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Bullion_Bob
2nd April 2011, 02:24 PM
Never knew about this...pretty crazy story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr94ELW701Q

JDRock
2nd April 2011, 03:28 PM
bump....essentially, it was a hit by janet reno on the mother,who was the intended target all along. In retaliation for a letter to reno . Thats why randy weaver was in plain sight for 40 minutes without a single shot fired, and as SOON as the wife comes to the screen door she is shot through the forehead by horiuchi,who not only was never sent to the gallows, but was PROMOTED.

Awoke
2nd April 2011, 03:30 PM
I am Downloading this and will watch it tonight.
Thank you.

Bullion_Bob
2nd April 2011, 03:53 PM
Every photo of LH on the net, is black and white, washed out, and out of focus.

midnight rambler
2nd April 2011, 04:13 PM
bump....essentially, it was a hit by janet reno on the mother,who was the intended target all along. In retaliation for a letter to reno . Thats why randy weaver was in plain sight for 40 minutes without a single shot fired, and as SOON as the wife comes to the screen door she is shot through the forehead by horiuchi,who not only was never sent to the gallows, but was PROMOTED.


Where in the world did you come up with that crazy story??? Ruby Ridge occurred in '92 while Bush 1 was still in office. Reno wasn't appointed AG until early '93.

hoarder
2nd April 2011, 06:24 PM
Thanks. I had never seen this before.

Awoke
2nd April 2011, 07:01 PM
Watching this now.

She's a hot little thing!

I can't stand how every single documentary has to have a frigging narrator with an annoying british accent. That drives me nuts.

Awoke
2nd April 2011, 07:46 PM
Powerful documentary. Thanks for posting.

Serpo
2nd April 2011, 08:31 PM
bump....essentially, it was a hit by janet reno on the mother,who was the intended target all along. In retaliation for a letter to reno . Thats why randy weaver was in plain sight for 40 minutes without a single shot fired, and as SOON as the wife comes to the screen door she is shot through the forehead by horiuchi,who not only was never sent to the gallows, but was PROMOTED.


Really the target was the wife for a letter.......powerful clip to say the least

po boy
3rd April 2011, 01:03 AM
I never would have hard of this 'cept for the terrorist watch list crap.

His boy was right IMHO shoot my dog for doing it's job, your going to find some lead.

Kill my wife God have mercy 'cause I will not.

Awoke
3rd April 2011, 01:07 AM
bump....essentially, it was a hit by janet reno on the mother,who was the intended target all along. In retaliation for a letter to reno . Thats why randy weaver was in plain sight for 40 minutes without a single shot fired, and as SOON as the wife comes to the screen door she is shot through the forehead by horiuchi,who not only was never sent to the gallows, but was PROMOTED.


Really the target was the wife for a letter.......powerful clip to say the least


Expand on this, please.

Serpo
3rd April 2011, 01:11 AM
bump....essentially, it was a hit by janet reno on the mother,who was the intended target all along. In retaliation for a letter to reno . Thats why randy weaver was in plain sight for 40 minutes without a single shot fired, and as SOON as the wife comes to the screen door she is shot through the forehead by horiuchi,who not only was never sent to the gallows, but was PROMOTED.


Really the target was the wife for a letter.......powerful clip to say the least


Expand on this, please.




I asked first

Serpo
3rd April 2011, 01:15 AM
I never would have hard of this 'cept for the terrorist watch list crap.

His boy was right IMHO shoot my dog for doing it's job, your going to find some lead.

Kill my wife God have mercy 'cause I will not.


Machined gunned the kid in the back they said and here is a picture of the sniper(hit man) that killed the wife holding baby

http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/randyweaver.htm

everyone should watch this

po boy
3rd April 2011, 01:30 AM
I never would have hard of this 'cept for the terrorist watch list crap.

His boy was right IMHO shoot my dog for doing it's job, your going to find some lead.

Kill my wife God have mercy 'cause I will not.


Machined gunned the kid in the back they said and here is a picture of the sniper(hit man) that killed the wife holding baby

http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/randyweaver.htm

everyone should watch this

I chock this just above selling your kid out for some FRN. Bring on the smites

midnight rambler
3rd April 2011, 06:01 AM
bump....essentially, it was a hit by janet reno on the mother,who was the intended target all along. In retaliation for a letter to reno . Thats why randy weaver was in plain sight for 40 minutes without a single shot fired, and as SOON as the wife comes to the screen door she is shot through the forehead by horiuchi,who not only was never sent to the gallows, but was PROMOTED.


Really the target was the wife for a letter.......powerful clip to say the least


WHERE THE fuck DOES THIS Bullshit COME FROM?!?!?!?

The lesbo Reno was NOT(!) AG when the Ruby Ridge incident occurred, she was not appointed AG until FIVE months afterwards!

I mean SHIT!!! GET A GRIP ON REALITY! Stick to the facts.

MAGNES
3rd April 2011, 06:33 AM
Back then there was some press and some justice, there were more serious congressional investigations.

Since then something like this, the corruption is far worse now, won't even see the day, they have done worse.




I mean shit!


someone made a mistake , big deal, there are people here doing worse on purpose
confusing cases from 20 years ago, I've done that

iOWNme
3rd April 2011, 06:34 AM
This is a fantastic Doc....One of the saddest stories from the Patriot/Militia groups of the 1990's.

I dont know how RW to this day hasnt flown off the deep end and went on a Fed extinguishing spree....


Lets not forget the Satanic ROE that were employed there:

"On August 22, the second day of the siege, the FBI HRT sniper/observer teams were deployed to the cabin to cover the approach of an armored personnel carrier carrying negotiators to make a surrender callout at the cabin. Before being deployed, the snipers had been given military style rules of engagement that contradicted standard FBI deadly force policy, what some snipers later described as a "green light" to "shoot on sight."

The Ruby Ridge Rules of Engagement (ROE) were drawn up on the basis of reports from USMS and FBI headquarters, bolstered by unconfirmed news media accounts accepted by HQ, that exaggerated the threat posed by the Weavers.

1. If any adult male is observed with a weapon prior to the announcement, deadly force can and should be employed, if the shot can be taken without endangering any children.
2. If any adult in the compound is observed with a weapon after the surrender announcement is made, and is not attempting to surrender, deadly force can and should be employed to neutralize the individual.
3. If compromised by any animal, particularly the dogs, that animal should be eliminated.
4. Any subjects other than Randall Weaver, Vicki Weaver, Kevin Harris, presenting threats of death or grievous bodily harm, the FBI rules of deadly force are in effect. Deadly force can be utilized to prevent the death or grievous bodily injury to oneself or that of another.

Standard deadly force policy of the FBI was: "Agents are not to use deadly force against any person except as necessary in self-defense or the defense of another, when they have reason to believe they or another are in danger of death or grievous bodily harm. Whenever feasible, verbal warning should be given before deadly force is applied." Under the Ruby Ridge ROE 3 and 4, the Weaver dogs, the Weaver children and third parties were subject to the standard deadly force policy and could only be shot in self-defense if they presented a danger of death or grievous bodily harm. However, under the Ruby Ridge ROE 1 and 2, deadly force against the Weaver adults should be used without the justification of defense and without any verbal warning."

The surviving members of the Weaver family filed a wrongful death suit. To avoid trial and a possibly higher settlement, the federal government awarded Randy Weaver a $100,000 settlement and his three daughters $1 million each in August 1995. In the out-of-court settlement the government did not admit to any wrong-doing in the deaths of Sammy and Vicki Weaver.

The attorney for Kevin Harris pressed Harris' civil suit for damages, although federal officials vowed they would never pay someone who had killed a U.S. Marshal. In September 2000 after persistent appeals, Harris was awarded a $380,000 settlement from the government.

Why did RW take that money? Anyone have any other info on this? I wouldnt have taken a zinc DIME from Lucifer.

LH was literally told to kill ANYTHING he saw that day, from a half mile away. COWARDS!

Welcome to America.....

RIP:
Vicky Weaver
Sammy Weaver

Spectrism
3rd April 2011, 07:58 AM
I am ashamed that Lon Horiuchi is a graduate of West Point. Such a bastard rates with the lowest of the nation's enemies.

I am also surprised that people like him are still sucking air. As the environment degrades, I would think that such people are on the short list for advanced promotion to the spirit realm.

keehah
3rd April 2011, 08:24 AM
I just realized the same FBI murderer did pretty much the same thing with bigger effect a year later with kids and family members fleeing a church his gang set on fire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lon_Horiuchi

13 September 1993, Charles Riley, a fellow FBI sniper deployed during the Waco Siege claimed that he had heard Horiuchi shooting from Sierra 1, an F.B.I.-held house in front of the compound holding eight snipers, including Horiuchi and Christopher Curran on 19 April 1993. Riley later retracted his statement, saying that he had been misquoted, and that he had only heard snipers at Sierra 1 announce that shots had been fired by Branch Davidians.

Three of the twelve expended .308 Winchester shell casings that the Texas Rangers reported finding in the house were at Horiuchi's position.

gunDriller
3rd April 2011, 11:55 AM
I am Downloading this and will watch it tonight.
Thank you.


what program do you use to download - or is it a feature of the browser or operating system you're using ?

Serpo
3rd April 2011, 01:43 PM
I am Downloading this and will watch it tonight.
Thank you.


what program do you use to download - or is it a feature of the browser or operating system you're using ?


Download helper....add on to firefox

http://www.downloadhelper.net/

Awoke
3rd April 2011, 07:15 PM
I am Downloading this and will watch it tonight.
Thank you.


what program do you use to download - or is it a feature of the browser or operating system you're using ?


Download helper....add on to firefox

http://www.downloadhelper.net/


I do use a FireFox add on, but I think it's call Net Video Surfer or something like that.

It saves any file as an FLV file, so you can DL an FLV player, or you can just manually change the extension of the file from FLV to MPG and it will play in any updated player.

JDRock
4th April 2011, 09:03 AM
bump....essentially, it was a hit by janet reno on the mother,who was the intended target all along. In retaliation for a letter to reno . Thats why randy weaver was in plain sight for 40 minutes without a single shot fired, and as SOON as the wife comes to the screen door she is shot through the forehead by horiuchi,who not only was never sent to the gallows, but was PROMOTED.


Really the target was the wife for a letter.......powerful clip to say the least


WHERE THE fuck DOES THIS Bullshit COME FROM?!?!?!?

The lesbo Reno was NOT(!) AG when the Ruby Ridge incident occurred, she was not appointed AG until FIVE months afterwards!

I mean shit!!! GET A GRIP ON REALITY! Stick to the facts.


hahaha i got my events turned around, that war the branch davidians, not ruby, and dude, REEELAX its called a mistake, how many times r-u gonna post on this hahaa

Awoke
4th April 2011, 02:04 PM
Correction Gundriller, it is called NetVideoHunter.

slvrbugjim
4th April 2011, 02:26 PM
Was that G Edward Griffin in the beginning

Awoke
4th April 2011, 02:44 PM
The way he was speaking about how this is the "Conspiratorial view of history, and not the accidental view of history" made me think that it was actually A. Ralph Epperson, but I don't know what Epperson looks like.

SHTF2010
4th April 2011, 03:37 PM
Ruby Ridge is one of the BIG 3

along with OKC bombing and Waco


things are not as they seem . . . .

sirgonzo420
4th April 2011, 03:59 PM
The way he was speaking about how this is the "Conspiratorial view of history, and not the accidental view of history" made me think that it was actually A. Ralph Epperson, but I don't know what Epperson looks like.



Ask percival.

Supposedly percival is a personal friend of Epperson.

JDRock
4th April 2011, 05:34 PM
i believe he wrote "the unseen hand"

hoarder
4th April 2011, 05:56 PM
Has anyone ever read Randy Weaver's book?

http://www.amazon.com/Federal-Siege-At-Ruby-Ridge/dp/0966433408/ref=pd_sim_b_2

mightymanx
4th April 2011, 06:17 PM
Randy and Sarah Weaver's biography of the event is most deffinatly worth the read it includes lots of the findings of the Congressional investigation.

This is also why I got rid of and refuse to buy anything from HS Percision they brought Lon Horacci (sp) on a s a battle tested spokesman. :puke I wrote tem a letter that I expected to hear from the cops after I sent it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2138289/posts

Awoke
4th April 2011, 10:05 PM
The way he was speaking about how this is the "Conspiratorial view of history, and not the accidental view of history" made me think that it was actually A. Ralph Epperson, but I don't know what Epperson looks like.



Ask percival.

Supposedly percival is a personal friend of Epperson.


Percival...
He always told me that he lived beside Epperson and that they would have tea together, but I never believed him.

He also always encouraged me to call Epperson and speak to him in person, using the number from Epperson's webpage. I tried calling a couple times and only ever got an answering machine. His insistance that I called that number and left a message was enough of a reason for me to choose to never call it again. It seemed fishy.

Percival is the agent who duped me from the start.
He duped me from the start because I unveiled my person identity to him back in the first month of my membership on GIM, before I had ever learned about the depths of the conspiracy, before I had ever considered that TPTB might actually place agents on forum boards like this one.

Where I was trying to learn about the intrinsic value of PMs and trying to wrap my head around numismatics, he stepped up and was very helpful, explaining things to me so I could understand them, all aspects of metals. He was always friendly with me until I started to learn about the babylonian cultists.
Then he was adversarial with me.

Anyways, before I learned about the true PTB, I eneded up foolishly unveiling my personal identity with him. So I suspect either he has forgotten, or he has it written down, or it is on their database. (Being that he works for the SPLC, I am sure it's on their database, but whatever. )

Awoke
4th April 2011, 10:13 PM
Well the guy in the video doesn't look like A. Ralph Epperson to me.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bgpfWn5Eswo/TXyS9zv0OcI/AAAAAAAAAMk/9FTD2dETh2A/s1600/ralpheppersonauthor.jpg

He must have read "The unseen hand" though, because that introduction is Epperson's wording pretty much verbatim.

solid
5th April 2011, 04:04 AM
Watching this now.

She's a hot little thing!


OK...I'm only 4 minutes into this video, at 3:35, she says her favorite gun is the 45-70. I think I just fell in love with this young lady!

solid
5th April 2011, 05:12 AM
You know, I almost couldn't even finish this documentary. I had to stop several times. Everything that happened to the Weaver family is just so wrong, it's infuriating. Makes me sad, then ANGRY. The family, like all of us, just wanted to be left alone. Cold blooded murder, my heart goes out to them for all they went through. They all have a special place in heaven, and the bastards that murdered their family will rot in hell.