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midnight rambler
3rd April 2011, 05:57 PM
How long before this guy gets tired of living (like so many who've gone before him in this endeavor)?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Permanent-Magnet-Generator-DC-/250794679453?pt=BI_Generators&hash=item3a64871c9d

Ponce
3rd April 2011, 06:14 PM
Thanks Rambler, I just sent him a email, I am willing to travel anywhere in the US to see it working in person and will buy it for cash if it does what they say.

Serpo
3rd April 2011, 06:19 PM
WOW very interesting product............


Permanent Magnet Generator






It's difficult for many people to envision being free from monthly energy bills. Most don't accept the idea that permanent magnet generators can actually perform as promised. It is truly possibly to produce enough energy using only magnets to completely power your house?

Experts in the fields of electricity and energy have devoted countless hours into creating a system which can live up to what people expect. Wind turbines and solar panels are familiar objects to many, but the permanent magnet generator isn't an item that is quite as well known.

Using solar panels to produce energy is typically the first choice for those who want to provide free energy to their house. Solar panels will not benefit you very much if you do not have adequate space on your roof, or enough space within the confines of your backyard.

Space is not a concern when you're using a permanent magnet generator. Because these generators are small in size, they won't take up much space. They can typically be kept within your house. Many people choose to keep their in the garage.

While wind turbines and solar panels require an outdoor setup, permanent magnet generators are not susceptible to adverse weather or other environmental conditions. Because of this, is costs very little to maintain this type of generator.

Should you decide to construct and install a generator of your own, it's completely capable of providing power for your entire home. A permanent magnetic generator operates by manipulating the movement of magnets using other magnets, creating perpetual motion within the motor. After this movement has started, it will not stop.

Due to this motion, your generator will create an increasing quantity of energy which can provide energy for your house. A generator can even produce more power than your whole household typically uses, also. This is because your permanent magnet generator never stops moving, and therefore never stops producing power.

So, if the question is 'Can a permanent magnet generator actually provide energy for my entire house?", the answer is yes. Just about anyone who can read a set of instructions is capable of assembling their own magnetic generator at home, also

http://www.articlesbase.com/diy-articles/permanent-magnet-generator-1761488.html

vacuum
3rd April 2011, 06:37 PM
He seems to have sold one before for that price and the buyer left good feedback.

Eyebone
3rd April 2011, 07:11 PM
I thought that only worked in zero Gs (No gravity).

Agrippa
3rd April 2011, 07:14 PM
I have a permanent magnet generator. It works great: all it needs to produce electricity is a force to turn the shaft -- as will this one, if it works at all.

uncletonoose
3rd April 2011, 07:16 PM
with the array of batteries, what can you run on it?

solid
3rd April 2011, 07:23 PM
I have a permanent magnet generator. It works great: all it needs to produce electricity is a force to turn the shaft -- as will this one, if it works at all.


So, it's basically an alternator? Albeit, a very high priced one?

This has me very curious, for sure.

zap
3rd April 2011, 07:42 PM
If it works I would buy one too.

Serpo
3rd April 2011, 08:33 PM
I have a permanent magnet generator. It works great: all it needs to produce electricity is a force to turn the shaft -- as will this one, if it works at all.


Can you explain more about it

Glass
3rd April 2011, 09:14 PM
How long does it take for the strength of the magnetic force of the magnet to decline below the point of being able to run the generator?

vacuum
3rd April 2011, 09:21 PM
How long does it take for the strength of the magnetic force of the magnet to decline below the point of being able to run the generator?

First of all, these types of generators wouldn't be running off of the initial energy used to magnetize the magnet, because that isn't very much at all. Second, neodymium magnets generally do not lose their magnetism when encountering opposing magnetic fields. You could clamp two together opposing each other in a vice and leave it for years, then come back and the magnets would be unaffected.

If working, the magnet would be more of a catalyst than a source itself.

Serpo
4th April 2011, 02:17 AM
Deserves further investigation and this is just a rough out line from a web site....................................

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The Magniwork Magnet Generator System, is a revolutionary, free energy, low cost option that you can build yourself in just a few hours and all for even less than 100 dollars. At least that is what the web site claims, so we purchased the generator plans ourselves to test this Magniwork out.



More and more people are using magnetic generators in their homes around the world. If you are unfamiliar with all the benefits of permanent magnetic generators, you should learn more about them. You will probably want to get one of your own!

http://permanent-magnet-generator.com/

Jazkal
4th April 2011, 08:53 AM
I wish these were for real. But my first guess would be that they are just 'free energy' scams.

Anyone actually have a working example, or even a video of a working example?

SWRichmond
4th April 2011, 09:07 AM
How long before this guy gets tired of living

long before you get $3500.00 worth of electricity from it.

Santa
4th April 2011, 09:46 AM
I have a permanent magnet generator. It works great: all it needs to produce electricity is a force to turn the shaft -- as will this one, if it works at all.


I'm all ears...

midnight rambler
4th April 2011, 10:56 AM
How long before this guy gets tired of living

long before you get $3500.00 worth of electricity from it.


Some folks pay far more than that putting up PV panels in order to be off the grid - up to $20k or more in some situations. If this device works, then it's well worth it (to some).

Ponce
4th April 2011, 11:09 AM
OK, I got an answer to my email to them this morning.......

We don't have a showroom, all units are prepaid, built and immediately sent to customers. We are extremely busy taking care
of customers.
Its up to you.
Best Regards

midnight rambler
4th April 2011, 11:17 AM
If this device works, then it's well worth it (to some).

That is one big matzo ball you have starting your sentence.



Actually we'll know in about 30-60 days if the concept is viable or not.

sirgonzo420
4th April 2011, 11:35 AM
Actually we'll know in about 30-60 days if the concept is viable or not.

You might be interested in a company I am considering starting. The concept involves a series of seven cascading dams, each dam generating power except for the last one. Its' job is to pump all the water back to the top of the first reservoir.


you and your dam ideas!

;D

Jazkal
4th April 2011, 11:36 AM
You might be interested in a company I am considering starting. The concept involves a series of seven cascading dams, each dam generating power except for the last one. Its' job is to pump all the water back to the top of the first reservoir.

And that one takes more power than all the others combined to operate?

midnight rambler
4th April 2011, 11:47 AM
Actually we'll know in about 30-60 days if the concept is viable or not.

You might be interested in a company I am considering starting. The concept involves a series of seven cascading dams, each dam generating power except for the last one. Its' job is to pump all the water back to the top of the first reservoir.


Yeah, laugh all you want. I'm open-minded about the concept. I've a good friend who's researched the matter quite a bit, and now he's gathering all the necessary components together to assemble a unit himself. We'll see.

"Nothing is impossible, except that the state of your mind makes it so." --Professor John Searl

For those who think without limits, here's a good place to start, the John Searl Effect generator -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUUvhuQtba4

midnight rambler
4th April 2011, 12:09 PM
The reason we don't have 'free energy' is because JP Morgan (like the other greedy fucks of his ilk) saw no future in "merely selling antennas".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI0-c9O0jCI

Serpo
5th April 2011, 12:24 AM
50$ For the plans to build for under 100$ so they say at the link............


http://www.magniwork.com/



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGRsQZx6zWA&feature=player_embedded#at=60

vacuum
5th April 2011, 01:24 AM
50$ For the plans to build for under 100$ so they say at the link............

http://www.magniwork.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGRsQZx6zWA&feature=player_embedded#at=60

While I do think free energy is out there, I don't think I'd buy plans for it. I know that isn't very supportive of the FE community, but it's pragmatic.

Especially when its almost always available for free.....

Search these sites for many free things:

www.scribd.com
www.filestube.com
www.torrentz.com

Here is the maginwork booklet off of scribd:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/48365586/Magniwork

Twisted Titan
5th April 2011, 05:14 AM
If you have no showplace nor a money back guarantee Im not interestd

Agrippa
5th April 2011, 05:30 AM
A real permanent magnet generator is merely a generator that uses permanent magnets instead of electromagnets controlled by a regulator. There is less to go wrong with it, so it might be a good choice for survival situations. Here's an example of a real one:

http://www.utterpower.com/products/pmg/

Jazkal
5th April 2011, 09:10 AM
A real permanent magnet generator is merely a generator that uses permanent magnets instead of electromagnets controlled by a regulator. There is less to go wrong with it, so it might be a good choice for survival situations. Here's an example of a real one:

http://www.utterpower.com/products/pmg/

Maybe I'm reading that page wrong, but that looks like it is used as an alternator (power generation), which is powered by a motor (which attaches to the belt pulley). I don't see that they are claiming this is a stand alone model that generates 3 kw of power, all by itself.

Ponce
5th April 2011, 10:49 AM
Midnight Rambler? do you happen to know the name of the movie from where that short came from?

Back in 1961 in Alaska while on radio duty at 2 am I came up with MY idea for my "Magno Motor".......for fifty year I have been looking for the one missing item, that I was told, does not exist........at least in the now.

But for jet planes and the alike it could power everything else.....under the ocean, in space, in the dessert, in the cold N and S poles, at home, in your car and other places.....it gives no smog or byproduct and all that you could hear is a something rotating, you can even encased it in concrete and it still would work as long as the shaft was sticking out to connected to whatever......it could power a flash light, street lights or whatever .........and........you never have to turn them off...........only thing that could go wrong is the power in the magnets or the bearigs holding the two ends in place.

Agrippa
5th April 2011, 05:18 PM
Maybe I'm reading that page wrong, but that looks like it is used as an alternator (power generation), which is powered by a motor (which attaches to the belt pulley). I don't see that they are claiming this is a stand alone model that generates 3 kw of power, all by itself.


You have it right. Needing some sort of engine to turn the shaft is a feature of real permanent magnet generators. A generator which omits that little detail doesn't qualify as real....

Ponce
5th April 2011, 05:23 PM
If it is anything like mine it is then only the horse where you have to supply the wagon........if that was true it would then be great.

kiffertom
5th April 2011, 08:26 PM
theres no such thing as perpetual motion!!

Ponce
5th April 2011, 09:41 PM
Ok kiff.........I sure as hell hope that Mother Earth don't know that.......otherwise will end up floating in space like balloons.

vacuum
5th April 2011, 11:07 PM
theres no such thing as perpetual motion!!

Actually, according to physics, there is no such thing as being perfectly still (reach 0 Kelvins), because of zero point energy. Newton's first law actually says perpetual motion is expected.