bored with a woman he no longer loves.It becomes a marriage of convenience. Either divorce her and be single or get a sexy heroin slut but be honest with yourself.


i for one am absolutely happy with myself and the things that i do. i have no fear. i have only contentment. i have no desire of harder drugs, and sleep very well at night. and never ever have i woken up in my own shit.

[Antonio]

lol at antonio knocking pot while glorifying heroin.




It seems he doesn't even realize it.

:D


Book, you have outdone yourself. This dude looks an aweful lot like me,except the ears are a bit bigger than mine.
PS. There is a Russian saying:" If you are afraid of teeth, you shouldn`t get blowjobs".
The reason people worship grass is they are afraid of other drugs. If other drugs were non-addictive nobody would be smoking pot.
I don`t glorify any drugs and I had 11 absolutely clean years up until 3 years ago, I`m clean now except a few cigs.
It`s ok to have a grass phase in your teens/early 20s but if you are stuck in it it means you want something else but are afraid.
There is no way a 40yr old guy truly wants grass after 20 yrs of smoking it, he is bored with it like one is bored with a woman he no longer loves.It becomes a marriage of convenience. Either divorce her and be single or get a sexy heroin slut but be honest with yourself.


i for one am absolutely happy with myself and the things that i do. i have no fear. i have only contentment. i have no desire of harder drugs, and sleep very well at night. and never ever have i woken up in my own shit.


Being healthy is the best high of them all. Since you are completely healthy, have you thought of quitting grass or cutting down on it? I`ve had relatively healthy decades when I was super-busy and working out like mad, never needed any drugs except green tea in the morning.

[sirgonzo420]

That being said, cannabis does not disappoint me. It has always performed as expected.

The "acceptable rebel" prescription in marijuana still works because its only mentally addictive, if it were physically addictive it would be feared as anything should be.

I've seen peoples lives ruined over it though. Not all at once, more or less like smoking tobacco but much more acute, a slow drain on the entire mental being until they can't really see the place they're in until its too late.

Me too, I`ve seen them. It`s not as much that health is ruined, it`s more of being chronically unproductive although some of the most productive people I`ve known chain-smoke it for their entire lives. Grass is completely unpredictable while opiates offer a totally predictable experience everytime, dope highs are like a mass-produced product while grass is custom-taylored to each person and each and every experience.
Grass appeals to lazy liberals while opium is a soldier`s drug, a perfect combat companion erasing fear and sharpening the concentration. Getting into a fight after smoking grass is a disaster while dope makes you psychologically bulletproof.
The healthiest grass experience can be had in a sauna, smoke a little before and then lie down in a steam room.
PS. I`m not trying to shit on grass but I recognize the fact that there is such a thing as grass abuse. Thank God it is never malignant as any other drug abuse. It should be completely legal and a culture of responsible use must be developed.


I would never abuse cannabis. We have a very loving relationship.

I'm not knocking opium.... it's strong enough to be effective, but mild enough so as to not be the bitch that heroin/morphine/methadone or even worse, fentanyl can be.

[sirgonzo420]

lol at antonio knocking pot while glorifying heroin.




It seems he doesn't even realize it.

:D


Book, you have outdone yourself. This dude looks an aweful lot like me,except the ears are a bit bigger than mine.
PS. There is a Russian saying:" If you are afraid of teeth, you shouldn`t get blowjobs".
The reason people worship grass is they are afraid of other drugs. If other drugs were non-addictive nobody would be smoking pot.
I don`t glorify any drugs and I had 11 absolutely clean years up until 3 years ago, I`m clean now except a few cigs.
It`s ok to have a grass phase in your teens/early 20s but if you are stuck in it it means you want something else but are afraid.
There is no way a 40yr old guy truly wants grass after 20 yrs of smoking it, he is bored with it like one is bored with a woman he no longer loves.It becomes a marriage of convenience. Either divorce her and be single or get a sexy heroin slut but be honest with yourself.


i for one am absolutely happy with myself and the things that i do. i have no fear. i have only contentment. i have no desire of harder drugs, and sleep very well at night. and never ever have i woken up in my own shit.


Being healthy is the best high of them all. Since you are completely healthy, have you thought of quitting grass or cutting down on it? I`ve had relatively healthy decades when I was super-busy and working out like mad, never needed any drugs except green tea in the morning.



I can't speak for freespirit, but as for myself, I *enjoy* it, so there is no real incentive to quit outright. It's comparable to eating a meal that I really like. Sure, I could eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich instead, but why, when I can have my favorite food if I want?

I'm not an ascetic.

If I wanted to quit at any given time I could. I simply do not want to. I smoked cigarettes for years, and decided it was time to stop, so I quit cold turkey. I even had most of a pack left when I decided. I tossed 'em. Many "quitters" would have finished the pack.

I retain my capability to cease using cannabis at any time... can most heroin users say the same?

Junkies' lives are generally quite simple from my experience... instead of having many problems like most people, they have only one problem: to continue to obtain and use junk.


By the way, I think heroin and cocaine should be available over the counter.

[Antonio]

That being said, cannabis does not disappoint me. It has always performed as expected.

The "acceptable rebel" prescription in marijuana still works because its only mentally addictive, if it were physically addictive it would be feared as anything should be.

I've seen peoples lives ruined over it though. Not all at once, more or less like smoking tobacco but much more acute, a slow drain on the entire mental being until they can't really see the place they're in until its too late.

Me too, I`ve seen them. It`s not as much that health is ruined, it`s more of being chronically unproductive although some of the most productive people I`ve known chain-smoke it for their entire lives. Grass is completely unpredictable while opiates offer a totally predictable experience everytime, dope highs are like a mass-produced product while grass is custom-taylored to each person and each and every experience.
Grass appeals to lazy liberals while opium is a soldier`s drug, a perfect combat companion erasing fear and sharpening the concentration. Getting into a fight after smoking grass is a disaster while dope makes you psychologically bulletproof.
The healthiest grass experience can be had in a sauna, smoke a little before and then lie down in a steam room.
PS. I`m not trying to shit on grass but I recognize the fact that there is such a thing as grass abuse. Thank God it is never malignant as any other drug abuse. It should be completely legal and a culture of responsible use must be developed.


I would never abuse cannabis. We have a very loving relationship.

I'm not knocking opium.... it's strong enough to be effective, but mild enough so as to not be the bitch that heroin/morphine/methadone or even worse, fentanyl can be.

Believe me, all opiates are the same except methadone and possibly suboxone, those 2 cause withdrawals that are much longer than all other natural and semisynthetic opioids, methadone is satan himself, whenever I had to drink it I knew this was a cup of cherry-flavored sorrow. One can enjoy opiates in moderation without developing physical dependance but your mind will be filled by cravings and all your willpower will be spent on not sliding into abuse of them.
What do you seek in reefer?Do you enjoy the spaced-out feeling when you stare at things completely absorbed in your own thoughts and don`t react when someone is calling you? You realize that being stoned cannot be hidden from other people whereas one can be full of dope and the only visible sign of intoxication is pin-point pupils?
Opiates were made addictive on purpose by whoever designed this world. If opiates were non-addictive physically, the human civilization would never come into being because everyone would be growing poppies and stuffing the juice into every hole in their bodies, nobody would even grow or even gather food...this shit is so pleasurable that it overtakes even the smartest people. Most people are correct in their not wanting to know what it`s like because when you develop a taste for them nothing really comes close and you better have a life extremely rich in "normal" pleasures if you want to survive the "divorce" from dope.

[vacuum]

Christianity is the height of being dishonest with oneself. Cross and weed were made for each other. Weed promises cheap relief for mental pain but never delivers it, same as churches.
Being psychologically whole is hard work, it doesn`t come from a pipe or a building stuffed with weak people.

Not necessarily. Perhaps all Christianity that we've had experience with, but that's because any popular movement that the general public participates in must contain lots of self-dishonesty. People can't be saved in groups, only individually. Jesus himself taught that many try but very few are saved....and of those who are, they mostly consist of misfits and outcasts. This virtually precludes a popular organization from showing the true way. This doesn't mean they are necessarily bad people, they're just not quite there yet.

[sirgonzo420]

That being said, cannabis does not disappoint me. It has always performed as expected.

The "acceptable rebel" prescription in marijuana still works because its only mentally addictive, if it were physically addictive it would be feared as anything should be.

I've seen peoples lives ruined over it though. Not all at once, more or less like smoking tobacco but much more acute, a slow drain on the entire mental being until they can't really see the place they're in until its too late.

Me too, I`ve seen them. It`s not as much that health is ruined, it`s more of being chronically unproductive although some of the most productive people I`ve known chain-smoke it for their entire lives. Grass is completely unpredictable while opiates offer a totally predictable experience everytime, dope highs are like a mass-produced product while grass is custom-taylored to each person and each and every experience.
Grass appeals to lazy liberals while opium is a soldier`s drug, a perfect combat companion erasing fear and sharpening the concentration. Getting into a fight after smoking grass is a disaster while dope makes you psychologically bulletproof.
The healthiest grass experience can be had in a sauna, smoke a little before and then lie down in a steam room.
PS. I`m not trying to shit on grass but I recognize the fact that there is such a thing as grass abuse. Thank God it is never malignant as any other drug abuse. It should be completely legal and a culture of responsible use must be developed.


I would never abuse cannabis. We have a very loving relationship.

I'm not knocking opium.... it's strong enough to be effective, but mild enough so as to not be the bitch that heroin/morphine/methadone or even worse, fentanyl can be.

Believe me, all opiates are the same except methadone and possibly suboxone, those 2 cause withdrawals that are much longer than all other natural and semisynthetic opioids, methadone is satan himself, whenever I had to drink it I knew this was a cup of cherry-flavored sorrow. One can enjoy opiates in moderation without developing physical dependance but your mind will be filled by cravings and all your willpower will be spent on not sliding into abuse of them.
What do you seek in reefer?Do you enjoy the spaced-out feeling when you stare at things completely absorbed in your own thoughts and don`t react when someone is calling you? You realize that being stoned cannot be hidden from other people whereas one can be full of dope and the only visible sign of intoxication is pin-point pupils?



we're getting a bit off topic. I'll take it to PM.

lol

[Antonio]

Christianity is the height of being dishonest with oneself. Cross and weed were made for each other. Weed promises cheap relief for mental pain but never delivers it, same as churches.
Being psychologically whole is hard work, it doesn`t come from a pipe or a building stuffed with weak people.

Not necessarily. Perhaps all Christianity that we've had experience with, but that's because any popular movement that the general public participates in must contain lots of self-dishonesty. People can't be saved in groups, only individually. Jesus himself taught that many try but very few are saved....and of those who are, they mostly consist of misfits and outcasts. This virtually precludes a popular organization from showing the true way. This doesn't mean they are necessarily bad people, they're just not quite there yet.


I wouldn`t join any club that would have me as a member. Christianity is based on a few crazy ideas the main of which is that some Jewish dude up there loves you and does it full-time. Christians are addicted to being loved, even the imaginary kind. My church has been the gym for most of my life. I`d rather be healthy and strong than loved. People who put being loved by an imaginary being on top of their priorities will do desperate things for a chance of being loved by living humans. I cannot be manipulated by imaginary God and certainly won`t be manipulated by any human.

[vacuum]

Christianity is the height of being dishonest with oneself. Cross and weed were made for each other. Weed promises cheap relief for mental pain but never delivers it, same as churches.
Being psychologically whole is hard work, it doesn`t come from a pipe or a building stuffed with weak people.

Not necessarily. Perhaps all Christianity that we've had experience with, but that's because any popular movement that the general public participates in must contain lots of self-dishonesty. People can't be saved in groups, only individually. Jesus himself taught that many try but very few are saved....and of those who are, they mostly consist of misfits and outcasts. This virtually precludes a popular organization from showing the true way. This doesn't mean they are necessarily bad people, they're just not quite there yet.


I wouldn`t join any club that would have me as a member. [GSUS? :D As illustrated by the sun coming in the clouds :o] Christianity is based on a few crazy ideas the main of which is that some Jewish dude up there loves you and does it full-time. Christians are addicted to being loved, even the imaginary kind. My church has been the gym for most of my life. I`d rather be healthy and strong than loved. People who put being loved by an imaginary being on top of their priorities will do desperate things for a chance of being loved by living humans. I cannot be manipulated by imaginary God and certainly won`t be manipulated by any human.

Again, I'll say that the popular understanding isn't complete. You're right that love is the central idea. Love is the only thing that resists universal decay, and achieving it is the goal. Note that being loved doesn't isn't the goal, but exhibiting it yourself.

Love takes many forms. In the animal world it is physical love, which is the force behind reproduction and keeps the species renewed and self-sustaining. In our world, we must achieve it to keep from decaying and dying ourselves, otherwise inside we'll die. There are two ways we do it, by loving others (Christian or Christ love), or by loving oneself, also known as the left-hand path.

Higher than that are forms of love difficult for us to understand, related to the universe, what you see when you look at the stars. Christ exhibits a personal love, but this form is impersonal and transcendental.

As far as Jesus, he was different than Christ. There is no coincidence that there is so much imagery common between Christ and the Sun. Many say this disproves Christianity, but consider for a moment if both were true.

[Antonio]

Love is the most overvalued commodity. Those who control us stuff our heads with the idea that love is the most important, even that love is God and vs versa. Ever think why most art both classical and pop deals with love, the countless inane love songs etc not to mention all the tasteless literary works? I have developed a rather low opinion about Homo Sapiens and prefer felines.
I`m sorry if this sounds a bit Hitleresque, he said the more he knew people the more he liked his dogs.

The more you love human females, the less they will love you. It used to be that I had to make an effort to hide the real love I had for them so they would still be interested. I`m happy that I no longer have to make that effort. I have nothing to hide, literally. I`m as stone-cold as it gets.

Love is for people in average circumstances. If you are on top of the world professionally, money-wise or extremely talented in some way you will discover that most people will hate you. If you have a deadly disease or simply lose your luck you will again learn that love exists only on FM radio.

[Neuro]

What do you seek in reefer?Do you enjoy the spaced-out feeling when you stare at things completely absorbed in your own thoughts and don`t react when someone is calling you?
If you smoke a bit less, it is more enjoyable and social. Sometimes I feel a bit awkward and stiff in social settings, having a small amount of weed does help. Further I find that it intensifies and prolongs having sex, makes it somewhat more spiritual than physical. That is the best way to describe it I think. It sorts of desensitize the penis somewhat, making me more focused on other things in lovemaking. Does anyone else experience these effects?

[Antonio]

What do you seek in reefer?Do you enjoy the spaced-out feeling when you stare at things completely absorbed in your own thoughts and don`t react when someone is calling you?
If you smoke a bit less, it is more enjoyable and social. Sometimes I feel a bit awkward and stiff in social settings, having a small amount of weed does help. Further I find that it intensifies and prolongs having sex, makes it somewhat more spiritual than physical. That is the best way to describe it I think. It sorts of desensitize the penis somewhat, making me more focused on other things in lovemaking. Does anyone else experience these effects?


Right on,bro! Pot can make screwing a lot more enjoyable,absolutely. I think it magnifies the pleasure but since it makes me crazy for the first 30-60 minutes I tend to avoid it if I can. Drugs can prolong sex, especially benzodiazepins, a tiny bit of valium can make men break records in terms of endurance in bed. I do feel pretty stiff in social situations being extremely introverted, I rely on benzos again, a 1/4 of a xanax works wonders, one becomes very balanced and genuinely relaxed, weed would give me away, I get red eyes and heavy upper eyelids. Those social situations where I could show up high on weed do not scare me enough so that I had to smoke it, does this make sense? When I have to deal with "important" uptight people who scrutinize my every vital sign, I take benzos. Trust me, benzos help people to fool lie detector tests, so they really do the job. Also, beta-blockers such as Inderal, Toprol etc can be useful in such situations, again in very small doses otherwise you will appear intoxicated.

[lapis]

I found this excerpt (http://books.google.com/books?id=SdZFPeTQyX4C&pg=PA275&lpg=PA275&dq=mood+cure+%2B+marijuana+addiction&source=bl&ots=8Cf1AKZqvD&sig=sDhxmQzwzdgNJbzmrL2dU3K3w3k&hl=en&ei=tlCXTZCNDsTQiALitaWdCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=mood%20cure%20%2B%20marijuana%20addiction&f=false)from The Mood Cure about marijuana:


If you find yourself getting defensive about your marijuana use and dismissing its darker addictive side, just remember that marijuana growing is no longer a cottage industry. It is one of the biggest and most profitable businesses on earth. It drives one hundred pot-heads a month to the detox center at the Haight Clinic in San Francisco, begging for help in escaping from their “natural” drug. Marijuana is not a natural plant now. It's been hybridized to a potency thousands of times greater than it had in the early 1960s, when it really was just a “weed.” [So I wonder if it's totally unfair to compare the marijuana of today to the one that Jesus may or may not have used thousands of years ago?]

Just as many people can drink alcohol without getting addicted, many people are also able to smoke some marijuana without getting addicted. But, particularly if you come from an addictive family, you may have the gene that makes any strictly social use of marijuana—as well as alcohol or any other drug—impossible. Marijuana addiction is common. Chapters of Marijuana Anonymous have sprung up all over the country in the past fifteen years.

[…]

Marijuana's most potent, mood-altering ingredient, THC (tetrahydrocannabinol), is fat-soluble; it lodges in the fatty cell walls of your brain cells and lingers in your body longer than any other drugs or alcohol. This means that marijuana can significantly alter your brain and your mood even between highs. This is why people can have consistent personality changes after they start smoking marijuana but have no awareness of it. The tendency for marijuana to store and build up in your brain means that if you've been a heavy marijuana smoker, it can take a year or more to get marijuana completely out of your system and get back to your real self. The fog will clear only gradually.

[…]

Since marijuana concentrates in the cell walls all over the brain, it can affect any and all neurotransmitters. To choose the best supplements for you, take those that relate directly to the reason you smoke. Do you use marijuana for energy, to relax, to kill pain, or for all three reasons?

Julia Ross recommends consuming 30 grams of protein at each meal, along with satiating saturated fats and taking amino acids and supplements like L-tyrosine, GABA, taurine and glycine, depending on the reasons you're drawn to the drug.

[Santa]

Cannabis has very unique characteristics that are often misinterpreted.

First, it expands and intensifies one's immediate spacial perception and this is often felt as wooziness.
Because of this altered perception, many people will feel outside their personal rigid control zone
which is where that sense of paranoia comes from.

The uniqueness is in the sense of expanding space. If space and everything within it expands, then existentially
that which makes up our immediate experience, or reality, becomes fluid and malleable, rather than
hard and impermeable.

It makes me laugh to realize reality is a subjective flowing breathing experience rather than a separate objective.

Once this state of subjective experience is realized, it allows the self (me) to feel that sense of connection to existence
more easily. That sense of connection, or the fluid that holds everything together is called love.

Love is sort of like water to a fish. It's the environment that holds life together. Being without love is like a fish out of water.

While love may not be God, love is the medium through which He operates.

So, why wouldn't Jesus use Cannabis?

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

National Cancer Institute Finally Recognizes anti-tumor and anti-cancer effects of THC and CBD.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4#Section_26


Laboratory/Animal/Preclinical Studies

Cannabinoids are a group of 21 carbon terpenophenolic compounds produced uniquely by Cannabis sativa and Cannabis indica species.[1,2] These plant-derived compounds may be referred to as phytocannabinoids. Although delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is the primary psychoactive ingredient, other known compounds with biologic activity are cannabinol, cannabidiol, cannabichromene, cannabigerol, tetrahydrocannabivirin, and delta-8-THC. Cannabidiol, in particular, is thought to have significant analgesic and anti-inflammatory activity without the psychoactive effect (high) of delta-9-THC.

Antitumor Effects

One study in mice and rats suggested that cannabinoids may have a protective effect against the development of certain types of tumors. [3] During this 2-year study, groups of mice and rats were given various doses of THC by gavage. A dose-related decrease in the incidence of hepatic adenoma tumors and hepatocellular carcinoma was observed in the mice. Decreased incidences of benign tumors (polyps and adenomas) in other organs (mammary gland, uterus, pituitary, testis, and pancreas) were also noted in the rats. In another study, delta-9-THC, delta-8-THC, and cannabinol were found to inhibit the growth of Lewis lung adenocarcinoma cells in vitro and in vivo .[4] In addition, other tumors have been shown to be sensitive to cannabinoid-induced growth inhibition.[5-8]

Cannabinoids may cause antitumor effects by various mechanisms, including induction of cell death, inhibition of cell growth, and inhibition of tumor angiogenesis and metastasis. [9-11] Cannabinoids appear to kill tumor cells but do not affect their nontransformed counterparts and may even protect them from cell death. These compounds have been shown to induce apoptosis in glioma cells in culture and induce regression of glioma tumors in mice and rats. Cannabinoids protect normal glial cells of astroglial and oligodendroglial lineages from apoptosis mediated by the CB1 receptor. [10,11]

In an in vivo model using severe combined immunodeficient mice, subcutaneous tumors were generated by inoculating the animals with cells from human non-small cell lung carcinoma cell lines.[12] Tumor growth was inhibited by 60% in THC-treated mice compared with vehicle-treated control mice. Tumor specimens revealed that THC had antiangiogenic and antiproliferative effects.

In addition, both plant-derived and endogenous cannabinoids have been studied for anti- inflammatory effects. A mouse study demonstrated that endogenous cannabinoid system signaling is likely to provide intrinsic protection against colonic inflammation. [13] As a result, a hypothesis that phytocannabinoids and endocannabinoids may be useful in the prevention and treatment of colorectal cancer has been developed.[14]

Another study has shown delta-9-THC is a potent and selective antiviral agent against Kaposi sarcoma-associated herpesvirus (KSHV), also known as human herpesvirus 8.[15] The researchers concluded that additional studies on cannabinoids and herpesviruses are warranted, as they may lead to the development of drugs that inhibit the reactivation of these oncogenic viruses. Subsequently, another group of investigators reported increased efficiency of KSHV infection of human dermal microvascular epithelial cells in the presence of low doses of delta-9-THC.[16]

Appetite Stimulation

Many animal studies have previously demonstrated that delta-9-THC and other cannabinoids have a stimulatory effect on appetite and increase food intake. It is believed that the endogenous cannabinoid system may serve as a regulator of feeding behavior. The endogenous cannabinoid anandamide potently enhances appetite in mice.[17] Moreover, CB1 receptors in the hypothalamus may be involved in the motivational or reward aspects of eating.[18]
Analgesia

Understanding the mechanism of cannabinoid-induced analgesia has been increased through the study of cannabinoid receptors, endocannabinoids, and synthetic agonists and antagonists. The CB1 receptor is found in both the central nervous system (CNS) and in peripheral nerve terminals. Similar to opioid receptors, increased levels of the CB1 receptor are found in sections of the brain that regulate nociceptive processing.[19] CB2 receptors, located predominantly in peripheral tissue, exist at very low levels in the CNS. With the development of receptor-specific antagonists, additional information about the roles of the receptors and endogenous cannabinoids in the modulation of pain has been obtained.[20,21]

Cannabinoids may also contribute to pain modulation through an anti-inflammatory mechanism; a CB2 effect with cannabinoids acting on mast cell receptors to attenuate the release of inflammatory agents, such as histamine and serotonin, and on keratinocytes to enhance the release of analgesic opioids has been described.[22-24]

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[Santa]

So, why wouldn't Jesus use Cannabis?




Because He didn't need to/didn't want to.
He didn't need a substance to help him with his mental & emotional coping needs that people use it for.


I appreciate your opinion, Heb Lady. He led by example. That would be my opinion. :)

[Awoke]

Great post, OHL!

[ximmy]

Jesus performed no healing miracles, he simply used aspirin.

Evidence shows Jesus used aspirin to cure. Jesus learned to make an aspirin derivative by following the instructions of Hippocrates who left historical records of pain relief treatments, including the use of powder made from the bark and leaves of the willow tree to help heal headaches, pains and fevers & other maladies. Jesus would leave his disciples and spend time late at night concocting willow plant potions for the coming day's display of supposed divine intervention. We are now certain Jesus used aspirin to perform healing and restoration on persons. The Miraculous myths believed by naive disciples can now be proven to be false.

Some of the ailments healed by aspirin:

Healing Simon Peter's Mother-in-law
Cleansing a Leper
Healing a Centurion's Servant
Healing a Paralytic
Restoring a Man's Withered Hand
Healing a Woman's Hemorrhage
Restoring Sight to Two Blind Men
Healing a Syro-Phoenician Girl
Healing a Deaf Mute
Giving Sight to a Blind Man at Bethsaida
Restoring a Woman Crippled for Eighteen Years
Healing a Man with Dropsy
Cleansing Ten Men of Leprosy
Giving Sight to a Blind Man (or 2 Men) at Jericho
Healing a Royal Official's Son at Cana
Healing a Man at the Pool of Bethesda in Jerusalem
Giving Sight to a Man Blind since Birth
Healing a Slave's Severed Ear

::) ximmy

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

So, why wouldn't Jesus use Cannabis?




Because He didn't need to/didn't want to.
He didn't need a substance to help him with his mental & emotional coping needs that people use it for.



We're probably going to have to agree to disagree. Again, what about the story of the pure spikenard balm? John 12:3 - Jesus uses Spikenard. I don't see how using a balm of cannabis on his feet would be any different from applying a balm of spikenard.



Rats are not people. (unless you're talking about gov't people)

The government want you to want it.
Keep smoking it. keep buying it, growing it , whatever,
TPTB knows how badly you crave it and want it & need it for whatever reasons .
The theory that if it is against the law than it "must- be -good- to- heal- cancer" is very misunderstood.
Also, it's description in helping to heal cancer is not healing it, it supresses the symptoms just like the prescription drugs do.


I respect you a lot so please do not think my tone is against you. You see my eyes as closed on this matter, and I see your eyes as closed on this matter.

I have proof from my own life that topical cannabis treatments can reduce or cure cancer in humans. (Rats are not people.) I personally helped a 50+ year old woman avoid cancer surgury on her face with home-made topical cannabis balm which was provided to her free of cost for the duration. The tumor went away after three months of use and she never went under the knife. Please consider the possibility that EVERY STUDY YOU HAVE EVER READ from 1950~1990 regarding cannabis was FALSIFIED, blatantly so - studies from those time periods are bad science and they are NOT REPEATABLE.

(The government want you to want it. ) Only in the regard that prohibition is a $40,000,000,000/YEAR industry and is growing by leaps and bounds every year. They make money criminalizing non-violent individuals who are not breaking the common law.

(Keep smoking it. keep buying it, growing it , whatever) Growing is free. It is the most open-source model I know. Growing completely cuts the govt out of the picture - they receive no fees, no taxes, no subsidies, nothing. Since they have no financial incentive to support growers, then your theory must be that they have a negative-spiritual incentive? I.E. They're allowing individuals to harm themselves? That's your theory?

(TPTB knows how badly you crave it and want it & need it for whatever reasons .) I do not need it. I do not use it like a drunk uses booze. I choose to use it, sparingly and at certain times, for personal reasons and it has made me a better person. Because of cannabis, I use caffeine and booze very sparingly, perhaps a few times per year - and daily I meditate and pray - SOBER. If you want to have a discussion about this in PM I will tell you about my past (no, I was never an addict or anything like that - but I was a SLAVE to big pharma since the day I arrived in this world) and why I consider my life to be better now than before. It is an introspective tool and the individuals who freak out are simply not prepared for that level of revelation because it brings their self-told lies crashing down around them.

(The theory that if it is against the law than it "must- be -good- to- heal- cancer" is very misunderstood.
Also, it's description in helping to heal cancer is not healing it, it supresses the symptoms just like the prescription drugs do.)

This is just false. It eliminates tumors and I have seen this happen with my own eyes. It is anti-mutagenic and stops mutating cells in their tracks. You cannot deny the hundreds of individuals who have come forward through the "Rick Simpson Project" stating that they were terminal stage IV cancer patients whose lives were saved at the last moment by 100% essential oil of the plant Cannabis Rustica.


I'm sorry we have to disagree on this when we agree on so much else. TPTB cannot control this natural plant, and honestly they really act like they hate it, they spend billions trying to completely erradicate it - if you have any interest in bringing me around to your point of view I think you still have a bit of typing left to do...And I'm sure the same goes for me...

When you talk about this plant I am sensing anger...can we chat privately?

[Antonio]

Jesus used Tylenol and occasional Advil.

PS. Herb Lady, I thank you for taking the time to post about our love dilemmas (I say our because I`m far from being alone in this).
What makes you think I`ve ever done this with a crack whore? Do you think I`m stupid or desperate enough to do this in NYC where 1/4 of PHDs carry some STDs? I can hardly think of an instance of being in bed with a woman who didn`t have a PHD or at least was on her way there. I`m one of those lucky NYC men who are completely STD-free.
Do you think I would let a woman manipulate me and then dump me after giving me a gift that keeps on giving?
What is the difference between love and herpes? Herpes is forever.
I couldn`t say no to dope for 3 years but I`m more than capable of saying no to a gorgeous but probably diseased woman
(there are plenty of loose women in music business, their drug is promiscuity.)

When I have to reject their advances I say I adore them as if they were my sisters, it would feel like incest. This line works everytime, these stupid sluts almost have tears of joy in their eyes, they say nobody appreciates them as persons the way I do and everyone just wants their bodies. Inside I`m rofl because I feel they should be euthanized like rabid dogs who spread their STDs :ROFL:.

In a way I`m thankful for all the betrayal I`ve experienced by both women,friends and relatives. It has opened my eyes to human nature and worked like a vaccine, nobody is going to betray me again. I prefer to be informed at all times rather than chasing some imaginary feelings that produce endorphines in my brain, you can get real honest endophines in the gym without having to delude yourself.

[Awoke]

Just for the record, Christ healed with the divine power of the Holy Spirit. He is God. He has no need to use cannabis. He can do anything.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Just for the record, Christ healed with the divine power of the Holy Spirit. He is God. He has no need to use cannabis. He can do anything.


That's kind of the point, right?

John12:3 has Jesus using pure spikenard balm. Are there other instances of him using herbs?

He can turn water to wine. He can heal with or without his hands, and even reverse death.

So why does he use herbs at all?

Because he chooses to.


I don't think anyone is here to state that his healings were actually done with herbs. I think the contention is simply - He used herbs.

[lapis]

Just for the record, Christ healed with the divine power of the Holy Spirit. He is God. He has no need to use cannabis. He can do anything.


I agree, although I think we all have the potential to access the divine Christ Consciousness within. In this state of Consciousness, there is no need for drugs or marijuana for cures, one simply merges with the Divine. But since most of us are just normally in ordinary mortal consciousness, we need to use one crutch or another in order to be "cured" of problems.




So why does he use herbs at all?

Because some people need/needed that sort of doing-of-something-to-them in order to believe that they were undergoing the process of being cured.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Because some people need/needed that sort of doing-of-something-to-them in order to believe that they were undergoing the process of being cured.

Makes sense, I suppose, when he is healing the masses. But why is he using herbs on himself?

[freespirit]

i think that even though he performed miracles, he may have used herbs so as to teach us how to use them. none of us can perform miracles like he did, but he was a teacher, no? is it not possible he was teaching us herbal medicine?

[Santa]

Just for the record, Christ healed with the divine power of the Holy Spirit. He is God. He has no need to use cannabis. He can do anything.


Sure. He didn't "need" to use wine, or oil or bread either but he did. So why not cannabis?

[Bullion_Bob]

Stars, and planets, galaxies, entire universes created with a sweep of the hand.

Water to wine? Heck, Jesus could blink and pastures of weed would appear.

Snap his fingers and a big fatty would be there ready to go.

http://www.demotination.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/marijuana.jpg

[Antonio]

Take it from me, no drug can heal one`s spirit. Grass can alleviate certain physical pain without ruining your kidneys or liver like OTC painkillers or ruining you thru an addiction like opiates.
If you hang on to the hairy Jewish boy hoping he will heal your spirit you need to re-read Eli Ravage Case Against Jews and Voltaire`s quotes about Xtianity.
The only things that can keep you together mentally is fitness/nutrition and lots of honest hard work.
Anything else like grass or Jesus is a miserable escape for weak people.
Harden the fuck up and do some deadlifts.

[lapis]

i think that even though he performed miracles, he may have used herbs so as to teach us how to use them. none of us can perform miracles like he did, but he was a teacher, no? is it not possible he was teaching us herbal medicine?


Yes, he taught people to use them because they're in the normal state of consciousness that doesn't believe in miracles, and need some training wheels in order to access something higher.

But his believers (and this also means you and me) were meant to perform miracles:


John 14:12, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."

[lapis]

If you hang on to the hairy Jewish boy hoping he will heal your spirit you need to re-read Eli Ravage Case Against Jews and Voltaire`s quotes about Xtianity.
The only things that can keep you together mentally is fitness/nutrition and lots of honest hard work.
Anything else like grass or Jesus is a miserable escape for weak people.
Harden the fuck up and do some deadlifts.


*Chuckle* Well just because some people use their belief in Jesus as an excuse to act in not very Christian ways, doesn't mean his teachings don't have value. How many of us can truly love our neighbors as ourselves? It's very difficult to.

Or how about Matthew 6:26 and 28~30:

"Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?"

"And why take you thought for raiment [clothes]? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: and yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and tomorrow is cast into the oven, shall He not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith."

I know most Christians will disagree with me, but I take this as a commandment NOT to worry about material things, including preparation for any kind of DOOOOM! scenario.

[Bullion_Bob]

Take it from me, no drug can heal one`s spirit. Grass can alleviate certain physical pain without ruining your kidneys or liver like OTC painkillers or ruining you thru an addiction like opiates.
If you hang on to the hairy Jewish boy hoping he will heal your spirit you need to re-read Eli Ravage Case Against Jews and Voltaire`s quotes about Xtianity.
The only things that can keep you together mentally is fitness/nutrition and lots of honest hard work.
Anything else like grass or Jesus is a miserable escape for weak people.
Harden the fuck up and do some deadlifts.


Ever smoke a Sativa that actually gives you the energy to go for a run? I have many times. Everyone is different.

[Antonio]

Take it from me, no drug can heal one`s spirit. Grass can alleviate certain physical pain without ruining your kidneys or liver like OTC painkillers or ruining you thru an addiction like opiates.
If you hang on to the hairy Jewish boy hoping he will heal your spirit you need to re-read Eli Ravage Case Against Jews and Voltaire`s quotes about Xtianity.
The only things that can keep you together mentally is fitness/nutrition and lots of honest hard work.
Anything else like grass or Jesus is a miserable escape for weak people.
Harden the fuck up and do some deadlifts.


Ever smoke a Sativa that actually gives you the energy to go for a run? I have many times. Everyone is different.


Sure I did plenty of working out stoned, grass doesn`t improve strength, I did this usually when I wanted to work out lightly after a sleepless night.
When you are sleep-deprived you body is swimming in catabolic hormones and adrenalin, grass lowers the adrenalin or so it seems so it can spare the muscle tissue under stress plus give you appetite. There is absolutely nothing wrong with occasionally tweaking your metabolism by grass but make sure you don`t try smoking grass due to spiritual problems, it may lead you to singing hymns to Jesus which is a complete personality disintegration if you ask me...

[lapis]

Voltaire`s quotes about Xtianity.

Aha! Yes, some very good ones, some very pointed remarks. And I'm sorry but I do agree with Voltaire with the most part, and some of his criticisms are the reasons why I no longer consider myself a Christian (although I am still a secret Jesus freak). I have been, since a child, disappointed in one church after another. It started with the third grade, when I started to read the Old Testament critically and realized I didn't like the God it was portraying.

My father, a southern Baptist always encouraged me to go to church in order to "meet the right kind of people," especially men. ::)

In high school I was in a church that had some prominent sports stars as members, and it was all the minister's wife would talk about. That was the last one I belonged to. And through the years, I've been very disappointed and disillusioned with the way people who claim they're Christian behave, especially towards the weak and the outcasts of society (the very people Christians are supposed to help). Sure there's a lot of "Christian" organizations that also give free food and shelter, but people have to listen to a sermon first. Why not give the food first, and let them decide whether or not they want to stick around?

It's because of this that if I have to claim any sort of religious affinity, I choose the much-maligned Unity or Science of Mind and similar organizations over any Christian one. One of the reasons is the members: they are the ones who are actually kind people who do things like help bring food to the elderly and to dying AIDS patients, and do outreach work in Mexican orphanages. But mainly, they're nice and spiritual and I don't feel like they're judging what I'm wearing.

[Horn]

I know most Christians will disagree with me, but I take this as a commandment NOT to worry about material things, including preparation for any kind of DOOOOM! scenario.


Are you providing a sword unto which all my brothers can throw themselves upon?

[lapis]

Are you providing a sword unto which all my brothers can throw themselves upon?

LOL. Hey I didn't write the words! Don't blame me.

But really, we ought to have a little more faith in our Creator, and not judge things solely by appearances (and yes it's very hard for me to do that).

[Antonio]

Lapis, look at what the Russian Orthodox Church is doing these days. They are building new, incredibly luxurious churches stuffed with 24k gold framed icons and altars cast in tons of pure silver while 2 million Russian kids are homeless. Sure, there are tiny parishes where true compassion is #1 priority and I`ll never say one bad word about them. But on the whole the church is a gigantic faggy scam and a ZOG tool. The commies were right when they tore out all the gold and silver from the churches in 1917. Gold and silver inside a church is an abomination while people are starving outside. I don`t think Jesus ever existed but if he is up there, he is so busy puking that he needs to smoke purple haze by now to relieve his terminal nausea.

[lapis]

Lapis, look at what the Russian Orthodox Church is doing these days. They are building new, incredibly luxurious churches stuffed with 24k gold framed icons and altars cast in tons of pure silver while 2 million Russian kids are homeless. Sure, there are tiny parishes where true compassion is #1 priority and I`ll never say one bad word about them. But on the whole the church is a gigantic faggy scam and a ZOG tool. The commies were right when they tore out all the gold and silver from the churches in 1917. Gold and silver inside a church is an abomination while people are starving outside. I don`t think Jesus ever existed but if he is up there, he is so busy puking that he needs to smoke purple haze by now to relieve his terminal nausea.

Haha! You always give me a good laugh Antonio. Thank you. :)

Here's an applicable Bible quote for those churches: "Ye shall know them by their fruits."

[Horn]

But really, we ought to have a little more faith in our Creator, and not judge things solely by appearances (and yes it's very hard for me to do that).

And he said unto them, Have three (and only three) not 2, nor 4, silver ounces placed a side, as a hedge bet against faith? ;D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOrgLj9lOwk

[Antonio]

Lapis, look at what the Russian Orthodox Church is doing these days. They are building new, incredibly luxurious churches stuffed with 24k gold framed icons and altars cast in tons of pure silver while 2 million Russian kids are homeless. Sure, there are tiny parishes where true compassion is #1 priority and I`ll never say one bad word about them. But on the whole the church is a gigantic faggy scam and a ZOG tool. The commies were right when they tore out all the gold and silver from the churches in 1917. Gold and silver inside a church is an abomination while people are starving outside. I don`t think Jesus ever existed but if he is up there, he is so busy puking that he needs to smoke purple haze by now to relieve his terminal nausea.

Haha! You always give me a good laugh Antonio. Thank you. :)

Here's an applicable Bible quote for those churches: "Ye shall know them by their fruits."


Just look at these fags:
http://www.tolerance.ca/image/Russian_Orthodox_Church_-_kremlin.ru_731_G.jpg

You can feed the entire country and build 5th-generation planes if you scrap PMs from one of those homosexual brothels.

[Book]

Just for the record, Christ healed with the divine power of the Holy Spirit. He is God. He has no need to use cannabis. He can do anything.



http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/8/7/8/i/4/0/0/o/smokemarijuana.jpg

Dude. What does that Jesus guy have to do with this way cool GSUS pothead party thread?

:D

[freespirit]

here's a little beauty i like to smoke when i can get it...

gotta love northern lights.

[Awoke]

That even looks Canadian, FS!

[sirgonzo420]

Just for the record, Christ healed with the divine power of the Holy Spirit. He is God. He has no need to use cannabis. He can do anything.



http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/8/7/8/i/4/0/0/o/smokemarijuana.jpg

Dude. What does that Jesus guy have to do with this way cool GSUS pothead party thread?

:D


You should smoke sometime, book.

[StackerKen]

Cannabis can change lives for the better.

It has been used medicinally for over 5000 years...Why does the US government say it has no medicinal use?

Yet, the US has a Patent on it http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6630507.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_otUB7pVMA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cQrT0sDxyc

[StackerKen]

Herb lady...Medical Cannabis is Not just about THC

There are non psychoactive parts of the plant as well called Cannabidiol —CBD


From Project CBD


http://projectcbd.org/






Cannabidiol —CBD— is a compound in Cannabis that has medical effects but does not make people feel “stoned” and actually counters some of the effects of THC. After decades in which only high-THC Cannabis was available, CBD-rich strains are now being grown by and for medical users.
The reduced psychoactivity of CBD-rich Cannabis may make it an appealing treatment option for patients seeking anti-inflammatory, anti-pain, anti-anxiety and/or anti-spasm effects without disconcerting euphoria or lethargy.
Scientific and clinical studies indicate that CBD could be effective in easing symptoms of a wide range of difficult-to-control conditions, including: rheumatoid arthritis, diabetes, alcoholism, PTSD, epilepsy, antibiotic-resistant infections and neurological disorders. CBD has demonstrated neuroprotective effects, and its anti-cancer potential is currently being explored at several academic research centers in the U.S. and other countries.

In the spring of 1998, the British government licensed a company called GW Pharmaceuticals to grow Cannabis and develop a precisely consistent plant extract for use in clinical trials. GW's co-founder Geoffrey Guy, MD, was convinced —and had convinced the Home Office— that by using CBD-rich plants, GW could produce a Cannabis-based medicine with little or no psychoactive effect. That summer Guy described his approach at a meetingof the International Cannabinoid Research Society. In addition to countering the psychoactivity of THC, Guy said, CBD conferred benefits of its own. Queen Victoria had used CBD-rich Cannabis for menstrual cramps. Indeed, animal studies suggest that CBD lessened anxiety and reduced the severity and frequency of seizures.
It was assumed that generations of breeding for maximum THC had reduced CBD in California cannabis to trace levels. GW had gotten its CBD-rich strains by acquiring the genetic library of HortaPharm, a Dutch seed company run by American ex-pat naturalists, David Watson and Robert Clarke. Tod Mikuriya, MD, founder of the Society of Cannabis Clinicians, expressed hope that "our Burbanks in the hills" would have preserved or could develop CBD-rich strains if and when an analytic test lab began serving the medical Cannabis industry.
As the years went by, more and more promising studies involving CBD were described at meetings of the ICRS, the International Association for Cannabinoid Medicine, and Patients Out of Time. California doctors kept abreast of the research and O'Shaughnessy's reported on it, but we were merely observers, not participants —until the fall of 2008, when Oakland's Steep Hill Laboratory began testing samples provided by Harborside Health Center.
Approximately one in 750 samples of Cannabis being grown for medical use is turning out to be CBD-rich. (For data collection purposes, "CBD-rich" has been defined as 4% or more by dry weight.) Doctors and patients now have a unique opportunity to evaluate its effects.

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http://www.pokerblog.com/wsop-fashion-report-potheads-of-poker.html

Potheads of Poker

[dys]

Love is the most overvalued commodity. Those who control us stuff our heads with the idea that love is the most important, even that love is God and vs versa. Ever think why most art both classical and pop deals with love, the countless inane love songs etc not to mention all the tasteless literary works? I have developed a rather low opinion about Homo Sapiens and prefer felines.
I`m sorry if this sounds a bit Hitleresque, he said the more he knew people the more he liked his dogs.

The more you love human females, the less they will love you. It used to be that I had to make an effort to hide the real love I had for them so they would still be interested. I`m happy that I no longer have to make that effort. I have nothing to hide, literally. I`m as stone-cold as it gets.

Love is for people in average circumstances. If you are on top of the world professionally, money-wise or extremely talented in some way you will discover that most people will hate you. If you have a deadly disease or simply lose your luck you will again learn that love exists only on FM radio.




I know you are not a psychopath, narcissist, or stone heart, Antonio. These types never brag about how little they care, quite the opposite as fear of being discovered is the defining characteristic that all of them share. Nope, you are making the overcompensation play, and I call, to use a poker analogy.
I tell you with honesty and out of compassion, Jesus Christ is real. More real than me or you or anything you know. All of those brains you've got going on and all of that insight, let's just say that the enemy wants you bad.

"Do you know who Sam Gold is?"
"You should, because he knows who you are."
From the movie Revolver

dys

[Serpo]

Im not sure what all the fuss is about...........


I have only tried the shampoo and conditioner and found it too be the very best I know of.



These sites sell hemp oil in Australia

http://www.hempstore.com.au/hemp/hemp-oil/

http://hempaustralia.net.au/Hemp_PureHempSeedOil.html












Hemp Oil



Please note: We no longer sell hemp oil as it is now widely available from supermarkets and health food stores



Hemp seed and oil has been called "Nature’s Perfect Food for Humanity" - a wealth of health for everyone.




The oil can be used as part of a nutritional programme to maintain and improve good health. With a pleasant nutty flavour, Hemp Seed Oil is ideal for use in salad dressings, mayonnaise, dips etc. It is not suitable for frying as this reduces the benefits.



Hemp has had a long-standing relationship with humanity; modern science reveals that it contains all the essential amino acids and essential fatty acids necessary for human life, as well as a rare protein known as globule edestins that is very similar to the globulin found in human blood plasma.



Four years after the Marijuana Tax Act passed in the US, a researcher writing for a 1941 edition of Science lamented the loss of access to the hemp seed's rare and important globule edistins; "Passage of the Marijuana Law of 1937 has placed restrictions upon trade in hempseed that, in effect, amount to prohibition....”



Hemp seeds contain the most balanced and richest natural single source of essential oils for human consumption. The E.F.A.'s not only help to restore wasting bodies, but also improve damaged immune systems, so it is not so surprising that modern researchers have studied them in relationship to the modern immune attacking AIDS virus. (Eidlman, M.D., Hamilton, ED.D, Ph.D 1992).



Hemp oil is natures most balanced oil for human nutrition (3:1 LA to LNA ratio) and is easily digestible; in fact this oil could provide all of our Essential Fatty Acid (EFA) requirements for life, due to the balanced 80% EFA content of the oil.



Research has shown that this nutritional oil was once a part of worldwide dietary intake, as it was one of the first cultivated crops. All natural foods contain some substances, which are essential to life. Oils for example, found in nuts and seeds, contain significantly higher amounts of essential fatty acids than other foods.



Much information about Hemp has been systematically removed from written texts since the 1930's and is now difficult to find. Many of the myths about hemp, perpetuated by governments to this day relating to hemp being a drug crop are incorrect and simply propaganda created to make way for synthetic man made products.




Alpha Linolenic acid (LNA) Deficiency Symptoms - Omega 3



The symptoms of LNA deficiency include: Growth retardation, weakness, impairment of vision and learning ability, motor incoordination, tingling in arms and legs, behavioural changes.



Adding LNA back into the diet from which it is missing can reverse these symptoms. Other symptoms that can result from LNA (or w3) deficiency include; High triglycerides, high blood pressure, sticky platelets, tissue inflammation, edema, dry skin, mental deterioration, low metabolic rate, some kinds of immune dysfunction



Linoleic acid (LA) Deficiency Symptoms - Omega 6



The symptoms of LA deficiency include: Eczema-like skin eruptions, loss of hair, liver degeneration, behavioural disturbances, kidney degeneration, excessive water loss through the skin accompanied by thirst, drying up of glands, susceptibility to infections, failure of wound healing, sterility in males, miscarriage in females, arthritis-like conditions, heart and circulatory problems, growth retardation. Prolonged absence of LA from the diet is fatal. Adding LA back into the diet from which it is missing can reverse all of the deficiency symptoms.



In 1955 the Czechoslovakian Tubercular Nutrition Study concluded that hemp seed was the "Only food th
at can successfully treat the consumptive disease tuberculosis, in which the nutritive processes are impaired and the body wastes away"(Robinson 1996).


Dr Johana Budwig – A pioneer of Essential Fatty Acid Research



The seven-time Nobel Prize nominee, Dr. Johana Budwig, a pioneer of E.F.A research, reported success in treating heart infraction, arthritis, cancer and other common diseases with massive doses of E.F.A.'s. Budwig's research indicates that many of these killer and crippling diseases may be caused in part by our diet of saturated fat and trans-fat, which are present in much of the food we eat. According to this healing Doctor, saturated fat and trans-fat befuddle the electronic charge of the unsaturated oils, which are present in cell membranes.



‘This decreases the cells ability to receive and store electrons from the sun, which according to Budwig is a key factor in human health.’


Alternatively, a balanced diet of E.F.A’s keeps the charge of the unsaturated fats in the cells membranes working properly and electron rich. As Budwig herself explains:



"The sun's rays are very much in harmony with humans. It is no coincidence that we love the sun. The resonance in our biological tissue is so strongly tuned to the absorption of solar energy that physicists who occupy themselves with this scientific phenomenon, the quantum biologists say that there is nothing on earth that has a higher concentration of solar energy photons than humans. This enrichment with solar energy depends strongly on the like energy aspects, a wavelength that is compatible with humans, and this is supported when we eat foods that have electromagnetic waves of solar rays--the photon. An abundance of these electrons, which are tuned to the solar energy frequency, exist, for example, in many seed oils. Scientifically these oils have even been designated as electron-rich, essential, highly unsaturated fats. (Budwig 1992)



Budwig states that when we began to homogenize vegetable oils so that they would store better, we unknowingly changed their E.F.A. content into saturated fats in the ensuing heating process. These E.F.A. robbed, thus electron poor "promote the emergence of cancer.... They behave like tar, as insulators relative to the transport of electrons in living tissue." Alternatively, "electron-rich highly unsaturated oils... increase the absorption, storage and utilization of the sun's energy".



Budwig relates that after her ailing patients have been treated with an E.F.A. rich diet and then "lie in the sun, they notice they feel much better-rejuvenated"; (Budwig 1992) "On the other hand, nowadays we frequently observe that the heart fails on sunny beaches, and not infrequently heart attacks occur. We can observe some individuals in our time experiencing stress from exposure to the sun’s energy, whereas others respond with dynamic improvement in all vital functions. The stimulating effect that sunshine has on the secretions of the liver, gall bladder, pancreas, bladder, and salivary glands is easy to observe. These organs only dry out upon exposure to sunshine when the substance that stimulates secretions is missing. The decisive factor in all these observations is whether the surface-active, electron-rich, highly unsaturated fats are present as a resonating system for solar energy, or, if they are missing. The doctor tells cancer patients to avoid the sun; that they can't tolerate the sun. As soon as these patients--also cancer patients--were placed on my oil-Protein diet for just 2-3 days, i.e. a diet that contains an abundant supply of essential fats, they were able to tolerate the sun very well. Yes, they emphasize how well they suddenly feel in the sun, how the life forces are stimulated and that they feel dynamically energized."(Budwig 1992)


In times of worry about increased exposure to the sun's rays the E.F.A. rich oils provided by hemp may offer us hope. In her writings about the sun's effect on the cell membrane's electrons, Budwig referred to the work of the quantum physicist Dessauer, "If it were possible to increase the concentration of solar electrons tenfold in this biological electron rich molecule, man would live to be 10,000 years old."



Benefits of Cold Pressing



Oils should be pressed with a minimum of heat because the higher the temperature of the oil the faster it is destroyed by light, oxygen and other chemical reactions. The shape and properties of Fatty-acid molecules can change lowering their nutritional and biological value.



In the UK we do not have restrictions on pressing oil from live seed unlike America where the seed has to be killed by high temperatures to allow it to be imported. With this seed is it is not possible to press fresh living oil that remains stable with a longer shelf life. Hemp oil is legal in the UK.



How to use



With a pleasant nutty flavour, Hemp Seed Oil is ideal for use in salad dressings, mayonnaise, dips etc. Not suitable for frying as this reduces the benefits. May be taken as a nutritional supplement for general health and well being.



We recommend mixing with Barley Grass Powder, providing the benefits of the soluble proteins in Barley Grass Powder, along with all the huge array of other nutrients. (Organic yogurt can be used as an alternative Barley Grass Powder) Use 1 dessertspoons of Hemp oil to one heaped dessertspoon of Barley grass juice powder, (or half a cup of organic yogurt) half a glass of chemical free water, (do not use tap water, the chlorine in tap water turns nutrients into toxic, even carcinogenic chemicals!). This mix can be taken once or twice daily. The combination forms the basis of a powerful therapy that Dr Budwig used, and helps to deliver sunlight from sensible sun exposure to the cells for maximum benefit.



Hemp oil can also be used externally on the skin, easily absorbed and moisturising, suitable for poor condition skin.



From our batch tests, it appears that rancidity increases at an exponential rate. I.E. low PV value at time of pressing takes longer to oxidise. We have found that our oil has the ability to be stable for at least six months if stored in the refrigerator. Oil is pressed fresh for each order and then dispatched to the customer in dark brown glass bottles.



How much is needed?



Recommended daily intake for a person with an average build/ body fat profile is 2-4 dessert spoons (up to 50 ml) per day, or in the case of therapy this can be increased up to 150ml per day for approximately 7 days then reverting to the normal daily intake amount. The requirement of oil intake is now widely accepted as being 15%-20% of calorific requirement (daily average of 2000 calories for an average adult). EFA oils contain embodied energy of 9 calories per ml, which is mainly used by the body for structural, hormonal and electrical functions, rather than energy.



What are the beneficial properties of Hemp Seed Oil?



Because Hemp Seed Oil is such a rich source of both LA (Omega 6) and LNA (Omega 3) in balanced proportions, conditions caused by deficiencies in both can be treated with one oil.



The functions of LNA include: Production of smooth skin increased stamina, speeds healing, increases vitality, brings a feeling of calmness, reduces inflammation, water retention, platelet stickiness and blood pressure, enhances immune functions, reduces the pain and swelling of arthritis, can reverse pre-menstrual syndrome, can treat bacterial infections, brain development in children.



The functions of LA include



Energy production, growth vitality, mental state, oxygen transfer, formation of cell membrane, recovery from fatigue, secretion production in exocrine and endocrine glands, formation of prostaglandin's (to maintain cardiovascular system) keeping body fluids liquid, helping immune system resist and fight infection, prevention of allergies, functioning of heart tissue



The functions of GLA include



Conversion of LA to the beneficial prostaglandin's, cholesterol lowering actions, useful in treating degenerative diseases. The Oleic Acid (Omega 9) contained in Hemp Seed Oil helps keep arteries supple because of its fluidity. In excess Oleic acid can interfere with EFA's and prostaglandin's.



The low level of Stearic acid (18:0) in Hemp Seed Oil is beneficial as high levels of Stearic acid are more likely to form flow-impeding clots in blood vessels and work against the healing qualities of the EFA's.
Palmitic acid (16:0) commonly found as a high percentage in animal fats and tropical oils, it raises cholesterol levels.
Vitamins: are also present notably C, E, B1, B2 and carotene in a fat soluble, easily digestible form.
Minerals: mainly Phosphorus, Calcium, Potassium and Magnesium.


Please note, oils that have been high temperature and solvent extracted then refined (most oils in the supermarkets) do not have the benefits left in them but contain detrimental Trans-fatty acids from hydrogenation.



EFA's increase metabolic rate, therefore increasing fat burn-off, helping you to become slim. Not to be seen as a singular solution, exercise and good eating habits need to be taken into account.



Combining Barley Grass with Hemp Oil



Mixing Hemp Oil with Barley Grass Powder, provides the benefits of the soluble proteins in Barley Grass Powder, along with all the huge array of other nutrients. Use 1 or 2 dessertspoons of Hemp oil to one heaped dessertspoon of Barley grass juice powder, half a glass of chemical free water, (do not use tap water, the chlorine in tap water turns nutrients into toxic, even carcinogenic chemicals!). This mix can be taken once or twice daily. It is the combination of the proteins in Barley Grass Powder that protect the Hemp oil from degradation in the body. The combination forms the basis of a powerful therapy that Dr Budwig used, and helps to deliver sunlight from sensible sun exposure to the cells for maximum benefit.



Information sourced from Udo Erasmus excellent book "Fats that heal - Fats that kill"



Other recommended reading:



Kenneth Jones "Nutritional and Medical guide to Hemp Seed" ISBN-0-962563897



Dr. Johanna Budwig "Flax Oil as a true aid against arthritis, heart infraction, cancer and other diseases" ISBN-0-9695272-1-7.



Also, many old herbal books prior to the 1940's mention the benefits of hemp.



Disclaimer: Regenerative Nutrition advocates a holistic approach to natural health and wellbeing. The body's ability and power to heal depends upon the totality of diet, nutrition, lifestyle and environmental factors. No claims for the cure of any disease is intended, or implied. Always consult a health care practitioner when combating disease states. The statements in this article have not been approved by the FDA.


http://www.regenerativenutrition.com/content.asp?id=64

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Keeping the goyim preoccupied while they rob them blind.

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[StackerKen]

Herb lady...Medical Cannabis is Not just about THC

There are non psychoactive parts of the plant as well called Cannabidiol —CBD


From Project CBD


http://projectcbd.org/






Cannabidiol —CBD— is a compound in Cannabis that has medical effects but does not make people feel “stoned” and actually counters some of the effects of THC. After decades in which only high-THC Cannabis was available, CBD-rich strains are now being grown by and for medical users.
The reduced psychoactivity of CBD-rich Cannabis may make it an appealing treatment option for patients seeking anti-inflammatory, anti-pain, anti-anxiety and/or anti-spasm effects without disconcerting euphoria or lethargy.
Scientific and clinical studies indicate that CBD could be effective in easing symptoms of a wide range of difficult-to-control conditions, including: rheumatoid arthritis, diabetes, alcoholism, PTSD, epilepsy, antibiotic-resistant infections and neurological disorders. CBD has demonstrated neuroprotective effects, and its anti-cancer potential is currently being explored at several academic research centers in the U.S. and other countries.

In the spring of 1998, the British government licensed a company called GW Pharmaceuticals to grow Cannabis and develop a precisely consistent plant extract for use in clinical trials. GW's co-founder Geoffrey Guy, MD, was convinced —and had convinced the Home Office— that by using CBD-rich plants, GW could produce a Cannabis-based medicine with little or no psychoactive effect. That summer Guy described his approach at a meetingof the International Cannabinoid Research Society. In addition to countering the psychoactivity of THC, Guy said, CBD conferred benefits of its own. Queen Victoria had used CBD-rich Cannabis for menstrual cramps. Indeed, animal studies suggest that CBD lessened anxiety and reduced the severity and frequency of seizures.
It was assumed that generations of breeding for maximum THC had reduced CBD in California cannabis to trace levels. GW had gotten its CBD-rich strains by acquiring the genetic library of HortaPharm, a Dutch seed company run by American ex-pat naturalists, David Watson and Robert Clarke. Tod Mikuriya, MD, founder of the Society of Cannabis Clinicians, expressed hope that "our Burbanks in the hills" would have preserved or could develop CBD-rich strains if and when an analytic test lab began serving the medical Cannabis industry.
As the years went by, more and more promising studies involving CBD were described at meetings of the ICRS, the International Association for Cannabinoid Medicine, and Patients Out of Time. California doctors kept abreast of the research and O'Shaughnessy's reported on it, but we were merely observers, not participants —until the fall of 2008, when Oakland's Steep Hill Laboratory began testing samples provided by Harborside Health Center.
Approximately one in 750 samples of Cannabis being grown for medical use is turning out to be CBD-rich. (For data collection purposes, "CBD-rich" has been defined as 4% or more by dry weight.) Doctors and patients now have a unique opportunity to evaluate its effects.


some hybrid junk going to come up with ways to make higher CBD = medicine


Nope... Ditch weed and Cannabis seed plants have High CBD...It was Bred out by they stoners

Now its is being brought back....


Sorry you are so closed minded towards this amazing plant.

It is not widely known that Hemp seed is the highest in essential fatty acids of any plant. Hemp seed contains all the essential amino acids and essential fatty acids needed to maintain healthy human life, which makes it a perfect substitute for meat or as a protein supplement for anyone in their diet. No other single source provides such a complete protein in a form that is so easily digested and absorbed by the body. No other plant contains the essential oils necessary for perfect health in a ratio exactly suited to the bodies needs.

There is no other plant like hemp; there is nothing that competes against hemp. The hemp plant and hemp seed are perfectly suited to do what nature intended them to do, provide us with a sustainable source of protein food, fibre for clothing and paper, hurd for plastics and oils for nutrition and paints. If we were to wake up and realize that we could end our dependence on petrochemicals and still have the same lifestyles with the same vehicles and conveniences yet be cleaning the planet and providing a sustainable future for our children just by growing one plant, Cannibis Sativa, why would we not? Well, the answer to that is part of the biggest industrial conspiracy in modern history. Hemp is too perfect, hemp seeds are too much of a viable alternative to the petrochemical age we live in. So much so that the only way the people in power for the last 80 years could control it was to first demonize the plant, then when people had forgotten how amazing it was and how many things used to be made from it, then they made it illegal.

http://www.hempseed.ca/

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HOW DOES MARIJUANA AFFECT THE BRAIN?

Pot, weed, grass, ganja and skunk, are some of the common words used to describe the dried leaves drug known as marijuana. Marijuana is a cannabis plant that is "usually smoked or eaten to entice euphoria." (1). Throughout the years, there has been research on the negative and positive effects of marijuana on the human body and the brain. Marijuana is frequently beneficial to the treatment of AIDS, cancer, glaucoma, multiple sclerosis, and chronic pain. However, researchers such as Jacques-Joseph Moreau have been working to explain how marijuana has harmful affects on the functions of central nervous system and hinders the memory and movement of the user's brain. The focus of my web paper is how the chemicals in marijuana, specifically cannabinoids and THC have an effect on the memory and emotions of a person's central nervous system.

Marijuana impinges on the central nervous system by attaching to brain's neurons and interfering with normal communication between the neurons. These nerves respond by altering their initial behavior. For example, if a nerve is suppose to assist one in retrieving short-term memory, cannabinoids receptors make them do the opposite. So if one has to remember what he did five minutes ago, after smoking a high dose of marijuana, he has trouble. Marijuana plant contains 400 chemicals and 60 of them are cannabinoids, which are psychoactive compounds that are produced inside the body after cannabis is metabolized or is extorted from the cannabis plant. Cannabinoids is an active ingredient of marijuana. The most psychoactive cannabinoids chemical in marijuana that has the biggest impact on the brain is tetrahydrocannibol, or THC. THC is the main active ingredient in marijuana because it affects the brain by binding to and activating specific receptors, known as cannabinoid receptors. "These receptors control memory, thought, concentration, time and depth, and coordinated movement. THC also affects the production, release or re-uptake (a regulating mechanism) of various neurotransmitters."(2) Neurotransmitters are chemical messenger molecules that carry signals between neurons. Some of these affects are personality disturbances, depression and chronic anxiety. Psychiatrists who treat schizophrenic patient advice them to not use this drug because marijuana can trigger severe mental disturbances and cause a relapse.

When one's memory is affected by high dose of marijuana, short-term memory is the first to be triggered. Marijuana's damage to short-term memory occurs because THC alters the way in which information is processed by the hippocampus, a brain area responsible for memory formation. "One region of the brain that contains a lot of THC receptors is the hippocampus, which processes memory."(3) Hippocampus is the part of the brain that is important for memory, learning, and the integration of sensory experiences with emotions and motivation. It also converts information into short-term memory. "Because it is a steroid, THC acts on the hippocampus and inhibits memory retrieval."(4) THC also alters the way in which sensory information is interpreted. "When THC attaches to receptors in the hippocampus, it weakness the short-term memory,"(5) and damages the nerve cells by creating structural changes to the hippocampus region of the brain. When a user has a high dose of marijuana, new information does not register into their brain and this may be lost from memory and they are not able to retrieve new information for more than a few minutes. There is also a decrease in the activity of nerve cells.

There are two types of memory behavior that is affected by marijuana, recognition memory and free cells. Recognition memory is the ability to recognize correct words. Users can usually recognize words that they previous saw before smoking but claim to recognize words that they did not previously see before smoking. This mistake is known as memory intrusions. Memory intrusions are also the consequence of THC affecting the free cell of the brain. "Marijuana disrupts the ability to freely recall words from a list that has been presented to an intoxicated subject."(6) For example, if a list of vocabulary words presented to the intoxicated subject and few minutes later, they have to recall the words that were on the list. The only words that they remember are the last group of words and not the words that are in the beginning of the list. This is an initiation that their memory storage has been affected. "The absence of an effect at short term delay times indicates that cannabinodis did not impair the ability to perform the basic task, but instead produce a selective learning and/or memory deficit."(7) I did a study with two college students (Student A and Student B) who both smoke marijuana every other week. This particular study was done an hour before, while and after they were under the influence of the drug. Student A was watching television before she smoked marijuana, was asked which advertisement was splayed before the show started and she got four out of five of her answers correct. After this first section, she smoked a small dose of marijuana twice within an hour. Fifteen minutes after she smoked her last blunt, she continued her regular activity of watching sitcoms. When a commercial would come on, I would ask her simple questions like what happened before the show went to a commercial break. Her responses would be macro-answers about what was going on but when I asked her what the main character was wearing, she did not remember. This was ironic because the protagonist wore a bright yellow suit that my friend commenting on earlier when the show began ten minutes ago. Her short-term memory is weakening because she was only able to remember big picture information and not small picture. Though the results are interesting, I know that I would have had different response on someone else because it depends on how often the user smokes and if they have good memory prior to smoking weed.

Marijuana also impairs emotions. When smoking marijuana, the user may have uncontrollable laughter one minute and paranoia the next. This instant change in emotions has to do with the way that THC affects the brain's limbic system. The limbic system is another region of the brain that governs one's behavior and emotions. It also "coordinates activities between the visceral base-brain and the rest of the nervous system."(8) I am now going to use Students B to describe how emotions are affected by marijuana. Students B is an articulate and well spoken young woman who has a troublesome relationship with her best friends which gets her upset and tense up. But after she smoked one high dose weed, her body was relaxed however, she had trouble formulating her thoughts clearly and would talk in pieces and was jubilant. It has been researched that a person needs to have high dose of marijuana would be in the state of euphoria. High dose of marijuana is measured as "15mg of THC can cause increased heart rate, gross motor disturbances, and can lead to panic attacks."(9) Thankfully, Student A did not experience any of these extreme examples.

[Serpo]

http://img2.prosperent.com/images/250x250/feeds2.yourstorewizards.com/1458/images/200x200/stcimoboga.jpg

Keeping the goyim preoccupied while they rob them blind.

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5134/purecoincidencegy3.jpg

:oo-->


Not sure they have to be stoned for them to rob you blind............. ;D

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Sorry, Noc, I didn't mean to sound so angry & hostile. I'm not angry, I just get overly expressive or sumthin'. LOL, Luv ya,

It's okay if we just disagree, I'm too tired to type.

Just a couple of things, tho.....

**Spikenard from the Bible is not cannabis. ......

** Rick Simpson's Hemp oil is NOT 100% pure essential oil, it is not herbal medicine .
The hemp oil that he is making & curing thousands of people with is a MEDICINE--- NOT AN HERBAL ALTERNATIVE TO MEDICINE.
When you take a plant & isolate one part of it, you have taken it away from it's wholesome state & have turned it into a drug/medicine.
(just like star anise used for tamiflu, willow bark used for aspirin, foxglove herb/flower used for drug digitalis etc.
I have no doubt, I cannot deny that his hemp oil has cured peoples tumors. However their tumors are only a symptom of a cancer.
The carcinogenic thc had to go somewhere. Hope it's not hiding dormant somewhere & going to come out as liver cancer or something later on.

* There's lots of homemade salves that get rid of skin cancers, how do we know if it's not the chlorophyll working & not the cannabis ? Same for the oil ?

You're right, there are other ointments which also get rid of skin cancer, I think Black Blood Root is the name of one?

And about the historicity of Easu ever using cannabis - there is none directly. He gives absolutely no indication of ever consciously seeking it out or mentioning it. This whole OP article was about some hebrew ceremony which may have used the oil, and the article questions whether Easu ever took part in that ceremony. I can't even speak to that! Basically this ceremony just existed at the same time as him. That's not really proof.


---

But Cannabis is a plant valued by hundreds of cultures and religions throughout the historical record.


I can speak to my opinions regarding its use as a medicine. I believe that any anti-antimutagenic plant can be a valuable tool in prolonging life. Cannabis is also anti-bacterial and anti-inflammatory - which is why it makes a powerful anti-arthritis rub. There is no real headchange with a topical application of this type. You stay sober and receive the benefits.

I agree with you that Rick Simpson is making a big change to the natural plant - but he is reducing it, not replicating it. He is not isolating one part of it, and then duplicating that isolated part. It's not a synthetic medicine. He grows 1600 acres of it on his farm in Canada, then processes the raw plant material. Then he provides this medication free of charge to cancer patients. This is why he was shut down, not because his medicine is dangerous.

What he is doing, is taking the whole plant, applying a solvent, reducing the solution and boiling off the solvent, then bottling it. Essential Oils use steam as the solvent, and he is not using steam (although there are Collectives in my area who do use steam) so we can not say that Rick Simpson Oil is a true Essential Oil. However, the resulting oil does have 9-THC, CBD, and CBN and it is an effective medicine. I am okay with reductions and decoctions of plants.


I just want to correct one last thing: THC is not carcinogenic - It's the act of smoking which is. Combusted carbon, of course, is dangerous to inhale - even burning sage would be carcinogenic.. The people who choose to smoke pot cannot get around the fact that they are smoking - i.e. inhaling combusted carbon. That is their choice, and it's not perfect - although it is a lot less dangerous than tobacco.


That being said, if they eat or drink preparations of the raw plant, I have never seen any attributable long-term negative health effects, at all.

[Bullion_Bob]

Recommended viewing...

Grass, A Marijuana History

"Grass, narrated by actor/activist Woody Harrelson, takes a highly spirited and innovative look into one of America's most deeply rooted cultural myths: the evils of "pot", "cannabis", "weed", "dubich", "doobie", "shrub", or whatever man. From the story of America's first drug czar, to the absurd scare tactics behind propaganda films like Reefer Madness, and Marijuana: Threat or Menace, director Ron Mann (Comic Book Confidential, Twist) poignantly and humorously exposes the social, political and economic facts behind this enduring weed, and the extent to which it has profoundly shaped our culture"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sknoKWsVlAA&feature=related

Highly medicinal, and nutritionally perfect with an infinite number of uses. The creator obviously had big ambitions with this plant, as it trumps all others.

[Horn]

You should smoke sometime, book.

If you get good enough at it you won't even need the Maryjane anymore.

All's you need to do is hold your fingers properly and take a big hit of air.

http://gregantonmusic.com/img/gear_obama_smoking_joint.jpg

[dys]

What do you seek in reefer?Do you enjoy the spaced-out feeling when you stare at things completely absorbed in your own thoughts and don`t react when someone is calling you?
If you smoke a bit less, it is more enjoyable and social. Sometimes I feel a bit awkward and stiff in social settings, having a small amount of weed does help. Further I find that it intensifies and prolongs having sex, makes it somewhat more spiritual than physical. That is the best way to describe it I think. It sorts of desensitize the penis somewhat, making me more focused on other things in lovemaking. Does anyone else experience these effects?


Back in my wild and crazy days I used to do a lot of drugs and hang around in the drug scene. Out of all the people I ever met, I never met anyone that hated, no DETESTED, weed as much as I did. The first thing is that is makes me very nauseas (which is weird because it's supposed to be a good treatment for nausea). Second, I found that it completely messed with my ability to form rational thought, especially analytical rational thought (I guess that's what they mean by 'getting stupid'). Lastly I found the drug could be very trippy, and not in a good way. I hated listening to music when I was on it, the music always sounded slowed down and evil. When I would tell people how much I hated it, they would always say I wasn't trying the right kind or I wasn't smoking it the right way, no one believed me that I hated it. I got roped into trying it a couple of more times than I should have and I never had a positive experience on it. Something about that substance just doesn't agree with me.

dys

[Book]

All's you need to do is hold your fingers properly and take a big hit of air.



http://hetu.in/img/fun/fH2903-bush-drunk.jpg

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Bang Bang, Book

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7418/normal1vf.jpg

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

OVERDOSE DEATHS FROM CANNABIS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF RECORDED HISTORY:

ZERO
Seriously, nobody.































But that's not proof that Easu used it

[Book]

Appears half the GSUS membership are stoned.

:D

[Horn]

Gaze deeply, Book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM8jelIXsNk

Can't ya feel it man? Feel the penguins calling you? 8)

[Book]

Can't ya feel it man? Feel the penguins calling you?



http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/the-data-trust-blog/body-laptop-interface-lorax.jpg

Almost every one of your posts is an MTV video. Makes sense now...

:D

[Horn]

Almost every one of your posts is an MTV video. Makes sense now...

:D


I sense something of a melted castle in your pictured book past? :'(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULsiXVkKINA

[ximmy]

What about Adam & Eve...

[Horn]

What about Adam & Eve...


Dunno, They must have been hippies though.

As there was noway they could have removed unwanted body hair.

[Neuro]

Lemme tell you about the metallic THC cloud at the end of the Universe as we know it!

[Tumbleweed]

Appears half the GSUS membership are stoned.

:D


Not me. I may get a little drunk sometimes but never stoned. I wouldn't touch the stuff and I don't think anyone else should either. The dope smokers I've been around always thought it made them smarter and more talented but my opinion was the exact opposite of what they thought ;D

[Serpo]

What about Adam & Eve...


What about them.............

[Tumbleweed]

Jesus performed no healing miracles, he simply used aspirin.

Evidence shows Jesus used aspirin to cure. Jesus learned to make an aspirin derivative by following the instructions of Hippocrates who left historical records of pain relief treatments, including the use of powder made from the bark and leaves of the willow tree to help heal headaches, pains and fevers & other maladies. Jesus would leave his disciples and spend time late at night concocting willow plant potions for the coming day's display of supposed divine intervention. We are now certain Jesus used aspirin to perform healing and restoration on persons. The Miraculous myths believed by naive disciples can now be proven to be false.

Some of the ailments healed by aspirin:

Healing Simon Peter's Mother-in-law
Cleansing a Leper
Healing a Centurion's Servant
Healing a Paralytic
Restoring a Man's Withered Hand
Healing a Woman's Hemorrhage
Restoring Sight to Two Blind Men
Healing a Syro-Phoenician Girl
Healing a Deaf Mute
Giving Sight to a Blind Man at Bethsaida
Restoring a Woman Crippled for Eighteen Years
Healing a Man with Dropsy
Cleansing Ten Men of Leprosy
Giving Sight to a Blind Man (or 2 Men) at Jericho
Healing a Royal Official's Son at Cana
Healing a Man at the Pool of Bethesda in Jerusalem
Giving Sight to a Man Blind since Birth
Healing a Slave's Severed Ear

::) ximmy


You've got it Zimmy ;) There's nothing the Jews enjoy more than making up a lie about Jesus to lead the goyim astray.

[Book]

I sense something...



http://weeddaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/4701d1216632945-stoner-survey-.jpg

Bong Hits for GSUS.

[StackerKen]

Highly medicinal, and nutritionally perfect with an infinite number of uses. The creator obviously had big ambitions with this plant, as it trumps all others.


Quoted for Truth!

It is an amazing Plant

[StackerKen]

sorry you closed minded to your Bible


??? :-\

Where Did that come from? I wasn't even talking about the Bible...I was talking about Cannabis...

And for your info...I am Not closed minded to my bible...I believe every word in my Bible. and do My best to follow the teachings of Christ :)

Here is one


Not that which goes into the mouth defiles a man; but that which comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.

[StackerKen]

sorry you closed minded to your Bible


??? :-\

Where Did that come from? I wasn't even talking about the Bible...I was talking about Cannabis...

And for your info...I am Not closed minded to my bible...I believe every word in my Bible. and do My best to follow the teachings of Christ :)

Here is one


Not that which goes into the mouth defiles a man; but that which comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.





Oh, I thought you said I was closed-minded to the amazing cannabis plant or something like that.


I did say that :)

[Horn]

This is starting to remind me of the battle of the heretic.

While praying aloud with you words is more competent, you are told to remain silent with them.

The same assumption follows suit with your fellow internet poster.

http://www.thomasumstattd.com/2010/02/the-benefits-of-praying-aloud-power-part-2/

[keehah]

Like Antonio and others have said, its a diversion from doing dead-lifts.

Meanwhile the system shuts down attempts to find the important answers. ;D

Who could dead-lift more Jesus or Captain America? - Yahoo! Answers (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100326121430AAhOML8)

This question has been deleted

Questions on Yahoo! Answers are sometimes deleted according to our Community Guidelines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassins (users of hashish)

[Bullion_Bob]

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;D

[Tumbleweed]

I'm amazed at how many people here on this forum smoke dope especialy since this is a "survivalist" forum. In a SHTF situation people smokin dope would be a liability not an asset. Their will be none of that kind around me if the shit hits the fan. In my younger years I was around people using pot and they were worthless while they were high. I tried it but it was no damn good.

[freespirit]

I'm amazed at how many people here on this forum smoke dope especialy since this is a "survivalist" forum. In a SHTF situation people smokin dope would be a liability not an asset. Their will be none of that kind around me if the shit hits the fan. In my younger years I was around people using pot and they were worthless while they were high. I tried it but it was no damn good.


...i actually clicked thankyou by accident....

but what about those who have a few beers after work, or a couple of glasses of wine? lots here that partake in that particular drug as well.....i guess you don't want them around either when TSHTF?

no real difference...smokin a joint or havin' 2 or 3 beer. i know lots of people that smoke pot, but don't drink....

the idea is to know your limits, know yourself. some people have addictive personalities and can become addicted to anything, coffee, booze, people, pot, w/e...i smoke because i enjoy it, and i don't always feel like havin a beer. if one is responsible w/pot, the same as booze, what's the difference?

[keehah]

if one is responsible w/pot, the same as booze, what's the difference?

Responsable?


...i actually clicked thankyou by accident....

[Tumbleweed]

There is a difference Freespirit and I know from experiance. You can drink a couple of beers and sweat it out pretty fast. I've been around people who smoke dope and people who drink and my statement stands.

In a SHTF situation there would be no time when being high would be acceptable. A person high on pot could endanger everyone around them.

[Horn]

There is a difference Freespirit and I know from experiance. You can drink a couple of beers and sweat it out pretty fast. I've been around people who smoke dope and people who drink and my statement stands.

In a SHTF situation there would be no time when being high would be acceptable. A person high on pot could endanger everyone around them.


I smoked in my late teens early 20's, but not really since. I'll be 42 in May.

I can tell you they would be no more dangerous than a drunk.

And yeah, neither would be very welcomed in a dire situation.

[freespirit]

There is a difference Freespirit and I know from experiance. You can drink a couple of beers and sweat it out pretty fast. I've been around people who smoke dope and people who drink and my statement stands.

In a SHTF situation there would be no time when being high would be acceptable. A person high on pot could endanger everyone around them.


agreed. this applies to being drunk as well.

i have been around those you speak of also, and i find the "high" person more predictable whereas the "drunk" person can be sent into a rage in the blink of an eye.

the real difference lies with the individual, not the drug.

remember the "high school parties"? the pot heads would be chillin in the kitchen, havin fun, and the drunk jocks would be pickin fights in the living room w/their best friends...lol

[Bullion_Bob]

In my younger years I was around people using pot and they were worthless while they were high. I tried it but it was no damn good.


Plant genetics have come a long way. You can find Sativa strains that give a clear headed social uplifting high with increased energy, and perception. The high feels very similar to the euphoria you get from alcohol, some may argue in ways better. Do not be surprised if you find yourself cleaning out the garage sometime. Enhanced creativity and awareness. It's the complete opposite of being glued to the couch.

[Serpo]

I'm amazed at how many people here on this forum smoke dope especialy since this is a "survivalist" forum. In a SHTF situation people smokin dope would be a liability not an asset. Their will be none of that kind around me if the shit hits the fan. In my younger years I was around people using pot and they were worthless while they were high. I tried it but it was no damn good.



Oh, Tumbleweed it's not dope, silly, it's an a-m-a-z-i-n-g sacred plant from the Bible.
Why can't you understand that ? :dunno Get with it. :sarc:
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa


We all understand your position on this topic OHL and I dont think we are going to get much further with this topic

[Antonio]

There is a difference Freespirit and I know from experiance. You can drink a couple of beers and sweat it out pretty fast. I've been around people who smoke dope and people who drink and my statement stands.

In a SHTF situation there would be no time when being high would be acceptable. A person high on pot could endanger everyone around them.


I do understand that you have the best intentions. But believe me, WTSHTF you`ll be asking Antonio for whatever drugs he may have on him that day (and I use ethanol only to wipe my skin prior to injections so no beer will be provided). SHTF will do that to you, otherwise it`s not SHTF.
During SHTF people do things completely foreign to their nature. Last Dec I felt that SHTF was around the corner and finally got clean.
WTSHTF sober people may pick up a cig or the needle and wonder how the hell this happened to them. 30-50% of American boys in Vietnam became heroin addicts there, often on the day of the arrival, same story with Soviet Afghan vets, almost everyone smoked hash and many got hooked on dope too.
SHTF means you`ll have to shoot at people and work without sleep and often food for days and weeks, also you`ll see shit that will prevent you from ever falling asleep again without drugs.
PS. People here may think I`m a degenerate drug addict tortured by uncontrollable cravings. Nothing can be further from the truth. It is simply that in my civilian life I`ve already seen shit that makes falling asleep very problematic. If I could sleep well naturally, I`d probably not be able to tell grass from heroin if you showed them to me.

[osoab]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdlIPAB1blA&feature=player_embedded

[Book]

Oh, Tumbleweed it's not dope, silly, it's an a-m-a-z-i-n-g sacred plant from the Bible.
Why can't you understand that ? :dunno Get with it. :sarc:
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa



Far out! Dat u Jesus?

:D

[Tumbleweed]

I'm amazed at how many people here on this forum smoke dope especialy since this is a "survivalist" forum. In a SHTF situation people smokin dope would be a liability not an asset. Their will be none of that kind around me if the shit hits the fan. In my younger years I was around people using pot and they were worthless while they were high. I tried it but it was no damn good.



Oh, Tumbleweed it's not dope, silly, it's an a-m-a-z-i-n-g sacred plant from the Bible.
Why can't you understand that ? :dunno Get with it. :sarc:
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa



Ha!Ha! Old Herb Lady ;D I'm crowdin sixty so I think it's to late for me to get with it ;D

[Book]

A person high on pot could endanger everyone around them.



http://stoppopculture.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/smoking-a-gun.jpg

At least we know who they are now at GSUS.

:D

[Tumbleweed]

There is a difference Freespirit and I know from experiance. You can drink a couple of beers and sweat it out pretty fast. I've been around people who smoke dope and people who drink and my statement stands.

In a SHTF situation there would be no time when being high would be acceptable. A person high on pot could endanger everyone around them.

remember the "high school parties"? the pot heads would be chillin in the kitchen, havin fun, and the drunk jocks would be pickin fights in the living room w/their best friends...lol

Free Spirit if trouble were to come knockin at the door I'd rather be in a living room with a bunch of drunks lookin for a fight than in a kitchen with a bunch of dope smokin, giggalin sissys ;D

[Bullion_Bob]

http://files.sharenator.com/tumblr_ktqswthLPc1qatk68o1_400_Your_Argument_is_In valid-s400x400-66335-580.jpg

[Antonio]

There is a difference Freespirit and I know from experiance. You can drink a couple of beers and sweat it out pretty fast. I've been around people who smoke dope and people who drink and my statement stands.

In a SHTF situation there would be no time when being high would be acceptable. A person high on pot could endanger everyone around them.

remember the "high school parties"? the pot heads would be chillin in the kitchen, havin fun, and the drunk jocks would be pickin fights in the living room w/their best friends...lol

Free Spirit if trouble were to come knockin at the door I'd rather be in a living room with a bunch of drunks lookin for a fight than in a kitchen with a bunch of dope smokin, giggalin sissys ;D


I`ve met plenty of Vietnam vets, the last people I`ll ever call sissys, especially in their faces...
PS. Ag hit 38, the doc Antonio prescribes everyone who has the desire to light up a fatty. My guess the GSUS attending physician Mamboni would approve...

[Book]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0CN9lVblko

But...but...but it helps us concentrate!

:D

[Antonio]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JawMQRSCRkU

[Tumbleweed]

I don't think so Antonio when it comes to drugs other than a good slug of whiskey or some beer. I had friends who came home from Vietnam all screwed up and a couple of them drank themselves to death. No drugs for me. I'd rather die stone cold sober and take as many of my real enemys with me as I can when the time comes.

In the movie Grand Torino Clint Eastwood is talking to the priest about what he did in the Korean war. The priest tried to consol him and told him it was his duty to fight and kill the enemy soldiers that were trying to kill him. Clint said it wasn't the ones he that he had to kill it was the ones he didn't that bothered him.

Christians believe in a Tri-une God. Three in one, father, son and holy spirit. God is just and merciful. those two things contradict each other though. If God is just when we sin we must suffer the punishment for it. God is merciful and we can be forgiven for our sins if we see the errorr of our ways and repent. God took the form of Jesus and walked the earth with no sin and allowed himself to be beaten to death. When we face God for the the sins we have committed, if we have seen the error of our ways God can forgive us because he has already taken the beating we deserve through Jesus Christ. All those who accept Jesus as our savior can be forgiven, even the soldiers who may have done wrong if they saw the error of their way and repented.

Do your best to keep the ten camandments and pray sincerely for mercy through Jesus Christ when you fail.





There is a difference Freespirit and I know from experiance. You can drink a couple of beers and sweat it out pretty fast. I've been around people who smoke dope and people who drink and my statement stands.

In a SHTF situation there would be no time when being high would be acceptable. A person high on pot could endanger everyone around them.


I do understand that you have the best intentions. But believe me, WTSHTF you`ll be asking Antonio for whatever drugs he may have on him that day (and I use ethanol only to wipe my skin prior to injections so no beer will be provided). SHTF will do that to you, otherwise it`s not SHTF.
During SHTF people do things completely foreign to their nature. Last Dec I felt that SHTF was around the corner and finally got clean.
WTSHTF sober people may pick up a cig or the needle and wonder how the hell this happened to them. 30-50% of American boys in Vietnam became heroin addicts there, often on the day of the arrival, same story with Soviet Afghan vets, almost everyone smoked hash and many got hooked on dope too.
SHTF means you`ll have to shoot at people and work without sleep and often food for days and weeks, also you`ll see shit that will prevent you from ever falling asleep again without drugs.
PS. People here may think I`m a degenerate drug addict tortured by uncontrollable cravings. Nothing can be further from the truth. It is simply that in my civilian life I`ve already seen shit that makes falling asleep very problematic. If I could sleep well naturally, I`d probably not be able to tell grass from heroin if you showed them to me.

[freespirit]

There is a difference Freespirit and I know from experiance. You can drink a couple of beers and sweat it out pretty fast. I've been around people who smoke dope and people who drink and my statement stands.

In a SHTF situation there would be no time when being high would be acceptable. A person high on pot could endanger everyone around them.

remember the "high school parties"? the pot heads would be chillin in the kitchen, havin fun, and the drunk jocks would be pickin fights in the living room w/their best friends...lol


Free Spirit if trouble were to come knockin at the door I'd rather be in a living room with a bunch of drunks lookin for a fight than in a kitchen with a bunch of dope smokin, giggalin sissys ;D



i can assure you, trouble shows up at my place, it may notice a wonderful aroma in the air, but the last thing it'll find will be any sissies...lol

[Antonio]

I don't think so Antonio when it comes to drugs other than a good slug of whiskey or some beer. I had friends who came home from Vietnam all screwed up and a couple of them drank themselves to death. No drugs for me. I'd rather die stone cold sober and take as many of my real enemys with me as I can when the time comes.



I`ve posted on GIM,Agora and here full of dope and valium, enough in me to endanger if not kill an average person. Have you ever noticed bad spelling or grammar problems in my dopey rants? English is my second language. On the other hand we see occasional drunken members who post verbal diarrea in their native tongue. SS soldiers marched into battle full of oxycontin,coke and speed. The sad reality is drugs enhance performance. Guess whose hands are gonna be steadier while shooting after 5 days with zero sleep, those of a junkie or those of a drunk or even a completely sober guy?
There are no sober guys in the trenches, if they are there sober they are useless because nobody except a true sociopath could show marksmanship worth shit while sober and after scraping his buddies`s guts and brains off his face for a few days.

[Tumbleweed]

There is a difference Freespirit and I know from experiance. You can drink a couple of beers and sweat it out pretty fast. I've been around people who smoke dope and people who drink and my statement stands.

In a SHTF situation there would be no time when being high would be acceptable. A person high on pot could endanger everyone around them.

remember the "high school parties"? the pot heads would be chillin in the kitchen, havin fun, and the drunk jocks would be pickin fights in the living room w/their best friends...lol

Free Spirit if trouble were to come knockin at the door I'd rather be in a living room with a bunch of drunks lookin for a fight than in a kitchen with a bunch of dope smokin, giggalin sissys ;D


I`ve met plenty of Vietnam vets, the last people I`ll ever call sissys, especially in their faces...
PS. Ag hit 38, the doc Antonio prescribes everyone who has the desire to light up a fatty. My gu

I wasn't calling Vietnam vets sissys. I do know a vietnam vet who wouldn't sleep in camp at night because he was afraid one of those smoked up soldiers might be out sleeping on guard duty. He would rather be out on guard himself.

Another one lost it and had to be sent home early becaue he couldn't tell anymore whether he was going to be shot in the front by the enemy or shot in the back by a fellow soldier.

Vietnam Vet or not I wouldn't trust anyone smoked up on dope in a fight.

[Sparky]

Jesus performed no healing miracles, he simply used aspirin.

Evidence shows Jesus used aspirin to cure. Jesus learned to make an aspirin derivative by following the instructions of Hippocrates who left historical records of pain relief treatments, including the use of powder made from the bark and leaves of the willow tree to help heal headaches, pains and fevers & other maladies. Jesus would leave his disciples and spend time late at night concocting willow plant potions for the coming day's display of supposed divine intervention. We are now certain Jesus used aspirin to perform healing and restoration on persons. The Miraculous myths believed by naive disciples can now be proven to be false.

Some of the ailments healed by aspirin:

Healing Simon Peter's Mother-in-law
Cleansing a Leper
Healing a Centurion's Servant
Healing a Paralytic
Restoring a Man's Withered Hand
Healing a Woman's Hemorrhage
Restoring Sight to Two Blind Men
Healing a Syro-Phoenician Girl
Healing a Deaf Mute
Giving Sight to a Blind Man at Bethsaida
Restoring a Woman Crippled for Eighteen Years
Healing a Man with Dropsy
Cleansing Ten Men of Leprosy
Giving Sight to a Blind Man (or 2 Men) at Jericho
Healing a Royal Official's Son at Cana
Healing a Man at the Pool of Bethesda in Jerusalem
Giving Sight to a Man Blind since Birth
Healing a Slave's Severed Ear

::) ximmy


You omitted bringing Lazarus back from the dead. Double dose.

[StackerKen]

I don't know if Jesus used cannabis to heal.......

But I do know..... He Created it..... and cannabis is healing and helping folks today...

And I'm pretty sure we can all agree on one thing.....

Folks should have the God given right to consume what they want when they want...

as long as they are not endangering anyone or other wise impeading on other peoples rights... of course

Edit to add;.....
fuck the US government for taking away that God Given right
(can I say that?)

and thanks to the people of Ca. and 15 other states for giving that right back to the people

[StackerKen]

Can I get a Heck Yeah!??!!

[freespirit]

I don't know if Jesus used cannabis to heal.......

But I do know..... He Created it..... and cannabis is healing and helping folks today...

And I'm pretty sure we can all agree that folks should have the God given right to consume what they want when they want...

as long as they are not endangering anyone or other wise impeading on other peoples rights... of course

Edit to add;.....
fuck the US government for taking away that right
(can I say that?)

and thanks to the people of Ca. and 15 other states for giving that right back to the people



could not have said it better myself, Ken.


ETA--- HECK YEAH!!!!
;D

[Plastic]

Genesis 1:29

And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Not some, not even most, but EVERY.

*tokes*

[wrs]

Maybe TRUE CHristians understand what the BIble teaches them & doesn't twist & turn & manipulate


Can you explain exactly what a "true Christian" is? Have you ever heard of the No True Scotsman fallacy?


Also, it's description in helping to heal cancer is not healing it, it supresses the symptoms just like the prescription drugs do.

You apparently don't know what you read then. Do you know what apoptosis is? Lady, you are just someone with an opinion that believes it to be knowledge. Lot's of those people running around thumping bibles and science books and all sorts of other things of the same genre with the same idea.

[keehah]

Now I get it! ;D
And Judas was pissed because it threatened his drug trafficking profits.

Everything's Alright - Jesus Christ Superstar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTQp7MER_vo

[wrs]

I would suggest you work in the holistic /alternative health field or alongside people who have healed their bodies naturally before you criticize my knowledge to be opinion or fact.

That is how I keep myself healthy now. Granted I did the chemo/radiation/surgery to get rid of the cancer and it worked but I still had to keep it from returning. That I have done the natural way. I take flaxseed oil, Coriolis VPS and I do Yoga. I have also quit eating meat so I am definitely doing things differently than before the cancer. However, I smoked pot for two years and it helped get my guts to calm down enough that I could sleep through the night. Getting back to normal after colon cancer is hard work and I think pot definitely helped me. I quit smoking about a year and a half ago but if I need to again, I will use it. I see nothing wrong with it and a lot of good in it. It isn't for everyone though because it does contribute to psychosis in some people, my youngest son is one of those people.

[gunDriller]

I am very sorry that you have been through so much, but since you have been through the non-organic means of chemotherapy, radiation and surgery for treating your cancer tumor,
then let me explain to you that apoptosis from chemical-induced drugs (including the hemp oil )
and apoptosis from organically applied herbs are completely different .
That's herbology 101 .
I would suggest you work in the holistic /alternative health field or alongside people who have healed their bodies naturally before you criticize my knowledge to be opinion or fact.


this i don't understand.

even the most organic soil is full of chemicals - it's just that they're organic in origin.

hemp oil is just one form of cannabis. as far as i know, people make hash oil using solvents such as acetone, so i can see why that would be excluded from a list of organic medications.

but cannabis itself has a usage history going back 1000's of years, as do many other herbs.


however, because of the laws, it has been difficult to do thorough research on the subject, since 1937 when Harry "Reefer Madness" Anslinger did his thing.

the study that was done at a University in Virginia & published in 1975, "Antineoplastic activity of cannabinoids" -

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/references/journal/1975_munson_nci_1/1975_munson_nci_1_text.shtml

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCMQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov%2Fpubmed%2F1 159836&rct=j&q=Antineoplastic%20cannabis&ei=wIitTeOIN434sAPmt7GSAw&usg=AFQjCNGI4Ud352v7jenI59p8Z4zgIB2bvw&cad=rja

- found that cannabis cured cancer in mice. i.e. among the mice that received carcinogens, the group that also received cannabis (i believe cannabis injections) had a substantially higher survival rate than those that only got the carcinogens.

the study was repeated in Spain more recently, and verified - cannabis does cure some forms of cancer. that study is known as the "Madrid study".

of course, it raises lots of questions -

* how about the effect on people ? one would expect that certain communities that have high rates of cannabis use would have decreased cancer rates. however, what i observe about some communities in Mendocino & British Columbia, for example, is that they not only smoke more cannabis, they also smoke more cigs, etc.
* for the antineoplastic (cancer-curing) effect that was observed in mice to be exhibited in humans, what would the quality of life be like ?


what is interesting is the response of the medical community. the article was expunged from American medical school literature in 1975. it came up for review 8 years later and was expunged again, by George Bush 41, when he was Vice President, in 1983 (note Bush41's connection to Eli Lilly - look who he picked as VP, Dan Quayle).

the article was dug up by, among other people, a Canadian-American man named Marc Boyer. he ran an acrylic shop in Florida, and got cancer - i don't know if it was from the chemicals in his shop. it was the kind of shop that makes retail store displays out of acrylic plastic.

when he got cancer, he started using cannabis. he beat the cancer. he also moved to Vancouver, Canada.

i met him in 2004. at that time, he was quite high-energy, and very lucid (clear-headed). he ran a food business named "remarcable.ca", which made cinnamon sugar cookies that contained a cannabis extract. i tried one myself, and made the wise choice to only have about 1/3 of it. it didn't have any residual marijuana taste - it tasted like some chef had set out to make the world's best -tasting snickerdoodles (that's what my mom used to call cinnamon sugar cookies.) what impressed me about them was that, at the time, i was under a lot of stress, and smoking cigs. my appetite for cigs disappeared for about 12 hours, along with the anxiety that drove me to use the cigs.

Marc also dug into the Canadian med school literature and found the "Antineoplastic activity of cannabinoids" article - and re-published it. that got him in a lot of trouble - visits from the US embassy, for example.

those cookies were extremely popular in Vancouver, for a while. that domain has been taken over by a real estate company and i don't know what happened to Marc's cookie factory. the last Internet post i saw him make had a 2008 date.


Herb Lady, why do you dismiss Cannabis as a therapeutically active substance ?

the fact that it has an intoxicating effect on some people does not mean that it has no medical use. compared to the side effects of radiation and chemo-therapy - e.g. the Potassium Iodide that patients take when they undergo radiation therapy ... where the side effects of Potassium Iodide are extreme nausea & diarrhea - would leave one looking for a more healthful cancer cure.

which marijuana is, for some kinds of cancer.